Hi Don,
We are dealing with this on the Nashville also.  Alot of it depends on how you
have your trains and staging setup.  At this time, I'm doing some experiments
to get more control of car movements through the main yards.  Once we are back
in operation, I'll be able to post how it works for us.  
  
Best,
Andy Keeney
Dewitt, MI
 
You can see The Nashville Road "under construction" album at:
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/3019
or: http://tinyurl.com/24vpbt
 
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________________________________
From: Don Lyon <dplyon@...>
To: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 12:19:43 PM
Subject: [ProTrak] Yard congestion

 
I am trying to alleviate my yard congestion. What appears to be
happening is that as cars come into the yard during a session they are
classified and placed on the classification tracks. The problem is that
these cars are not being placed on outgoing trains but set in the yard
until the next update. After the next update I have full trains for the
first run then again as trains return 1 or 2 cars are placed on
outbound trains while the yard again fills up.

In looking at the cars that are hung up through exceptions query car
status the car schedule shows yard yard customer. I happened to notice
that a flier over both waybill and time remaining says to click to
complete loading. I am not sure if this applies at the yard but I tried
it on several cars then did a Yardmaster route cars at yard. a few cars
were routed but most were not.

So my question is am I missing a setting to make cars in a yard
available immediately or is there a problem in my data base or how can
I make all cars coming into a yard immediately available.

Thanks
Don Lyon



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I am trying to alleviate my yard congestion. What appears to be
happening is that as  cars come into the yard during a session they are
classified and placed on the classification tracks. The problem is that
these cars are not being placed on outgoing trains but set in the yard
until the next update. After the next update I have full trains for the
first run then again  as trains return 1 or 2 cars are placed on
outbound trains while the yard again fills up.

In looking at the cars that are hung up through exceptions query car
status the car schedule shows yard yard customer. I happened to notice
that a flier  over both  waybill and time remaining says to click to
complete loading. I am not sure if this applies at the yard but I tried
it on several cars then did a Yardmaster route cars at yard. a few cars
were routed but most were  not.

So my question is am I missing a setting to make cars in a yard
available immediately or is there a problem in my data base or how can
I  make all cars coming into a yard immediately available.

Thanks
Don Lyon

John:



Thanks for your 'eagle eye'.  You are correct in your observations.  I had
caught and corrected Figure 5-24 but had missed the error in Figure 5-25 -
it has now been corrected.  If you find any other situations where your
actions don't produce the results in the ProTrak Basics Manual (PTBM),
please let me know.  A number of us have looked at those two figures yet
none of us caught the errors.  Thanks for brining them to my attention.



FYI, I hope to get Version 1.1 out early in the new year.  In addition to
the three new chapters, there are a number of corrections and additions to
the text in the first 10 chapters.  The details of the corrections will be
shown in a separate document - V1.1 release notes.



Doug



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From: John Quinn [mailto:jjqgenesis@...]
Sent: December 3, 2009 3:29 PM
To: Doug Seymour
Subject: RE: [ProTrak] Starting to use ProTak Manual




Doug,

Thank you for getting back so fast.

Look forward to hearing from you about my observations

.

I am finding the Manual very easy to use, so far.

The Illustrations (figures) give a great visual reference to check against
for accuracy on my part.
The Appendices I am sure will help greatly when I continue on with the
Manual.



From what I have seen so far, I believe as I proceed with the Chapters, I
will have a knowledge of and understanding of the relationships between
reports.



I appreciate the work you and others have done. As I indicated in my
posting, I have had ProTrak for many years and was never successful in
working though a single operating session. I did have "tons" of the Forum
messages saved but found it difficult to pinpoint anything specific for
help.



I have followed the forum discussions since 2001 and admire Jim for his
response to user requests for both help and additions to the program. I
can't think of another program that offers a similar response.



My wife suffered an acute stroke last March and as her "care taker", I am
home most of the day. This allows me time to again start work on my N scale
layout in the garage and therefore lead to my renewed interest in ProTrak.



Regards,



John Quinn





--- On Thu, 12/3/09, Doug Seymour <ve6dhs@...> wrote:


From: Doug Seymour <ve6dhs@...>
Subject: RE: [ProTrak] Starting to use ProTak Manual
To: "'John Q'" <jjqgenesis@...>
Cc: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 12:05 PM

John:



I'm the author of this manual and I'm pleased to see you are using it.  One
of the "Murphy's Laws" type of things is that no matter how often you check
to make sure you don't have any errors in a manual, someone will surely find
one as soon as it's published.  Thanks for bringing these to our attention
and I'll look at them and get back to you as soon as I can.



If I may, I'd like your feedback on how you found the manual.  Was it easy
to follow?  Did you find anything that was confusing?  Did you see anything
that you didn't like?  A Ny feedback at all would be wonderful.



FYI, I'm currently working on release 1.1.  It will continue on with the
expansion of Train 202 and the addition of two new through trains.  It will
also start to introduce passenger operations and some of the intricacies and
peculiarities of setting up passenger ops.



Doug



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From: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com [mailto: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
Of John Q
Sent: December 3, 2009 9:31 AM
To: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ProTrak] Starting to use ProTak Manual





Folks,
I have just started to use the ProTrak Manual and am following the
directions for setting up the ProTRAK Demonstrator Railroad.

I have come across some differences between my results and those shown in
the Manual.
Before proceeding further I have listed the differences and seek
clarification.

I purchased my copy of ProTrak sometime in 2000 I believe and have updated
whenever new updates became available.
Currently that is build 274

Page 5-20 - Changing Trains 3 of 3, Figure 5-24 - Terminal Station shown as
ActonVale. Shouldn't that be Berwick? It is what my report shows.
Page 5-21 - Listing of Train Jobs, Figure 5-25 - Line 3, Symbol Number 202
shows Terminal as ACT-yd. Shouldn't that be BER02y? It is what my report
shows.

I have gone back and repeated the steps outlined in the Manual and still get
the same results.

Help will be appreciated.

Thank you
John Quinn



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John:



I'm the author of this manual and I'm pleased to see you are using it.  One
of the "Murphy's Laws" type of things is that no matter how often you check
to make sure you don't have any errors in a manual, someone will surely find
one as soon as it's published.  Thanks for bringing these to our attention
and I'll look at them and get back to you as soon as I can.



If I may, I'd like your feedback on how you found the manual.  Was it easy
to follow?  Did you find anything that was confusing?  Did you see anything
that you didn't like?  A Ny feedback at all would be wonderful.



FYI, I'm currently working on release 1.1.  It will continue on with the
expansion of Train 202 and the addition of two new through trains.  It will
also start to introduce passenger operations and some of the intricacies and
peculiarities of setting up passenger ops.



Doug



   _____

From: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ProTrak@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
John Q
Sent: December 3, 2009 9:31 AM
To: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ProTrak] Starting to use ProTak Manual





Folks,
I have just started to use the ProTrak Manual and am following the
directions for setting up the ProTRAK Demonstrator Railroad.

I have come across some differences between my results and those shown in
the Manual.
Before proceeding further I have listed the differences and seek
clarification.

I purchased my copy of ProTrak sometime in 2000 I believe and have updated
whenever new updates became available.
Currently that is build 274

Page 5-20 - Changing Trains 3 of 3, Figure 5-24 - Terminal Station shown as
ActonVale. Shouldn't that be Berwick? It is what my report shows.
Page 5-21 - Listing of Train Jobs, Figure 5-25 - Line 3, Symbol Number 202
shows Terminal as ACT-yd. Shouldn't that be BER02y? It is what my report
shows.

I have gone back and repeated the steps outlined in the Manual and still get
the same results.

Help will be appreciated.

Thank you
John Quinn



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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Folks,
I have just started to use the ProTrak Manual and am following the directions
for setting up the ProTRAK Demonstrator Railroad.

I have come across some differences between my results and those shown in the
Manual.
Before proceeding further I have listed the differences and seek clarification.

I purchased my copy of ProTrak sometime in 2000 I believe and have updated
whenever new updates became available.
Currently that is build 274

Page 5-20 - Changing Trains 3 of 3, Figure 5-24 - Terminal Station shown as
ActonVale. Shouldn't that be Berwick? It is what my report shows.
Page 5-21 - Listing of Train Jobs, Figure 5-25 - Line 3, Symbol Number 202 shows
Terminal as ACT-yd. Shouldn't that be BER02y? It is what my report shows.

I have gone back and repeated the steps outlined in the Manual and still get the
same results.

Help will be appreciated.

Thank you
John Quinn

Okay, thanks Jim!
  
Best, Andy 
 
You can see The Nashville Road "under construction" album at:
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/3019
or: http://tinyurl.com/24vpbt
 
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________________________________
From: Jim Moir <jim@...>
To: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 8:04:32 AM
Subject: RE: [ProTrak] Nov 26th Update

 
>Can you give us an idea of the changes/additions in this
>latest update?

It was for Ed, so he could get a modern CD.

A general Update won't be posted for a few weeks. Probably nothing that
affects you.
- a correction for forming lineups under "Continuous Operations";
- various corrections related to Grapevine DCC and handling lashups.

Jim

Jim Moir
ProTrak




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>Can you give us an idea of the changes/additions in this
>latest update?

It was for Ed, so he could get a modern CD.

A general Update won't be posted for a few weeks.  Probably nothing that
affects you.
   - a correction for forming lineups under "Continuous Operations";
   - various corrections related to Grapevine DCC and handling lashups.


	 Jim

Jim Moir
ProTrak

Hi Jim,
Can you give us an idea of the changes/additions in this latest update?

Thanks and best, Andy

Ed,

>I have not received the CD and was wondering if the disc
>got lost or what has happened?

Your CD was mailed today from Waterloo.   "Waterloo" saves one day for the
horse-buggy trip in from Baden.

You are getting the November 26th update.

	 Jim

Aloha

Wishing All a Happy Thanksgiving Holiday.

Mahalo
Eric

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Hi All,
I'm passing this along to you just in case you are interested.  It was posted on
Railroad Line Forums, one of the many groups that I belong to.
 
"On Monday, Nov 30, at 8:00 PM (eastern), the pilot episode of "Scotty Mason
Live" will be broadcast as a free online feed. The show will also be available
to download for a fee, and purchase for a fee on DVD after Monday night. To view
the live version, go to Scott's website ( scottymason.com), click on the link,
and follow the instructions.

According to Scott, he will be doing "a one-hour clinic on techniques for
finishing scenery. This will include rock coloring, ground applications, trees,
track ballasting, and water considerations."

This will be a professional studio-type broadcast, not a "web-cam 'cast." But,
he also says, "Remember, this will be a live broadcast, and anything can
happen!"

Since quite a few model railroaders have Scott's DVD's on weathering, building,
figure painting, etc. and/or listen to the podcasts every month, I thought some
of you might also be interested in knowing about this new online venture. As far
as I know, nothing like this has been done before in the model railroad hobby."
 
Best,
Andy Keeney
Dewitt, MI
 
You can see The Nashville Road "under construction" album at:
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/3019
or: http://tinyurl.com/24vpbt
 
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Howdy,



So far, I haven't had any problems with it.  ProTrak is working like a
charm.



Best regards,

Mike



From: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ProTrak@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
rickrail2000
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:35 PM
To: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ProTrak] Any News On ProTrak and WIndows 7?





Just been wondering about compatability. Thanks





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Just been wondering about compatability.  Thanks

Jim

I have not received the CD and was wondering if the disc got lost or
what has happened?

Thanks

Ed Petry
4146 Bellaire Ave.
White Bear Lake, MN 55110

-----Original Message-----
From: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ProTrak@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jim Moir
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 1:04 PM
To: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ProTrak] I have had ProTrak early on and gave up getting
it operational.


Ed Petry,

>Yes I am who you think....
>I'm still at the same address. The RR keeps me here...

One "274" CD wil be on its way!

Best,

Jim




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Jim:



An interesting site.  In Chapter 12 of the PTBM I added an offline supplier
for anhydrous ammonia.  Just out of curiosity I looked at the ammonia
listing and low and behold, there's the supplier I used in the PTBM.  I'm
struggling with Chapter 12 - I've rewritten parts of the chapter 3 or 4
times and still can't get it right.  Maybe I've finally got it this time.



This has been a crazy year weather-wise.  So far we've had 2 weeks of winter
in September then fall for the last part of Sep and first part of Nov.  New
week we're back into spring with temps of +12 on Monday and +13 on Tuesday.
Go figure.



Shirley had been planning on retiring at the end of June next year but
they've come out with a buyout package where she works and it means that she
can go at the end of March and have effectively the same amount of income as
she would have if she retired at the end of June.  Kind of nice to get that
rather than being too early or too late for these sorts of thisng as is so
often the case.







Doug



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From: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ProTrak@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
jimmoirprotrak
Sent: November 15, 2009 6:14 AM
To: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ProTrak] Chemcical profiles/waybill ideas





What is produced where? and how much? Try this link:
http://www.the- <http://www.the-innovation-group.com/chemprofile.htm>
innovation-group.com/chemprofile.htm
where you will find the following comment:
"Chemical Profiles
Chemical profiles are produced by TIG and published weekly in the Chemical
Market Reporter, a publication of the Schnell Publishing Company, a member
of the Reed Elsevier group. The most recent profiles are immediately
available by clicking their links in the following list. And, for the latest
chemical industry news, we suggest that you visit CMR OnLine."

If you poke around you can trace the present-day production connections and
what might be transported where. There are often links to plant closure
notices which give historical perspective.

At the very least there are lots of waybill ideas there.

Jim

Jim Moir



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What is produced where? and how much? Try this link:
http://www.the-innovation-group.com/chemprofile.htm
where you will find the following comment:
"Chemical Profiles
Chemical profiles are produced by TIG and published weekly in the Chemical
Market Reporter, a publication of the Schnell Publishing Company, a member of
the Reed Elsevier group. The most recent profiles are immediately available by
clicking their links in the following list. And, for the  latest chemical
industry news, we suggest that you visit CMR OnLine."

If you poke around you can trace the present-day production connections and what
might be transported where.  There are often links to plant closure notices
which give historical perspective.

At the very least there are lots of waybill ideas there.

      Jim

Jim Moir

Hi Andy,

Advances on your railroad sound great and I can't wait to operate there again. 
I've been very busy at the club preparing for our upcoming show in addition to
construction on the new addition.  We are all weathered in and working on the
inside plumbing right now.  With the exterior work done we can take our time on
the inside.  All the heating runs and air returns are in place, building
electrical is about complete and the plumbing is about 80%.  These past few
months have been a blur.

Ron

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: hunter48820
   To: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:21 PM
   Subject: [ProTrak] Nashville Road Update



   Hi All,
   Thought I'ld give you a quick update on the Nashville. Been busy working to
get the mainline completed. I'm just laying in the last couple of feet of track
on the city viaduct that is located on the second deck on the backside of the
Madison Switching peninsula and where the track goes into the furnace room and
then comes out on the upper deck. We will have an approximate 1000' mainline in
operations this year.

   We have the fastclock system ready to go but not yet installed and I hope to
have the phone system up and running for the ProTrak Weekend.

   There is quite a bit more customer activity on the layout mainly effecting
Ribo Yard and Cedar Hill Yard operations.

   Cedar Hill has gone from a station with a passing track and a gravel pit
operation, to a fairly busy yard with three trains originating there and a lot
of new customers.

   If you remember Lawson Springs (the end of the double track mainline coming
out of staging), it was a bit of a bottle neck in regards to dispatcher control
and was a real headache for the DS. The double track now runs all the way to
Guthrie Junction were the L&N Interchange is located.

   We are working on the program data to update the latest changes and will
hopefully be operating shortly after the first of the year. I have several
different groups that want to come for a visit and attend an operating session,
two from out of state!! Gotta make sure that I'm ready this time!! ;-)

   Hope you're all considering attending the upcoming PT Weekend the end of
April.

   Best,
   Andy Keeney
   Dewitt, MI

   You can see The Nashville Road "under construction" album at:
   http://tinyurl.com/24vpbt

   Hosting the Seventh Annual ProTrak Weekend: April 29th - May 2nd, 2010





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Hi All,
Thought I'ld give you a quick update on the Nashville.  Been busy  working to
get the mainline completed.  I'm just laying in the last couple of feet of track
on the city viaduct that is located on the second deck on the backside of the
Madison Switching peninsula and where the track goes into the furnace room and
then comes out on the upper deck. We will have an approximate 1000' mainline in
operations this year.

We have the fastclock system ready to go but not yet installed and I hope to
have the phone system up and running for the ProTrak Weekend.

There is quite a bit more customer activity on the layout mainly effecting Ribo
Yard and Cedar Hill Yard operations.

Cedar Hill has gone from a station with a passing track and a gravel pit
operation, to a fairly busy yard with three trains originating there and a lot
of new customers.

If you remember Lawson Springs (the end of the double track mainline coming out
of staging), it was a bit of a bottle neck in regards to dispatcher control and
was a real headache for the DS.  The double track now runs all the way to
Guthrie Junction were the L&N Interchange is located.

We are working on the program data to update the latest changes and will
hopefully be operating shortly after the first of the year.  I have several
different groups that want to come for a visit and attend an operating session,
two from out of state!!  Gotta make sure that I'm ready this time!! ;-)

Hope you're all considering attending the upcoming PT Weekend the end of April.

Best,
Andy Keeney
Dewitt, MI

You can see The Nashville Road "under construction" album at:
http://tinyurl.com/24vpbt

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Looks like somebody is putting that handlaid track clinic to good use!









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Thanks Jim will do.

Joe Batson

--- In ProTrak@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Moir" <jim@...> wrote:
>
> >...in simple terms, why can't a train be listed with zero cars?
>
> Because it has no meaning.
>
>
> ~~~
> The program -presently- has no general "light engine move" function.  I can
> see the utility of adding such a function.  This would be different from the
> "light helper return" function.
>
> ~~~
> In the mean time you can duplicate a "light engine move" by doing what I
> mentioned earlier;
>   a) use the "call extra" option, _or_
>   b) set up a train that originates at a unique location.
>
> You wanted to schedule, permanently, a train to do light power moves.  To do
> this:
>    a)  identify the zone where light engine moves would commonly originate;
>    b) set up a "y" track at that zone;
>    c) have _no_ other trains work at that location. (Just light power moves
> *originate*.)
> Then
>    d) set up a train that originates at that location.  The "number of cars"
> setting for a train does not matter.
>
> ***Note:
>   - If there are no cars at that location, no cars will be assigned to the
> train.
>   - If only light moves originate at that location, no cars can be routed to
> that location (there is no train inbound to the location).  There will never
> be cars at that location.
>
>
>            Jim
>
>
> Jim Moir
> ProTrak
>

Thanks John

That is good information.

Joe Batson

--- In ProTrak@yahoogroups.com, John Mitchell <mitchel2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I was able to setup an RDC train, but PT required that it have at least one
car.
>  
> However, I was able to reduce the train length to 25 feet, so that should stop
any cars being added inadvertently to the consist.
> John
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thanks Jim

That seems to have fixed the problem. The error in car data is not there
anymore. Boy is that a relief!!! I did see the file processor run the first time
I entered operations, so I immediately exited the operations session and
restarted PT, went directly to operations, and this time the fp did not run,
printed several sw lists, and they looked good. Don't want to see that again. I
know it is halloween, but I don't like scary things like that.

Let me get my wits about me again, and see if I can get back to that routing
problem Howard and I seemed to have found.

Again thanks
Joe Batson



--- In ProTrak@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Moir" <jim@...> wrote:
>
> >Before each car on the switch list, was this notification:
> >"ERROR IN CAR DATA"
>
> The error is related to a missing font size (at least here it is).   The
> program uses "12" as the default size and once that is put (back) in the
> data, the error goes away.
>
> Exit ProTrak, then re-enter ProTrak.  Go to directly "Operations".
>
>
> ~~~
> NB:
>
> (Without having the FP run.  If you see the FP run, using the program as
> above -directly to Operations ***without changing any data***- please let me
> know.)
>
>
>  Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Moir
> ProTrak
>

>...in simple terms, why can't a train be listed with zero cars?

Because it has no meaning.


~~~
The program -presently- has no general "light engine move" function.  I can
see the utility of adding such a function.  This would be different from the
"light helper return" function.

~~~
In the mean time you can duplicate a "light engine move" by doing what I
mentioned earlier;
   a) use the "call extra" option, _or_
   b) set up a train that originates at a unique location.

You wanted to schedule, permanently, a train to do light power moves.  To do
this:
    a)  identify the zone where light engine moves would commonly originate;
    b) set up a "y" track at that zone;
    c) have _no_ other trains work at that location. (Just light power moves
*originate*.)
Then
    d) set up a train that originates at that location.  The "number of cars"
setting for a train does not matter.

***Note:
   - If there are no cars at that location, no cars will be assigned to the
train.
   - If only light moves originate at that location, no cars can be routed to
that location (there is no train inbound to the location).  There will never
be cars at that location.


            Jim


Jim Moir
ProTrak

Hi,
I was able to setup an RDC train, but PT required that it have at least one car.
 
However, I was able to reduce the train length to 25 feet, so that should stop
any cars being added inadvertently to the consist.
John

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>Before each car on the switch list, was this notification:
>"ERROR IN CAR DATA"

The error is related to a missing font size (at least here it is).   The
program uses "12" as the default size and once that is put (back) in the
data, the error goes away.

Exit ProTrak, then re-enter ProTrak.  Go to directly "Operations".


~~~
NB:

(Without having the FP run.  If you see the FP run, using the program as
above -directly to Operations ***without changing any data***- please let me
know.)


	 Jim





Jim Moir
ProTrak

>Before each car on the switch list, was this notification:
>"ERROR IN CAR DATA"
>I started back dating the saved data base and had to go
>all the way back to the point where I had started to find
>where it did not report the error.
>Is there anyway to repair the data?


First, try re-setting the switchlist prnting options at
"Adminstration/Switchlist format".   That is the item "common" to all car
data.

By the way, that data is stored in the files "SwitPrts.RDC" and
"EnSwPrts.RDC".

~~~
I will have a look at your data to find the exact issue.


	 Jim


Jim Moir
ProTrak

Hi Joe,
Thanks for your kind thoughts regarding Scott.  It's greatly appreciated. 

Will be interested seeing how your problem works out.  Good luck and please let
us all know how it goes.
  
Best,
Andy Keeney
Dewitt, MI
 
You can see The Nashville Road "under construction" album at:
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/3019
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________________________________
From: joebmcse <joeb@...>
To: ProTrak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 1:44:52 AM
Subject: [ProTrak] Re: Light Train Movement

 
Hey Andy

I haven't tried that, though it looks like it would work. But like I said, to
run a caboose hop, or even a 4 car train, PT won't let you do it. You shouldn't
have to trick PT into doing a simple caboose hop. Besides, if we needed to just
transfer motive power from one Yd to another, we would have to set up a Y yard
for each Yd. Just don't seem right to have to do that, besides if you read my
last post, I have bigger fish to kill right now, and even after we got it
working, it would not keep PT from routing cars to the NC-Yd.

Thanks anyway Andy
Joe Batson

I pray that your son makes the full round trip without a scratch!!!

--- In ProTrak@yahoogroups .com, Andrew Keeney <hunter48820@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Joe,
> Greetings from Atlanta, GA!!
>
> I might be missing something here but have you tried originating the light
caboose hop at FTW but using a small "y" designation that is only used for that
train and no other cars being able to be routed to it?  It is still part of FTW
yard.  This is what I use for my coal train operations thru Ribo to keep them
separated from other freightcar traffic and it has worked well.  Your train
would still terminate at FTW-Yd.
>
> Have the train run FTW02y  to  NCT-Yd  to  FTW-Yd.  Hopefully that will take
care of cars being added to the train at the origin station.   
>  
> Best,
> Andy Keeney
> Dewitt, MI
>  
> You can see The Nashville Road "under construction" album at:
> http://www.trainboa rd.com/railimage s/showgallery. php/cat/500/ ppuser/3019
> or: http://tinyurl. com/24vpbt
>  
> Hosting the Seventh Annual ProTrak Weekend: April 29th - May 2nd, 2010
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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Hey Andy

I haven't tried that, though it looks like it would work. But like I said, to
run a caboose hop, or even a 4 car train, PT won't let you do it. You shouldn't
have to trick PT into doing a simple caboose hop. Besides, if we needed to just
transfer motive power from one Yd to another, we would have to set up a Y yard
for each Yd. Just don't seem right to have to do that, besides if you read my
last post, I have bigger fish to kill right now, and even after we got it
working, it would not keep PT from routing cars to the NC-Yd.

Thanks anyway Andy
Joe Batson

I pray that your son makes the full round trip without a scratch!!!



--- In ProTrak@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Keeney <hunter48820@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Joe,
> Greetings from Atlanta, GA!!
>
> I might be missing something here but have you tried originating the light
caboose hop at FTW but using a small "y" designation that is only used for that
train and no other cars being able to be routed to it?  It is still part of FTW
yard.  This is what I use for my coal train operations thru Ribo to keep them
separated from other freightcar traffic and it has worked well.  Your train
would still terminate at FTW-Yd.
>
> Have the train run FTW02y  to  NCT-Yd  to  FTW-Yd.  Hopefully that will take
care of cars being added to the train at the origin station.   
>  
> Best,
> Andy Keeney
> Dewitt, MI
>  
> You can see The Nashville Road "under construction" album at:
> http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/3019
> or: http://tinyurl.com/24vpbt
>  
> Hosting the Seventh Annual ProTrak Weekend: April 29th - May 2nd, 2010
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Joe,
Greetings from Atlanta, GA!!

I might be missing something here but have you tried originating the light
caboose hop at FTW but using a small "y" designation that is only used for that
train and no other cars being able to be routed to it?  It is still part of FTW
yard.  This is what I use for my coal train operations thru Ribo to keep them
separated from other freightcar traffic and it has worked well.  Your train
would still terminate at FTW-Yd.

Have the train run FTW02y  to  NCT-Yd  to  FTW-Yd.  Hopefully that will take
care of cars being added to the train at the origin station.   
 
Best,
Andy Keeney
Dewitt, MI
 
You can see The Nashville Road "under construction" album at:
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/3019
or: http://tinyurl.com/24vpbt
 
Hosting the Seventh Annual ProTrak Weekend: April 29th - May 2nd, 2010

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