Okay Dan, is this correct? At the Second Coming of Christ, the dead Christians were raised out of Hades, then the living and dead Christians were snatched away...
Dan, Sorry, but I didn't read all of your previous posts. If you could give me a brief response here: 1) In your view is the "redemption of the body" and...
Dan, Calling the resurrection from "death in sin" to "life in Christ" (a resurrection which all believers experience while they are alive on this Earth) a mere...
Hi :-)....I have to ask....WHAT is "IBD"? I don't have a clue. Thanks. Deb ... this ... with ... whether or ... eternal ... and ... must ... unbiblical. ... ...
So, Tim LaHaye is correct in his "Left Behind" theology, he just missed the time of occurrence by a couple of thousand years and as it turns out WE are the...
[Dave] ... [Dan] Wow. How odd you saying that. Actually, you are quite incorrect. Whenever we see the idea of a "resurrection" in the OT - including even...
Dave, I'm rather surprised at this line of questioning, because it really is no different than what you yourself believe, in that the "snatching" is the same...
[Larry] Any form of PHYSICAL Rapture of the saints violates the consistent principles of hermeneutics. I respect Ed Stevens and J.S. Russell, but in this...
[Mike] ... [Dan] I know. I do wish you'd have at least read the part where I responded to your defense of your article. [Mike] ... [Dan] They are the same,...
[Dan] The resurrection was only possible BECAUSE of the ... the resurrection. [Larry] I absolutely agree with what you stated about the "salvific work of ...
[Dan] And be careful, because being raised up and sitting in heavenly places was already a reality for NT saints, not just a Parousial promise. So it cannot be...
[Dan] ... You're refuting a straw man. No one says that before a believer believes, he has "eternal death." Before a believer believes, he has death. ...
[Dan] ... That's where the futurists err. They see the spiritual resurrection having already taken place in Eph. 2:6 and then reason that the future bodily ...
[Dan] ... Well then, if they weren't yet completely in the spiritual realm, and if they didn't yet have completed atonement, THEN it necessarily follows that ...
Hi Larry, I agree with what you say about "the body." It had to do with one's "stance before God." However, later in your message you seem to identify "the...
[Larry] In the Jewish though world a person was seen as standing before God as a COMPLETE being (although we know the nature of humans is triune-- spirit,...
1Cor.3:5-17 5 What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, even as the Lord gave opportunity to each one. 6 I planted,...
[FROM ED STEVENS] Just got off the phone with Walt Hibbard. He is now home recovering from a quadruple bypass surgery and installation of a new pacemaker. He...
[FROM ED STEVENS] Debra, you have hit the nail on the head. In Jesus¹ parables about the Master going away and leaving his servants in charge, and then...
Preterism is correct, we are in the new heavens and new earth, and mankind will exist (biologically) forever. If that is true, then certain things follow. 1)...
Thanks Ed for your response. To be honest, I am very confused about this. I can 'see' how this could be a physical event, but also how it could be a...
I don't know how preterist NT Wright is but he talked about his recent book and almost seemed to go into a discussion of preterism, but Colbert talked over...
Debra, Exactly what is a "spiritual event"? Can a "spiritual event" occur without people being involved? Is there any kind of people other than physical...
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... without people being involved? Is there any kind of people other than physical people? ... DEB: Ummmm, to me a 'spiritual event' would be something that...
[Larry Siegle] Ed, you know that I have "much love for you" as a brother in the Lord, but... [Ed Stevens] The bodies of the living were changed from mortal to...
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