Don't forget the new CLT-FCO service starting in May using an A330-200. Another
widebody on the evening push, GREAT!
--- In PlaneSpottingCLT@yahoogroups.com, "vc10er" <vc10er@...> wrote:
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>
>
> According to the ACI world traffic report Charlotte was the 9th busiest
airport in the world for traffic movements in 2008! This figure up 2.6% on the
previous year to 536,253 movements. All the airports with more movements are in
the USA with the exception of Paris (CDG) which was 7th with 559,816 movements.
>
> I personally saw 99.8% of CLT movements last year, all of which were regional
jets, yippie ki hey.
>
> Joking aside, we are scheduled to get daily A330-200 service in April when US
resume Paris flights.
>
> See y'all on Facebook.
>
> Lyndon
>
On Dec 11, 2009, at 19:11, "vc10er" <vc10er@...> wrote:
Slow death huh?
At least I can watch the wife's farm grow on FB.
Aviation Bar at the overlook. I will open soon, do I have any support?
--- In PlaneSpottingCLT@yahoogroups.com, Chaz Hinkle <chazzer@...> wrote:
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>
> Facebook is the way to go man! I have heard that since FB has caught on all of the Yahoo groups seem to now be dying a very slow death...
>
> On Dec 11, 2009, at 6:54 PM, vc10er wrote:
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> > PlanespottingCLT
>
Slow death huh?
At least I can watch the wife's farm grow on FB.
Aviation Bar at the overlook. I will open soon, do I have any support?
--- In PlaneSpottingCLT@yahoogroups.com, Chaz Hinkle <chazzer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Facebook is the way to go man! I have heard that since FB has caught on all
of the Yahoo groups seem to now be dying a very slow death...
>
> On Dec 11, 2009, at 6:54 PM, vc10er wrote:
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> > PlanespottingCLT
>
According to the ACI world traffic report Charlotte was the 9th busiest airport
in the world for traffic movements in 2008! This figure up 2.6% on the previous
year to 536,253 movements. All the airports with more movements are in the USA
with the exception of Paris (CDG) which was 7th with 559,816 movements.
I personally saw 99.8% of CLT movements last year, all of which were regional
jets, yippie ki hey.
Joking aside, we are scheduled to get daily A330-200 service in April when US
resume Paris flights.
See y'all on Facebook.
Lyndon
A new aircraft type flies today! The first competitor to the ageing C130, The
Airbus A400 took off for the first time from Seville, Spain.
The 787 and the 747-800 are supposed to fly on the 17th of this month, I hope
so.
Are any of you using PlanespottingCLT on Facebook yet? I think I'm too old, my
kids seeem to be helping me though, oh sh..bcoqub, am I in trouble!
yep- use it all the time, but sometimes the CLT feed is down.
--- In PlaneSpottingCLT@yahoogroups.com, Matt Johnson <ncmattj@...> wrote:
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> For use at home:
>
> http://www.liveatc.net
>
> - Matt Johnson
> Sent from my iPhone.
>
> On Nov 22, 2009, at 8:02 PM, "p_u_r_e_energy"
> <p_u_r_e_energy@...> wrote:
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> > Thanks Chaz, Matt, and Reg for your help- great info! Unfortunately-
> > no I-phone- but thanks for the idea, Matt. I am looking for a solid
> > home/mobile unit, and from what you all have said, this should do
> > the trick! Since we are thinking it has a built-in speaker, I'm
> > going to go ahead and grab this for $80, and if I discover I need a
> > speaker, or longer-range antenna for my purposes down the road, I
> > will invest at that time.
> >
> > I say we start the push now for piped-in ATC at the new overlook!
> > Although, with a scanner purchase, I guess that would eliminate my
> > need. At least I can take it on the road with me.
> >
> > Thanks as always guys for the suggestions, and happy spotting!
> > Drew
> >
> >
>
On Nov 22, 2009, at 8:02 PM, "p_u_r_e_energy" <p_u_r_e_energy@...> wrote:
Thanks Chaz, Matt, and Reg for your help- great info! Unfortunately- no I-phone- but thanks for the idea, Matt. I am looking for a solid home/mobile unit, and from what you all have said, this should do the trick! Since we are thinking it has a built-in speaker, I'm going to go ahead and grab this for $80, and if I discover I need a speaker, or longer-range antenna for my purposes down the road, I will invest at that time.
I say we start the push now for piped-in ATC at the new overlook! Although, with a scanner purchase, I guess that would eliminate my need. At least I can take it on the road with me.
Thanks as always guys for the suggestions, and happy spotting!
Drew
Thanks Chaz, Matt, and Reg for your help- great info! Unfortunately- no
I-phone- but thanks for the idea, Matt. I am looking for a solid home/mobile
unit, and from what you all have said, this should do the trick! Since we are
thinking it has a built-in speaker, I'm going to go ahead and grab this for $80,
and if I discover I need a speaker, or longer-range antenna for my purposes down
the road, I will invest at that time.
I say we start the push now for piped-in ATC at the new overlook! Although,
with a scanner purchase, I guess that would eliminate my need. At least I can
take it on the road with me.
Thanks as always guys for the suggestions, and happy spotting!
Drew
Drew, I live just SE of LKR (about 20 miles or so) and use one of those BC95XLT
scanners and pick up quite a bit of chatter from inbound traffic and very
occasionally pick up some ground chatter as well from CLT.
That BC350 does have an internal speaker to the best of my knowledge and would
make a nice base/mobile unit.
Just my .02....
Reg
If you have an iPhone, there is an awesome app that includes CLT ATC and Ground...The name escapes me at the moment, just search for ATC scanner in the App store. Works really well even when you are not at the airport - internet based.
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Chaz Hinkle <chazzer@...> wrote:
I'm also about 10 nm away... near Ballentyne, to the SE of the field. I have a Uniden SC150... aka a "SportCat" and just use the standard rubber whip antenna.
I'm able to pick up a lot of approach/departure traffic, especially traffic in my quadrant (ie to the South and East)... From my upstairs I can *sometimes* pick up field ops (ground, taxi, stuff like that) but most of what I hear is stuff in the air.
Keep in mind that in that frequency range most of the communications are going to be line-of-site... So it won't matter how big your antenna is... If you have much curvature of the earth between you and the field, you're gonna be outta luck. I would say at 10 miles you are on the very ragged edge of hearing the field... But, you can hear a LOT of stuff overhead.
On Nov 22, 2009, at 7:23 PM, p_u_r_e_energy wrote:
Hello group-
I am once again considering the purchase of a scanner to use at the overlook/airport area AND at home. I live roughly 10 miles east of CLT (near the Cotswold shopping center, off Randolph rd.). I am looking at a refurbished Uniden BC350C (on their site) for $79.99 (new = $119.99). It comes with AC and DC wires, and a few antennas from what I can tell. I believe I would need to buy an external speaker, since I don't think it has one built in- do most though?? Also- I'd be curious to know what I'm up against to pick up any transmissions originating at CLT, which, again is 10 miles away. How big of an antenna would I need to buy? I can't have the neighbors getting angry at the eyesore of an antenna I am imagining!! :-)
Are any of you able pick up signals at your home? Thanks for any help/advice you can offer!
I'm also about 10 nm away... near Ballentyne, to the SE of the field. I have a Uniden SC150... aka a "SportCat" and just use the standard rubber whip antenna.
I'm able to pick up a lot of approach/departure traffic, especially traffic in my quadrant (ie to the South and East)... From my upstairs I can *sometimes* pick up field ops (ground, taxi, stuff like that) but most of what I hear is stuff in the air.
Keep in mind that in that frequency range most of the communications are going to be line-of-site... So it won't matter how big your antenna is... If you have much curvature of the earth between you and the field, you're gonna be outta luck. I would say at 10 miles you are on the very ragged edge of hearing the field... But, you can hear a LOT of stuff overhead.
On Nov 22, 2009, at 7:23 PM, p_u_r_e_energy wrote:
Hello group-
I am once again considering the purchase of a scanner to use at the overlook/airport area AND at home. I live roughly 10 miles east of CLT (near the Cotswold shopping center, off Randolph rd.). I am looking at a refurbished Uniden BC350C (on their site) for $79.99 (new = $119.99). It comes with AC and DC wires, and a few antennas from what I can tell. I believe I would need to buy an external speaker, since I don't think it has one built in- do most though?? Also- I'd be curious to know what I'm up against to pick up any transmissions originating at CLT, which, again is 10 miles away. How big of an antenna would I need to buy? I can't have the neighbors getting angry at the eyesore of an antenna I am imagining!! :-)
Are any of you able pick up signals at your home? Thanks for any help/advice you can offer!
Hello group-
I am once again considering the purchase of a scanner to use at the
overlook/airport area AND at home. I live roughly 10 miles east of CLT (near
the Cotswold shopping center, off Randolph rd.). I am looking at a refurbished
Uniden BC350C (on their site) for $79.99 (new = $119.99). It comes with AC and
DC wires, and a few antennas from what I can tell. I believe I would need to
buy an external speaker, since I don't think it has one built in- do most
though?? Also- I'd be curious to know what I'm up against to pick up any
transmissions originating at CLT, which, again is 10 miles away. How big of an
antenna would I need to buy? I can't have the neighbors getting angry at the
eyesore of an antenna I am imagining!! :-)
Are any of you able pick up signals at your home? Thanks for any help/advice
you can offer!
Drew
Just joined the group, I'm from Surrey, England but have at least 2 spotting trips a year across the pond. So far I've done Orlando, Miami, Detroit, Memphis, Wilmington, Fort Lauderdale and plenty of biz and light airfields in between. Haven't ventured into North Carolina yet but that could well be one for next year.
I run a website, http://AircraftSpotting.co.uk which contains airport locations, viewing areas, hotels, museums, preserved aircraft, airfields and gliding strips from around the world. You will find a lot of info on the UK and Ireland in case you're planning on visiting, and the most comprehensive pages are currently Spain (36 airports), France (57 airports) and Switzerland (25 airports) - if you're flying over for the WEF, Davos at Zurich in Jan or EBACE at Geneva in May then check the site out, it will definitely help you plan your trip. And all the locations, spotting areas and hotels are plotted on Google Maps and Google Earth for you to download and keep to look at whenever you like. You can also read about my site's progress on Twitter at http://twitter.com/aircraftspottin and on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=170086181102. Spotting and planning your trip just got a whole lot easier!
The US section is looking a little bare at the moment, that's a work in progress, 52 states contain a lot of airports and airfields!
Thanks for letting me join your group and I look forward to my next visit overseas
Cheers
Chris
http://AircraftSpotting.co.uk for spotting locations, information and directions to airfields, airports and farm strips of UK and Ireland, and spotting locations and hotels of airports worldwide
AircraftSpotting.co.uk is now on Google Maps and Google Earth - the airports, airfields, hotels, viewing areas and preserved aircraft have been plotted onto Google Earth and are available to download now, visit my site for screenshots of this great new addition. Spotting and planning your trip has never been easier
The freighter versions have always had the short upper deck... On a freighter, the stretched deck is really just wasted space and added weight... So Boeing always built the -F versions with the short hump. If you see a freighter with a long deck, that means it started out life as a people hauler.
The pax version of the 8 (the "Intercontinental" version) will have a SUD.
On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Matt Johnson wrote:
I thought the -800 would have an extended deck (a little bit longer than the -400)? This aircraft looks to have the new engines and wings, but has a -100 or -200 looking hump. Will this now be an option on the -800?
PS. Trans States Airlines, a US Airways Express carrier has become the first North American customer to order the new Mitsubishi Regional Jet with an order for 50 with 50 options.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Chaz Hinkle <chazzer@...> wrote:
The freighter versions have always had the short upper deck... On a freighter, the stretched deck is really just wasted space and added weight... So Boeing always built the -F versions with the short hump. If you see a freighter with a long deck, that means it started out life as a people hauler.
The pax version of the 8 (the "Intercontinental" version) will have a SUD.
On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Matt Johnson wrote:
I thought the -800 would have an extended deck (a little bit longer than the -400)? This aircraft looks to have the new engines and wings, but has a -100 or -200 looking hump. Will this now be an option on the -800?
PS. Trans States Airlines, a US Airways Express carrier has become the first North American customer to order the new Mitsubishi Regional Jet with an order for 50 with 50 options.
The freighter versions have always had the short upper deck... On a freighter, the stretched deck is really just wasted space and added weight... So Boeing always built the -F versions with the short hump. If you see a freighter with a long deck, that means it started out life as a people hauler.
The pax version of the 8 (the "Intercontinental" version) will have a SUD.
On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Matt Johnson wrote:
I thought the -800 would have an extended deck (a little bit longer than the -400)? This aircraft looks to have the new engines and wings, but has a -100 or -200 looking hump. Will this now be an option on the -800?
PS. Trans States Airlines, a US Airways Express carrier has become the first North American customer to order the new Mitsubishi Regional Jet with an order for 50 with 50 options.
I thought the -800 would have an extended deck (a little bit longer than the -400)? This aircraft looks to have the new engines and wings, but has a -100 or -200 looking hump. Will this now be an option on the -800?
PS. Trans States Airlines, a US Airways Express carrier has become the first North American customer to order the new Mitsubishi Regional Jet with an order for 50 with 50 options.
PS. Trans States Airlines, a US Airways Express carrier has become the first North American customer to order the new Mitsubishi Regional Jet with an order for 50 with 50 options.
The first Boeing 747-800 has left the paint shop and been towed to the fueling
bay.
Hey Chaz, you have probably seen this video, knowing your fondness of the 747 I
thought you would like to see this.
http://kpae.blogspot.com/2009/11/747-8-n747ex.html
PS. Trans States Airlines, a US Airways Express carrier has become the first
North American customer to order the new Mitsubishi Regional Jet with an order
for 50 with 50 options.
Lyndon
I believe that is still the plan, but I have no idea what the timeframe is.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
From: Michael Lowrey <mlowrey11@...>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:23:57 -0800 (PST)
To: <PlaneSpottingCLT@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PlaneSpottingCLT] New runway opening
IIRC, the idea was to open it for VFR traffic only as the ILS wouldn't be ready for a few more months (February or March?). Is that still the game plan, and if so, any idea when will the ILS systems be ready?
Michael
--- On Mon, 11/2/09, Jay Selman <aviation.writer@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jay Selman <aviation.writer@gmail.com> Subject: [PlaneSpottingCLT] New runway opening To: PlaneSpottingCLT@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 12:00 PM
Hi all,
FYI, I am hearing that the new runway in CLT won't be opening until at least December 15...maybe as late as January 1. That's good news as far as I am concerned!
IIRC, the idea was to open it for VFR traffic only as the ILS wouldn't be ready for a few more months (February or March?). Is that still the game plan, and if so, any idea when will the ILS systems be ready?
Michael
--- On Mon, 11/2/09, Jay Selman <aviation.writer@...> wrote:
From: Jay Selman <aviation.writer@...> Subject: [PlaneSpottingCLT] New runway opening To: PlaneSpottingCLT@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 12:00 PM
Hi all,
FYI, I am hearing that the new runway in CLT won't be opening until at least December 15...maybe as late as January 1. That's good news as far as I am concerned!
FYI, I am hearing that the new runway in CLT won't be opening until at least December 15...maybe as late as January 1. That's good news as far as I am concerned!
Air Trans' second NFL theme jet visited CLT today less than a week after being
rolled out.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6697689
Trent that will be at least one beer I owe you, it left after 5.00pm finally.
Lyndon
Just read this and thought you all may be interested.
By DANIEL LOVERING and GEORGE TIBBITS, Associated Press Writers Daniel Lovering
And George Tibbits, Associated Press Writers – 58 mins ago
SEATTLE – Boeing Co. will open a second assembly line for its long-delayed 787
jetliner in South Carolina, expanding beyond its longtime manufacturing base in
Washington state to take advantage of economic incentives and a nonunion work
force.
The Chicago-based airplane maker said Wednesday it chose the site in North
Charleston over Everett, Wash., because it best suited plans to boost production
of the highly anticipated jet, designed to carry up to 250 passengers.
The decision ended an interstate competition for the huge factory, with South
Carolina prevailing over the state where Boeing has built airplanes for decades.
It hands South Carolina production of a plane crucial to Boeing's future but one
plagued by problems stemming partly from the company's reliance on suppliers
spanning the globe.
South Carolina offered Boeing $170 million in incentives and relief from sales
taxes on things like fuel used in test flights.
The move wasn't entirely unexpected. Boeing already operates a factory in North
Charleston that makes 787 parts and owns a 50-percent stake in another plant
that also produces sections of the plane, Boeing's best-selling new aircraft to
date.
About 55 airlines have ordered some 840 of the planes since the program was
launched in 2003 — far more than any other Boeing plane at the same stage of
development.
Boeing also has long complained about the business climate in Washington and
frequent strikes by production workers. At Boeing's plant in North Charleston,
workers last month voted against continued representation by the International
Association of Machinists.
North Carolina, Kansas, Texas and California were also viewed a competitors for
the plant. But Boeing said last week it had narrowed the choices to Washington
and South Carolina.
Boeing ultimately could decide to move all 787 production away from Everett,
said analyst Scott Hamilton of Leeham Co. The failure of Boeing and the union to
reach a no-strike agreement meant Charleston was "a foregone conclusion."
More ominously, Boeing is expected to decide in three to five years on
replacement planes for its best-selling 737 and 777 models and where they will
be built.
"Over the course of the next decade and-a-half you could see Boeing being just a
shadow of itself here," he said, referring to Washington.
Everett is the site of Boeing's commercial aircraft division, where the company
has assembled early versions of the 787. Last year, a walkout by union
machinists there and at other sites in Washington forced the company to shut its
commercial plane operations for eight weeks.
Unlike Boeing's other commercial jets, the 787 will be built mostly from
lightweight carbon composite parts instead of aluminum. As a result, the 787
will be more efficient, quieter and have lower emissions than other airplanes,
Boeing says. The mid-size plane will include wider seats and aisles, and larger
windows.
Boeing has relied on suppliers to build huge sections of the plane that are
later assembled in Everett. But that approach so far has proved problematic,
with ill-fitting parts and other glitches hampering production.
Boeing has postponed the plane's inaugural test flight and deliveries five
times, putting it more than two years behind schedule. The delays have cost
Boeing credibility and billions of dollars in anticipated costs and penalties.
The company could break ground in South Carolina as soon as next month, with the
first 787 slated to leave the factory in the first quarter of 2012. The company
aims to produce 10 of the planes a month by 2013. By comparison, it makes about
31 of its 737s and seven of its popular 777s a month.
South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford called the plant a "monumental" investment that
will spur the state's already-growing aerospace hub.
In Washington, meanwhile, Gov. Chris Gregoire said she and other officials would
work hard to land future, larger Boeing projects.
She said the decision came down to Boeing's rocky relationship with the
Machinists union and a failure to reach a no-strike deal.
"I'm disappointed, I'm angry, I hurt for the workers and I think the company
made the wrong decision," she said. "But I wasn't at the table."
The Machinists' international president, Tom Buffenbarger, denied Boeing's
decision was based on concerns over future strikes.
"Corporate decisions like this are years in the making, and this one is no
different."
There is a Korean Air flight scheduled to arrive at CLT at 10.53pm this evening
as KAL7309. No aircraft type specified (probably an Ejet). I haven't found a
code share yet but haven't looked to hard either.
In addition to the AirTran Falcons logo jet shot by Jay the other day there is
another AirTran 717 painted as a Ravens logojet. Something to watch for if you
visit the airport.
vc10er