Is there still a supply of that chemical for drying things out? I was
gone for the fall and my autos grew a health crop of mold. Would like
to be able to leave a tub on the floorboard next time I'm away.

I guess I need a couple of quarts.

Dallas

Yes the Neighborhood Watch Meeting is tonight at 7:00 in the Beach House.
We look forward to seeing everyone there.

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Donald DeMille <demilledm@...> wrote:


From: Donald DeMille <demilledm@...>
Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] Break in on Park Dr.
To: PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 10:02 AM


 




7:00p.m. @ the Beach House is what I am hearing. Hadn't seen anything like this
in the 7 years I have lived here.
Don

--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Puppy Love <puppylovepets@ gmail.com> wrote:

From: Puppy Love <puppylovepets@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] Break in on Park Dr.
To: PineLakeGA@yahoogro ups.com
Cc: "Pine Lake" <pinelakegeorgia@ yahoogroups. com>, "pinelakeannounce"
<pinelakeannounce@ yahoogroups. com>
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:19 PM

 

When and where is the neighborhhod watch?

Thanks!

Dee

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7:00p.m. @ the Beach House is what I am hearing. Hadn't seen anything like this
in the 7 years I have lived here.
Don

--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Puppy Love <puppylovepets@...> wrote:

From: Puppy Love <puppylovepets@...>
Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] Break in on Park Dr.
To: PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Pine Lake" <pinelakegeorgia@yahoogroups.com>, "pinelakeannounce"
<pinelakeannounce@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:19 PM
















 









       When and where is the neighborhhod watch?



Thanks!

Dee



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When and where is the neighborhhod watch?

Thanks!
Dee


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Unfortunately there was another break in on Wednesday night that wasn't
confirmed until Saturday morning, and I only learned of it yesterday. I had to
wait until I heard from the homeowners before I could post it on the list serve.
 
This was on Park Dr. near Grove. There was apparently 1 window left unlocked and
the person came in through there. The husband discovered one item and the money
missing on Thursday, from his wallet.( which was left on a table..) The Wife
discovered her purse had been ransacked on Saturday morning before coming to the
pancake breakfast. All the money was missing  and it was thought that no credit
cards were taken but,the homeowner discovered some charges on his mastercard and
debit card last night, so even though no credit cards were taken, apparently the
person wrote down the info. They wanted me to tell people who have been
burglarized to check accounts daily.
 
PLEASE JOIN US FOR AN EMERGENCY NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH MEETING ON WEDNESDAY
NIGHT(TOMORROW)    And remember to lock all doors and windows and PLEASE leave
your outside lights on at night and especially when you are away.
Thanks
 Faye Ridling
Neighborhood Watch Co-Chair

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Does anyone have a summary of the break ins already prepared?  Just a list of
dates of events would be great, or if you have already compiled a list with a
few more details such as time of day, whether anything was taken, etc., would be
very helpful.  If not, I can try plowing through the postings here....

Apologies.  I hit the wrong button (twice!) on this tiny keyboard....
I was trying to email Annette directly to say that sometimes Yahoo
marks things as spam that then need moderator approval to be posted.

iPhone in hand

On Dec 2, 2009, at 7:46 PM, "Annette Cotter" <annettecotter@...
  > wrote:

> is this site censored? i just sent a message which is in my sent
> box, but it has not appeared...hmmmm...in fact i sent it twice...hmmm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jrs1mom
> To: Greg Creech ; Pine Lake ; Pine Lake II ; pinelakeannounce
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:49 PM
> Subject: [PineLakeGA] Fw: Re: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
>
> Subject: Re: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
> To: "jrs1mom" <jrs1mom@...>, creechgreg@...
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 4:00 PM
>
> Dear Faye and Greg,
>
> Early this morning, about 3:45 am, we heard a loud metal crash
> outside our bedroom window. After a pause, we heard two more metal
> crashes as if someone was tripping over something we had stored at
> the side of our home. Upon investigation, a metal car ramp, stored
> under the window, had been moved considerably further than weather
> (or gravity had it fallen over on its own) would have caused. We
> feel certain it was an intruder attempting to climb in a window on
> the darker side of our house.
>
> We called 911, and a Pine Lake officer responded quickly and took a
> look around and agreed things did not look like natural causes. It's
> good to have 24-hour police service here within Pine Lake, and that
> they are so responsive.
>
> We are in the Spruce/Dahlia area, the back side of the lake where it
> appears that much of the burglaries are taking place.
>
> We would like to request another neighborhood watch meeting as soon
> as possible since these home invasions now seem to be occurring when
> people are home sleeping, not just when they have gone out for a
> while.
>
> We thank you for your service and dedication to the safety of our
> community..
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/2/09, jrs1mom <jrs1mom@...> wrote:
>
> From: jrs1mom <jrs1mom@...>
> Subject: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
> To: "Pine Lake" <pinelakegeorgia@yahoogroups.com>, "Pine Lake II"
<PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
> >, "pinelakeannounce" <pinelakeannounce@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:48 PM
>
> Hi neighbors,
> An intruder went into a home on Olive Rd. early yesterday morning. A
> laptop was taken from the sofa , while a homeowner was in the bed
> asleep.
>
> Please be on the lookout for anyone acting strange or out of place
> in your areas. And call 911 if you see anything out of the
> ordinary.Without our vigilant watching of our streets and neighbors
> homes these creeps will keep invading our homes.
>
> Thank you,
> Faye Ridling and Greg Creech
> Neighborhood Watch Co-Chairs
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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iPhone in hand

On Dec 2, 2009, at 7:46 PM, "Annette Cotter" <annettecotter@...
  > wrote:

> is this site censored? i just sent a message which is in my sent
> box, but it has not appeared...hmmmm...in fact i sent it twice...hmmm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jrs1mom
> To: Greg Creech ; Pine Lake ; Pine Lake II ; pinelakeannounce
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:49 PM
> Subject: [PineLakeGA] Fw: Re: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
>
> Subject: Re: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
> To: "jrs1mom" <jrs1mom@...>, creechgreg@...
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 4:00 PM
>
> Dear Faye and Greg,
>
> Early this morning, about 3:45 am, we heard a loud metal crash
> outside our bedroom window. After a pause, we heard two more metal
> crashes as if someone was tripping over something we had stored at
> the side of our home. Upon investigation, a metal car ramp, stored
> under the window, had been moved considerably further than weather
> (or gravity had it fallen over on its own) would have caused. We
> feel certain it was an intruder attempting to climb in a window on
> the darker side of our house.
>
> We called 911, and a Pine Lake officer responded quickly and took a
> look around and agreed things did not look like natural causes. It's
> good to have 24-hour police service here within Pine Lake, and that
> they are so responsive.
>
> We are in the Spruce/Dahlia area, the back side of the lake where it
> appears that much of the burglaries are taking place.
>
> We would like to request another neighborhood watch meeting as soon
> as possible since these home invasions now seem to be occurring when
> people are home sleeping, not just when they have gone out for a
> while.
>
> We thank you for your service and dedication to the safety of our
> community..
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/2/09, jrs1mom <jrs1mom@...> wrote:
>
> From: jrs1mom <jrs1mom@...>
> Subject: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
> To: "Pine Lake" <pinelakegeorgia@yahoogroups.com>, "Pine Lake II"
<PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
> >, "pinelakeannounce" <pinelakeannounce@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:48 PM
>
> Hi neighbors,
> An intruder went into a home on Olive Rd. early yesterday morning. A
> laptop was taken from the sofa , while a homeowner was in the bed
> asleep.
>
> Please be on the lookout for anyone acting strange or out of place
> in your areas. And call 911 if you see anything out of the
> ordinary.Without our vigilant watching of our streets and neighbors
> homes these creeps will keep invading our homes.
>
> Thank you,
> Faye Ridling and Greg Creech
> Neighborhood Watch Co-Chairs
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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iPhone in hand

On Dec 2, 2009, at 7:46 PM, "Annette Cotter" <annettecotter@...
  > wrote:

> is this site censored? i just sent a message which is in my sent
> box, but it has not appeared...hmmmm...in fact i sent it twice...hmmm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jrs1mom
> To: Greg Creech ; Pine Lake ; Pine Lake II ; pinelakeannounce
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:49 PM
> Subject: [PineLakeGA] Fw: Re: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
>
> Subject: Re: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
> To: "jrs1mom" <jrs1mom@...>, creechgreg@...
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 4:00 PM
>
> Dear Faye and Greg,
>
> Early this morning, about 3:45 am, we heard a loud metal crash
> outside our bedroom window. After a pause, we heard two more metal
> crashes as if someone was tripping over something we had stored at
> the side of our home. Upon investigation, a metal car ramp, stored
> under the window, had been moved considerably further than weather
> (or gravity had it fallen over on its own) would have caused. We
> feel certain it was an intruder attempting to climb in a window on
> the darker side of our house.
>
> We called 911, and a Pine Lake officer responded quickly and took a
> look around and agreed things did not look like natural causes. It's
> good to have 24-hour police service here within Pine Lake, and that
> they are so responsive.
>
> We are in the Spruce/Dahlia area, the back side of the lake where it
> appears that much of the burglaries are taking place.
>
> We would like to request another neighborhood watch meeting as soon
> as possible since these home invasions now seem to be occurring when
> people are home sleeping, not just when they have gone out for a
> while.
>
> We thank you for your service and dedication to the safety of our
> community..
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/2/09, jrs1mom <jrs1mom@...> wrote:
>
> From: jrs1mom <jrs1mom@...>
> Subject: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
> To: "Pine Lake" <pinelakegeorgia@yahoogroups.com>, "Pine Lake II"
<PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
> >, "pinelakeannounce" <pinelakeannounce@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:48 PM
>
> Hi neighbors,
> An intruder went into a home on Olive Rd. early yesterday morning. A
> laptop was taken from the sofa , while a homeowner was in the bed
> asleep.
>
> Please be on the lookout for anyone acting strange or out of place
> in your areas. And call 911 if you see anything out of the
> ordinary.Without our vigilant watching of our streets and neighbors
> homes these creeps will keep invading our homes.
>
> Thank you,
> Faye Ridling and Greg Creech
> Neighborhood Watch Co-Chairs
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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is this site censored?  i just sent a message which is in my sent box, but it
has not appeared...hmmmm...in fact i sent it twice...hmmm
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: jrs1mom
   To: Greg Creech ; Pine Lake ; Pine Lake II ; pinelakeannounce
   Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:49 PM
   Subject: [PineLakeGA] Fw: Re: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder





   Subject: Re: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
   To: "jrs1mom" <jrs1mom@...>, creechgreg@...
   Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 4:00 PM

   Dear Faye and Greg,

   Early this morning, about 3:45 am, we heard a loud metal crash outside our
bedroom window.  After a pause, we heard two more metal crashes as if someone
was tripping over something we had stored at the side of our home.  Upon
investigation, a metal car ramp, stored under the window, had been moved
considerably further than weather (or gravity had it fallen over on its own)
would have caused.  We feel certain it was an intruder attempting to climb in a
window on the darker side of our house.

   We called 911, and a Pine Lake officer responded quickly and took a look
around and agreed things did not look like natural causes.  It's good to have
24-hour police service here within Pine Lake, and that they are so responsive.

   We are in the Spruce/Dahlia area, the back side of the lake where it appears
that much of the burglaries are taking place.

   We would like to request another neighborhood watch meeting as soon as
possible since these home invasions now seem to be occurring when people are
home sleeping, not just when they have gone out for a while.

   We thank you for your service and dedication to the safety of our community..





   --- On Wed, 12/2/09, jrs1mom <jrs1mom@...> wrote:

   From: jrs1mom <jrs1mom@...>
   Subject: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
   To: "Pine Lake" <pinelakegeorgia@yahoogroups.com>, "Pine Lake II"
<PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com>, "pinelakeannounce"
<pinelakeannounce@yahoogroups.com>
   Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:48 PM



    Hi neighbors,
     An intruder went into a home on Olive Rd. early yesterday morning. A  laptop
was taken from the sofa , while a homeowner was in the bed asleep.

   Please be on the lookout for anyone acting strange or out of place in your
areas. And call 911 if you see anything out of the ordinary.Without  our
vigilant watching of our streets and neighbors homes these creeps will keep
invading our homes.

   Thank you,
   Faye Ridling and Greg Creech
   Neighborhood Watch Co-Chairs

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We will be having a Neighborhood Watch meeting next week. The day is to be
determined after we ask the Mayor, Council and the Chief what day they can
attend. I will let you know as soon as I get a day and time.
 
 HERE ARE SOME THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP KEEP OURSELVES,OUR HOMES AND PROPERTY
SAFE:
 
PLEASE be vigilant with locking your doors and windows. Close your curtains and
or blinds after dark, so people can not see what is in your home. Also turn on
outside lights or add motion sensors and watch when ever you are outside not
just your property but your neighbors. Also cut back shrubery so they don't have
a place to hide. 
Also when you are going out of town for the Holidays.... fill out a house watch
form and take it to City Hall so the Police will watch your home.  
http://pinelakega.com/police-public-safety/house-watch-form/
 
Thank you,
Faye Ridling and Greg Creech
Co-Chairs Pine Lake Neighborhood Watch

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Subject: Re: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
To: "jrs1mom" <jrs1mom@...>, creechgreg@...
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 4:00 PM








Dear Faye and Greg,
 
Early this morning, about 3:45 am, we heard a loud metal crash outside our
bedroom window.  After a pause, we heard two more metal crashes as if someone
was tripping over something we had stored at the side of our home.  Upon
investigation, a metal car ramp, stored under the window, had been moved
considerably further than weather (or gravity had it fallen over on its own)
would have caused.  We feel certain it was an intruder attempting to climb in
a window on the darker side of our house.
 
We called 911, and a Pine Lake officer responded quickly and took a look around
and agreed things did not look like natural causes.  It's good to have 24-hour
police service here within Pine Lake, and that they are so responsive.
 
We are in the Spruce/Dahlia area, the back side of the lake where it appears
that much of the burglaries are taking place.
 
We would like to request another neighborhood watch meeting as soon as possible
since these home invasions now seem to be occurring when people are home
sleeping, not just when they have gone out for a while.
 
We thank you for your service and dedication to the safety of our community..
 
 
 
    

--- On Wed, 12/2/09, jrs1mom <jrs1mom@...> wrote:


From: jrs1mom <jrs1mom@...>
Subject: [pinelakeannounce] Another Intruder
To: "Pine Lake" <pinelakegeorgia@yahoogroups.com>, "Pine Lake II"
<PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com>, "pinelakeannounce"
<pinelakeannounce@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:48 PM


 



 Hi neighbors,
  An intruder went into a home on Olive Rd. early yesterday morning. A 
laptop was taken from the sofa , while a homeowner was in the bed asleep.
 
Please be on the lookout for anyone acting strange or out of place in your
areas. And call 911 if you see anything out of the ordinary.Without  our
vigilant watching of our streets and neighbors homes these creeps will keep
invading our homes.
 
Thank you,
Faye Ridling and Greg Creech
Neighborhood Watch Co-Chairs

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Annette,
Somebody out there is gonna call you a racist, but I KNOW better..  Always love
to hear your take on things. You woulda been the kid that pointed out that the
emperor was really nekkid.
Jonny Hibbert

Jonny Hibbert via iPhone

On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:18 PM, "Annette Cotter" <annettecotter@...>
wrote:

Bill and I went for a walk the other day.. On the new gravel road to the right
of the lake. It was quite a lovely walk, manicured and beautiful leading all the
way to the neighborhood which I believe is Aberdeen. And I believe it was here
where the dead pit bulls were found and where a dogfighting ring was in
operation. Does it occur to anyone but me that people who run dogfighting rings
might engage in all manner of illegal activity, and that building them a
beautiful paved walking path straight into our city might lead to a rise in the
crime rate? And tho it doesn't seem to be quite finished yet, the ground is
cleared and cleaned on the other side of the lake which opens our neighborhood
up to other communities with citizens who are certainly strangers to most of us
and gunfire has been reported there more than once. Is anyone else wondering why
our city government thought it was a good thing to build these primrose paths to
these other neighborhoods
  and make it seem almost like a welcome mat had been thrown down for all manner
of visitors whom none of us know, really, to come through here and case Pine
Lake for whatever reasons they might have. I'm just sayin'...

Annette Cotter
----- Original Message -----
From: jrs1mom
To: Pine Lake ; Pine Lake II ; pinelakeannounce
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:48 PM
Subject: [PineLakeGA] Another Intruder

Hi neighbors,
An intruder went into a home on Olive Rd. early yesterday morning. A laptop was
taken from the sofa , while a homeowner was in the bed asleep.

Please be on the lookout for anyone acting strange or out of place in your
areas.. And call 911 if you see anything out of the ordinary.Without our
vigilant watching of our streets and neighbors homes these creeps will keep
invading our homes.

Thank you,
Faye Ridling and Greg Creech
Neighborhood Watch Co-Chairs

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Annette -
Having lived in a neighborhood in Charlotte, NC where they people made their
own path thru the woods to our neighborhood, I have wondered the same thing.
If nothing else it gives people who are up to no good a quick path out of
the neighborhood that they didn't have in the past.

Dee

--
When I want to hear the pitter patter of little feet, I will put shoes on
the dog!


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I want to install more outside lighting.  Need affordable service.

--
Namaste,

Gail Hagenbuch
Thoughts become things... choose the good ones! ®


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Bill and I went for a walk the other day.  On the new gravel road to the right
of the lake.  It was quite a lovely walk, manicured and beautiful leading all
the way to the neighborhood which I believe is Aberdeen.  And I believe it was
here where the dead pit bulls were found and where a dogfighting ring was in
operation.  Does it occur to anyone but me that people who run dogfighting rings
might engage in all manner of illegal activity, and that building them a
beautiful paved walking path straight into our city might lead to a rise in the
crime rate?  And tho it doesn't seem to be quite finished yet, the ground is
cleared and cleaned on the other side of the lake which opens our neighborhood
up to other communities with citizens who are certainly strangers to most of us
and gunfire has been reported there more than once.  Is anyone else wondering
why our city government thought it was a good thing to build these primrose
paths to these other neighborhoods and make it seem almost like a welcome mat
had been thrown down for all manner of visitors whom none of us know, really, to
come through here and case Pine Lake for whatever reasons they might have.  I'm
just sayin'...

Annette Cotter
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: jrs1mom
   To: Pine Lake ; Pine Lake II ; pinelakeannounce
   Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:48 PM
   Subject: [PineLakeGA] Another Intruder



    Hi neighbors,
     An intruder went into a home on Olive Rd. early yesterday morning. A  laptop
was taken from the sofa , while a homeowner was in the bed asleep.

   Please be on the lookout for anyone acting strange or out of place in your
areas. And call 911 if you see anything out of the ordinary.Without our vigilant
watching of our streets and neighbors homes these creeps will keep invading our
homes.

   Thank you,
   Faye Ridling and Greg Creech
   Neighborhood Watch Co-Chairs

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 Hi neighbors,
  An intruder went into a home on Olive Rd. early yesterday morning. A  laptop
was taken from the sofa , while a homeowner was in the bed asleep.
 
Please be on the lookout for anyone acting strange or out of place in your
areas. And call 911 if you see anything out of the ordinary.Without our vigilant
watching of our streets and neighbors homes these creeps will keep invading our
homes.
 
Thank you,
Faye Ridling and Greg Creech
Neighborhood Watch Co-Chairs

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Over the weekend we found a family of dogs living under our neighbor's deck at
the Hambrick end of Ridge Drive. There are two reddish "Setter" type adult dogs,
one who is obviously the mother of three ADORABLE puppies who look to be 8 to 10
weeks old. They appear very healthy and active. Both adult dogs have collars.
There are
also two pit bull mixes, one is a male calico stripe with a collar and one is
white female without a collar. Both look very young and are very playful.

We did call Dekalb Animal Control before we checked out the situation. They
arrived very quickly but told us they would not take the puppies without the
mother. They said they would be back today to set some kind of trap, which
doesn't sound very humane to us.

We have taken in one of the pit bull mixers because he is very friendly and
obviously someone's pet. But the other dogs are skiddish and we can't take them
all in anyway. We are giving them food and water for now.

Our main concern right now are the puppies. Does anyone know of a pet rescue? Is
anyone interested in adopting one of the puppies? Our neighbor says he doesn't
care if they stay under his deck but it's
going to get colder soon.

Thanks for any help!

Jeff

Go Dennis!
----- Original Message -----
From: "dennis rotch" <drotch@...>
To: <PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members and Pine
Lake Citizens


> Laura,
>
> Hi,    you are dealing with 3 government entities and that
> automatically triggers what is known as 'red tape'.   There is a
> Council meeting tonight; go, and plead your case.  Re-writing the
> Flood Plain Ordinance could take a while.  Maybe the Council could
> pass a resolution of intent to update the Ordinance and that might
> satisfy the SBA?  Keep us informed.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> There are two words
> On Nov 24, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Laura Smith wrote:
>
>> The argument of "may" versus "is" reminds me of Bill Clinton's what
>> "is" means. I have alread been told that since the requirement is
>> not in the language of the flood ordinance, the mayor cannot say
>> that it is "required". There is a language in the flood ordinance
>> that says it doesn't have to be elevated for repair. That is why I
>> am asking that it be updated to be a requirement in these severe
>> circumstances. It would only affect those in the flood plain. It
>> would only affect houses that were severely damaged.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Annette Cotter <annettecotter@...>
>> To: PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 10:21:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members
>> and Pine Lake Citizens
>>
>> Hey, Tommy. Well, maybe someone can clear up your "may" and see if
>> it is a definite "is"...It seems like everytime those expensive
>> houses on the california coast crumble into the ocean the taxpayers
>> get to build the "stars" houses back on the same sinking sand.
>> Don't seem right, somehow. Anyway, good to hear from you. Whenever
>> I post hoping someone in our goverment is listening, the silence is
>> deafening... so much for communication. Sometimes Dennis responds,
>> however. Maybe he has a thought.--Annette
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Annette Cotter
>> To: PineLakeGA@yahoogro ups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members
>> and Pine Lake Citizens
>>
>> This seems so sensible I cannot imagine the Council refusing this
>> request. As a citizen. I support you 100%. I'm not sure how I can
>> help you except to say, step up, Pine Lake government and get this
>> done....or offer some really really good reasons why not.--Annette
>> Cotter
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: edsljslangategsuedu
>> To: PineLakeGA@yahoogro ups.com
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:19 PM
>> Subject: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members and
>> Pine Lake Citizens
>>
>> I live at 4649 Willow Road just off Lakeshore at Spruce Drive. I
>> have been unable to move back into my home since the September
>> flooding because of the damages incurred during the storm and the
>> heavy rains 3 days prior to the 100 year flood.
>>
>> I have worked with City of Pine Lake officals, FEMA and SBA for the
>> past two months trying to get started with repairs to the house. I
>> received enough grant money through FEMA to cover remediation of
>> mold and mildew. After that I was directed to apply for a low
>> interest SBA disaster loan, did that, and have been awarded what
>> they estimated I will need to be able to make repairs and replace
>> contents of the home.
>>
>> However, before I can in good conscience use the government
>> supported loan and my own money, elevation of the house needs to be
>> a consideration. It would be a waste of funds appropriated to spend
>> without consideration to the fact that the house after a survey was
>> found to be 3 feet below the flood certification level.
>>
>> SBA is asking that Pine Lake "require" that the house be elevated
>> in order for them to consider that the elevation should be included
>> in damages or at least partially in their estimate.
>>
>> Please help me to present to the council a request that it be
>> written into our flood ordinance or as a variance for my property
>> that homes that sustain over 50% of the assessed value in damages
>> that are in the flood plain should be "required" to be elevated for
>> the safety of the property in future floods and for the health of
>> the community.
>>
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Laura,

Hi,    you are dealing with 3 government entities and that
automatically triggers what is known as 'red tape'.   There is a
Council meeting tonight; go, and plead your case.  Re-writing the
Flood Plain Ordinance could take a while.  Maybe the Council could
pass a resolution of intent to update the Ordinance and that might
satisfy the SBA?  Keep us informed.

Dennis


There are two words
On Nov 24, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Laura Smith wrote:

> The argument of "may" versus "is" reminds me of Bill Clinton's what
> "is" means. I have alread been told that since the requirement is
> not in the language of the flood ordinance, the mayor cannot say
> that it is "required". There is a language in the flood ordinance
> that says it doesn't have to be elevated for repair. That is why I
> am asking that it be updated to be a requirement in these severe
> circumstances. It would only affect those in the flood plain. It
> would only affect houses that were severely damaged.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Annette Cotter <annettecotter@...>
> To: PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 10:21:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members
> and Pine Lake Citizens
>
> Hey, Tommy. Well, maybe someone can clear up your "may" and see if
> it is a definite "is"...It seems like everytime those expensive
> houses on the california coast crumble into the ocean the taxpayers
> get to build the "stars" houses back on the same sinking sand.
> Don't seem right, somehow. Anyway, good to hear from you. Whenever
> I post hoping someone in our goverment is listening, the silence is
> deafening... so much for communication. Sometimes Dennis responds,
> however. Maybe he has a thought.--Annette
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Annette Cotter
> To: PineLakeGA@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members
> and Pine Lake Citizens
>
> This seems so sensible I cannot imagine the Council refusing this
> request. As a citizen. I support you 100%. I'm not sure how I can
> help you except to say, step up, Pine Lake government and get this
> done....or offer some really really good reasons why not.--Annette
> Cotter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: edsljslangategsuedu
> To: PineLakeGA@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:19 PM
> Subject: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members and
> Pine Lake Citizens
>
> I live at 4649 Willow Road just off Lakeshore at Spruce Drive. I
> have been unable to move back into my home since the September
> flooding because of the damages incurred during the storm and the
> heavy rains 3 days prior to the 100 year flood.
>
> I have worked with City of Pine Lake officals, FEMA and SBA for the
> past two months trying to get started with repairs to the house. I
> received enough grant money through FEMA to cover remediation of
> mold and mildew. After that I was directed to apply for a low
> interest SBA disaster loan, did that, and have been awarded what
> they estimated I will need to be able to make repairs and replace
> contents of the home.
>
> However, before I can in good conscience use the government
> supported loan and my own money, elevation of the house needs to be
> a consideration. It would be a waste of funds appropriated to spend
> without consideration to the fact that the house after a survey was
> found to be 3 feet below the flood certification level.
>
> SBA is asking that Pine Lake "require" that the house be elevated
> in order for them to consider that the elevation should be included
> in damages or at least partially in their estimate.
>
> Please help me to present to the council a request that it be
> written into our flood ordinance or as a variance for my property
> that homes that sustain over 50% of the assessed value in damages
> that are in the flood plain should be "required" to be elevated for
> the safety of the property in future floods and for the health of
> the community.
>
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The argument of "may" versus "is" reminds me of Bill Clinton's what "is" means.
I have alread been told that since the requirement is not in the language of the
flood ordinance, the mayor cannot say that it is "required". There is a language
in the flood ordinance that says it doesn't have to be elevated for repair. That
is why I am asking that it be updated to be a requirement in these severe
circumstances. It would only affect those in the flood plain. It would only
affect houses that were severely damaged.




________________________________
From: Annette Cotter <annettecotter@...>
To: PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 10:21:59 AM
Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members and Pine Lake
Citizens


Hey, Tommy.  Well, maybe someone can clear up your "may" and see if it is a
definite "is"...It seems like everytime those expensive houses on the california
coast crumble into the ocean the taxpayers get to build the "stars" houses back
on the same sinking sand.  Don't seem right, somehow.  Anyway, good to hear from
you.  Whenever I post hoping someone in our goverment is listening, the silence
is deafening... so much for communication.  Sometimes Dennis responds, however. 
Maybe he has a thought.--Annette
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Cotter
To: PineLakeGA@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members and Pine Lake
Citizens

This seems so sensible I cannot imagine the Council refusing this request. As a
citizen. I support you 100%. I'm not sure how I can help you except to say, step
up, Pine Lake government and get this done....or offer some really really good
reasons why not.--Annette Cotter
----- Original Message -----
From: edsljslangategsuedu
To: PineLakeGA@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:19 PM
Subject: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members and Pine Lake
Citizens

I live at 4649 Willow Road just off Lakeshore at Spruce Drive. I have been
unable to move back into my home since the September flooding because of the
damages incurred during the storm and the heavy rains 3 days prior to the 100
year flood.

I have worked with City of Pine Lake officals, FEMA and SBA for the past two
months trying to get started with repairs to the house. I received enough grant
money through FEMA to cover remediation of mold and mildew. After that I was
directed to apply for a low interest SBA disaster loan, did that, and have been
awarded what they estimated I will need to be able to make repairs and replace
contents of the home.

However, before I can in good conscience use the government supported loan and
my own money, elevation of the house needs to be a consideration. It would be a
waste of funds appropriated to spend without consideration to the fact that the
house after a survey was found to be 3 feet below the flood certification level.

SBA is asking that Pine Lake "require" that the house be elevated in order for
them to consider that the elevation should be included in damages or at least
partially in their estimate.

Please help me to present to the council a request that it be written into our
flood ordinance or as a variance for my property that homes that sustain over
50% of the assessed value in damages that are in the flood plain should be
"required" to be elevated for the safety of the property in future floods and
for the health of the community.

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hey, Tommy.  Well, maybe someone can clear up your "may" and see if it is a
definite "is"...It seems like everytime those expensive houses on the california
coast crumble into the ocean the taxpayers get to build the "stars" houses back
on the same sinking sand.  Don't seem right, somehow.  Anyway, good to hear from
you.  Whenever I post hoping someone in our goverment is listening, the silence
is deafening...so much for communication.  Sometimes Dennis responds, however. 
Maybe he has a thought.--Annette
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Annette Cotter
   To: PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:49 AM
   Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members and Pine Lake
Citizens



   This seems so sensible I cannot imagine the Council refusing this request. As
a citizen. I support you 100%. I'm not sure how I can help you except to say,
step up, Pine Lake government and get this done....or offer some really really
good reasons why not.--Annette Cotter
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: edsljslangategsuedu
   To: PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:19 PM
   Subject: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members and Pine Lake
Citizens

   I live at 4649 Willow Road just off Lakeshore at Spruce Drive. I have been
unable to move back into my home since the September flooding because of the
damages incurred during the storm and the heavy rains 3 days prior to the 100
year flood.

   I have worked with City of Pine Lake officals, FEMA and SBA for the past two
months trying to get started with repairs to the house. I received enough grant
money through FEMA to cover remediation of mold and mildew. After that I was
directed to apply for a low interest SBA disaster loan, did that, and have been
awarded what they estimated I will need to be able to make repairs and replace
contents of the home.

   However, before I can in good conscience use the government supported loan and
my own money, elevation of the house needs to be a consideration. It would be a
waste of funds appropriated to spend without consideration to the fact that the
house after a survey was found to be 3 feet below the flood certification level.

   SBA is asking that Pine Lake "require" that the house be elevated in order for
them to consider that the elevation should be included in damages or at least
partially in their estimate.

   Please help me to present to the council a request that it be written into our
flood ordinance or as a variance for my property that homes that sustain over
50% of the assessed value in damages that are in the flood plain should be
"required" to be elevated for the safety of the property in future floods and
for the health of the community.

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Thanks so much! It is good to hear back such positive support.



________________________________
From: Annette Cotter <annettecotter@...>
To: PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 8:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members and Pine Lake
Citizens


This seems so sensible I cannot imagine the Council refusing this request.  As a
citizen. I support you 100%.  I'm not sure how I can help you except to say,
step up, Pine Lake government and get this done....or offer some really really
good reasons why not.--Annette Cotter
----- Original Message -----
From: edsljslangategsuedu
To: PineLakeGA@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:19 PM
Subject: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members and Pine Lake
Citizens

I live at 4649 Willow Road just off Lakeshore at Spruce Drive. I have been
unable to move back into my home since the September flooding because of the
damages incurred during the storm and the heavy rains 3 days prior to the 100
year flood.

I have worked with City of Pine Lake officals, FEMA and SBA for the past two
months trying to get started with repairs to the house. I received enough grant
money through FEMA to cover remediation of mold and mildew. After that I was
directed to apply for a low interest SBA disaster loan, did that, and have been
awarded what they estimated I will need to be able to make repairs and replace
contents of the home.

However, before I can in good conscience use the government supported loan and
my own money, elevation of the house needs to be a consideration. It would be a
waste of funds appropriated to spend without consideration to the fact that the
house after a survey was found to be 3 feet below the flood certification level.

SBA is asking that Pine Lake "require" that the house be elevated in order for
them to consider that the elevation should be included in damages or at least
partially in their estimate.

Please help me to present to the council a request that it be written into our
flood ordinance or as a variance for my property that homes that sustain over
50% of the assessed value in damages that are in the flood plain should be
"required" to be elevated for the safety of the property in future floods and
for the health of the community.

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This seems so sensible I cannot imagine the Council refusing this request.  As a
citizen. I support you 100%.  I'm not sure how I can help you except to say,
step up, Pine Lake government and get this done....or offer some really really
good reasons why not.--Annette Cotter
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: edsljslangategsuedu
   To: PineLakeGA@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:19 PM
   Subject: [PineLakeGA] A Request to Pine Lake Council Members and Pine Lake
Citizens



   I live at 4649 Willow Road just off Lakeshore at Spruce Drive. I have been
unable to move back into my home since the September flooding because of the
damages incurred during the storm and the heavy rains 3 days prior to the 100
year flood.

   I have worked with City of Pine Lake officals, FEMA and SBA for the past two
months trying to get started with repairs to the house. I received enough grant
money through FEMA to cover remediation of mold and mildew. After that I was
directed to apply for a low interest SBA disaster loan, did that, and have been
awarded what they estimated I will need to be able to make repairs and replace
contents of the home.

   However, before I can in good conscience use the government supported loan and
my own money, elevation of the house needs to be a consideration. It would be a
waste of funds appropriated to spend without consideration to the fact that the
house after a survey was found to be 3 feet below the flood certification level.

   SBA is asking that Pine Lake "require" that the house be elevated in order for
them to consider that the elevation should be included in damages or at least
partially in their estimate.

   Please help me to present to the council a request that it be written into our
flood ordinance or as a variance for my property that homes that sustain over
50% of the assessed value in damages that are in the flood plain should be
"required" to be elevated for the safety of the property in future floods and
for the health of the community.





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I live at 4649 Willow Road just off Lakeshore at Spruce Drive. I have been
unable to move back into my home since the September flooding because of the
damages incurred during the storm and the heavy rains 3 days prior to the 100
year flood.

I have worked with City of Pine Lake officals, FEMA and SBA for the past two
months trying to get started with repairs to the house. I received enough grant
money through FEMA to cover remediation of mold and mildew. After that I was
directed to apply for a low interest SBA disaster loan, did that, and have been
awarded what they estimated I will need to be able to make repairs and replace
contents of the home.

However, before I can in good conscience use the government supported loan and
my own money, elevation of the house needs to be a consideration. It would be a
waste of funds appropriated to spend without consideration to the fact that the
house after a survey was found to be 3 feet below the flood certification level.

SBA is asking that Pine Lake "require" that the house be elevated in order for
them to consider that the elevation should be included in damages or at least
partially in their estimate.

Please help me to present to the council a request that it be written into our
flood ordinance or as a variance for my property that homes that sustain over
50% of the assessed value in damages that are in the flood plain should be
"required" to be elevated for the safety of the property in future floods and
for the health of the community.

Good Morning,
  Just to keep you informed of happenings in the City....
There have been at least two more break-ins or attempts in Pine Lake.
 
I have just been informed of a burglary at Ridge and Olive about a week ago. The
person broke a window in the back of the house and went in, taking a lap top and
other items. But this time they used the lap top to hack into the home owners
bank account.  
 
Another attempt was this past Thursday, on Dahlia.  Again a rear window was
broken, but this time there was an alarm and the person was scared off without
getting in.
 
PLEASE watch out for suspicious persons around your home and your neighbor's
homes. Report  these to 911. And please let us know what is happening.. If
Neighborhood Watch doesn't know what is happening we can't  alert you and try to
help keep you safe.
 
Thanks,
Faye Ridling and Creg Creech
Neighborhood Watch Co-Chairs
 

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Hi Neighbors,
 Today was the deadline for the Thanksgiving Caring and Sharing requests for
help.( of course if anyone else calls, we won't let them go hungry).  As of now
we have 5 households needing our help. If you would like to make a donation of
food or a monetary donation to help purchase food, please contact me. I will be
purchasing the food and putting together baskets this Sunday.  Also if you want
to help put the baskets together let me know. I could also use boxes to deliver
the food.
 
Thank you,
Faye Ridling
635 Ivy Rd.
404-294-6577

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                               THANKSGIVING
CARING AND SHARING
 
It’s time once again to start collecting food and monetary donations for our
Thanksgiving Caring and Sharing food baskets.
For many years Pine Lake neighbors have been donating food, gift cards and money
to help our neighbors who are having a hard time making ends meet, because of
unemployment, illness or other unavoidable circumstances. The gift cards and
money are used to purchase food and each basket contains enough food the for a
couple of weeks. If you would like to help a neighbor in need, please contact
Faye Ridling @ 404-294-6577. You can drop off donations at my home:  635  Ivy
Rd.
 
If you are in need of help or you know someone who is, please contact me. All
information is kept in strict confidence and no one except me and the person
helping deliver the food baskets, will know who the recipients are. If you refer
someone for help, you will not be told if they are a recipient, unless they tell
you. The deadline for donations and the neighbor referrals is:
November 20, 2009.
 
Thank you in advance for Caring and Sharing,
Faye Ridling

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