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#5858 From: Mary Barnes <marysb@...>
Date: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:23 am
Subject: Re: Re: The Brick Wall
marysb1936
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If there's no stone, then you are dependent on the lair records. You can go to Peterhead and look at them in the Registrar's office (by appointment) or you can check Deceased Online. I have just done a quick check at Deceased Online, and they list both Catherine McDougal buried on 6 May 1900 in "Peterhead Cemetery" which I think means Constitution Street, and Archibald McDougal, buried on 5 May 1905 also in "Peterhead Cemetery". I think this might very well be your Archibald!

Mary

On 22/01/2013, at 1:18 PM, Judy Parrish <parrishjudy@...> wrote:

 

Hi Alex
Sorry to butt in, sometimes when I have a brick wall I look in NZ,  don't know why but a I have
a few seaman end up there.  The following may not be your Archibald!!

There is an Archibald McDougall listed in New Zealand BMD who died in 1917  aged 81,   plus
an Archibald McDougall  buried  in Anderson Bay Cemetery , it lists retired and native of Scotland.
In the same plot is a Thomas Pettigrew a labourer and native of Scotland.
Regards
Judy

 


From: A MacPhee <alexmacphee@...>
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Re: The Brick Wall

 
Thank you so much, this has been such a productive thread for me, and at least I now know where she lies. And I've also had so many new leads to follow. 

Kind regards,
Alex


On 22 January 2013 00:56, Wade Buchan <wsb@...> wrote:
 
Catherine Hay is buried in The Peterhead Constitution Street Cemetery Lair A59 (I will have to check that number, from what I found last night).  No headstone and appears to be a common grave, no other McDougalls.

Regards,
Wade





Mary Barnes





#5859 From: "Wade Buchan" <wsb@...>
Date: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:01 am
Subject: RE: Shipping to Australia
wsbphd
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Hi Marie,

 

Sorry, it is not something I’ve researched before.  But he could easily have left from Peterhead by boat and gone to any number of Ports that sailed to Australia.

 

Regards,

Wade.

 

From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013 1:13 PM
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Peterhead] Shipping to Australia

 

 

Hi Wade,

 

 

Trying to find my Alexander Florence living in Peterhead with his brother’s family in 1841.    He sailed to Tasmania sometime between 1841 and 1845 when he sailed from Tasmania to South Australia 1845.   Cannot find him arriving in Tasmania. 

 

Living in Peterhead where would he board a ship for Australia? 

 

Thank you for any help with information you can give me .

 

Best wishes

Marie


#5860 From: "Marie" <minbalup@...>
Date: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: Shipping to Australia
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Thank you Wade for your email.   Gosh this chap is just so hard to follow his footsteps.   I think he used a broom to clear his footsteps.  
 
Haven’t heard from the Florence family you mention but guess like everyone busy with the job of living.  
 
Thank you for your help still going thro the shipping records would just love to fill in the years between 1841 and 1845 one day perhaps.
 
To visit the Archives at Tasmania would be the idea as I guess there are records there but as yet not on any lists .
 
All the best and again many thanks
Marie 
 
 
f
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Shipping to Australia
 
 

Hi Marie,

Sorry, it is not something I’ve researched before.  But he could easily have left from Peterhead by boat and gone to any number of Ports that sailed to Australia.

Regards,

Wade.

From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013 1:13 PM
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Peterhead] Shipping to Australia

 

Hi Wade,

Trying to find my Alexander Florence living in Peterhead with his brother’s family in 1841.    He sailed to Tasmania sometime between 1841 and 1845 when he sailed from Tasmania to South Australia 1845.   Cannot find him arriving in Tasmania. 

Living in Peterhead where would he board a ship for Australia? 

Thank you for any help with information you can give me .

Best wishes

Marie


#5861 From: colours98@...
Date: Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:58 am
Subject: Re: Shipping to Australia
colours98
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Hi Marie

I couldn't help notice your query.  I have a relative who arrived in Hobart in
1838 who is not on any records except I finally found them in the passenger
lists on Ancestry and they arrived from Canada.
Wish I could help.  You might be able to find them on newspapers.  Also I had a
look at other capital cities but to no avail.
Jenny

--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, "Marie"  wrote:
>
> Hi Wade,
>
>
> Trying to find my Alexander Florence living in Peterhead with his brother’s
family in 1841.    He sailed to Tasmania sometime between 1841 and 1845 when he
sailed from Tasmania to South Australia 1845.   Cannot find him arriving in
Tasmania.
>
> Living in Peterhead where would he board a ship for Australia?
>
> Thank you for any help with information you can give me .
>
> Best wishes
> Marie
>

#5862 From: Mary Barnes <marysb@...>
Date: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:01 am
Subject: Re: Shipping to Australia
marysb1936
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Marie,

I don't know if you've tried contacting the Tasmanian Archives online, but if you haven't it might be worthwhile. I found them extremely helpful when I was searching for info about a seaman uncle who my mother told me died in Hobart in 1908. I confirmed this in the archives, and then sent away for his death certificate, for a small fee. In addition to the certificate, the archivist also found for me (at no extra cost and without me asking), two reports of the events surrounding his death which had appeared in a local newspaper. Very helpful. I was most impressed!

Mary Barnes

On 28/01/2013, at 7:53 AM, Marie <minbalup@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Wade for your email.   Gosh this chap is just so hard to follow his footsteps.   I think he used a broom to clear his footsteps.  
 
Haven’t heard from the Florence family you mention but guess like everyone busy with the job of living.  
 
Thank you for your help still going thro the shipping records would just love to fill in the years between 1841 and 1845 one day perhaps.
 
To visit the Archives at Tasmania would be the idea as I guess there are records there but as yet not on any lists .
 
All the best and again many thanks
Marie 
 
 
f
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Shipping to Australia
 
 

Hi Marie,

Sorry, it is not something I’ve researched before.  But he could easily have left from Peterhead by boat and gone to any number of Ports that sailed to Australia.

Regards,

Wade.

From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013 1:13 PM
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Peterhead] Shipping to Australia

 

Hi Wade,

Trying to find my Alexander Florence living in Peterhead with his brother’s family in 1841.    He sailed to Tasmania sometime between 1841 and 1845 when he sailed from Tasmania to South Australia 1845.   Cannot find him arriving in Tasmania. 

Living in Peterhead where would he board a ship for Australia? 

Thank you for any help with information you can give me .

Best wishes

Marie



Mary Barnes





#5863 From: Gweneth Myers <gwenethmyers@...>
Date: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:46 am
Subject: Re: Shipping to Australia
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G'day Marie
 
There are 2 places I would look, one is www.search.archives.tas.gov.au and then select the Heritage tab (or you can google the website). I really like this site and have had great success in finding wills etc.  I would also check out the newspapers in Tasmania at the time as they advertised people arriving and departing.  I think one is The Mercury and there are others, depending on what city you are looking for.  Hobart and Launceston (former name is George Town) had their own newspapers.   Our National Library Australia allows you to search on line - free.  The site is www.trove.nla.org.au and there are several ways you can search.  You can include all of Australia or you can do it by State and then specific newspapers.  You can also search between certain dates.  However, keep in mind it is a digitised site and sometimes it doesn't pick out the information you are looking for because it searches how the information has been "read" by their scanners which sometimes has no bearing on what is actually in the article. Also my surname is Myers and I had to search both Myers and Meyers - one of the Tasmanian newspapers had 2 different spellings in the one article on several occassions - my husband's grandfather was a champion Rower and featured in the boating results in the sports section. 
 
Cheers
Gwen Myers
Melbourne

--- On Mon, 28/1/13, Mary Barnes <marysb@...> wrote:

From: Mary Barnes <marysb@...>
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Shipping to Australia
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, 28 January, 2013, 4:01 PM

 
Marie,

I don't know if you've tried contacting the Tasmanian Archives online, but if you haven't it might be worthwhile. I found them extremely helpful when I was searching for info about a seaman uncle who my mother told me died in Hobart in 1908. I confirmed this in the archives, and then sent away for his death certificate, for a small fee. In addition to the certificate, the archivist also found for me (at no extra cost and without me asking), two reports of the events surrounding his death which had appeared in a local newspaper. Very helpful. I was most impressed!

Mary Barnes

On 28/01/2013, at 7:53 AM, Marie <minbalup@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Wade for your email.   Gosh this chap is just so hard to follow his footsteps.   I think he used a broom to clear his footsteps.  
 
Haven’t heard from the Florence family you mention but guess like everyone busy with the job of living.  
 
Thank you for your help still going thro the shipping records would just love to fill in the years between 1841 and 1845 one day perhaps.
 
To visit the Archives at Tasmania would be the idea as I guess there are records there but as yet not on any lists .
 
All the best and again many thanks
Marie 
 
 
f
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Shipping to Australia
 
 

Hi Marie,

Sorry, it is not something I’ve researched before.  But he could easily have left from Peterhead by boat and gone to any number of Ports that sailed to Australia.

Regards,

Wade.

From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013 1:13 PM
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Peterhead] Shipping to Australia

 

Hi Wade,

Trying to find my Alexander Florence living in Peterhead with his brother’s family in 1841.    He sailed to Tasmania sometime between 1841 and 1845 when he sailed from Tasmania to South Australia 1845.   Cannot find him arriving in Tasmania. 

Living in Peterhead where would he board a ship for Australia? 

Thank you for any help with information you can give me .

Best wishes

Marie



Mary Barnes





#5864 From: "fatal_acception" <mackin.gen@...>
Date: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:02 pm
Subject: Strachan/May family?
fatal_acception
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I have just started researching my husband's line and have had a lot of luck at
Scotlandspeople site. On one line I have run full speed into the wall though.

I found the marriage for Andrew Buchan Strachan and Sarah Strachan 5 November
1890 in Peterhead. Andrew was 26 years old, Fisherman, residing in Peterhead,
son of William Strachan and Catherine Birnie Ritchie. Sarah was 27, domestic
servant, residing Buchanhaven Peterhead, daughter of Andrew Strachan and Sarah
May.

I had no problem locating the information about Andrew and his family. Sarah's
was born 14 September 1863 in Buchanhaven, Peterhead. Again it lists parents as
Andrew Strachan and Sarah May with a marriage date of 9 October 1862 in
Peterhead.

The problem is that I cannot locate Andrew Strachan and Sarah May's marriage. I
have tried every search variation I can think of and still nothing. I'm new to
researching in Scotland and have no idea if there is any other way of locating
them. I do have them in the census records for 1871 and up, Sarah died 1886-1891
and Andrew was gone from 1901 census.

In 1861 the only Sarah May living in Aberdeenshire was in Buchanhaven. Sarah
May, 20 year old servant in the household of David and Elizabeth Buchan. Andrew
seems to be the son of Andrew Strachan and his wife Mary and was also living in
Buchanhaven.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Rachel

#5865 From: "pauladixon23" <pauladixon23@...>
Date: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Strachan/May family?
pauladixon23
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Hi Rachel,

I have just searched on Scotlands People using the following:

Male Surname: Strachan  (surname variants)
Male Forename: Andrew
Female Surname: May
Female Forename: Sara (not Sarah)
Year range 1862 - 1862
County: Aberdeen

Just 1 match comes up which should be yours. I haven't got any credits otherwise
I'd check it for you. Fingers crossed!

Paula

#5866 From: "mackin.gen@..." <mackin.gen@...>
Date: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Strachan/May family?
fatal_acception
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Thanks! It is them. The strangest thing is I tried the same search and got nothing. It happened to me with a search the other day too.  
 
Rachel
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 1/28/2013 12:20:30 PM
Subject: [Peterhead] Re: Strachan/May family?
 
 



Hi Rachel,

I have just searched on Scotlands People using the following:

Male Surname: Strachan (surname variants)
Male Forename: Andrew
Female Surname: May
Female Forename: Sara (not Sarah)
Year range 1862 - 1862
County: Aberdeen

Just 1 match comes up which should be yours. I haven't got any credits otherwise I'd check it for you. Fingers crossed!

Paula

 

#5867 From: "pauladixon23" <pauladixon23@...>
Date: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: Strachan/May family?
pauladixon23
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Hi again Rachel,

Just checked the 1901 census and found Sarah aged 59 living with 5 of her
children at 5 Harbour Street, Peterhead. She is classified as fishermans widow.
Also I think I've found her in 1891 visiting Thomas Gray in Whinnyfold, Cruden.
She is hiding there age 49 fishermans wife by the name of Sarah May.
At a guess I would say she died in 1916 and now I'll go away and let you carry
on!

Paula

#5868 From: Andy <Andy_anderson@...>
Date: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:44 pm
Subject: Sara May
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Hi Rachel

I can tell you that Sara May was married on 9th October 1862, Peterhead
Husband Andrew 'Boy' Strachan.  Sara May born 15th May 1840, Peterhead

Her Parents were William May & Margaret Buchan
William May born 22 July 1808, Rathen Parish
12 October 1815, Rathen Parish. I also have marriage and death details
for them. (Somewhere) if you also need it.

I am a descendant of Andrew Strachan and Sara May

Kind regards
Andy

#5869 From: Bill Pictman <lost_without_me@...>
Date: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:53 pm
Subject: Davidson Information Scotland to New Jersey 1684/1685
lost_without_me
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Greetings Group,

I'm still trying to see if anyone has any information on James Davidson b. (16??) or his son William Davidson born either 1650 or 1668 that emigrated to New Jersey USA in either 1684 or 1685. James was married to Janet Cheyne and William ended up marrying Margaret Oliphant here in New Jersey. Reports are that there were several William Davidson's who traveled to New Jersey in 1684 or 1685 and that one of them was from Peterhead. I'm also trying to see if any male Peterhead Davidson's would consider Y-DNA testing to try to connect with distant relatives that emigrated to the states.

Cheers,

Bill

#5870 From: Elisabeth Wilson <elisabeth.wilson@...>
Date: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:49 am
Subject: Re: Shipping to Australia
wilsontrek2004
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There are 2 places I would look, one is www.search.archives.tas.gov.au and then select the Heritage tab (or you can google the website). I really like this site and have had great success in finding wills etc.  I would also check out the newspapers in Tasmania at the time as they advertised people arriving and departing.  I think one is The Mercury and there are others, depending on what city you are looking for.  Hobart and Launceston (former name is George Town) had their own newspapers.   Our National Library Australia allows you to search on line - free.  The site is www.trove.nla.org.au and there are several ways you can search.  You can include all of Australia or you can do it by State and then specific newspapers.  You can also search between certain dates.  However, keep in mind it is a digitised site and sometimes it doesn't pick out the information you are looking for because it searches how the information has been "read" by their scanners which sometimes has no bearing on what is actually in the article.

Hi Marie,

Great answer. I often use the Tas archives and have worked there at times. I checked the online arrivals index and the convicts index when you first posted. But the indexes are not 100% complete - either because the occasional ship just didn't get done (I've found an example myself a few years ago) or because steerage passengers weren't listed.

Gwen is right in saying that the staff can be very helpful if you send a request. However, more and more they are being squeezed for time and it may depend who answers your query. There is an CD Rom index of shipping into and out of Launceston which I will check for you, and also a couple of card indexes which are worth a look. The archives are in the state library building just over the road from where I work so it will only take a couple of minutes.

One correction - the former name for Launceston is not George Town, which is a separate place at the mouth of the Tamar River.

Re newspapers - look at the dates of the newspapers on Trove. The Mercury has been going since about 1854, so too late for any mention of Alexander Florence - go for the Hobart Town Gazette etc.

Best wishes,
Elisabeth

Elisabeth Wilson
Lenah Valley, Tasmania
researching GORDON (Peterhead) GIBB (Peterhead) YOUNG (Slains/Cruden) SPENCE(Peterhead) PAUL (Peterhead?) MURRISON (Peterhead) CRAIG (Strichen) DAVIDSON (Strichen)


#5871 From: "JaniceS" <darmorenus@...>
Date: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:46 pm
Subject: Reid: John 1883-1966 (immigrant to America),son of Joseph & Elisa Sheriffs Reid
darmorenus
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Greetings from the US: I am new to Scottish research. I appreciate all the
informative postings about the Reids (esp. by Alison and Charlotte!)I can add
data about one native-born Peterhead man:John Reid. John was born in 1883 to
Joseph and Elisa (Sheriffs)Reid. He left Peterhead in 1903, shortly after his
20th birthday. Traveled on the ship Bavarian from Liverpool to Montreal, Quebec,
Canada. Profession: coachman.By 1909 John moved from Canada to Brighton
(Rochester area) of Monroe County, New York, USA. He married Amy Clarissa
Skelding and had two daughters. Profession: chauffeur.  The family lived in
Monroe County until John's death in December 1966.

I need help with two questions: (1)Where are John's parents--Joseph and Elisa
Sheriffs Reids--buried in Peterhead?  Joseph's parents (Robert and Jane Ogston)
are buried in St. Peter's Churchyard (according to a post by Alison).  Can
anyone verify whether Joseph(b 1842-d 1911?) and wife Eliza Sheriffs (1851-1894)
are also buried in this cemetery? (2) John Reid and father Joseph lived in
Peterhead 1890-1901 at a hotel/boardinghouse run by James and Eliza Hay Reid at
25 Broad Place.  Does anyone know of a book that might discuss
businesses/homes/life/people on Broad St. in the mid 1850-1900 era in Peterhead?
Thanks, JaniceS

#5872 From: Elisabeth Wilson <elisabeth.wilson@...>
Date: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:14 pm
Subject: Re: Shipping to Australia
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Hi Marie,

I did go tot he archives yesterday for you but to my dismay some of
the CD ROMs which used to be loaded onto the public search computers
are no longer there. Apparently when they installed new computers
they did not match with the old software. They still have the CDs in
the stacks so I'm going to request the Launceston index and see if
they have a computer I can view it on.

However, I can see on Trove (digitised newspapers) where A Florence
departs for Adelaide, but not an arrival. I only looked from 1841 to
1845 though.

He is not in the general card index, which is not that significant,
but it means he didn't get a land grant etc.

Could he have been in the military forces? Or a seaman? They are not
usually listed as arrivals if they just decided to stay and not sail home.

There was a Thomas Florence who came out as a surveyor in 1818 - see
the Wayn index, the second URL below - and I also saw a James
Florence and family in the general card index, emigrating in 1913
from Aberdeen.

TO anyone else who is looking for people who came to Tasmania - there
are several good indexes on the web
(http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/tasmaniasheritage/search/name-indexes/nameindexes
and
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=AE807)
but if you get stuck don't hesitate to ask - I have worked at the
archives and am fairly familiar with their holdings.

Regards,
Elisabeth

Elisabeth Wilson
Lenah Valley, Tasmania
researching GORDON (Peterhead) GIBB (Peterhead) YOUNG (Slains/Cruden)
SPENCE(Peterhead) PAUL (Peterhead?) MURRISON (Peterhead) CRAIG
(Strichen) DAVIDSON (Strichen)

#5873 From: "Marie" <minbalup@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:54 am
Subject: Re: Shipping to Australia
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Hi Elizabeth,
 
Many thanks for the following email.    Yes that is my chap 1845 but really wanted to find him arriving however grateful to find the 1845 entry.   Interesting chap and is my gtgtgrandfather may have missed a gt there.
 
I appreciate your kindness looking  at the records.  No he wasn’t a seaman but I am wondering as he was living in Peterhead Scotland if this might have a bearing on things.
I will keep looking one of these days I will find something.
You would think the LDS would have kepted a couple of old computers up and running so to use the CD’s.     I now wonder if the British Islaes Vital Records etc will work as my old computer died will this new updated one accept the above.
Very grateful  if you manage to have a look at the CD provided it can be worked.
 
Many thanks
Marie
 
 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Shipping to Australia
 
 

Hi Marie,

I did go tot he archives yesterday for you but to my dismay some of
the CD ROMs which used to be loaded onto the public search computers
are no longer there. Apparently when they installed new computers
they did not match with the old software. They still have the CDs in
the stacks so I'm going to request the Launceston index and see if
they have a computer I can view it on.

However, I can see on Trove (digitised newspapers) where A Florence
departs for Adelaide, but not an arrival. I only looked from 1841 to
1845 though.

He is not in the general card index, which is not that significant,
but it means he didn't get a land grant etc.

Could he have been in the military forces? Or a seaman? They are not
usually listed as arrivals if they just decided to stay and not sail home.

There was a Thomas Florence who came out as a surveyor in 1818 - see
the Wayn index, the second URL below - and I also saw a James
Florence and family in the general card index, emigrating in 1913
from Aberdeen.

TO anyone else who is looking for people who came to Tasmania - there
are several good indexes on the web
(http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/tasmaniasheritage/search/name-indexes/nameindexes
and
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=AE807)
but if you get stuck don't hesitate to ask - I have worked at the
archives and am fairly familiar with their holdings.

Regards,
Elisabeth

Elisabeth Wilson
Lenah Valley, Tasmania
researching GORDON (Peterhead) GIBB (Peterhead) YOUNG (Slains/Cruden)
SPENCE(Peterhead) PAUL (Peterhead?) MURRISON (Peterhead) CRAIG
(Strichen) DAVIDSON (Strichen)


#5876 From: "ogstonfamilyresearcher" <familyhunter57@...>
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2013 10:06 pm
Subject: Peterhead Men employed by the Hudson Bay Company
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#5877 From: "Peter Hooper" <peterh@...>
Date: Sun Feb 3, 2013 2:46 am
Subject: Re: Hey WARNING
petergph
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Do NOT click on Margaret Masson’s message.

 

There seems to be a flood of these emails at the moment which are infecting computers and then forwarding the message to all in the contacts file. 

 

Once infected, a full clean of the computer is required.  For many this will be a tiresome chore.  For those not technological savvy it may mean professional assistance = money.

 

Many, but no means all, can easily be identified by the subject line “Hey”.  I’m sure this will soon be changed to something else though. The common theme with the current flood is that they simply contain a link.  If you receive a message like that don’t click. If it’s from a name you recognise, it will simply mean that their computer is infected.

 

A general rule of thumb is to be very very VERY careful about opening any link emailed by anyone.

 

Sorry to bore those who are aware of the problem, but it becoming an ever increasing problem at present.

 

Peter Hooper

 

 


#5878 From: Betty Miles <bettymiles@...>
Date: Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:54 pm
Subject: Stocks/Farquharson
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I am researching the family of Samuel STOCKS who married Margaret FARQUHARSON  in Peterhead in 1819. Samuel was born in England; I would be interested to know what would have brought him to peterhead at that time. At the birth of one of his children he is stated to be a quarrier.

#5879 From: Hazel Stevenson <riverugie@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:00 am
Subject: Mary Mackenzie
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To Gwyneth,

Here's some details about Mary Mackenzie.

She was born about 1828 in Peterhead to John McKenzie, master cooper, b abt 1790 in Ullapool and Isabella, born about 1803 Aberdeen.   She married Alexander Watt, a seaman, born Rosehearty, Pitsligo 26/10/1821.  They had an Episcopalian marriage in Peterhead on 17/9/1849.

They had one boy and 3 girls who died before 1855, including Helen (12/6/1852).  Son Alexander was born abt 18 July 1855 at Longate, Peterhead.

Alexander Watt - Details from Seaman's Ticket 153016.  5ft 7inches tall.  Hair brown, complexion ruddy, eyes hazel.  In 1841 he was a steward.  He was run aground in New York 24/4/47.

Hope this is helpful.  (I'm not related but am interested in all early Watts to see if I can find more links.)

Hazel

#5880 From: Gweneth Myers <gwenethmyers@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: Mary Mackenzie
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Hello Hazel,
Thank you for the information especially on the Watt line.  Mary was the sister of Peter McKenzie and we only found out recently that she also came out to Australia.  She was living in Carlton, Victoria.  We found her on the 1851 census living with her parents in Scotland while her husband was at sea so imagine our surprise when she turned up here.  I have seen lots of information on the Watt line but did not know of the family connection until a few months ago so never really took much notice.
 
Peter McKenzie was my husband's great grandfather.  I have Mary's birth certificate in 1828, her mother was Isabell Grant married to John McKenzie.  Peter was born as Patrick in 1832 but married as Peter - apparently these names are often switched. A lady at Scotlandspeople told me it wasn't unusual for Patrick to become Peter. His family also lived in Carlton, quite close to where Mary Watt lived. Peter married Ann Campbell in Peterhead in 1852 and they had 3 children in Scotland.
 
The seaman's ticket is great - I hadn't looked into it before.  It is wonderful to have a description of Alexander.  I was going to look for seaman's tickets in Ann Campbell's family as they were white fishers from Findochty.  Your information has been very helpful.
 
Cheers
Gwen
(Melbourne)
 


--- On Tue, 12/2/13, Hazel Stevenson <riverugie@...> wrote:

From: Hazel Stevenson <riverugie@...>
Subject: [Peterhead] Mary Mackenzie
To: "peterhead@yahoogroups.com" <peterhead@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Tuesday, 12 February, 2013, 9:00 PM

 
To Gwyneth,

Here's some details about Mary Mackenzie.

She was born about 1828 in Peterhead to John McKenzie, master cooper, b abt 1790 in Ullapool and Isabella, born about 1803 Aberdeen.   She married Alexander Watt, a seaman, born Rosehearty, Pitsligo 26/10/1821.  They had an Episcopalian marriage in Peterhead on 17/9/1849.

They had one boy and 3 girls who died before 1855, including Helen (12/6/1852).  Son Alexander was born abt 18 July 1855 at Longate, Peterhead.

Alexander Watt - Details from Seaman's Ticket 153016.  5ft 7inches tall.  Hair brown, complexion ruddy, eyes hazel.  In 1841 he was a steward.  He was run aground in New York 24/4/47.

Hope this is helpful.  (I'm not related but am interested in all early Watts to see if I can find more links.)

Hazel

#5881 From: Hazel Stevenson <riverugie@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: Mary Mackenzie
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Thanks Gwen - I forgot to add that the information that Alexander could write was also on the seaman's ticket, which I saw in Kew, London, when looking for my own line of Watts.  Do you know who Alexander's parents were?   Hazel



From: Gweneth Myers <gwenethmyers@...>
To: "peterhead@yahoogroups.com" <peterhead@yahoogroups.com>; Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 12:28
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Mary Mackenzie

 
Hello Hazel,
Thank you for the information especially on the Watt line.  Mary was the sister of Peter McKenzie and we only found out recently that she also came out to Australia.  She was living in Carlton, Victoria.  We found her on the 1851 census living with her parents in Scotland while her husband was at sea so imagine our surprise when she turned up here.  I have seen lots of information on the Watt line but did not know of the family connection until a few months ago so never really took much notice.
 
Peter McKenzie was my husband's great grandfather.  I have Mary's birth certificate in 1828, her mother was Isabell Grant married to John McKenzie.  Peter was born as Patrick in 1832 but married as Peter - apparently these names are often switched. A lady at Scotlandspeople told me it wasn't unusual for Patrick to become Peter. His family also lived in Carlton, quite close to where Mary Watt lived. Peter married Ann Campbell in Peterhead in 1852 and they had 3 children in Scotland.
 
The seaman's ticket is great - I hadn't looked into it before.  It is wonderful to have a description of Alexander.  I was going to look for seaman's tickets in Ann Campbell's family as they were white fishers from Findochty.  Your information has been very helpful.
 
Cheers
Gwen
(Melbourne)
 


--- On Tue, 12/2/13, Hazel Stevenson <riverugie@...> wrote:

From: Hazel Stevenson <riverugie@...>
Subject: [Peterhead] Mary Mackenzie
To: "peterhead@yahoogroups.com" <peterhead@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Tuesday, 12 February, 2013, 9:00 PM

 
To Gwyneth,

Here's some details about Mary Mackenzie.

She was born about 1828 in Peterhead to John McKenzie, master cooper, b abt 1790 in Ullapool and Isabella, born about 1803 Aberdeen.   She married Alexander Watt, a seaman, born Rosehearty, Pitsligo 26/10/1821.  They had an Episcopalian marriage in Peterhead on 17/9/1849.

They had one boy and 3 girls who died before 1855, including Helen (12/6/1852).  Son Alexander was born abt 18 July 1855 at Longate, Peterhead.

Alexander Watt - Details from Seaman's Ticket 153016.  5ft 7inches tall.  Hair brown, complexion ruddy, eyes hazel.  In 1841 he was a steward.  He was run aground in New York 24/4/47.

Hope this is helpful.  (I'm not related but am interested in all early Watts to see if I can find more links.)

Hazel



#5882 From: Gweneth Myers <gwenethmyers@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: Mary Mackenzie
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No I don't, Hazel, I didn't even know his christian name up until a few weeks ago when I discovered Mary was in Australia.

--- On Wed, 13/2/13, Hazel Stevenson <riverugie@...> wrote:

From: Hazel Stevenson <riverugie@...>
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Mary Mackenzie
To: "Peterhead@yahoogroups.com" <Peterhead@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Wednesday, 13 February, 2013, 12:09 AM

 
Thanks Gwen - I forgot to add that the information that Alexander could write was also on the seaman's ticket, which I saw in Kew, London, when looking for my own line of Watts.  Do you know who Alexander's parents were?   Hazel



From: Gweneth Myers <gwenethmyers@...>
To: "peterhead@yahoogroups.com" <peterhead@yahoogroups.com>; Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 12:28
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Mary Mackenzie

 
Hello Hazel,
Thank you for the information especially on the Watt line.  Mary was the sister of Peter McKenzie and we only found out recently that she also came out to Australia.  She was living in Carlton, Victoria.  We found her on the 1851 census living with her parents in Scotland while her husband was at sea so imagine our surprise when she turned up here.  I have seen lots of information on the Watt line but did not know of the family connection until a few months ago so never really took much notice.
 
Peter McKenzie was my husband's great grandfather.  I have Mary's birth certificate in 1828, her mother was Isabell Grant married to John McKenzie.  Peter was born as Patrick in 1832 but married as Peter - apparently these names are often switched. A lady at Scotlandspeople told me it wasn't unusual for Patrick to become Peter. His family also lived in Carlton, quite close to where Mary Watt lived. Peter married Ann Campbell in Peterhead in 1852 and they had 3 children in Scotland.
 
The seaman's ticket is great - I hadn't looked into it before.  It is wonderful to have a description of Alexander.  I was going to look for seaman's tickets in Ann Campbell's family as they were white fishers from Findochty.  Your information has been very helpful.
 
Cheers
Gwen
(Melbourne)
 


--- On Tue, 12/2/13, Hazel Stevenson <riverugie@...> wrote:

From: Hazel Stevenson <riverugie@...>
Subject: [Peterhead] Mary Mackenzie
To: "peterhead@yahoogroups.com" <peterhead@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Tuesday, 12 February, 2013, 9:00 PM

 
To Gwyneth,

Here's some details about Mary Mackenzie.

She was born about 1828 in Peterhead to John McKenzie, master cooper, b abt 1790 in Ullapool and Isabella, born about 1803 Aberdeen.   She married Alexander Watt, a seaman, born Rosehearty, Pitsligo 26/10/1821.  They had an Episcopalian marriage in Peterhead on 17/9/1849.

They had one boy and 3 girls who died before 1855, including Helen (12/6/1852).  Son Alexander was born abt 18 July 1855 at Longate, Peterhead.

Alexander Watt - Details from Seaman's Ticket 153016.  5ft 7inches tall.  Hair brown, complexion ruddy, eyes hazel.  In 1841 he was a steward.  He was run aground in New York 24/4/47.

Hope this is helpful.  (I'm not related but am interested in all early Watts to see if I can find more links.)

Hazel



#5883 From: Betty Miles <bettymiles@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:18 pm
Subject: Innes/Mckenzie
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I am looking for information about two young boys buried in the lairs of my STOCKS and FARQUHARSON ancestors in St. Peter's Cemetery. As far as I know they have no connection to our family. They are James INNES, died 17 January 1848, aged 4 months and Daniel McKENZIE, died 3 February 1852, aged 1 year. I am curious as to why they would be buried there, as the lairs were being used for family members during that time.
 
Betty
 

#5884 From: "flss1" <flss1@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: Innes/Mckenzie
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My first thought was that perhaps these babies were illegitimate.Often they
would be known by the father's surname even if their parents weren't
married.Would there have been any females of childbearing age in the Stocks or
Farquharson families that could've been potential mothers?

--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, Betty Miles  wrote:
>
> I am looking for information about two young boys buried in the lairs of my
STOCKS and FARQUHARSON ancestors in St. Peter's Cemetery. As far as I know they
have no connection to our family. They are James INNES, died 17 January 1848,
aged 4 months and Daniel McKENZIE, died 3 February 1852, aged 1 year. I am
curious as to why they would be buried there, as the lairs were being used for
family members during that time.
>
> Betty
>

#5885 From: Gweneth Myers <gwenethmyers@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:43 pm
Subject: Re: Innes/Mckenzie
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G'day Betty,
My understanding is the Scots were very economical and thrifty when it came to lairs.  They used all available space even if sometimes the dead person had no connection to others in the lair.  I have a husband and wife buried together in Brechin Cathedral but there are others in the same lair and absolutely no connection to them. Has anyone else come across this when researching who is in the lair?
Cheers
Gweneth
Melbourne.

--- On Wed, 13/2/13, Betty Miles <bettymiles@...> wrote:

From: Betty Miles <bettymiles@...>
Subject: [Peterhead] Innes/Mckenzie
To: "Peterhead list" <peterhead@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Wednesday, 13 February, 2013, 7:18 AM

 
I am looking for information about two young boys buried in the lairs of my STOCKS and FARQUHARSON ancestors in St. Peter's Cemetery. As far as I know they have no connection to our family. They are James INNES, died 17 January 1848, aged 4 months and Daniel McKENZIE, died 3 February 1852, aged 1 year. I am curious as to why they would be buried there, as the lairs were being used for family members during that time.
 
Betty
 

#5886 From: "William Leslie" <w.leslie@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:50 pm
Subject: RE: Innes/Mckenzie
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There is another possibility. My grandmother in Peterhead adopted children. They were either children of friends or distant relatives. One of these, whose name I was unable to discover died shortly after coming to live with my grandmother. The only name I could get from relatives who were quite young at the time was, The Girl from the North.

William Leslie

 

From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gweneth Myers
Sent: February 12, 2013 4:43 PM
To: Peterhead list; Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Innes/Mckenzie

 

 

G'day Betty,

My understanding is the Scots were very economical and thrifty when it came to lairs.  They used all available space even if sometimes the dead person had no connection to others in the lair.  I have a husband and wife buried together in Brechin Cathedral but there are others in the same lair and absolutely no connection to them. Has anyone else come across this when researching who is in the lair?

Cheers

Gweneth

Melbourne.

--- On Wed, 13/2/13, Betty Miles <bettymiles@...> wrote:


From: Betty Miles <bettymiles@...>
Subject: [Peterhead] Innes/Mckenzie
To: "Peterhead list" <peterhead@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Wednesday, 13 February, 2013, 7:18 AM

 

I am looking for information about two young boys buried in the lairs of my STOCKS and FARQUHARSON ancestors in St. Peter's Cemetery. As far as I know they have no connection to our family. They are James INNES, died 17 January 1848, aged 4 months and Daniel McKENZIE, died 3 February 1852, aged 1 year. I am curious as to why they would be buried there, as the lairs were being used for family members during that time.

 

Betty

 


#5887 From: Betty Miles <bettymiles@...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:04 am
Subject: Re: Innes/Mckenzie
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Thank you to all for your thoughts on these children. I do know that Margaret Stocks ran a boarding house at about that time and I wondered if the parents may have been living there. Perhaps we'll never know.
Betty
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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Innes/Mckenzie

 

G'day Betty,
My understanding is the Scots were very economical and thrifty when it came to lairs.  They used all available space even if sometimes the dead person had no connection to others in the lair.  I have a husband and wife buried together in Brechin Cathedral but there are others in the same lair and absolutely no connection to them. Has anyone else come across this when researching who is in the lair?
Cheers
Gweneth
Melbourne.

--- On Wed, 13/2/13, Betty Miles <bettymiles@...> wrote:

From: Betty Miles <bettymiles@...>
Subject: [Peterhead] Innes/Mckenzie
To: "Peterhead list" <peterhead@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Wednesday, 13 February, 2013, 7:18 AM

 
I am looking for information about two young boys buried in the lairs of my STOCKS and FARQUHARSON ancestors in St. Peter's Cemetery. As far as I know they have no connection to our family. They are James INNES, died 17 January 1848, aged 4 months and Daniel McKENZIE, died 3 February 1852, aged 1 year. I am curious as to why they would be buried there, as the lairs were being used for family members during that time.
 
Betty
 


#5888 From: "ogstonfamilyresearcher" <familyhunter57@...>
Date: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:31 pm
Subject: Captain Craig of Perseverance drowned Feb 29 1876
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I am hoping that some kind soul can help me with this.  I have just been able to
access the old newspapers and found this article.

Ship Captain Drowned off Peterhead
The Peterhead vessel Perseverance has arrived at that port, coal laden from 
Sunderland, and reports that on the 29th ult., when 20 miles off Peterhead the
master Craig got entangled in the ropes, was thrown overboard and owing to the
swell could not be rescued.  He has left a widow and four children.
Glasgow Herald Friday March 3 1876

Does anyone know which Captain Craig this was?

Many thanks,
Susan

#5889 From: "tullynessleturnip" <tullynessleturnip@...>
Date: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:20 pm
Subject: The Morrisons of New Deer
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Hullo! I'm new to this forum and hope that New Deer comes within the realms of
Peterhead - does it, or is there a group for New Deer? I've been researching my
family tree for 7 years now, and wonder if anyone here is familiar with these
names?:

Robert Scott Morrison b.1847, Mary Morrison b.1850, Elizabeth Morrison b.1853,
James Morrison b.1855, John Morrison b.1857, Alexander Morrison b.1860 - these
were all born New Deer 'Ironside' (apart from Alexander who was born at
Branhill/Brownhill New Deer). They were the children of John Morrison (crofter,
supposedly from Boyndie) + Mary Scott born around 1822 Fraserburgh.

John Morrison (crofter)'s parents are William Morrison + Jessie Smith - anyone
know anything about these? Mary Scott's parents were Robert Scott + Elizabeth
Pirie  -  in the 1841 census they appear to be living at 'Land of Ironside', New
Deer, Robert is 60 which makes his birth around 1780 - does anyone know anything
about these?

  It's possible that John Morrison (crofter) had a daughter with Elizabeth
MacLeod, called Isabella Morrison b.1836. Isabella married a Charles Birnie and
they had a daughter called Mary-Ann Birnie. M-AB would this be the neice of
Alexander Morrison b.1860, and a M-AB is recorded as the informant on AM's death
certificate of 1932 (he died in New Deer). M-AB was registered as living at
'Easter Melrose' which is a farm in Gamrie/Gardenstown.

  Mary Morrison b.1850 had one child before she was married, an Alexander Brown
Morrison b.1880. he then married Alexander Melvin and had 4 children, Robert
Morrison Melvin b.1888, Maggie Melvin b.1889, Mary Jane Melvin b.1891, John
Melvin b.1893.

  Robert Scott Morrison b.1847 studied 1879-86 at Aberdeen University for his
medical degree and became the doctor for Methlick, dying in 1909. He had 7
children (his wife was Alice Coutts b.1863, her father was from Tullynessle,
Alford): Edith Jane Morrison b.1893, John Alexander Morrison b.1894, Robert
James Morrison b.1896, Mary Scott Morrison b.1898, George Gibb Morrison (died in
infancy), William Grant Morrison b.1902, Alice Morrison b.1905 (d.1935)  -  all
born in Methlick apart from Edith (born Aberdeen).

  I'd appreciate any info concerning these, my ancestors; I'm a great-grandson of
Robert Scott Morrison and can be found at ross.turner@...
  I'm also interested in finding living relations, for instance,  believe there
are Melvins living in Canada.

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