Hi Roy,

Thank you for the welcome!

My apologies for not being more clear with the timing.

I know that Helen Jane Cordiner was born in 1874 and that my Great Grandfather
was there durring WW1.

Christie


--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, "Henderson, Roy" <roy.henderson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Christie and welcome to the group!
>
>
>
> Perhaps I am the only one who is confused, but could you clarify whether or
not you mean WW1 or WW2 and give some approximate dates for the various events?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Roy
>
>
>
> From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of lovescreationnursery
> Sent: 29 September 2009 01:00
> To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Peterhead] Hello
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi All
>
> My name is Christie Creamore and I live in B.C. Canada. I have been interested
in the family history for years and have been looking into various branches. I
came across your group in my searches and decided to join. Not sure that much
can be added but I am interested in general knowledge of the area and times as
well.
>
> I descend from the Cordiner family
>
> My great grandfather met a Helen Stephen Robertson while stationed there
during the war. They married and had a child (grandfathers sister) Helen died
about a year after the birth. It was arranged that my great grandfather marry
Helen's cousin, Andrewina Masson who's mother was Helen Jane Cordiner. At the
end of the war my grandfather came back to B.C. with his fiancée Andrewina, his
daughter Dorothy, his mother in law Helen Jane and sister in law Nellie. Mt
great grandfather and Andrewina had three children of their own including my
grandfather.
>
> Helen Jane has a quite a reputation in the family. It is believed that she
left her husband to come over to Canada but we have never been able to find
anything to support this. She did re-marry once here in Canada.
>
> If I could get some information on the marriage of Helen Jane Cordiner to
Andrew Masson (is listed as Dyker Masson on another document) I would be
thrilled.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Christie
>
>
>
> ===============================
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Hi Steve,

WOW!  That is awesome!  Any chance there is any further records on Andrew? 
Perhaps his death? Or mention of divorce?  I know that Helen Jane was living
here in Canada without him by the end of WW1 and am curous to find out if the
rumor in the family is true.

Amazing, I anticipated this group would be able to give me some of the color
around what life was like back then in the area, not get me additional dates on
my connections.

Thank you soooo much!

Christie



--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Hutchison <sjhutchison@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Christie,
>
> Scotlands People have a marriage record (185/00 0003) for Andrew MASSON and
> Helen Jane CORDINER in Cruden dated 1899.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
> 2009/9/29 Henderson, Roy <roy.henderson@...>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Christie and welcome to the group!
> >
> > Perhaps I am the only one who is confused, but could you clarify whether or
> > not you mean WW1 or WW2 and give some approximate dates for the various
> > events?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> > Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > lovescreationnursery
> > Sent: 29 September 2009 01:00
> > To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Peterhead] Hello
> >
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > My name is Christie Creamore and I live in B.C. Canada. I have been
> > interested in the family history for years and have been looking into
> > various branches. I came across your group in my searches and decided to
> > join. Not sure that much can be added but I am interested in general
> > knowledge of the area and times as well.
> >
> > I descend from the Cordiner family
> >
> > My great grandfather met a Helen Stephen Robertson while stationed there
> > during the war. They married and had a child (grandfathers sister) Helen
> > died about a year after the birth. It was arranged that my great grandfather
> > marry Helen's cousin, Andrewina Masson who's mother was Helen Jane Cordiner.
> > At the end of the war my grandfather came back to B.C. with his fiancée
> > Andrewina, his daughter Dorothy, his mother in law Helen Jane and sister in
> > law Nellie. Mt great grandfather and Andrewina had three children of their
> > own including my grandfather.
> >
> > Helen Jane has a quite a reputation in the family. It is believed that she
> > left her husband to come over to Canada but we have never been able to find
> > anything to support this. She did re-marry once here in Canada.
> >
> > If I could get some information on the marriage of Helen Jane Cordiner to
> > Andrew Masson (is listed as Dyker Masson on another document) I would be
> > thrilled.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Christie
> >
> > ===============================
> > CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION
> >
> > The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and
> > protected from disclosure.
> > This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein.
> > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or
> > disclose this communication to others.
> > Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete
> > it from your system.
> > The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or
> > liability for the unauthorized use,
> > or the consequences of any unauthorized use, of this communication or
> > message.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

2009/9/29 Christie Creamore (lovescreationnursery) <
lovescreationnursery@...> wrote

<snipped>
>
> I descend from the Cordiner family
>
> My great grandfather met a Helen Stephen Robertson while stationed there
> during the war.  They married and had a child (grandfathers sister) Helen
> died about a year after the birth.   It was arranged that my great
> grandfather marry Helen's cousin, Andrewina Masson who's mother was Helen
> Jane Cordiner.
>


> Helen Jane has a quite a reputation in the family.  It is believed that she
> left her husband to come over to Canada but we have never been able to find
> anything to support this.  She did re-marry once here in Canada.
>
> If I could get some information on the marriage of Helen Jane Cordiner to
> Andrew Masson (is listed as Dyker Masson on another document) I would be
> thrilled.
>
_________________________________________________

Hi Christie

In case you don't have it, I thought you might like the 1881 Census entry
for Helen Jean CORDINER [Jane & Jean are synonymous]

Jas Stephens Buildings H,  Peterhead, Aberdeen, Scotland

Peter CORDINER    M    29     M    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
     Rel:    Head       Occ:    Fisherman
Mary CORDINER    M     29     F    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
     Rel:    Wife
Helen Jean CORDINER    6     F    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
     Rel:    Dau         Occ:    Scholar
Peter CORDINER              2     M    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
     Rel:    Son
Janet McIntosh CORDINER  9m    F    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
     Rel:    Dau
Janet STEPHEN      U     18     F    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
     Rel:    Serv        Occ:    Gen Serv

The place of birth for each is given as "Bdm, Aberdeen" which means nothing
to me.  The IGI locates these births in Peterhead which is sometimes shown
as "Phd", so I suspect "Bdm" is a transcription error [which occurs all over
these records on the 1881 CDs].

--
Best wishes

Ray

**********************************************************
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Forenames website:                www.whatsinaname.net
Preferred Email address:         ray@...
Hints for Scotland's People at   http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP
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--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, Ray Hennessy <ray@...> wrote:
>
> 2009/9/29 Christie Creamore (lovescreationnursery) <
> lovescreationnursery@...> wrote
>
> <snipped>
Bdm is for Bodham which Helen gives as her place of birth in 1901. She is living
at Nigg with Andrewina and Peter - wife of a Trawler Fisherman.

Christie - You can view these records at Scotlands People. A look at the
marriage entry may also show if they were divorced.
You can get 10 free credits for SP if you sign up to Ancestral Scotland.

Regards,
Annette
>
> Hi Christie
>
> In case you don't have it, I thought you might like the 1881 Census entry
> for Helen Jean CORDINER [Jane & Jean are synonymous]
>
> Jas Stephens Buildings H,  Peterhead, Aberdeen, Scotland
>
> Peter CORDINER    M    29     M    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
>     Rel:    Head       Occ:    Fisherman
> Mary CORDINER    M     29     F    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
>     Rel:    Wife
> Helen Jean CORDINER    6     F    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
>     Rel:    Dau         Occ:    Scholar
> Peter CORDINER              2     M    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
>     Rel:    Son
> Janet McIntosh CORDINER  9m    F    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
>     Rel:    Dau
> Janet STEPHEN      U     18     F    Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
>     Rel:    Serv        Occ:    Gen Serv
>
> The place of birth for each is given as "Bdm, Aberdeen" which means nothing
> to me.  The IGI locates these births in Peterhead which is sometimes shown
> as "Phd", so I suspect "Bdm" is a transcription error [which occurs all over
> these records on the 1881 CDs].
>
> --
> Best wishes
>
> Ray
>
> **********************************************************
> From                                      Ray Hennessy
> Forenames website:                www.whatsinaname.net
> Preferred Email address:         ray@...
> Hints for Scotland's People at   http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP
> **********************************************************
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi

Ray & Christie - the "Bdm" would have been short for Boddam - village couple of
miles south of Peterhead on coast.  Phd has been local short cut for writing
Peterhead since time began - even headstones often have Phd on them rather than
Peterhead.

Christie

Marriage certificate which Steve referred to is available for you to check out,
for a small fee, at the Scotland's People website www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk  
If the couple were divorced then stamp to show this will be on left side of
marriage certificate.  Other records which you queried may also be available
there.  Scotland's people also have original copies of census returns which you
can have a look at for the family.

Hope this helps.

Alison




________________________________
From: Ray Hennessy
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 2 October, 2009 12:34:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Hello

 
2009/9/29 Christie Creamore wrote

<snipped>
>
> I descend from the Cordiner family
>
> My great grandfather met a Helen Stephen Robertson while stationed there
> during the war. They married and had a child (grandfathers sister) Helen
> died about a year after the birth. It was arranged that my great
> grandfather marry Helen's cousin, Andrewina Masson who's mother was Helen
> Jane Cordiner.
>

> Helen Jane has a quite a reputation in the family. It is believed that she
> left her husband to come over to Canada but we have never been able to find
> anything to support this. She did re-marry once here in Canada.
>
> If I could get some information on the marriage of Helen Jane Cordiner to
> Andrew Masson (is listed as Dyker Masson on another document) I would be
> thrilled.
>
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

Hi Christie

In case you don't have it, I thought you might like the 1881 Census entry
for Helen Jean CORDINER [Jane & Jean are synonymous]

Jas Stephens Buildings H, Peterhead, Aberdeen, Scotland

Peter CORDINER M 29 M Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Head Occ: Fisherman
Mary CORDINER M 29 F Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Helen Jean CORDINER 6 F Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar
Peter CORDINER 2 M Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Son
Janet McIntosh CORDINER 9m F Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Janet STEPHEN U 18 F Bdm, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Serv Occ: Gen Serv

The place of birth for each is given as "Bdm, Aberdeen" which means nothing
to me. The IGI locates these births in Peterhead which is sometimes shown
as "Phd", so I suspect "Bdm" is a transcription error [which occurs all over
these records on the 1881 CDs].

--
Best wishes

Ray

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I wonder if any of the members of this group would be interested in this?

On Thursday, 8th October the Family History Society of Buchan is holding its
first open meeting outside Peterhead when it goes to the Saltoun Chambers in
Fraserburgh.

The meeting starts at 7pm, with two speakers, Rita Gordon and Shirley Dickie. 
Together they will be exploring the records that are available locally for the
family history researcher, from old parish records through statutory
registration to other archived material such as kirk session records and school
logs.

For anyone starting out to trace their roots this is an invaluable guide to what
is out there to be discovered, and for those who are more experienced it is
useful in highlighting sources which may have been overlooked.

As is usual the talk is followed by a question and answer session then a cuppa
and time to chat.

Everyone is welcome to attend.

Anne

Anne,

For those of us who live far away, would it be possible to have
someone take notes at the meeting, and publish an edited version later
in the Family History Society of Buchan's Newsletter? Many people
would be interested in finding out more about what records are
available.

Mary


Mary Barnes
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My Grandmother was Frances Hay McLeod born about 1885 in Scotland.
  She always told us she had been born at Hay Castle in Peterhead. She said she
was named Hay after Lord Hay.??

  The only records i can find is the family living in Cruden,
  Aberdeenshire.Resided at 33 Main St in 1901.

  Are their still McLeods in that area.?

  Aside to Peter Buchan.
Her second husband was a John Buchan, her childhood sweetheart.

The family are on 1891 census
 
 
Thomas 1849 Cruden, Isabella 1853 Fraserburgh, Donald 1871 Cruden, Jessie 1881
Cruden, John 1879 Cruden. Thomas is a shepherd and the address is 1 The Terrace.
Also Lizzie Thomson born 1879 Cruden and Helen Thomson 1882 Cruden and  Jane
Thomson 1886 Cruden all listed as step daughters
 
 
Maureen

--- On Fri, 13/11/09, tobychick104 <brock60@...> wrote:


From: tobychick104 <brock60@...>
Subject: [Peterhead] Grandmothers birth
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:12


 



My Grandmother was Frances Hay McLeod born about 1885 in Scotland.
She always told us she had been born at Hay Castle in Peterhead. She said she
was named Hay after Lord Hay.??

The only records i can find is the family living in Cruden,
Aberdeenshire. Resided at 33 Main St in 1901.

Are their still McLeods in that area.?

Aside to Peter Buchan.
Her second husband was a John Buchan, her childhood sweetheart.









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Forgot to mention that Frances is on 1891 census b1885 Cruden with the rest of
family
 
Maureen

--- On Fri, 13/11/09, tobychick104 <brock60@...> wrote:


From: tobychick104 <brock60@...>
Subject: [Peterhead] Grandmothers birth
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:12


 



My Grandmother was Frances Hay McLeod born about 1885 in Scotland.
She always told us she had been born at Hay Castle in Peterhead. She said she
was named Hay after Lord Hay.??

The only records i can find is the family living in Cruden,
Aberdeenshire. Resided at 33 Main St in 1901.

Are their still McLeods in that area.?

Aside to Peter Buchan.
Her second husband was a John Buchan, her childhood sweetheart.









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2009/11/13 tobychick104 <brock60@...> wrote:

>  My Grandmother was Frances Hay McLeod born about 1885 in Scotland.   She
always told us she had been born at Hay Castle in Peterhead. She said she was
named Hay after Lord Hay.??
>
>  The only records i can find is the family living in Cruden,
 Aberdeenshire.Resided at 33 Main St in 1901.
_______________________________________________

Scotland's People [at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ ] has one
record of the birth of a Frances McLeod in Cruden in the period
1884-1886 which ought to be worth obtaining! [I haven't looked at it -
just done a search & count!]

--
Best wishes

Ray

**********************************************************
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Forenames website:                www.whatsinaname.net
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**********************************************************

Thanks all who responded, can get a good start on this.

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Maureen Whow Are The Parents of These Thomson's  Also Lizzie Thomson born 1879
Cruden and Helen Thomson 1882 Cruden and  Jane Thomson 1886

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, MAUREEN LAWRENCE <maureen.lawrence2@...> wrote:


From: MAUREEN LAWRENCE <maureen.lawrence2@...>
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Grandmothers birth
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 4:08 PM


 



The family are on 1891 census
 
 
Thomas 1849 Cruden, Isabella 1853 Fraserburgh, Donald 1871 Cruden, Jessie 1881
Cruden, John 1879 Cruden. Thomas is a shepherd and the address is 1 The Terrace.
Also Lizzie Thomson born 1879 Cruden and Helen Thomson 1882 Cruden and  Jane
Thomson 1886 Cruden all listed as step daughters
 
 
Maureen

--- On Fri, 13/11/09, tobychick104 <brock60@verizon. net> wrote:

From: tobychick104 <brock60@verizon. net>
Subject: [Peterhead] Grandmothers birth
To: Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:12

 

My Grandmother was Frances Hay McLeod born about 1885 in Scotland.
She always told us she had been born at Hay Castle in Peterhead. She said she
was named Hay after Lord Hay.??

The only records i can find is the family living in Cruden,
Aberdeenshire. Resided at 33 Main St in 1901.

Are their still McLeods in that area.?

Aside to Peter Buchan.
Her second husband was a John Buchan, her childhood sweetheart.

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Intresting Middle Name,I Have A Harriet Hay Falconer b. 08 May 1866 in Cruden.
Paarents were James Falconer & Isabella Thomson. Is There Any Speculation Why
the Middle Name of " HAY" in these two families?

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, tobychick104 <brock60@...> wrote:


From: tobychick104 <brock60@...>
Subject: [Peterhead] Grandmothers birth
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 3:12 PM


 



My Grandmother was Frances Hay McLeod born about 1885 in Scotland.
She always told us she had been born at Hay Castle in Peterhead. She said she
was named Hay after Lord Hay.??

The only records i can find is the family living in Cruden,
Aberdeenshire. Resided at 33 Main St in 1901.

Are their still McLeods in that area.?

Aside to Peter Buchan.
Her second husband was a John Buchan, her childhood sweetheart.












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to Add to the Cruden THOMSON. William Thomson b.1876 and George Thomson b. 1880
to The Parents of James Thomson & Catherine Brown.


--- On Fri, 11/13/09, MAUREEN LAWRENCE <maureen.lawrence2@...> wrote:


From: MAUREEN LAWRENCE <maureen.lawrence2@...>
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Grandmothers birth
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 4:08 PM


 



The family are on 1891 census
 
 
Thomas 1849 Cruden, Isabella 1853 Fraserburgh, Donald 1871 Cruden, Jessie 1881
Cruden, John 1879 Cruden. Thomas is a shepherd and the address is 1 The Terrace.
Also Lizzie Thomson born 1879 Cruden and Helen Thomson 1882 Cruden and  Jane
Thomson 1886 Cruden all listed as step daughters
 
 
Maureen

--- On Fri, 13/11/09, tobychick104 <brock60@verizon. net> wrote:

From: tobychick104 <brock60@verizon. net>
Subject: [Peterhead] Grandmothers birth
To: Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:12

 

My Grandmother was Frances Hay McLeod born about 1885 in Scotland.
She always told us she had been born at Hay Castle in Peterhead. She said she
was named Hay after Lord Hay.??

The only records i can find is the family living in Cruden,
Aberdeenshire. Resided at 33 Main St in 1901.

Are their still McLeods in that area.?

Aside to Peter Buchan.
Her second husband was a John Buchan, her childhood sweetheart.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]











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1881 census
Thomas McLeod1849 Cruden, Jane 1849 Peterhead, Jane 1869 Peterhead, Donald 1871
Cruden, Thomas 1873 Cruden, Wm 1877 Cruden, John 1879 Cruden and Jessie 9 months
Cruden. Address is 1 The Terrace. Thomas is a shepherd
 
 
1881 census
Isabella Thomson 1853 Fraserburgh, James Thomson 1850 Peterhead occupation of
Slater Master, Isa 1871 Fraserburgh, Georgina M 1874 Fraserburgh, Jas 1877
Peterhead and Elizabeth S 1879 Peterhead. Address is 6 The Terrace

--- On Mon, 16/11/09, Celtic Mist <airforce_one19149@...> wrote:


From: Celtic Mist <airforce_one19149@...>
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Grandmothers birth
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 16 November, 2009, 0:11


 



Maureen Whow Are The Parents of These Thomson's  Also Lizzie Thomson born 1879
Cruden and Helen Thomson 1882 Cruden and  Jane Thomson 1886

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, MAUREEN LAWRENCE <maureen.lawrence2@ btinternet. com>
wrote:

From: MAUREEN LAWRENCE <maureen.lawrence2@ btinternet. com>
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Grandmothers birth
To: Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 4:08 PM

 

The family are on 1891 census
 
 
Thomas 1849 Cruden, Isabella 1853 Fraserburgh, Donald 1871 Cruden, Jessie 1881
Cruden, John 1879 Cruden. Thomas is a shepherd and the address is 1 The Terrace.
Also Lizzie Thomson born 1879 Cruden and Helen Thomson 1882 Cruden and  Jane
Thomson 1886 Cruden all listed as step daughters
 
 
Maureen

--- On Fri, 13/11/09, tobychick104 <brock60@verizon. net> wrote:

From: tobychick104 <brock60@verizon. net>
Subject: [Peterhead] Grandmothers birth
To: Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:12

 

My Grandmother was Frances Hay McLeod born about 1885 in Scotland.
She always told us she had been born at Hay Castle in Peterhead. She said she
was named Hay after Lord Hay.??

The only records i can find is the family living in Cruden,
Aberdeenshire. Resided at 33 Main St in 1901.

Are their still McLeods in that area.?

Aside to Peter Buchan.
Her second husband was a John Buchan, her childhood sweetheart.

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Hay is the family name of the Earls of Erroll who lived at Slains Castle
in Cruden Bay - now a ruin- from 1600 until the 1900s.
The Terrace - now Main Street used to house some of the workers at the
Castle.

This may help answer your questions,

Margie....Cruden Bay

I am looking for information about the MATTHEW families living at 47 St Peters
Street Peterhead in the 1901 census.
Charlotte Matthew {Charlotte Allerdyce Hill}dob 1857, head, boarding house
keeper, widow of William Matthew {married 28th Aug 1881 at 28 Jamaica St
Peterhead}
Lizzie {Eliza Ann}dob 4th Oct 1881
Lottie {Lotty}dob 1st Oct 1882, married John Creighton at 81 Union St Aberdeen
Maggie {Margaret Mitchell}dob 5th July 1884
Thomas dob 26 Dec 1889

Catherine {Catherine Ann Hill, sister} dob 6th June 1859 married to Alexander
Matthew on 14 Dec 1883 at 2 Lodge Walk Peterhead.
Alexander dob 18th June 1886
William dob 6th Feb 1888
David {David Hill}dob 13th March 1891
Charlotte {Charlotte Allerdyce} dob 3rd Sept 1894
Hilda F {Hilda Flora}dob 18th Sept 1897

David Hill, father
Charlotte Hill {nee Allerdyce} mother
The MATTHEW family name is spelt with one and two "T's" by the whoever, as both
family marriage certificates only have one "T", also most of the birth
certificates only have one "T". These families were my grandfather's brothers
families, any information would be appreciated.
regards Chick Mathew

Iam looking for information regarding George Duncan who was born in Peterhead
in 25/09/1874.

George Duncan had 9 siblings one of which was Alexander Duncan who was my great
grandfather and out of all the entire family, Alexander Duncan was the only one
to have married and to have had a family (or so I am lead to believe).

But there a number of questions still remain one of which is about George
Duncan.  Till now I have know evidence or proof what happened to him and if he
had married or indeed had a family or not.  Till now I am lead to believe that I
may be the only male decendent left.  The other thing point of interest is the
connection between the Family name of Duncan and Kinghorn

Hi Ross,
I just managed a quick look, but found George with the same birth date, His
father was James Duncan and his mothers name was Janet Kinghorn (thats the name
explained). I'm sure someone will come along with more info for you.

Anne
--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, "rossduncanscot" <rossduncanscot@...> wrote:
>
>  Iam looking for information regarding George Duncan who was born in Peterhead
in 25/09/1874.
>
> George Duncan had 9 siblings one of which was Alexander Duncan who was my
great grandfather and out of all the entire family, Alexander Duncan was the
only one to have married and to have had a family (or so I am lead to believe).
>
> But there a number of questions still remain one of which is about George
Duncan.  Till now I have know evidence or proof what happened to him and if he
had married or indeed had a family or not.  Till now I am lead to believe that I
may be the only male decendent left.  The other thing point of interest is the
connection between the Family name of Duncan and Kinghorn
>

Thank you



Ross Duncan

--- On Sun, 20/12/09, frantic49 <bella35@...> wrote:


From: frantic49 <bella35@...>
Subject: [Peterhead] Re: George Duncan
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 14:01


 





Hi Ross,
I just managed a quick look, but found George with the same birth date, His
father was James Duncan and his mothers name was Janet Kinghorn (thats the name
explained). I'm sure someone will come along with more info for you.

Anne
--- In Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com, "rossduncanscot" <rossduncanscot@ ...> wrote:
>
> Iam looking for information regarding George Duncan who was born in Peterhead
in 25/09/1874.
>
> George Duncan had 9 siblings one of which was Alexander Duncan who was my
great grandfather and out of all the entire family, Alexander Duncan was the
only one to have married and to have had a family (or so I am lead to believe).
>
> But there a number of questions still remain one of which is about George
Duncan. Till now I have know evidence or proof what happened to him and if he
had married or indeed had a family or not. Till now I am lead to believe that I
may be the only male decendent left. The other thing point of interest is the
connection between the Family name of Duncan and Kinghorn
>











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This would be George and his family in 1881.....

Anne

_1881 Census_
Name:                     *George* *Duncan*
Age:                        6
Estimated birth year:   abt 1875
Relationship:           Son
Father's Name:       James
Mother's Name:      Janet
Gender:                  Male
Where born:           Peterhead, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number:   232/1
Registration district:    Peterhead
Civil parish:             Peterhead
Town:                     Peterhead
County:                   Aberdeenshire
Occupation:            Scholar
ED:                          16
Household schedule number:  131
Line:                       24
Roll:                        cssct1881_67
Household Members:
Name
Age
James Duncan
<http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1881Scotland&indiv=try&h=219085\
1>
43
Janet Duncan
<http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1881Scotland&indiv=try&h=219085\
2>
40
Isabella Duncan
<http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1881Scotland&indiv=try&h=219085\
3>
15
Janet Duncan
<http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1881Scotland&indiv=try&h=219085\
4>
16
Alexander Duncan
<http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1881Scotland&indiv=try&h=219085\
5>
8
George Duncan
<http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1881Scotland&indiv=try&h=219085\
6>
6
William Duncan
<http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1881Scotland&indiv=try&h=219085\
7>
4
Helen Duncan
<http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1881Scotland&indiv=try&h=219085\
8>
3
James Duncan
<http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1881Scotland&indiv=try&h=219085\
9>
10 Mo
Mary Ann Duncan
<http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1881Scotland&indiv=try&h=219086\
0>
13


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> Thank you
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> Ross Duncan
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> --- On Sun, 20/12/09, frantic49 <bella35@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: frantic49 <bella35@...>
> Subject: [Peterhead] Re: George Duncan
> To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 14:01
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>
> Hi Ross,
> I just managed a quick look, but found George with the same birth date, His
father was James Duncan and his mothers name was Janet Kinghorn (thats the name
explained). I'm sure someone will come along with more info for you.
>
> Anne
> --- In Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com, "rossduncanscot" <rossduncanscot@ ...>
wrote:
>
>> Iam looking for information regarding George Duncan who was born in Peterhead
in 25/09/1874.
>>
>> George Duncan had 9 siblings one of which was Alexander Duncan who was my
great grandfather and out of all the entire family, Alexander Duncan was the
only one to have married and to have had a family (or so I am lead to believe).
>>
>> But there a number of questions still remain one of which is about George
Duncan. Till now I have know evidence or proof what happened to him and if he
had married or indeed had a family or not. Till now I am lead to believe that I
may be the only male decendent left. The other thing point of interest is the
connection between the Family name of Duncan and Kinghorn
>>
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Hi Ross,

My Gr Gr Grandfather was Alexander Johnstone Kinghorn c 18/5/1844 Peterhead.
His sister was your ancestor Janet Sim Kinghorn c 26/1/1842 , who married James
Duncan in 1867.
So far I have no idea where the middle names of Sim and Johnstone came from as
their father Alexander Kinghorn b Dec 1812, Old Deer, was the illegitimate son
of Margaret Stephen. I have no idea who she married and who brought him up. I
have the Kirk session record where she names Adam Kinghorn as his father. He
fathered 3 children before he married Jane Cocker. They beautifully described
this as a "trilapse of fornication"
Alexander Johnstone Kinghorn first appears in the 1841 census in Peterhead
married to Christian Middleton.
Alexander was a widow by 1851, and married Margaret Ledingham 28/11/1852 in
Peterhead.
Does anyone out there recognise any of these names?

Regards

Eileen




________________________________
From: rossduncanscot <rossduncanscot@...>
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 20 December, 2009 12:32:14
Subject: [Peterhead] George Duncan

 
Iam looking for information regarding George Duncan who was born in Peterhead in
25/09/1874.

George Duncan had 9 siblings one of which was Alexander Duncan who was my great
grandfather and out of all the entire family, Alexander Duncan was the only one
to have married and to have had a family (or so I am lead to believe).

But there a number of questions still remain one of which is about George
Duncan. Till now I have know evidence or proof what happened to him and if he
had married or indeed had a family or not. Till now I am lead to believe that I
may be the only male decendent left. The other thing point of interest is the
connection between the Family name of Duncan and Kinghorn




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Eileen,



Slightly more recent, but perhaps related:



1)      I can remember a George Ledingham from the mid-60s who was an ambulance
driver. At that time I think Peterhead only had two ambulance drivers. George
would have been somewhere between 40 – 60 I think when I remember him. I can
remember him being a very kind man.

2)      There used to be a Miss Kinghorn who taught Latin at Peterhead Academy
when I was there between 67-72.



I am sure others on the list may be able to expand. You would probably get some
pupil recollections of Miss Kinghorn from friendsreunitied.



Roy



From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ALLAN HARROP
Sent: 20 December 2009 20:15
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] George Duncan





Hi Ross,

My Gr Gr Grandfather was Alexander Johnstone Kinghorn c 18/5/1844 Peterhead.
His sister was your ancestor Janet Sim Kinghorn c 26/1/1842 , who married James
Duncan in 1867.
So far I have no idea where the middle names of Sim and Johnstone came from as
their father Alexander Kinghorn b Dec 1812, Old Deer, was the illegitimate son
of Margaret Stephen. I have no idea who she married and who brought him up. I
have the Kirk session record where she names Adam Kinghorn as his father. He
fathered 3 children before he married Jane Cocker. They beautifully described
this as a "trilapse of fornication"
Alexander Johnstone Kinghorn first appears in the 1841 census in Peterhead
married to Christian Middleton.
Alexander was a widow by 1851, and married Margaret Ledingham 28/11/1852 in
Peterhead.
Does anyone out there recognise any of these names?

Regards

Eileen

________________________________
From: rossduncanscot <rossduncanscot@...
<mailto:rossduncanscot%40yahoo.com> >
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 20 December, 2009 12:32:14
Subject: [Peterhead] George Duncan


Iam looking for information regarding George Duncan who was born in Peterhead in
25/09/1874.

George Duncan had 9 siblings one of which was Alexander Duncan who was my great
grandfather and out of all the entire family, Alexander Duncan was the only one
to have married and to have had a family (or so I am lead to believe).

But there a number of questions still remain one of which is about George
Duncan. Till now I have know evidence or proof what happened to him and if he
had married or indeed had a family or not. Till now I am lead to believe that I
may be the only male decendent left. The other thing point of interest is the
connection between the Family name of Duncan and Kinghorn

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Thanks so much for your reply Roy,

I will follow up on these links. It is so much easier with unusual names, but I
have hit a brick wall with Margaret Stephen. I had spent about 10 years
connecting all the Kinghorn families in the NE, when I discovered that
the Kinghorns had not even been a part of Alexander's life!

Regards

Eileen



________________________________
From: "Henderson, Roy" <roy.henderson@...>
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 21 December, 2009 7:55:41
Subject: RE: [Peterhead] George Duncan

 
Eileen,



Slightly more recent, but perhaps related:



1) I can remember a George Ledingham from the mid-60s who was an ambulance
driver. At that time I think Peterhead only had two ambulance drivers. George
would have been somewhere between 40 – 60 I think when I remember him. I can
remember him being a very kind man.

2) There used to be a Miss Kinghorn who taught Latin at Peterhead Academy when I
was there between 67-72.



I am sure others on the list may be able to expand. You would probably get some
pupil recollections of Miss Kinghorn from friendsreunitied.



Roy



From: Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf
Of ALLAN HARROP
Sent: 20 December 2009 20:15
To: Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] George Duncan





Hi Ross,

My Gr Gr Grandfather was Alexander Johnstone Kinghorn c 18/5/1844 Peterhead.
His sister was your ancestor Janet Sim Kinghorn c 26/1/1842 , who married James
Duncan in 1867.
So far I have no idea where the middle names of Sim and Johnstone came from as
their father Alexander Kinghorn b Dec 1812, Old Deer, was the illegitimate son
of Margaret Stephen. I have no idea who she married and who brought him up. I
have the Kirk session record where she names Adam Kinghorn as his father. He
fathered 3 children before he married Jane Cocker. They beautifully described
this as a "trilapse of fornication"
Alexander Johnstone Kinghorn first appears in the 1841 census in Peterhead
married to Christian Middleton.
Alexander was a widow by 1851, and married Margaret Ledingham 28/11/1852 in
Peterhead.
Does anyone out there recognise any of these names?

Regards

Eileen

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From: rossduncanscot <rossduncanscot@ yahoo.com <mailto:rossduncans cot%40yahoo.
com> >
To: Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:Peterhead% 40yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Sunday, 20 December, 2009 12:32:14
Subject: [Peterhead] George Duncan


Iam looking for information regarding George Duncan who was born in Peterhead in
25/09/1874.

George Duncan had 9 siblings one of which was Alexander Duncan who was my great
grandfather and out of all the entire family, Alexander Duncan was the only one
to have married and to have had a family (or so I am lead to believe).

But there a number of questions still remain one of which is about George
Duncan. Till now I have know evidence or proof what happened to him and if he
had married or indeed had a family or not. Till now I am lead to believe that I
may be the only male decendent left. The other thing point of interest is the
connection between the Family name of Duncan and Kinghorn

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William Park  b. Abt 1813
                     m. 4 August 1847
Margaret Gray b. Abt 1821
                                               Mary Park  born  Peterhead
                                               Ann   Park  born  Peterhead
                                     William Alexander born Crudens
 
Is This Family  apart of any PARK family Research.?
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Mary:

I followed your advise and hired a researcher. It was well worth the cost as
I now have not only a report but also photos of all my GGGrandfather's
certificates and applications for same.

William

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Mary Barnes
   Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:33 PM
   To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Re: Seamen


     William,

   I think it really would be worth your while to go (or get someone to
   go for you) to both the Guildhall Library and the National Maritime
   Museum, because between the two you would get the complete career
   history of the Robert Davidson who had master's ticket C32589 /
   C32598, who seems to be the one you're interested in (but better check
   both numbers, as it's not clear when or why the number was changed).

   Mary

   Mary Barnes
   marysb@...

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The May family eventually settled in the Wellington region, apparently after
exploring/touring New Zealand. The had a farm off Glenside Road, just out of
Johnsonville, then had a fishing/fish curing business near Paramata, before John
Alexander May set up a grocery in Johnsonville and Jessie ran a drapery.
 
More information is available and even the original tickets for the SS Ionic are
around.
 
Regards
 
Ken May
 
P.S. Sorry about the delay in responding, but life is good when you're busy!

--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Christine Tregonning <cjtregonning@...> wrote:


From: Christine Tregonning <cjtregonning@...>
Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: Emmigration of May & Cowe families to Auckland, New
Zealand
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 7 August, 2009, 10:18


 



I am not related to these families but I have found the MAY family arriving
in Auckland in March 1886. From the IGI the youngest daughter is named
Paulina. No sign of the COWE family on the same ship.

Regards,

Christine


Auckland Area Passenger Arrivals 1838-1889



Name

MAY,

Vessel

IONIC: Arrived:Auckland 18 March 1886

Notes

Mr




Name

MAY,

Vessel

IONIC: Arrived:Auckland 18 March 1886

Notes

Mrs




Name

MAY, Barbara

Vessel

IONIC: Arrived:Auckland 18 March 1886

Notes

Miss




Name

MAY, Eliza

Vessel

IONIC: Arrived:Auckland 18 March 1886

Notes

Miss




Name

MAY, Jessie

Vessel

IONIC: Arrived:Auckland 18 March 1886

Notes

Miss




Name

MAY, John

Vessel

IONIC: Arrived:Auckland 18 March 1886




Name

MAY, Polini

Vessel

IONIC: Arrived:Auckland 18 March 1886

Notes

Miss

From: Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf
Of ALISON KENNEDY
Sent: Thursday, 6 August 2009 9:23 a.m.
To: Peterhead Genealogy
Subject: [Peterhead] Re: Emmigration of May & Cowe families to Auckland, New
Zealand

The following is taken from the East Aberdeenshire Observer, dated Tuesday,
January 16, 1886 and I have reproduced the article here in case it is of
assistance to anyone else:

"EMIGRATION TO NEW ZEALAND - On Saturday forenoon over a dozen emigrants
left Peterhead for Auckland, New Zealand. They consist chiefly of two
families - those of Mr John May, grocer and fishcurer, Queen Street; and of
Mr Alexander Cowe, Roanheads. A large number of friends assembled at the
railway station and wished them a farewell. The Great Northern Railway
Company sent a special saloon carriage to take them to London direct."

I would add that I have never seen articles, other than this one, reporting
on a family emigrating. Also interesting is the Railway Company sending a
special carriage to take them to London.

Alison

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Does anyone know about George Willox who married Elizabeth Grot on Aug. 15, 1819
in Peterhead, Aberdeenshire,Scotland. I have record of his decedents to my
grandmother Eleanor Frator Willox.I would like to find out about his parents and
those of Elizabeth Grot. Thanks Heather

Good to hear from you again, William. I'm glad that it worked out well for you.
These certificates are full of information, aren't they?

Mary

On 30/12/2009, at 11:21 AM, William E. Scheyer wrote:

> Mary:
>
> I followed your advise and hired a researcher. It was well worth the cost as
> I now have not only a report but also photos of all my GGGrandfather's
> certificates and applications for same.
>
> William
>
>

Mary Barnes
marysb@...






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