Hi William, Angela, Ray,

I have been reading your postings with interest, and wondering if your
Davidsons are related to mine.

My great great grandmother was Janet Davidson, born about 1794 in
Crimond, daughter of William Davidson and Janet Crighton or Creighton.
I know nothing about Janet's parents other than their names. In
Peterhead in 1817, Janet had an illegitimate daughter Mary Ann
McConnel, to a seaman James McConnel, who appears to have abandoned
her. He left Peterhead before the baby's birth and did not return. The
minutes of the kirk session for 1817 and 1819 recount the history of
this event and Janet's humiliation. Janet later married Robert Stephen
in 1822 and their first child, Jane Stephen, born 1824, was my great
grandmother.

Your records show links between the Davidson and Stephen families, and
the names William, Robert and Alexander were all common names in my
family, so it seems possible that your Davidsons and mine are related.
Have you any indication of how? I have so far been unable to find
details of Janet's baptism or her parents' marriage on Scotland's
People.

Mary Barnes

Hi Bill,
I've spent the morning transcribing & summarising the records I've got and I'd
be delighted to share this with you.

Best wishes,
Fionnadh




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Fionnadh:

Yes, I would like that. But, since this board strips out attachments send it
directly to me @ wscheyer@....

Regards,

Bill
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of F Ratchford
   Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:59 AM
   To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Peterhead] (unknown)


     Hi Bill,
   I've spent the morning transcribing & summarising the records I've got and
I'd be delighted to share this with you.

   Best wishes,
   Fionnadh

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--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, "William E. Scheyer" <wscheyer@...> wrote:
>Hi Bill and Fionnadh,

Bill's post with the 1841 details sent me scurrying for my records!

My 1841 census record has Robert, 6months, living with Mary Sangster and her
parents in Cruden. I'm pretty confident this is the right family because the age
fits better with Robert's birth date. So I think Fionnadh's Robert Davidson and
my Robert Davidson are not the same person. Bill, I think your 1841 census
record shows Fionnadhs's Robert, not ours.


1841 Census:
Piece: SCT1841/185 Place: Cruden-Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Cruden Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 2 Page: 7
Address: Hardslacks
Surname   First name(s)   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   Remarks
SANGSTER   Alexander   M   85   Farmer 	  Aberdeenshire
SANGSTER   Elizabeth   F   65  	 	  Aberdeenshire
SANGSTER   Mary   F   30  	 	 	        Aberdeenshire
DAVIDSON   Robert   M   6m  	 	 	        Aberdeenshire


Regards,

Angela Patteson
(P.S I have changed my email contact to my gmail account but am still accessing
both accounts)


> Dear Fionnadh:
>
> There is a strong possibility we are related too. I have up loaded a file
> named "Robert Sr.'s baptism 1791.tif" which could be the Robert Davidson who
> married the Helen Dunn you are referring to.
>
> I have traced my roots back to Captain Robert Davidson who was born in 1840.
> His parents were Robert Davidson and Mary Sangster. However, Captain Robert
> Davidson was illegitimate. So your Robert Davidson could be the father of my
> Captain Robert Davidson  unless there is another generation in between. The
> 1841 census shows who I believe to be my Captain Robert Davidson (2 years
> old at the time) living with a James (age 41) and Helen (age 36) Davidson
> plus 5 other children ranging in age from 4 to 15 one of which is also
> James. The 1841 census also shows Mary Sangster living with Alexander
> Sangster a blacksmith (both 28 years of age) presumably her brother since
> they are the same age and, Robert Davidson (a seamen age 45), James Davidson
> (a seamen age 20), William Davidson (a seamen age 25), and John Davidson (a
> seamen age 41) all absent when the census was taken (presumably at sea). So,
> this all seems to connect.
>
> As you see the above connects me to Angela. But, you and I need to do
> further research.
>
> I hope others will jump into this so we can connect all the dots.
>
> Bill
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of F Ratchford
>   Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:30 AM
>   To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [Peterhead] (unknown)
>
>
>     Hi there,
>   I am interested in your Davidson connections as I have ancestors with the
> same occupation and name.
>
>   I have a Robert Davidson, born Peterhead c1791 to Alexander Davidson.
> Alexander christened other boys: William, Alexander and possibly James.
> Robert Davidson married Helen Dunn in Peterhead 1825. They went on to have a
> number of children but he died sometime before 1856.
>
>   Do get in touch if any of this connects,
>
>   Best wishes,
>   Fionnadh
>
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, Peterhead@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
Thanks so much for posting these files.  I hope to be able to contribute some of
my resources soon too.

Regards,
Angela
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Peterhead
> group.
>
>   File        : /Irene Brady Letter.doc
>   Uploaded by : william_scheyer <wscheyer@...>
>   Description : Captain Robert Davidson's Burial Lair
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Peterhead/files/Irene%20Brady%20Letter.doc
>
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
> http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/general.htmlfiles
>
> Regards,
>
> william_scheyer <wscheyer@...>
>

Hello Mary;
My Davidson was Jean, a great great grandmother. Her daughter was Janet Walker,
my great grandmother. I am sure that these Davidsons are all related somewhere.
If some of us could make a giant family tree we would see how they are related.
Jean Davidson. Born 1827 in Peterhead. Died Jul 1905 in Peterhead.
Janet Walker. Born 1847. Died 28 Apr 1925 in Peterhead.
Regards
William Leslie

-- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, Mary Barnes <marysb@...> wrote:
>
> Hi William, Angela, Ray,
>
> I have been reading your postings with interest, and wondering if your
> Davidsons are related to mine.
>
> My great great grandmother was Janet Davidson, born about 1794 in
> Crimond, daughter of William Davidson and Janet Crighton or Creighton.
> I know nothing about Janet's parents other than their names. In
> Peterhead in 1817, Janet had an illegitimate daughter Mary Ann
> McConnel, to a seaman James McConnel, who appears to have abandoned
> her. He left Peterhead before the baby's birth and did not return. The
> minutes of the kirk session for 1817 and 1819 recount the history of
> this event and Janet's humiliation. Janet later married Robert Stephen
> in 1822 and their first child, Jane Stephen, born 1824, was my great
> grandmother.
>
> Your records show links between the Davidson and Stephen families, and
> the names William, Robert and Alexander were all common names in my
> family, so it seems possible that your Davidsons and mine are related.
> Have you any indication of how? I have so far been unable to find
> details of Janet's baptism or her parents' marriage on Scotland's
> People.
>
> Mary Barnes
>

Hi Bill and Angela,
I emailed you off group, did you recieve it ok?

Best wishes,
Fionnadh




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Hi Fionnadh,
Yes, thanks, I received the email.  There is a lot to go through!  I'm not sure
I can be much help because the Davidson line is not a direct line for me, so
hasn't been a major focus of my research. My ggg grandmother, Mary Sangster, is
the mother of Robert Davidson, but I am descended from her daughter from a later
marriage, Mary Ann Florence.
Good luck with your research!
Regards,
Angela



--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, F Ratchford <thebigknights@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Bill and Angela,
> I emailed you off group, did you recieve it ok?
>
> Best wishes,
> Fionnadh
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Fionnadh:

Yes, I received your e-mail and will reply once I verify some of my own
information. I discovered I made some errors interpreting the census data.

Bill
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of F Ratchford
   Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:25 AM
   To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Peterhead] (unknown)


     Hi Bill and Angela,
   I emailed you off group, did you recieve it ok?

   Best wishes,
   Fionnadh

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Are any group members receiving messages containing duplication of text
throughout the message? Could it perhaps be a problem with Yahoo Groups or -
yikes - a problem with my computer?

Linda Adam
Ontario, Canada

Not me. My messages come through OK.

William E. Scheyer
New Jersey, USA


   -----Original Message-----
   From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of diddleymom
   Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:33 PM
   To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Peterhead] Duplication of Text in Postings


     Are any group members receiving messages containing duplication of text
throughout the message? Could it perhaps be a problem with Yahoo Groups or -
yikes - a problem with my computer?

   Linda Adam
   Ontario, Canada






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Yup getting the same thing, also getting it with one of the other groups
I belong to as well.

Colin

-------Original Message-------

From: diddleymom
Date: 26/08/2009 04:33:44
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Peterhead] Duplication of Text in Postings

Are any group members receiving messages containing duplication of text
throughout the message? Could it perhaps be a problem with Yahoo Groups or -

yikes - a problem with my computer?

Linda Adam
Ontario, Canada

Mary:

I sorry to say I that I have not established the link between our families
but, that does not mean a link does not exist. Several people are
researching Robert Davidson (I think there were several) so I forwarded your
e-mail to Fionnadh who may be able to help both you and I.

Best Wishes,

Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Mary Barnes
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:27 AM
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Captain Robert Davidson


   Hi William, Angela, Ray,

I have been reading your postings with interest, and wondering if your
Davidsons are related to mine.

My great great grandmother was Janet Davidson, born about 1794 in
Crimond, daughter of William Davidson and Janet Crighton or Creighton.
I know nothing about Janet's parents other than their names. In
Peterhead in 1817, Janet had an illegitimate daughter Mary Ann
McConnel, to a seaman James McConnel, who appears to have abandoned
her. He left Peterhead before the baby's birth and did not return. The
minutes of the kirk session for 1817 and 1819 recount the history of
this event and Janet's humiliation. Janet later married Robert Stephen
in 1822 and their first child, Jane Stephen, born 1824, was my great
grandmother.

Your records show links between the Davidson and Stephen families, and
the names William, Robert and Alexander were all common names in my
family, so it seems possible that your Davidsons and mine are related.
Have you any indication of how? I have so far been unable to find
details of Janet's baptism or her parents' marriage on Scotland's
People.

Mary Barnes

Does anybody know of a marriage between these two people ? Probably in the
1860's.

Thanks

If the marriage, birth or death is 1855 or after, you can view it and print it
off from Scotlandspeople for a small fee.

Catherine









   ----- Original Message -----
   From: sanbowfie4
   To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:15 AM
   Subject: [SPAM] [Peterhead] Nicholson Bruce and Margaret Hutchinson


     Does anybody know of a marriage between these two people ? Probably in the
1860's.

   Thanks






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To the person who posted asking about Nicholson Bruce and Margaret Hutchinson,
Ancestry has records of a Nicholson Bruce and other Bruce's in Peterhead as
witnesses to other baptisms in Peterhead and Boddam and also of a Nicholson
Bruce in the late 1830's and early 1840's.
Catherine

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There is a record of the marriage of NICHOLSON BRUCE and MARGARET HUTCHISON
STEPHEN at Peterhead in 1861 on Scotlands People (232/00 0008)

Steve

2009/9/2 Cci <cci@...>

>
>
> If the marriage, birth or death is 1855 or after, you can view it and print
> it off from Scotlandspeople for a small fee.
> Catherine
>
>
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> To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:15 AM
> Subject: [SPAM] [Peterhead] Nicholson Bruce and Margaret Hutchinson
>
> Does anybody know of a marriage between these two people ? Probably in the
> 1860's.
>
> Thanks
>
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Firstly , thanks for the replies

I was searching for this marriage for someone and obviously they did not have
the brides full name. I did look on Scotlands People but not having the correct
info I did not find this marriage.

Thanks again.

Secondly, is there a problem with replying to posts on these pages ? I tried
twice with my reply not being shown, even allowing for a delay, and tried
sending an e-mail to Steve with no luck. Any reason why this should happen ?

For : William Leslie

William,   Do you have any more details about Robert Davidson & Ann
Bruce ?

                      I have a particular interest in Peterhead
shipmasters and would be grateful for any details you could give me on
your ancestors (Robert DAvidson & Ann Bruce).

                        Alex. Ritchie


--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, "William Leslie" <william.leslie@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello;
> I also have Davidson's in my Peterhead Family Tree.
>
> 2. Ann Bruce. Born 1801 in Peterhead. Died 1880 in Peterhead. MY GREAT
> GREAT GREAT GRANDPARENTS
>
> She married Robert Davidson, 28 Oct 1821. Occupation Shipmaster.
>
> They had the following children:
>
> 3 i. Jean Davidson
>
>
>
> I am convinced that if you could make a big enough Family Tree of all
the
> residents of Peterhead, that it would show that they are all related
> somewhere.
>
>
>
> William Leslie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angela Patterson" atpatter@...
> To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Captain Robert Davidson
>
>
> Hello from Australia,
>
> William, I think we are related! I think your Robert Davidson is the
> first born son of my ggg grandmother, Mary Sangster who migrated to
> Australia in 1861.
>
> Mary had 4 children. The first, Robert Davidson, was born
> illegitimately in Cruden in 1840. He was the son of Robert Davidson.
> Mary's second son was also illegitimate. He was Alexander Beaton,
> son of James Beaton, blacksmith, and he was born in about 1847 in
> Peterhead. Mary later married James Florence. "Sandy" Beaton came to
> Australia with his mother and 2 sisters, Mary Ann and Jemima Florence
> in 1861 on the "Morning Light".
>
> Mary's son, Robert, was already married when she migrated to
Australia.
>
> Mary died on 5 February 1898 in Victoria. She has many descendants
> in Australia.
>
> Regards from your Aussie cousin,
>
> Angela Patterson
>
>
>
> On 19/08/2009, at 10:51 AM, william_scheyer wrote:
>
> > Hello from the USA.
> >
> > My great great grandfather was Captain Robert Davidson born in
> > Peterhead on October 28, 1840 and past away on January 12, 1904 in
> > Dundee.
> >
> > During his life, he captained many whaling ships such as the "Polar
> > Star" and "Diana" and was the Captain of the "Diana" during the
> > Dundee Antarctic Expedition of 1892-93.
> >
> > I am interested in finding sketches and/or photographs of him and
> > one of his ships named the "polar Star" as well as any living
> > decendants of his.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > W. Scheyer
> >
> > wscheyer@...
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>

Hello Alex Ritchie;
The only information I have is the family tree chart which I could send you.
This also includes my great grandfather James Rankin who was a mariner and for
whom I have some information. I would be happy to find more information about
James Rankin's seagoing career. Contact me at william.leslie@sympatico and I
will send you the family tree chart.
Regards
William Leslie
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: ugiepark1
   To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:46 AM
   Subject: [Peterhead] Re: Captain Robert Davidson



   For : William Leslie

   William, Do you have any more details about Robert Davidson & Ann
   Bruce ?

   I have a particular interest in Peterhead
   shipmasters and would be grateful for any details you could give me on
   your ancestors (Robert DAvidson & Ann Bruce).

   Alex. Ritchie

   --- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, "William Leslie" <william.leslie@...>
   wrote:
   >
   > Hello;
   > I also have Davidson's in my Peterhead Family Tree.
   >
   > 2. Ann Bruce. Born 1801 in Peterhead. Died 1880 in Peterhead. MY GREAT
   > GREAT GREAT GRANDPARENTS
   >
   > She married Robert Davidson, 28 Oct 1821. Occupation Shipmaster.
   >
   > They had the following children:
   >
   > 3 i. Jean Davidson
   >
   >
   >
   > I am convinced that if you could make a big enough Family Tree of all
   the
   > residents of Peterhead, that it would show that they are all related
   > somewhere.
   >
   >
   >
   > William Leslie
   >
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: "Angela Patterson" atpatter@...
   > To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:25 AM
   > Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Captain Robert Davidson
   >
   >
   > Hello from Australia,
   >
   > William, I think we are related! I think your Robert Davidson is the
   > first born son of my ggg grandmother, Mary Sangster who migrated to
   > Australia in 1861.
   >
   > Mary had 4 children. The first, Robert Davidson, was born
   > illegitimately in Cruden in 1840. He was the son of Robert Davidson.
   > Mary's second son was also illegitimate. He was Alexander Beaton,
   > son of James Beaton, blacksmith, and he was born in about 1847 in
   > Peterhead. Mary later married James Florence. "Sandy" Beaton came to
   > Australia with his mother and 2 sisters, Mary Ann and Jemima Florence
   > in 1861 on the "Morning Light".
   >
   > Mary's son, Robert, was already married when she migrated to
   Australia.
   >
   > Mary died on 5 February 1898 in Victoria. She has many descendants
   > in Australia.
   >
   > Regards from your Aussie cousin,
   >
   > Angela Patterson
   >
   >
   >
   > On 19/08/2009, at 10:51 AM, william_scheyer wrote:
   >
   > > Hello from the USA.
   > >
   > > My great great grandfather was Captain Robert Davidson born in
   > > Peterhead on October 28, 1840 and past away on January 12, 1904 in
   > > Dundee.
   > >
   > > During his life, he captained many whaling ships such as the "Polar
   > > Star" and "Diana" and was the Captain of the "Diana" during the
   > > Dundee Antarctic Expedition of 1892-93.
   > >
   > > I am interested in finding sketches and/or photographs of him and
   > > one of his ships named the "polar Star" as well as any living
   > > decendants of his.
   > >
   > > Thank you.
   > >
   > > W. Scheyer
   > >
   > > wscheyer@...
   > >
   > >
   > >
   >
   >
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >
   >
   >
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Hello:  I have the list of Seamen with ticket numbers.  I believe we have about
a dozen names that could be ours.  Is there a way to confirm parents.  I am
working with the names Buchan, Bruce and Strachan.  Hope to hear from you.

Jean Cameron
jeancameron-calif@...

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Jean:

The Captain Robert Davidson I am related to had master's certificate number
32589.

William Scheyer


--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Cameron" <jeancameron-calif@...> wrote:
>
> Hello:  I have the list of Seamen with ticket numbers.  I believe we have
about a dozen names that could be ours.  Is there a way to confirm parents.  I
am working with the names Buchan, Bruce and Strachan.  Hope to hear from you.
>
> Jean Cameron
> jeancameron-calif@...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

To Jean and William,

Note that it's important to distinguish between Seamen's and Master's
tickets (see http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UK19thCSeamen.html). If
Jean's list is of seamen and their ticket numbers, Robert Davidson's
Master's ticket will not be on it. From 1835, seamen had to be
registered and their certificate of registration was called a ticket.
But when an experienced seaman completed the process of qualifying as
a master, he was issued with a new certificate, with a different number.

I found out about my Peterhead shipmaster ancestors, first from Wade
Buchan's website (go to http://users.bigpond.net.au/phdgen/, choose
Miscellaneous Records and then Peterhead Seamen 1840s and 50s).
Incidentally, there's only one Robert Davidson listed, born in
Peterhead in 1791, seamen's ticket number 131108. If you think this is
your guy, contact Wade. He has copies of the actual tickets.

On a visit to Britain last year, I found out more about my shipmasters
from the Lloyd's Captains Register, held at the Guildhall Library in
London (see http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capreg.htm). It has details of
each Shipmaster's career after gaining his master's ticket.
Unfortunately only the index is available online (see
http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capintro.htm
), and even that is not yet complete. However, the Ds are complete,
and I notice that although there are many Robert Davidsons on it,
there is only one born in Peterhead (in 1839), with Master's
certificate of competency number C32589, changed to C32598, awarded at
London in 1875. I've no idea why the number might have been changed,
maybe just an error in the original entry. You need the number of the
master's ticket to find out more. At the library in the National
Maritime Museum in Greenwich I was able (armed with the number) to get
a copy of the actual "ticket" and, much more important, his
application for the ticket, which gave details of his career as a
mariner up till that time, including all the ships he had sailed on.
If you are not able to visit London, you could probably get a
researcher to look up the records for you, but it's not nearly as
exciting as going there in person and handling the actual records!

I hope this is of some help.


Mary Barnes
marysb@...

To Mary Barnes:  Thankyou for your imput about the seamen's tickets.  I will be
in touch with Wade.  Jean
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mary Barnes
   To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:53 PM
   Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Re: Seamen


     To Jean and William,

   Note that it's important to distinguish between Seamen's and Master's
   tickets (see http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UK19thCSeamen.html). If
   Jean's list is of seamen and their ticket numbers, Robert Davidson's
   Master's ticket will not be on it. From 1835, seamen had to be
   registered and their certificate of registration was called a ticket.
   But when an experienced seaman completed the process of qualifying as
   a master, he was issued with a new certificate, with a different number.

   I found out about my Peterhead shipmaster ancestors, first from Wade
   Buchan's website (go to http://users.bigpond.net.au/phdgen/, choose
   Miscellaneous Records and then Peterhead Seamen 1840s and 50s).
   Incidentally, there's only one Robert Davidson listed, born in
   Peterhead in 1791, seamen's ticket number 131108. If you think this is
   your guy, contact Wade. He has copies of the actual tickets.

   On a visit to Britain last year, I found out more about my shipmasters
   from the Lloyd's Captains Register, held at the Guildhall Library in
   London (see http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capreg.htm). It has details of
   each Shipmaster's career after gaining his master's ticket.
   Unfortunately only the index is available online (see
http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capintro.htm
   ), and even that is not yet complete. However, the Ds are complete,
   and I notice that although there are many Robert Davidsons on it,
   there is only one born in Peterhead (in 1839), with Master's
   certificate of competency number C32589, changed to C32598, awarded at
   London in 1875. I've no idea why the number might have been changed,
   maybe just an error in the original entry. You need the number of the
   master's ticket to find out more. At the library in the National
   Maritime Museum in Greenwich I was able (armed with the number) to get
   a copy of the actual "ticket" and, much more important, his
   application for the ticket, which gave details of his career as a
   mariner up till that time, including all the ships he had sailed on.
   If you are not able to visit London, you could probably get a
   researcher to look up the records for you, but it's not nearly as
   exciting as going there in person and handling the actual records!

   I hope this is of some help.

   Mary Barnes
   marysb@...





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hello,does anyone in this group know anything about the Brooks family who lived
in the buchan area late 1800s early 1900s (Peterhead,Cruden Bay or Aquharney ) ?
thank you,Janette

Mary:

Thanks for your help. My Robert Davidson was born on October 28, 1840 in
Cruden. So, perhaps the Robert Davidson with ticket number 131108 was his
father or grandfather. I can see this will take a lot more work although, I
do have many crew lists etc. from the national archives showing Captain
Robert Davidson Certificate number 32589. Perhaps I'll contact Wade also.

Regards,

William

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Jean Cameron
   Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:54 PM
   To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Re: Seamen


     To Mary Barnes: Thankyou for your imput about the seamen's tickets. I
will be in touch with Wade. Jean
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mary Barnes
   To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:53 PM
   Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Re: Seamen

   To Jean and William,

   Note that it's important to distinguish between Seamen's and Master's
   tickets (see http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UK19thCSeamen.html). If
   Jean's list is of seamen and their ticket numbers, Robert Davidson's
   Master's ticket will not be on it. From 1835, seamen had to be
   registered and their certificate of registration was called a ticket.
   But when an experienced seaman completed the process of qualifying as
   a master, he was issued with a new certificate, with a different number.

   I found out about my Peterhead shipmaster ancestors, first from Wade
   Buchan's website (go to http://users.bigpond.net.au/phdgen/, choose
   Miscellaneous Records and then Peterhead Seamen 1840s and 50s).
   Incidentally, there's only one Robert Davidson listed, born in
   Peterhead in 1791, seamen's ticket number 131108. If you think this is
   your guy, contact Wade. He has copies of the actual tickets.

   On a visit to Britain last year, I found out more about my shipmasters
   from the Lloyd's Captains Register, held at the Guildhall Library in
   London (see http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capreg.htm). It has details of
   each Shipmaster's career after gaining his master's ticket.
   Unfortunately only the index is available online (see
http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capintro.htm
   ), and even that is not yet complete. However, the Ds are complete,
   and I notice that although there are many Robert Davidsons on it,
   there is only one born in Peterhead (in 1839), with Master's
   certificate of competency number C32589, changed to C32598, awarded at
   London in 1875. I've no idea why the number might have been changed,
   maybe just an error in the original entry. You need the number of the
   master's ticket to find out more. At the library in the National
   Maritime Museum in Greenwich I was able (armed with the number) to get
   a copy of the actual "ticket" and, much more important, his
   application for the ticket, which gave details of his career as a
   mariner up till that time, including all the ships he had sailed on.
   If you are not able to visit London, you could probably get a
   researcher to look up the records for you, but it's not nearly as
   exciting as going there in person and handling the actual records!

   I hope this is of some help.

   Mary Barnes
   marysb@...

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William,

I think it really would be worth your while to go (or get someone to
go for you) to both the Guildhall Library and the National Maritime
Museum, because between the two you would get the complete career
history of the Robert Davidson who had master's ticket C32589 /
C32598, who seems to be the one you're interested in (but better check
both numbers, as it's not clear when or why the number was changed).

Mary


Mary Barnes
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Mary:

You are quite correct. But, since I live in the USA I'll need to get someone
to do the leg work for me. Do you have a list of such people?

William

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Mary Barnes
   Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:33 PM
   To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Re: Seamen


     William,

   I think it really would be worth your while to go (or get someone to
   go for you) to both the Guildhall Library and the National Maritime
   Museum, because between the two you would get the complete career
   history of the Robert Davidson who had master's ticket C32589 /
   C32598, who seems to be the one you're interested in (but better check
   both numbers, as it's not clear when or why the number was changed).

   Mary

   Mary Barnes
   marysb@...

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On 18/09/2009, at 10:28 AM, William E. Scheyer wrote
> Mary:
>
> You are quite correct. But, since I live in the USA I'll need to get
> someone
> to do the leg work for me. Do you have a list of such people?
>
> William
>








I don't have a list for London, but I know such people exist, and have
used one in another city. Try googling something like "genealogical
researcher London" and see what you get.

Mary

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Can someone please tell me the requirements to get a seamen's ticket early
1800's.  Thanks.

Jean Cameron

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