looking for parents of
alexander duff (M) williamina webster 1830s-40s
william thompson (m)ann jane mckenzie 1830s-40s
joseph alexander (m) charlotte hay 1790-1810
alexander taylor (M) agnes freeland (M)-1836

looking for parents of
william mcgee (M)helen ann bruce 1880-1900 their son william (B)1904-
1957 married georgina emslie 1908-1964 no info on georgina's parents.
micheal rafferty (M)jemima mcgregor 1860-1880.
george davidson (M) jane pirie  1860-1880
archibald rafferty (B)1880 (M) bella pirie davidson

Alexander Duff and Williamina Webster are my Greatgrandparents. Their parents
were Peter Duff and Ann Cormie and John Webster and Jessie Munro. Are they
related to you?
     Jim Adams.
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   Subject: [Peterhead] duff


   looking for parents of
   alexander duff (M) williamina webster 1830s-40s
   william thompson (m)ann jane mckenzie 1830s-40s
   joseph alexander (m) charlotte hay 1790-1810
   alexander taylor (M) agnes freeland (M)-1836


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alexander & williamina were my g.g.g.parents on my mothers side
Margeret gibbson duff.if you would like some more details e-mail me @
Johnstephen59@... i will be happy to pass on extra details.



In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, J Adams <jckadams@s...> wrote:
> Alexander Duff and Williamina Webster are my Greatgrandparents.
Their parents were Peter Duff and Ann Cormie and John Webster and
Jessie Munro. Are they related to you?
>     Jim Adams.
>   ----- Original Message -----
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>   To: peterhead@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 11:32 AM
>   Subject: [Peterhead] duff
>
>
>   looking for parents of
>   alexander duff (M) williamina webster 1830s-40s
>   william thompson (m)ann jane mckenzie 1830s-40s
>   joseph alexander (m) charlotte hay 1790-1810
>   alexander taylor (M) agnes freeland (M)-1836
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I am working on a thesis regarding the habits and migration patterns of
North-East Scottish travelling families.

I am particularly interested in any information on or about Peterhead families -
or any other north-east groups.

Any help gratefully received.



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Hello,
Here are some of the names which I have a little information on.  Is anyone
interested?

Alexander Shivas Warrender b. April 1888 Peterhead M Ann Isabella Campbell d.
1974, Vancouver, BC
James Warrender (cooper) b. 1862 Peterhead M Catherine Shivas d 19 Mar 1942
Vancouver, BC
Catherine Shivas b. 1860, Ellon d 18 Apr 1947 Vancouver, BC
James Warrender (cooper) b. 1824 Fraserburgh  M Janet Dougal d. 17 Sep 1898,
Peterhead
Janet Dougal b. 12 Aug 1826 Longside d. 7 Oct 1903 Peterhead
Alexander Shivas b. 1820 M Christian Black d. 11 April 1899 Udny
Christian Black b. 1829, Inverurie d. 8 Feb 1908  Udny
Robert Warre(a)nder (fishcurer) b. 20 Mar 1798, Lonmay M (1) Elizabeth Walls M
(2) Barbara Bodie d 1858, Peterhead
Elizabeth Walls b 1794 Peterhead (?) d. 1857 Peterhead
William Dougal (cooper) b 1798 M Ann Rennie d. 6 Apr 1867 Peterhead
George Shivas (farmer) b 1783 M Gordon Hall d 14 Jan 1869, Ellom
James Warrender (farmer) born in 1770's M Mary Arthur
George Shivas (farmer) M Isabella Webster Jun 1779 Old Meldrum
Alexander Warrender 1730's M Elizabeth Kidd b. 9 Nov 1733, Lonmay
Charles Black b 1790, Inverurie M Isabella Hall d. 1855 Inverurie
Isabella Hall b 1790 d 27 Dec 1856 Fintray
Thanks for your time.
Cindy




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I may have taken a wrong turn in my Birnie Family research and would appreciate
any help a list member may be able to provide.

Alexander Birnie b. 1777 Peterhead  d. 1855 Peterhead
In 1810 he married Fanny Henry b. 1775  d. 1861 Peterhead

Alexander's Death Cert. gave the following information:
Alexander Birnie, joiner; age 77; born Peterhead lived 77 years in district;
Parents Alexander Birnie, joiner (deceased) and Margaret Findlater (deceased);
Married to Fanny Henry;
Children; Catherine aet. 12, 1823 , Margaret aet. 41, 1858 , Alexander 39, 
Fanny  36,
Jean  34 and  May  33
Died January 15, 1855, Longate; Bronchitis 8 days; Buried Churchyard of
Peterhead; Informant, Alexander Birnie, son.
Will Probate: dated Jul 04, 1855, Aberdeen - Wright in Peterhead. The Will noted
William Abernethy, of the Coast Guard Service as the spouse of his daughter,
Jean (Birnie) Abernethy.

I had located a bap. of Jane / Jean Birnie, Apr 29, 1820, Phd. where only the
father, Alexander Birnie's name was shown. I felt Jane was the daughter of
Alexander and Fanny. The 1841 Peterhead Census showed Jane Birnie age 20 F.S.,
living on Longate Street with an Alexander Birnie, age 27 and spouse Maria, age
20. Can anyone suggest what F.S following Jane's name would mean?

LONGATE STREET
Alexander Birnie 27
Maria 22
Maria 3
James 2
Alexander 6 months
Jane 20 F.S.
Christian 35
Ann 11
Alexander 5
Betsey 2

In 1841 Alexander Birnie and Fanny also lived on Longate Street.

LONGATE STREET
Alexander Birnie 63
Faney 60
Alexander 26 cooper
Faney 23 shoe binder

Now the problem lies in the recent copies of death certificates I have obtained
for William Abernethy and Jane (Birnie) Abernethy.

Jane Abernethy died Feb. 01, 1875, #2 Castle Street, Phd age 54. Married to
William Abernethy, Coast Guard. Her parents are noted as Alexander Birnie,
Joiner, deceased and Fanny Birnie, MS Hay (not Henry or Hendry), deceased.
William Abernethy, husband, was the informant of Jane's death. Could he possibly
have given the incorrect Maiden Surname of his mother-in-law? (Jane also had a
sister Fanny Birnie who married Alexander Hay).
ref. 232 / 00 0030

William Abernethy's death cert., Dec. 11, 1894, Coast Guard (Naval Pension).
Married 1st to Jane Birnie and 2nd to Eliza Cook. His parents were James
Abernethy, Mason, deceased and Isabella Abernethy, ms Robertson, deceased. ref
232 / 00 0222

I had felt I was right on track until Jane's mother was noted as Fanny Hay on
the death cert. Sorry for the lengthy message but am eager for suggestions from
the list.

Regards,
Linda Adam











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HI John
I don't know if the following is of any interest to you

Marriage of my g grandparents
25 th DEC 1871

GEORGE LEWIS married JEAN BUARTARLY at DINGWALL
Their profession was stated as HAWKERS

We have since found that the spelling of BUARTARLY was corrupted and should
have read BERTORELLI

George Lewis


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-     My g grandfather is also listed in various sources as hawker
and packman in the late 19th. Century. My grandmother told me that he
travelled the countryside selling threads, buttons, needles etc. A
hawker or packman(selling from a pack) was what we would call a
travelling salesman today.
      When I was attending school in 1940's Peterhead there were at
least three tinker families in town. They were rag and bone or scrap
merchants. For obvious reasons I will not identify them.
      The tinker or Gypsy clan in Scotland is identified as the
McPhees and today, many who bear that surname, are still on the road
in Scotland.
-- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, gmarlewis@a... wrote:
> HI John
> I don't know if the following is of any interest to you
>
> Marriage of my g grandparents
> 25 th DEC 1871
>
> GEORGE LEWIS married JEAN BUARTARLY at DINGWALL
> Their profession was stated as HAWKERS
>
> We have since found that the spelling of BUARTARLY was corrupted
and should
> have read BERTORELLI
>
> George Lewis
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

looking for parents of
william mcgee (M)helen ann bruce 1880-1900 their son william (B)1904-
1957 married georgina emslie 1908-1964 no info on georgina's parents.
micheal rafferty (M)jemima mcgregor 1860-1880.
george davidson (M) jane pirie 1860-1880
archibald rafferty (B)1880 (M) bella pirie davidson

I think FS  signifies a female servant

Margie


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I am trying to trace the birth and parents of John Wilson who
married Elizabeth Farquhar in peterhead on 6 july 1858. I have
picked up from the Peterhead website (Marriages) that his father's
name was George, mothers maiden name is listed as Wilson.  A recent
update to the family search site gives his mothers name as Mary.

The 1881 census shows John and Elizabeth and three daughters,ages
10, 12, 14 living at 16 Kirk Str.  There was also 3 sons of the
union, John, Robert and George. The census lists John's birthplace
as peterhead and his age as 44.  The peterhead website gives his
birth as 1836 this is ok by me.  I am unable to pick up his birth in
peterhead and have come to 2 conclusions.

1.  He was not born in Peterhead but moved there when very young and
did not know any better.

2.  The birth was not "registerd /christened" with the church or
whatever for financial reasons as I picked up from previous
postings.

I have since serched the L D S site and picked up only 3 John
Wilson's with parents of George and Mary. One in Inverness,1838 one
in Edinburgh, also 1838 and one in South Leith, Midlothian 1836.

If someone with access to the 1851 census would be able to check out
if a George and Mary Wilson with a son John were in Peterhead and
check all their birth places. I would be grateful So that I can
confirm or deny his birthplace as peterhead, otherwise I would opt
for the South Leith as the names of sibling are more in line with
his children.

A second query I have is regarding the second son Robert.  In the
IGI he is listed as only Robert Wilson, while some of the others
have other family names. Any records in New Zealand have him listed
as Robert Cowie Wilson, Cowie being his Maternal Grandmothers maiden
name.  Is/was it common or not uncommon for family members to take a
family name on board for some reason or whim or were often all names
not recoreded.  I am convinced I have the right people as at least
one of Roberts sons collected all the family names.  Robert by way
of possibly keeping it all in the family married a Farquhar, whose
death registraton and cemetary records read as Cowie-Wilson,
Ausralian Born but of Peterhead and other Scotish parentage.

Any clues as to any of these puzzles would be much appreciated

Noelene Gratton
Hamilton New Zealand

sorry i cant help you im just starting looking up my family tree as im the last
of the roanheads martins  but funny you should be looking for a john wilson
thats my next door nieghbours name

peterscotnz <ngratton@...> wrote:I am trying to trace the birth and
parents of John Wilson who
married Elizabeth Farquhar in peterhead on 6 july 1858. I have
picked up from the Peterhead website (Marriages) that his father's
name was George, mothers maiden name is listed as Wilson.  A recent
update to the family search site gives his mothers name as Mary.

The 1881 census shows John and Elizabeth and three daughters,ages
10, 12, 14 living at 16 Kirk Str.  There was also 3 sons of the
union, John, Robert and George. The census lists John's birthplace
as peterhead and his age as 44.  The peterhead website gives his
birth as 1836 this is ok by me.  I am unable to pick up his birth in
peterhead and have come to 2 conclusions.

1.  He was not born in Peterhead but moved there when very young and
did not know any better.

2.  The birth was not "registerd /christened" with the church or
whatever for financial reasons as I picked up from previous
postings.

I have since serched the L D S site and picked up only 3 John
Wilson's with parents of George and Mary. One in Inverness,1838 one
in Edinburgh, also 1838 and one in South Leith, Midlothian 1836.

If someone with access to the 1851 census would be able to check out
if a George and Mary Wilson with a son John were in Peterhead and
check all their birth places. I would be grateful So that I can
confirm or deny his birthplace as peterhead, otherwise I would opt
for the South Leith as the names of sibling are more in line with
his children.

A second query I have is regarding the second son Robert.  In the
IGI he is listed as only Robert Wilson, while some of the others
have other family names. Any records in New Zealand have him listed
as Robert Cowie Wilson, Cowie being his Maternal Grandmothers maiden
name.  Is/was it common or not uncommon for family members to take a
family name on board for some reason or whim or were often all names
not recoreded.  I am convinced I have the right people as at least
one of Roberts sons collected all the family names.  Robert by way
of possibly keeping it all in the family married a Farquhar, whose
death registraton and cemetary records read as Cowie-Wilson,
Ausralian Born but of Peterhead and other Scotish parentage.

Any clues as to any of these puzzles would be much appreciated

Noelene Gratton
Hamilton New Zealand


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Hi group, how are you.

On the Angus site, Christopher Fleet from the National Library of Scotland has
posted Ordnance Survey town plans of 1,900 sheets covering 62 towns.
The Peterhead one is there, 1868, the detail is amazing, well it is to me.
Have a look if you have'nt already seen it.

http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/townplans/index.html

Best wishes,
Catherine

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http://www.peterhead.org/

Hi group

Would someone please be able to tell me the location of  the Muckle Kerk. Is
it on a corner?

Thank you

Sue

Corner of Erroll St and Charlotte St

Try entering the address at www.map24.co.uk.  The following link may or may
not work
http://www.map24.co.uk/map24/index.php3?map24_sid=f1956483f94eab95305929e4aa
223418&street0=KIRK+ST&zip0=Post+Code&city0=Peterhead&country0=gb&gcf=1&mapt
ype=JAVA&force_maptype=RELOAD&x=0&y=0

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Suttle [mailto:suttlesound@...]
Sent: 22 July 2003 05:08
To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Peterhead] Peterhead Old Parish Church


Hi group

Would someone please be able to tell me the location of  the Muckle Kerk. Is
it on a corner?

Thank you

Sue



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The Muckle Kirk is on the corner of Charlotte Street and Erroll Street.

Bill Morrison


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--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Suttle" <suttlesound@b...>
wrote:
> Hi group
>
> Would someone please be able to tell me the location of  the Muckle
Kerk. Is
> it on a corner?
>
> Thank you
>
> Sue

there is a picture of the kirk in the group photo's phd old & new

Hi group, how are you.
These names might help someone.  They're off the Old Scotland fiche.  None of
the names are related to me.
All Peterhead.
Best wishes,
Catherine

John Aamond married Margaret Davidson 26-12-1868
Elizabeth Abbot m Daniel Joiner 2-12-1821
Amelia Abel m James Milne 2-11-1837
Helen Abel m James Reid 11-12-1828
Isabella Abel m George Ogilvie 14-12-1845
James Abel chr 31-3-1777 Episcopal Church, father William
Jean Abel chr 30-7-1779 Episcopal Church, father William
Jean Abel m George Mitchell 18-2-1833
Martha Abel m William Lockie 16-2-1830
Mary Abel m John Gill 11-12-1836
Amelia Abernethy m William Lind 17-2-1798
Ann Abernethy m Alexander Seivewright 18-3-1824
Ann Greig Abernethy chr 26-1-1841, father William
Catherine Soutter Abernethy chr 23-9-1827, father David
Catherine Abernethy chr 10-11-1844, father William
Catherine Abernethy m Alexander Wedderburn 13-12-1849
Catherine Abernethy m J. Frawer Sim 28-4-1868
Christian Abernethy m Thomas Robertson 7-2-1831
Christian Abernethy chr 16-2-1848, f William, m Ann Milne
David Abernethy m Marjory Webster 28-11-1811
David Abernethy chr 2-2-1819, father David
David Abernethy m Isabella Rainy 1-12-1825
Elizabeth Abernethy m George Murray 6-1-1842
George Abernethy chr 22-6-1834, father William
Helen Abernethy m Robert Cordiner 20-4-1806
Isabella Abernethy chr 14-3-1843, father William
Isabella Abernethy m John Gordon 8-12-1844
James Abernethy chr 25-9-1821, father James

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Thank you to those who responded to my query regarding the Muckle Kirk.

I have uploaded into the group photos, a photo of the church which was taken
sometime in the early 1920's.

Sue

At 10:08 PM 24/07/03, you wrote:

>I have uploaded into the group photos, a photo of the church which was taken
>sometime in the early 1920's.

Can someone PLEASE post a step by step guide to finding the group photos??
I could maybe contribute some if I knew where and how to put them.

Many thanks, Elisabeth

Elisabeth Wilson
South Hobart, Tasmania
researching GORDON (Peterhead) GIBB (Peterhead) YOUNG (Slains/Cruden)
SPENCE(Peterhead) PAUL (Peterhead?) MURRISON (Peterhead) CRAIG (Strichen)
DAVIDSON (Strichen)

Hello,

I want to trace  my grandfather's family,Charles Bruce Ironmonger.   There
was a family rift and I know very little - he must have been born 1875 -80
wife Anne or Annie.  I believe his father was called either Charles or John.

Can anyone help?

thanks   Sheilagh

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Hi,

Charlie Bruce the ironmonger's shop was in Chapel Street - near where Currys
is now. As I am in my 60's and can remember shopping there regularly for my
parents, the son must also have been Charles. I am sure there is a photo on the
site of the shop. If not I will try and get one ,

Margie


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Should any of the home members be interested, Dr Lewis Mackie is
giving a talk on old Collieston on Tuesady 29th July in Collieston.
As many of the Collieston fishing links are also similar to those of
Peterhead - as are the familes- this should be a most interesting
talk. It is being done in conjunction with Collieston Gala running
next week - culminating on Sat 2nd August,

Margie

Hi Sheilagh, How wonderful to 'meet' you!
                    I am married to Ian Holmes, son of Isobel Bruce, sister
of your father Charles Bruce-or is he your grandfather?  I had heard of you,
as we have had contact with Charles Bruce ,Ian's cousin.
The adress on this e-mail is from our daughter's, in Ontario Canada. We live
in Nova Scotia Canada, but are here as Anne is expecting her first child
anytime soon.
I have done  the Bruce & Diverall Families back to late 1700s.
Ian's grandfather was Charles Bruce, he married Annie Hills and they had
Lillian,Charlotte, Isobel, Marjorie and Charles.
Charles Bruce was the son of Charles Bruce & Jeminia Diverall. Charles was
the son of John Bruce & Ann Cowie, who was the son of Charles or John Bruce
and Isabel Elrick.
I won't give anymore details as I won't get it right. I don't have all my
files with me! I think Anne may have some so I'll see what we can find here.
Ian & myself-Elizabeth Blyth Taylor [known as Betty] were married in
September 1961 and have 2 children. Andrew Ian b. 1962 and Anne Elizabeth b.
1964. Andrew has 3 children and as I said we are waiting for Anne's first!
That's probably enough for now and we look forward to hearing from you.
Betty & Ian
P.S. We know there was 'a rift' in the family-as there was in my own- we
have NO interest in these past events at all!

Margie wrote:

> Should any of the home members be interested, Dr Lewis Mackie is
> giving a talk on old Collieston on Tuesday 29th July in Collieston.

I shan't be able to attend, alas :-) But I'd be _very_ interested in
learning more about it. My grandmother bought 8 The Cliff in 1935,
and it passed out of our family when my sister and I sold it about 10
years ago.

Regards,

Don



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Don Hi,

I am sure your family will be remembered in Collieston- my daughter in law's
parenets own the shop in Collieston and my great grandmother was a Mitchell
from Collieston.

Should you want any news or photos of Collieston let me know,

Margie


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Hello Marge,
My father was Charles Bruce as well as my grandfather - we left the
Peterhead area in 1960,   Chapel Street now certainly rings a bell, the shop
seemed to be very deep with a fireplace showroom at the back.   Many thanks
for the info.
Sheilagh


>From: Mmm16dav@...
>Reply-To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
>To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Ironmonger's shop
>Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:37:01 EDT
>
>
>
>Hi,
>
>Charlie Bruce the ironmonger's shop was in Chapel Street - near where
>Currys
>is now. As I am in my 60's and can remember shopping there regularly for my
>parents, the son must also have been Charles. I am sure there is a photo on
>the
>site of the shop. If not I will try and get one ,
>
>Margie
>
>
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>

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