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#1154 From: Linda Adam <taadam@...>
Date: Thu Oct 19, 2000 10:39 am
Subject: Re: Bloo Toon and WW1 and WW2
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Keith,
I think I'll go with your response. It has more charm than the other
definitions. :)
Thank you!

Keith Duncan wrote:

> You will no doubt hear differing stories from different folk - some
> say the prevailing cold winds - that's what made people "Blue" - Hence
> Bloo Toon (or the literal meaning - Blue Town as you said). Others say
> it was the colour the boats were painted and so on the stories echo.
> However the story I have often stuck with is that in days gone by,
> folk used to wear Blue Moggans or stockings - the folk were called
> "Bloo Mogganers" and the town was called the "Bloo Toon".
>
> Hope that answers your query :-)
>
> --
> Keith Duncan
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Linda Adam
>   To: Peterhead@egroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 7:12 AM
>   Subject: [Peterhead] Bloo Toon and WW1 and WW2
>
>
>   Can someone please shed light on the "nickname" for Peterhead being
>   "Bloo Toon". Would that mean "Blue Town" or named aptly because the
>   winds were always blowing in strongly from the sea?
>
>   ............
>
>   Regards,
>   Linda Adam
>
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#1155 From: "Linda Adam" <taadam@...>
Date: Fri Oct 20, 2000 6:22 am
Subject: Re: OPR Extracts
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for Alex Ritchie

Hello Alex,

I have been meaning to ask you for the Birnie information that you
have. Any help at all is greatly appreciated.

My mom has given me a poor photo of the "Birnie Memorial Bridge". It
was presented to the town of Peterhead in 1824 by Alexander Birnie
Esq. in memory of his father George Birnie who was Harbour Master of
Peterhead for many years. Both George and Alexander are apparently
ancestors but I'm not just too sure where they fit in to the family.
Another puzzle!

With thanks,
Linda Adam

--- In Peterhead@egroups.com, "Alex Ritchie" <alex@r...> wrote:
> For Linda Adam
>
> Hi Linda,
>                 I'm afraid that that is probably the only
information on the OPRs. OPRs are notorious for varying widely from
Parish to Parish and it depended upon the local Minister as to what
information he recorded. I know it can be extremely disappointing at
times. I have seen extracts from South Leith Parish which gave quite
a
lot of marriage detail (e.g. the addresses of the bride & groom and
the groom's occupation) but, in my experience, this is the exception
rather than the rule.
>                 You won't really get any more information by
looking
at the original OPR.
>
>                 A "wright" would be a tradesman (like a joiner).
Wrights usually specialised to some extend. For example a Cart wright,
> a Wheel wright, a Ship wright, an Ark wright (chest maker).
>
>                 Witnesses at Baptism could be any of the folks you
mention. Sometimes Grandparents, Parents, Relatives or friends. I
would say usually a relative though.
>
>                 I have some Birnie information (Sea-farers).
Probably not the line you are researching, but it might help you to
eliminate some from your enquiries.  Let me know.
>
>                 Best Regards
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#1156 From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
Date: Fri Oct 20, 2000 8:52 pm
Subject: Re:Birnie
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For Linda Adam

Hi Linda

I saw the name Birnie mentioned in your last posting and thought I should
tell you about where the name appears in my research.

I have a Barbara Birnie FRASER age 23 born in Rathen living with her
parents, siblings and their children, in Peterhead 1851.  Thanks to Wade!

There was granddaughter aged 7 named Charlotte Birnie living there too, and
I believe she was Barbara's daughter.  I don't know where the name Birnie
came from, or who Charlotte's father was, but thought you may be interested.

Hope you are well.
Joanne
Researching:MILNE,KINLOCH-Peterhead
                         MILNE,KINLOCH,SMITH-Rest of
Aberdeen
                         KINLOCH-Dundee
                         WATSON,SMITH-Glasgow

#1157 From: Linda Adam <taadam@...>
Date: Sat Oct 21, 2000 4:23 am
Subject: Re: Re:Birnie
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Hi Joanne,

Thanks for the Birnie information and for taking an interest.

I'm not sure if or where it may fit in just yet but I will save the
details. My saved file is going to explode one of these days I am sure!

Could you provide me with full details from the 1851 Census that Wade
gave you? Parents, siblings etc. of Barbara & house #. It may help to
piece the puzzle together.

All the best,
Linda


Joanne Pye wrote:

> For Linda Adam
>
> Hi Linda
>
> I saw the name Birnie mentioned in your last posting and thought I
> should
> tell you about where the name appears in my research.
>
> I have a Barbara Birnie FRASER age 23 born in Rathen living with her
> parents, siblings and their children, in Peterhead 1851.  Thanks to
> Wade!
>
> There was granddaughter aged 7 named Charlotte Birnie living there
> too, and
> I believe she was Barbara's daughter.  I don't know where the name
> Birnie
> came from, or who Charlotte's father was, but thought you may be
> interested.
>
> Hope you are well.
> Joanne
> Researching:MILNE,KINLOCH-Peterhead
>                         MILNE,KINLOCH,SMITH-Rest of
> Aberdeen
>                         KINLOCH-Dundee
>                         WATSON,SMITH-Glasgow
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#1158 From: Linda Adam <taadam@...>
Date: Sun Oct 22, 2000 1:55 am
Subject: Milne
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For Joanne Pye

Hi Joanne,

I thought I would mention that I an have Ann Milne b. 1879 Peterhead
d.17.04.1963 Peterhead.
Anne married my Gr. Half Uncle, Alexander Wedderburn, date of marriage
unknown, in Peterhead. Alexander Wedderburn was born/bap Apr 01. 1872 ,
Peterhead & died Jul 08.1944 in Peterhead. They resided at 27 Prince
St., Peterhead.

Alexander & Ann Wedderburn had daughters , Ann Alexander Wedderburn,
Annie Wedderburn,
and Agnes Walker Wedderburn. All died in infancy or as young children
according to a photo I have of the headstone. No dates are given of the
children's ages at death.

I believe Alexander & Ann adopted or took in an orphaned niece of Ann's
who's name is Annie Wedderburn. Little Annie would have been perhaps
three years of age at the time (abt 1911) and I have recently found that
she is still alive and living in Peterhead in a nursing home.

Ann Milne had one sister that I am aware of named Maggie Milne. I
believe Maggie married a Smith (according to my elderly mom) and had a
daughter Lizzie Smith? and a daughter Maggie.  Lizzie died Dec. 04,
1957. I have a letter written by Ann (Milne) Wedderburn dated 1958 that
simply gives reference to her sister Maggie's daughter, Lizzie S. dying
on the above mentioned date. Lizzie's sister, Maggie was still living at
that time but was very ill.

I felt this may perhaps fit into your Milne research somewhere.

All the best,

Linda Adam

#1159 From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
Date: Sun Oct 22, 2000 7:50 pm
Subject: Re: Re:Birnie/Fraser
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Hi Linda

Here's the info Wade kindly gave me.  In case you're interested, my Shand
McInnon KINLOCH married Ann FRASER in 1863.

Shand and Ann moved to Dundee and in 1881 they were living with their
children and a woman named Ann FISHER aged 34 and described as a cousin.

I can't find how she'd link with the KINLOCH's just yet, so I thought it was
worth mentioning as it may have been on the FRASER side.

I also think that there may have been 2 other daughters to John and
Margaret.  I think they were

Margaret Pirie FRASER b1836 Grange
Jane FRASER b1830    Dens

District 17, page 6, No.16, Dens
John Fraser, head, 47, Lonmay
Margaret Fraser, wife, 50, Rathen
Barbara Fraser, daughter, 23, Rathen
Magdalane Fraser, daughter, 18, Peterhead
Ann Fraser, daughter, 12, Peterhead
Rebeca Fraser, daughter, 9, Peterhead
Charlotte Birnie, grand-daughter, 7, Peterhead
Benjamin Park, grand-son, 1, Peterhead

Hope this fits in, and thanks again to Wade for providing me with it in the
first place!

Joanne

#1160 From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
Date: Sun Oct 22, 2000 8:42 pm
Subject: Re: Milne
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For Linda

Hi again Linda!

Do you know anything about Ann MILNE's parents?  At present the name doesn't
ring a bell, but I'll certainly keep the information on file just in case.

Thank you very much for your thought though.
Joanne

Researching:MILNE,KINLOCH-Peterhead
                         MILNE,SMITH-Rest of Aberdeen
                         KINLOCH-Dundee
                         WATSON,SMITH-Glasgow

#1161 From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
Date: Sun Oct 22, 2000 12:57 pm
Subject: Wedderburn
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Linda. I was interested to read about your Wedderburns. Ethel G.
Diverall m. Kenneth B.R. Wedderburn. She is still alive [but not in
Peterhead] b. abt 1910. Her husband d. in Peterhead in the 50's. Betty.

#1162 From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
Date: Mon Oct 23, 2000 12:07 am
Subject: 1851 census
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Hi Wade

Many apologies if this in an inappropriate ask, but I was wondering if you
could supply me with the details of any KINLOCH families that appear in your
1851 census?

I have the details for James and his wife Helen, that you kindly gave me a
while back, but would be really grateful for any others as I'm working under
the assumption that most of them were related.

Thank you very much Wade, I really appreciate all of your help.

Hope you are well.
Joanne

#1163 From: Bruce Milne <brucemil@...>
Date: Sun Oct 22, 2000 7:38 pm
Subject: Re: Re:Birnie/Fraser
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Hi, perhaps you can let me know what info you're looking for with regards
to Milne., If i can help, count on it

#1164 From: Linda Adam <taadam@...>
Date: Mon Oct 23, 2000 10:06 am
Subject: Re: Re:Birnie/Fraser
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Thanks Joanne and also to Wade for the fraser Birnie information. I seem
to recall seeing a Birnie/Pirie link somewhere in my research travels.
For the time being I'll just tuck this aside but if I do come across
anything that may help you, Joanne I'll keep you in mind.

Linda

Joanne Pye wrote:

> Hi Linda
>
> Here's the info Wade kindly gave me.  In case you're interested, my
> Shand
> McInnon KINLOCH married Ann FRASER in 1863.
>
> Shand and Ann moved to Dundee and in 1881 they were living with their
> children and a woman named Ann FISHER aged 34 and described as a
> cousin.
>
> I can't find how she'd link with the KINLOCH's just yet, so I thought
> it was
> worth mentioning as it may have been on the FRASER side.
>
> I also think that there may have been 2 other daughters to John and
> Margaret.  I think they were
>
> Margaret Pirie FRASER b1836 Grange
> Jane FRASER b1830    Dens
>
> District 17, page 6, No.16, Dens
> John Fraser, head, 47, Lonmay
> Margaret Fraser, wife, 50, Rathen
> Barbara Fraser, daughter, 23, Rathen
> Magdalane Fraser, daughter, 18, Peterhead
> Ann Fraser, daughter, 12, Peterhead
> Rebeca Fraser, daughter, 9, Peterhead
> Charlotte Birnie, grand-daughter, 7, Peterhead
> Benjamin Park, grand-son, 1, Peterhead
>
> Hope this fits in, and thanks again to Wade for providing me with it
> in the
> first place!
>
> Joanne
>
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#1165 From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
Date: Sun Oct 22, 2000 9:55 am
Subject: Re: 1851 census
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Hi Joanne,

Joanne Pye wrote:

> Many apologies if this in an inappropriate ask, but I was wondering if
> you
> could supply me with the details of any KINLOCH families that appear
> in your 1851 census?

This is the place to ask.  Sorry there are no others in Peterhead, only
the one family which you said you already have.

Regards, Wade.


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#1166 From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
Date: Tue Oct 24, 2000 1:54 am
Subject: Re: 1851 census
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Wade

OK, thanks a lot for that.  Looks like we didn't belong there really!!  The
search goes on.

Thanks again
Joanne

#1167 From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
Date: Tue Oct 24, 2000 2:03 am
Subject: Re: Milne
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Hi Bruce

My Milne information starts of in Peterhead, but ends up in St Nicholas.

My real stumbling block at the moment is with Charles MILNE.  He was born
around 1831 in Crimond, but I'm beginning to have my doubts about that.

His seaman's details state Crimond as his place of birth, as does the 1881
census entry for him, but I can't find his birth registered anywhere.

I had planned to visit the records office in Edinburgh when I go on
Wednesday, but wasn't aware that you need to book a few months in advance!

Charles' marriage certificate says his parents were William MILNE a labourer
and Mary SMITH, but his death certificate says his father was Charles MILNE
a farm labourer and Mary SMITH.

All bar one of his children were born in Peterhead.  I can send you the
details of these if you are interested, and he married Helen KINLOCH in
1857.

I would really appreciate any advice you could give me as to how to find his
parents and siblings, as MILNE is my main interest and would love to take it
a little further.

Thank you for your interest in my posting and I look forward to hearing from
you.

Take Care
Joanne

#1168 From: Bruce Milne <brucemil@...>
Date: Mon Oct 23, 2000 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Milne
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Hi Again,

	 I don't know how much help I can be.  My father, Peter, was born in
Peterhead in 1895, the son of James , a fishing ( herring trawler )
captain.  His , my father, that is, sister Chris married  another fishing
captain from Aberdeen named Akie ( I don't have a clue what his real name
was) and still lives there  ( on her own at 90 plus0 and is a virtual font
of information ) .  I'll try to get her address if you're interested.
Please let me know and , in the interim, hing in noo!
	 Sorry.....Akie's surname was Smith

					 Bruce

#1169 From: "Allan Harrop" <a.harrop@...>
Date: Mon Oct 23, 2000 11:00 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Milne
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 3:03 AM
Subject: [Peterhead] Re: Milne



Joanne,
Last time I went to the record office, I phoned to book a place, and was
told that the reserved places,
were booked, but if I turned up early  there should be no problem.
Give them a phone , it should be fine
Eileen Harrop

> I had planned to visit the records office in Edinburgh when I go on
> Wednesday, but wasn't aware that you need to book a few months in advance!
>
>
>
>
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>
>

#1170 From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
Date: Wed Oct 25, 2000 1:58 am
Subject: Re: Re: Milne
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Hi Bruce and all

Thank you for the offer of your relatives address, I would be very
interested if you think she wouldn't mind corresponding?

By coincidence, Charles' son, also Charles b1858 married a Jane SMITH from
Rayne.  They married in St Nicholas though.

Charles' siblings were:
Helen Jane
Jemima Dustan
William Thomson
Daniel
James

I don't know what happened to Helen Jane.  Her birth appears in the IGI but
she's not with the family in the 1881 census.

Thanks again for your help!
Joanne

#1171 From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
Date: Tue Oct 24, 2000 8:10 pm
Subject: (no subject)
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#1172 From: "I Tilbury" <i.l.tilbury@...>
Date: Wed Oct 25, 2000 8:40 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 428
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From Lynley Tilbury
Reading the below William is looking for a James Leslie
I have taken all the Leslie men of the LDS  on internet
And found that there was a James Leslie [father] who had a John [c]
8/11/1688 Forgue Aberdeen
There was a John Lesly [father] who had a john [c] 7/3/1689 Monquhittter
Aberdeen
There is a James Lesly [father who had a John [c] 21/9/1693 Fyvie Aberdeen
Good Luck
                          ----------------------

----- Original Message -----
From: William Leslie <gripfast@...>
To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Digest Number 428


> Wade;
> As you look through the various censuses, don't forget
> that I am still searching for more information on my
> great great grandfather James Leslie (1827 to 1857)
> and my great great great grandfather John Leslie born
> approximately 1800, both Crofters of Longside, but with
> many family connections in Peterhead.
> Regards
> William
>
> Peterhead@egroups.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > There are 5 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> >       1. Re: 1851 Census
> >            From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
> >       2. OPR Extracts
> >            From: "Linda Adam" <taadam@...>
> >       3. Re: Re: Marriages in Peterhead 1807
> >            From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
> >       4. OPR Extracts
> >            From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
> >       5. 1891 census
> >            From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 01:55:52 +1000
> >    From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
> > Subject: Re: 1851 Census
> >
> > Hi Alex,
> >
> > Alex Ritchie wrote:
> >
> > > Wade, can I impose upon you for information from the 1851 Census ?
> > >
> > > I'm looking for a John Mitchell (I would guess his age to be around
> > > 50)
> > > His wife was a Margaret Mitchell (nee Margaret Forbes Symmers)
> > >
> > > Don't know if you have access to 1841 Census but, if you do, can you
> > > look there as well ?
> >
> > Sorry didn't find any that was close in Peterhead.  Only found a
> > Margaret Mitchell, age 46, born Longside, but unmarried.
> >
> > I don't have access to the 1841 census at home yet.  I will not be going
> > into the city for awhile, but I will keep an eye out next time I have
> > look at the 1841 census.
> >
> > Regards, Wade.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 2
> >    Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:00:01 -0000
> >    From: "Linda Adam" <taadam@...>
> > Subject: OPR Extracts
> >
> > Would there be a list member familiar with information received from
> > OPR Births and Baptisms and Marriage Extracts?
> > I had ordered and received extracts and was a bit disapointed that
> > both parents were not named on either the Baptism or Marriage record.
> >
> > The marriage extract showed the date of marriage (April 06 1843),
> > grooms name (Alexander Birnie)and occupation (Cooper) and name of
> > spouse (Elizabeth McKisseck).
> >
> > The Baptism for the above Alexander gave me the following:
> > Birnie , Alexander , 1815 - April 22nd - Alexander Birnie, Wright, in
> > Peterhead had a son born - baptised and named Alexander, before
> > William Abernethy and William Birnie.
> >
> > Is their a possibility that more information can be located from an
> > actual certificate or is this the best I can hope for?
> >
> > Can someone tell me what the occupation "wright" would be and also
> > what relationships witnesses at a baptism would be to the child?
> > Uncles/Grandparents or just friends?
> >
> > I am still at the brick wall for ancestors of Alexander Birnie and
> > Elizabeth McKisseck! Too many Alexander Birnie's!
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > Linda Adam (Ontario)
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 3
> >    Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:36:50 -0700
> >    From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
> > Subject: Re: Re: Marriages in Peterhead 1807
> >
> > For T.Gray:
> >
> > Hi here it is:
> >
> > Extract from the Register of Proclamations of Banns and Marriages 1807
> >
> > Parish of Peterhead    County of Aberdeen
> >
> > 7th May    John HILL/MILL, Merchant, and Margaret GRAY, both in
Peterhead.
> >
> > On closer inspection it looks like HILL but I thought I should say that
its
> > not crystal clear.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> > Joanne
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 4
> >    Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:42:15 +0100
> >    From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
> > Subject: OPR Extracts
> >
> > For Linda Adam
> >
> > Hi Linda,
> >                 I'm afraid that that is probably the only information on
the OPRs. OPRs are notorious for varying widely from Parish to Parish and it
depended upon the local Minister as to what information he recorded. I know
it can be extremely disappointing at times. I have seen extracts from South
Leith Parish which gave quite a lot of marriage detail (e.g. the addresses
of the bride & groom and the groom's occupation) but, in my experience, this
is the exception rather than the rule.
> >                 You won't really get any more information by looking at
the original OPR.
> >
> >                 A "wright" would be a tradesman (like a joiner). Wrights
usually specialised to some extend. For example a Cart wright,
> > a Wheel wright, a Ship wright, an Ark wright (chest maker).
> >
> >                 Witnesses at Baptism could be any of the folks you
mention. Sometimes Grandparents, Parents, Relatives or friends. I would say
usually a relative though.
> >
> >                 I have some Birnie information (Sea-farers). Probably
not the line you are researching, but it might help you to eliminate some
from your enquiries.  Let me know.
> >
> >                 Best Regards
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 5
> >    Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:01:03 -0300
> >    From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
> > Subject: 1891 census
> >
> > Does anyone have easy access to the 1891 census of Peterhead?
> > I am looking for an Anderson Family.
> > Father George in 1881 age 44     b.Old Deer[mother was a Diverall]
> > mother Andrina   "    age 47     b.Shetland
> >    3 sons
> > George                 "  18     b.Shetland
> > James                  "  16     b.Lonmay
> > William                "  14     b.Lonmay
> > In 1881 they were at 5 Lilly Terrace  Peterhead.
> > Betty.
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
>

#1173 From: Linda Adam <taadam@...>
Date: Thu Oct 26, 2000 12:33 am
Subject: Re: Milne
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Hi Joanne,

I have no details of Ann Milne's parents. However I had sent a letter to
Ann (Wedderburn) Sanderson's daughter, Joan over a week ago (snail mail)
and hope that she will write me with some information which I will
gladly share with you. (Ann Sanderson is the adopted? niece of either
Ann Milne or Alexander Wedderburn.)

Take care,
Linda

Joanne Pye wrote:

> For Linda
>
> Hi again Linda!
>
> Do you know anything about Ann MILNE's parents?  At present the name
> doesn't
> ring a bell, but I'll certainly keep the information on file just in
> case.
>
> Thank you very much for your thought though.
> Joanne
>
> Researching:MILNE,KINLOCH-Peterhead
>                         MILNE,SMITH-Rest of Aberdeen
>                         KINLOCH-Dundee
>                         WATSON,SMITH-Glasgow
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#1174 From: "Alison Anderson" <A.M.Anderson@...>
Date: Sat Oct 28, 2000 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Death Details
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Hi Wade,

Many thanks once again for the death details below.  My apologies for not
replying earlier, however was on holiday and since then have not had enough
hours in the day, and am now trying to catch up.

Could I possibly ask for another three death details:

Begg, Jane, born 1857, died 1857, ref. no. 113; father Begg, William; mother
Morice
Begg, Mary, born 1857, died 1857, ref. no. 8; father Begg, William, mother
Morice
Morrice, John, born 1795, died 1864, ref. no. 57; father Morrice, Alexander;
mother Taylor

Thanking you in anticipation.

Alison

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wade Buchan" <wsb@...>
To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
Sent: 04 October 2000 10:58
Subject: [Peterhead] Re: Death Details


> Hi Alison,
>
> Alison Anderson wrote:
>
> > Could I possibly grovel for the death details of some people I'm
> > nterested in.
> >
> > Leask, James, b. 1859, d. 1860, ref. no. 68, father Leask, Alexander,
> > mother Finnie
>
> No.68, James Leask, single, 19/5/1868 7h am at 23/8 Longate, male, 17
> months, parents: Alexander Leask, seaman and Elizabeth Leask ms Finnie,
> cause: measles, no medical attendant, informant: Elizabeth Leask, her x
> mar, mother, present.
>
> > Brown, William, b. 1856, d. 1858, ref. no. 142, father Brown, George,
> > mother Grant
>
> No.142, William Brown, single, 3/12/1858, 6h15m am at 33/4 Broad Street,
> male, 2 years, parents: George Brown, tailor and Christian Brown ms.
> Grant, cause: Scrofula in the bowels had for 3 months, informant: George
> Brown, father, present.
>
> > Finnie, Mary J., b. 1856, d. 1864, ref. no. 82, father Finnie, John,
> > mother Mann
>
> No.82, Mary Jackson Finnie, single, 7/5/1864 at 2h pm at Port Henry
> Lane, female, 8 years, parents: John Finnie, seaman and Jean Finnie ms.
> Mann, cause: water in the head, 8 days, informant: Mary Jackson,
> present, 26 Windmill Street.
>
> > Finnie, Emily, b. 1864, d. 1865, ref. no. 42, father Finnie, John,
> > mother Mann
>
> No.42, Emily Finnie, single, 17/3/1865 at 5h30m pm at 52 Seagate,
> female, 1 year 4 months, parents: John Finnie, seaman and Jean Finnie ms
> Mann, cause: unknown, no medical attemdant, informant: Matilda McDougal,
> her X mark, paternal neice, present, 20 Windmill Street.
>
> > Morrice, Helen, b. 1828, d. 1864, ref. no. 98, father Morrice, John,
> > mother Finnie
>
> No.98, Helen Morrice, single, 11/6/1864 at 8h pm at 41 Merchant St,
> female, 36 years, parents: John Morrice, maltster (dead) and Catherine
> Morrice ms Finnie (dead), cause: a) gastric fever, 7 weeks and b)
> ulceration of bowels, 3 weeks, informant: Alexander Morrice, brother,
> not present, 16 Queen St.
>
> Regards, Wade.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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>
>

#1175 From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
Date: Sun Oct 29, 2000 5:03 am
Subject: Glasgow Poor Relief Applications
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Hi Wade

Sorry to be bothering you again, but was just looking at your website and
noticed a John KINLOCH listed on the index.  Born 1807.

I think my James was born 1810 and his mother was from Glasgow, so was
hoping that there may be further information with it to help?

Thanks again!
Joanne

#1176 From: Bruce Milne <brucemil@...>
Date: Sun Oct 29, 2000 3:18 am
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In which city ( country) are you located and or visiting?

				 Bruce

#1177 From: Sam <samdaniel@...>
Date: Wed Oct 25, 2000 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Marriages in Peterhead 1807
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Is it possible that it is Hull?  This would be a local pronunciation of
Hill and would reflect the fact that most people were illiterate and
although saying Hull, the scribe would spell it in the way he thought
most appropriate, ie Hill or Hull.  It often explains why name spellings
change.

         Sam

In message <012d01c037dc$4843a760$2c8bbcd4@pye1>, Joanne Pye
<joanne@...> writes
>For T.Gray:
>
>Hi here it is:
>
>Extract from the Register of Proclamations of Banns and Marriages 1807
>
>Parish of Peterhead    County of Aberdeen
>
>7th May    John HILL/MILL, Merchant, and Margaret GRAY, both in Peterhead.
>
>On closer inspection it looks like HILL but I thought I should say that its
>not crystal clear.
>
>Hope this helps
>Joanne
>
>
>
>Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
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#1178 From: Sam <samdaniel@...>
Date: Wed Oct 25, 2000 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: Bloo Toon and WW1 and WW2
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People from Peterhead are known as bloomogganers and the town colour has
always been a dark blue.  Bloomoggans were blue woollen socks worn by
the feshermin (fishermen) who went see in cobbles (small wooden boats).
From the fact that you could recognise a Peterhead lad by his socks,
they were called bloo mogganers.  So all you Bloo Toon (Blue Town)
descendants can all claim to be Blue Stocking aristocrats!

         Bred and born in the bloo toon,

                 Sam

PS Once maternity hospital births became popular, most of the Peterhead
residents were born in the Broch (Fraserburgh) and this was only solved
once the Bloo Toon got its own Maternity hospital (in the 70s?)

In message <8sm3bn+rscm@eGroups.com>, Linda Adam <taadam@...>
writes
>Can someone please shed light on the "nickname" for Peterhead being
>"Bloo Toon". Would that mean "Blue Town" or named aptly because the
>winds were always blowing in strongly from the sea?
>
>I'm also wondering whether someone may be able to shed some light on
>the Birnies or others from Peterhead and their contributions during
>the two World Wars?  A family member recalls that one or two of his
>uncles (Birnie's) served on anti-submarine sweepers during WW I.
>This
>was, as can be imagined, a pretty hazardous occupation.  Do you
>happen
>to know where I could find data whether other family members served
>in
>other capacities?
>
>One final query. Family members in Canada and the U.S. had received
>reports that Peterhead had been bombed during WW II. I have located a
>page from the Buchan Observer dated Tuesday, November 12, 1940. It
>gives details of "Bomb Havoc in NE Town" and names of seven
>fatalities
>of the bombing raid, one being James Birnie age 42.
>
>The family homestead was a large house on Prince St. built of solid
>Peterhead granite which would probably have made a fantastic bomb
>shelter. Information as to what buildings would have been used during
>air raids would also be greatly appreciated.
>
>Regards,
>Linda Adam
>
>
>
>
>Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
>

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Sam

#1179 From: Linda Adam <taadam@...>
Date: Mon Oct 30, 2000 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: Bloo Toon and WW1 and WW2
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Dear Sam,

Thank you for your Bloo Toon definition. Would Peterhead descendants not
be known as "Blue Town" gentry??  :) I recall my grandmother often
referring to certain families as  "the gentry".

Linda

Sam wrote:

> People from Peterhead are known as bloomogganers and the town colour
> has
> always been a dark blue.  Bloomoggans were blue woollen socks worn by
> the feshermin (fishermen) who went see in cobbles (small wooden
> boats).
> >From the fact that you could recognise a Peterhead lad by his socks,
> they were called bloo mogganers.  So all you Bloo Toon (Blue Town)
> descendants can all claim to be Blue Stocking aristocrats!
>
>         Bred and born in the bloo toon,
>
>                 Sam
>
> PS Once maternity hospital births became popular, most of the
> Peterhead
> residents were born in the Broch (Fraserburgh) and this was only
> solved
> once the Bloo Toon got its own Maternity hospital (in the 70s?)
>
> In message <8sm3bn+rscm@eGroups.com>, Linda Adam <taadam@...>
>
> writes
> >Can someone please shed light on the "nickname" for Peterhead being
> >"Bloo Toon". Would that mean "Blue Town" or named aptly because the
> >winds were always blowing in strongly from the sea?
> >
> >I'm also wondering whether someone may be able to shed some light on
> >the Birnies or others from Peterhead and their contributions during
> >the two World Wars?  A family member recalls that one or two of his
> >uncles (Birnie's) served on anti-submarine sweepers during WW I.
> >This
> >was, as can be imagined, a pretty hazardous occupation.  Do you
> >happen
> >to know where I could find data whether other family members served
> >in
> >other capacities?
> >
> >One final query. Family members in Canada and the U.S. had received
> >reports that Peterhead had been bombed during WW II. I have located a
>
> >page from the Buchan Observer dated Tuesday, November 12, 1940. It
> >gives details of "Bomb Havoc in NE Town" and names of seven
> >fatalities
> >of the bombing raid, one being James Birnie age 42.
> >
> >The family homestead was a large house on Prince St. built of solid
> >Peterhead granite which would probably have made a fantastic bomb
> >shelter. Information as to what buildings would have been used during
>
> >air raids would also be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Linda Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
> >
>
> --
> Sam
>
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Date: Mon Oct 30, 2000 8:58 pm
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#1182 From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
Date: Tue Oct 31, 2000 11:44 pm
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1851 Census.
Looking for Charles White father Alexander. Charles b. abt 1829-1831.
Deaths
No. 150 Charles White in 1868. Father Alexander White, mother's
m.s.Forrest.
[A Charles White m. Mary Divral in 1854 according to the IGI]

#1183 From: Linda Adam <taadam@...>
Date: Fri Nov 3, 2000 7:53 pm
Subject: Birnie
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Dear List Members,

I am searching for information on George Birnie from Peterhead who was
the Harbour Master of Peterhead for many years.

George had a son Alexander Birnie  b.?   d. 1944  who married Jane ?,
b. ?   d.1947. There were perhaps other children born to George.

     At a young age Alexander left for Western Australia to fish for
pearls (oysters would be correct). In Australia he lived in or near
Fremantle. I am not sure if Alexander married Jane in Scotland or in
Australia.

     He succeeded in making his fortune harvesting pearls but returned to
Scotland in the early 1900's where he purchased an estate named
"Wellbank" located almost due west of Sandford Bay, not a great distance
from Peterhead. Alexander was know to the Peterhead townsfolk as the
"Pearl King". There is a town named Wellbank but  it is not the same
place, as the town is quite a bit further south and in Angus rather than
Aberdeenshire.

     I have no idea if  he and Jane ? had any children.

     In 1924 Alexander paid a large sum to have a footbridge erected in
Peterhead to cross the River Ugie for access to the Golf Links. The
bridge is still in use and is named "The George Birnie Memorial
Bridge",  in memory of Alexander's father.

Since I have the years of death for both Alexander and Jane would there
be a possibility to obtain their death certificates from 1944 & 1947?

I wonder what happened to all of those pearls!!

Any suggestions would be appreciated, with thanks.

Linda Adam






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