Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes wrote:

Hi Wade, On the 1861 census of Peterhead Dis.18 Berry Den., there ia an
Emday Diverall age47 who is a widow to Wm Arbuthnot. Is she on the 1851
census??

Regards, Wade.

Joanne Pye wrote:

My apologies, but I forgot to respond to your question.  Yes I would be very interested to know of Ann Fraser's family from the 1851census, if you would be so kind.  Thank you very much for all of your help.

Regards, Wade.

Hi All,

For the next two weeks, I'm not ignoring your e-mails, but I'm on
holiday (not in Peterhead or any Genealogy).  Please don't let this stop
you from sending messages to the list, as others are always able to
help.

Regards, Wade.

Wade have a very good holiday and thanks for all the info you give.
Betty.

Please note new E Mail Address
Thanks
Robert Stewart
----- Original Message -----
From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
To: <Peterhead@onelist.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 8:54 AM
Subject: [Peterhead] 1871 Deaths M to Y


> From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
>
> Hi All,
>
> If you wish to have the full details of any of these death certificates,
> then please let me know the names and reference number that you are
> after.
>
> Please edit your message and do not repeat the list again.
>
> Regards, Wade.
>
> Surname First names YOB  YOD Ref. No. Father's name Mother’s m.s.
> Macaulay James 1861 1871 183 Macaulay, Charles Holmes
> Macgee Barbara Buchan 1870 1871 257 Macgee, George Buchan
> Mackay Christina 1867 1871 45 Mackay, William Dutch
> Mackie Alexander 1818 1871 65 Mackie, Alexander Louthwosa
> Manson John 1828 1871 46 Manson, Donald Monro
> Martin James Birnie 1870 1871 37 Martin, John Birnie
> Mason Barbara 1871 1871 141 Mason, Stephen Milne
> Mason Christian Duthie 1871 1871 242 Mason, Stephen Milne
> Matthew Jane 1780 1871 107 Hutton, John Alexander
> May James 1836 1871 22 May, John Stephen
> May James 1871 1871 140 May, John Milne
> McBain James 1870 1871 148 McBain, Alexander Soutter
> McDonald Elizabeth 1871 1871 95 McDonald, David Brown
> McDonald Jane 1871 1871 123 McDonald, John Robertson
> McDonald John 1791 1871 30 McDonald, Alexander Williamson
> McDonald William 1870 1871 263 McDonald, David Brown
> McGarrol George 1871 1871 247 McGarrol, James Clark
> McGregor Jessie-Gerry 1871 1871 98 McGregor, William McAllister
> McInnes Janet 1866 1871 187 McInnes, John Walker
> McIntosh John 1870 1871 206 McIntosh, James Fowler
> McKay Lachlan 1811 1871 259 McKay, Diogenes Chisholm
> McKenzie Mary 1871 1871 29 McKenzie, Alexander Burns
> McLean Betsy Buchan 1868 1871 240 McLean, John Strachan
> McLennan Catherine 1869 1871 28 McLennan, Donald Duncan, Catherine
> McLeod John 1868 1871 209 McLeod, William Cardno
> McMillan Alexander 1870 1871 161 McMillan, Alexander Norrie
> McMillan James 1870 1871 207 McMillan, Gordon Keith
> McPherson Thomas 1870 1871 124 McPherson, William Sutherland
> McWilliam Jane 1826 1871 75 Skene, Alexander Milne
> Mess William 1773 1871 101 Mess, William Smith
> Middleton Charlotte 1869 1871 208 Middleton, William Rennie
> Milne Alexander 1871 1871 230 Milne, Alexander Tait
> Milne Andrew 1870 1871 96 Milne, Andrew Boyner
> Milne James 1840 1871 100 Milne, James Webster
> Milne James 1870 1871 273 Milne, Forbes Stewart
> Milne James 1871 1871 125 Milne, James Allan
> Milne John Agnus 1871 1871 76 Unknown, Unknown Milne, Agnes
> Milne Margaret 1871 1871 83 Milne, Robert Morrison
> Milne Marian Fletcher 1871 1871 260 Milne, John Thomson
> Milne or Greig Jemima 1871 1871 85 Unknown, Unknown Milne, Christian
> Mitchell David 1814 1871 189 Mitchell, James Ewan
> Morice Janet 1817 1871 89 Morice, James Martin
> Morrison Andrew 1870 1871 238 Morrison, Andrew Tolmie
> Morrison Jane 1781 1871 220 Shewan, John Copland
> Morrison Sarah 1825 1871 132 Skinner, William McKechnie
> Mortimer Isabella 1870 1871 117 Mortimer, James Duncan
> Murray Alexander 1852 1871 202 Murray, Alexander Lumsden
> Murray Catherine Ann Jane 1870 1871 212 Murray, Alexander Connon
> Murray Jessie 1871 1871 94 Unknown, Unknown Murray, Margaret
> Murray Mary Ann Lumsden 1851 1871 51 Murray, Alexander Lumsden
> Murrison Alexander 1790 1871 102 Murison, Alexander Cow
> Mutch Ann 1836 1871 64 Davidson, James Bremner
> Mutch Thomas 1818 1871 118 Mutch, Robert Murray
> Napier Catherine 1815 1871 61 Milne, George Greig
> Niddrie Catherine 1870 1871 176 Niddrie, David Thomson
> Noble Charles 1847 1871 3 Noble, Charles Gordon
> Noble or Imlah Norman 1870 1871 115 Imlah, Norman Noble, Sophia
> Ogston Alexandrina 1848 1871 137 Ogston, Alexander Anderson
> Ogston Ann 1857 1871 145 Ogston, Alexander Leslie, Ann
> Ogston Isabella 1811 1871 146 Anderson, John Kay
> Park Alexander 1870 1871 215 Park, Alexander Stephen
> Paterson Isabella 1785 1871 31 Bruce, John Connon
> Paton Alexander Soutter 1869 1871 188 Paton, William Soutter
> Peace Ann 1787 1871 26 Clubb, James Middleton
> Philip Margaret Stott 1871 1871 175 Philip, John Sim
> Philips George 1870 1871 239 Philips, George Hay
> Philips Janet 1802 1871 80 Robertson, Alexander Gerry
> Pirie Jane Ingram 1867 1871 252 Pirie, William Wood
> Porter James 1869 1871 160 Porter, William McKenzie
> Prest Jane 1871 1871 127 Prest, John Falconer
> Reid Charlotte 1777 1871 44 Smith, Thomas Smith
> Reid Mary Law 1868 1871 9 Reid, James Henderson
> Reid William Penny Robertson 1869 1871 236 Reid, John Robertson
> Ritchie Eliza 1869 1871 266 Ritchie, Robert Reid
> Ritchie Isabella 1792 1871 67 Cow, William Hay
> Ritchie Jane 1863 1871 248 Ritchie, Robert Reid
> Robb John 1851 1871 82 Robb, Alexander Oman
> Robertson Isabella Mutch 1869 1871 159 Robertson, William Mutch
> Scott Isabella 1871 1871 186 Scott, Thomas Webster
> Shonach Helen 1869 1871 234 Shonach, John Philips
> Slesser John 1817 1871 63 Slesser, Alexander McKay
> Slessor William Greens 1871 1871 165 Unknown, Unknown Slesser, Mary Ann
> Smith Christian 1813 1871 18 Gray, John Clark
> Smith Cosmo 1800 1871 4 Smith, James Wilson
> Smith Elspet 1792 1871 15 Minto, James Johnston
> Smith Patience 1803 1871 25 Smith, Thomas Morgan
> Soutter Alexander 1797 1871 103 Soutter, Alexander Milne
> Soutter Isabella 1811 1871 162 Hutchison, John Robertson
> Stephen Alexander 1870 1871 255 Stephen, Alexander Stephen
> Stephen Alexander 1870 1871 237 Stephen, Alexander Stephen
> Stephen Elizabeth 1864 1871 105 Stephen, Robert Taylor
> Stephen Jane 1870 1871 219 Stephen, James Stephen
> Stephen Jane 1870 1871 182 Stephen, James Stephen
> Stephen Janet 1871 1871 210 Stephen, James Davidson
> Stephen Mary Ann 1870 1871 213 Stephen, Alexander Stephen
> Stephen Robert 1870 1871 185 Stephen, Alexander Sellar
> Stewart James 1846 1871 276 Stewart, James Ross
> Stewart Margaret 1827 1871 34 Middleton, Alexander Mitchell
> Stobbie Ann 1871 1871 7 Stobbie, James Honeyman
> Strachan Alexander 1818 1871 69 Strachan, George Bruce
> Strachan Andrew 1830 1871 113 Strachan, Andrew Tait
> Strachan Elizabeth 1870 1871 229 Strachan, James Buchan
> Strachan Elspet Smith 1869 1871 192 Strachan, George Urquhart
> Strachan George Murray 1871 1871 227 Strachan, James Gordon
> Strachan Helen Ann 1871 1871 221 Strachan, John Noble
> Strachan John 1871 1871 249 Strachan, Arthur Buchan
> Strachan Margaret Ann 1871 1871 274 Strachan, Andrew May
> Strachan Mary 1867 1871 203 Strachan, Andrew May
> Strachan William 1870 1871 126 Strachan, George Buchan
> Stuart Mary Annand 1852 1871 151 Stuart, Robert Middleton
> Sutherland Peter 1840 1871 156 Sutherland, Peter Ford
> Tait Joan 1780 1871 27 Cushan, Unknown Unknown
> Taylor John 1797 1871 6 Taylor, Robert Brown
> Taylor William Ritchie 1871 1871 178 Taylor, William Park
> Thain William 1801 1871 17 Thain, William Geddes
> Thoirs Willliam 1870 1871 174 Thoirs, James Centre
> Thom Catherine Turner 1871 1871 246 Thom, William Forbes
> Thom Margaret 1864 1871 78 Thom, William Ritchie
> Thom Robert 1871 1871 223 Thom, Robert McIntosh
> Thom William 1869 1871 191 Thom, William Forbes
> Thomson Alexander Mitchell 1871 1871 38 Thomson, William Buchan
> Thomson Barbara 1871 1871 39 Thomson, James Imlah
> Walker Eliza Ann Clerihew 1869 1871 269 Unknown, Unknown Walker, Ann
> Walker William 1843 1871 114 Walker, William McKinnon
> Walker William Gordon 1871 1871 56 Unknown, Unknown Walker, Mary
> Wallace John 1810 1871 149 Wallace, David Dinnes
> Warrender James 1871 1871 166 Unknown, Unknown Warrender, Jane
> Watson David 1871 1871 109 Watson, John Robertson
> Watt Elspet 1848 1871 53 Watt, James Gordon
> White Jane 1797 1871 233 Findlay, William Anderson
> Will Alexander 1871 1871 112 Unknown, Unknown Will, Mary
> Will George 1870 1871 19 Will, George Forsyth
> Will Mary 1801 1871 235 Davidson, Lewis Birnie
> Williamson George Aiken 1871 1871 21 Williamson, James McLeod
> Willox Alexander 1865 1871 129 Willox, John Bruce
> Willox Jessie 1820 1871 128 Robertson, James Lapsley
> Young Christina 1870 1871 136 Young, David Smith
> Young Jane 1811 1871 92 Morgan, Peter Sangster
> Youngson George 1804 1871 177 Youngson, Alexander Jaffray
> Youngson Joseph 1870 1871 155 Youngson, William Summers
> Yule Jessie 1849 1871 55 Yule, Alexander Urquhart
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To Alex.Ritchie.
Hi Alex.,
         Thanks for your messages.
  Two points arise from your information, first,from the burial
records you say "Alex.Innes buried in the Chapel below his father",
now from the Newburgh Burial Register it says "1813,April 4th.buried
John Innes,shipmaster from Aberdeen,he lies in the south side of his
father's lairstone". So that suggests to me that the grave must be
inside the Chapel.
    The other interesting point is that Helen Mitchell was the wife of
Alex.Innes whilst Ann Mitchell was the wife of John Innes  -  maybe a
connection there!
    Yes Alex. I've seen the Harbour Books and they are too late for
most of my research.The day I visited the Museum the book was lying
open at a page showing the arrival of my g.Grandfather's
vessel,the "Traveller",named of course after his own Father's long
time command.
   Hope this is of some interest.
   Best wishes, Malcolm.

----- Original Message -----
From: Niles & Becchi <woodford@...>
To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] John Bruce


> I have a Susan Bruce who was born in 1825 in Old Deer to a John Bruce who
> was a Cooper in Aberdeen (at least in 1847 when Susan Bruce was married.)
> She married a Gordon Scott.  They lived in Peterhead in the 1881 Census.
> (They were my g g grandparents.)  Any relations?
>
> Becchi Oesterle
> From Lynley Tilbury  i.l.tilbury@...
> To Niles & Becchi    woodford@...
.> RE GORDON SCOTT
.>.> My gg grandparents are Robert Kean and Helen Scott
>>  They had a son Gordon, and that made me wonder as the name seems not to
be in the Kean family
>>.anywhere else ., Can you tell me a bit more , what family they had
REGARDS LYNLEY
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes <bede@...>
> To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peterhead] John Bruce
>
>
> > Alex Ritchie wrote:
> > >
> > > For Dr.Elizabeth Holmes
> > >
> > > Hello Betty,
> > >                     I'm afraid that the John Bruce, nephew of John
> > > Hall is a mystery to me.
> > >                     My interest in John Hall was because his sister,
> > > Elspet Hall married John Birnie, whose family eventually married some
> > > of my Martin ancestors.
> > >                     The Halls came originally from Monquittar and
> > > moved to Boddam. John Hall and his father Charles Hall were both
> > > blacksmiths.
> > >                     I've tried to make the connection with the Bruces
> > > but with no success. John Hall may well have had more than one sister
> > > (Elspet) but I have no evidence of that. Either through a sister or
> > > his wife's family (his wife was Mary Philip) this John Bruce (Nephew)
> > > would have come.
> > >                     Sorry I can't be more helpful.
> > >
> > >                     Best
> > > Regards.......................................Alex Ritchie
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
> >
> > Thanks for the reply Alex, not of the names you mention are in my
> > Bruce/Diverall families.   Betty.
> >
> >
> >
> > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
>
>
>
>
> Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Alex Ritchie

To: Peterhead@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 6:06 AM

Subject: [Peterhead] John Bruce

For Dr.Elizabeth Holmes

 

Hello Betty,

                    I'm afraid that the John Bruce, nephew of John Hall is a mystery to me.

                    My interest in John Hall was because his sister, Elspet Hall married John Birnie, whose family eventually married some of my Martin ancestors.

                    The Halls came originally from Monquittar and moved to Boddam. John Hall and his father Charles Hall were both blacksmiths.

                    I've tried to make the connection with the Bruces but with no success. John Hall may well have had more than one sister (Elspet) but I have no evidence of that. Either through a sister or his wife's family (his wife was Mary Philip) this John Bruce (Nephew) would have come.

                    Sorry I can't be more helpful.

 

                    Best Regards.......................................Alex Ritchie

I whould like to know about the Martin Family and if any came to New Zealand as there is some related to the Kean Family

                 Lynley        i.l.tilbury@...

 

Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/

To Joanne Pye.
Hi Joanne,
          The "Traveller" you would be interested in was launched in
1815 as a general cargo ship of 400 tons.She was converted to a
whaler for the 1821 season and plyed in this trade until she was lost
in the Davis Straits in 1858. Although crushed in the ice and sunk,
all hands were saved.
      My ancestor George Simpson was master of her from 1826 to 1847
and quite successful with his catches.He died in 1848.
      Your ancestor James Kinloch would have sailed with a
Capt.A.Hutchison in 1852 season to Greenland waters where they took 7
whales and 1078 seals making 85 tons.
     A specksioneer ( there are various spellings)was the man in
charge of removing the blubber from the whales.
   Hope you find this of some interest.

  Regards,Malcolm Simpson.

To Malcolm.

Hi Malcolm!

Thank you so much for the information about the "Traveller", its amazing!
The fact that James was involved in the catching of whales is somewhat
ironic to me as my father campaigns against whale fishing!

Is there such information easily available for other Peterhead vessels, I
have ancestors who were on the "Dublin", "Ranger" and "Xanthus" from 1851 to
1854. They were James KINLOCH 2nd, and Charles MILNE.  Their occupations
were Line Coiler and one described just as a "Seaman".

Thank you again Malcolm, you have added more life to my family tree!
Joanne

Hello. New to the list in fact new to genealogy,My aunt Edith Cave
married William Kemp of Peterhead during the war 194* when he was
posted to sussex They returned to Peterhead and lived at #62 King ST
all their lives. I may be wrong about the number, it was a three or
four storey tenement building it seemed big when i was there in 1949
a
lad of seven.Edith died in the late seventies i believe i have no
information for uncle Bill,i feel sure they would have been buried in
Peterhead.Could someone suggest how i might find more information on
them.
                 thank you
                           John Cave in Canada

To Joanne Pye.
Hi Joanne,
          I don't know a great deal about the ships you mention.They
weren't among the famous and successful ones.
    I first note the "Dublin" in 1846 under a Capt.W.Mackie and in the
following seasons sailed under various Capt.Mackie's.One of my
g.Grandfathers, James Taylor sailed as an able-seaman on this vessel
during 1851 to 1854 so it is possible your relatives were shipmates
alongside him.
    The better known "Ranger" was lost in 1843 and a new one appears
about 1853 under a Capt.W.Cardno.
    The "Xanthus" appears about 1852 and sailed for a number of years
under a Capt.J. Reid.
     "The Peterhead Whaling Trade" by Alex.R.Buchan is a first class
book for information on that business.
     A "line coiler" as the title states coiled the rope attached to
the harpoons in the bow of the whale boats.This had to be done
meticulously or all hands could be pulled underwater and lost when
the whale "sounded".
    Hope this helps a little.
Regards, Malcolm.

To Malcolm,

Hi Malcolm,

Thank you once again for the information, it was extremely interesting.  It
was also nice to think that maybe our ancestors were friends on that vessel.

Thank you again, it is very much appreciated.
Joanne

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Thanks Alex,
                     Unfortunatley i don,t have any family left in Scotland, i
believe they died between 1975 - 1984. If they were cremated would i contact the
Registrar for burials just the same.
                                     Thanks once again.
                                                                 John Cave

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>       1. Bill Kemp
>            From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
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>    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:24:31 +0100
>    From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
> Subject: Bill Kemp
>
> For : John Cave
>
> Hi John,
>                 The obvious place for the information you require would be the
Peterhead Burial Records. The approximate dates of their deaths would be helpful
in deciding which Cemetery they are likely to be in.
>                 The Registrar in Peterhead would have to charge for doing a
search for you (They are forced to do this by the Local Government folks), so
you would want to avoid that. They are, however, very helpful with anyone
actually going there and allow access to search for yourself. I know this is
probably not an option for you since you live in Canada !!
>                 Do you know anyone in Peterhead who might be able to go and
search for you ?   I don't live in Peterhead any more although I do visit
occasionally.
>
>                 Best Regards.................................Alex Ritchie
>
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>    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:32:02 +0100
>    From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
> Subject: The OSCAR
>
> For : Malcolm Simpson
>
> Hello Again Malcolm, Thanks for you latest notes.
>
> I just realised that I have some extracts from the M.Is from Slains Cemetery
and there is one which says :
>
> "To Robert Walker, Died March 9th.1788 aged 72. Also George Walker his son
died on January 1st.1804 aged 59. Also his son William Walker died on board the
"Oscar" January 1st.1813 aged 21......."
>
> Just thought you might be interested.
>
> Kindest Regards......................................................Alex
Ritchie
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----- Original Message -----

From: Alex Ritchie

To: Peterhead@egroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:35 PM

Subject: [Peterhead] Cremations

For John Cave :

 

Hi John,

                 Sorry you've no one left in Peterhead.

                 If cremated there would obviously be no burial record. I suppose there would be records in the Crematorium in Aberdeen but I've never had to pursue anything like that myself.

                 There would, of course, be a Death Certificate and it would be resident at the Registrar in Peterhead. But, again, I expect they would require a search fee.

                 The other place would be New Register House in Edinburgh which keeps ALL Birth, Death & Marriage Certificates for the whole of Scotland. You can search their INDEXES on-line for a modest fee. I believe you get something like 20 pages of Indexes for around £6/ Once you have them on the INDEXES that points you straight to the certificate entry itself. Again. I've never used this facility, preferring just to go over to Edinburgh when I need to do some research.

 

                 ANYONE OUT THERE ABLE TO HELP JOHN REGARDING THE USE OF NEW REGISTER HOUSE'S ON-LINE SEARCH FACILITY ?

 

                 Best Regards...........................................Alex Ritchie

Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/

----- Original Message -----

From: Alex Ritchie

To: Peterhead@egroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:35 PM

Subject: [Peterhead] Cremations

For John Cave :

 

Hi John,

                 Sorry you've no one left in Peterhead.

                 If cremated there would obviously be no burial record. I suppose there would be records in the Crematorium in Aberdeen but I've never had to pursue anything like that myself.

                 There would, of course, be a Death Certificate and it would be resident at the Registrar in Peterhead. But, again, I expect they would require a search fee.

                 The other place would be New Register House in Edinburgh which keeps ALL Birth, Death & Marriage Certificates for the whole of Scotland. You can search their INDEXES on-line for a modest fee. I believe you get something like 20 pages of Indexes for around £6/ Once you have them on the INDEXES that points you straight to the certificate entry itself. Again. I've never used this facility, preferring just to go over to Edinburgh when I need to do some research.

 

                 ANYONE OUT THERE ABLE TO HELP JOHN REGARDING THE USE OF NEW REGISTER HOUSE'S ON-LINE SEARCH FACILITY ?

 

                 Best Regards...........................................Alex Ritchie

Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/

To all my fellow Peterhead Researchers

As a introduction, my name is Jim Allan and I reside in New York
State USA. For the passed three years I have been researching the
Allans of Peterhead. The first of my ancestors came from Longside to
Peterhead abt. 1798. Almost all the males were seaman, mates and
shipmasters working at the whaling trade. Another inportant part of
my family is the Wallaces. They first came to Peterhead from Dublin
Ireland in the early 1880s

I hope to have a web site on line by mid-September. At present I have
936 names and 216 families. As always there are many blanks. This is
where I hope you can help. If you have any Allans or Wallaces in your
family by marriage or other please let me know.

Between 1760 and 1899 there were about 180 Allans Born in Peterhead
and Longside. Many of the names I'm sure are part of my family but as
yet have not found the connection. I'm sure there is a shirt tail
cousin out there and it may be you.

Cheers
Jim

Hi John & Alex, I have used the New Register house indicies on line a
few times. Works quite well, BUT- if you want the FULL certificate or
OPR copy- the cost is £10.00!!!  Betty.

----- Original Message -----
From: <malcolm.simpson@...>
To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 6:36 AM
Subject: [Peterhead] Peterhead Whaling Ships


> To Joanne Pye.
> Hi Joanne,
>          I don't know a great deal about the ships you mention.They
> weren't among the famous and successful ones.
>    I first note the "Dublin" in 1846 under a Capt.W.Mackie and in the
> following seasons sailed under various Capt.Mackie's.One of my
> g.Grandfathers, James Taylor sailed as an able-seaman on this vessel
> during 1851 to 1854 so it is possible your relatives were shipmates
> alongside him.
>    The better known "Ranger" was lost in 1843 and a new one appears
> about 1853 under a Capt.W.Cardno.
>    The "Xanthus" appears about 1852 and sailed for a number of years
> under a Capt.J. Reid.
>     "The Peterhead Whaling Trade" by Alex.R.Buchan is a first class
> book for information on that business.
>     A "line coiler" as the title states coiled the rope attached to
> the harpoons in the bow of the whale boats.This had to be done
> meticulously or all hands could be pulled underwater and lost when
> the whale "sounded".
>    Hope this helps a little.
> Regards, Malcolm.
> Malcolm
>In regard to your E Mail about Wailing Ships , I to have someone on my
family tree who was on the
> The ships .
> Of the death cerft. of James Benzie I got this
> Reference 1901 - 027- MR226 [ MR means Minor Records]
> James Benzie 47 years Sepectioeer on board the ship Eclipse
> died on the 21st April 1901, while ship was at Lat. 59.12 North and Long.
08.34 West
> cause of Death heart disease, place of birth Peterhead , usual Residence
Peterhead
.> And so there is onther ship for to add to your list and you might be able
to find out about it for me
>>      Regards Lynley
>
>
> Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
>

I am trying to find which ship my grandmother would have sailed on in
1908, when she came to Canada.  She was from Peterhead and arrived in
Montreal, spring of 1908. What port would someone from Peterhead have
typically sailed from, back then? Any suggestions would be much
appreciated.
Thank-you, Jill

Many thanks for the advice and guidance in helping me trace what happened to
Uncle Bill and Aunt Edith. Is New register House indices the same as Scots
Origins, if different could you please give me their address as i have many
paths yet to travel in discovering my Scottish Heritage.
                         Thanks again         John Cave

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>       1. New Register house
>            From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
>       2. New Register House
>            From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
>       3. Re: Peterhead Whaling Ships
>            From: "I Tilbury" <i.l.tilbury@...>
>       4. Sailing to Canada
>            From: "Jill Haworth" <jial@...>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:24:10 -0300
>    From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
> Subject: New Register house
>
> Hi John & Alex, I have used the New Register house indicies on line a
> few times. Works quite well, BUT- if you want the FULL certificate or
> OPR copy- the cost is £10.00!!!  Betty.
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
>    Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:09:20 +0100
>    From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
> Subject: New Register House
>
> For John Cave & Others
>
> Thanks to all the folks who have responded with helpful information on NRH's
On-Line facility for John Cave.
> As I said myself in my original note, I would never be likely to use this
myself because I can go over to Edinburgh for a day if I need to do some
research.
>
> Nicholas Moir is right in what he says about just getting a name which could
be a common name with many possible candidates. But if it could be narrowed down
to a likely Registration & Entry Number, it might then be possible to take that
to the Registrar in Peterhead (King Street) and get a look at the
certificate....or, in John's case, have someone who might be in Peterhead
sometime to check it out for him with the Registrar. However, the problem is
that John is dealing with an approximate timeframe of the 1970s....too late for
NRH.
>
> How about if any of our subscribers who actually reside in Peterhead to take a
look for him ?   I know that "Kemp" would be a fairly common name but the other
name, if I recall, was much less common (at least for Peterhead).
>
> Thanks Again.....................................Alex Ritchie
>
> [This message contained attachments]
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
>    Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:52:30 +1200
>    From: "I Tilbury" <i.l.tilbury@...>
> Subject: Re: Peterhead Whaling Ships
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <malcolm.simpson@...>
> To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 6:36 AM
> Subject: [Peterhead] Peterhead Whaling Ships
>
> > To Joanne Pye.
> > Hi Joanne,
> >          I don't know a great deal about the ships you mention.They
> > weren't among the famous and successful ones.
> >    I first note the "Dublin" in 1846 under a Capt.W.Mackie and in the
> > following seasons sailed under various Capt.Mackie's.One of my
> > g.Grandfathers, James Taylor sailed as an able-seaman on this vessel
> > during 1851 to 1854 so it is possible your relatives were shipmates
> > alongside him.
> >    The better known "Ranger" was lost in 1843 and a new one appears
> > about 1853 under a Capt.W.Cardno.
> >    The "Xanthus" appears about 1852 and sailed for a number of years
> > under a Capt.J. Reid.
> >     "The Peterhead Whaling Trade" by Alex.R.Buchan is a first class
> > book for information on that business.
> >     A "line coiler" as the title states coiled the rope attached to
> > the harpoons in the bow of the whale boats.This had to be done
> > meticulously or all hands could be pulled underwater and lost when
> > the whale "sounded".
> >    Hope this helps a little.
> > Regards, Malcolm.
> > Malcolm
> >In regard to your E Mail about Wailing Ships , I to have someone on my
> family tree who was on the
> > The ships .
> > Of the death cerft. of James Benzie I got this
> > Reference 1901 - 027- MR226 [ MR means Minor Records]
> > James Benzie 47 years Sepectioeer on board the ship Eclipse
> > died on the 21st April 1901, while ship was at Lat. 59.12 North and Long.
> 08.34 West
> > cause of Death heart disease, place of birth Peterhead , usual Residence
> Peterhead
> .> And so there is onther ship for to add to your list and you might be able
> to find out about it for me
> >>      Regards Lynley
> >
> >
> > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
> >
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
>    Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 03:18:05 -0000
>    From: "Jill Haworth" <jial@...>
> Subject: Sailing to Canada
>
> I am trying to find which ship my grandmother would have sailed on in
> 1908, when she came to Canada.  She was from Peterhead and arrived in
> Montreal, spring of 1908. What port would someone from Peterhead have
> typically sailed from, back then? Any suggestions would be much
> appreciated.
> Thank-you, Jill
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________

John

They are except that Origins stops in 1899 for births and marriages and in
1924 for deaths whereas the computer search facility in New Register House
for personal callers runs up to 18/24 months ago.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Cave <cavej@...>
To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Digest Number 389


> Many thanks for the advice and guidance in helping me trace what happened
to Uncle Bill and Aunt Edith. Is New register House indices the same as
Scots Origins, if different could you please give me their address as i have
many paths yet to travel in discovering my Scottish Heritage.
>                         Thanks again         John Cave
>
> Peterhead@egroups.com wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > There are 4 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> >       1. New Register house
> >            From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
> >       2. New Register House
> >            From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
> >       3. Re: Peterhead Whaling Ships
> >            From: "I Tilbury" <i.l.tilbury@...>
> >       4. Sailing to Canada
> >            From: "Jill Haworth" <jial@...>
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:24:10 -0300
> >    From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
> > Subject: New Register house
> >
> > Hi John & Alex, I have used the New Register house indicies on line a
> > few times. Works quite well, BUT- if you want the FULL certificate or
> > OPR copy- the cost is £10.00!!!  Betty.
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 2
> >    Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:09:20 +0100
> >    From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
> > Subject: New Register House
> >
> > For John Cave & Others
> >
> > Thanks to all the folks who have responded with helpful information on
NRH's On-Line facility for John Cave.
> > As I said myself in my original note, I would never be likely to use
this myself because I can go over to Edinburgh for a day if I need to do
some research.
> >
> > Nicholas Moir is right in what he says about just getting a name which
could be a common name with many possible candidates. But if it could be
narrowed down to a likely Registration & Entry Number, it might then be
possible to take that to the Registrar in Peterhead (King Street) and get a
look at the certificate....or, in John's case, have someone who might be in
Peterhead sometime to check it out for him with the Registrar. However, the
problem is that John is dealing with an approximate timeframe of the
1970s....too late for NRH.
> >
> > How about if any of our subscribers who actually reside in Peterhead to
take a look for him ?   I know that "Kemp" would be a fairly common name but
the other name, if I recall, was much less common (at least for Peterhead).
> >
> > Thanks Again.....................................Alex Ritchie
> >
> > [This message contained attachments]
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 3
> >    Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:52:30 +1200
> >    From: "I Tilbury" <i.l.tilbury@...>
> > Subject: Re: Peterhead Whaling Ships
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <malcolm.simpson@...>
> > To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 6:36 AM
> > Subject: [Peterhead] Peterhead Whaling Ships
> >
> > > To Joanne Pye.
> > > Hi Joanne,
> > >          I don't know a great deal about the ships you mention.They
> > > weren't among the famous and successful ones.
> > >    I first note the "Dublin" in 1846 under a Capt.W.Mackie and in the
> > > following seasons sailed under various Capt.Mackie's.One of my
> > > g.Grandfathers, James Taylor sailed as an able-seaman on this vessel
> > > during 1851 to 1854 so it is possible your relatives were shipmates
> > > alongside him.
> > >    The better known "Ranger" was lost in 1843 and a new one appears
> > > about 1853 under a Capt.W.Cardno.
> > >    The "Xanthus" appears about 1852 and sailed for a number of years
> > > under a Capt.J. Reid.
> > >     "The Peterhead Whaling Trade" by Alex.R.Buchan is a first class
> > > book for information on that business.
> > >     A "line coiler" as the title states coiled the rope attached to
> > > the harpoons in the bow of the whale boats.This had to be done
> > > meticulously or all hands could be pulled underwater and lost when
> > > the whale "sounded".
> > >    Hope this helps a little.
> > > Regards, Malcolm.
> > > Malcolm
> > >In regard to your E Mail about Wailing Ships , I to have someone on my
> > family tree who was on the
> > > The ships .
> > > Of the death cerft. of James Benzie I got this
> > > Reference 1901 - 027- MR226 [ MR means Minor Records]
> > > James Benzie 47 years Sepectioeer on board the ship Eclipse
> > > died on the 21st April 1901, while ship was at Lat. 59.12 North and
Long.
> > 08.34 West
> > > cause of Death heart disease, place of birth Peterhead , usual
Residence
> > Peterhead
> > .> And so there is onther ship for to add to your list and you might be
able
> > to find out about it for me
> > >>      Regards Lynley
> > >
> > >
> > > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
> > >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 4
> >    Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 03:18:05 -0000
> >    From: "Jill Haworth" <jial@...>
> > Subject: Sailing to Canada
> >
> > I am trying to find which ship my grandmother would have sailed on in
> > 1908, when she came to Canada.  She was from Peterhead and arrived in
> > Montreal, spring of 1908. What port would someone from Peterhead have
> > typically sailed from, back then? Any suggestions would be much
> > appreciated.
> > Thank-you, Jill
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
> Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
>
>