Hello

A friend brought over some fabulous brayers that he says he got from a
company called Lawrence (?) in England. Does anyone know of this company?
I'm wondering if they make letterpress rollers...??

Katie Harper
Cincinnati, OH

That's probably T.N.Lawrence & Son Ltd., 119 Clerkenwell Road, London
EC1R 5BY (tel 071 242 3534).

They sell paper of all sorts and materials for wood engraving, but I
don't know if they make printing rollers.

Yehuda Miklaf
Jerusalem

A source for marvellous rollers is

http://www.takachpress.com/

I use one with a 35 durometer when printing letterpress.  These are the
rolling-pin style favoured by Rummonds, harder and of larger diameter than
those sold by Lawrence in England.

Michael Barnes

Are you referring to press rollers or to brayers?




Katie Harper
Ars Brevis Press
Cincinnati, OH
513-233-9588




> From: "Michael Barnes" <mjbarnes@...>
> Reply-To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:39:20 -0800
> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PPLetterpress] Letterpress resources
>
> A source for marvellous rollers is
>
> http://www.takachpress.com/
>
> I use one with a 35 durometer when printing letterpress.  These are the
> rolling-pin style favoured by Rummonds, harder and of larger diameter than
> those sold by Lawrence in England.
>
> Michael Barnes
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I got an update on the Lawrence company from a printing friend:

the company is T N Lawrence url is        Lawrence.co.uk

they are no longer in London but on the coast now so It is impossible
for friends to pick items up from them now but I experience no shipping
problems from their new location.

They list the brayers in their catalogue which is quite extensive.
they describe the two types of materials the brayers are now made out of.

Both of these types of materials are of a type that does not
disintegrate, the way their previous brayers did.

Jack


Katie Harper
Ars Brevis Press
Cincinnati, OH
513-233-9588




> From: Yehuda Miklaf <mfritz@...>
> Reply-To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:51:52 +0200
> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Roller company in UK
>
> That's probably T.N.Lawrence & Son Ltd., 119 Clerkenwell Road, London
> EC1R 5BY (tel 071 242 3534).
>
> They sell paper of all sorts and materials for wood engraving, but I
> don't know if they make printing rollers.
>
> Yehuda Miklaf
> Jerusalem
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I use a press roller from Takach, almost as big as the bed of my press. In
fact I had to chop off a bit of the handles to keep them from hitting the
platen and the tympan. But I saw brayers on the Takach web page too, at
least mention of them. M.B.


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>From: Katie Harper <knharper@...>
>To: <PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Letterpress resources
>Date: Tue, Feb 12, 2002, 5:04 PM
>

> Are you referring to press rollers or to brayers?
>
>
>
>
> Katie Harper
> Ars Brevis Press
> Cincinnati, OH
> 513-233-9588
>
>
>
>
>> From: "Michael Barnes" <mjbarnes@...>
>> Reply-To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:39:20 -0800
>> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [PPLetterpress] Letterpress resources
>>
>> A source for marvellous rollers is
>>
>> http://www.takachpress.com/
>>
>> I use one with a 35 durometer when printing letterpress.  These are the
>> rolling-pin style favoured by Rummonds, harder and of larger diameter than
>> those sold by Lawrence in England.
>>
>> Michael Barnes
>>
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--- In PPLetterpress@y..., "Michael Barnes" <mjbarnes@t...> wrote:
> A source for marvellous rollers is
>
> http://www.takachpress.com/
>
> I use one with a 35 durometer when printing letterpress.  These are the
> rolling-pin style favoured by Rummonds, harder and of larger diameter than
> those sold by Lawrence in England.
>
> Michael Barnes

Michael

Last year a friend gave me a durometer so now I check my rollers from
time to time. On one of my presses the rollers are two years old and
they were specked at A25 (Vandercook recommended A20). They are now
at A38. My roller rep says A50 is about it. He says at A50 the
rollers "fail to split the ink altogether." Doesn't matter if use
them or not, as this press was little used, the rollers just keep
reacting to the environment. Had a collotype project going about
three years ago where we bought three rollers of the kind you mention
at a variety of durometer settings. These are all now settling in at
about A35 to A40. Don't know if this means there is a natural stop in
certain environments. I've some old rollers (maybe fourteen years old)
that were quite well treated and they measure in at about A42.

Then again, since everything always seems to be falling to the same relative
spot maybe there was a good reason I was given that durometer!!!

Wonder if rollers should be purchased fairly soft and left to age and
changed out every so often? Anyone know more about this?

Gerald

I too use Takach rollers, and am willing to pay the rather hefty duties and
importing costs because they are such great tools.



Mark Attwood

The Artists' Press
Box 623
Newtown
2113
South Africa

Tel. +27 11 836 5474
fax. +27 11 836 6858
mark@...


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>From: "Michael Barnes" <mjbarnes@...>
>To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Letterpress resources
>Date: Wed, Feb 13, 2002, 3:03 am
>

> I use a press roller from Takach, almost as big as the bed of my press. In
> fact I had to chop off a bit of the handles to keep them from hitting the
> platen and the tympan. But I saw brayers on the Takach web page too, at
> least mention of them. M.B.
>
>
> ----------
>>From: Katie Harper <knharper@...>
>>To: <PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com>
>>Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Letterpress resources
>>Date: Tue, Feb 12, 2002, 5:04 PM
>>
>
>> Are you referring to press rollers or to brayers?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Katie Harper
>> Ars Brevis Press
>> Cincinnati, OH
>> 513-233-9588
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: "Michael Barnes" <mjbarnes@...>
>>> Reply-To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:39:20 -0800
>>> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: [PPLetterpress] Letterpress resources
>>>
>>> A source for marvellous rollers is
>>>
>>> http://www.takachpress.com/
>>>
>>> I use one with a 35 durometer when printing letterpress.  These are the
>>> rolling-pin style favoured by Rummonds, harder and of larger diameter than
>>> those sold by Lawrence in England.
>>>
>>> Michael Barnes
>>>
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UV exposure also affects durometer. While storing my press I made the
mistake of leaving it near a window. On my press the one form roller that
was exposed to sunlight is already at 35 Shore A while the form roller that
was hidden from sun is still at its original 25 Shore A. This sun-aging was
confirmed by Bruce at Brown Regrinding. I should have run the press with sun
block before letting it sit!

Harold

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Boxcar Press
Fine Printing and Binding ~ Digital Letterpress Supplies
640 Fellows Avenue ~ Syracuse, NY 13210
www.boxcarpress.com
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

All of this discussion about roller hardness is very useful, but I confess
to being a bit confused.

I have some rollers on a newly acquired Vandercook that are now obviously
too hard and are not inking well at all. Instead of getting hard, I have
some rollers on my C&P Craftsman that I suspect are getting soft and tacky,
"reverting to liquid" as Fritz Klinke says at NA Graphics. I have seen the
results of this reversion when I opened a drawer of a previous Vandercook to
find some roller cores and a puddle of the dreaded "Blue Goo" that was all
over everything and took forever to clean up.

What I'm curious about is why rollers sometimes turn to goo, while others
get hard. I'm guessing this has to do with what the rollers are made of
along with, perhaps, the conditions under which they are kept. My friend who
uses the Lawrence brayers says they are made of Durathene, which is not
supposed to get hard (crystalize) or revert, and has a 23-30 nominal shore
hardness.

So what is the ideal hardness for new rollers? Is it the same for all
presses/rollers? What is the ideal roller material? Does one sacrifice
longevity for price?


Katie Harper
Ars Brevis Press
Cincinnati, OH
513-233-9588




> From: "bielerpr" <bieler@...>
> Reply-To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 03:43:24 -0000
> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Letterpress resources
>
> --- In PPLetterpress@y..., "Michael Barnes" <mjbarnes@t...> wrote:
>> A source for marvellous rollers is
>>
>> http://www.takachpress.com/
>>
>> I use one with a 35 durometer when printing letterpress.  These are the
>> rolling-pin style favoured by Rummonds, harder and of larger diameter than
>> those sold by Lawrence in England.
>>
>> Michael Barnes
>
> Michael
>
> Last year a friend gave me a durometer so now I check my rollers from
> time to time. On one of my presses the rollers are two years old and
> they were specked at A25 (Vandercook recommended A20). They are now
> at A38. My roller rep says A50 is about it. He says at A50 the
> rollers "fail to split the ink altogether." Doesn't matter if use
> them or not, as this press was little used, the rollers just keep
> reacting to the environment. Had a collotype project going about
> three years ago where we bought three rollers of the kind you mention
> at a variety of durometer settings. These are all now settling in at
> about A35 to A40. Don't know if this means there is a natural stop in
> certain environments. I've some old rollers (maybe fourteen years old)
> that were quite well treated and they measure in at about A42.
>
> Then again, since everything always seems to be falling to the same relative
> spot maybe there was a good reason I was given that durometer!!!
>
> Wonder if rollers should be purchased fairly soft and left to age and
> changed out every so often? Anyone know more about this?
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
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I am considering purchase of a Challenge 15MP proofing press, primarily
for editioning relief prints (wood blocks, wood-engravings, and
resingrave).  Comments from anyone using this press for photo polymers
plates are welcomed.  I have found very few references to the press or
its manufacturer on web-sites.
Bryce Erickson
Saskatoon SK Canada

I believe this is the Challenge copy of the Vandercook SP-15. Vandercook
sued Challenge for patent infringement about 1965 and won the case, and I
believe that this caused Challenge to quit the proof press business. As a
company, they are still very much in business, but produce no letterpress
printing products and offer no support for any of their former letterpress
printing line. They claim not to have any records, plans, or support parts.
Some years ago there was a fire that destroyed part of their plant, and
apparently this took out some of this material.

As far as the press is concerned, they were well made and performed well.
The critical problem is that there is no source for parts for any Challenge
press, except rollers. We are able to supply Vandercook parts and supplies,
and have all the blueprints, but the equal does not exist for Challenge.

Fritz Klinke, NA Graphics
1314 Greene Street, P.O. Box 467
Silverton, Colorado 81433 USA
970-387-0212, fax 970-387-0127
nagraph@...

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Subject: [PPLetterpress] Challenge 15MP


> I am considering purchase of a Challenge 15MP proofing press, primarily
> for editioning relief prints (wood blocks, wood-engravings, and
> resingrave).  Comments from anyone using this press for photo polymers
> plates are welcomed.  I have found very few references to the press or
> its manufacturer on web-sites.
> Bryce Erickson
> Saskatoon SK Canada
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Martyn,
I think we have met at the Oxford Fair.
I have just bought a Polimero (Dutch) auto wash polymer platemaker. Am
already getting excellent results. perhaps I could do them for you
(perhaps!) I can take Qwark files via e-mail/ISDN.
Give me a ring if you would like to discuss further.
Best wishes
Tim
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tel: 01667 454508  fax:01667 454509
www.piccolopress.co.uk

From: "oldschoolpress" <mao@...>
Reply-To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:14:17 -0000
To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PPLetterpress] UK plate makers


Hi

Have just joined this group - am looking for someone to make/process
plates for me in the UK, from supplied copy - I want something ready
to print from. I have kpe graphics from the database - any other
offerings gratefully accepted.

Martyn Ould
The Old School Press


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Martyn,
I think we have met at the Oxford Fair.
I have just bought a Polimero (Dutch) auto wash polymer platemaker. Am
already getting excellent results. perhaps I could do them for you
(perhaps!) I can take Qwark files via e-mail/ISDN.
Give me a ring if you would like to discuss further.
Best wishes
Tim
--
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tel: 01667 454508  fax:01667 454509
www.piccolopress.co.uk

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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:14:17 -0000
To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PPLetterpress] UK plate makers


Hi

Have just joined this group - am looking for someone to make/process
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to print from. I have kpe graphics from the database - any other
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The Old School Press


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> Have just joined this group - am looking for someone to make/process
> plates for me in the UK, from supplied copy - I want something ready
> to print from. I have kpe graphics from the database - any other
> offerings gratefully accepted.
>
> Martyn Ould
> The Old School Press

Martyn

Hope you found someone!!!

I'd appreciate knowing the whereabouts of various processors, equipment/plate
manufacturers/distributors, etc (from anyone!!!) so that the information can
be added to the database tables and shared with the members.

All best

Gerald

Well since you ask Gerald I have a Linotronic 560 which outputs film
negatives and positives, emulsion up or down. I have a service bureau in
Vancouver, Canada. Since I am a book lover myself and a letterpress printer
I'd welcome making the films for other book projects too, from all major
software, Mac and PC, including pdf.

We can impose of course and easily print films 17 by 22 inches. Minimum
resolution 2540 dpi, since I prefer the look of text at that resolution
rather than anything lower.

The enfeebled Canadian dollar makes print services done in this country
pretty attractive to Americans.

I'll be in Palm Springs next week and if I come to LA will be dropping into
Bieler Press to buy your book. Also I may bring a friend who owns Red Heifer
Press in LA, has an interest in and indeed a need for fine press. His URL is
http://www.redheiferpress.com/index.html.

Michael Barnes

----------
>From: "bielerpr" <bieler@...>
>To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: UK plate makers
>Date: Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 2:49 PM
>

>> Have just joined this group - am looking for someone to make/process
>> plates for me in the UK, from supplied copy - I want something ready
>> to print from. I have kpe graphics from the database - any other
>> offerings gratefully accepted.
>>
>> Martyn Ould
>> The Old School Press
>
> Martyn
>
> Hope you found someone!!!
>
> I'd appreciate knowing the whereabouts of various processors, equipment/plate
> manufacturers/distributors, etc (from anyone!!!) so that the information can
> be added to the database tables and shared with the members.
>
> All best
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
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Dear Michael and others

I have completed the "long awaited" (!!!) article on the letterpress
configuration of digital type, "An Affinity By Design: Digital Type
Foundries Respond to Letterpress." This is off to _Parenthesis_ and
should be published in late spring or early summer. The journal is a
benefit of membership in the Fine Press Book Association.

www.fpba.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FinePressBook

A good part of the article discusses the font releases of PPL members
Justin Howes of H W Caslon and Company Limited (Founder's Caslon) and
Lui Karner & Waltraud Stefan of dfTYPE (Rialto). These are noble and
significant achievements and I hope you will support their efforts.

jhowes@...
www.hwcaslon.com

dftype@...

Keep the faith

Gerald

Haven't posted this here before, though it has been listed elsewhere,
but my landlord would very much like it if I would sell off my
treasured lots of Barcham Green paper. I have Charter Oak, Hayle, and
Tovil.

Please contact me OFFLIST if interested.

All best

Gerald

opportunity for someone...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kei Constantinov [mailto:kei@...]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:43 PM
> > Subject: Vitosha Cultural Center, Ann Arbor, Michigan
>
>
> Dear Printmakers,
>
> Vitosha Cultural Center is located in an historic church complex on the U.
> of M. campus in Michigan.  We have housing for artists, instructors and
> other leaders in the printmaking community, as well as Blue Bird Gallery
> and a formal concert hall with pipe organ and baby grand piano.  I am
> presently setting up to teach book arts-related xylography, with metal
type
> on a Vandercook press.
>
> Please let me know whether you are available to conduct a workshop, or
> whether you know anyone who is competent to be an artist-in-residence
here.
>
> Visit our websites: www.bbonline.com & www.vitosha.org to see what we're
> offering.  We look forward to hearing from you.
>
>
>
> Kei Constantinov
> Co-Proprietor
> Vitosha Guest Haus
> 1917 Washtenaw Avenue
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104
> tel: (734) 741-4969
> fax: (734) 741-4963
> www.vitosha.org
>
>
>
>

The Rialto specimen book can be downloaded at

http://www.druckschriften.de/Druckschriften2/Typo-Top-100/Schriften/
df-type/df-type.html

Gerald


--- In PPLetterpress@y..., "bielerpr" <bieler@w...> wrote:
> Dear Michael and others
>
> I have completed the "long awaited" (!!!) article on the letterpress
> configuration of digital type, "An Affinity By Design: Digital Type
> Foundries Respond to Letterpress." This is off to _Parenthesis_ and
> should be published in late spring or early summer. The journal is a
> benefit of membership in the Fine Press Book Association.
>
> www.fpba.com
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FinePressBook
>
> A good part of the article discusses the font releases of PPL members
> Justin Howes of H W Caslon and Company Limited (Founder's Caslon) and
> Lui Karner & Waltraud Stefan of dfTYPE (Rialto). These are noble and
> significant achievements and I hope you will support their efforts.
>
> jhowes@j...
> www.hwcaslon.com
>
> dftype@u...
>
> Keep the faith
>
> Gerald

My old Apple Laserwriter has put in many good years of service, but is
finally dying.  I tried the HP 1200 only to find that graphics mostly won't
print via USB and I'd need to buy an extra ethernet card for the printer.
That was annoying enough, but the machine itself did not impress me at all;
seemed to be very cheaply made. I ended up taking it back to the store,
where they couldn't care less about annoying Macintosh users and their silly
attitude about graphics...

Anyway, I'm looking for recommendations for laser printers from members of
this group, who are mostly high end users. Several have recommended the HP
printers, but I'd like to hear more opinions, if any of you care to email me
offlist.

Thanks!




Katie Harper
Ars Brevis Press
Cincinnati, OH
513-233-9588




> From: "bielerpr" <bieler@...>
> Reply-To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 05:24:24 -0000
> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: digital type
>
> The Rialto specimen book can be downloaded at
>
> http://www.druckschriften.de/Druckschriften2/Typo-Top-100/Schriften/
> df-type/df-type.html
>
> Gerald
>
>
> --- In PPLetterpress@y..., "bielerpr" <bieler@w...> wrote:
>> Dear Michael and others
>>
>> I have completed the "long awaited" (!!!) article on the letterpress
>> configuration of digital type, "An Affinity By Design: Digital Type
>> Foundries Respond to Letterpress." This is off to _Parenthesis_ and
>> should be published in late spring or early summer. The journal is a
>> benefit of membership in the Fine Press Book Association.
>>
>> www.fpba.com
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FinePressBook
>>
>> A good part of the article discusses the font releases of PPL members
>> Justin Howes of H W Caslon and Company Limited (Founder's Caslon) and
>> Lui Karner & Waltraud Stefan of dfTYPE (Rialto). These are noble and
>> significant achievements and I hope you will support their efforts.
>>
>> jhowes@j...
>> www.hwcaslon.com
>>
>> dftype@u...
>>
>> Keep the faith
>>
>> Gerald
>
>
>
>
>
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Katie

Yep, seems we are high end here, relatively speaking. Use an HP 5000N
myself. Love it. Has a duplexor, runs at true 1200 dpi, or so I've
been led to believe. Never a jam. Great registration. Crisp imaging.
Not the best at graphics but I don't do much in the way of graphics.
I'm just a b/w kind of a guy.

You might want to post this over at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital-fineart/

This is the kind of thing they talk about, its the only thing they
talk about, and do they ever talk. Useful groupsite.

Gerald

--- In PPLetterpress@y..., Katie Harper <knharper@f...> wrote:
> My old Apple Laserwriter has put in many good years of service, but is
> finally dying.  I tried the HP 1200 only to find that graphics mostly won't
> print via USB and I'd need to buy an extra ethernet card for the printer.
> That was annoying enough, but the machine itself did not impress me at all;
> seemed to be very cheaply made. I ended up taking it back to the store,
> where they couldn't care less about annoying Macintosh users and their silly
> attitude about graphics...
>
> Anyway, I'm looking for recommendations for laser printers from members of
> this group, who are mostly high end users. Several have recommended the HP
> printers, but I'd like to hear more opinions, if any of you care to email me
> offlist.
>
> Thanks!

If it is a black and white laser printer you are looking for, I have an HP 2100
Laserjet.
and t is really a very good printer. I have had it for about 2 1/2 years with no
problems whatsoever.
Resolution is 1200 dpi, prints graphics perfectly (is Mac compatible...so am I).
They ar pretty reasonable I think for a good quality laser printer.

Christine


> ____________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:21:53 -0500
>    From: Katie Harper <knharper@...>
> Subject: Laser Printers
>
> My old Apple Laserwriter has put in many good years of service, but is
> finally dying.  I tried the HP 1200 only to find that graphics mostly won't
> print via USB and I'd need to buy an extra ethernet card for the printer.
> That was annoying enough, but the machine itself did not impress me at all;
> seemed to be very cheaply made. I ended up taking it back to the store,
> where they couldn't care less about annoying Macintosh users and their silly
> attitude about graphics...
>
> Anyway, I'm looking for recommendations for laser printers from members of
> this group, who are mostly high end users. Several have recommended the HP
> printers, but I'd like to hear more opinions, if any of you care to email me
> offlist.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Katie Harper
> Ars Brevis Press
> Cincinnati, OH
> 513-233-9588
>

Katie and Philip-

I've been out of town for a month and apologize for the tardiness of my
question. In the discussion below, are you referring to printing
intaglio on a letterpress when you speak of printing "full reverse"?

Marnie

-----Original Message-----
From: philip gallo [mailto:phil@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 5:36 PM
To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Printing troubles?


I've been running full reverse plates as large as 11x14 using Daniel
Smith
Velvet Black #65,
with the addition of Setswell Compound, a flow agent, also available
from
Daniel Smith.
The standard formulation calls for not more than ten-percent additive to
the
ink.

I've been printing Rives BFK, Arches Cover, Somerset Velvet and Lana Lin
de Pur
dampened
from linoleum blocks, 1/4-inch magnesium plates, as well as polymer.

I sometimes hit them twice, but generally speaking not. I am running
these on a
Universal III,
and it does require re-inking after each impression. I also pre-ink at
least
once, sometimes twice.

Fine detail in the reverse causes severe problems, and would call for
less
dampening and
somewhat less Setswell Compound. If you insist on such fine detail, you
might
try printing
out on newsprint after each impression to clean the plate from excess
ink.

The full reverse requires a great deal of impression; sufficient that it
might
require
an initial two-handed crank.

All best

Philip Gallo at The Hermetic Press






Katie Harper wrote:

> Just had a workshop group of folks printing from polymer plates, with
mixed
> results. In most cases, when folks proofed on coated stock, they'd
like what
> they'd see and then when they tried to print on the run stock (usually
> uncoated, ranging from Rives printmaking paper to card stock), almost
all
> were disappointed with the results. Even wetting the Rives slightly
didn't
> seem to give us a richer black in the larger solids.
>
> In some cases, what was being asked of the process was a bit
impossible.
> Fine detail in some areas with good blacks in the large solid areas.
Plates
> that contained both were especially problematic. However, I think that
we
> should have had a bit more satisfaction than we did.
>
> I attributed some of the dissatisfaction on the uncoated stock to the
wrong
> ink. We used Inmont Midnight Black, an ink I inherited with a load of
> letterpress equipment last summer. It has worked quite nicely in the
past
> with type, but doesn't seem to do well with images, especially with
larger
> solids on uncoated stock. I think that some of the problems also might
have
> been due to some bad rollers on a "new" Vandercook that I recently
got. The
> rollers are smooth enough, but I suspect they have grown hard over the
> years, perhaps leading to the obvious roller slur that we got.
>
> I know there has been some discussion about inks on this list in the
past,
> and I'm going to be ordering some "real" letterpress black ink; but
I'm
> wondering if any letterpress ink is capable of doing what I mention
above:
> give good blacks and yet hold fine detail on uncoated stocks.
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
> Katie Harper
> Ars Brevis Press
> Cincinnati, OH
> 513-233-9588
>
>
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I don't know about Philip, but when I say "reverse" I mean white type on a
black background. It is not an intaglio process; the ink is still on the top
of the form and not below the surface, as in intaglio.


Katie Harper
Ars Brevis Press
Cincinnati, OH
513-233-9588




> From: "Marnie Powers-Torrey" <marnie.torrey@...>
> Reply-To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:13:48 -0700
> To: <PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [PPLetterpress] Printing troubles?
>
> Katie and Philip-
>
> I've been out of town for a month and apologize for the tardiness of my
> question. In the discussion below, are you referring to printing
> intaglio on a letterpress when you speak of printing "full reverse"?
>
> Marnie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: philip gallo [mailto:phil@...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 5:36 PM
> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Printing troubles?
>
>
> I've been running full reverse plates as large as 11x14 using Daniel
> Smith
> Velvet Black #65,
> with the addition of Setswell Compound, a flow agent, also available
> from
> Daniel Smith.
> The standard formulation calls for not more than ten-percent additive to
> the
> ink.
>
> I've been printing Rives BFK, Arches Cover, Somerset Velvet and Lana Lin
> de Pur
> dampened
> from linoleum blocks, 1/4-inch magnesium plates, as well as polymer.
>
> I sometimes hit them twice, but generally speaking not. I am running
> these on a
> Universal III,
> and it does require re-inking after each impression. I also pre-ink at
> least
> once, sometimes twice.
>
> Fine detail in the reverse causes severe problems, and would call for
> less
> dampening and
> somewhat less Setswell Compound. If you insist on such fine detail, you
> might
> try printing
> out on newsprint after each impression to clean the plate from excess
> ink.
>
> The full reverse requires a great deal of impression; sufficient that it
> might
> require
> an initial two-handed crank.
>
> All best
>
> Philip Gallo at The Hermetic Press
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Katie Harper wrote:
>
>> Just had a workshop group of folks printing from polymer plates, with
> mixed
>> results. In most cases, when folks proofed on coated stock, they'd
> like what
>> they'd see and then when they tried to print on the run stock (usually
>> uncoated, ranging from Rives printmaking paper to card stock), almost
> all
>> were disappointed with the results. Even wetting the Rives slightly
> didn't
>> seem to give us a richer black in the larger solids.
>>
>> In some cases, what was being asked of the process was a bit
> impossible.
>> Fine detail in some areas with good blacks in the large solid areas.
> Plates
>> that contained both were especially problematic. However, I think that
> we
>> should have had a bit more satisfaction than we did.
>>
>> I attributed some of the dissatisfaction on the uncoated stock to the
> wrong
>> ink. We used Inmont Midnight Black, an ink I inherited with a load of
>> letterpress equipment last summer. It has worked quite nicely in the
> past
>> with type, but doesn't seem to do well with images, especially with
> larger
>> solids on uncoated stock. I think that some of the problems also might
> have
>> been due to some bad rollers on a "new" Vandercook that I recently
> got. The
>> rollers are smooth enough, but I suspect they have grown hard over the
>> years, perhaps leading to the obvious roller slur that we got.
>>
>> I know there has been some discussion about inks on this list in the
> past,
>> and I'm going to be ordering some "real" letterpress black ink; but
> I'm
>> wondering if any letterpress ink is capable of doing what I mention
> above:
>> give good blacks and yet hold fine detail on uncoated stocks.
>>
>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>
>> Katie Harper
>> Ars Brevis Press
>> Cincinnati, OH
>> 513-233-9588
>>
>>
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Katie-

Thanks for the response. That's what I mean by reverse also, but wasn't
clear on why Philip felt that that would need more pressure.

Marnie

-----Original Message-----
From: Katie Harper [mailto:knharper@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:22 PM
To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Printing troubles?


I don't know about Philip, but when I say "reverse" I mean white type on
a
black background. It is not an intaglio process; the ink is still on the
top
of the form and not below the surface, as in intaglio.


Katie Harper
Ars Brevis Press
Cincinnati, OH
513-233-9588




> From: "Marnie Powers-Torrey" <marnie.torrey@...>
> Reply-To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:13:48 -0700
> To: <PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [PPLetterpress] Printing troubles?
>
> Katie and Philip-
>
> I've been out of town for a month and apologize for the tardiness of
my
> question. In the discussion below, are you referring to printing
> intaglio on a letterpress when you speak of printing "full reverse"?
>
> Marnie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: philip gallo [mailto:phil@...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 5:36 PM
> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Printing troubles?
>
>
> I've been running full reverse plates as large as 11x14 using Daniel
> Smith
> Velvet Black #65,
> with the addition of Setswell Compound, a flow agent, also available
> from
> Daniel Smith.
> The standard formulation calls for not more than ten-percent additive
to
> the
> ink.
>
> I've been printing Rives BFK, Arches Cover, Somerset Velvet and Lana
Lin
> de Pur
> dampened
> from linoleum blocks, 1/4-inch magnesium plates, as well as polymer.
>
> I sometimes hit them twice, but generally speaking not. I am running
> these on a
> Universal III,
> and it does require re-inking after each impression. I also pre-ink at
> least
> once, sometimes twice.
>
> Fine detail in the reverse causes severe problems, and would call for
> less
> dampening and
> somewhat less Setswell Compound. If you insist on such fine detail,
you
> might
> try printing
> out on newsprint after each impression to clean the plate from excess
> ink.
>
> The full reverse requires a great deal of impression; sufficient that
it
> might
> require
> an initial two-handed crank.
>
> All best
>
> Philip Gallo at The Hermetic Press
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Katie Harper wrote:
>
>> Just had a workshop group of folks printing from polymer plates, with
> mixed
>> results. In most cases, when folks proofed on coated stock, they'd
> like what
>> they'd see and then when they tried to print on the run stock
(usually
>> uncoated, ranging from Rives printmaking paper to card stock), almost
> all
>> were disappointed with the results. Even wetting the Rives slightly
> didn't
>> seem to give us a richer black in the larger solids.
>>
>> In some cases, what was being asked of the process was a bit
> impossible.
>> Fine detail in some areas with good blacks in the large solid areas.
> Plates
>> that contained both were especially problematic. However, I think
that
> we
>> should have had a bit more satisfaction than we did.
>>
>> I attributed some of the dissatisfaction on the uncoated stock to the
> wrong
>> ink. We used Inmont Midnight Black, an ink I inherited with a load of
>> letterpress equipment last summer. It has worked quite nicely in the
> past
>> with type, but doesn't seem to do well with images, especially with
> larger
>> solids on uncoated stock. I think that some of the problems also
might
> have
>> been due to some bad rollers on a "new" Vandercook that I recently
> got. The
>> rollers are smooth enough, but I suspect they have grown hard over
the
>> years, perhaps leading to the obvious roller slur that we got.
>>
>> I know there has been some discussion about inks on this list in the
> past,
>> and I'm going to be ordering some "real" letterpress black ink; but
> I'm
>> wondering if any letterpress ink is capable of doing what I mention
> above:
>> give good blacks and yet hold fine detail on uncoated stocks.
>>
>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>
>> Katie Harper
>> Ars Brevis Press
>> Cincinnati, OH
>> 513-233-9588
>>
>>
>> To post a message to the membership, send an email to
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Hey Phil

Forgot about this until Marnie brought it up again. I'd agree
with all this—though the image of that "two-handed crank" has stayed
with me. Can even feel it in my forearms!!! You are doing this on
photopolymer? Thought your Vandercook III was auto?

The Charbonnel inks work quite well for solids and with the addition
of Setswell compound. And if you are working with some fine lines
within, judicious wiping, as I think was suggested by Gaylord, is
what will do the trick.

Robin Price and I did a broadside of a large Matisse woodcut once
which was pretty much a solid with some fine edges to it. Think this
was the procedure as you have outlined it. Though probably a bit more
than a double hit.

All best

Ger

  --- In PPLetterpress@y..., philip gallo <phil@t...> wrote:
> I've been running full reverse plates as large as 11x14 using Daniel Smit=
h
> Velvet Black #65,
> with the addition of Setswell Compound, a flow agent, also available from=

> Daniel Smith.
> The standard formulation calls for not more than ten-percent additive to =
the
> ink.
>
> I've been printing Rives BFK, Arches Cover, Somerset Velvet and Lana Lin =
de Pur
> dampened
> from linoleum blocks, 1/4-inch magnesium plates, as well as polymer.
>
> I sometimes hit them twice, but generally speaking not. I am running thes=
e on a
> Universal III,
> and it does require re-inking after each impression. I also pre-ink at le=
ast
> once, sometimes twice.
>
> Fine detail in the reverse causes severe problems, and would call for les=
s
> dampening and
> somewhat less Setswell Compound. If you insist on such fine detail, you m=
ight
> try printing
> out on newsprint after each impression to clean the plate from excess ink=
.
>
> The full reverse requires a great deal of impression; sufficient that it =
might
> require
> an initial two-handed crank.
>
> All best
>
> Philip Gallo at The Hermetic Press

Regarding the Daniel Smith black #65... I have been to their web site and
don't see that ink. Does anyone know if there is a more updated number? They
list a #75, for example, but not the word "velvet" in the title. Phone calls
to them go unanswered...

I have been using a newly acquired Hostmann-Steinberg black from NA
Graphics. So far, results have been good, but on the C&P, I have noticed
that blacks are not always completely as solid as they should be, as though
the ink is not flowing well into the paper fibers. Would the setswell
compound help? Someone else recommended plate oil, and I think stand oil was
also mentioned. Anyone have experience with any of these additives? Do they
tend to dilute the color at all?

Katie


Katie Harper
Ars Brevis Press
Cincinnati, OH
513-233-9588




> From: "bielerpr" <bieler@...>
> Reply-To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:56:41 -0000
> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Printing troubles?
>
> Hey Phil
>
> Forgot about this until Marnie brought it up again. I'd agree
> with all this—though the image of that "two-handed crank" has stayed
> with me. Can even feel it in my forearms!!! You are doing this on
> photopolymer? Thought your Vandercook III was auto?
>
> The Charbonnel inks work quite well for solids and with the addition
> of Setswell compound. And if you are working with some fine lines
> within, judicious wiping, as I think was suggested by Gaylord, is
> what will do the trick.
>
> Robin Price and I did a broadside of a large Matisse woodcut once
> which was pretty much a solid with some fine edges to it. Think this
> was the procedure as you have outlined it. Though probably a bit more
> than a double hit.
>
> All best
>
> Ger
>
> --- In PPLetterpress@y..., philip gallo <phil@t...> wrote:
>> I've been running full reverse plates as large as 11x14 using Daniel Smit=h
>> Velvet Black #65,
>> with the addition of Setswell Compound, a flow agent, also available from=
>> Daniel Smith.
>> The standard formulation calls for not more than ten-percent additive to =the
>> ink.
>>
>> I've been printing Rives BFK, Arches Cover, Somerset Velvet and Lana Lin =de
>> Pur
>> dampened
>> from linoleum blocks, 1/4-inch magnesium plates, as well as polymer.
>>
>> I sometimes hit them twice, but generally speaking not. I am running thes=e
>> on a
>> Universal III,
>> and it does require re-inking after each impression. I also pre-ink at le=ast
>> once, sometimes twice.
>>
>> Fine detail in the reverse causes severe problems, and would call for les=s
>> dampening and
>> somewhat less Setswell Compound. If you insist on such fine detail, you
>> m=ight
>> try printing
>> out on newsprint after each impression to clean the plate from excess ink=.
>>
>> The full reverse requires a great deal of impression; sufficient that it
>> =might
>> require
>> an initial two-handed crank.
>>
>> All best
>>
>> Philip Gallo at The Hermetic Press
>
>
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Hi - I have avoided adding stand oil and other oils to my inks..Vanson
has a great paste loosener they call tack reducer, I use it in both oil
and rubber based inks, have for years.... for thickening the ink I use
magnesium carbonate, just a touch! otherwise the drying messed up. I
only use plate oil in etching inks for my intaglio work.  - Tim at
Lunalux