Respectfully, I request that the moderator(s) end this thread. I
imagine it must be more appropriate for another group. Thank you.
Kevin Rudynski

Agreed.

Gerald
PPL


>
> Respectfully, I request that the moderator(s) end this thread. I
> imagine it must be more appropriate for another group. Thank you.
> Kevin Rudynski
>

May I second Kevin's request.  As a professor, the references to crackpot
academics stings.  As an amateur printer wanting to learn more about the craft,
I dislike having to plow through political spam looking for items that pertain
to presses, their history and operation.

T. J. Ray


--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Kevin Rudynski <krrudy@...> wrote:

> From: Kevin Rudynski <krrudy@...>
> Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Cuteness and Green Design for a Brighter, Cuter
Future
> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 3:51 PM
> Respectfully, I request that the moderator(s) end this
> thread. I
> imagine it must be more appropriate for another group.
> Thank you.
> Kevin Rudynski

[Please excuse cross-posting]

"Saving the History of Printing" APHA's 2008 Conference, October 10-12

APHA is delighted to announce that its program and registration information for
its Thirty-third conference is now online. The conference, to be held in New
York City at The Grolier Club and Columbia University, is scheduled for October
10-12, 2008, Columbus Day weekend.

This year’s conference will be hosted by Columbia University’s Rare Book and
Manuscript Library, and The Grolier Club on the subject "Saving the History of
Printing." Our keynote speaker will be James Mosley, former librarian of St
Bride Library, on Friday evening October 10th at the Grolier Club. On Saturday
October 11th we move to Columbia University for a full day conference and then
to Columbia’s Rare Book and Manuscript Library for a closing reception. Sunday
will be an optional day of tours.

For more information, including printable forms, visit

http://www.printinghistory.org/htm/conference/2008/2008-program.htm

Paul Romaine
Webmaster
American Printing History Association

A fellow letterpess printer, Matt Kelsey, inquired of me about the
Bauer Foundry in Barcelona, as he planned a visit in August. Too
late, unfortunately:

"Sorry to tell you that we have ceased to cast metal types. WE keep a
few fonts in stock, but we are unable to cut them to American height
.918. We just continue here at Bauer Types the sale of digital type-
faces."  Wolfgang Hartmann

I have no information on the disposition of matrices or equipment.
I presume it goes to the University of Barcelona School of Graphic
Arts; they already have the casting machines above 36 point.

Norman McKnight
Philoxenia Press
Berkeley

If politics and letterpress were indeed the subject, than we should
talk about Tom Paine. Let's end this discussion, and urge everyone to
"work as though you were at the beginning of a new nation."-

Eileen





>May I second Kevin's request. As a professor, the references to
>crackpot academics stings. As an amateur printer wanting to learn
>more about the craft, I dislike having to plow through political
>spam looking for items that pertain to presses, their history and
>operation.
>
>T. J. Ray
>
>--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Kevin Rudynski
><<mailto:krrudy%40ameritech.net>krrudy@...> wrote:
>
>>  From: Kevin Rudynski <<mailto:krrudy%40ameritech.net>krrudy@...>
>>  Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Cuteness and Green Design for a
>>Brighter, Cuter Future
>>  To: <mailto:PPLetterpress%40yahoogroups.com>PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
>>  Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 3:51 PM
>>  Respectfully, I request that the moderator(s) end this
>>  thread. I
>>  imagine it must be more appropriate for another group.
>>  Thank you.
>>  Kevin Rudynski
>
>


--
>Love and love and love again,
>(what else is there?)







\










"

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ah, too bad. I knew I should have bought some of that lovely Bodoni!
When I was last in Barcelona, I had a lovely visit with Wolfgang and
his daughter, Vivian (who is in charge of the digital program).

Seemed like they were moving this direction in 2004.
I imagine that metal is just too expensive to ship, and the demand is
very small...

PF


On 13 Aug 2008, at 8:45 PM, Norman L McKnight wrote:

> A fellow letterpess printer, Matt Kelsey, inquired of me about the
> Bauer Foundry in Barcelona, as he planned a visit in August. Too
> late, unfortunately:
>
> "Sorry to tell you that we have ceased to cast metal types. WE keep a
> few fonts in stock, but we are unable to cut them to American height
> .918. We just continue here at Bauer Types the sale of digital type-
> faces."  Wolfgang Hartmann
>
> I have no information on the disposition of matrices or equipment.
> I presume it goes to the University of Barcelona School of Graphic
> Arts; they already have the casting machines above 36 point.
>
> Norman McKnight
> Philoxenia Press
> Berkeley
>

Peter Fraterdeus
Exquisite Letterpress
http://slowprint.com

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Our little shop recently added a 10x15 Windmill and I had the riggers
install it directly onto the floor and remove the skids (I'm short).
Then, a few days later I read the manual and discovered that Heidi
needs a drip pan.  Naively, we left it that way and, as you can
imagine, the floor is now an oil slick.

Any ideas to get a drip pan under there without spending $450 to have
the riggers come back out with a hoist?  I have at my disposal two
husbands, one J-bar, two fixed axel skates, and one pallet jack plus
2x4s, etc.

--- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "leorawest" <leorawest@...> wrote:

> Any ideas to get a drip pan under there without spending $450 to have
> the riggers come back out with a hoist?  I have at my disposal two
> husbands, one J-bar, two fixed axel skates, and one pallet jack plus
> 2x4s, etc.

With some work, you can move the press over the drip pan by
repositioning the skates (or pipe rollers) to bypass the lip. You want
the lip undamaged or the pan will leak.
    The Windmaill can also be lifted by inserting heavy rods through
those holes low in the frame, levering and blocking up so the press is
suspended on the rods, sliding the pan under it, and lowering.
--Eric Holub, SF

Get two long bars at least 1" in dia. and six or seven feet long.
Stick them through the holes in the bottom of the case.  If you have
access to a hydraulic automtovie floor jack, jack up each bar enough to
get a 2 x 4 under it.  I tried the pallet jack, and it tilted.  Work
around all bars, jacking up just enough to get another 2 x 4 under.
You don't have to have the base very far off the floor to get the drip
pan underneath.  Once you get it high enough, slide the drip pan under
and reverse the process.

Don't use a 3/4" bar.  It is too light.

Stan



--- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "leorawest" <leorawest@...> wrote:
>
> Our little shop recently added a 10x15 Windmill and I had the riggers
> install it directly onto the floor and remove the skids (I'm short).
> Then, a few days later I read the manual and discovered that Heidi
> needs a drip pan.  Naively, we left it that way and, as you can
> imagine, the floor is now an oil slick.
>
> Any ideas to get a drip pan under there without spending $450 to have
> the riggers come back out with a hoist?  I have at my disposal two
> husbands, one J-bar, two fixed axel skates, and one pallet jack plus
> 2x4s, etc.
>

Hi

I thought that I told you about a drip pan-–"get one at a auto parts
store".

You will find a hole that goes through the press back by the air pump,
if you get a big piece of pipe (that fits the hole...) long enough to
span the new drip pan and maybe a foot on each side. You then, using
the pallet jack and 2x4s raise one side of the press about an inch.
Build a support (pile of 2x4s) to hold the pipe and press up. Repeat
on the other side. Now the back of the press should be about one inch
off the ground, Now go around front and with the pallet jack and some
2x4s lift the front of the press, being careful not the damage the
counter. As a matter of fact, be very careful and make your piles very
stable!!
The pipe could be the kind that they use for poles for cyclone fences.

When you get each side up, I suggest you slide a thin board under each
side of the press as a safety. You don't need to build a pile of 2x4s
in the front, just let the pallet jack and 2x4s hold up the front.
When everything is stable, slide the thin boards out and slide the pan
in. Then let down carefully. You should put little pieces (maybe 3 or
4 inches square) of chip board in the corners to level the press (not
so important to be level), just be sure that it isn't rocking back and
forth or side to side...

Norman

Hicks Brothers Printing Equipment
582 6th Street
San Francisco, California 94103
United States of America
415-575-0933
415-575-0907 fax
415-725-1670 Norman cell
415-725-1671 Walter cell
sales@...
http://printingequip.com   visit us repeatedly!!


On Aug 14, 2008, at 1:37 PM, leorawest wrote:

Our little shop recently added a 10x15 Windmill and I had the riggers
install it directly onto the floor and remove the skids (I'm short).
Then, a few days later I read the manual and discovered that Heidi
needs a drip pan. Naively, we left it that way and, as you can
imagine, the floor is now an oil slick.

Any ideas to get a drip pan under there without spending $450 to have
the riggers come back out with a hoist? I have at my disposal two
husbands, one J-bar, two fixed axel skates, and one pallet jack plus
2x4s, etc.






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From a thread on Typophile:

"Letterpress printers are almost like StarBucks these days...shouldn't
be too hard/expensive to find one that can whip up some proof prints
for you."

http://www.typophile.com/node/48293


Gerald
http://BielerPress.blogspot.com

Does that mean that 600 of us will be closing up shop?


On 15 Aug 2008, at 10:15 PM, Gerald Lange wrote:

>> From a thread on Typophile:
>
> "Letterpress printers are almost like StarBucks these days...shouldn't
> be too hard/expensive to find one that can whip up some proof prints
> for you."
>
> http://www.typophile.com/node/48293
>
>
> Gerald
> http://BielerPress.blogspot.com
>

Peter Fraterdeus
Exquisite Letterpress
http://slowprint.com

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I'll have to check in my local corner starbuck see if they've got
some space for my vandercook and kluge!


    Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
     Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

On Aug 15, 2008, at 11:15 PM, Gerald Lange wrote:

> From a thread on Typophile:
>
> "Letterpress printers are almost like StarBucks these days...shouldn't
> be too hard/expensive to find one that can whip up some proof prints
> for you."
>
> http://www.typophile.com/node/48293
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello

iI'm new here and new at letterpress also! I was wondering if your
experience could come in handy and suggesting me one of the two
machines above mentioned.

I ws told to go for a Kelsey but can't find many....or find spare parts
if something breaks.

Can you help? Furthermore....do you have a letterpress that I can buy
off you?

Thanks once again.....

Regards,
micaela

Micaela --

I can't render an opinion on Adana vs. Kelsey, but I can offer a
little advice on finding a press.

First, keep in mind that most platen presses haven't been
manufactured for some time so finding spare parts for any model is
going to be a challenge. It is of course possible, but it will also
take a little patience. Often, when parts are hard to find,
replacements must be forged with a bit of research and ingenuity.

Second, there are LOTS of Kelseys out there. This newsgroup
(PPLetterpress) is more geared toward questions regarding the use of
photopolymer plates. Briarpress.org is a better resource for finding
equipment. They have an excellent classifieds section where right now
there are several Kelseys for sale, as well as a reconditioned Pilot
which is an excellent choice for a tabletop press. (Although note
that Kelseys weigh a lot less than Pilots and would be cheaper to
have shipped.) Craig's List can also (believe it or not) be a good
resource to find equipment. Presses often come available on Ebay, but
beware... they tend to go for unreasonable prices so do your homework
before you bid.

Good luck.

--Jen

Where in the world are you Micaela?


Graham Moss
Incline Press
36 Bow Street
Oldham OL1 1SJ  England
http://www.inclinepress.com




On 21/8/08 09:22, "sillymicmica" <sillymicmica@...> wrote:

> Hello
>
> iI'm new here and new at letterpress also! I was wondering if your
> experience could come in handy and suggesting me one of the two
> machines above mentioned.
>
> I ws told to go for a Kelsey but can't find many....or find spare parts
> if something breaks.
>
> Can you help? Furthermore....do you have a letterpress that I can buy
> off you?
>
> Thanks once again.....
>
> Regards,
> micaela
>

Vector Magic

Convert bitmap images to vector. Supposedly better than LiveTrace.

http://vectormagic.com/


Gerald
http://BielerPress.blogspot.com

Boxcar Press is marketing a bamboo fiber paper for the invitational
card market.

More about this can be found at Smock

http://www.smockpaper.com/

Site includes listings of stores that have the paper available for sale.

Gerald
http://BielerPress.blogspot.com

Sunny Italy!



----- Original Message ----
From: Graham and Kathy <kwhalen.incline@...>
To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:51:13 PM
Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] ADANA vs KELSEY


Where in the world are you Micaela?

Graham Moss
Incline Press
36 Bow Street
Oldham OL1 1SJ England
http://www.inclinep ress.com

On 21/8/08 09:22, "sillymicmica" <sillymicmica@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello
>
> iI'm new here and new at letterpress also! I was wondering if your
> experience could come in handy and suggesting me one of the two
> machines above mentioned.
>
> I ws told to go for a Kelsey but can't find many....or find spare parts
> if something breaks.
>
> Can you help? Furthermore. ...do you have a letterpress that I can buy
> off you?
>
> Thanks once again.....
>
> Regards,
> micaela
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

In that case you may be better off going for an Adana as Caslon, based
in the UK still provide spares and refurbished 8x5 machines. Here's
their website. http://www.caslon.co.uk/html/adana.html
Good luck,
Helen Ingham




--- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Micaela Mic <sillymicmica@...>
wrote:
>
> Sunny Italy!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Graham and Kathy kwhalen.incline@...
> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:51:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] ADANA vs KELSEY
>
>
> Where in the world are you Micaela?
>
> Graham Moss
> Incline Press
> 36 Bow Street
> Oldham OL1 1SJ England
> http://www.inclinep ress.com
>
> On 21/8/08 09:22, "sillymicmica" <sillymicmica@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > iI'm new here and new at letterpress also! I was wondering if your
> > experience could come in handy and suggesting me one of the two
> > machines above mentioned.
> >
> > I ws told to go for a Kelsey but can't find many....or find spare
parts
> > if something breaks.
> >
> > Can you help? Furthermore. ...do you have a letterpress that I can
buy
> > off you?
> >
> > Thanks once again.....
> >
> > Regards,
> > micaela
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Then you might consider that getting a press and easy access to spare parts
from England would suggest an Adana. Very few Kelsey presses made it to
Europe, so that is likely to raise your expenses if you get one of those.


Graham Moss
Incline Press
36 Bow Street
Oldham OL1 1SJ  England
http://www.inclinepress.com




On 24/8/08 16:25, "Micaela Mic" <sillymicmica@...> wrote:

> Sunny Italy!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Graham and Kathy <kwhalen.incline@...>
> To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:51:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] ADANA vs KELSEY
>
>
> Where in the world are you Micaela?
>
> Graham Moss
> Incline Press
> 36 Bow Street
> Oldham OL1 1SJ England
> http://www.inclinep ress.com
>
> On 21/8/08 09:22, "sillymicmica" <sillymicmica@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> iI'm new here and new at letterpress also! I was wondering if your
>> experience could come in handy and suggesting me one of the two
>> machines above mentioned.
>>
>> I ws told to go for a Kelsey but can't find many....or find spare parts
>> if something breaks.
>>
>> Can you help? Furthermore. ...do you have a letterpress that I can buy
>> off you?
>>
>> Thanks once again.....
>>
>> Regards,
>> micaela
>>
>

Here's You Tube posting of a film of David Bolton's Monocaster taken
while me and Rick were over at the Alembic Press a few weeks back.
Cheers,
Helen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SPsBQKSz04

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=250288487246&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

I am offering a Vandercook Operation and Maintenance one-day workshop
at Art Center College of Design
on Sunday, October 19th, 10am to 5pm.

This is held at Archetype Press, South Campus.
950 South Raymond Avenue, Pasadena, California.

Contact
http://www.artcenter.edu/atnight/main.jsp
for registration.

Gerald

For a listing of letterpress classes I offer for the fall term go to
http://BielerPress.blogspot.com

Sorry, I'm totally a newbie in the subject of the group
and maybe should use search harder, but...

What's the resolution can we get with photopolymer plates?
It'll be great for me to know average minimum-acceptable, normal and
fine values to test my process.

Thanks for your opinions.

Iohannes

I'm not exactly sure what you are asking as there may be two
approaches to this.

One would be a measure of the tolarance of a given photopolymer plate.
Most manufacturers provide this information.

If you are asking what is the resolution required for output, the
standard is an imagesetter film negative. These are usually generated
at 2400 dpi (standard), but some machines are capable of up to 5400
dpi (I usually spec 3600 dpi).

If your concerns are typographic or if you want the finest definition
and clarity of letterform or imaging, this is your only option.

However, imaging can be generated on laser or ink jet printers at
resolutions from 600 to 1200 dpi, and there are a couple of laser
printers capable of emulated 2400 dpi. But you cannot achieve the type
of quality you would get from imagesetter film, and at $8 to $16 for
an 8.5 x 11 inch film negative, hardly seems worth it to do anything
less. Besides the lack of refinement in the imaging, there are also
opacity problems associated with toner-based imaging. A minimum
density of 3.5 to 4.0 over the opaque areas and a maximum density of
.05 at transparency are the minimum standard and even the best of
toner-based film configurations barely reaches this level.

Gerald
http://BielerPress.blogspot.com


--- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Iohannes Daubmannus"
<daubmannus@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I'm totally a newbie in the subject of the group
> and maybe should use search harder, but...
>
> What's the resolution can we get with photopolymer plates?
> It'll be great for me to know average minimum-acceptable, normal and
> fine values to test my process.
>
> Thanks for your opinions.
>

Hi,

(This is my first post, as far as I can remember. Have been a
'voyeur' on this group for long enough so think it's about time to
step in!)

Maybe his question leans more towards "what is the highest line-
screen of a PP plate?" - I think, practically, it's about 150 dpi.

I saw a flexo sample printed by a local label printer a few weeks ago
of a typical press-target type image (bread, flowers, a glass of
wine, etc. still life) - indistinguishable from litho! Apparently off
PP plates. Although I don't know how many out there try halftone work
on their PP plates with regards to letterpress...

-Nicolas Goosen

PS Iohannes - you need to get to grips with the difference between
'resolution of an image-setting/plate-setting device' and the
halftone 'resolution'/dpi that it can thus achieve and please clarify
your question.



On 31 Aug 2008, at 10:00 PM, Gerald Lange wrote:

> Iohannes
>
> I'm not exactly sure what you are asking as there may be two
> approaches to this.
>
> One would be a measure of the tolarance of a given photopolymer plate.
> Most manufacturers provide this information.
>
> If you are asking what is the resolution required for output, the
> standard is an imagesetter film negative. These are usually generated
> at 2400 dpi (standard), but some machines are capable of up to 5400
> dpi (I usually spec 3600 dpi).
>
> If your concerns are typographic or if you want the finest definition
> and clarity of letterform or imaging, this is your only option.
>
> However, imaging can be generated on laser or ink jet printers at
> resolutions from 600 to 1200 dpi, and there are a couple of laser
> printers capable of emulated 2400 dpi. But you cannot achieve the type
> of quality you would get from imagesetter film, and at $8 to $16 for
> an 8.5 x 11 inch film negative, hardly seems worth it to do anything
> less. Besides the lack of refinement in the imaging, there are also
> opacity problems associated with toner-based imaging. A minimum
> density of 3.5 to 4.0 over the opaque areas and a maximum density of
> .05 at transparency are the minimum standard and even the best of
> toner-based film configurations barely reaches this level.
>
> Gerald
> http://BielerPress.blogspot.com
>
> --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Iohannes Daubmannus"
> <daubmannus@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I'm totally a newbie in the subject of the group
> > and maybe should use search harder, but...
> >
> > What's the resolution can we get with photopolymer plates?
> > It'll be great for me to know average minimum-acceptable, normal and
> > fine values to test my process.
> >
> > Thanks for your opinions.
> >
>
>
>

Nicolas

Well in terms of optimal printing conditions, and on the best of
plates, one could reproduce fine lines accurately at .0015", halftones
at 150-200 lpi, and isolated dots .0075" in diameter.

Not with letterpress though. I use 150 lpi but that is pushing it.
Halftone work is probably best avoided as it requires sophisticated
prepress configuration, a specific type of paper, makeready, ink, and
a lot of attention to detail during presswork. If you are trying to
get it right. I use the old Lewis Roberts HT inks as they seem to hold
the best.

Gerald
http://BielerPress.blogspot.com

--- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Nicolas Goosen <nicolas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> (This is my first post, as far as I can remember. Have been a
> 'voyeur' on this group for long enough so think it's about time to
> step in!)
>
> Maybe his question leans more towards "what is the highest line-
> screen of a PP plate?" - I think, practically, it's about 150 dpi.
>
> I saw a flexo sample printed by a local label printer a few weeks ago
> of a typical press-target type image (bread, flowers, a glass of
> wine, etc. still life) - indistinguishable from litho! Apparently off
> PP plates. Although I don't know how many out there try halftone work
> on their PP plates with regards to letterpress...
>
> -Nicolas Goosen
>
> PS Iohannes - you need to get to grips with the difference between
> 'resolution of an image-setting/plate-setting device' and the
> halftone 'resolution'/dpi that it can thus achieve and please clarify
> your question.
>
>
>
> On 31 Aug 2008, at 10:00 PM, Gerald Lange wrote:
>
> > Iohannes
> >
> > I'm not exactly sure what you are asking as there may be two
> > approaches to this.
> >
> > One would be a measure of the tolarance of a given photopolymer plate.
> > Most manufacturers provide this information.
> >
> > If you are asking what is the resolution required for output, the
> > standard is an imagesetter film negative. These are usually generated
> > at 2400 dpi (standard), but some machines are capable of up to 5400
> > dpi (I usually spec 3600 dpi).
> >
> > If your concerns are typographic or if you want the finest definition
> > and clarity of letterform or imaging, this is your only option.
> >
> > However, imaging can be generated on laser or ink jet printers at
> > resolutions from 600 to 1200 dpi, and there are a couple of laser
> > printers capable of emulated 2400 dpi. But you cannot achieve the type
> > of quality you would get from imagesetter film, and at $8 to $16 for
> > an 8.5 x 11 inch film negative, hardly seems worth it to do anything
> > less. Besides the lack of refinement in the imaging, there are also
> > opacity problems associated with toner-based imaging. A minimum
> > density of 3.5 to 4.0 over the opaque areas and a maximum density of
> > .05 at transparency are the minimum standard and even the best of
> > toner-based film configurations barely reaches this level.
> >
> > Gerald
> > http://BielerPress.blogspot.com
> >
> > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Iohannes Daubmannus"
> > <daubmannus@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, I'm totally a newbie in the subject of the group
> > > and maybe should use search harder, but...
> > >
> > > What's the resolution can we get with photopolymer plates?
> > > It'll be great for me to know average minimum-acceptable, normal and
> > > fine values to test my process.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your opinions.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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