Again, courtesy of Caelainn:

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Arwen gave me a list of the dances they've been learning at Dance
> practice,
> and I've added the ones I know the musicians know to this list. So, here
> is
> the Final dance list, you can put them in any order you wish (alpha, by
> type, etc.):
>
> > HRM Mikhulina's Dance: Karobushka
> > Other fundraiser possibility: Hole in the Wall
> >
> > Earle of Salisbury Pavane
> > Black Nag
> > Gathering Peascods
> > Heart's Ease
> > Jenny Pluck Pears
> > Schiarazula Marazula (Maltese Branle)
> > Nonesuch
> > Rufty Tufty
> > Sellenger's Round
> > Torch Branle
> > Anello
> > Gelosia
> > Petit Riens
> >
> Queen's Alman
> Black Alman
> Branle Suite
> Branle Charlotte
> Branle Official
> Pease Branle
> Horses Branle
> Washerwoman's Branle
> Carolingian Pavane (Figured Pavane)
> Upon A Summer's Day
> Dargason
> Picking Up Sticks

Ummm...what's this all about?

Just skimming through it, I got the impression of a
non-stop dance marathon fundraiser using these dances.

Berengaria
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:13:20 -0500
>    From: "McClune, Sheila"
> <SMcClune@...>
> Subject: FW: dance list
>
> Outlands Kingdom A&S Dance List, courtesy of THL
> Caelainn.
>
> Arwen
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kristen Murray-Todd [SMTP:KristenM@...]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 9:45 AM
> > To: 'Beatricia'
> > Cc: 'Bri'; 'Crispin'; 'Thomas'; 'Meg Baron';
> 'McClune, Sheila';
> > 'quartermaster@...'
> > Subject: RE: dance list
> >
> > Dance list for Kingdom A&S:
> >
> > HRM Mikhulina's Dance: Karobushka
> > Other fundraiser possibility: Hole in the Wall
> >
> > Here is a list of dances commonly done in the
> Outlands from which the
> > dancers can chose.
> >
> > Earle of Salisbury Pavane
> > Black Nag
> > Gathering Peascods
> > Heart's Ease
> > Jenny Pluck Pears
> > Schiarazula Marazula (Maltese Branle)
> > Nonesuch
> > Rufty Tufty
> > Sellenger's Round
> > Torch Branle
> > Anello
> > Gelosia
> >
> > I will have packets of music for all of the dances
> listed for the
> > musicians.
> > We will  take other requests, and if we've got
> enough copies of the tune,
> > we
> > will gladly play it!
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:  LHaff@...[SMTP:LHaff@...]
> > > Sent:  Tuesday, September 14, 1999 2:22 PM
> > > To:  KristenM@...
> > > Subject:  Re: dance list
> > >
> > > Sounds good to me.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Beatricia
> > >
>
>
>

> Message: 2
>    Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:44:20 -0500
>    From: "McClune, Sheila"
> <SMcClune@...>
> Subject: Kingdom A&S dance list, revised
>
> Again, courtesy of Caelainn:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > Arwen gave me a list of the dances they've been
> learning at Dance
> > practice,
> > and I've added the ones I know the musicians know
> to this list. So, here
> > is
> > the Final dance list, you can put them in any
> order you wish (alpha, by
> > type, etc.):
> >
> > > HRM Mikhulina's Dance: Karobushka
> > > Other fundraiser possibility: Hole in the Wall
> > >
> > > Earle of Salisbury Pavane
> > > Black Nag
> > > Gathering Peascods
> > > Heart's Ease
> > > Jenny Pluck Pears
> > > Schiarazula Marazula (Maltese Branle)
> > > Nonesuch
> > > Rufty Tufty
> > > Sellenger's Round
> > > Torch Branle
> > > Anello
> > > Gelosia
> > > Petit Riens
> > >
> > Queen's Alman
> > Black Alman
> > Branle Suite
> > Branle Charlotte
> > Branle Official
> > Pease Branle
> > Horses Branle
> > Washerwoman's Branle
> > Carolingian Pavane (Figured Pavane)
> > Upon A Summer's Day
> > Dargason
> > Picking Up Sticks
>
>
>

>

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I'm not entirely sure -- I will ask Caelainn for a clarification.  My
thought was to pay them *not* to do those first two dances :)

Arwen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeanne Stapleton [SMTP:apiskp@...]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 9:28 AM
> To: OutlandsDance@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [OutlandsDance] Digest Number 25
>
> From: Jeanne Stapleton <apiskp@...>
>
> Ummm...what's this all about?
>
> Just skimming through it, I got the impression of a
> non-stop dance marathon fundraiser using these dances.
>
> Berengaria
> >
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:13:20 -0500
> >    From: "McClune, Sheila"
> > <SMcClune@...>
> > Subject: FW: dance list
> >
> > Outlands Kingdom A&S Dance List, courtesy of THL
> > Caelainn.
> >
> > Arwen
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kristen Murray-Todd [SMTP:KristenM@...]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 9:45 AM
> > > To: 'Beatricia'
> > > Cc: 'Bri'; 'Crispin'; 'Thomas'; 'Meg Baron';
> > 'McClune, Sheila';
> > > 'quartermaster@...'
> > > Subject: RE: dance list
> > >
> > > Dance list for Kingdom A&S:
> > >
> > > HRM Mikhulina's Dance: Karobushka
> > > Other fundraiser possibility: Hole in the Wall
> > >
> > > Here is a list of dances commonly done in the
> > Outlands from which the
> > > dancers can chose.
> > >
> > > Earle of Salisbury Pavane
> > > Black Nag
> > > Gathering Peascods
> > > Heart's Ease
> > > Jenny Pluck Pears
> > > Schiarazula Marazula (Maltese Branle)
> > > Nonesuch
> > > Rufty Tufty
> > > Sellenger's Round
> > > Torch Branle
> > > Anello
> > > Gelosia
> > >
> > > I will have packets of music for all of the dances
> > listed for the
> > > musicians.
> > > We will  take other requests, and if we've got
> > enough copies of the tune,
> > > we
> > > will gladly play it!
> > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From:  LHaff@...[SMTP:LHaff@...]
> > > > Sent:  Tuesday, September 14, 1999 2:22 PM
> > > > To:  KristenM@...
> > > > Subject:  Re: dance list
> > > >
> > > > Sounds good to me.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Beatricia
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________________________
> _____
> >
> __________________________________________________________________________
> _____
> >
> > Message: 2
> >    Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:44:20 -0500
> >    From: "McClune, Sheila"
> > <SMcClune@...>
> > Subject: Kingdom A&S dance list, revised
> >
> > Again, courtesy of Caelainn:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > Arwen gave me a list of the dances they've been
> > learning at Dance
> > > practice,
> > > and I've added the ones I know the musicians know
> > to this list. So, here
> > > is
> > > the Final dance list, you can put them in any
> > order you wish (alpha, by
> > > type, etc.):
> > >
> > > > HRM Mikhulina's Dance: Karobushka
> > > > Other fundraiser possibility: Hole in the Wall
> > > >
> > > > Earle of Salisbury Pavane
> > > > Black Nag
> > > > Gathering Peascods
> > > > Heart's Ease
> > > > Jenny Pluck Pears
> > > > Schiarazula Marazula (Maltese Branle)
> > > > Nonesuch
> > > > Rufty Tufty
> > > > Sellenger's Round
> > > > Torch Branle
> > > > Anello
> > > > Gelosia
> > > > Petit Riens
> > > >
> > > Queen's Alman
> > > Black Alman
> > > Branle Suite
> > > Branle Charlotte
> > > Branle Official
> > > Pease Branle
> > > Horses Branle
> > > Washerwoman's Branle
> > > Carolingian Pavane (Figured Pavane)
> > > Upon A Summer's Day
> > > Dargason
> > > Picking Up Sticks
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________________________
> _____
> >
> __________________________________________________________________________
> _____
> >
> >
>
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> Barry

>
> Message: 2
>    Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:23:35 -0500
>    From: "McClune, Sheila"
> <SMcClune@...>
> Subject: RE: Digest Number 25
>
> I'm not entirely sure -- I will ask Caelainn for a
> clarification.  My
> thought was to pay them *not* to do those first two
> dances :)
>
> Arwen

I'm with you!  Add me in for a small contribution.

Berengaria

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Caerthen Dance Practice

Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999
Time: 07:00PM - 09:00PM MDT (GMT-06:00)

Last practice each month is at the Park Hill Branch Library
(Montview & Dexter); all others at University Hills Branch
Library (Amherst & Birch).  Directions to both sites in the
OutlandsDance Files Area at Onelist (see Caerthe.txt).

Due to the fact that I was being extremely calendar-challenged this month,
Caerthen Dance Practice was a little confused yesterday.  No, yesterday was
*not* the last Thursday of the month, so we were at the U-Hills library, not
at Park Hill as I had announced to everyone.  I apologize to anyone who was
inconvenienced, and anyone who catches me being so challenged in the future
is welcome to correct me by whatever means are necessary :)

However ... since there was about half an hour where Guillaume and I were
the only ones there, it meant that we had a rare opportunity to teach
ourselves a new dance.  We picked Rostiboli Gioioso, since it's a two-person
dance and was on our "list of things to learn someday."  I think it went
pretty well, and we will be teaching it to the class at next week's Caerthen
Practice.

Since we only had a secondary source to go by, though (we hadn't anticipated
having time to do this sort of thing and so didn't come completely
prepared), we still need to go back and consult the primary sources (and
probably some additional secondary sources) for clues that might lead us to
interpret the steps or pattern differently.  So what I was wondering was
whether anyone else out there has ever done Rostiboli, and if so, what
sources did you use and how did you choose to interpret it?  Once we come up
with our final interpretation, we'll post it here for further
debate/discussion.

Also, Doran (from Dragonsspine), began to teach us Whirl-a-gig.  Because we
had a limited number of dancers (and a couple of the ones we did have were
injured and not up to full-speed dancing), we couldn't actually do it to
music this time, but we plan to do another low-speed walk-through at the
next practice, and then we're going to try it with the music.  It looks like
a fun but dizzy-making dance.  Whee!

Anyone else out there doing anything fun at their practices?

Arwen

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Caerthen Dance Practice

Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999
Time: 07:00PM - 09:00PM MDT (GMT-06:00)

Last practice each month is at the Park Hill Branch Library
(Montview & Dexter); all others at University Hills Branch
Library (Amherst & Birch).  Directions to both sites in the
OutlandsDance Files Area at Onelist (see Caerthe.txt).

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Caerthen Dance Practice

Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999
Time: 07:00PM - 09:00PM MDT (GMT-06:00)

Last practice each month is at the Park Hill Branch Library
(Montview & Dexter); all others at University Hills Branch
Library (Amherst & Birch).  Directions to both sites in the
OutlandsDance Files Area at Onelist (see Caerthe.txt).

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Caerthen Dance Practice

Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999
Time: 07:00PM - 09:00PM MDT (GMT-06:00)

Last practice each month is at the Park Hill Branch Library
(Montview & Dexter); all others at University Hills Branch
Library (Amherst & Birch).  Directions to both sites in the
OutlandsDance Files Area at Onelist (see Caerthe.txt).

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Caerthen Dance Practice

Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999
Time: 07:00PM - 09:00PM MDT (GMT-06:00)

Last practice each month is at the Park Hill Branch Library
(Montview & Dexter); all others at University Hills Branch
Library (Amherst & Birch).  Directions to both sites in the
OutlandsDance Files Area at Onelist (see Caerthe.txt).

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Caerthen Dance Practice

Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999
Time: 07:00PM - 09:00PM MDT (GMT-06:00)

Last practice each month is at the Park Hill Branch Library
(Montview & Dexter); all others at University Hills Branch
Library (Amherst & Birch).  Directions to both sites in the
OutlandsDance Files Area at Onelist (see Caerthe.txt).

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Caerthen Dance Practice

Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999
Time: 07:00PM - 09:00PM MST (GMT-07:00)

Last practice each month is at the Park Hill Branch Library
(Montview & Dexter); all others at University Hills Branch
Library (Amherst & Birch).  Directions to both sites in the
OutlandsDance Files Area at Onelist (see Caerthe.txt).

Ooops!

Bad list administrator!  Forgot to turn off the auto-reminder!

Anyway, please ignore this notice, and I'm going to go turn it off now.
But in the meantime ...

Caerthen Dance Practice is CANCELLED for the month of November.  Due to two
Thursday holidays in November (Veteran's Day and Thanksgiving), and special
library programs, we were unable to get either of our two regular dance
practice sites for most of November.  As a result, we have decided to take
a month's hiatus.  We will resume our regularly scheduled practices in
December, when we will be working on dances for Twelfth Night.

But if you're not busy tonight, you're invited to join us for a demo at Van
Arsdale Elementary School.  Note that only 15 minutes are scheduled for
dance; however, if we show up in more force than the fighters, and they
wear themselves out ....

Here is the info:

Come one, Come all to the demo at Van Arsdale Elementary School!
(they are studying the middle ages)

Thursday, November 4th
Get there at 6:30 to set up and greet people coming in the door
7-7:30- watch the kids perform in the gym
7:30-7:45- Dancing and Drumming by the SCA
7:45-8:00- Heavy Fighters
8:00-8:15- Light Fighters

The gym will be set up with chairs around an oval space.  All SCA people
can put their stuff in the music room which is adjacent to the gym. Bring
all of your stuff with all the frills.  Please RSVP.

Lady Arcadia aka Pamela Shofner (art teacher)
Voice mail for Pam- 303-982-1099
Van Arsdale Elementary
7535 Alkire St.
Arvada, Co 80005
303-982-1080

Directions:
Ward Rd. North to 72nd.  West (left)on 72nd to Alkire.  North (right) on
Alkire and you'll see the school on the left-hand side.  Be there before
7pm or there will be no parking available.  We're expecting 200 people.

Thanks!
Lady Arcadia de Medina
arcadiademedina@...


Look forward to seeing as many of you as possible there!

Arwen


At 02:02 AM 11/4/99 -0000, you wrote:
>From: OutlandsDance-owner@onelist.com
>
>We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
>
>Caerthen Dance Practice
>
>Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999
>Time: 07:00PM - 09:00PM MST (GMT-07:00)
>
>Last practice each month is at the Park Hill Branch Library
>(Montview & Dexter); all others at University Hills Branch
>Library (Amherst & Birch).  Directions to both sites in the
>OutlandsDance Files Area at Onelist (see Caerthe.txt).
>
>>Nobody cares if you can’t dance well.  Just get up and dance. -- Dave Barry
>
>

>Subject: [SCA-Dance] CDs are in stock
>To: sca-dance@...
>Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:45:59 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Greg Lindahl" <lindahl@...>
>Sender: owner-sca-dance@...
>Reply-To: sca-dance@...
>
>Thanks to the labor of Eric Pratzel, I have enough CDs to clear the
>order backlog and more. So, here's your chance to buy a Christmas
>present for that special dancemaster in your heart. Well, actually, I
>can't promise you'll have it by Xmas; this note will undoubtedly
>generate more orders than I will have CDs.
>
>I will also reprint J&J soon. Wait for the announcement.
>
>-- greg
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>I am pleased to announce that I am now selling cheap dance CDs, thanks
>to the hard work of many, many others. How cheap? Most are $3,
>including shipping within the US. This quality varies from
>professional to amateur, with some computer-generated music. Most
>importantly, it gives your local dance practice a good way of cheaply
>and legally acquiring music to use. (If you saw the CDs on sale last
>year at Pennsic, these are the same ones.)
>
>Much of this music was originally available on tape, but most had gone
>out of print. In addition to a huge "Huzzah" to all the musicians who
>have allowed their work to be copied for these disks, I would like to
>thank Eric Praetzel for doing most of the computer work, Phelim "Pug"
>Gervase for mass-producing the CDs, and Lucrezia of Isenfir for
>assembling and shipping everything. A full list of the musicians
>involved is included on the labels with each CD, and can be viewed
>online at: http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/CD-offer.html
>
>And without further ado, the CDs and their contents. Ordering info at
>bottom.
>
>Companions of St. Cecilia 1
>===========================
>
>     Almande Madame Sosilia, Bransle Maltese (suicide), Bransle
>     Montarde, Bransle Pease, Chestnut, Confess, Danse de Cleue, Fain
>     I Would, Fickle Ladies, Fryar and the Nun, Grimstock, Heart's
>     Ease, Hole in the Head, Hyde Park, Love & a Bottle, Mannshaft
>     Pavane, Mayden Lane, Old Mole, Sellenger's Round, Stingo, The
>     Health, Upon a Summer's Day
>
>Companions of St. Cecilia 2
>===========================
>
>     Alman Black, Alman Lorayne, Alman New, Alman Old, Alman Queen's,
>     Alman Vicar's, Argeers, Beggar Boy, Bransle Charlotte, Bransle
>     Clog, Bransle Hay, Bransle Horse's, Bransle Official, Bransle
>     Scot's, Bransle Washerwoman's, Epping Forest, Gathering Peascods,
>     Jenny Pluck Pears, Joyssance (Basse), La Gelosia, Lauro (Basse),
>     Milk Maids Bobb, Parson's Farewell, Picking of Sticks, Quadran
>     Pavane, Quadran Pavane, Rufty Tufty, The Fine Companion
>
>Del's Dance Disk (computer generated)
>=====================================
>
>     Alenchon, Alman Black, Alman Queens, Amoroso, Anello, Bassa
>     Honorata (Caroso), Belfiore, Contentezza d'Amore (Caroso), Este
>     Gonzaga (Caroso), Gathering Peascods, Gelosia, La Danse de
>     Cleves, La Fia Guielmin, Lo Spagnoletto (Negri), Mannschaft
>     Pavan, Marchesana, Newcastle, Nine Daies Wonder, Petit Vriens,
>     Pizochara, Presoniera, Saltarello La Regina, plus extra tracks:
>     Carman's Whistle, Earl of Salisbury, for John Tallow's Cannon, If
>     all the World were Paper, The New Exchange
>
>Incomplete Arbeau (solo harpischord)
>====================================
>
>     Bell Qui, Bransle Aridan, Bransle Burgundian, Bransle
>     Candlestick, Bransle Cassandra, Bransle Charlott, Bransle Clog,
>     Bransle Corrant, Bransle Double, Bransle Gay, Bransle Guerre
>     (War), Bransle Haut Barrois, Bransle Hermits (Le Roy), Bransle
>     Horses, Bransle Maltese, Bransle Montarde, Bransle Offical,
>     Bransle Pease (Le Roy), Bransle Pinagay, Bransle Poitou, Bransle
>     Scottish, Bransle Single, Bransle Suite (Dbl, Burg., Haut, D),
>     Bransle Trihory, Bransle Washerwomen's, Galliard Antoinette,
>     Galliard I Would Rather Lie Alone, Galliard Weariness, Galliard
>     Whether I Love or no, Lavolta, Turdion
>
>Music from the Inns of Court ($3+$3 royalty, $6 total, this CD
>accompanies a book which can be purchased separately)
>======================================================
>
>     Alman Black, Alman Lorayne, Alman Madam Sosilia, Alman New, Alman
>     Old, Alman Queens, Earl of Essex Measure, Pavan Quadran,
>     Tinternell, Turkelone
>
>Joy and Jealousy (computer-generated; music to accompany Rosina and Ellisif's
>15c Italian dance book _Joy and Jealousy_, which can be purchased separately)
>=============================================================================
>
>     Amoroso, Anello, Belfiore, Belreguardo, Colonesse, Fia Guielmina,
>     Gelosia, Gratioso, Ingrata, Jupiter, Legiadra (not d'Amore),
>     Leoncello, Marchesana, Mercantia, Petit Vriens, Pizocara,
>     Prexonera, Rostiboli Gioioso, Sobria, Spero, Tesara, Vercepe,
>     Vita di Cholino, Voltati in Ca Rosina
>
>Shire of the Isles "Toons and Trips" tapes 1-3 (on one CD) (apparently
>not recorded under very good conditions, nor did we have a good copy
>of the tape to work with... but hey, it's only $3)
>===================================================================
>
>     Alman Black, Arbeau's BasseDance (Caidan Meausre), Black Nag,
>     Bransle Grey (Washerwoman), Bransle Offical, Br. Chiaranzula
>     (Maltese Calafian), Credits, Gathering Peascods, Goddesses,
>     Hearts Ease, Hole in the Wall, If All the World Were Paper, Jenny
>     Pluck Pears, Juice of Barley, Korobushka, Pavan Mannschaft,
>     Picking of Sticks, Road to Lisdonvarna, Rufty Tufty 1, Rufty
>     Tufty 2, Scotland the Brave, Sellingers Round, Strip the Willow,
>     St. Martins, Whirligig (Irish Washerwoman), Woodicock
>
>Tape of Dance 2 (originally published by the Letter of Dance. Mostly
>real musicians, a few of the bassedanze are synthesized)
>========================================================
>
>     Alman Black, Avignon (44/6), Ballo del Fiore, Basse Alenchon
>     (30/3), Bayonne (33/4), Beaulte (39/4), Black Nag, Bransle
>     Horses', Casulle (46/5), Dargason, Falla con Misuras, Flourentine
>     (44/6), Galliard Holborne, Galliard L'Ennuy, Galliard Mille
>     Ducas, Galliard Phillips, Heartsease, Heralds in Love, Hole in
>     the Head, Hyde Park, Jouyessance (64 bars), Jouyessance (80
>     bars), Juice of Barley, L Tantaine (36/4), La Franchoise (59/6),
>     Le Rosin (42/5), Leggiadria d'Amore, M'amie (31/4), Parson's
>     Farewell, Return of Spring, Saltarello La Regina, Tourdion
>     (Arbeau), Tourdion (fast)
>
>Tape of Dance 3 (originally published by the Letter of Dance. All real
>musicians)
>======================================================================
>
>     Alman Lorayne, Anello (2x), Bonny Bonny Broom, Bransle de la Haye
>     (for 4), Bransle Hermits, Bransle Suite Arbeau, Bransle Trihory,
>     Bransle War, Bransle Washerwoman's, Colonesse, Dolce Amoroso
>     Fiamma (Passo e Mezzo), Gavotte (Arbeau), Goria d'Amore, If All
>     the World Were Paper, Il Canario, Le Mois de May, Lo Spagnoletto
>     (Negri), Mercantia (3x), Newcastle, Petit Vriens (2x), Sobria
>     (2x), Spagnoletta, plus these refugeess from the Tape of Dance 1:
>     Ballo del Fiore, Hole in the Head (fast), Hole in the Head
>     (slow), Hyde Park, Parson's Farewell, Return of Spring (2x)
>
>What are all these dances?
>=========================
>
>For more information about dances, please see
>
>http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/music_and_dance.html
>
>For back-issues of the _Letter of Dance_, a quarterly publication
>about Renassance dance, see
>
>http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/lod/
>
>Ordering Information
>====================
>
>Please pay by check; $3 per CD, plus a $3 royalty for the Inns of
>Court CD. Make checks payable to "Greg Lindahl". If you aren't in the
>US, please send me email at lindahl@... or write for terms. Eric
>Praetzel sells these CDs in Canada.
>
>I only have limited numbers of these CDs. If I have something
>in-stock, it will be shipped quickly. If I need to have more made, it
>may take 1-2 months.
>
>My address is:
>
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Just to let everyone know ... Master Gregory Blount, from Atlantia, will
probably be visiting Caerthen Dance Practice in December.  He is the person
responsible for the SCA Music and Dance pages on the web, as well as the
Dance Cheat Sheets.  He is also the person who sells the inexpensive dance
CDs (most $3) over the Internet.  Anyone who can make it is encouraged to
show up and (hopefully) learn some new dances!

And a reminder ... Caerthen Dance Practice resumes the first Thursday in
December ...

Arwen

Hello,

My name is Marbo Giannaccini, 62, I am brazilian and I live in Brasilia, DF.
Now I direct the Goldoni Theatre and my plan is create a Renaissance Dance
Group to play the italian renaissance dances.
My email is marbo@... and I am at your service.

Greetings

Greetings unto the Outlands Dancing community from Guillaume de Gonzac, part
time leader of dance in the fair Barony of Caerthe.

      A few weeks ago on the SCA-Dance list Lady Ambrosia from Nordskogen
asked "which 12 dances should _every_ SCA gentle know?"  The context was:

> For many (read about 14) years, Northshield has had a Dance event, even
> before it was Northshield. Each year as instructors are sought, they are
> asked a question which I would pose to the dance community as a whole:
>
> Which 12 dances should _every_ SCA gentle know?
>
> Usually, the question is narrowed down to the Middle Kingdom, but for this
I
> am interested in including the whole SCA.
>
> I am also curious as to _why_ you would choose those particular dances.

      I would like to ask what 12 dances do you think every dancer in the
Outlands should know and why?  After we've seen some of the ideas from other
Outlanders, I will post my own list and a summary of the results from the
SCA list.

Keith / Guillaume

not sure if i can come up with 12, but:

hole in the wall
sellinger's round
gathering peascods
black nag
single bransle
double bransle
burgundian bransle
horse's bransle
maltese bransle
belle qui pavanne
earl of salisbury's pavanne

yes, i know that the earl of salisbury is modern and hole in the wall is
very late.

elaina

On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Swashbuckler wrote:

> Greetings unto the Outlands Dancing community from Guillaume de Gonzac, part
> time leader of dance in the fair Barony of Caerthe.
>
>      A few weeks ago on the SCA-Dance list Lady Ambrosia from Nordskogen
> asked "which 12 dances should _every_ SCA gentle know?"  The context was:
>
> > For many (read about 14) years, Northshield has had a Dance event, even
> > before it was Northshield. Each year as instructors are sought, they are
> > asked a question which I would pose to the dance community as a whole:
> >
> > Which 12 dances should _every_ SCA gentle know?
> >
> > Usually, the question is narrowed down to the Middle Kingdom, but for this
> I
> > am interested in including the whole SCA.
> >
> > I am also curious as to _why_ you would choose those particular dances.
>
>      I would like to ask what 12 dances do you think every dancer in the
> Outlands should know and why?  After we've seen some of the ideas from other
> Outlanders, I will post my own list and a summary of the results from the
> SCA list.
>
> Keith / Guillaume
>

At 11:41 AM 12/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> Which 12 dances should _every_ SCA gentle know?

Well, in my opinion, there should be ...

A couple of the early Italian dances:

1. Petit Riens (the hot "new" dance hit here in Caerthe)
2. Gelosia (lots of fun flirting)

At least one Burgundian basse dance

3. Casulle la Nouelle (very graceful and pretty to watch)

A few things from Arbeau (because once you know a few, you can learn the
rest pretty quickly):
4. Bransle Charlotte
5. Either Pease or Horses Bransle
6. Carolingian Pavan (Belle Qui)
7. Basic Galliards (Cinq Pas)

A couple of Old Measures:
8. Quadran Pavan
9. Black Alman

And some Playford:
10. Heartsease (another fun flirting dance)
11. Black Nag
12. Gathering Peasecods

Some late Italian dances would be good, too, but I don't know any that well
(yet), so I don't know which would be good for the basic "everyone should
know this" repertoire.

But I think this list covers a pretty wide range of what's out there, and
also has dances suitable for folks of different abilities.  I think the
easiest one on there is Quadran Pavan, which almost anyone could learn in
two minutes or less.  Horses Bransle isn't much harder.  And while there
are also some slightly more challenging dances, so folks won't get bored,
most of these dances can be taught in fifteen minutes or less.  I really
don't think we can expect everyone to know the high-power performance
pieces -- save those for us dance geeks who really wouldn't mind working on
just one really complicated dance for a whole practice. :)

And all of these dances are good building blocks for other dances of their
type.  If you've taught people Black Nag and Gathering Peasecods, they know
much of what they need for any of the "standard" Playford dances: doubles,
siding, arming, heys, the verse-chorus structure.  If they know Petit Riens
and Gelosia, they are familiar with many of the steps used in the early
Italian dances.

Well, that's my tuppence, anyway .............

Arwen

Let's see.  What dances should every Outlander know and why?  I'll try to pick
some of each type of dance and the easiest of those.  Last year, ECDs were the
overall favorite in Dragonsspine.

Heart's Ease (2 couple) A very popular dance because of the heavy flirting.
Some people show up only for this dance and grab anyone in the room for a
partner - so you should know this if you're going to be in the room.  Rufty
Tufty is not nearly as popular - too fast for the flirting.

Black Nag (3 couple) A good mix of complexity and repetition.  It's impressive
with alternating sets, but often leads to "combat black nag".  Jenny Pluck
Pears just isn't as well known.  I like Beggar Boy, but I think it's complex
for a "need to know".

Oranges and Lemons (4 couple) A very slow and elegant dance.  Great demo
piece.  I like it better than Hyde Park, especially when people have long
sleeves for tossing oranges and lemons.

Dargason (4 couple) It's nice for newcomers who can watch for a while as 4th
couple and pick up the steps … unless you're in An Tir where there were a heck
of a lot more steps than we have and I did NOT catch all that as a newcomer.


Sellinger's Round (as many) A nice intro to ECDs and harder to mess up than
Gathering Peascods.  It's a nice "grab and go" dance for demos - you can
usually grab people from the audience and get them up to speed in decent
time.

Female Sailor (as many) A long, active dance. If you don't know it when the
music starts, you'll get it by the time the music ends. I think Juice of
Barley is easier, but I've heard people scream when Female Sailor is
announced.

Belle Qui (as many) The basic pavane steps.  You can use it for a
processional.  Earl of Salisbury is much more interesting, but if you know the
pavane steps, you can pick it up.

Maltese/Official/Horse's Bransle (as many) Yes, 3 bransles, but they're
popular ones.  Look how many ECD's I've got up there.  I think these are good
because they have short stories/descriptions for the dances.  These are also
"grab and go" dances for demos … well, maybe not Official …

Gelosia (3 couple) I like Casuelle better, but more people know Gelosia.
Casuelle feels like water.   Gelosia's easier on the girls than on the guys.
Good demo piece.

Hole in the Wall (as many) Oh, the ever-popular, never-ending, non-period
dance.  I think this is supposed to be the #1 need-to-know dance for the
entire SCA.

Shouldn't be included in the list above, but I like them:
Whirligig and Verceppi - It's fun when everyone knows what they're doing!  We
almost had a demo set going …

Cetharyne (Karen Jordan)
Dragonsspine/Tygre's Keep, Outlands

P.S.  No, I didn't pick Black Alman!

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>Just had an e-mail from Gregory Blount, from Atlantia, and things look
hopeful for his attendance at Caerthen Dance Practice this week.  I will
let you know if this changes.
>
>We will be at the University Hills library this week.
>
>Please note that there is no Caerthen Dance Practice *next* week, and that
the following two weeks, we will be at the Park Hill library.  Please
e-mail me or check out the group files area at www.onelist.com for directions.
>
>Hope to see you soon!
>Arwen

sorry but kay and i will not be able to make it.  we had hoped to.  give
gregory our best, and if he has a handful of cds for us, please take them
into custody and pass them on when you see us.

elaina

On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Sheila McClune wrote:

> From: Sheila McClune <smcclune@...>
>
>
> >Just had an e-mail from Gregory Blount, from Atlantia, and things look
> hopeful for his attendance at Caerthen Dance Practice this week.  I will
> let you know if this changes.
> >
> >We will be at the University Hills library this week.
> >
> >Please note that there is no Caerthen Dance Practice *next* week, and that
> the following two weeks, we will be at the Park Hill library.  Please
> e-mail me or check out the group files area at www.onelist.com for directions.
> >
> >Hope to see you soon!
> >Arwen
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Still hoping for more input from others (maybe the holidays were a bad
time), here's my list of twelve dances everyone should know:

Petit Riens - lots of fun, 15th century Italian chasing dance.  Easy to
learn
       and still fun for the experienced dancer, and a fun introduction to
       Italian dances.  Did I mention that its fun, too?

Rostiboli Gioioso - A basic 15th century Italian Ballo.  Do one, others will
be
       easier to learn.  A slower chasing dance, this is sexy and fun.

Il Piantone - A very easy, fun 16th century Italian dance.  Any other 16c's?

Galliards (cinq pas & a variation or two) - THE dance for all of Renaissance

       Europe.  Period aerobics, the galliard looks great, leads to
variations
       like La Volta, and makes everything else seem easy.  Besides, they're
fun.

"Carolingian" Pavan (Belle Qui Tiens Ma Vie) - OK, its a modern
interpretaion,
       but its more fun than the basic Pavan in Arbeau and the music is
lovely.

Casuelle la Novelle (or Lauro, Joyoussance, or any bassa danse) - There are
over
       500 bassa danses extant from our period (music and/or steps), how
could we
       not do one?  Besides, they are pretty, easy, and fun.  Again: learn
one,
       and your ready for them all.

Bransle Montarde - Half of Arbeau is bransles.  We need a mixed bransle, and
its
       interesting and fun.

Bransle des Pois (Pease) - A cute mimed bransle, easy and fun.

Black Almain - Have to have an Old Measure.  This is as difficult as they
come,
       and its still a good, fun beginner's dance.

Gathering Peascods - A rousing, fun English country dance for as many as
will.

Rufty Tufty - A fun English country dance for two couples.

Black Nag - Ever popular basic English country dance.  This one is fun too.

      These are basic dances taken from 15th and 16th century Italian, 16th
century Burgundian, French, and English (Old Measures), and early English
Country (1651) sources.  Black Nag is 3rd edition Playford, but is
archtypical of three couple English County Dances.  Substitute Upon A
Summer's Day or the more challenging Picking Up Sticks and you stay with
first edition Playford.  The "Carolingian" pavan is a modern interpretation
of period pavans done to beautiful period pavan music (because the period
pavans seem exceedingly boring when your references are Arbeau and the
Quadran Pavan).  Remove the ornamentation and you have a period pavan.

      All of these dances are fun.  All are period or very like period
dances.  Once a dancer has accomplished any of these, many dances in the
same genre will be easier and less intimidating.  These dances cover every
major area of readily available historical dance.  If all are known, a
dancer will be well positioned to learn almost any new dance.

      I would like another 16th century Italian for the list, and will
eventualy want one from the Gresley manuscript (which is too cutting edge
for us just now).  Meanwhile, the Outlands can do well with the dances
listed above.

      Note that these are good dances for everyone to know because they are
fun, cover a broad range of styles, and are not difficult.  That said, there
are a couple that I have only done a few of times - and my new addition, Il
Piantone, I've only done once (but it's sooooo easy).  I think this is a
good (basic) list of what 'everyone' 'should' know.  Also, there can be no
final, ultimate list - this is just a starting place for thought and is
subject to constant review.

      This short list is for the casual dancer.  Those of us especially
interested in dancing will want to learn many more dances, particularly in
our favorite styles.  The list above can still serve as a reminder of the
range of historical dance embraced by the SCA.

      Up next:  some excerpts from the sca-dance list top 12 discussion.

Keith / Guillaume

-----Original Message-----
From: Swashbuckler [mailto:swashbuckler@...]

      I would like to ask what 12 dances do you think every dancer in the
Outlands should know and why?  After we've seen some of the ideas from other
Outlanders, I will post my own list and a summary of the results from the
SCA list.

Keith / Guillaume

Hi there:

      About three weeks ago, I asked "what 12 dances do you think every
dancer in the Outlands should know and why?"  The question was posted on the
sca-dance list last year and I was curious what the results would be here in
the Outlands.

      Also, while preparing for Caerthen Twelfth Night, The Honorable Lady
Caelainn (leader of our fine musicians) asked me to list the top 20 dances
in the Outlands.  She wanted to prepare sheet music to take with her to
every event so she would always have our most requested pieces.  Not quite
the same question, but similar.  As it happens, Caelainn ended up with more
than 20 and is willing to add more if needed.

      So what dances should everyone know?  No definitive answer is possible.

This is an exercise to evaluate and share where we are, where we want to
go, and how we view dance in the SCA.  I know my list has changed just in
the last year, and I expect it will in the future.

      I counted eleven people who responded on the sca-dance list.  Between
them, they named 65 dances.  One did responded with only eight:  galliard,
the sink-a-pace, the gagliarda, the cinque-pas, the tourdion, the gagliard,
tordglione, and tordion with the comment "If you can do these, you can fake
your way through anything :-)".  Yes, these are all essentially the same and
I counted them as one dance.  Most, however, responded with a variety of
dances.  They reasoned that everyone "should" know a basic dance in each of
the styles appropriate to the SCA's period.  Then it would be easier to
learn any new dances that are encountered.  It was noted that "should" does
not mean "does".  This is more like an ideal to be sought even if never
fully achieved.

      17 of the dances named were Italian, 16 English Country from Playford,
13 French from Arbeau (although two were suites of four, which totals 18
French [one duplicate] - not counting the pavan or basse dance), 6 were
Basse Dances, 5 Old Measures, and 3 Pavans (plus 5 others, if you're
counting, including a wish for a Gresley dance).  29 dances were mentioned
more than once.  I tallied the "votes", allowing one vote for each dance in
each list, but counting only half a vote for each dance that shared a spot
(i.e. "Grimstock (or Black Nag)" each got 1/2).  So, from the sca-dance
list, "what 12 dances should every SCA gentle know?":

Petit Vriens (8 votes)
Rostibolli Gioioso (6.5)
Galliards & La Volta, Tourdion (6.5)
Gathering Peascods (5 plus two 1/2's)
Ballo del Fiore (6)
Black Alman (6)
Branles Official (5.5)
Black Nag (3 plus two 1/2's)
Rufty Tufty (4)
Horses Bransle (4)
Gelosia (3.5)
Sellingers Round (3.5)

      That's three 15th c. Italians, Galliards (everyone did them), four
English Country dances, one 16th c. Italian, one Old Measure, and two
Bransles.  Except for Basse Dances and/or Pavans (no single favorite tops
the list), a pretty decent sampling of period dance styles.  Note that the
top seven dances were all mentioned by at least half of the respondents.

      I've done eleven of these and we've taught ten of them at Caerthen
practice.  Not bad.  I've also done nine (and we've taught eighth) of the
next twelve (plus Charlotte from "A bransle suite (cassandra, pinagay,
charlotte, and aridan...)").  Of course these are well known, and I've been
around some, so I "should" have seen them before.  In fact, as I go down the
list, I've never even heard of some of the less mentioned dances.  That's
regional variation for you.

      Few out of period dances were mentioned.  "Hole in the Head...er..umm..
Wall" got one vote plus a "just seeing if you're paying attention" that was
changed to Earl of Salisbury Pavan (a modern ornamentation of Quadran
Pavan).  That doesn't mean that nobody in the Known World does out of period
dances, just that the respondents to this question wish everyone also knew
these period dances.

      We are, of course, under no obligation to follow anyone's lists, but I
think its good to see what people in other kingdoms consider important.  We
can keep this in mind when practicing dances for inter kingdom events like
Estrella, Gulf Wars, or Pennsic.

      Moving on to the Outlands-dance list, we only had four responses to my
question (including my own).  Proportionally, I think that's better than the
SCA-dance list.  But we came up with 30 dances plus two non-beginners
favorites (Whirligig and Verceppe - I agree that they are great dances, once
you know them).  Our top dances:

Black Nag (4 votes)
"Belle Qui" (Carolingian) pavan (4)
Gathering Peascods (3)
Horses Bransle (2.5)
Petit Riens (2)
Gelosia (2)
Galliards/Cinq Pas (2)
Black Alman (2)
Heart's Ease (2)
Maltese Bransle (2)
Hole in the Wall (2)
Sellinger's Round (2)

plus:
Casulle la Nouelle (1.5)
Pease Bransle (1.5)

      With only four data points, I am not comfortable giving much authority
to this list.  Only Caerthe and Dragonsspine are represented, and I know
there are important dance leaders (not to mention active dancers) in Caer
Galen and Unser Hafen.  Al-Barran also has a fledgling but enthusiastic
dance group.  Unfortunately, I am not sure if these groups are represented
on the outlands-dance list.

      Hopefully, this will give everyone something to think about.  Maybe we
can try the exercise again sometime.

Keith / Guillaume

>      About three weeks ago, I asked "what 12 dances
> do you think every
> dancer in the Outlands should know and why?"  The
> question was posted on the
> sca-dance list last year and I was curious what the
> results would be here in
> the Outlands.
>

>      Moving on to the Outlands-dance list, we only
> had four responses to my
> question (including my own).  Proportionally, I
> think that's better than the
> SCA-dance list.  But we came up with 30 dances plus
> two non-beginners
> favorites (Whirligig and Verceppe - I agree that
> they are great dances, once
> you know them).  Our top dances:
>
> Black Nag (4 votes)
> "Belle Qui" (Carolingian) pavan (4)
> Gathering Peascods (3)
> Horses Bransle (2.5)
> Petit Riens (2)
> Gelosia (2)
> Galliards/Cinq Pas (2)
> Black Alman (2)
> Heart's Ease (2)
> Maltese Bransle (2)
> Hole in the Wall (2)
> Sellinger's Round (2)
>
> plus:
> Casulle la Nouelle (1.5)
> Pease Bransle (1.5)
>
>      With only four data points, I am not
> comfortable giving much authority
> to this list.  Only Caerthe and Dragonsspine are
> represented, and I know
> there are important dance leaders (not to mention
> active dancers) in Caer
> Galen and Unser Hafen.  Al-Barran also has a
> fledgling but enthusiastic
> dance group.  Unfortunately, I am not sure if these
> groups are represented
> on the outlands-dance list.
>
While I wouldn't presume to project a couple of exper-
iences on the entire group, I do have to comment that
I've been to a couple of Unser Hafen events that were
dance practices or had a large amount of dance
present;
it was about half and half period and OOP.  The big
favorite that gets done further to the north is
Circle Waltz.  I know that at the Caer Galen Dance
thing where Giles was GoH, we got frequent requests
for OOP stuff by people phrasing it as "When do we
get to do the *fun* dances?"

Also things like Karabushka and Troika.

Berengaria
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Hi there:

      I've noticed with some frustration that some groups favor out of period
dance.  This survey was not meant to discover the most popular dances (I
think the Macarena easily wins), but rather those which each of us wished to
recommend to the group as somehow 'essential'.  That may be the popular
dances, but it doesn't have to be.  In fact, as each group has different
fav's, I would suggest we try not to focus the "should know" list too much
on those.  That's why I suggested a variety of basic dances.  All but two of
mine were period, and those were at least plausibly period.  That this was
also, generally, true of the other lists pleases me.  (Note that the top two
dances, selected by everyone including me, are not technically period.)

      I believe that the SCA is here to research and recreate period
activities as best we can.  As we have plenty of documentation for safe, fun
Renaissance dances, I feel it inappropriate to spend much time on blatantly
out of period dances - there are other groups for that.  Football may be
popular, but it doesn't belong at a baseball game (and both are fun and
popular in their place).

      Some groups, unfamiliar with period dance, seem to fear it.  They like
their regency and modern dances with endless repetitions - they know them,
and if one doesn't know the dance, one will have lots of practice by the end
of one's first try.  By practicing and showing off the period dances I hope
to convince others that these are just as fun, not hard, and at least
equally valid.  Petit Riens seems to be working.

      OK, here's another question for everyone - what are your personal
favorite period dances?

Keith / Guillaume

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeanne Stapleton <apiskp@...>

>      About three weeks ago, I asked "what 12 dances
> do you think every dancer in the Outlands should know
> and why?"  The question was posted on the sca-dance
> list last year and I was curious what the results
> would be here in the Outlands.
   <etc.>
>      With only four data points, I am not comfortable
> giving much authority to this list.  Only Caerthe and
> Dragonsspine are represented, and I know there are
> important dance leaders (not to mention active dancers)
> in Caer Galen and Unser Hafen.  Al-Barran also has a
> fledgling but enthusiastic dance group.  Unfortunately,
> I am not sure if these groups are represented on the
> outlands-dance list.
>
While I wouldn't presume to project a couple of exper-
iences on the entire group, I do have to comment that
I've been to a couple of Unser Hafen events that were
dance practices or had a large amount of dance present;
it was about half and half period and OOP.  The big
favorite that gets done further to the north is
Circle Waltz.  I know that at the Caer Galen Dance
thing where Giles was GoH, we got frequent requests
for OOP stuff by people phrasing it as "When do we
get to do the *fun* dances?"

Also things like Karabushka and Troika.

Berengaria