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#155 From: "skmcclune" <smcclune@...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 10:18 pm
Subject: Dance Happenings in the Outlands
skmcclune
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This list has been pretty quiet for a while ... just thought I'd see
if anyone was still subscribed to it ...

For those who missed it, we had a great Caroso Dance Workshop here in
Caerthe (Denver) last month.  We learned half a dozen really fun
Italian dances during the day, and a couple more easy ones in the
evening.   We also had great musicians (including a couple of guests
from Early Music Colorado and a lord who drove down from Nordskogen
(Twin Cities), just to play music for us), and scrumptious food (Lady
Aethelind outdid herself, really!).  We can't wait to do it again!
(Only next time, we'll make sure to have a site with air
conditioning!)

In return for the visit the Early Music Colorado folks paid us,
Guillaume and I attended one of their events -- an evening of dance
and music.  Their teacher taught dances from Arbeau -- mainly branles,
but we also did a pavan and a galliard.

As far as upcoming dance events, there really isn't anything on the
near horizon.  For those lucky enough to be going to Pennsic, there
will be a wide range of classes, plus a couple of balls, and lots of
dancing in the barn in the evenings.  Make sure you check out the
dance floor -- we danced on it last year, and it was really nice!

For any Caerthens on the list, the Baronial A&S competition for
culinary/performing arts is coming up in September.  There is a
category for dance ... who knows?  Maybe someone will even enter it
this year!

Caerthen Dance Practice continues, every Thursday evening (location
varies -- check our link from the Caerthen web page at
www.sca-caerthe.org), from 7:00 - 9:00 pm.  For those who missed the
Caroso workshop, we are making a special effort to teach at least one
of these dances at each practice, so we'll remember how to do them.
We also have our usual selection of period dances, from ~1450 - ~1650.
And the library where we hold our practices *is* air conditioned
<grin>.

So ... does anyone else have any dance-related news?  Are any other
regular practices happening?  Anybody working on learning any new
dances?

Arwen

#156 From: "skmcclune" <smcclune@...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 3:37 pm
Subject: Caerthen Dance Practice
skmcclune
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Apologies to anyone who attempted to attend our dance practice last
week -- there was a mis-communication with our site, and they needed
the room for the last installment of their July travel series (July
32nd?).  Anyway, we should be back on our usual schedule this week.

Thanks, and sorry for any confusion!
Arwen

#157 From: "Morris Schaefer" <mtnsounds@...>
Date: Mon Aug 12, 2002 12:09 am
Subject: Fwd: Silver Pass update/new site info
mtnsounds
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Greetings everyone,

sorry this looks like spam, its less filling tastes great.  I told my people
that I would cont you on this list so here goes.  If this redundant, pass it
on to someone who isn't on line, like the fighters at practice, the archers
on the line, your populace at large.  The change of venue is going to be to
pretty site, some restrictions such a sparking and keeping food in your car,
not your tent, etc.  WE can live with them, it will be a lot more fun that
staying home for the weekend.

Hope to see everyone there,
Lord Sean MacLeod


>
>New and most updated Silver Pass VII information
>
>Incipient shire of Rio de las Animas Perdidas
>August 30 – September 2, AS XXXVII (2002) 12-noon open and 12-noon close
>
>Chris Park National Forest Campground
>41000 US Hwy 550 N, Durango CO
>Fees: $12 per adult, $6 per child, $15 per merchant
>The site is wet; Forest Service rules apply.
>NO open fires, no charcoal grills, no tiki torches, and no candles
>Gas or propane stoves and lanterns are ok
>Limited water, food must be kept in cars or bear proof containers!
>
>Autocrat/blameocrat: Lord Sean MacLeod (Morris Schaefer), 4334 CR 124,
>Hesperus, CO  81326, 970-259-3319, MTNSOUNDS@...
>
>Merchant Coordinator: Baroness Adriana of Riverhold (Adrian Bernhardt), 72
>River Road, Durango, CO  81301, 970-247-2740, Adriana.Riverhold@...
>
>Directions: From the South, East, or West, make your best way to Durango,
>CO.  Go north on Main Street (US Hwy 550) to the stoplight at 32nd Street;
>mileage is measured from this intersection.  Go 16.7 miles north on US Hwy
>550.  At the National Forest sign for “Haviland Lake / Chris Park”  turn
>right (east).  Cross the cattle guard and go 0.3 miles.  Turn right and go
>1.0 mile and enter the Middle Ages.  From the North: On US Hwy 550, go 6.8
>miles south from the entrance to Durango Mountain Resort (Purgatory).  At
>the National Forest sign for “Haviland Lake / Chris Park” turn left (east).
>  Same as above from “Cross the cattle guard”.
>
>This is an urgent message about the major site change for this event!
>
>Due to fire danger the original site is unavailable and we have secured
>this wonderful group campground.  We have the whole camp to ourselves to
>recreate the middle ages, we invite you to come help us play one last time
>before winter sets in.  Since this is Forest land, we have to park in the
>parking lots.  Bring a wagon or cart to move your gear; some loaners will
>be available.  Parking is tight; carpool if you can.  The campground is
>situated at 7800’ elevation, nights will be cool, bring warm garb.  Food
>must be stored in a bear proof container or in your car, it is a $5000 fine
>if you have a bear incident.
>
>We will chose a shire defender from the rapier fighters, a Defender of the
>Silver Pass from the heavies, an archery and thrown weapons champion.  For
>all others we will have contests that anyone can enter.  We have an A&S
>contest to be judged by Outlands A&S standards, brewing, best desert,
>drumming/dancing, and not one but 2 bardics.  Rio is hosting the southern
>prelims for the new kingdom level Windover Bard position, finals to be held
>at Crown Tourney.  We will also have a populace competition to determine
>our shire bard.
>
>Our shire is sorry for the late notice but we have no control of the
>weather; we ask for your help to spread the word.  Please pass the new site
>information to everyone you know; we want all gentles to find us on the
>first try, feel free to publish this notice on any group newsletter or
>e-list.
>
>
>
>




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#158 From: Sheila McClune <smcclune@...>
Date: Sat Aug 17, 2002 7:52 am
Subject: Fwd: Caer Galen Dance Practice Begins
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Subject: [sca-caerthescolaliaison] Caer Galen Dance Practice begins
Monday, August 26th!
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:21:41 -0600
From: "Doug Bates" <dcbates.lists@...>
Reply-To: sca-caerthescolaliaison@yahoogroups.com
To: "Caer Galen list"
<sca-list@...>,<caerthe@yahoogroups.com>,"Dragonsspine List"
<dragonsspine@onelist.com>,<sca-caerthescolaliaison@yahoogroups.com>
CC:
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@aol.com>,"'Meg
Baron'" <Meg.Baron@...>



HEAR YE!  HEAR YE!

The fair Shire of Caer Galen invites one and all to join in an evening
of Courtly and Country Dance.  Baroness Franschesca and myself will
guide us through the steps for many of the more common and playful
dances often enjoyed at our events.  We will initially focus on some of
the English County Dances described by John Playford in the 1600s.

Dances and music range from stately and reverent progressions to
jubilant frolicking.  We'll aim to keep dances simple enough we all can
enjoy and play with them, yet challenging enough to keep you "on your
toes".  No prior experience is required.  Our goal is to have fun!

Dance Practice will be held on various Monday nights from 7pm to 9pm on
the CU-Boulder campus.  We'll meet in Economics room 117, located on the
far west end of campus along Broadway & College Ave.  Allow some time to
find parking either on the Hill (which can be tough) or with the paid
parking on Euclid Avenue ($3 for 2 hours I believe).  Medieval attire is
encouraged but not required and guests are always welcome.

Directions:  Take Highway 36 to Boulder, exit west onto Baseline, Turn
right and head north at Broadway.  You'll see the campus on your right.
Paid parking will be to your right at Euclid Avenue and College Avenue /
"the hill" to your left.  The economics building is located just north
of the walkway which goes under Broadway at College.

This first practice (the 26th) will also serve as a Newcomer's Welcome
Revel.  As such, we may have some pizza left over from our earlier
meeting and would welcome bringing basic potluck snacks for everyone to
enjoy.  Easy to eat finger foods tend to work best so we can grab a
quick bite between dances.  :)

Anyone needing more information, rides, or crash space to ease a long
journey, may contact me anytime at my mobile numbers below.

**bowing reverently**

PS: Sorry for cross-posting this message.

  Dougal (Doug Bates)
[The long-haired red-headed guy with glasses who looks forward to
dancing with ya]
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#159 From: "skmcclune" <smcclune@...>
Date: Wed Sep 4, 2002 3:52 pm
Subject: Dances for Kids
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Hi, everyone!

Guillaume and I have recently been discussing the subject of good
period dances for children.  We've come up with some criteria, but I
was curious to know what the other people on this list might think.

Some guidelines I thought would be appropriate:

1) Don't need partners.  (Dance is scary enough without that whole
"partner" thing!)
2) Easy steps.  (Singles, doubles, turns, possibly kicking steps, but
probably not fancy Italian doubles/ordinari/semidoppio, etc.)
3) Short repeat pattern.  Probably not more than two or three
"sections" -- an entire English Country dance, for example, is
probably too difficult for a 7-year-old to manage.
4) FUN!  (This is probably the most important one.  Yeah, double
branle fits all the above criteria, but it's also about as boring as
it gets.)

Admittedly, these are all subject to change with the age of the
children.  For example, I would expect our young adults of age 12-14
to be able to do pretty much anything the adults do.  They also might
be more interested in "partner" dances (maybe ...).

What else should be considered?  Are there any parents out here with
some input on the subject?  I don't have kids, so I don't want to make
the mistake of overestimating their abilities -- or worse,
*under*estimating them!

Arwen

#160 From: Keith McClune <swashbuckler@...>
Date: Wed Sep 4, 2002 11:56 pm
Subject: Re: Dances for Kids
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Hi there:

Since I've already done some work on this, I'm going to jump ahead to
some specifics.  I'm still looking for ideas for guidelines, but I
thought I'd share what I've got so far.

skmcclune wrote:
>
> ... discussing the subject of good period dances for children.

I would add a short curriculum to accommodate shorter attention spans -
perhaps a maximum of three dances.  These might be very different, to
reduce confusion (i.e. avoid doing just circle dances or just 6 person
sets).

I while back, I made a list of easy dances that I thought would make a
good pool for introductory classes.  My intention was to work up
handouts that I could keep on hand for "no prior experience needed"
classes or demos.  I excluded trivially easy dances such as the
double/single/gay/Burgundian branles and the easiest Old Measures
because they aren't interesting (unless you bundle them together, which
is a different class).

Reviewing the guidelines discussed so far, these may not all be suitable
for first time kids (that's OK, this pool serves adults, too).  A
majority require partners (as most dances do), but some do not, and
others may still appeal to children (e.g. Petit Riens or Washerwomen's
Branle).  Some special steps are needed, but not many, and they are
still easy.  We probably want to select for a limited set, however, so
as not to have several varieties of doubles, for instance.  These dances
have short or repetitive patterns, and I think they are all fun
(although some might not work so well for kids).

This is my list of introductory dances, updated after the Caroso Dance
Workshop:

Casulle la Novelle   (long pattern needs to be called)
Amoroso   (partner dance)
Petite Vriens   (skipping dance, partners not critical)
Carolingian Pavan (Belle Qui Tienne Ma Vie)   (partner dance)
Branle D'Escosse (Scott's)   (easy circle dance)
Branle Des Lavandieres (Washerwoman's)   (amusing partner dance)
Branle Des Pois (Peas)   (hopping dance, but partners)
Branle de la Montarde   (kicking dance, no partners)
Lorayne Alman    (partner dance, and chow chow chow for kids?)
The Queen's Alman   (partner dance)
Candlestick Branle   (mixer - probably not for kids)
Una Pavana from Pavana Methei   (partner dance)
Due cacce from La Caccia d'Amore   (partner dance games)
Jenny Pluck Pears   (partner dance)
Rufty Tufty   (one of the easiest ECDs)
Upon A Summer's Day   (another easy ECD)

So, for children or kids of diverse ages, I'm thinking a good
introductory dance pool would be:

Petite Riens
Branle D'Escosse
Branle Des Lavandieres
Branle de la Montarde
Rufty Tufty
Una caccia da farsi in Routa (the pinwheel game)
Upon A Summer's Day
plus the double and/or single branle as a tangle line dance, which kids
usually like.

For demos or introductory classes, pick three (but only one branle
and/or one ECD).  Any other suggestions?  Ideas?  Comments?

Keith / Guillaume  S:}>

#161 From: Barbara Krege <krege@...>
Date: Thu Sep 5, 2002 3:35 pm
Subject: I will give this some thought soon, Lady Barbara, al-Barran--RE: Dances for Kids
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I finally have access again to a computer, after the summer.  I have been including children (ages 7 and up) in my dance practices, and have some idea of the ages at which some children pick up on some dances.  I encourage children to dance with us (perhaps not every adult agrees) at events, demos, performances, and practices.  You will see many adults in al-Barran, during any given dance, helping a child through the dance.  There are children in al-Barran who clearly love to dance and are excited about dancing and to me personally, that is the most important.  Also, the child is usually partnered with an adult, rather than another child, so the "partner" issue doesn't come up.

I'm at work, but will give thought as to specific dances and my experiences with different children at different ages this weekend and respond again soon.  I appreciate the topic and look forward to others' input.


Yours in service to the dream, 

Lady Barbara, a court dance instructor in al-Barran (Albuquerque, NM), 505-293-7453


  

-----Original Message-----
From: skmcclune
To: OutlandsDance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 9/4/02 9:52 AM
Subject: [OutlandsDance] Dances for Kids

Hi, everyone!

Guillaume and I have recently been discussing the subject of good
period dances for children.  We've come up with some criteria, but I
was curious to know what the other people on this list might think.

Some guidelines I thought would be appropriate:

1) Don't need partners.  (Dance is scary enough without that whole
"partner" thing!)
2) Easy steps.  (Singles, doubles, turns, possibly kicking steps, but
probably not fancy Italian doubles/ordinari/semidoppio, etc.)
3) Short repeat pattern.  Probably not more than two or three
"sections" -- an entire English Country dance, for example, is
probably too difficult for a 7-year-old to manage.
4) FUN!  (This is probably the most important one.  Yeah, double
branle fits all the above criteria, but it's also about as boring as
it gets.)

Admittedly, these are all subject to change with the age of the
children.  For example, I would expect our young adults of age 12-14
to be able to do pretty much anything the adults do.  They also might
be more interested in "partner" dances (maybe ...).

What else should be considered?  Are there any parents out here with
some input on the subject?  I don't have kids, so I don't want to make
the mistake of overestimating their abilities -- or worse,
*under*estimating them!

Arwen


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#162 From: "skmcclune" <smcclune@...>
Date: Mon Sep 9, 2002 9:37 pm
Subject: RE: Dances for Kids
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--- In OutlandsDance@y..., Barbara Krege <krege@a...> wrote:
> I finally have access again to a computer, after the summer.
<<<

Yay!!!  Welcome back!!!

>>>
> I'm at work, but will give thought as to specific dances and my
experiences
> with different children at different ages this weekend and respond
again
> soon.
<<<

I look forward to your response.

We have always included any children who are interested in the
dancing, but we haven't had one attending practice regularly in some
time.  There was a young lady (age around 12-14?) who participated in
the entire Caroso workshop in June and did very well.

One of the things that makes the upcoming class a little different,
however, is that the children will be dancing with other children,
most of whom also do not know the dances.

This is important for two reasons.  One is that, as we've noticed (and
I'm sure you have, too), it's much easier to teach a person to do a
dance when everyone else already knows the steps.  The other people in
the set can help pull the new dancer through, and there's someone to
watch when you don't remember what comes next. (We've see very
experienced historical dance teachers have difficulty teaching groups
of science fiction fans, for example ...)

The other difference is that any given kid will behave differently
when they are the only kid (or one of a few kids) in a group that is
mostly adults, than when they are one of a group of other kids.  When
they're with other kids, they might be more easily distracted -- or,
as I've also seen, they might also compete to see who can learn the
new thing fastest/best.

But then, you've got more experience with kids than I do ... what do
you find?

Arwen

#163 From: Keith McClune <swashbuckler@...>
Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:27 pm
Subject: Caerthen Dance Practice
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Hi there:

      As we enter the school and holiday season, our practice schedule once again
becomes . . . interesting.

      There will be no Caerthen dance practice tonight.

      Next Thursday we will be at the home of Lady Damia, 1901 East 47th.  From
the south, take I-25 to the Broadway exit.  Go north on Lincoln (which parallels
Broadway) until it merges back into Broadway.  Continue north on Broadway.  When
you reach the underpass area near Coors Field, the road will magically become
Brighton Boulevard.  Continue north on Brighton, past the Coliseum, until you
reach 47th.  This will be the first intersection (not counting off/on ramps)
after you pass under the elevated portion of I-70.  Turn right on 47th and
proceed for just over 1 block.  Lady Damia's house is on the right, just after
the 4-way stop.

      For the current schedule of Caerthen Dance Practice locations and
direction, please check our web site at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~smcclune/dance.html

Keith / Guillaume  S:}>

#164 From: Letter of Dance <letterofdance@...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 2:42 pm
Subject: Letter of Dance Help Needed (please read, trying to locate people)
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Greetings All,

If I could ask just a moment of your time.

First, the address I have for Diane Phelan
(Albuquerque, NM) bounced.  If Diane or someone who
knows her current address could contact me, I will
forward along her copy of Issue 43.

Second (and here's where I really could use help),
This week I received a check from a lady (I believe)
for a subscription to the Letter of Dance.  I looked
at it and tucked it away to deposit.  Unfortunately I
now can't find the check and I'm afraid it may have
inadvertently gotten into a pile of junk mail which
was thrown away.  If anyone sent me a check in the
past week or two or knows anyone who did, could you
please have them contact me?  Also, could you please
forward this e-mail to local lists and/or bring it to
dance practice?  I feel absolutely awful and I'm going
to keep searching for the check, but if I can figure
out who ordered the subscription, then at least I can
regain the lost information.

Thanks,
Katherine

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#165 From: Keith McClune <swashbuckler@...>
Date: Wed Oct 30, 2002 8:22 pm
Subject: Caerthen Dance Practice
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Hi there:

      This is just an update to let everyone know that we will *NOT* hold dance
practice tomorrow (Halloween).

      The web page did show us at the library, but we canceled to let folk spend
time at home with their little monsters (and superheroes and Martha Stewarts
(1)).  The web page has been updated, but I wanted to spread the word in case
anybody made plans before the update.

      We will have practices the first three Thursdays of November (skipping
Thanksgiving, Nov. 28).

(1) I have heard the "Martha Stewart" is this year's best selling/most popular
Halloween costume.

Keith / Guillaume  S:}>

"Aserejé ja de jé de jebe tu de jebere seibiunouva
  Majavi an de bugui an de buididipi" - Las Ketchup

#166 From: "Morris Schaefer" <mtnsounds@...>
Date: Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:16 am
Subject: Masked Ball location?
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Does anybody know where the Masked Ball in al-Barran will be held?  If so,
can you post directions for us out of town types?  The last I saw in the OH
was location to be determined.

Wondering in Rio
Sean MacLeod of Skye

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#167 From: Keith McClune <swashbuckler@...>
Date: Mon Dec 2, 2002 8:26 pm
Subject: Known World Dance Symposium (KWDS)
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Greetings to the Dancers and Musicians of the Known World!

The Fourth Known World Dance and Music Symposium will be held in the
Kingdom of Ansteorra by the College of Threebridges, June 6-8, 2003.
Mundanely, the University of Texas at Arlington in Arlington, Texas.

We are excited at the prospect of dance and revelry, classes and
learning. A preliminary web page is available and will be updated as new
information comes in, please check it often.
Address: http://kwds.ansteorra.org
Mirror site: http://ianthe.org/kwd

Thanks for all your excitement, interest, and support so far. If you
have any questions, please direct them to the autocrat, HL Philip White
(philipwhite@...).


Teachers:
	 For those interested in teaching, we will begin accepting class
proposals in December.  European dance, Middle Eastern dance, and Music
class tracks are all planed. The class schedule will be posted on the
website.

Reservations:
	 Reservations for site, housing, and dining services will begin
after the start of the new year.

Housing:
Housing is available to all symposium attendants in Arlington Hall.  Beds
are limited and are available on a first come, first served basis.
Arlington Hall is located on the East side of Campus next to the E.H.
Hereford University Center.  The University Center is where the majority
of events will be held.  The physical address is 600 South Pecan Street,
Arlington TX, 76010.

Hotels:
The Arlington, Texas Convention Center and Visitors Bureau
(www.arlington.org) offers two methods to search for a hotel.  These
hotels vary in quality and price.  Most are between 5 and 10 minuets away
from site.

Meal Plan:
	 A meal plan is available to all symposium attendants.  The food
is served in the cafeteria located in the east wing of the E.H. Hereford
University Center.  The University is the building where a majority of
the events will be taking place.


Airports:
Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport
(http://www.dfwairport.com/home.asp) is about 16 miles to the site, and
is about a 25-minuet drive.  Dallas Love Field
(http://www.dallas-lovefield.com/) is about 25 miles to the site, and is
about a 45-minuet drive.

Maps:
Map to the University of Texas at Arlington (UTA):
	 http://www2.uta.edu/housing/conferences/drivingmap.htm

Map of UTA Campus:
	 http://www.uta.edu/maps/

	 Map of UTA Campus with University Center Highlighted:
	 http://www.uta.edu/maps/map.php?id=UC

Driving Directions:
	 To UTA from Dallas on I-30:
         http://www2.uta.edu/housing/conferences/dallasI30.htm

	 To UTA from Dallas on I-20:
	 http://www2.uta.edu/housing/conferences/dallasI20.htm

	 To UTA from Fort Worth on I-30:
	 http://www2.uta.edu/housing/conferences/FtWorthI30.htm

	 To UTA from Fort Worth on I-20:
	 http://www2.uta.edu/housing/conferences/FtWorthI20.htm

	 To Arlington Hall from I-30 or I-20:
	 http://www2.uta.edu/housing/conferences/drivearl.htm

In service to the dream of dance,

Philip White (philipwhite@...)
KWDS Event Stewart

Lowrie Leulyn (nl33@...)
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#168 From: "Gabriella <mariagabriellaatzori@...>" <mariagabriellaatzori@...>
Date: Sun Dec 22, 2002 2:01 am
Subject: Classes for renaissance dances in the UK
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Hello,

My name is Gabriella and I am interested in joining a group
performing renaissance dances in the UK - London preferably.
I would be grateful if someone here could provide me with an email
address or web page to contact.

Many thanks and a very happy Christmas time,

Gabriella

#169 From: "violet_214 <violet_214@...>" <violet_214@...>
Date: Sun Dec 22, 2002 5:56 pm
Subject: Greetings
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I am just taking a moment to introduce myself; as I have newly
discovered your group.  I am not an SCA member as of yet, but I am
very interested in learning more about the group as a whole.  As I
also love to dance; I would like to learn more about the style of
dance from the Medieval and Renaissance period. If I learn enough
about it, perhaps I can "flame" the desire in our own small group to
learn as well. I am writing to you from Juneau, Alaska where we have
a small but faithful group.  Thank you for letting me have the
opportunity to "listen" in on your conversations.  Diane

#170 From: Keith McClune <swashbuckler@...>
Date: Thu Dec 26, 2002 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: Classes for renaissance dances in the UK
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Hi there:

      I'm always willing to help people get started in renaissance dance, but I
don't have any contacts in the UK.  This list is aimed at dancers in Colorado,
New Mexico, Wyoming, and surrounding areas in the USA.  Somebody might have a
contact for you, but I haven't seen anyone else jump in, so I'm guessing we
can't help with that.

      You might try the SCA-Dance list, which is international (and has some
better traveled participants).  To subscribe to the SCA-Dance list, send mail to
sca-dance-request@... with the following body:
SUBSCRIBE sca-dance youremailaddress

      If you have any other questions, I'd be glad to try to help.

Keith / Guillaume
Dance master, Barony of Caerthe (Denver, CO)

"Gabriella " wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> My name is Gabriella and I am interested in joining a group
> performing renaissance dances in the UK - London preferably.
> I would be grateful if someone here could provide me with an email
> address or web page to contact.
>
> Many thanks and a very happy Christmas time,
>
> Gabriella

#171 From: Keith McClune <swashbuckler@...>
Date: Thu Dec 26, 2002 11:04 pm
Subject: Re: Greetings
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"violet_214 " wrote:
>
>   I am just taking a moment to introduce myself; as I have newly
> discovered your group.

Welcome!

>      I am not an SCA member as of yet, but I am
> very interested in learning more about the group as a whole.  As I
> also love to dance; I would like to learn more about the style of
> dance from the Medieval and Renaissance period.

Well, I'll talk to anyone about historical dance, and I'd be glad to discuss the
SCA, too, if I can be of assistance.  Renaissance dance is just one of many
activities one may pursue in the SCA (and happens to be the focus of this list).

If you would like to pursue some research on your own, we have a couple of links
off the Caerthen Dance Practice web page (Denver, CO):
      http://home.earthlink.net/~smcclune/dance.html
Only three links are there, but each of these has a great many further links.

Unfortunately, there's not much to learn about medieval dance - they don't seem
to have written any decent descriptions (none that have come down to us,
anyway).  We only have general descriptions of lively (or stately) dances, done
in a circle (or procession).  It's not much to go on.

There are numerous sources for renaissance descriptions, however, starting in
1445.  I am familiar with most of these (generally), and know the details from
some of these (check our repertoire from our web page "play list").  The primary
sources for renaissance dance are:
15th c. Italian (Domenico and his students Ebreo and Cornazano) - 1450 to about
1500
bassa dance mss. (primarily Toulouse and Brussels) - 1445 to about 1530
16th c. French (Arena and, especially, Arbeau) about 1530 and 1589
The Old Measures (several English mss. from about 1570 to about 1670)
16th c. Italian (Caroso and Negri) 1580 to 1603

and, getting into the baroque:
17th c. English Country dance (Playford, 1651-1728)

These sources include balli, basse, branles, pavans, almans, measures, pavans,
galliards and tourdions, balletti, cascarde, and canarii (plus more), not
including ECD.  More obscure are Gresley (England c. 1500) and some of the
Galliard manuals of the 16th century.

It occurs to me that I should probably write up a timeline for these dances with
general descriptions of their characteristics.  Until then:  The balli are for
specific numbers of dancers (often two, but sometimes 3, 4, 5, or more), and are
noted for using two or three tempi and for their typical "chasing and catching"
figures.  The almans, bassa dances, measures, and pavans are processional dances
for couples.  Branles are line dances for as many as will (sometimes in
couples), and can be done in a circle.  Galliards and tourdions (which are just
fast, low galliards), usually for a couple, are lively jumping, kicking, and
hoping dances noted for showy solos and for their characteristic cadence "one,
two, three, four, and five" as in "my - coun - try - tis -- of thee" (same tune
as "God Save the Queen," which was originally a galliard).  The Canary is a
lively new dance (in 1580), involving stamping and a characteristic tune.
Balletti and cascarde are again set dances for a specified number (often one
couple, sometimes 3, 4, 5, etc.), and are noted for multiple figures, often
moderately complex, using a large step vocabulary.  English Country dances from
the early 17th century are characterized by fixed set sizes (typically three
couples, but sometimes two or four couples), and an archtypical verse and chorus
structure, where the verses usually progress: up a double and back, siding, then
arming.

>     I am writing to you from Juneau, Alaska where we have
> a small but faithful group.  Thank you for letting me have the
> opportunity to "listen" in on your conversations.  Diane

I'm afraid I don't know anyone else up your way (these days), but if we can help
answer any questions, please ask away!

Keith / Guillaume  S:}>
Denver / Caerthe

#172 From: Keith McClune <swashbuckler@...>
Date: Wed Jan 15, 2003 10:52 pm
Subject: Reminder for Tomorrow's Dance Practice
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Hi there:

      Caerthen Dance Practice will start at 7:30 pm tomorrow night (January 16)
at the Ross-University Hills Library.  Another group has the room ahead of us
(so don't go running in early and interrupt them).

      Next week we will be back to our regular 7:00 pm start time.

Keith / Guillaume  S:}>

#173 From: Keith McClune <swashbuckler@...>
Date: Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:33 pm
Subject: Dances everyone should know
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Hi there:

      A couple of years ago, somebody posted a question to the SCA-Dance list
asking for everyone's list of "top twelve dances everyone should know."  This is
apparently a standard question for the dance instructors at each year's
Northshield Dance Seminar (Barony of Jararvellir).  I recently came across their
list from last year:

Petit Vriens     15th C Italian
Bizzaria d'Amore 16th C Italian
Carolingian (Belle Qui) Pavane 16th C French
Galliarde        16th C Pan-European
Montarde Branle  16th C French
Horses Branle    16th C French
Scottish Branle  16th C French
Black Alman      16th C English
Sellinger's Round 17th C English
Black Nag        17th C English
Jenny Pluck Pears 17th C English
Picking of Sticks 17th C English

This is not meant to be an exclusive list, but a basic list.  More dances are
better, but, the thought goes, wouldn't it be nice if everyone had a common
ground of 12 dances they could do anywhere.  They do change the list every
year.  (Gee, if you learned each year's list, eventually you'd know a lot of
dances - do you suppose they've thought of this?)

Anyway, this got me to thinking what I would choose.  I would go for a variety
of basic dance styles, on the theory that once you know one, its easier to learn
more.  This is very useful when traveling (say, to Estrella).

My current list (for today, anyway) is:

Petit Vriens     15th C Italian
Geolosia         15th C Italian
Black Alman      16th C English
Villanella       16th C Italian
Carolingian (Belle Qui) Pavane 16th C French like
Galliarde        16th C Pan-European
Branle Charlotte* 16th C French
Branle Des Pois  16th C French
Branle d'Escosse 16th C French
Rufty Tufty      17th C English
Gathering Peascods 17th C English
Black Nag        17th C English

*if allowed to cheat, I'd make this the Suitte de Champagne:  Branles Cassandra,
Pinnagay, Charlotte, de la Guerre, and Aridan.

What would you put on your list?  Do you see any advantage to a list of "twelve
dances everyone in the Outlands should know?"

Keith / Guillaume  S:}>

#174 From: "skmcclune <smcclune@...>" <smcclune@...>
Date: Fri Jan 17, 2003 10:28 pm
Subject: Re: Dances everyone should know
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--- In OutlandsDance@yahoogroups.com, Keith McClune
<swashbuckler@c...> wrote:
> Hi there:
>
>      A couple of years ago, somebody posted a question to the SCA-
Dance list
> asking for everyone's list of "top twelve dances everyone should
know."  <snip>
> This is not meant to be an exclusive list, but a basic list.  More
dances are
> better, but, the thought goes, wouldn't it be nice if everyone had
a common
> ground of 12 dances they could do anywhere.
<snip>
> My current list (for today, anyway) is:
>
> Petit Vriens     15th C Italian
> Geolosia         15th C Italian
> Black Alman      16th C English
> Villanella       16th C Italian
> Carolingian (Belle Qui) Pavane 16th C French like
> Galliarde        16th C Pan-European
> Branle Charlotte* 16th C French
> Branle Des Pois  16th C French
> Branle d'Escosse 16th C French
> Rufty Tufty      17th C English
> Gathering Peascods 17th C English
> Black Nag        17th C English
<<<

Not to surprisingly, I guess, my list is pretty much the same.  The
only substitution I might make it to put in Ballo del Fiore as
the "token" 16th C. Italian dance, since I know they've done it in al-
Barran, and we've done it here in Caerthe, and that gives us a base
of people who know it.

>>>
> Do you see any advantage to a list of "twelve
> dances everyone in the Outlands should know?"
<<<

Funny you should ask ... the question of "what dance tunes musicians
should know" recently came up on Outlands Bardic.  Now, if the
musicians' list and the dancers' list could be one and the same ...
whenever we got together, we could all dance!

I think there would be a lot of advantages to having at least a few
dances that are taught everywhere in the kingdom.  It'd make dancing
a lot more likely to happen, for starters.

So how could we get such a list going, and spread it to all the dance
teachers in the Outlands?  Isn't Unser Hafen Dance coming up soon?
Would this be a good time/place to meet to talk about it, at least
with the folks that can make it there?

Arwen Southernwood
Barony of Caerthe, Outlands
(Denver, CO)

#175 From: "Morris Schaefer" <mtnsounds@...>
Date: Sun Jan 19, 2003 6:53 am
Subject: Re: Re: Dances everyone should know
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Thanks you for the thought provoking letter,
Your list is different than mine, I don't know 12 dances yet.  I have done
some at Estrella but didn't learn the names and can't really remember how
they went but had fun dancing all the same.  It also seems that we have
affew different favorites in the south half of the kingdom.  I agree, a top
12 or 15 list with music and dance instructions would generate more dancing
at events than is currently done.  Is anybody working on such a project.
I'd love to learn the music and so would my lady so we could provide live
music.  This past year has been spent gathering recordings of many dances,
now I just need scores to work from.  We can generate quality printable
versions if all you have is a hand written version.

I must also say, some dances are not suitabel for my aged knees, etc so I
may have a different list of favorites just based on the types of steps
involved.

Lord Sean MacLeod







>From: "skmcclune <smcclune@...>" <smcclune@...>
>Reply-To: OutlandsDance@yahoogroups.com
>To: OutlandsDance@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [OutlandsDance] Re: Dances everyone should know
>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:28:03 -0000
>
>--- In OutlandsDance@yahoogroups.com, Keith McClune
><swashbuckler@c...> wrote:
> > Hi there:
> >
> >      A couple of years ago, somebody posted a question to the SCA-
>Dance list
> > asking for everyone's list of "top twelve dances everyone should
>know."  <snip>
> > This is not meant to be an exclusive list, but a basic list.  More
>dances are
> > better, but, the thought goes, wouldn't it be nice if everyone had
>a common
> > ground of 12 dances they could do anywhere.
><snip>
> > My current list (for today, anyway) is:
> >
> > Petit Vriens     15th C Italian
> > Geolosia         15th C Italian
> > Black Alman      16th C English
> > Villanella       16th C Italian
> > Carolingian (Belle Qui) Pavane 16th C French like
> > Galliarde        16th C Pan-European
> > Branle Charlotte* 16th C French
> > Branle Des Pois  16th C French
> > Branle d'Escosse 16th C French
> > Rufty Tufty      17th C English
> > Gathering Peascods 17th C English
> > Black Nag        17th C English
><<<
>
>Not to surprisingly, I guess, my list is pretty much the same.  The
>only substitution I might make it to put in Ballo del Fiore as
>the "token" 16th C. Italian dance, since I know they've done it in al-
>Barran, and we've done it here in Caerthe, and that gives us a base
>of people who know it.
>
> >>>
> > Do you see any advantage to a list of "twelve
> > dances everyone in the Outlands should know?"
><<<
>
>Funny you should ask ... the question of "what dance tunes musicians
>should know" recently came up on Outlands Bardic.  Now, if the
>musicians' list and the dancers' list could be one and the same ...
>whenever we got together, we could all dance!
>
>I think there would be a lot of advantages to having at least a few
>dances that are taught everywhere in the kingdom.  It'd make dancing
>a lot more likely to happen, for starters.
>
>So how could we get such a list going, and spread it to all the dance
>teachers in the Outlands?  Isn't Unser Hafen Dance coming up soon?
>Would this be a good time/place to meet to talk about it, at least
>with the folks that can make it there?
>
>Arwen Southernwood
>Barony of Caerthe, Outlands
>(Denver, CO)
>


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#176 From: Sheila McClune <smcclune@...>
Date: Wed Jan 22, 2003 6:45 am
Subject: Re: Re: Dances everyone should know
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Well, my knees aren't as young as they once were, so it could be that
some of our favorite dances would work well for you.  That's one of the
cool things about period dance -- there's such a variety, you can find
something for just about anybody!

I know Lady Barbara was doing some of the dance stuff in al-Barran.
Don't know if she's on the list at the moment or not -- it kinda depends
on whether she has e-mail access or not.  Otherwise, if you're going to
be at Queen's Collegium, Guillaume and I will likely teach a dance class
or two there.

Arwen

Morris Schaefer wrote:
>
> Thanks you for the thought provoking letter,
> Your list is different than mine, I don't know 12 dances yet.  I have done
> some at Estrella but didn't learn the names and can't really remember how
> they went but had fun dancing all the same.  It also seems that we have
> affew different favorites in the south half of the kingdom.  I agree, a top
> 12 or 15 list with music and dance instructions would generate more dancing
> at events than is currently done.  Is anybody working on such a project.
> I'd love to learn the music and so would my lady so we could provide live
> music.  This past year has been spent gathering recordings of many dances,
> now I just need scores to work from.  We can generate quality printable
> versions if all you have is a hand written version.
>
> I must also say, some dances are not suitabel for my aged knees, etc so I
> may have a different list of favorites just based on the types of steps
> involved.
>
> Lord Sean MacLeod
>
> >From: "skmcclune <smcclune@...>" <smcclune@...>
> >Reply-To: OutlandsDance@yahoogroups.com
> >To: OutlandsDance@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [OutlandsDance] Re: Dances everyone should know
> >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:28:03 -0000
> >
> >--- In OutlandsDance@yahoogroups.com, Keith McClune
> ><swashbuckler@c...> wrote:
> > > Hi there:
> > >
> > >      A couple of years ago, somebody posted a question to the SCA-
> >Dance list
> > > asking for everyone's list of "top twelve dances everyone should
> >know."  <snip>
> > > This is not meant to be an exclusive list, but a basic list.  More
> >dances are
> > > better, but, the thought goes, wouldn't it be nice if everyone had
> >a common
> > > ground of 12 dances they could do anywhere.
> ><snip>
> > > My current list (for today, anyway) is:
> > >
> > > Petit Vriens        15th C Italian
> > > Geolosia            15th C Italian
> > > Black Alman         16th C English
> > > Villanella          16th C Italian
> > > Carolingian (Belle Qui) Pavane      16th C French like
> > > Galliarde           16th C Pan-European
> > > Branle Charlotte*   16th C French
> > > Branle Des Pois     16th C French
> > > Branle d'Escosse    16th C French
> > > Rufty Tufty         17th C English
> > > Gathering Peascods  17th C English
> > > Black Nag           17th C English
> ><<<
> >
> >Not to surprisingly, I guess, my list is pretty much the same.  The
> >only substitution I might make it to put in Ballo del Fiore as
> >the "token" 16th C. Italian dance, since I know they've done it in al-
> >Barran, and we've done it here in Caerthe, and that gives us a base
> >of people who know it.
> >
> > >>>
> > > Do you see any advantage to a list of "twelve
> > > dances everyone in the Outlands should know?"
> ><<<
> >
> >Funny you should ask ... the question of "what dance tunes musicians
> >should know" recently came up on Outlands Bardic.  Now, if the
> >musicians' list and the dancers' list could be one and the same ...
> >whenever we got together, we could all dance!
> >
> >I think there would be a lot of advantages to having at least a few
> >dances that are taught everywhere in the kingdom.  It'd make dancing
> >a lot more likely to happen, for starters.
> >
> >So how could we get such a list going, and spread it to all the dance
> >teachers in the Outlands?  Isn't Unser Hafen Dance coming up soon?
> >Would this be a good time/place to meet to talk about it, at least
> >with the folks that can make it there?
> >
> >Arwen Southernwood
> >Barony of Caerthe, Outlands
> >(Denver, CO)
> >
>
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#177 From: Mary Morman <mem@...>
Date: Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:40 pm
Subject: Rebecca of Lancaster
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For those of you who knew her when she was here in al-Barran, Kent and I
will be seeing Mistress Rebecca when we are in Boston over Valentine's
Day for Boscone.  We also may attend a Charles Garth dance practice.
  Happy to convey any messages for Rebecca.

Dances everyone should know.  Let's see.  Now don't shoot me -

Belle Qui Pavanne - with conversions
Cassoule
Gelousia
Official Bransle
Pease Bransle
Horses Bransle
Black Nag
Sellinger's Round
Gathering Peascods
Oil of Barley
Hole in the Wall (but should know it is OOP)
Earl of Salisbury's Pavanne (but should know it is fake)

elaina

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   to inferiors nobleness.
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#178 From: Keith McClune <swashbuckler@...>
Date: Wed Jan 22, 2003 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: Charles Garth dance practice
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Hi there:

Mary Morman wrote:
>
>  ...  We also may attend a Charles Garth dance practice.

Oh, I am soooo jealous.  I hope you do get to one - they sound like great fun.

Keith / Guillaume  S:}>

#179 From: "skmcclune <smcclune@...>" <smcclune@...>
Date: Wed Jan 22, 2003 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Charles Garth dance practice
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--- In OutlandsDance@yahoogroups.com, Keith McClune
<swashbuckler@c...> wrote:
> Hi there:
>
> Mary Morman wrote:
> >
> >  ...  We also may attend a Charles Garth dance practice.
>
> Oh, I am soooo jealous.  I hope you do get to one - they sound like
great fun.
<<<

Me too!  I'll have to see if I can find and re-post the description
of him dancing that appeared on the SCA dance list ...

Arwen

#180 From: Mary Morman <mem@...>
Date: Thu Jan 23, 2003 4:40 am
Subject: Re: Re: Charles Garth dance practice
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>
>
>Me too!  I'll have to see if I can find and re-post the description
>of him dancing that appeared on the SCA dance list ...
>
>Arwen
>
Kay has danced with him before, but I have never seen him.  So I am
hoping that we can go.  Kay did a dance camp with him once, twenty years
ago now, and said he had never seen a man who could jump so high or stay
up so long.

elaina

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   to equals courtesy,
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#181 From: "Morris Schaefer" <mtnsounds@...>
Date: Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:39 am
Subject: dance in period or not
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What is period?  Are you early or late within the SCA time definition?  We
seem to accept the Cavalier types with their light weapons, why not accept
dances of the same time frame?

As far a s Hole in the Wall; don't the good gentles get up and dance when
that dance is used?  I've seen the floor full of dancers that then stayed to
learn truly period dances. They would have just sat around the sides of the
dance hall drinking and making noise if they hadn't been encouraged to get
up and shuffle their feet and flirt a bit.  Is that so bad?  Its just like
the bardic circle with more modern sounding "folk songs" that least get the
performers started.  They do learn period songs and poems as time goes by.
Maybe its like going off to war the first time in a nylon tent and nylon
sleeping bag.  Eventually you get a periond looking or truly period
pavillion, a nice bed(feather of course), rugs, cook over a fire(is that
really safe in period?) and make every effort to be "period".

Please don't stomp on the newly interested gentles because they don't have
all the details worked out, or those of us that try to encourage the newbies
to learn and get involved.  I have a blast doing Hole-in-the -Wall and at
our Yule revel, we even say a stick jock actually dance and get it.  That
was a moment I will cherish for a long time.  The stick jock has been
playing for a long time by the way!

Now you have my opinion, see you on the dance floor o around a bardic
somewhere and enjoying every bit.
Sean MacLeod

ps.the link to Eric Praetzel's site contains soo much info.  Eric is great
at gathering music for dancers to use and musicians to learn and has the
copywrite info available for SCA use. SM

Snip-----
I know that Horses Branle dates to the 1580's, which certainly makes
it period for the SCA.  New Alman comes from a manuscript dated to
1570; Black Alman is first described in a 1594 ms.  These should also
count.

The others are all post-period; there are lots of arguments on both
sides as to why they should or should not be done in the SCA. (And
that's a whole 'nother can of worms ...)

Sorry I was unclear ... :)

And by the way, the SCA Renaissance Dance Page
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/dance.html has lots of good links.  Also,
one of the sites Gwydion posted
(http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/sca-music.html) is a great place
to go to download dance music.

Arwen





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#182 From: "skmcclune <smcclune@...>" <smcclune@...>
Date: Fri Jan 24, 2003 8:03 pm
Subject: Re: dance in period or not
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--- In outlands@yahoogroups.com, "Morris Schaefer" <mtnsounds@h...>
wrote:
> What is period?  Are you early or late within the SCA time
definition?  We
> seem to accept the Cavalier types with their light weapons, why not
accept
> dances of the same time frame?
<<<

Actually (speaking for myself and what is done at Caerthe's dance
practice), we do.  Our dance repertoire includes Playford's English
Country Dances from 1651 -- and one or two dances from the third
edition of the same book, such as Black Nag.

Though I do feel obliged to point out that light weapons were widely
in use at least a century prior to the Cavalier period ... <grin>

>>>>
As far a s Hole in the Wall; don't the good gentles get up and
dance when
> that dance is used?
<<<

I have a theory about that:

I've observed that people are happier and have more fun when they're
in their "comfort zone" -- doing familiar things in familiar
settings.  Hole In The Wall is in many peoples' "comfort zone",
because it's one of the first dances they learned in the SCA, and
because everybody else knows it, and they've seen other people doing
it.

It's the first dance they learn because the people who are teaching
it are also in their "comfort zone" when they teach it -- they know
it really well, they've taught it before, etc.

Which, in turn, is because they learned it from people who were in
their "comfort zone".  And so on.  I don't know for sure, but my
theory is that the first people to teach HITW in the SCA did so
because they were familiar with the dance from some other folk or
contra dance group, so it was in their "comfort zone".

Now, there's no inherent reason why HITW is the only dance for which
this can work.  It is, in fact, not really that easy to teach.  It
only seems that way because when it is taught in the SCA, the group
usually includes a large number of people who have done it before,
and they all help pull the new people through.  I have, however, seen
a very experienced teacher of historical dance struggle desperately
in trying to teach HITW to a room full of people where only a handful
of the dancers had ever done it before.  Let's just say it *wasn't*
pretty. <grin>

I would submit that if the first dance people had ever learned in the
SCA was ... oh, I dunno, let's say Petit Riens (a 15th century
Italian dance) ... they'd enjoy that just as much, and would in fact
think that a dance where you pretty much stand around in a line was
awfully boring. :)

Be that as it may ... I understand that for most folks out there,
expanding their "comfort zone" is not something they do readily.
There are people out there who will never want to do any dance except
HITW.  That's fine; I certainly can't force anybody to do any dance
they don't want to do, and even if I could, I wouldn't.  They
wouldn't have any fun, and neither would I.

On the other hand, I can and do try to create a new "comfort zone"
for people by teaching fun dances that just happen to be period.  I
also happen to derive a great deal of enjoyment from doing so.  And
after all, the SCA is supposed to be about having fun, isn't it?  If
I'm having fun, and the people I'm dancing with are having fun, then
we've all achieved our goal!

What it comes down to, I guess, is a matter of choices.  With the
wonder of the Internet, downloading music and instructions for dances
is as easy as a few clicks of a mouse.  So it takes no more effort to
get everything you need to learn and/or teach a period dance than it
does for a non-period dance.  The choice is yours.

I've chosen to focus on dances that are period or at least "near"
period; I think they're great fun, and I think other folks can and do
enjoy them too.  Other people are free to make other choices; I only
ask in return that I not be taken to task for making the choices I
have made.  Fair enough?

>>>
> Its just like
> the bardic circle with more modern sounding "folk songs" that least
get the
> performers started.  They do learn period songs and poems as time
goes by.
> Maybe its like going off to war the first time in a nylon tent and
nylon
> sleeping bag.  Eventually you get a periond looking or truly period
> pavillion, a nice bed(feather of course), rugs, cook over a fire(is
that
> really safe in period?) and make every effort to be "period".
<<<

Yep, I've been there and done that, too.  And there's nothing wrong
with that; learning as we go along is part of the fun of the SCA.
The joy of discovery is one that can't be duplicated.

I just want to help make information available so that when people
are ready to take that next step, they don't have to completely re-
invent the wheel.  That's also one of the joys of the SCA -- people
helping other people, sharing what they've learned, and learning
together.

>>>
> Please don't stomp on the newly interested gentles because they
don't have
> all the details worked out, or those of us that try to encourage
the newbies
> to learn and get involved.
<<<<

If I have "stomped" on anyone, I apologize.  My comments about period
vs. non-period dances were made simply because someone asked which
dances were period and which ones weren't.  Since I happened to have
that information available, I provided it.  That's all I meant to do,
really! :)

>>>
> Now you have my opinion, see you on the dance floor o around a
bardic
> somewhere and enjoying every bit.
<<<

I look forward to it!

Arwen Southernwood
Barony of Caerthe, Outlands

#183 From: Keith McClune <swashbuckler@...>
Date: Fri Jan 24, 2003 11:07 pm
Subject: [Fwd: [SCA-Dance] Estrella War Grand Ball]
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Hi there:

      For those who will be at Estrella this year, the ball schedule has just
been posted (I'd guess 5 hours worth of dances, 7 pm to midnight).  Note that we
do 15 of the first 16 dances here in Caerthe, and can help with some of the
others.  I will be happy to teach or review any of our dances at Caerthen dance
practice for those preparing for Estrella.  Just drop in and let me know what
you'd like to do.  If you call (or email) ahead, I may even be able to arrange
for printed instructions.

      We will be at the Park Hill library next Thursday, 30 January, at 7pm, and
we will be at the Ross-University Hills library the following Thursday, 6
February, at 7pm.  Our schedule (with directions) is on our web page at
http://home.earthlink.net/~smcclune/dance.html (click on "Schedule").

      I do not see a class list on the Estrella web site, but there will probably
be some dance classes offered at the war - take a few moments to check them out
while you're there!

Keith / Guillaume  S:}>

> Kirsten Garner wrote:
>
> Unto the denizens of the community for dance in our society does Meistres
> Julian ferch Rhys of the kingdom of Atenveldt send greetings and best wishes!
>
> As I know that there may be some here who shall be attending our war....
> On behalf of its generous hostess Lady Kathryne Gordon of the Barony of Tir
> Ysgithr, I would like to announce to one and all the Estrella War Grand Ball!
> On the night of St. Valentine at seven hours past noon (that being Friday at
> 7pm), the Grand Court Pavillion shall ring to the sounds of music and laughter
> as noble and gentle alike while away the hours with merriment and, of course,
> much dancing. All are welcome!
>
> Herein lie the dances for the evening:
>
> Belle Qui Pavan
> Galliard
> Bransle Official
> Rufty Tufty
> Heart's Ease
> Rostiboli Gioioso
>
> Candlestick Bransle
> Gelosia
> Goddesses
> Picking of Sticks
> Horses Bransle
> Petit Vriens
>
> Black Alman
> Amoroso
> Pease Bransle
> Upon a Summer's Day
> Cascarda - Chiara Stella
> Whirlygig
>
> Madam Sosilia's Alman
> Gathering Peascods
> Maltese Bransle
> Il Canario
> Newcastle
> Contentenza di Amore
>
> Well Hall
> Trenchmore
> Caidian Bransle
> Juice of Barley
> Heralds in Love
> Korobushka

#184 From: Barbara Krege <krege@...>
Date: Mon Jan 27, 2003 7:19 pm
Subject: Forwarding this from AtenDance list, Lady Barbara--Re: [AtenDance] Estrella schedule at the moment
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This is the latest posting  of court dance classes at Estrella War.
Yours in service to the dream, Lady Barbara  (al-Barran)
 

"kirstenng " wrote:

 Hi all...

Just in case anyone is curious, here's the current Estrella War
schedule for dance as it stands at the moment. :)

Thursday:
Track I
10-11am - Intermediate ECD (need instructor, or I'll take it :)
12noon-1pm - Flirting Dances (Mistress Gwendolen)
1-2pm - Three Late Period Dances (me - don't ask, I don't know what
I'm teaching yet either! :)

Track II
2-3pm - How to be a Good Dancer - me

Friday:
Track I
10am-12noon - Advanced ECD (Lady Kathryne)
12noon-1pm - Easy 16th century Italian (Lady Seonaid - Calontir)
3-4pm - The Old Measures (Lady Seonaid)

Track II
1-3pm - Dance People's Moot (general meeting/chat)
3-4pm - How to Lead, How to Follow (Lord Ryan)
4-5pm - Court Spectacles & Early Ballet (Lord Dughall)

Saturday:
Track I
9-10am - Walking Through Time (almans and bransles - Lord Dughall)
10-11am - Beginning ECD (possibly Mistress Elaine)
11am-12noon - From the Source's Mouth: Argeers (Lord Dughall)
12noon-1pm - Beginning Italian (Lady Seonaid)
1-2pm - From the Source's Mouth: Amoroso (Lord Dughall)
2-3pm - OOP Favourites (Lady Kathryne)
3-5pm - Circle the Dancers: Playford's Round Dances (Lord Dughall)

Track II
10-11am - Survey of Early Dance Sources (Lord Dughall)
12noon-12:30 - Bowing without Scraping (Lord Dughall)
12:30-1pm - Evolution of Footwork (Lord Dughall)
2-3pm - Reading the Past (Lord Dughall)
3-4pm - Intermediate Italian (Lady Seonaid)

Sunday
Track I
10am-12noon - And Cast, Cast, Cast, Cast (Lady Kathryne)

Track II
12noon-1pm - Dancers' Answers (Q&A session - Lord Dughall and me)

Anyway, that's how it stands at the moment. If anyone else wants to
teach, let me know! :) I'm happily accepting any and all requests.

Katherine (of Cate Hall), I've still got your Basic Bransles class
waiting for a time - when would you like me to schedule you? :)

Julian
 
 


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