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#19573

From: angelica.bright@...
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 9:00 am
Subject: I'm new -- hi everyone!

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Dear group,


I wanted to share some of the things I am learning with you. As we all
know the Bible teaches us in many places how we must treat our fellow
human being with dignity and respect. One of the main God-given gifts
that separates man from beast is the ability to speak. However, words
can build a person, or if misused, destroy him! It can sometimes be
difficult to stop ourselves from sharing some juicy gossip, or pointing
out someone's flaws, etc. The Bible teaches us, however, that by
practicing restraint in this area and speaking with holiness, we build
our spiritual muscles. Not only do we make ourselves better people, we
make the world a better place!


Blessings,
Angelica

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#19572

From: "Fr Stavrophoremonk Symeon" <frsymeon@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 3:33 pm
Subject: OrthodoxWest is an Orthodox Christian discussion group

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Angelica,

Recently you joined and posted to the Yahoo Group known as OrthodoxWest. Your post was an commercial advertisement regarding Israeli products. Do you realize that OrthodoxWest is an Orthodox Christian discussion group; not Orthodox Rabbinic group? Regardless of your awareness this Discussion Group does not accept any commercial postings. If you continue you will be banned.

in the service of Yeshua haMashiach,
Rev. Stavrophore-monk Symeon

OW Moderator

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#19571

From: scott6509 <scott6509@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: + OrthodoxWest Group + I'm new -- hi everyone!

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angelica.bright@... wrote:
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> I just wanted to introduce myself -- I'm Angelica, a newcomer to the
> group. I'm looking forward to being a part of your discussions! Please
> always feel free to email me at angelica.bright@....
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> Wishing you the very best!
> Angelica
> www.ibuyisraeli.com
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<http://www.ibuyisraeli.com/?utm_source=email1&utm_medium=email&utm_content=home\
&utm_campaign=holiday>
> Menorahs
>
<http://ibuyisraeli.com/Menorahs.html?utm_source=email1&utm_medium=email&utm_con\
tent=menorah&utm_campaign=holiday>,
> dreidles
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<http://ibuyisraeli.com/Dreidles.html?utm_source=email1&utm_medium=email&utm_con\
tent=dreidle&utm_campaign=holiday>,
> and jewelry
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<http://ibuyisraeli.com/Jewelry.html?utm_source=email1&utm_medium=email&utm_cont\
ent=jewelry&utm_campaign=holiday>
> from Israel!

You do realize this is an Orthodox Christian group, not Orthodox Jewish.

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Regards,
William Scott

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#19570

From: angelica.bright@...
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 7:58 am
Subject: I'm new -- hi everyone!

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Dear group,

I just wanted to introduce myself -- I'm Angelica, a newcomer to the group. I'm looking forward to being a part of your discussions! Please always feel free to email me at angelica.bright@....

Wishing you the very best!

Angelica

www.ibuyisraeli.com

Menorahs, dreidles, and jewelry from Israel!

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#19569

From: "Justin Griffing" <griffingjm@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: + OrthodoxWest Group + Introduction

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Dear George,

I've never been a pastor, but certainly do not miss liturgical functions. In my previous parish, I served in the altar on a regular basis. In the current, a lot of the parishoners think of me as the priest's assistant, sometimes introducing me as such. I am our typical chanter for Vespers and Orthros, fill in at Liturgy when there is no choir and the choir director is not there. If I'm not chanting at Liturgy, I'm in the altar. A lot of times, I'm at baptisms and funerals, either chanting or serving as a server.

I am in the Greek Archdiocese, so our services are all Eastern Rite. My interest in the Western Rite is entirely personal.

In Christ,

Justin

----- Original Message -----

From: George Gapen

To: OrthodoxWest@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:43 PM

Subject: Re: + OrthodoxWest Group + Introduction

Glory to Jesus Christ now and forever. Amen
Dear Justin,
I too am a convert and have been ordained a Reader. There are enough dedicated people in the parish that I am not called upon for any liturgical functions. In previous parishes I regularly helped in a variety of ways—which I, having been a pastor—miss. In addition to holding an M.Div I’ve degrees in English and art.

As an Anglo-Catholic I never met a fellow member of the devotional groups I joined. I never had a chance to visit a parish like St. Clement’s Episcopal in Philadelphia (suggest you check their web site). Repeated attempts to make contact with the WR inevitably fail . I live in SW PA and while there are a number of Orthodox parishes most are marginally attended and appear comatose.
. If you would like to see my art site or the OLW you can google or I will supply the addresses. Let me know. Of what jursidciction are you a member, is it WR and does your parish have a web site? Yours in Christ, +George

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, Justin Griffing <griffingjm@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Justin Griffing <griffingjm@gmail.com>
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> when the migration took
> place. I am a convert to Orthodoxy, having been
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> to that and a year
> or two of research into Orthodoxy before that. I was
> raised Southern
> Baptist and most of my family remains Baptist or
> Methodist. My family,
> thanks be to God, has always been supportive of my
> conversion. After
> moving to New England, I have attended a parish of the
> Greek Orthodox
> Archdiocese of America in the Metropolis of Boston, under
> his Eminence,
> Metropolitan METHODIOS of Boston. I was tonsured a
> reader at his
> hand. I have been married to a wonderful woman for
> almost three and a half
> years now. I met her through her father, who is the
> priest of the parish
> here, during my conversion to Orthodoxy after meeting him
> on one of the online
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> fact that I am an English major with a focus on Anglo-Saxon
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#19568

From: scott6509 <scott6509@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 1:50 am
Subject: The Orthodox Nationalist: The Cossacks

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http://reasonradionetwork.com/?p=4283

The Orthodox Nationalist: The Cossacks

October 29, 2009
Богда́н Хмельни́цкий

Fr. Raphael Johnson discusses:

      * The rebellion of the Cossack hetman Bogdan Khmelnitsky
(Russian/Ukrainian: Богда́н Хмельни́цкий)
      * The purpose and mission of the Cossacks
      * The fall of Poland

Fr. Raphael's website
http://rusjournal.com/

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Regards,
William Scott

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#19567

From: George Gapen <dumizzah@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 12:43 am
Subject: Re: + OrthodoxWest Group + Introduction

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Glory to Jesus Christ now and forever. Amen
Dear Justin,
I too am a convert and have been ordained  a Reader. There  are enough dedicated
people in the parish that I am not called upon for any liturgical  functions. 
In previous parishes I regularly helped in a variety of  ways—which I, having
been a  pastor—miss. In addition to holding an M.Div I’ve degrees in English
and art.

As an Anglo-Catholic I never met a fellow member of the devotional groups I
joined. I never had a chance to visit a parish like St. Clement’s Episcopal in
Philadelphia (suggest you check their web site). Repeated  attempts to make
contact with the WR inevitably fail . I live in SW PA and while there are a
number of Orthodox parishes most are marginally attended and appear comatose.
. If you would like to see my art site or the OLW you can google or I will
supply the addresses. Let me know. Of what jursidciction are you a member, is it
WR and does your parish have a web site? Yours in Christ, +George

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, Justin Griffing <griffingjm@...> wrote:

> From: Justin Griffing <griffingjm@...>
> Subject: + OrthodoxWest Group + Introduction
> To: orthodoxwest@yahoogroups.com
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> US.  Attempts at
> geneaological research have shown that my father's
> family came to the colonies
> from Wales in the mid 17th century or so.  My
> mother's family is from
> England, though I've never been able to quite pinpoint
> when the migration took
> place.  I am a convert to Orthodoxy, having been
> received into the OCA
> about eight years ago with a catechumentate of a year prior
> to that and a year
> or two of research into Orthodoxy before that.  I was
> raised Southern
> Baptist and most of my family remains Baptist or
> Methodist.  My family,
> thanks be to God, has always been supportive of my
> conversion.  After
> moving to New England, I have attended a parish of the
> Greek Orthodox
> Archdiocese of America in the Metropolis of Boston, under
> his Eminence,
> Metropolitan METHODIOS of Boston.  I was tonsured a
> reader at his
> hand.  I have been married to a wonderful woman for
> almost three and a half
> years now.  I met her through her father, who is the
> priest of the parish
> here, during my conversion to Orthodoxy after meeting him
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> fact that I am an English major with a focus on Anglo-Saxon
> literature and so
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> me.  Beyond this,
> I also find it beneficial to be in contact with other
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> in the West to see how others live out our faith in a
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#19566

From: "Fr Stavrophoremonk Symeon" <frsymeon@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 8:07 pm
Subject: Welcome

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Welcome to Orthodox West, servant of God Justin!

It is indeed an interesting twist to the "I meet my future wife online" scenario and who better to be the go-between! Anyway, welcome!

Please never hesitate to put out your questions. Don't wait for someone else to ask or hope it gets answered otherwise.

You want to know? You gotta ask!

your unworthy moderator,
Fr Symeon

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Autonomous Orthodox Metropolia of Western Europe & the Americas

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#19565

From: "Justin Griffing" <griffingjm@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 4:00 pm
Subject: Introduction

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Lest I forget, I am going to go ahead and post my introduction. My name is Justin Griffing and I live in the New England region of the US, though I am originally from the Southern US. Attempts at geneaological research have shown that my father's family came to the colonies from Wales in the mid 17th century or so. My mother's family is from England, though I've never been able to quite pinpoint when the migration took place. I am a convert to Orthodoxy, having been received into the OCA about eight years ago with a catechumentate of a year prior to that and a year or two of research into Orthodoxy before that. I was raised Southern Baptist and most of my family remains Baptist or Methodist. My family, thanks be to God, has always been supportive of my conversion. After moving to New England, I have attended a parish of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America in the Metropolis of Boston, under his Eminence, Metropolitan METHODIOS of Boston. I was tonsured a reader at his hand. I have been married to a wonderful woman for almost three and a half years now. I met her through her father, who is the priest of the parish here, during my conversion to Orthodoxy after meeting him on one of the online lists.

My interest in the Orthodox West group lies in the fact that I am an English major with a focus on Anglo-Saxon literature and so the Orthodox heritage of England is of great interest to me. Beyond this, I also find it beneficial to be in contact with other Orthodox Christians living in the West to see how others live out our faith in a contradictory, and sometimes outright hostile, environment.

In Christ,

Justin

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#19564

From: "Fr. Anthony Nelson" <fr.anthony@...>
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:10 am
Subject: Fr. Anthony's Annual Halloween Message

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The tradition continues:

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Protopriest Anthony Nelson
St. Benedict Russian Orthodox Church
Oklahoma City, OK USA 405-672-1441
mailto:fr.anthony@...
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#19563

From: DonPedroGordo <donpedrogordo@...>
Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:17 pm
Subject: the deacon in Sarum Use

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It is understood that a deacon will follow the particular usages of his diocese, nevertheless, are there any resources for general instructions to the deacon in the Sarum use?

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#19562

From: Joseph Suaiden <joseph.suaiden@...>
Date: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:09 pm
Subject: Re: + OrthodoxWest Group + Incardination of The Traditional Catholic Church (British Isles) - (TCCBI)

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On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Fr Stavrophoremonk Symeon <frsymeon@...> wrote:

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And why should we -who are Orthodox in Faith,�Mind and Body--�be accounted as witnesses of such a notification? What is it to us and those here? OrthodoxWest is a discussion forum for Orthodox topics! Do you wish to discuss how your community of men might be converted?� If not then keep silent or discuss the Right Faith as according to the guidelines of this Yahoo Group or be banded.

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OW Moderator & least of men,

Stavrophoremonk Symeon

From: OrthodoxWest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OrthodoxWest@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:59 AM
To: OrthodoxWest@yahoogroups.com
Subject: + OrthodoxWest Group + Incardination of The Traditional Catholic Church (British Isles) � (TCCBI)

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Incardination of The Traditional Catholic Church (British Isles) � (TCCBI)

Be it known, that I,

The Most Reverend John Michael Anthony Carroll
Archbishop and Abbot Nullius
And Primate of the said Church and Jurisdiction

Do hereby give notice that the Church and Jurisdiction has been incardinated into

The Igreja Catolica Apostolica Brasileira � United Kingdom (ICAB � UK):

http://www.icabuk.org.uk

The effect date being 19th May in the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Nine.

All former TCCBI clergy not forming part of the new Church and Jurisdiction have been notified of their excardination from the TCCBI.

It has been a great joy to become a member of a Church that is held in the highest regard by the Roman Catholic, the Orthodox and the Anglican Churches.

To ensure the continuity of the pure RC Apostolic Succession of the Church, (ICAB � UK), I submitted myself to re-consecration on Sunday 30th August 2009, in accordance with the pre-Vatican II Pontifical and the traditional Tridentine Rite.

May the Lord and His Blessed Mother continue to bless the work of the (ICAB � UK), and may it continue to be a welcoming Church for all those who seek to follow their vocation to serve and work in the Lord's Vineyard.

His unworthy servant

++John

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#19561

From: "Reader Joseph Suaiden" <joseph.suaiden@...>
Date: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:22 pm
Subject: Re: Incardination of The Traditional Catholic Church (British Isles) � (TCCBI)

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Dear Father Symeon, Benedicite-- I am not sure what to make of this email. It's obviously an official reference to his own people, not neccesarily ours; it's certainly a most interesting website. People of all ethnic backgrounds have come to us for scrutiny, and not all of them have been Orthodox. So I'd like to examine what he's saying a little further. Perhaps he wished to submit the idea of this "alternative Roman Catholic Church" to the Orthodox of the West for scrutiny. I see nothing wrong with that personally. In a sense, I'd say examining the claims of Western parties to being the Church is part of our "job description", perhaps?

If that's the case-- that he is in fact sending this to us as a statement of interest-- it's a very interesting case their website presents. I certainly have some questions for this "Most Reverend John Michael Anthony Carroll, Archbishop and Abbot Nullius" (what is an "abbot Nullius" in this case? Such abbies, operating on the Cluniac model in Orthodox Spain caused great destruction. Does he take orders directly from the Pope?)

Dear Bishop Carroll (and I say that without any implication of recognition, simply, because I don't know you),

On your original website, you claim that TCCBI (your original jurisdiction) was "autocephalous".

That website is here, for reference: http://www.geocities.com/tccbi/

So my first question is where do you originally come from, and from whom were you given a mandate for the episcopacy to begin with.

This designation "autocephalous" implies you operate in complete freedom from Rome. On the website of the church you are joining, however, it lists, as do most "Trad Catholic" websites, "His Holiness, Benedict XVI". It goes without saying that Orthodox Catholics (and by this we mean Westerns who hold the traditional Orthodox Faith-- big "O" for Ortodoxis, not simply little "o" as used in the Latin Mass) have not recognized "His Holiness" for the better part of 1,000 years, and with good reason.

Further, your website seems to imply formation of some sort along the lines of a "Society of St Pius X" or the like, a parallel, Roman church organization. So it seems that your organization looks less like an Old Catholic body and more like a "new Catholic" one.

Finally, I do not understand how you claim to submit to obedience to the Pope when your apparent founder, Bp Carlos Duarte Costa, rejected Papal Infallibility (putting aside the question of his left-leaning praise of God-hating Communism).

If there weren't so many questions about the direction in which you are heading your ecclesiastical bodies I'd likely just keep silent. But I for one would like some answers, out of simple curiosity. You seem to be heading further from Orthodoxy and closer to Papism and that seems even contradictory to the original founders of your group.

Are you asking us if this is a good idea?

In Christ,
Subdeacon Joseph Suaiden
St Eulalia Orthodox Mission, Bronx NY

--- In OrthodoxWest@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jmac1948uk@...> wrote:
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> Incardination of The Traditional Catholic Church (British Isles) � (TCCBI)
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> Be it known, that I,
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> The Most Reverend John Michael Anthony Carroll
> Archbishop and Abbot Nullius
> And Primate of the said Church and Jurisdiction
>
> Do hereby give notice that the Church and Jurisdiction has been incardinated into
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> The Igreja Catolica Apostolica Brasileira � United Kingdom (ICAB � UK):
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> His unworthy servant
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> ++John
>

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#19560

From: "Reader Joseph Suaiden" <joseph.suaiden@...>
Date: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:12 pm
Subject: test

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#19559

From: "Fr Stavrophoremonk Symeon" <frsymeon@...>
Date: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:08 pm
Subject: RE: + OrthodoxWest Group + Incardination of The Traditional Catholic Church (British Isles) - (TCCBI)

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And why should we -who are Orthodox in Faith, Mind and Body-- be accounted as witnesses of such a notification? What is it to us and those here? OrthodoxWest is a discussion forum for Orthodox topics! Do you wish to discuss how your community of men might be converted? If not then keep silent or discuss the Right Faith as according to the guidelines of this Yahoo Group or be banded.

OW Moderator & least of men,

Stavrophoremonk Symeon

From: OrthodoxWest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OrthodoxWest@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:59 AM
To: OrthodoxWest@yahoogroups.com
Subject: + OrthodoxWest Group + Incardination of The Traditional Catholic Church (British Isles) – (TCCBI)

Incardination of The Traditional Catholic Church (British Isles) – (TCCBI)

Be it known, that I,

The Most Reverend John Michael Anthony Carroll
Archbishop and Abbot Nullius
And Primate of the said Church and Jurisdiction

Do hereby give notice that the Church and Jurisdiction has been incardinated into

The Igreja Catolica Apostolica Brasileira – United Kingdom (ICAB – UK):

http://www.icabuk.org.uk

The effect date being 19th May in the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Nine.

All former TCCBI clergy not forming part of the new Church and Jurisdiction have been notified of their excardination from the TCCBI.

It has been a great joy to become a member of a Church that is held in the highest regard by the Roman Catholic, the Orthodox and the Anglican Churches.

To ensure the continuity of the pure RC Apostolic Succession of the Church, (ICAB – UK), I submitted myself to re-consecration on Sunday 30th August 2009, in accordance with the pre-Vatican II Pontifical and the traditional Tridentine Rite.

May the Lord and His Blessed Mother continue to bless the work of the (ICAB – UK), and may it continue to be a welcoming Church for all those who seek to follow their vocation to serve and work in the Lord's Vineyard.

His unworthy servant

++John

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#19558

From: "John" <jmac1948uk@...>
Date: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:59 am
Subject: Incardination of The Traditional Catholic Church (British Isles) � (TCCBI)

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Incardination of The Traditional Catholic Church (British Isles) � (TCCBI)

Be it known, that I,

The Most Reverend John Michael Anthony Carroll
Archbishop and Abbot Nullius
And Primate of the said Church and Jurisdiction

Do hereby give notice that the Church and Jurisdiction has been incardinated
into

The Igreja Catolica Apostolica Brasileira � United Kingdom (ICAB � UK):

http://www.icabuk.org.uk

The effect date being 19th May in the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Nine.

All former TCCBI clergy not forming part of the new Church and Jurisdiction have
been notified of their excardination from the TCCBI.


It has been a great joy to become a member of a Church that is held in the
highest regard by the Roman Catholic, the Orthodox and the Anglican Churches.

To ensure the continuity of the pure RC Apostolic Succession of the Church,
(ICAB � UK), I submitted myself to re-consecration on Sunday 30th August 2009,
in accordance with the pre-Vatican II Pontifical and the traditional Tridentine
Rite.

May the Lord and His Blessed Mother continue to bless the work of the (ICAB �
UK), and may it continue to be a welcoming Church for all those who seek to
follow their vocation to serve and work in the Lord's Vineyard.

His unworthy servant

++John

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#19557

From: Joseph Suaiden <joseph.suaiden@...>
Date: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:34 am
Subject: oops Re: Today: Holy Apostle Matthew (Orthodox Western Calendar)

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Sorry about that, I just realized I put St Matthew's life up and he isn't commemorated till next week.... (hangs head in shame)
Happy feast of the Exaltation of the Cross to all though!

In Christ,
Subdeacon Joseph Suaiden
St Eulalia Orthodox Mission, Bronx NY

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Joseph Suaiden <joseph.suaiden@...> wrote:

From the Prologue from Ohrid:

Matthew, son of Alphaeus, was a tax collector when the Lord saw him in Capernaum and said: Follow Me. And he arose, and followed Him (Matthew 9:9). After that, Matthew prepared a reception for the Lord in his home and thus provided the occasion for the Lord to express several great truths about His coming to earth. After receiving the Holy Spirit, Matthew preached the Gospel to the Parthians, Medes and Ethiopians. In Ethiopia he appointed his follower Plato as bishop, and withdrew to prayerful solitude on a mountain, where the Lord appeared to him. Matthew baptized the wife and the son of the prince of Ethiopia, at which the prince became greatly enraged and dispatched a guard to bring Matthew to him for trial. The soldiers returned to the prince saying that they had heard Matthew's voice, but could not see him with their eyes. The prince then sent a second guard. When this guard approached the apostle, he shone with a heavenly light so powerful that the soldiers could not look at him; filled with fear, they threw down their weapons and returned. The prince then went himself. Matthew radiated such light that the prince was instantly blinded. However, the holy apostle had a compassionate heart; he prayed to God, and the prince was given back his sight. Unfortunately, he saw only with physical eyes and not spiritual eyes. He arrested Matthew and subjected him to cruel tortures. Twice, a large fire was lighted on his chest, but the power of God preserved him alive and unharmed. Then the apostle prayed to God and gave up his spirit. The prince commanded that the martyr's body be placed in a lead coffin and thrown into the sea. The saint appeared to Bishop Plato and told him where the coffin bearing his body could be found. The bishop retrieved the coffin with Matthew's body from the sea. Witnessing this new miracle, the prince was baptized and received the name Matthew. After that, the prince left all the vanity of the world and became a presbyter and served the Church in a God-pleasing way. When Plato died, the Apostle Matthew appeared to the presbyter Matthew and counseled him to accept the episcopacy. He accepted the bishopric and, for many years, was a good shepherd until the Lord called him to His Immortal Kingdom. St. Matthew the Apostle wrote his Gospel in the Aramaic language. It was soon after translated into Greek and the Greek text has come down to us, while the Aramaic text has been lost. It is said of this evangelist that he never ate meat, but only vegetables and fruit.

In Christ,
Subdeacon Joseph Suaiden
St Eulalia Orthodox Mission, Bronx NY

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Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:54 pm
Subject: New Deipara Press books

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Milan Synod History, 2nd Edition Available

A new edition of Lux Veritatis, the unofficial but largest history of the Milan Synod in one book, is now available on Lulu. This edition has taken into account critical reception of the first, and includes more official documentation, such as the first publicly available translation of the Tomos of Patriarch Volodymyr, important dates in the history of the Synod for quick reference, and more.

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In Christ,
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St Eulalia Orthodox Mission, Bronx NY

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From: Joseph Suaiden <joseph.suaiden@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:47 pm
Subject: Today: Holy Apostle Matthew (Orthodox Western Calendar)

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From the Prologue from Ohrid:

Matthew, son of Alphaeus, was a tax collector when the Lord saw him in Capernaum and said: Follow Me. And he arose, and followed Him (Matthew 9:9). After that, Matthew prepared a reception for the Lord in his home and thus provided the occasion for the Lord to express several great truths about His coming to earth. After receiving the Holy Spirit, Matthew preached the Gospel to the Parthians, Medes and Ethiopians. In Ethiopia he appointed his follower Plato as bishop, and withdrew to prayerful solitude on a mountain, where the Lord appeared to him. Matthew baptized the wife and the son of the prince of Ethiopia, at which the prince became greatly enraged and dispatched a guard to bring Matthew to him for trial. The soldiers returned to the prince saying that they had heard Matthew's voice, but could not see him with their eyes. The prince then sent a second guard. When this guard approached the apostle, he shone with a heavenly light so powerful that the soldiers could not look at him; filled with fear, they threw down their weapons and returned. The prince then went himself. Matthew radiated such light that the prince was instantly blinded. However, the holy apostle had a compassionate heart; he prayed to God, and the prince was given back his sight. Unfortunately, he saw only with physical eyes and not spiritual eyes. He arrested Matthew and subjected him to cruel tortures. Twice, a large fire was lighted on his chest, but the power of God preserved him alive and unharmed. Then the apostle prayed to God and gave up his spirit. The prince commanded that the martyr's body be placed in a lead coffin and thrown into the sea. The saint appeared to Bishop Plato and told him where the coffin bearing his body could be found. The bishop retrieved the coffin with Matthew's body from the sea. Witnessing this new miracle, the prince was baptized and received the name Matthew. After that, the prince left all the vanity of the world and became a presbyter and served the Church in a God-pleasing way. When Plato died, the Apostle Matthew appeared to the presbyter Matthew and counseled him to accept the episcopacy. He accepted the bishopric and, for many years, was a good shepherd until the Lord called him to His Immortal Kingdom. St. Matthew the Apostle wrote his Gospel in the Aramaic language. It was soon after translated into Greek and the Greek text has come down to us, while the Aramaic text has been lost. It is said of this evangelist that he never ate meat, but only vegetables and fruit.

In Christ,
Subdeacon Joseph Suaiden
St Eulalia Orthodox Mission, Bronx NY

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From: Joseph Suaiden <joseph.suaiden@...>
Date: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:35 pm
Subject: Officium for the Feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross (Monday)

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Officium:

We that were exi-led from the monarchic majesty of Jerusalem when the first man fell, that have been station-ed in the world and washed clean by sacred Baptism:
+But as for us, it behooveth us to glory
In the Wood whereon the Source of Life hath been revived,
In the Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ;
Whose origin and ending is incomprehensible,
In Whom is our salvation, our life, and resurrection;
At hand for the present, He beholdeth in the same moment the past and the future.
By whom we were saved, and obtain-ed our freedom.
Ps. God be Merciful to us, and bless us, and shew us the Light of His Countenance, and be Merciful unto us.
Behold, let us tell of the wondrous splendour of the Cross' revelation:
But as for us, it behooveth us to glory in the Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ;
Suspended therefrom, Our Lord redeem-ed the world from death, He That was slaughter-ed as a Sacrificial Lamb for our sake by the shedding of His Blood,
In Whom is our salvation, our life and resurrection;
In which we all hold fast the Faith, for now is Our Creator Arisen,
By whom we were saved, and obtain-ed our freedom.
V. Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, + and to the Holy Ghost. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, throughout the ages of ages. Amen.
Resounding with our voices let us give praise to Him That is Enthron-ed upon the Cross,
But as for us it behooveth us to glory
All ye, put your Faith in Him That is Fasten-ed to the Tree of rending,
In the Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ; in whom is our salvation, our life and resurrection;
All ye, put your Faith in Him that is Enthron-ed upon the Tree that hath establish-ed Peace,
By whom we were sa-ved, and obtain-ed our freedom.

In Christ,
Subdeacon Joseph Suaiden
St Eulalia Orthodox Mission, Bronx NY

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#19553

From: "Fr Stavrophoremonk Symeon" <frsymeon@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:26 pm
Subject: Today is Commemorated the elder and Spiritbearer St Silouan of Mt Athos

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Today is Commemorated the elder and Spiritbearer St Silouan of Mt Athos

Read his Vita: http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/english/siluan_e.htm

or Watch & Listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWWAADPE5Lk

Prayers to St Silouan

Glory to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit

Holy Father Silouan, the fragrant odor of thy virtues is poured forth in the Church honoring thee this day; and the angels exult in Heaven, because thy love for God caused thee to shed abundant tears, which irrigate today the desert of human hearts burnt by despair. Thou hast followed Christ and treasured as a precious pearl His holy Name in thy heart; and the Holy Spirit, Who testified to the truth of thy salvation, enabled thee to love all men and wish that they be saved. With thee we honor and bless the Most Holy Trinity, and pray with fervor that we and all peoples of the earth may be given to recognize and honor our God and Lord through the Holy Spirit.

Both Now and Ever and Unto the Ages of Ages, Amen:

During thy life on earth thou didst serve Christ, following His path and now in Heaven thou dost contemplate Him Whom thou hast loved; dwelling with Him as He promised to His elect, O holy Father Silouan, instruct us in the way that thou hast gone.

Theotokion,

Who will not glorify thee, O Most Holy Virgin, who will not hymn thy most pure giving of birth; the Only-begotten Son, Who hath shone forth from the Father before the ages, hath come also from thee, O Pure One, unutterably incarnate, being in nature God, and having become in nature man for our sake, not divided in two persons, but made known in two Natures without fusion, to Him pray, O Pure and All-blessed one, that there may be mercy on our souls.

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of Hermitage of St John the Theologian
a dependency of Abbey of the Holy Name

(West Milford, NJ)

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From: Douglas Lewins <lindisfarnensis@...>
Date: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:18 pm
Subject: Re: + OrthodoxWest Group + New Bishop for Milan Synod in Spain; New Parish in Aquila

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May the new Bishop of Segorbe be a true shepherd to his flock and may Fr Justinian confirm the faith of the believers and welcome the unbelievers. God’s blessing on them both.

+Douglas

Most Rev Douglas Lewins

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:13:41 -0400
To: OW <OrthodoxWest@yahoogroups.com>, <Ortodoxis@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: + OrthodoxWest Group + New Bishop for Milan Synod in Spain; New Parish in Aquila

(ortodossia-in-occidente) In the Milan Synod there are two items worthy of note. The diocese of Spain has been restored to its traditional rank of Archdiocese in the Autonomous Western Synod, and Chorbishop Idelfonso, one of the two chorbishops of the Archdiocese of Spain, has been elevated to the rank of Bishop of Segorbe and given a rank, for the present, as a direct vicariate of Milan. This gives the Spanish Church two Bishops, and restores the diocese of Segorbe, which in its Orthodox period lost its see in the early 8th century, when the cathedral was converted to a Mosque in the Mozarabic period.

As well, a new parish in the Aquila region has opened thanks to the requests of many Old Calendarists in the region to Metropolitan Eulogius. The new parish is named after the Archangels Gabriel and Michael and is pastored by Fr Justinian, a Romanian hieromonk with our Synod. Many years!

In Christ,
Subdeacon Joseph Suaiden
St Eulalia Orthodox Mission, Bronx NY

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From: Joseph Suaiden <joseph.suaiden@...>
Date: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:13 pm
Subject: New Bishop for Milan Synod in Spain; New Parish in Aquila

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(ortodossia-in-occidente) In the Milan Synod there are two items worthy of note. The diocese of Spain has been restored to its traditional rank of Archdiocese in the Autonomous Western Synod, and Chorbishop Idelfonso, one of the two chorbishops of the Archdiocese of Spain, has been elevated to the rank of Bishop of Segorbe and given a rank, for the present, as a direct vicariate of Milan. This gives the Spanish Church two Bishops, and restores the diocese of Segorbe, which in its Orthodox period lost its see in the early 8th century, when the cathedral was converted to a Mosque in the Mozarabic period.

As well, a new parish in the Aquila region has opened thanks to the requests of many Old Calendarists in the region to Metropolitan Eulogius. The new parish is named after the Archangels Gabriel and Michael and is pastored by Fr Justinian, a Romanian hieromonk with our Synod. Many years!

In Christ,
Subdeacon Joseph Suaiden
St Eulalia Orthodox Mission, Bronx NY

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#19550

From: Joseph Suaiden <joseph.suaiden@...>
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 4:52 am
Subject: Memory Eternal!

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In the United States died oldest cleric ROAC Protopresbyter Vladimir Shishkov

��, 2 ��, � �� . Yesterday, September 2, in the United States quietly departed to the Lord is one of the prominent clergymen of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia and later the Orthodox Autonomous Church Protopresbyter. �� . Vladimir Shishkov.
�� . Burial of the deceased will be committed synod ROAC in the United States, headed by the Primate Metropolitan Valentine of Suzdal and the Vladimir.

More forthcoming.
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#19549

From: DonPedroGordo <donpedrogordo@...>
Date: Tue Sep 1, 2009 11:01 am
Subject: a recommendation for spiritual reading

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For those who wish to develop an Orthodox mind set, the liturgical texts of the church are primary reading. There are many excellent texts for additional prayerful reading, here is a personal favorite:

Spiritual Psalter of St. Ephraim
St. Ephraim the Syrian
A collection of hymns, compiled from the writings of St. Ephraim by Bishop Theophan the Recluse. This was one of the favorite sources of reading for monastics in prerevolutianary Russia. Second edition, printed in red & black on high quality paper, gilded edges, ribbon, gold-stamped flexible case-binding.

Item# 2040 - Hardbound $30.00

Item# 2239 - Genuine Leather $60.00.

http://www.sjkp.org

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From: DonPedroGordo <donpedrogordo@...>
Date: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:17 pm
Subject: Re: FYI now in English: The Russian Orthodox Psalter

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re The Russian Orthodox Psalter:

A reminder that this is an English language edition of the Slavonic use liturgical Psalter for home use or as some say, for domestic use. This is not a Russian language text.

My own copy arrived in the mail today. The Russian Orthodox Psalter is some 340 pages 8.5" x 11" in spiral binding, red and black ink, in what looks to be about a 12 or 14 point text.

The unique quality of the Slavonic use is the inclusion of Orthodox prayers before reading the Psalter and Orthodox prayers following each kathisma. The 20 kathisma and stases of the kathismata are indicated.

Included inter alia are the canticles for use at matins and the prayers at the departure of the soul from the body.

The text is according to the Septuagint with some adjustment to the Slavonic and some useful footnotes regarding the text.

My personal use of the text leads me to consider this a great blessing for those who read English and wish to cultivate genuinely Orthodox piety at home.

It is hoped that this clarifies the offer for those who are not accustomed to the Slavonic tradition.

Reader Peter

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Peter Brandt-Sorheim <PBrandt-Sorheim@...> wrote:

From: Peter Brandt-Sorheim <PBrandt-Sorheim@...>
Subject: FYI now in English: The Russian Orthodox Psalter
To: metmakarios@...
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 10:04 AM

The Russian Orthodox Psalter
available by this name on amazon.com

   as a Kindle edition

[or as known in Slavonic:

    the Liturgical Psalter]

is now available in ENGLISH

in book form

from the publisher

for $40 postpaid

[check is acceptable];

send to:

PARADISE PRESS

PO Box 530

Rye, NH 03870

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The publisher wrote:

...$40 pp (my cost).

Send a check, payable to

Paradise Press,

PO Box 530,

Rye, NH 03870,

and I will send a copy by return mail.
David James

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From: DonPedroGordo <donpedrogordo@...>
Date: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:51 am
Subject: FYI the Orthodox Psalter in English

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The Russian Orthodox Psalter

available by this name on amazon.com as a Kindle edition

[or as known in Slavonic: the Liturgical Psalter]

is now available in ENGLISH in book form from the publisher for $40 postpaid [check is acceptable]:

PARADISE PRESS

PO Box 530

Rye, NH 03870

-------------------

The publisher wrote:

...$40 pp (my cost).

Send a check, payable to

Paradise Press,

PO Box 530,

Rye, NH 03870,

and I will send a copy by return mail.
David James

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#19546

From: Joseph Suaiden <joseph.suaiden@...>
Date: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:48 pm
Subject: Two weeks of fruits!

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In the Orthodox Western rites, the feast of St James the Greater will take place on July 25, Church calendar, and the feast of the Transfiguration on August 6 (Church calendar).

Contrary to common assumptions concerning the Hispano-Orthodox ritual, the feast falls on the same day for St James as the rest of the Orthodox West; the feast of 12/30 is actually originally the feast of the translation of St James to Galicia, and only later became known as "the feast of St James". (witness the Santoral of Rabi Ben Zaid, 961).

On the feast of St James, apples are blessed.
On the feast of the Transfiguration, grapes are blessed.

I hope to later print the texts for the blessings of fruits; anyone over the rank of reader may do so with a missa sicca, in the case that it is not possible to reach a church for the services; and it is a good tradition to follow. So may we have a fruitful two weeks of feasts. Yes, the pun was intended.
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From: Xenia Suaiden <nycexs@...>
Date: Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:12 am
Subject: Fwd: [Occidentalis] Video of Mass for Sts. Peter and Paul at Holy Name Abbey (Western Orthodox)

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Date: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Subject: [Occidentalis] Video of Mass for Sts. Peter and Paul at Holy Name Abbey (Western Orthodox)
To: Occidentalis@yahoogroups.com

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89I-S_76bhc

Above is a link to the youtube video post of our recent Mass for Sts. Peter and Paul which fell on Sunday this year. It is about 10 minutes, and contains only things from the first part of the Mass, ending with the Offertory and the hymn sung after the offertory (Veni Creator).

I'm the subdeacon in the video. The visual quality is quite good, but, the audio is not so well due to the peculiar architecture of the chapel. I beg indulgence for any less the good singing.

The video begins with the last prayer from the Bidding of the Bedes ("We offer Thee, Lord Jesus Christ..."), then goes into the processional antiphon back into the choir then sanctuary, followed by the cantor chanting the Introit, the foot prayers being done simultaneously. Since it is a special feast day, there are Kyrie verses, instead of a plain 9x Kyrie which is the standard for non-feast days and the vast majority of other days, Sundays included.
The Kyrie is sung as the altar is incensed, then the Gloria (can be heard that well), then the collects, and followed by the making of a sub-deacon, and then the Offertory.

Any question or criticism?

If you look real hard, you can see the sanctuary with the altar cross, which is kind of a hard kind to find. It was a gift from a Croatian Roman Catholic man years ago. I always liked it, especially since it had the tabernacle at the bottom, and two little images of Our Lady and St. John standing at the foot of the cross.

Elsewhere on the altar are things associated with the bishop's rank. The eastern mitre is on the back right, obscured, and the western mitre is on the other side. There are some trikiri or dikiri, and fans, none of which are used. If we had a better place to put them, we would. Sorry for anyone scandalized. No storage room fitting left.

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From: Joseph Suaiden <joseph.suaiden@...>
Date: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:57 pm
Subject: Re: + OrthodoxWest Group + Re: Sts Peter and Paul Sarum Rite video up

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Thanks, Father, but thank my wife for putting it together!

A sinner,
Subdeacon Joseph Suaiden

Administrator, St Eulalia Orthodox Mission, Bronx, NY
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Aidanus <hieromonachusaidanus@...> wrote:

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Dear in Christ, rr. Joseph,

--- In OrthodoxWest@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Suaiden <joseph.suaiden@...> wrote:
>
> We have some video from this Sunday's feast up here:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89I-S_76bhc&feature=channel_page
>
> The audio is far from perfect, but this second video is far superior to the
> first we put up! Comments welcome.

I look forward to viewing the video clip soon; thanks for putting it up.

Fr. Aidan+
a sinner

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