... No, it does not. You are slipping in an additional unstated premise to entail that God need not be involved. You are slipping in an unstated premise about...
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osoclasi
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
TR:Sure you can. Just take some very large test tubes, and label them 1 - 7. In each test tube put an earth populated with dinosaurs in each one. Response:...
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D R Lindberg
notdoctor
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
... the ... of ... this ... I'd ... attempts ... may be seeking as evidence, you just can't answer that question. And I understand; you find yourself on such...
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Truman
seekeththee
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
The Imminent Demise of Evolution: The Longest Running Falsehood in Creationism "In recent reading, Dembski and other ID proponents make the claim that...
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D R Lindberg
notdoctor
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
... sometimes we can . . .and sometimes we can't' to be tested? How is it falsifiable, to use a big word that IDers seem to like." ... design has been...
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JamesG
jimmygoff2001
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
Me: "I'm quite willing to say that I might be wrong." D R Lindberg: "So you say, but then demonstrate the opposite by your mental convolutions above, which, if...
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Charles Palm
palmcharles
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
Gluadys: A fellow named Michael Dowd (Thank God for Evolution) has a good video on that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDMOF7qtlh8 Phillip E Johnson:...
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Charles Palm
palmcharles
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
Gluadys: If God designed everything in nature, then everything in nature DOES exhibit the characteristics of design. But since science can only infer...
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JamesG
jimmygoff2001
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
gluadys: "This is the weakness of ID. To make design 'detectable' you have to make it less than universally present. So, theistically, you have to exclude God...
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JamesG
jimmygoff2001
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
Hmmmm....Very interesting (as Arte Johnson might have said). http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/01/publish_the_cla068361.html Jim in Missouri...
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D R Lindberg
notdoctor
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
... Radiometric ... And you and those you quote are busily doing your best to increase the confusion. ... Great start! A useful rule of thumb for identifying...
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VictorM
ptolemy1022
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
The Sloan Digital Sky Survey found a monster string of quasars spanning 17 degrees of our sky. An article in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical...
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JamesG
jimmygoff2001
Jan 18, 2013 12:41 am
Me: "No phenomenon fully explained naturally entails that God was not involved, but it does entail that God need not have been involved." gluadys: "No, it does...
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Charles Palm
palmcharles
Jan 18, 2013 2:26 pm
Geochronology: http://www.geo.cornell.edu/geology/classes/Geo656/656notes05/656_05Lecture04.pdf There are two important assumptions, or conditions, built into...
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osoclasi
Jan 18, 2013 2:26 pm
GL: Apparently you didn't read my last post very well. "How" evolution happens is just what scientists are most certain about. Response: Hey Gluadys, no I was...
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Laurie Appleton
lkappleus
Jan 18, 2013 2:26 pm
... From: D R Lindberg To: OriginsTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:25 PM Subject: [OriginsTalk] Re: Suboptimal design (justice or...
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gluadys
Jan 18, 2013 2:26 pm
... Not true. This whole statement (including the part edited out) is not part of the theory of evolution as it is wholly philosophical and untestable....
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Charles Palm
palmcharles
Jan 18, 2013 2:26 pm
HHMI: http://media.hhmi.org/fittest/Evolving_Switches_Evolving_Bodies.html James A Shapiro: Using this 21st Century scientific perspective, we can articulate...
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osoclasi
Jan 18, 2013 2:26 pm
... For one, how can you argue that intelligent design or even creation science is not science then if there are no clear lines of demarcation? DRL: No matter...
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Truman
seekeththee
Jan 18, 2013 2:26 pm
... Evidence that there is a tree, and evidence for what exactly that tree is and exactly how it looks are two different things. It is kind of like your...
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D R Lindberg
notdoctor
Jan 18, 2013 2:26 pm
... mental convolutions above, which, if taken seriously, would mean that all of science is 'theoretically self-referential (or circular)' and thus...
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gluadys
Jan 18, 2013 2:26 pm
... I am not slipping in anything unstated. I am stating it clearly and upfront. Nature/natural/naturalistic (and other relevant terms) means "not...
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JamesG
jimmygoff2001
Jan 18, 2013 9:37 pm
D R Lindberg: "No one outside the DI movement agrees that Behe's bacterial flagellum claim has not been falsified. If a claim is so vague that observers are...
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Charles Palm
palmcharles
Jan 18, 2013 9:37 pm
James A Shapiro: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-a-shapiro/evolution-debate_b_1425133.html We need to emphasize that science operates strictly within the...
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JamesG
jimmygoff2001
Jan 18, 2013 9:37 pm
Me: "...nothing I've said about the circular reasoning that taints the case Darwinists make for their theory on the basis of 'transitional' forms means that...
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JamesG
jimmygoff2001
Jan 18, 2013 9:37 pm
gluadys: "Nature/natural/naturalistic (and other relevant terms) means 'not artificial' 'not requiring human skill or artifice or intervention to make it...
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D R Lindberg
notdoctor
Jan 18, 2013 9:37 pm
... demarcation? ... and ... no ... way to make that line of demarcation? I did not say that they is no way to make the demarcation. I just said that the line...
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Laurie Appleton
lkappleus
Jan 19, 2013 2:09 am
... From: Charles Palm To: OriginsTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:52 AM Subject: [OriginsTalk] The Imminent Demise of Evolution James A...
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Charles Palm
palmcharles
Jan 19, 2013 2:09 am
D R Lindberg (To Jim in Missouri): You agreed that intermediate fossils can be identified independently of of theory. That eliminates any circularity. Charles...
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gluadys
Jan 19, 2013 7:35 pm
... That is why the theory of evolution is not about the origin of life. ... Then "naturalism" is not part of the theory of evolution and you should stop using...
