Dear Dan YES, That is completely valid, it is the position that this body mind complex (a mechanical gateway to the absolute) finds itself in. The question...
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musty rag
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Mar 1, 2001 3:52 pm
... This makes sense to me, which makes me think that Nisargadatta's method of trying to sense the "inexperiencable One" prior to experience is, perhaps, not...
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Daniel Berkow
berkowd@...
Mar 1, 2001 5:34 pm
Hi Peter, Thank you for your kind response. As we still seem to be waiting for someone with information about unhinged gates, let me inquire: Through what you...
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thomas murphy
tma@...
Mar 1, 2001 5:50 pm
Aside from considerations regarding the notions of 'work' and 'efficiency,' Nisargadatta often asserts that he is everything he surveys, thus at once...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Mar 1, 2001 6:43 pm
... "The illusory is the real. The only thing that makes it illusory, is that it is believed to have an independent reality, in an objectified space." ... ...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Mar 1, 2001 7:15 pm
Might it not be more efficient, and more graspable, to work on experiencing oneself as being everything........ Musty. ... Maharaj: I am everything. I am...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Mar 1, 2001 8:34 pm
The first "I am everything". The first "I am everything" is pretty crappy. In the unregenerate mind. I am not just this grand universe I perceive, I am not...
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Daniel Berkow
berkowd@...
Mar 1, 2001 10:22 pm
Hi Dusty, I would see it as a kind of koan. Even the word "inexperiencable" -- to what does it refer? The word itself is experiencable. So where does it...
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ALAN BYRON
alanbyron@...
Mar 1, 2001 11:55 pm
I really don't know where this is going or what will happen or how I will ead the replies. I am - I pause - what? Read I am That and it was the most immensely...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Mar 2, 2001 7:36 am
Alan: When, I am, stands alone, it is pure consciousness. When, I am, is identified with the content of the mind, aka the content of consciousness, it is the...
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ameyhng@...
Mar 2, 2001 1:01 pm
12 THE PERSON IS NOT REALITY PG31 Q: Kindly tell us how you realized. M: I met my guru when I was 34 and realized by 37. Q: What happened? What was...
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ameyhng@...
Mar 2, 2001 1:03 pm
November 17, 1980 Page 12 Q: Don't we have to discard all knowledge? M: You must have a thorough knowledge of this consciousness, and having known everything...
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slevinson@...
Mar 2, 2001 3:05 pm
I am very interested in the question of the relationship between "Understanding" and "Seeing" as relates to the "State of the Jnani" and as relates to the...
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Daniel Berkow
berkowd@...
Mar 2, 2001 3:12 pm
Thanks for posting these dialogues. Much appreciation for the directness and poetry of expression. ... The dialogue spins on. Yet if the questioner for one...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Mar 2, 2001 6:40 pm
Stephen: Yes, there is yo-yo-ing. As long as one is in the mind. Maybe someone recalls, where some of the appropriate Maharaj wording is. I don't. There is one...
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musty rag
mustdust@...
Mar 2, 2001 6:53 pm
Hi Elizabeth, ... Since the goal is to mess up the "I am" mechanism, one does not necessarily have to go so far. One could, perhaps, merely use the visual...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Mar 2, 2001 7:25 pm
Musty: I take it you are referring to today's Jewels? By Ramesh Balsekar? El ... Subject: A Net of Jewels March 2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ANetofJewels ...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Mar 2, 2001 8:01 pm
Musty: Maharaj was my first and last guru. I wasn't into gurus. But someone sent him to me, and I was desperate. I was stuck, and I needed help. And I...
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Sandeep Chatterjee
sandeepc@...
Mar 2, 2001 11:32 pm
Hi Stephen, Interesting..... My conceptual two bits....... ... From: <slevinson@...> To: <Nisargadatta@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001...
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Xan
xanma@...
Mar 3, 2001 1:00 am
... ~ One person's most efficient method is another one's sludge. The One is not experienceable, but it is recognizable.... though not by 'trying'. Xan...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Mar 3, 2001 5:46 am
First I thought I was the body. Then I experienced that I was not the body, but I was the consciousness. Then I got the experience, that this consciousness is...
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Peter Whale
pgwhale@...
Mar 3, 2001 10:55 am
Hi Dan As you say no path no gate all concepts, the concept of ignorance seems to prevail in this mechanical address. No words ? but here they are with...
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musty rag
mustdust@...
Mar 3, 2001 3:20 pm
Hi Elizabeth, ... Any suggestions how can I wise up quickly? Or are you suggesting I just jump into the test tube and do my best? Musty...
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musty rag
mustdust@...
Mar 3, 2001 3:30 pm
Hi Elizabeth, ... I don't think so. What I meant is this. The "I" mechanism is normally identified with the body. But if I start seeing the "outside"...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Mar 3, 2001 7:38 pm
Musty: The outside evironment I see is, after all, is simply a process within the brain. So it's not so difficult to see on an intellectual basis, at least, ...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Mar 3, 2001 8:00 pm
Musty, I understand what you are saying. But as Maharaj says, this is where the intellect gets annihilated. El...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Mar 3, 2001 9:44 pm
Musty: Any suggestions how can I wise up quickly? El: You will have to go to someone wiser than me for that!...
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Daniel Berkow
berkowd@...
Mar 3, 2001 10:02 pm
Hi Peter, ... Yes, words are cute. They refer always to other words, just as memories refer always to other memories. What is this ever-changing Word, unable...
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musty rag
mustdust@...
Mar 4, 2001 12:36 am
... Thanks for an honest answer. Talk to you tomorrow. Musty...
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ameyhng@...
Mar 4, 2001 3:00 pm
November 18, 1980 Page 13 M: My present outlook is without limitation, total freedom. Ultimately one must go beyond knowledge, but the knowledge must come, and...
