To me the Ultimate Truth is simple and straight forward. If you allow me to use the word 'God' for the Ultimate Truth. God is all ... says it all! Everything...
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Paul
pjcote@...
Sep 1, 2001 12:06 pm
This group was started a while ago, but never was promoted. If you'd like to join, click on the link below. It might be a good way to explore freedom. Its...
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elizabeth_wells2001@...
Sep 1, 2001 6:11 pm
God "in plain English" I am nothing, I have nothing, I can do nothing, yet everything comes out of me. God is all that is good and wonderful and true. ... And...
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Manuel V. Hernandez
manuel1498@...
Sep 2, 2001 3:07 am
A NET of JEWELS
daily meditations for seekers of Truth
RAMESH S. BALSEKAR
http://www.advaita.org
September 2
The sage lives in complete apprehension of...
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hamsayogini@...
Sep 3, 2001 1:49 pm
A persistant aspect of philosophy & religion is the causality of the universe. Does the world have a cause? Is it a blind force or an intelligent principle?...
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Jan Sultan
swork@...
Sep 3, 2001 3:11 pm
A viewpoint from a different perspective. I have not seen the subconscious mind mentioned in any spiritual group or writings. Yet we are our subconscious...
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elizabeth_wells2001@...
Sep 3, 2001 4:11 pm
What mind? In deep sleep, where is that mind of yours, conscious, unconscious, subconscious, cosmic conscious.........or any other conscious? I am nothing, I...
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elizabeth_wells2001@...
Sep 3, 2001 4:39 pm
What (S)self? In deep sleep, where is that (S)self of yours, conscious, unconscious, subconscious, cosmic conscious.........or any other conscious? I am...
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Patrick O'Neill
proneill@...
Sep 4, 2001 5:53 am
... Simple. The dream seems real until you awaken from sleep. Likewise the dream of the world dissolves when you awaken to your reality as the eternal and...
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elizabeth_wells2001@...
Sep 4, 2001 9:48 am
... Quite the reverse, nothing ... Yes. Defining "God as Ultimate Reality". And nothing(-) and something(+) as 2 sides of the same self-cancelling coin. ...
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Caiti
caitionline@...
Sep 4, 2001 1:26 pm
Patrick, what you wrote sounds clear. I wonder what is your personal experience, so far? caiti ... __________________________________________________ Do You...
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Patrick O'Neill
proneill@...
Sep 4, 2001 2:36 pm
... Probably the same as your experience: that of an earnest student who desires to know God. Patrick...
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Jan Sultan
swork@...
Sep 4, 2001 3:50 pm
... The subconscious mind never sleeps. It is very much active during deep sleep monitoring the body, filing and sorting new things learned during the day. It...
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elizabeth_wells2001@...
Sep 4, 2001 5:43 pm
see bottom-- Caiti ... I wonder what is your personal ... that of an earnest student who ... not even the idea of Nothing", aka "Pure Spirit...the Real...
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Vineet Kumar
vineet_kumar0@...
Sep 4, 2001 6:29 pm
you are right Jan when looked from third person perspective ........all this information regarding subconscious, unconscious we gain through either reading or...
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Daniel Berkow
berkowd@...
Sep 4, 2001 7:16 pm
Nothing I am, and therefore nothing I am not ... so beyond "being" or "I" -- beyond God, self, or nothingness ... -- beyond any concept about nothing, beyond...
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Tony O'Clery
aoclery@...
Sep 4, 2001 9:26 pm
... Namaste El, Very easily if it never happened at all......ONS...Tony....
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Tony O'Clery
aoclery@...
Sep 4, 2001 9:31 pm
... Namaste All, God is as real as you are. God is what is referred to as Saguna Brahman, which is ultimatley unreal. God is a concept therefore there is no...
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Tony O'Clery
aoclery@...
Sep 4, 2001 9:36 pm
... Namaste Dan, The nearest description I can give even to our illory presences is. 'Somewhere there is a dream, dreaming us'. Ko San Bushmen of Kalahari...
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Wim Borsboom
wim@...
Sep 4, 2001 11:25 pm
Dear Elizabeth, Patrick, Caiti (from the Nisargadatta group) et al. ... With due respect, (and I'm saying this smilingly) "nothing" is not "minus(-)" of...
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Caiti
caitionline@...
Sep 5, 2001 1:05 am
Yes, Patrick, but what does that mean in your case? caiti ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam...
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Caiti
caitionline@...
Sep 5, 2001 1:10 am
Neat, thanks Elisabeth. caiti:) ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging...
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Caiti
caitionline@...
Sep 5, 2001 1:12 am
Vineet, "In deep sleep we are truly ourselves .........that is why nobody really hates sleeping." Never thought of it as that. True. It seems to me that I ...
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Caiti
caitionline@...
Sep 5, 2001 1:23 am
Wim and others, :) I never found my "purpose" in life... I sort of don't know what I am doing here in this world. So I keep being best I can. I cannot say it...
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Paul
pjcote@...
Sep 5, 2001 2:54 pm
Caiti: I was wondering the same thing. Then someone told me that although he did not know his purpose in life, he was sure God new his purpose in life. He...
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Vineet Kumar
vineet_kumar0@...
Sep 5, 2001 3:04 pm
Caiti, Yes we can't retain the presence.......yet you can't deny that you were absolutely not there in deep sleep.......in deep sleep most of me is absent...
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Daniel Berkow
berkowd@...
Sep 5, 2001 3:34 pm
... "...and the Buddha simply looked at Kasyapa, and, saying nothing, smiled, and handed Kasyapa a flower." -- Shalom, Dan ... The nearest description I can...
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Caiti
caitionline@...
Sep 5, 2001 3:52 pm
Thanks Paul for your reply, yes, it is how it sounds... I guess I need to allow for God to work in any way and try to get out of the way and not interfere...
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Caiti
caitionline@...
Sep 5, 2001 4:01 pm
Vineet, I heard that in the Turiya state(whatever that is, I am western, no religious conditioning during my upbringing) one can actually see oneself sleeping....
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Caiti
caitionline@...
Sep 5, 2001 4:02 pm
Is there a need for the outer guru? Isn't life the guru? When do you need to apply a method? caiti __________________________________________________ Do You...
