Hi Beck, ... I don't know. I gave up both the 'joys' and the 'sorrows' of family life (never had one) and worldly commitments (don't want them) years ago....
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Omkara
coresite@...
Jun 1, 2001 7:30 am
Hi El, ... Indeed. So let's begin 32 years ago, when your Guru threw you out (and a few days ago, when you "bragged" about it). 32 years of 'treading water'...
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Michael Johnson
michael@...
Jun 1, 2001 10:36 am
... Tim: I think it is neglected or not understood because it is too simple. Most people who traverse this path are very intelligent and want to feel that they...
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Beck
beck@...
Jun 1, 2001 2:09 pm
At 12:22 AM 6/1/01 , you wrote: Hi Beck, So clearly I'm in no position to answer that question or to help, life circumstances differ drastically. Maybe after...
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Beck
beck@...
Jun 1, 2001 2:48 pm
Tim, as an addendum to all this, let me say that if I have to give up Aubry and move to LA or anywhere else in order to achieve enlightenment, whatever that...
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mortivan
mortivan@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:03 pm
My, my! Such EGO! "You're" embarrassing yourself Tim. "You" have no clue... -mort ... two ... still 'hanging ... dishwater ... I...
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Daniel Berkow
berkowd@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:13 pm
You are the soundless sound. Have you heard it? Listen. As you hear nothing, that's it. This is where all ends, all begins, where nothing else is, the "primal...
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D. Sirjue
dsirju@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:15 pm
... From: "Omkara" <coresite@...> To: <Nisargadatta@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:35 PM Subject: [Nisargadatta] Random quote from "Nectar...
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D. Sirjue
dsirju@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:22 pm
... Really, is Maharaj serious when he says listening is possible for even the 'ready' aspirant or do we already have all the answers and merely want...
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D. Sirjue
dsirju@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:47 pm
... From: "D. Sirjue" <dsirju@...> To: <Nisargadatta@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:18 AM Subject: [Nisargadatta] Re:Random quote from...
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elizabethwells2001@...
Jun 1, 2001 5:02 pm
Mort: Things are not always what they appear. In this case, Timmy just dug his own grave. It hit its mark. This is just the mouth flapping, after the head...
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thomas murphy
tma@...
Jun 1, 2001 5:11 pm
... Please pardon this intrusion into your dialog. As for an outer guru, I am of the persuasion that whatever appears before one at this moment contains all...
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Paul Cote
pjcote@...
Jun 1, 2001 5:14 pm
Beck: I believe the simplest way, no Guru required, to clear the most blocks to happiness is to go to a 12 step group such as AA. Do the 12 steps. Sincerely, ...
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Beck
beck@...
Jun 1, 2001 6:07 pm
... Paul, with all due respects, I thank you for your response. I did the 12 steps and they did nothing for me. I stopped drinking on my own. To each his own,...
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Beck
beck@...
Jun 1, 2001 6:07 pm
... No problem here, Tomas, if I wanted a private conversation, I sure wouldn't do it here! :-) ... I think I hear you saying, "Everything is as it needs to...
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vijay@...
Jun 1, 2001 7:36 pm
... Pranam Dan Absolutely true! The soundless sound is pure Brahma if you are "ananya" with it (if you are not apart from the sound). If "you" hear the...
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thomas murphy
tma@...
Jun 1, 2001 7:45 pm
Silent Alchemy Whatever appears at this moment satisfies all requirements for illumination. The circumstantial aspect of experience is the guru, whether or not...
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Omkara
coresite@...
Jun 1, 2001 8:43 pm
Soundless sound? Gosh, someone look up the term "Omkara" and see what it means <laugh>. This "spiritual name" that "picked me" some time last year without any...
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Omkara
coresite@...
Jun 1, 2001 8:46 pm
... Yes!!! "We think that there is something hiding our reality and that it must be destroyed before the reality is gained. It is ridiculous. A day will dawn...
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Beck
beck@...
Jun 1, 2001 10:10 pm
The big joke is, I can sit here and know this is true - absolutely know it - and still not see it. It is like some of the optical illusion photographs. Someone...
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Omkara
coresite@...
Jun 1, 2001 10:21 pm
... Partially because "you ARE it" ... it's impossible to see one's own eyeballs. The way to see it is to 'be it' -- as Nisargadatta always pointed out, rest...
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Omkara
coresite@...
Jun 1, 2001 11:03 pm
Hi Michael, Maybe also because it seems "dry and dull" to the mind, to remain with the beingness, to lose attachment to desires and various 'needs' (which are...
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Omkara
coresite@...
Jun 2, 2001 12:52 am
Dear List, It is said, "a picture is worth a thousand words." If that's so, then the actual sight of something must be worth a thousand pictures of it. If...
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Paul Cote
pjcote@...
Jun 2, 2001 12:45 pm
... the ... hey Tim: sorta like... hearing is the link between the hearer and the heard? seeing is the link between the seer and the seen? tasting is the link...
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Paul Cote
pjcote@...
Jun 2, 2001 12:49 pm
singing is the link between the singer and the song.... and singing with love ..... opens the heart...
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Omkara
coresite@...
Jun 2, 2001 2:42 pm
... Yes... but if you can make this "experiential" (even for a moment)... or a "realization" rather than just a "head trip" ... The way I did it was gazing at...
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Daniel Berkow
berkowd@...
Jun 2, 2001 9:32 pm
... Hi Vijay -- Salutations! "Ananya" it is -- And yes - there's no place apart to hear it -- only to be filled by it, as it, through it, in it, and of it... ...
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Daniel Berkow
berkowd@...
Jun 2, 2001 9:35 pm
Well-said, Tomas. This moment as is needs be, can be, no other way. Illumination! Dan...
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John Logan
johnrloganis@...
Jun 3, 2001 3:39 am
Hi, I am a newcomer to the list but have been "lurking" for a while. I just had to jump on this one: Omkara/Tim wrote "Ultimately you can trust only yourself...
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Omkara
coresite@...
Jun 3, 2001 5:37 am
Dear John, Thanks for stating it so beautifully. I found finally that the real teacher is 'consciousness' itself... the sense of life-energy or 'beingness'....
