Tom et all,

 

I will keep my eyes peeled as events shape up for next season. I look forward to seeing some of you at the coordinators meeting. Perhaps we can hash some of this out then.

 

YHS

R.C.Tarbox

Tom Craig <tom-craig@...> wrote:

Guys,

    While I am very sorry I missed the event, I am more than happy to hear that it went well!  1st time events are always dicey, especially something of this nature.  That Rob and Eric pulled it off is an excellent tribute to their hard work and dedication.  Hopefully next year will be even better. 

    Rob, something to think about schedule wise, Recon IV is largely supposed to be taking place in September next year.  No date set, but many of the same folks who came to your event will be heading to that one.

    As Matt mentioned, it is never too early to start thinking about next season.  We had an excellent start at Borderlands, and a great event at Marlboro.  Let's build up some steam and make next season a great one for campaigners.  The NEB schedule will be shaped in the next month or so, but I already know of some good opportunites for us.  A few events to think of, but certainly not the only ones:

    June:  Torrington

    August: Ryegate

    September:  Marlboro Tactical (?), Milis

  I am sure there will be more potential events.  If you know of something or think of something that could be good share it here and post it up!

   Take care,

     Tom

matt burbank <ltdan25th@...> wrote:

I think that's a great Idea of already planning Campaign events for next year JVC would be great. We will definalty support this idea within the NEB .

Your Obedient Servant

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    Another option is to simply join a local company that has insurance
already.  28th Mass, Co. K has it (35.00 to join the unit) or 1st Mass.
Cav or any other sizable unit in the Union Guard.


Todd

Hi all,

    I have a concern probably mostly pertaining to my small group for the upcoming season.  We realized at Borderlands that we might have a problem going to New England events with us falling in with the Liberty Greys.  Our problem is with insurance.  They almost didn't let us participate in the event because we didn't have any insurance. 

       Now my question is, is there a larger group within the New England campaigners that will allow us to join their group so we may have insurance?  I do not want anything to do with any of the Liberty Greys units, due to our treatment by them at Borderlands.  We were actually mocked at by them, accusing of us of showing them up actually looking like soldiers.  I know, Heaven forbid we look like real soldiers.  We were also hassled by the command staff. 

     So if there is any unit that wouldn't mind having two more guys around, let me know.  I'd still like to keep our own identity, I just hate running into these problems which I'm sure the 'stremers will continue to send at us.  It doen't matter if they are US or CS.  I have been wanting to do a Federal impression but have not had the money being in college to start buying Federal gear.  I only do CS right now.  So if any one can help us out or point us in the right direction, please let me know.

 

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"Our problem is with insurance. They almost didn't let us participate in the
event because we didn't have any insurance."

That's odd. My group doesn't have insurance and they allowed us to
participate. We were never even asked about insurance. Was this anly at
B'lands or at other local events.

Stiggs
Caughtoff Guards

"Our problem is with insurance. They almost didn't let us participate in the
event because we didn't have any insurance."

That's odd. My group doesn't have insurance and they allowed us to
participate. We were never even asked about insurance. Was this anly at
B'lands or at other local events.

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> "Our problem is with insurance. They almost didn't let us participate in the
> event because we didn't have any insurance."
>
> That's odd. My group doesn't have insurance and they allowed us to
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Havnt heard anything in awhile and thought I would bump the thread.
Was thinking of spending some time going gray and wanted to get in
contact with someone on get something going.

Havnt heard anything in awhile and thought I would bump the thread.
Was thinking of spending some time going gray and wanted to get in
contact with someone on get something going.

Tom, you forgot to mention one other low. That damn
abolishionist  in our company.

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Tom:

Nicely written. For those of you who didn't make it, you missed a fine event. It
was not an event for the faint-of-heart though. I overheard Matt Caldwell say in
the parking lot after the event was over that he was tired from lack of sleep
and hungry from lack of food - in other words, it was a great event! I concur.

As Tom mentioned, it was at or below freezing both nights. The march was not
overly long but was made more difficult by the extra weight on our backs. The
rations were issued on Friday night and were meager (a small slab of bacon and 8
crackers). They had to last for two days and barely did so. It was a 24/7
environment so we had constant details - water, firewood, guard duty, etc. But
all of that made it fun for us in the hobby who prefer to choose the hard right
instead of the easy wrong.

Tom failed to mention how he managed to sleep on Saturday night with temps in
the high 20's. He got lucky with his spooning partner - me! I can generate some
heat and Tom was the beneficiary thereof.  He can put off some heat too and made
for a better heat source than the skinny 17-year old that I paired up with on
Friday night!

Highs:
- Retracing the movements and battle on original ground
- Over $10,000 raised for preservation
- Lots of New York State jackets sprinkled throughout the federal battalion (we
portrayed the 151st NY) from a bulk buy with Chris Daley
- Lots of period griping but everyone did their duty
- Special orders/fate cards from Kevin O'Bee
- Tom Craig's body temp
- Great pards
- Seeing some fine young reenactors joining the group

Lows:
- The freaking low nighttime temps
- Marching on blacktop for much of the time, in modern neighborhoods (couldn't
be helped but still a downer)
- Lot of talking and general lack of military bearing while in formation (as a
corporal I take some of the blame for this but it was my first time and some of
the offenders were long-time reenactors; I just didn't feel right in admonishing
them but probably should have)
- Lack of basic drill knowledge by some (which is fine as long as those that
need to work on it admit they need help and ask for it or at least work on it on
their own; we won't think any less of you!)

Rich Mountain is a similar-type event scheduled for July 14-16, 2006. Mark it on
your calendars!

Cheers!

Michael




>
> From: Tom Craig <tom-craig@...>
> Date: 2005/11/04 Fri PM 10:26:36 EST
> To: NewEnglandCampaigners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [NewEnglandCampaigners] Payne's Farm AAR
>
> Hey Guys,
>    I figured I'd share my Payne's Farm AAR with you all.  It really was a
great event and a good source of inspiration for campaigner efforts in general.
>
> Payne's Farm AAR -October 28-30th, 2005
> Near Orange, VA
>
>     Payne's Farm was a rare opportunity to reenact history on original ground
in a relatively pristine setting.  The event was hosted by the Stonewall
Brigade, with the Federal details being handled by Kevin O'Bierne of the
Columbia Rifles.
>
> Pre-event
>     Pre-event communication was handled chiefly by the website, but also
through group emails from the Federal CO.  Participants were well educated on
the goals, mission and expectations for the event, and it showed.
>    I traveled down to sunny VA, making a pit stop at G-burg to meet with
friends.  The 7.5 hour drive from Western CT was long but uneventful.  I arrived
on site and got to look at sutlers like Chris Daley etc.  Check in and
inspection was smooth and painless.  We had to wait around a bit for the shuttle
to camp, but that just meant more time to shoot the breeze.
>     I was with the first shuttle into camp.  We set up an ad-hoc guard for the
camp, and being the first and only Cpl in camp I became the Cpl of the Guard
(note: launching into duty early is great since it gets you off the hook for the
rest of the weekend!).
>
> Friday night
>     By the time I was relieved from duty the camp had already taken shape. 
Guys were busily settling in for a long October night (temps would get down into
the very low 30's).  Rations were issued to the compaines around 6PM and we all
set to work frying our bacon etc.
>    The remainder of Friday night was spent making small talk, mostly in first
person, and bitching about how cold it was going to be.  There was one humorous
incident when the guard supernumarary for our company was completely unprepared
for his post and got chewed out by the Sgt Maj.  It lead to us having to do
extra fatigue duty, but he was prepared the rest of the weekend!
>
> Saturday
>     Dawn came non too early as we all spent a fairly sleepless night in the
cold.  There was almost a universal agreement that spooning would be in order
the next night in order to stay warm.  We had a few moments to make breakfast
before packing our knapsacks and breaking camp.  Company and battalion drill
came next prior to our setting out on the march.
>     The 107 man battalion assmbled in full marching order to follow the
footsteps  of the original 151st New York on their way to Payne's Farm.  The
march was a five mile effort that largely followed the exact road that the "boys
of '63" marched.  It was a little more fatiguing than some marches due to the
fact that we were almost all packing overcoats etc.  3/4 of the way through we
stopped for a two hour break that would simulate the time the actual soldiers
spent waiting for their generals to realize that they had gotten lost.
>    It was at this pit stop that we got our "special orders" which we were told
not to open until we got into range of the enemy.  These "special orders" were
our "fate cards".  Kevin O'B had researched an original member of the 151st and
matched them up with us.  The fate that the original soldier suffered in the
battle would be our fate as well...I got lucky and survived the battle without a
scratch and got promoted to Sgt.  Others weren't so lucky, including the 2nd
Sgt, Steve Tyler, who caught one in the head.  During the battle he actually
laid on the field for half an hour convulsing and twitching!
>    Anyway, when we finally reached the field, skirmishers were sent out.  The
best feature of the battle beyond being on the exact ground was that we used
authentic distances.  The skirmishers who went in search of the Johnies went
forward at least a 1/2 mile from their starting point, and came that far back to
the battalion.  When we got into battle we were never close enough to see
individual faces on our CS foes.  It was really a much different experience than
any reenacting battle I have been in!  We also left casualties on the field that
were retrieved by the band.  These guys became casualties for the night and were
separated from their companies until 7 AM the next morning!
>    Saturday night came early and promised to be another very cold one.  In
fact it reportedly got down into the low 20's!  The men of the battalion
feverishly cast around for wood to burn, and most actually were in their
blankets asleep by 8:30- they were THAT tired!
>
> Sunday AM
>    Sunday morning couldn't come early enough for many of us due to the frosty
temps.  Most of us managed to find a pard to share shelter with and were able to
stay reasonably warm.  All the same we were happy to hear revielle!  The
Confederates forgot to set their clocks back so they were up bright and early. 
The result was that our schedule got pushed up, and we broke camp within an hour
of roll call.
>    We were marched out to meet our CS conterparts for a brief but moving
comemeration ceremony.  The names of the casualties in both units portrayed were
read, followed by a rendition of amazing grace by the band.  Following that
Kevin O'B provided a brief but detailed explination of the events that had
occoured in the area that were had just marched across.
>    The morning ceremony over, the event was at an end and all there was to do
was to march back to the parking lot to break up the battalions.
>
> Conclusion:
> High points:
> -Raising $10,000 for preservation
> -marching and fighting on the exact ground
> -serving in a battalion of like minded folks who didn't mind being detailed
for all night guard mount etc in the cold
> -an extremely well organized and planned event
>
> Lows:
> -the event ended pretty early on Sunday AM to allow folks to travel, which
meant the event was relatively short
>
>    If you missed PF you missed a great event.  Hopefully we can incorporate
some of the great parts of the event on our efforts closer to home!
>    Take care,
>      Tom Craig
>
>
>

Tom, you forgot to mention one other low. That damn
abolishionist in our company.

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Tom it sounded like a great event from what I have read here and on the AC forum, did you do infantry? I wish I could have been there just the wrong time of year for me.

 

Frank Lilley

 

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Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 10:27 PM
To: NewEnglandCampaigners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NewEnglandCampaigners] Payne's Farm AAR

 

Hey Guys,

   I figured I'd share my Payne's Farm AAR with you all.  It really was a great event and a good source of inspiration for campaigner efforts in general.

 

Payne's Farm AAR -October 28-30th, 2005

Near Orange, VA

 

    Payne's Farm was a rare opportunity to reenact history on original ground in a relatively pristine setting.  The event was hosted by the Stonewall Brigade, with the Federal details being handled by Kevin O'Bierne of the Columbia Rifles. 

 

Pre-event

    Pre-event communication was handled chiefly by the website, but also through group emails from the Federal CO.  Participants were well educated on the goals, mission and expectations for the event, and it showed.

   I traveled down to sunny VA, making a pit stop at G-burg to meet with friends.  The 7.5 hour drive from Western CT was long but uneventful.  I arrived on site and got to look at sutlers like Chris Daley etc.  Check in and inspection was smooth and painless.  We had to wait around a bit for the shuttle to camp, but that just meant more time to shoot the breeze. 

    I was with the first shuttle into camp.  We set up an ad-hoc guard for the camp, and being the first and only Cpl in camp I became the Cpl of the Guard (note: launching into duty early is great since it gets you off the hook for the rest of the weekend!).

 

Friday night

    By the time I was relieved from duty the camp had already taken shape.  Guys were busily settling in for a long October night (temps would get down into the very low 30's).  Rations were issued to the compaines around 6PM and we all set to work frying our bacon etc. 

   The remainder of Friday night was spent making small talk, mostly in first person, and bitching about how cold it was going to be.  There was one humorous incident when the guard supernumarary for our company was completely unprepared for his post and got chewed out by the Sgt Maj.  It lead to us having to do extra fatigue duty, but he was prepared the rest of the weekend!

 

Saturday

    Dawn came non too early as we all spent a fairly sleepless night in the cold.  There was almost a universal agreement that spooning would be in order the next night in order to stay warm.  We had a few moments to make breakfast before packing our knapsacks and breaking camp.  Company and battalion drill came next prior to our setting out on the march.

    The 107 man battalion assmbled in full marching order to follow the footsteps  of the original 151st New York on their way to Payne's Farm.  The march was a five mile effort that largely followed the exact road that the "boys of '63" marched.  It was a little more fatiguing than some marches due to the fact that we were almost all packing overcoats etc.  3/4 of the way through we stopped for a two hour break that would simulate the time the actual soldiers spent waiting for their generals to realize that they had gotten lost.

   It was at this pit stop that we got our "special orders" which we were told not to open until we got into range of the enemy.  These "special orders" were our "fate cards".  Kevin O'B had researched an original member of the 151st and matched them up with us.  The fate that the original soldier suffered in the battle would be our fate as well...I got lucky and survived the battle without a scratch and got promoted to Sgt.  Others weren't so lucky, including the 2nd Sgt, Steve Tyler, who caught one in the head.  During the battle he actually laid on the field for half an hour convulsing and twitching!

   Anyway, when we finally reached the field, skirmishers were sent out.  The best feature of the battle beyond being on the exact ground was that we used authentic distances.  The skirmishers who went in search of the Johnies went forward at least a 1/2 mile from their starting point, and came that far back to the battalion.  When we got into battle we were never close enough to see individual faces on our CS foes.  It was really a much different experience than any reenacting battle I have been in!  We also left casualties on the field that were retrieved by the band.  These guys became casualties for the night and were separated from their companies until 7 AM the next morning!

   Saturday night came early and promised to be another very cold one.  In fact it reportedly got down into the low 20's!  The men of the battalion feverishly cast around for wood to burn, and most actually were in their blankets asleep by 8:30- they were THAT tired!

 

Sunday AM

   Sunday morning couldn't come early enough for many of us due to the frosty temps.  Most of us managed to find a pard to share shelter with and were able to stay reasonably warm.  All the same we were happy to hear revielle!  The Confederates forgot to set their clocks back so they were up bright and early.  The result was that our schedule got pushed up, and we broke camp within an hour of roll call.

   We were marched out to meet our CS conterparts for a brief but moving comemeration ceremony.  The names of the casualties in both units portrayed were read, followed by a rendition of amazing grace by the band.  Following that Kevin O'B provided a brief but detailed explination of the events that had occoured in the area that were had just marched across.

   The morning ceremony over, the event was at an end and all there was to do was to march back to the parking lot to break up the battalions.

 

Conclusion:

High points:

-Raising $10,000 for preservation

-marching and fighting on the exact ground

-serving in a battalion of like minded folks who didn't mind being detailed for all night guard mount etc in the cold

-an extremely well organized and planned event

 

Lows:

-the event ended pretty early on Sunday AM to allow folks to travel, which meant the event was relatively short

 

   If you missed PF you missed a great event.  Hopefully we can incorporate some of the great parts of the event on our efforts closer to home!

   Take care,

     Tom Craig 

 

I heard he's got a subscription to the northern star.
Eh maybe if you send him out on patrol and he never
comes back you wont get so many emails. Im sure he'll
find some way to contact you, even if its through the
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Abolitionism, what is it? Liberty. What is liberty? Abolitionism. What are they both? Politically, one is the Declaration of Independence; religiously, the other is the Golden Rule of our Savior. I am here in Charleston, South Carolina. She is smitten to the dust. She has been brought down from her pride of place. The chalice was put to her lips, and she has drunk it to the dregs. I have never been her enemy, nor the enemy of the South, and in the desire to save her from this great retribution demanded in the name of the living God that every fetter should be broken, and the oppressed set free.

I have not come here with reference to any flag but that of freedom. If your Union does not symbolize universal emancipation, it brings no Union for me. If your Constitution does not guarantee freedom for all, it is not a Constitution I can ascribe to. If your flag is stained by the blood of a brother held in bondage, I repudiate it in the name of God. I came here to witness the unfurling of a flag under which every human being is to be recognized as entitled to his freedom. Therefore, with a clear conscience, without any compromise of principles, I accepted the invitation of the Government of the United States to be present and witness the ceremonies that have taken place today.

And now let me give the sentiment which has been, and ever will be, the governing passion of my soul:

"Liberty for each, for all, and forever!"

So there.

tom,

 

 the dam albino Negro will surely have a accident while on patrol or be captured at least the supernumary is dense and rather get shot than be captured. also he is rather fast when the occasion calls for it. anyway I want that boxing match at W1864.  I'll will teach that damned abolitionist a lesson that we will soon not forget.  

 
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Subject: Re: [NewEnglandCampaigners] Payne's Farm AAR

Caleb,

   You're right, that damned abolitionist and his darky friends...they cost us a lot of good men!  Just wait, when I make 1st Sgt I will send him on a patrol that he'll never return from...and I'll send the supernumerary with him!

   Take care,

     Tom

caleb horton <caleb5k@yahoo.com> wrote:

Tom, you forgot to mention one other low. That damn
abolishionist in our company.

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All,

 

 we have to stop! this boob is having hissy fit over this, even thought he may have humored it. he is taking this personal. anyway he is a boo bird and no fun.  

 
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Sent: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 06:45:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewEnglandCampaigners] Abolitionism Equals Liberty

Tom and other Agents of Lucifer:

 

If that abolitionist is me that you are talking about then I welcome the bout. I can give as good as I can take in a donneybrook. If it's someone else, well, I'll be there to back up my fellow Christian against Satan's Messengers and no quarter will be given. Any man of God would know that in His Divine Providence, all men - Negro or otherwise - are created in His likeness.  Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice's sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:10.

 

I give you a short passage from a speech from William Garrison given in Charleston, SC, in April 14, 1865 (the day Lincoln was shot):

 

Abolitionism, what is it? Liberty. What is liberty? Abolitionism. What are they both? Politically, one is the Declaration of Independence; religiously, the other is the Golden Rule of our Savior. I am here in Charleston, South Carolina. She is smitten to the dust. She has been brought down from her pride of place. The chalice was put to her lips, and she has drunk it to the dregs. I have never been her enemy, nor the enemy of the South, and in the desire to save her from this great retribution demanded in the name of the living God that every fetter should be broken, and the oppressed set free.

 

I have not come here with reference to any flag but that of freedom. If your Union does not symbolize universal emancipation, it brings no Union for me. If your Constitution does not guarantee freedom for all, it is not a Constitution I can ascribe to. If your flag is stained by the blood of a brother held in bondage, I repudiate it in the name of God. I came here to witness the unfurling of a flag under which every human being is to be recognized as entitled to his freedom. Therefore, with a clear conscience, without any compromise of principles, I accepted the invitation of the Government of the United States to be present and witness the ceremonies that have taken place today.

 

And now let me give the sentiment which has been, and ever will be, the governing passion of my soul:

"Liberty for each, for all, and forever!"

So there.

 

Mike

ttj1863@... wrote:

tom,

 

 the dam albino Negro will surely have a accident while on patrol or be captured at least the supernumary is dense and rather get shot than be captured. also he is rather fast when the occasion calls for it. anyway I want that boxing match at W1864.  I'll will teach that damned abolitionist a lesson that we will soon not forget.  

 
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To: NewEnglandCampaigners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:11:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [NewEnglandCampaigners] Payne's Farm AAR

Caleb,

   You're right, that damned abolitionist and his darky friends...they cost us a lot of good men!  Just wait, when I make 1st Sgt I will send him on a patrol that he'll never return from...and I'll send the supernumerary with him!

   Take care,

     Tom

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Tom, you forgot to mention one other low. That damn
abolishionist in our company.

signed the "70's" re enactor




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Tom,

 

Are you calling me a boob? Please explain yourself.

 

Michael Jolin

ttj1863@... wrote:

All,

 

 we have to stop! this boob is having hissy fit over this, even thought he may have humored it. he is taking this personal. anyway he is a boo bird and no fun.  

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Jolin <yankri@yahoo.com>
To: NewEnglandCampaigners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 06:45:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewEnglandCampaigners] Abolitionism Equals Liberty

Tom and other Agents of Lucifer:

 

If that abolitionist is me that you are talking about then I welcome the bout. I can give as good as I can take in a donneybrook. If it's someone else, well, I'll be there to back up my fellow Christian against Satan's Messengers and no quarter will be given. Any man of God would know that in His Divine Providence, all men - Negro or otherwise - are created in His likeness.  Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice's sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:10.

 

I give you a short passage from a speech from William Garrison given in Charleston, SC, in April 14, 1865 (the day Lincoln was shot):

 

Abolitionism, what is it? Liberty. What is liberty? Abolitionism. What are they both? Politically, one is the Declaration of Independence; religiously, the other is the Golden Rule of our Savior. I am here in Charleston, South Carolina. She is smitten to the dust. She has been brought down from her pride of place. The chalice was put to her lips, and she has drunk it to the dregs. I have never been her enemy, nor the enemy of the South, and in the desire to save her from this great retribution demanded in the name of the living God that every fetter should be broken, and the oppressed set free.

 

I have not come here with reference to any flag but that of freedom. If your Union does not symbolize universal emancipation, it brings no Union for me. If your Constitution does not guarantee freedom for all, it is not a Constitution I can ascribe to. If your flag is stained by the blood of a brother held in bondage, I repudiate it in the name of God. I came here to witness the unfurling of a flag under which every human being is to be recognized as entitled to his freedom. Therefore, with a clear conscience, without any compromise of principles, I accepted the invitation of the Government of the United States to be present and witness the ceremonies that have taken place today.

 

And now let me give the sentiment which has been, and ever will be, the governing passion of my soul:

"Liberty for each, for all, and forever!"

So there.

 

Mike

ttj1863@... wrote:

tom,

 

 the dam albino Negro will surely have a accident while on patrol or be captured at least the supernumary is dense and rather get shot than be captured. also he is rather fast when the occasion calls for it. anyway I want that boxing match at W1864.  I'll will teach that damned abolitionist a lesson that we will soon not forget.  

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Craig <tom-craig@sbcglobal.net>
To: NewEnglandCampaigners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:11:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [NewEnglandCampaigners] Payne's Farm AAR

Caleb,

   You're right, that damned abolitionist and his darky friends...they cost us a lot of good men!  Just wait, when I make 1st Sgt I will send him on a patrol that he'll never return from...and I'll send the supernumerary with him!

   Take care,

     Tom

caleb horton <caleb5k@yahoo.com> wrote:

Tom, you forgot to mention one other low. That damn
abolishionist in our company.

signed the "70's" re enactor




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Guys,

   I think there is a little miscommunication going on here.  The original crack about the "abolitionist" was directed at Rob Grandchamp.  We had some goofy first person at PF about him being a 2nd rate supporter of abolition.

    I believe that Tom R. is confusing Mike's posting with Rob's, and Mike thought that he was the subject of the abolitionist joke.

   Does that make sense....can't we all just get along?

   Take care,

     Tom

Michael Jolin <yankri@...> wrote:

Tom,

 

Are you calling me a boob? Please explain yourself.

 

Michael Jolin

ttj1863@... wrote:

All,

 

 we have to stop! this boob is having hissy fit over this, even thought he may have humored it. he is taking this personal. anyway he is a boo bird and no fun.  

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Jolin <yankri@yahoo.com>
To: NewEnglandCampaigners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 06:45:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewEnglandCampaigners] Abolitionism Equals Liberty

Tom and other Agents of Lucifer:

 

If that abolitionist is me that you are talking about then I welcome the bout. I can give as good as I can take in a donneybrook. If it's someone else, well, I'll be there to back up my fellow Christian against Satan's Messengers and no quarter will be given. Any man of God would know that in His Divine Providence, all men - Negro or otherwise - are created in His likeness.  Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice's sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:10.

 

I give you a short passage from a speech from William Garrison given in Charleston, SC, in April 14, 1865 (the day Lincoln was shot):

 

Abolitionism, what is it? Liberty. What is liberty? Abolitionism. What are they both? Politically, one is the Declaration of Independence; religiously, the other is the Golden Rule of our Savior. I am here in Charleston, South Carolina. She is smitten to the dust. She has been brought down from her pride of place. The chalice was put to her lips, and she has drunk it to the dregs. I have never been her enemy, nor the enemy of the South, and in the desire to save her from this great retribution demanded in the name of the living God that every fetter should be broken, and the oppressed set free.

 

I have not come here with reference to any flag but that of freedom. If your Union does not symbolize universal emancipation, it brings no Union for me. If your Constitution does not guarantee freedom for all, it is not a Constitution I can ascribe to. If your flag is stained by the blood of a brother held in bondage, I repudiate it in the name of God. I came here to witness the unfurling of a flag under which every human being is to be recognized as entitled to his freedom. Therefore, with a clear conscience, without any compromise of principles, I accepted the invitation of the Government of the United States to be present and witness the ceremonies that have taken place today.

 

And now let me give the sentiment which has been, and ever will be, the governing passion of my soul:

"Liberty for each, for all, and forever!"

So there.

 

Mike

ttj1863@... wrote:

tom,

 

 the dam albino Negro will surely have a accident while on patrol or be captured at least the supernumary is dense and rather get shot than be captured. also he is rather fast when the occasion calls for it. anyway I want that boxing match at W1864.  I'll will teach that damned abolitionist a lesson that we will soon not forget.  

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Craig <tom-craig@sbcglobal.net>
To: NewEnglandCampaigners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:11:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [NewEnglandCampaigners] Payne's Farm AAR

Caleb,

   You're right, that damned abolitionist and his darky friends...they cost us a lot of good men!  Just wait, when I make 1st Sgt I will send him on a patrol that he'll never return from...and I'll send the supernumerary with him!

   Take care,

     Tom

caleb horton <caleb5k@yahoo.com> wrote:

Tom, you forgot to mention one other low. That damn
abolishionist in our company.

signed the "70's" re enactor




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Im sorry, it was probably my fault. I just brought up
our little abolitionist first person argument we had
at paynes between me tom craig and bob. Thus the
reference to the northern star, and the fact that Mr.
Grandchamp so valiently defended his cause to defend
the negro in combat. Even if he did say it was was all
worth it to see our first seargent die.... Take care
guys.

caleb





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Im sorry, it was probably my fault. I just brought up
our little abolitionist first person argument we had
at paynes between me tom craig and bob. Thus the
reference to the northern star, and the fact that Mr.
Grandchamp so valiently defended his cause to defend
the negro in combat. Even if he did say it was was all
worth it to see our first seargent die.... Take care
guys.

caleb





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