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#32 From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2001 6:54 am
Subject: Re: UPDATE - Committee to Remove the Pacifica Board
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the earth is our mother.... preserve, protect and defend her......

Carol Spooner wrote:

> "This is something that is precious.
> This is something that is ours.
> This is something that we paid for.
> This is something that we believe in.
> And this is something that we intend to keep."
> -Alice Walker
> (from the film "KPFA On the Air")
>
> Dear Friends,
> When I think of all the wonderful, principled and strong people I have met
> over the past two years - I know that we have the heart for this fight. Now
> we must raise the money in earnest. You have sustained us thus far. More
> than 1200 of you have given us your financial support since July 1999 when
> we began this legal journey - through the long petition process to the
> California Attorney General, through the removal to federal court and return
> to state court, and through our opening motions for preliminary
> injunctions - and we are so deeply grateful.
>
> Now we are entering a very intensive legal stage. We are gathering,
> reviewing and cataloguing numerous documents, and we will be bringing a
> major motion for partial summary judgment this summer that could result in
> court-ordered removal of a majority of the Pacifica Board.
>
> We must raise $100,000 in the next three months in order to play a better
> game of hard ball than they can. Your donations - large and small - are what
> will make this possible. We need ten $10,000 donors, or one hundred $1,000
> donors, or two hundred $500 donors, or one thousand $100 donors, or two
> thousand $50 donors, or four thousand $25 donors, or ten thousand $10
> donors - or some combination - please do what you can.
>
> If you can afford to give $500 or more, please take advantage of the
> tax-deductible status of our fiscal sponsor, Marin Health Fund, and send
> your check directly to them.  The Marin Health Fund can also receive gifts
> of stock. If you cannot afford a gift that large (in order to save their
> administration costs) we ask that you send your check to the Committee to
> Remove the Pacifica Board at the address below. Gifts to the Committee are
> NOT tax deductible, but your support of the cause of free speech radio is
> invaluable. Please consider making a monthly gift of whatever you can
> afford. Now is the time when we must hit them very hard. We cannot do this
> without you.
>
> I believe we all know what is truly at stake here - the survival of the only
> alternative radio network in the country. We need it now more than ever.
>
> Thank you,
> Carol Spooner
> Committee to Remove the Pacifica Board
> (Sponsors of "the listeners' lawsuit")
> Web Page:  http://home.pon.net/wildrose/remove.htm
> ###
>
> Contributions to our legal fund in ANY amount can be made payable to:
> Committee to Remove the Pacifica Board
> 1136 Wild Rose Drive
> Santa Rosa, CA 95401.
>
> Your gift to the Committee is NOT tax deductible, but your support of the
> cause of free speech radio is invaluable. Question, details? Call or email
> Carol Spooner, (707) 526-2867, wildrose@... Thank you!
>
> You can make TAX DEDUCTIBLE gifts of $500 or more
> to support our lawsuit payable to our fiscal sponsor:
>
> Marin Health Fund/Public Media Initiative
> P.O. Box 5402
> Mill Valley, CA 94942.
>
> You will receive tax deduction receipt from them. Also, the Public Media
> Initiative  has set up a special account to receive gifts of stock in
> support of our lawsuit. For details email Linda Remy at mhf1982@...
> Thank you!
>
> ####
> This bulletin comes from the Committee to Remove the Pacifica Board
> Web Page:  http://home.pon.net/wildrose/remove.htm
>
> to subscribe/unsubscribe email wildrose@...

#31 From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2001 12:37 am
Subject: Re: bridge the digital divide
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the earth of our mother,  preserve, protect, and defend her.... and the web of
live
from: brave women....

Darby Hickey wrote:

> Hi All
> I want to let you know about the exciting project that the global
> IMC print team has undertaken: production of a weekly PDF file
> for downloading and distribution.
> The idea behind this international collaboration is that by
> putting this up on the web we can get people all over the world
> to print out this weekly document and pass it around: kind of
> a new type of printing press.
> Not only are these bulletins produced by people from around
> the world, full of content from around the world, but they are
> translated in the many languages of the world. We have teams
> of translators working hard on each issue to get it into a variety
> of different languages, so that as many people as possible can
> access this information.
> To me, personally, it is a way to bridge the oft-mentioned (and
> rightly so) ‘digital divide’ which allows only some folks access
> to the information that Indymedia has to offer. Those of us
> with the resources to get these PDFs and print them out can
> do a great community service of distributing them in our local
> communities.
> Check it out at print.indymedia.org where our latest issue,
> number three, is up.
> If you have any questions or comments, feel free to send them
> to imc-print@...
> Rock it!
> darby
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> FREE global voice/fax/e-mail in your mailbox at http://www.planetarabia.com

#30 From: "gilbert lujan" <magu4u@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 2:19 pm
Subject: (No subject)
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Guillermo
What does this mean?
I thought i was already connected.
Is this new ' link ' something that is diffrent than the E-mail MM page?.
Please help me appreciate the potential of these machines.
People are asking me about you and how you are doing and the little birds
tell me of some of your whereabouts from time to time.
But you know about rumors and chismes if you trust them too much your
perceptions will undoubtedly be askew.
Anyhow saying that I understand you and Rafas put on a good one at Beto's.
Glad that you and Rafas are being friends again.
Magu
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#29 From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 10:41 pm
Subject: Re: Action Alert: Letter TODAY: urge legislators to backUFW
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JOCELYN SHERMAN wrote:

> News from the Farm Worker Movement(www.ufw.org):
>
> ACTION ALERT:
>
> Honor Cesar Chavez by continuing his work:
> e-mail state lawmakers TODAY and urge them to back UFW
> -sponsored bills curbing farm labor contractor abuses
>
> Just go to: http://www.ufw.org/ufw/galloact.htm
> to send your online letter to key legislators
>
> Background:
> A three-bill legislative reform package to curtail some of the worst
> farm worker exploitation Cesar Chavez fought to end is being considered
> at the California state Capitol in Sacramento.
>
> Assembly Bill (AB) 423, by Assembly Speaker Robert M. Hertzberg, would
> provide for tough penalties-including jail sentences-for farm labor
> contractors convicted of cheating farm workers out of their pay. Last
> summer an identical measure was the first UFW-sponsored bill ever
> approved by the Legislature. It was vetoed by Gov. Gray Davis.
>
> This year, Speaker Hertzberg arranged for the legislation to be numbered
> AB 423 to commemorate the date of Cesar Chavez's death on April 23,
> 1993.
>
> A second bill by state Senate President Pro Tem John L. Burton, Senate
> Bill (SB) 1125, would make it easier for abused farm workers to recover
> financial losses when they are defrauded by labor contractors. The third
> bill in the UFW package, AB 638, by Assemblymember Darrell Steinberg,
> would require written contracts when growers hire farm labor
> contractors.
>
> "We're grateful that so many communities are honoring Cesar Chavez on
> monuments, streets, schools and libraries," states UFW President Arturo
> Rodriguez. "But we also honor Cesar by continuing his life's work.
> People can honor Cesar by urging state legislators to pass Speaker
> Hertzburg's AB 423, Senator Burton's SB 1125 and Assemblymember
> Steinberg's AB 638."
>
> Help farm workers today!
> Just go to: http://www.ufw.org/ufw/galloact.htm
> to send your online letter to key legislators
>
> For more information on the Farm Worker Movement visit our web site at
http://www.ufw.org and/or subscribe to the Farm Worker Movement list serve by
sending an e-mail to UFW-subscribe@....
> ==^================================================================

#28 From: "Roberta H. Martinez" <martinez@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AztlanNet: EARTH|HEALTH|LABOR] Re: Killing for God and for Gold
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thanks this is wonderful  I will pass this on to friends who have an interest in
History.

Dorinda Moreno wrote:

> Joaquin wrote:
> Article from The Chronicle of Higher Education
>
> > (http://chronicle.com)
> >
> > http://chronicle.com/weekly/v47/i34/34b01401.htm
> >
> >    From the issue dated May 4, 2001
> >
> >    Killing for God and for Gold
> >
> >    By DIANA de ARMAS WILSON
> >
> >     "It's given to few people in history single-handedly to
> >    destroy a civilization." With that caustic remark, Michael
> >    Wood sums up the achievement of Hernan Cortes and hints at the
> >    carnage documented in Conquistadors, a new PBS television
> >    series. Written and presented by Wood, creator of more than 60
> >    documentaries, the series chronicles the exploits of four key
> >    figures in the American conquista: Cortes, Francisco Pizarro,
> >    Francisco de Orellana, and Alvar Nunez Cabeza de Vaca.
> >
> >    With compelling material, an engaging narrator, lavish
> >    photography, and haunting musical scores, Conquistadors may be
> >    Wood's finest documentary. The series, however, seems
> >    unfinished. Although it rightly celebrates, at the close of
> >    its final episode, the existence of an "alternative" Spain
> >    struggling for justice, it needs a fifth segment to document
> >    how, one by one, other European nations would respond to the
> >    Spanish conquest of the Americas. Sir Walter Raleigh's lament
> >    that the king of Spain, Charles V, had taken "the maidenhead
> >    of Peru" would be echoed by Europeans down the centuries.
> >
> >    The first episode of Conquistadors begins in Extremadura,
> >    Spain, home to a cluster of 16th-century figures who left for
> >    the New World almost barefoot but returned with their horses
> >    shod in silver. The last episode ends in Spain, in the royal
> >    capital of Valladolid, site of the Great Debate of 1550-51.
> >
> >    Viewers will wish to learn more about this unresolved debate,
> >    between a Dominican friar, Bartolome de Las Casas, and a
> >    celebrated jurist, Juan Gines de Sepulveda, on issues of race
> >    and human rights. Those issues had evidently caught the
> >    conscience of the king, Charles V, who halted the machinery of
> >    trans-Atlantic conquests while Las Casas, the great defender
> >    of  the Indians, challenged Sepulveda, the renowned translator
> >    of Aristotle and interpreter of his doctrine of natural
> >    slavery. If slaves were born and not made, as Aristotle had
> >    suggested, then the landholding elite in the New World could
> >    argue that its claims on the natives rested not on the rights
> >    of the conquistadors, but on the nature of the conquered. And
> >    if the conquered were not quite human -- or, in Sepulveda's
> >    learned Latin, inculti and therefore inhumani -- could they
> >    have human rights? Las Casas' response to that question haunts
> >    the entire four-hour series: "All the peoples of the world are
> >    human."
> >
> >    Cortes seems to have believed so, at least on first
> >    impression. "What rational beings live here," he wrote to
> >    Charles V in April 1519. Although this self-made man from
> >    Extremadura remains an enigma, Wood tells us worlds about
> >    Cortes with a few well-chosen phrases: He was a "great
> >    womanizer and a gambler," a "poor boy" who dressed as if "born
> >    in brocade." Whereas Don Quixote admired "the very courteous
> >    Cortes" for having scuttled his ships at sea because he feared
> >    a rebellion among his men, Wood admires him for rebuilding
> >    them on dry land. Dragging a prefabricated fleet of 13
> >    brigantines over the passes of Popocatepetl for a final attack
> >    on Tenochtitlan may be the stuff of epic, but Wood never lets
> >    us forget that Cortes was a destroyer -- that he had to ruin
> >    his dream in order to achieve it.
> >
> >    Following Cortes's path from the beaches of Yucatan to the
> >    fabled city of Tenochtitlan, Wood travels sometimes on foot
> >    and sometimes by car, bus, or train. He carries with him
> >    copies of Cortes's letters as well as two versions of the
> >    conquest of Mexico: a soldierly Spanish chronicle written in
> >    old age by a participant, Bernal Diaz del Castillo, and an
> >    illustrated Aztec version recorded "from the best
> >    eyewitnesses" by a Spanish friar, Bernardino de Sahagun. In
> >    the series, Cortes's route is traced by maps and illustrated
> >    by old film clips from Captain From Castile, a 1947 movie that
> >    portrays some hokey encounters between Spaniards and Aztecs,
> >    and by contemporary murals by a Tlaxcalan artist. We follow
> >    some 300 Spaniards, their indigenous Cuban servants, horses,
> >    dogs, and cannons -- "sticks that spurt fire," the Aztecs
> >    would call them -- to the frontiers of the Tabasco River,
> >    where Cortes first encounters his interpreter, the bilingual
> >    woman who will "lead him to his destiny."
> >
> >    I would have welcomed more of the history, admittedly murky,
> >    of Cortes's interpreter, the slave Malintzin -- hispanicized
> >    as Dona Marina and stigmatized as La Malinche, the traitor.
> >    Wood depicts her, through songs and interviews, as having
> >    betrayed the Mexican nation by collaborating with the
> >    conquistadors. Chicana feminists, on the other hand, regard
> >    her affirmatively, no longer as a traitor and whore, but as a
> >    cultural bridge.
> >
> >    We know that she was one of 20 female slaves presented to
> >    Cortes in 1519 by a delegation of Tabascans. Although she was
> >    given to the Spaniards "to make tortillas," as the Spanish
> >    chronicles decorously put it, her knowledge of both Mayan and
> >    Nahuatl was invaluable for Cortes as he marched toward his
> >    encounters with Motecuhzoma, often called Montezuma in English
> >    works. She became his interpreter, his mistress, and -- the
> >    PBS documentary fails to mention this -- the mother of his son
> >    Martin Cortes. Later, Cortes would dump her off on one of his
> >    soldiers, Alonso Hernandez de Puertocarrero, and eventually
> >    marry her off to yet another, Juan de Jaramillo. At least one
> >    linguist in Nahuatl studies considers La Malinche to have been
> >    a survivor of "chronic sexual assault."
> >
> >    Accompanied by his interpreter, Cortes continued his journey
> >    to the city of his dreams. Bernal Diaz famously chronicled the
> >    moment when the Spanish army came down through the clouds and
> >    saw Tenochtitlan, the Aztec capital, built on a huge lake
> >    approached by three causeways: "It seemed like an enchanted
> >    vision from the book of Amadis." Arriving at Mexico City
> >    almost five centuries later, Wood walks where Cortes walked,
> >    dodging traffic and pointing out local Aztec place names
> >    before entering what used to be Montezuma's palace, in the
> >    commercial heart of the modern city. Aztec witnesses have left
> >    a vivid description of their response to that November day in
> >    1519 when two worlds met: It was "as if we all ate stupefying
> >    mushrooms."
> >
> >    Wood argues that the Aztec version of the story -- the "vision
> >    of the vanquished" -- is "as powerful and moving" as the fall
> >    of Homer's Troy. "The other side also has a voice," he justly
> >    reminds viewers, and it is the native peoples of the Americas
> >    who are the heroes of the series. We hear some vivid Aztec
> >    lamentations, including Montezuma's response to the Spanish
> >    invasion of the neighboring state of Cholula: "[M]y heart
> >    burns as if it's been washed in chilis."
> >
> >    Having followed in the footsteps of Cortes for the first
> >    episode, Wood tracks the three other conquistadors through
> >    markedly different terrain to their destinies. Pizarro,
> >    Orellana, and Cabeza de Vaca all began their journeys in quest
> >    of gold only to meet, respectively, with assassins, Amazons,
> >    and hunger. Francisco Pizarro would be assassinated by rebel
> >    Peruvians during a period of civil strife in 1541. For almost
> >    a decade before his death, however, Pizarro, whom his own men
> >    called "a butcher" and "a savage," had been a cruel and
> >    callous leader, given to torturing and butchering rebellious
> >    Indians, including women and children.
> >
> >    In the second episode, we see Pizarro re-entering Peru in 1532
> >    -- he drew his famous line in the sand there five years
> >    earlier -- with four of his brothers, 162 soldiers, 62 horses,
> >    and a secretary who would relate their march up the cold punas
> >    of the Andes toward the fertile valley of Cajamarca. Waiting
> >    for him 20 leagues from Cajamarca was Atahualpa, the
> >    30-year-old Inca ruler of a huge empire, informed by his royal
> >    runners of every step of the Spanish advance.
> >
> >    When Atahualpa threw Father Valverde's Bible on the ground,
> >    the Spaniards had their pretext for war. They killed some
> >    6,000 natives in the square of Cajamarca and carried Atahualpa
> >    off in chains. He offered to ransom himself by filling an
> >    enormous room with gold. The Spaniards took the gold -- some
> >    seven tons of it -- but killed him anyway. "They killed him
> >    like a llama" -- a native movingly sings that refrain in
> >    Quechua, the language still spoken across the Andes. Inca
> >    versions of the story are depicted in Guaman Poma de Ayala's
> >    Nueva Coronica y Buen Gobierno, a 1,200-page letter to the
> >    king of Spain written around 1615, discovered in 1908, and
> >    finally published in 1936. Wood wears white gloves as he
> >    consults this rare manuscript in a library. Oddly
> >    unacknowledged in this episode, however, is the great Peruvian
> >    historian Garcilaso de la Vega, known as "El Inca," the son of
> >    a Spanish soldier and an Inca princess, who so memorably
> >    described Atahualpa's end in Historia General del Peru,
> >    published in 1617: "They baptized him, and they garroted him."
> >
> >    After that event -- which the conquistador Pedro Cieza de Leon
> >    called "the most despicable thing we ever did in this empire
> >    of the Indies" -- the segment relates how the Pizarro brothers
> >    ("as close-knit as a Mafia clan," notes Wood) march on to
> >    Cuzco. There they appoint a puppet king, and -- through rape,
> >    pillage, and savage reprisals -- manage to turn the Inca world
> >    upside down. The camerawork in this episode captures some
> >    astounding vistas of the Incas' sacred peaks, rope bridges,
> >    and waterfalls, as well as the ruins of Vilcabamba, the "Lost
> >    City of the Incas," and Machu Picchu. Wood closes this segment
> >    with a glimpse of an annual festival high in the Andes,
> >    showing that natives today have not forgotten the gods of
> >    their Inca ancestors.
> >
> >    The third conquistador in the series, Francisco de Orellana,
> >    was a veteran of the Inca wars before he traveled, almost
> >    inadvertently, some 2,500 miles down to the mouth of the great
> >    river to be called the Amazon. Intending to bring back help to
> >    Gonzalo Pizarro's expedition -- reduced to near-starvation in
> >    the jungle after a long and futile search for El Dorado --
> >    Orellana and his 60-odd men were instead carried downstream
> >    into the interior of Amazonia. It was the first such journey
> >    by Europeans, who were at times reduced to "chewing their
> >    boots to stay alive." One of Pizarro's men, the Dominican
> >    friar Gaspar de Carvajal, kept a diary of the expedition,
> >    which Wood periodically consults. Wood's account of the myth
> >    of female warriors, however -- spliced with shots of
> >    contemporary Brazilian women laughing about dominant women --
> >    overlooks the friar's fanciful description of the Amazons:
> >    "These women are very white and tall, with long hair braided
> >    and wrapped around their heads, and they're very muscular and
> >    walk about stark naked, only their shameful parts covered,
> >    with bows and arrows in hand, each one as warlike as 10
> >    Indians."
> >
> >    Aided by maps and wide-angle views of the Amazon, the episode
> >    captures some of the many riverine cultures that the Spaniards
> >    encountered before emerging at the Caribbean in 1542. The
> >    following year, the Spanish historian Gonzalo Fernandez de
> >    Oviedo would write a 24-page letter to Cardinal Pietro Bembo,
> >    in Italy, about the "Rio de las Amazonas," giving the river
> >    its present-day name.
> >
> >    The episode mentions Gonzalo Pizarro's unsuccessful attempts
> >    to have Orellana, his cousin, tried for treason in Spain. It
> >    might have added that, upon Orellana's return, Charles V --
> >    increasingly uneasy about the religious implications of
> >    Spain's New World conquests -- gave him a contract, drafted in
> >    the spirit of the visionary New Laws. Those laws -- which
> >    Charles V implemented in 1542 but was forced to revoke in 1545
> >    -- prohibited the feudal institution of the encomienda system
> >    that doled out natives to Spanish landowners. Orellana's
> >    contract specified that "no harm be done to the Indians," who
> >    were "human beings and subjects." While concluding that
> >    Orellana never quite saw the natives as "fully human, like
> >    himself," Wood also ponders this conquistador's need to return
> >    to their Amazonian world, where he would die.
> >
> >    The last episode addresses the failed conquest of Cabeza de
> >    Vaca and his arduous journey into the interior of America --
> >    specifically, the present-day southern United States and
> >    northern Mexico. The PBS documentary both depopulates and
> >    overidealizes the journey. One of four castaways who survived
> >    a catastrophic 1527 expedition to conquer La Florida, Cabeza
> >    de Vaca lived to write a harrowing account of some nine years
> >    of wandering, "lost and naked," across a vast and hostile
> >    territory, from what is now Tampa to Culiacan, in northwestern
> >    Mexico. His graphic image of himself and his companions in the
> >    wilderness shedding their skins "twice a year, like snakes" is
> >    fittingly invoked here. Wood spends too much time, however,
> >    mustering scientific evidence to argue for the southern route
> >    of the Spaniards' journey, as opposed to the more northerly
> >    routes proposed by earlier scholars. The avowed intention of
> >    Cabeza de Vaca's Relacion, as stated in his 1542 prologue to
> >    Charles V, was to help future conquistadors understand "the
> >    diverse customs of many and very barbarous nations"
> >    encountered on his journey. The book's detailed accounts of
> >    Indian customs -- concerning pregnancy, polygamy, divorce,
> >    mourning, female infanticide, and warfare -- are trumped here
> >    by empty speculations about Cabeza de Vaca's sex life in the
> >    wilderness. Why no mention of the bearded and transgendered
> >    Mala Cosa ("Bad Thing"), a small, demonic figure who slashes
> >    stomachs, pulls out entrails, and dislocates elbows; or the
> >    male amarionados who marry each other; or the Fig People, who
> >    vomit their "black tea" if a menstruating woman approaches? A
> >    few clips from the Mexican director Nicolas Echevarria's 1993
> >    film Cabeza de Vaca illustrate the episode, which keeps
> >    returning to one overarching theme: how this conquistador
> >    managed to learn -- through an odyssey of hardship, hunger,
> >    and enslavement -- "that the Indians were human beings."
> >
> >    As a British reporter of historical Spanish events at a time
> >    when Spanish-speaking peoples are divided -- by the Atlantic,
> >    by conflicts among different groups of Latinos in the United
> >    States, by infighting in language departments about Latin
> >    American versus Spanish peninsular perspectives and
> >    appointments -- the intrepid Michael Wood has entered a
> >    terrain where many contemporary academics fear to tread. His
> >    treatment of the natives is politically faultless. I kept
> >    waiting for him, however, to issue a disclaimer against the
> >    "Black Legend," the propaganda spread by other Europeans about
> >    the so-called "innate cruelty" and "unique rapacity" of the
> >    conquistadors. As Sir Walter Raleigh himself allowed during
> >    his failed quest for El Dorado, both the Spanish and English
> >    came to the Indies "for one errant" -- the search for "Indian
> >    gold."
> >
> >    In the third segment, on El Dorado, in which Wood laments the
> >    "holocaust" perpetrated by outsiders since Orellana's arrival,
> >    he might have gestured to Raleigh as one of them. The project
> >    of evangelization, too, was not confined to the Spanish in
> >    early America. In its more broadly Calvinist concerns for
> >    "infidels and salvages," the 1609 charter of the Virginia
> >    Company listed among its objectives the "propagating of
> >    Christian religion to such people, as yet live in darkness and
> >    miserable ignorance of the true knowledge and worship of God."
> >
> >    Driven by market interests, the English, French, and Dutch
> >    tirelessly used anti-Spanish propaganda -- ritually fortified
> >    by Bartolome de Las Casas' vitriolic condemnation of his own
> >    countrymen -- to combat the Spanish monopoly in America. All
> >    of the European empires in the New World started, to some
> >    degree, as empires of conquest. With no more Mexicos or Perus
> >    to be plundered, however, the northern-European nations turned
> >    to commerce and agriculture for their profits. Although the
> >    indigenous victims of European expansionism would eventually
> >    extend from Argentina to Alaska, many English-language writers
> >    -- including esteemed novelists like Daniel Defoe -- have
> >    smugly attributed to Spaniards the greed and fraud practiced
> >    as well by later European imperialists. Savages like the
> >    Pizarro brothers were not a Spanish exclusive. The "Black
> >    Legend" of Spain's atrocities is belied, for many thinkers, by
> >    the near-extermination of the native populations in British
> >    North America. History is a tragedy, as this PBS series
> >    powerfully conveys, but some of it is a projection.
> >
> >    Diana de Armas Wilson is a professor of English and
> >    Renaissance studies at the University of Denver. She is the
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>
>    From the issue dated May 4, 2001
>
>    Killing for God and for Gold
>
>    By DIANA de ARMAS WILSON
>
>     "It's given to few people in history single-handedly to
>    destroy a civilization." With that caustic remark, Michael
>    Wood sums up the achievement of Hernan Cortes and hints at the
>    carnage documented in Conquistadors, a new PBS television
>    series. Written and presented by Wood, creator of more than 60
>    documentaries, the series chronicles the exploits of four key
>    figures in the American conquista: Cortes, Francisco Pizarro,
>    Francisco de Orellana, and Alvar Nunez Cabeza de Vaca.
>
>    With compelling material, an engaging narrator, lavish
>    photography, and haunting musical scores, Conquistadors may be
>    Wood's finest documentary. The series, however, seems
>    unfinished. Although it rightly celebrates, at the close of
>    its final episode, the existence of an "alternative" Spain
>    struggling for justice, it needs a fifth segment to document
>    how, one by one, other European nations would respond to the
>    Spanish conquest of the Americas. Sir Walter Raleigh's lament
>    that the king of Spain, Charles V, had taken "the maidenhead
>    of Peru" would be echoed by Europeans down the centuries.
>
>    The first episode of Conquistadors begins in Extremadura,
>    Spain, home to a cluster of 16th-century figures who left for
>    the New World almost barefoot but returned with their horses
>    shod in silver. The last episode ends in Spain, in the royal
>    capital of Valladolid, site of the Great Debate of 1550-51.
>
>    Viewers will wish to learn more about this unresolved debate,
>    between a Dominican friar, Bartolome de Las Casas, and a
>    celebrated jurist, Juan Gines de Sepulveda, on issues of race
>    and human rights. Those issues had evidently caught the
>    conscience of the king, Charles V, who halted the machinery of
>    trans-Atlantic conquests while Las Casas, the great defender
>    of  the Indians, challenged Sepulveda, the renowned translator
>    of Aristotle and interpreter of his doctrine of natural
>    slavery. If slaves were born and not made, as Aristotle had
>    suggested, then the landholding elite in the New World could
>    argue that its claims on the natives rested not on the rights
>    of the conquistadors, but on the nature of the conquered. And
>    if the conquered were not quite human -- or, in Sepulveda's
>    learned Latin, inculti and therefore inhumani -- could they
>    have human rights? Las Casas' response to that question haunts
>    the entire four-hour series: "All the peoples of the world are
>    human."
>
>    Cortes seems to have believed so, at least on first
>    impression. "What rational beings live here," he wrote to
>    Charles V in April 1519. Although this self-made man from
>    Extremadura remains an enigma, Wood tells us worlds about
>    Cortes with a few well-chosen phrases: He was a "great
>    womanizer and a gambler," a "poor boy" who dressed as if "born
>    in brocade." Whereas Don Quixote admired "the very courteous
>    Cortes" for having scuttled his ships at sea because he feared
>    a rebellion among his men, Wood admires him for rebuilding
>    them on dry land. Dragging a prefabricated fleet of 13
>    brigantines over the passes of Popocatepetl for a final attack
>    on Tenochtitlan may be the stuff of epic, but Wood never lets
>    us forget that Cortes was a destroyer -- that he had to ruin
>    his dream in order to achieve it.
>
>    Following Cortes's path from the beaches of Yucatan to the
>    fabled city of Tenochtitlan, Wood travels sometimes on foot
>    and sometimes by car, bus, or train. He carries with him
>    copies of Cortes's letters as well as two versions of the
>    conquest of Mexico: a soldierly Spanish chronicle written in
>    old age by a participant, Bernal Diaz del Castillo, and an
>    illustrated Aztec version recorded "from the best
>    eyewitnesses" by a Spanish friar, Bernardino de Sahagun. In
>    the series, Cortes's route is traced by maps and illustrated
>    by old film clips from Captain From Castile, a 1947 movie that
>    portrays some hokey encounters between Spaniards and Aztecs,
>    and by contemporary murals by a Tlaxcalan artist. We follow
>    some 300 Spaniards, their indigenous Cuban servants, horses,
>    dogs, and cannons -- "sticks that spurt fire," the Aztecs
>    would call them -- to the frontiers of the Tabasco River,
>    where Cortes first encounters his interpreter, the bilingual
>    woman who will "lead him to his destiny."
>
>    I would have welcomed more of the history, admittedly murky,
>    of Cortes's interpreter, the slave Malintzin -- hispanicized
>    as Dona Marina and stigmatized as La Malinche, the traitor.
>    Wood depicts her, through songs and interviews, as having
>    betrayed the Mexican nation by collaborating with the
>    conquistadors. Chicana feminists, on the other hand, regard
>    her affirmatively, no longer as a traitor and whore, but as a
>    cultural bridge.
>
>    We know that she was one of 20 female slaves presented to
>    Cortes in 1519 by a delegation of Tabascans. Although she was
>    given to the Spaniards "to make tortillas," as the Spanish
>    chronicles decorously put it, her knowledge of both Mayan and
>    Nahuatl was invaluable for Cortes as he marched toward his
>    encounters with Motecuhzoma, often called Montezuma in English
>    works. She became his interpreter, his mistress, and -- the
>    PBS documentary fails to mention this -- the mother of his son
>    Martin Cortes. Later, Cortes would dump her off on one of his
>    soldiers, Alonso Hernandez de Puertocarrero, and eventually
>    marry her off to yet another, Juan de Jaramillo. At least one
>    linguist in Nahuatl studies considers La Malinche to have been
>    a survivor of "chronic sexual assault."
>
>    Accompanied by his interpreter, Cortes continued his journey
>    to the city of his dreams. Bernal Diaz famously chronicled the
>    moment when the Spanish army came down through the clouds and
>    saw Tenochtitlan, the Aztec capital, built on a huge lake
>    approached by three causeways: "It seemed like an enchanted
>    vision from the book of Amadis." Arriving at Mexico City
>    almost five centuries later, Wood walks where Cortes walked,
>    dodging traffic and pointing out local Aztec place names
>    before entering what used to be Montezuma's palace, in the
>    commercial heart of the modern city. Aztec witnesses have left
>    a vivid description of their response to that November day in
>    1519 when two worlds met: It was "as if we all ate stupefying
>    mushrooms."
>
>    Wood argues that the Aztec version of the story -- the "vision
>    of the vanquished" -- is "as powerful and moving" as the fall
>    of Homer's Troy. "The other side also has a voice," he justly
>    reminds viewers, and it is the native peoples of the Americas
>    who are the heroes of the series. We hear some vivid Aztec
>    lamentations, including Montezuma's response to the Spanish
>    invasion of the neighboring state of Cholula: "[M]y heart
>    burns as if it's been washed in chilis."
>
>    Having followed in the footsteps of Cortes for the first
>    episode, Wood tracks the three other conquistadors through
>    markedly different terrain to their destinies. Pizarro,
>    Orellana, and Cabeza de Vaca all began their journeys in quest
>    of gold only to meet, respectively, with assassins, Amazons,
>    and hunger. Francisco Pizarro would be assassinated by rebel
>    Peruvians during a period of civil strife in 1541. For almost
>    a decade before his death, however, Pizarro, whom his own men
>    called "a butcher" and "a savage," had been a cruel and
>    callous leader, given to torturing and butchering rebellious
>    Indians, including women and children.
>
>    In the second episode, we see Pizarro re-entering Peru in 1532
>    -- he drew his famous line in the sand there five years
>    earlier -- with four of his brothers, 162 soldiers, 62 horses,
>    and a secretary who would relate their march up the cold punas
>    of the Andes toward the fertile valley of Cajamarca. Waiting
>    for him 20 leagues from Cajamarca was Atahualpa, the
>    30-year-old Inca ruler of a huge empire, informed by his royal
>    runners of every step of the Spanish advance.
>
>    When Atahualpa threw Father Valverde's Bible on the ground,
>    the Spaniards had their pretext for war. They killed some
>    6,000 natives in the square of Cajamarca and carried Atahualpa
>    off in chains. He offered to ransom himself by filling an
>    enormous room with gold. The Spaniards took the gold -- some
>    seven tons of it -- but killed him anyway. "They killed him
>    like a llama" -- a native movingly sings that refrain in
>    Quechua, the language still spoken across the Andes. Inca
>    versions of the story are depicted in Guaman Poma de Ayala's
>    Nueva Coronica y Buen Gobierno, a 1,200-page letter to the
>    king of Spain written around 1615, discovered in 1908, and
>    finally published in 1936. Wood wears white gloves as he
>    consults this rare manuscript in a library. Oddly
>    unacknowledged in this episode, however, is the great Peruvian
>    historian Garcilaso de la Vega, known as "El Inca," the son of
>    a Spanish soldier and an Inca princess, who so memorably
>    described Atahualpa's end in Historia General del Peru,
>    published in 1617: "They baptized him, and they garroted him."
>
>    After that event -- which the conquistador Pedro Cieza de Leon
>    called "the most despicable thing we ever did in this empire
>    of the Indies" -- the segment relates how the Pizarro brothers
>    ("as close-knit as a Mafia clan," notes Wood) march on to
>    Cuzco. There they appoint a puppet king, and -- through rape,
>    pillage, and savage reprisals -- manage to turn the Inca world
>    upside down. The camerawork in this episode captures some
>    astounding vistas of the Incas' sacred peaks, rope bridges,
>    and waterfalls, as well as the ruins of Vilcabamba, the "Lost
>    City of the Incas," and Machu Picchu. Wood closes this segment
>    with a glimpse of an annual festival high in the Andes,
>    showing that natives today have not forgotten the gods of
>    their Inca ancestors.
>
>    The third conquistador in the series, Francisco de Orellana,
>    was a veteran of the Inca wars before he traveled, almost
>    inadvertently, some 2,500 miles down to the mouth of the great
>    river to be called the Amazon. Intending to bring back help to
>    Gonzalo Pizarro's expedition -- reduced to near-starvation in
>    the jungle after a long and futile search for El Dorado --
>    Orellana and his 60-odd men were instead carried downstream
>    into the interior of Amazonia. It was the first such journey
>    by Europeans, who were at times reduced to "chewing their
>    boots to stay alive." One of Pizarro's men, the Dominican
>    friar Gaspar de Carvajal, kept a diary of the expedition,
>    which Wood periodically consults. Wood's account of the myth
>    of female warriors, however -- spliced with shots of
>    contemporary Brazilian women laughing about dominant women --
>    overlooks the friar's fanciful description of the Amazons:
>    "These women are very white and tall, with long hair braided
>    and wrapped around their heads, and they're very muscular and
>    walk about stark naked, only their shameful parts covered,
>    with bows and arrows in hand, each one as warlike as 10
>    Indians."
>
>    Aided by maps and wide-angle views of the Amazon, the episode
>    captures some of the many riverine cultures that the Spaniards
>    encountered before emerging at the Caribbean in 1542. The
>    following year, the Spanish historian Gonzalo Fernandez de
>    Oviedo would write a 24-page letter to Cardinal Pietro Bembo,
>    in Italy, about the "Rio de las Amazonas," giving the river
>    its present-day name.
>
>    The episode mentions Gonzalo Pizarro's unsuccessful attempts
>    to have Orellana, his cousin, tried for treason in Spain. It
>    might have added that, upon Orellana's return, Charles V --
>    increasingly uneasy about the religious implications of
>    Spain's New World conquests -- gave him a contract, drafted in
>    the spirit of the visionary New Laws. Those laws -- which
>    Charles V implemented in 1542 but was forced to revoke in 1545
>    -- prohibited the feudal institution of the encomienda system
>    that doled out natives to Spanish landowners. Orellana's
>    contract specified that "no harm be done to the Indians," who
>    were "human beings and subjects." While concluding that
>    Orellana never quite saw the natives as "fully human, like
>    himself," Wood also ponders this conquistador's need to return
>    to their Amazonian world, where he would die.
>
>    The last episode addresses the failed conquest of Cabeza de
>    Vaca and his arduous journey into the interior of America --
>    specifically, the present-day southern United States and
>    northern Mexico. The PBS documentary both depopulates and
>    overidealizes the journey. One of four castaways who survived
>    a catastrophic 1527 expedition to conquer La Florida, Cabeza
>    de Vaca lived to write a harrowing account of some nine years
>    of wandering, "lost and naked," across a vast and hostile
>    territory, from what is now Tampa to Culiacan, in northwestern
>    Mexico. His graphic image of himself and his companions in the
>    wilderness shedding their skins "twice a year, like snakes" is
>    fittingly invoked here. Wood spends too much time, however,
>    mustering scientific evidence to argue for the southern route
>    of the Spaniards' journey, as opposed to the more northerly
>    routes proposed by earlier scholars. The avowed intention of
>    Cabeza de Vaca's Relacion, as stated in his 1542 prologue to
>    Charles V, was to help future conquistadors understand "the
>    diverse customs of many and very barbarous nations"
>    encountered on his journey. The book's detailed accounts of
>    Indian customs -- concerning pregnancy, polygamy, divorce,
>    mourning, female infanticide, and warfare -- are trumped here
>    by empty speculations about Cabeza de Vaca's sex life in the
>    wilderness. Why no mention of the bearded and transgendered
>    Mala Cosa ("Bad Thing"), a small, demonic figure who slashes
>    stomachs, pulls out entrails, and dislocates elbows; or the
>    male amarionados who marry each other; or the Fig People, who
>    vomit their "black tea" if a menstruating woman approaches? A
>    few clips from the Mexican director Nicolas Echevarria's 1993
>    film Cabeza de Vaca illustrate the episode, which keeps
>    returning to one overarching theme: how this conquistador
>    managed to learn -- through an odyssey of hardship, hunger,
>    and enslavement -- "that the Indians were human beings."
>
>    As a British reporter of historical Spanish events at a time
>    when Spanish-speaking peoples are divided -- by the Atlantic,
>    by conflicts among different groups of Latinos in the United
>    States, by infighting in language departments about Latin
>    American versus Spanish peninsular perspectives and
>    appointments -- the intrepid Michael Wood has entered a
>    terrain where many contemporary academics fear to tread. His
>    treatment of the natives is politically faultless. I kept
>    waiting for him, however, to issue a disclaimer against the
>    "Black Legend," the propaganda spread by other Europeans about
>    the so-called "innate cruelty" and "unique rapacity" of the
>    conquistadors. As Sir Walter Raleigh himself allowed during
>    his failed quest for El Dorado, both the Spanish and English
>    came to the Indies "for one errant" -- the search for "Indian
>    gold."
>
>    In the third segment, on El Dorado, in which Wood laments the
>    "holocaust" perpetrated by outsiders since Orellana's arrival,
>    he might have gestured to Raleigh as one of them. The project
>    of evangelization, too, was not confined to the Spanish in
>    early America. In its more broadly Calvinist concerns for
>    "infidels and salvages," the 1609 charter of the Virginia
>    Company listed among its objectives the "propagating of
>    Christian religion to such people, as yet live in darkness and
>    miserable ignorance of the true knowledge and worship of God."
>
>    Driven by market interests, the English, French, and Dutch
>    tirelessly used anti-Spanish propaganda -- ritually fortified
>    by Bartolome de Las Casas' vitriolic condemnation of his own
>    countrymen -- to combat the Spanish monopoly in America. All
>    of the European empires in the New World started, to some
>    degree, as empires of conquest. With no more Mexicos or Perus
>    to be plundered, however, the northern-European nations turned
>    to commerce and agriculture for their profits. Although the
>    indigenous victims of European expansionism would eventually
>    extend from Argentina to Alaska, many English-language writers
>    -- including esteemed novelists like Daniel Defoe -- have
>    smugly attributed to Spaniards the greed and fraud practiced
>    as well by later European imperialists. Savages like the
>    Pizarro brothers were not a Spanish exclusive. The "Black
>    Legend" of Spain's atrocities is belied, for many thinkers, by
>    the near-extermination of the native populations in British
>    North America. History is a tragedy, as this PBS series
>    powerfully conveys, but some of it is a projection.
>
>    Diana de Armas Wilson is a professor of English and
>    Renaissance studies at the University of Denver. She is the
>    author of Cervantes, the Novel, and the New World (Oxford
>    University Press, 2001).
>
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#26 From: "Roberta H. Martinez" <martinez@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 5:46 pm
Subject: Re: [AztlanNet: EARTH|HEALTH|LABOR] Virus Attack
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Thanks for understanding.  And even greater thanks for availing the opportunity for postings.
r

Dorinda Moreno wrote:

hello roberta, i have enjoyed your posts and applaud your work. i too
am overwhelmed with much of the same posts, but i have complimentary
objects to your interests and work, so feel free to post your activities when
you have them without being a subscribimg member, that is find and good
will to you in your sacred path. we wish you exito in all you do. dm
p.s. the way to 'unsubscribe' is at bottom of this list.

"Roberta H. Martinez" wrote:

Heu Dorinda,

To tell you the truth, I can not actively participate.  I am very involved in local civic issues.  Most of my energies have to be directed to the changes that need to take place in Pasadena.  the healing of this community and maintaining the healthy state of my city and community (including ecologically) are where my energies are directed.

Of greatest concern to me is the efflort to increase the visibility of our community.  That is why I host and produce a tv show, am curating a show at the Pasadena Historical Museum and am the Chair for the Latino History Parade and Jamaica.  I am also historian for the Pasadena Latino Forum; which exists to build consensus and support issues in the local arena.  So far we have something over 20 groups and individuals who are involved and committed to working together to make positive changes take place in Pasadena.

Many of us are also working to increase the representation of the community within the "powers that be" basis.  Many of us here were very actively involved with the election of two Latinos.  We are involved with issues at PCC and City Hall.

As far as the support and concerns of artists I have had many on my t.v.. show.  That's my bit of time contribution.

My own interests do not seem to be significant to those who are involved Aztlannet. Over the last last year, I have seen interest in the plastic and visual arts, but in not too much else.  With the exception of politics and political identity.  Nothing wrong in that, fact is, I think that that is very necessary and stimulating. Just not what I want to actively involve myself with at this moment.

I guess the long (which this has turned out to be) and the short is that I care greatly about mother earth but prefer to not be a part of this group.  I feel most comfortable looking for the information on Aztlannet, rather than having it sent to me.

Thanks for the caring of your corazón, and the acting upon your good will,
r

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#25 From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: [AztlanNet: EARTH|HEALTH|LABOR] News Story
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dear juan carlos, as newly beginning moderator, i will not be answering
all posts and reading all material to the 't'. that would be time consuming
and keep me from other work, but, encourage responses from those
enterested. it is my hope that we keep the information flow without
incindary commentary pro or con. we know who the enemy is and
we cannot accomplish our mission with infighting amongst ourselves.
but, that is not the issue here, just my aside. paz contigo, dm

kobra@... wrote:

Here's the latest on this issue with the same moron, saying the same thing all over again, as though he thought his opinion are the only valid ones.

I wrote a response to this and unfortunately the paper felt that it was too confrontational and divisive.  Go figure.  They can print all of this garbage, but when someone offers a different point of view and takes on their opinion editor, they refuse to print it.  Hahaha

I'll send you guys my response later.

*Juan*

That is if you are not tired of reading this stuff.

Please let me know.

I don't want to bore none of you.

*Juan*
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#24 From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: [AztlanNet: EARTH|HEALTH|LABOR] Virus Attack
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hello roberta, i have enjoyed your posts and applaud your work. i too
am overwhelmed with much of the same posts, but i have complimentary
objects to your interests and work, so feel free to post your activities when
you have them without being a subscribimg member, that is find and good
will to you in your sacred path. we wish you exito in all you do. dm
p.s. the way to 'unsubscribe' is at bottom of this list.

"Roberta H. Martinez" wrote:

Heu Dorinda,

To tell you the truth, I can not actively participate.  I am very involved in local civic issues.  Most of my energies have to be directed to the changes that need to take place in Pasadena.  the healing of this community and maintaining the healthy state of my city and community (including ecologically) are where my energies are directed.

Of greatest concern to me is the efflort to increase the visibility of our community.  That is why I host and produce a tv show, am curating a show at the Pasadena Historical Museum and am the Chair for the Latino History Parade and Jamaica.  I am also historian for the Pasadena Latino Forum; which exists to build consensus and support issues in the local arena.  So far we have something over 20 groups and individuals who are involved and committed to working together to make positive changes take place in Pasadena.

Many of us are also working to increase the representation of the community within the "powers that be" basis.  Many of us here were very actively involved with the election of two Latinos.  We are involved with issues at PCC and City Hall.

As far as the support and concerns of artists I have had many on my t.v.. show.  That's my bit of time contribution.

My own interests do not seem to be significant to those who are involved Aztlannet. Over the last last year, I have seen interest in the plastic and visual arts, but in not too much else.  With the exception of politics and political identity.  Nothing wrong in that, fact is, I think that that is very necessary and stimulating. Just not what I want to actively involve myself with at this moment.

I guess the long (which this has turned out to be) and the short is that I care greatly about mother earth but prefer to not be a part of this group.  I feel most comfortable looking for the information on Aztlannet, rather than having it sent to me.

Thanks for the caring of your corazón, and the acting upon your good will,
r

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#23 From: "Roberta H. Martinez" <martinez@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 5:12 pm
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I just received 5 copies of this in my mail
Help! Take me off the list, please.

kobra@... wrote:

Here's a letter to the editor that I wrote in the Triad in response to racist rethoric that is being used to undermine the Mexican immigrant community in my area.

When they mess con mi gente, my bite is lethal.

Enjoy,

I'll keep you guys  updated on the situation and on the issues happening around here.

*Juan*
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#22 From: "Roberta H. Martinez" <martinez@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 5:09 pm
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Heu Dorinda,

To tell you the truth, I can not actively participate.  I am very involved in local civic issues.  Most of my energies have to be directed to the changes that need to take place in Pasadena.  the healing of this community and maintaining the healthy state of my city and community (including ecologically) are where my energies are directed.

Of greatest concern to me is the efflort to increase the visibility of our community.  That is why I host and produce a tv show, am curating a show at the Pasadena Historical Museum and am the Chair for the Latino History Parade and Jamaica.  I am also historian for the Pasadena Latino Forum; which exists to build consensus and support issues in the local arena.  So far we have something over 20 groups and individuals who are involved and committed to working together to make positive changes take place in Pasadena.

Many of us are also working to increase the representation of the community within the "powers that be" basis.  Many of us here were very actively involved with the election of two Latinos.  We are involved with issues at PCC and City Hall.

As far as the support and concerns of artists I have had many on my t.v.. show.  That's my bit of time contribution.

My own interests do not seem to be significant to those who are involved Aztlannet. Over the last last year, I have seen interest in the plastic and visual arts, but in not too much else.  With the exception of politics and political identity.  Nothing wrong in that, fact is, I think that that is very necessary and stimulating. Just not what I want to actively involve myself with at this moment. 

I guess the long (which this has turned out to be) and the short is that I care greatly about mother earth but prefer to not be a part of this group.  I feel most comfortable looking for the information on Aztlannet, rather than having it sent to me.

Thanks for the caring of your corazón, and the acting upon your good will,
r


#21 From: kobra@...
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 5:04 pm
Subject: News Story
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Here's the latest on this issue with the same moron, saying the same thing all
over again, as though he thought his opinion are the only valid ones.


I wrote a response to this and unfortunately the paper felt that it was too
confrontational and divisive.  Go figure.  They can print all of this garbage,
but when someone offers a different point of view and takes on their opinion
editor, they refuse to print it.  Hahaha

I'll send you guys my response later.

*Juan*

That is if you are not tired of reading this stuff.

Please let me know.

I don't want to bore none of you.

*Juan*
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=1744855&BRD=1332&PAG=461&dept_id=41969\
1&rfi=8


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#20 From: kobra@...
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 4:59 pm
Subject: News Story
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Here's an article written by the opinion-editor of the paper who jumps on the
issue and pleads his case.  Notice how he takes offense at people's allegiance
and wonders if someone can be trusted, if they don't speak the language.  Hahaha

*Juan*
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=1684572&BRD=1332&PAG=461&dept_id=41969\
1&rfi=8


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     + Web Address: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?brd=1332
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#19 From: kobra@...
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 4:57 pm
Subject: News Story
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Here's a latino taking a stand against the garbage that is being spewed rather
freely on the editorials.

It's good to know, that I'm not the only one who feels this way.  *wooohoooo*

*Juan*
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=1674729&BRD=1332&PAG=461&dept_id=41969\
1&rfi=8


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#18 From: kobra@...
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 4:55 pm
Subject: News Story
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Here's a response from a lady who agrees with the racist views and just loves
Mexican.  Can you feel the love that she emanates from her heart?!  *hahaha*  It
is so warming, that she is so sickeningly rotten.  Like a worm rotting into an
apple, is how her rethoric makes me feel.

Juan Carlos
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=1604191&BRD=1332&PAG=461&dept_id=41969\
1&rfi=8


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#17 From: kobra@...
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 4:50 pm
Subject: News Story
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Here's a letter to the editor that I wrote in the Triad in response to racist
rethoric that is being used to undermine the Mexican immigrant community in my
area.

When they mess con mi gente, my bite is lethal.

Enjoy,

I'll keep you guys  updated on the situation and on the issues happening around
here.

*Juan*
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=1593615&BRD=1332&PAG=461&dept_id=41969\
1&rfi=8


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#16 From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [AztlanNet: EARTH|HEALTH|LABOR] Saludos a Todos
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si pues, juan carlos, welcome back. we enjoy your passionate ramblings.
they were missed by all. you are gracing us with your presencia. saludos! dm

Juan Carlos Rangel-Guillen wrote:

> Saludos hermano Phil.
>
> Glad to be back.
>
> I would hope that you would indulge us with your master poetic breath
> and inspire us to new and greather heights.
>
> Although, I'm still having problems forwarding and sending stuff that
> I know you guys would enjoy reading.
>
> I'll keep trying to send them.
>
> Sinceramente,
>
> Juan Carlos
>
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#15 From: lorenza.munoz@...
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: [AztlanNet: EARTH|HEALTH|LABOR] Cheney Quote - Conservation
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please take me off your email list.

#14 From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [AztlanNet: EARTH|HEALTH|LABOR] Virus Attack
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hi roberta, this is dorinda, the listserve 'earth/health/labor, offers
a place to cite those issues which affect the planet and healing. and,
actually all site's sort of criss-cross in many ways with each other,
from aztlannet, aztecanet, to chicle... i often see the same posts
everywhere... i hope that healing information, be it environmental
social, civic, and personal, that you find a place where we can exchange
our best efforts to bring mass action to impact on change for the betterment
of the world we all share. the 'i love you virus' is a toxin to the internet, as
dangerous as the bombing of vieques, or the vicious attacks of gossip is
to our artists. we can all benefit by entering into a positive dialogue even
when we disagree. i hope this this listserve is one in which your spirit of
caretaking is nourished. the earth is our mother, dm

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#13 From: "Juan Carlos Rangel-Guillen" <kobra@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: [AztlanNet: EARTH|HEALTH|LABOR] Saludos a Todos
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Saludos hermano Phil.

Glad to be back.

I would hope that you would indulge us with your master poetic breath
and inspire us to new and greather heights.


Although, I'm still having problems forwarding and sending stuff that
I know you guys would enjoy reading.

I'll keep trying to send them.

Sinceramente,

Juan Carlos

#12 From: HGold42734@...
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 11:58 am
Subject: Re: [AztlanNet: EARTH|HEALTH|LABOR] Saludos a Todos
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good to hear your auuuuuuuu - again, hermano - Feliz Cinco

phil

#11 From: "Roberta H. Martinez" <martinez@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: [AztlanNet: EARTH|HEALTH|LABOR] Virus Attack
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>
>  j.l. navarro: http://tuvo_13.tripod.com/books/
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "McAfee.com Dispatch" <dispatch@...>
> To: <cycocat3@...>
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 7:05 PM
> Subject: Anniversary of ILOVEYOU (VBS/LoveLetter) Virus Attack
>
> (((((((((((((((((( McAfee.com Dispatch )))))))))))))))))))))
>
> __________________INFORMATION DISPATCH______________________
>
> [This message is brought to you as a subscriber to the
> McAfee.com Dispatch. To unsubscribe, please follow the
> instructions at the bottom of the page.]
>
> ***Anniversary of ILOVEYOU (VBS/LoveLetter) Virus Attack****
>
> Dear McAfee.com Dispatch Subscriber:
>
> On May 4, 2000, the infamous LoveLetter (AKA ILOVEYOU)
> virus spread itself to millions of PCs around the world in
> six hours, and caused over $7 billion dollars (USD) in
> damage.  This event highlighted the importance of securing
> your PC against viruses and hackers and changed global
> impressions of Internet security.  One year later, as part
> of our ongoing effort to prevent damage of this magnitude
> from occurring again, McAfee.com commemorates this event May
> 4-11, 2001, by offering the following specials to protect
> home users and businesses:
>
> Home Users
> Beginning on May 4, 2001, the one-year anniversary of the
> LoveLetter outbreak, we will offer consumers an opportunity
> to run a free scan on their PCs, checking for the over
> 57,000 viruses, worms, Trojans and other malicious code
> known to exist today.  Individual users can also purchase a
> one-year subscription of VirusScan Online, our advanced,
> always up-to-date, anti-virus service, for the special price
> of $19.95 (USD) - a 20% discount.  Click here for more info.
> -> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=2220
>
> Business Users
> Also on this date, businesses, which suffered the brunt of
> the damage caused by the Love Letter attack, will have the
> opportunity to protect themselves with our Security.NET
> service.  This service enables administrators and IT
> managers to manage, maintain, and distribute business
> security applications in a revolutionary new manner. Our
> proven ASP (Application Service Provider) technology allows
> for the rapid deployment of company-wide anti-virus,
> anti-hacker, and wireless security solutions in businesses
> with anywhere from 5 to 5,000 PCs.  McAfee.com will offer a
> free trial of this service to businesses to help secure them
> from any future attacks of this nature.  Click here for more
> info.
> -> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=2221
>
> Our Business Sales team can also offer other McAfee
> products to fight viruses on your desktops and servers.
> Click here for more info.
> -> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=2223
>
> For more information please visit our website www.mcafee.com
> and take advantage of these limited time, special offers. Do
> your part to make sure history doesn't repeat itself!
>
> --Your friends at McAfee.com
>
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>
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#10 From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 2:38 pm
Subject: Re: rockncommentary
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Drew W Hempel wrote:

> This fun piece, amazingly in Business Week, is written by a good friend (of
> course BW had to throw in "rag tag" and "violence" of Seattle). It's an
> excellent handout to the "brainwashed." drew
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2001/nf2001052_941.htm
>
> MAY 2, 2001
> COMMENTARY By B. Kite
>  Free Trade? Someone Always Has to Pay
>
> >From Seattle's riots to the Quebec protests, not even the thickest cloud of
> tear gas can obscure the truth that globalism hurts workers
>
> To hear the punditry tell it, the protesters who turned out in Quebec a few
> weeks ago and, more recently, at the International Monetary Fund meeting in
> Washington on Apr. 28-29, are largely irrelevant to the debate over free
> trade. A serious force for change? Not this ragtag bunch. Among the
> experts, the protesters were seen as either unrealistic "flat earthers"
> (according to The New York Times's Thomas Friedman) or, at best, sadly
> misguided (those toward the left end of this narrow spectrum of opinion
> take the opportunity to trot out memories of their own ancient activism in
> the '60s).
>
> And you can feel the contempt of most national leaders. "It's very easy to
> protest when you have a job, when you have food on the table, like those
> protesters have," said Mexican President Vicente Fox at the Quebec summit.
> Almost makes you wonder why the working poor in the maquiladoras didn't
> book a flight to Canada for the weekend.
>
> TV reporters, meanwhile, now know what motivates the globophobic crowd --
> they come to smash things and party. This, if true, really ought to set off
> alarm bells, because it means America has raised a generation of masochists
> who view getting beaten and tear-gassed as just what they need to spice up
> their revels.
>
> WRONG ISSUES.  Young people get a pretty rough deal from these aged
> experts. Not long ago, the same pundits were wringing their hands over the
> perceived apathy of a generation of slackers (cue, again, the '60s
> flashbacks). Now that a significant segment of modern youth is again
> demonstrating passionate concern about something -- well, the problem is
> they just keep picking the wrong issues. Protesting against human-rights
> abuses, job loss, environmental depredation, giving corporations the
> ability to rewrite laws? Those crazy kids will never learn.
>
>  Much has been made of the so-called "democracy clause" in the latest
> Hemispheric Free Trade Zone proposal circulated in Quebec. But you have to
> wonder: If the document is, in fact, the celebration of freedom and
> democracy that the signatories claim, why did they feel the need to take
> such stringent and undemocratic steps as building a giant fence to keep
> protestors away from the event? Yes, I remember the violence at the World
> Trade Organization meeting in Seattle. But what about keeping the trade
> document hidden from the public and most elected lawmakers (while making it
> available to 500 business leaders) until the very last minute?
>
> It isn't democratic, but it is strategic. Truth is, once people find out
> what's in these trade pacts, they tend not to like them very much. Clinton
> tried to do the same thing with the global Multilateral Agreement on
> Investment (MAI), keeping it secret even from Congress. When a copy of that
> agreement leaked onto the Internet, Clinton, with the lovable roguishness
> that has endeared him to liberals across the country, pointed to the
> surreptitious posting as proof the document was available for public
> scrutiny.
>
> BACKLASH.  The MAI went down in flames, and the same fate may await the
> FTAA. There's a backlash that has been building ever since the passage of
> the North American Free Trade Agreement, because "free trade" can carry a
> high price for a lot of people. According to a report from economist Robert
> Scott of the labor-backed Economic Policy Institute, NAFTA has eliminated
> some 766,000 job opportunities in the U.S. -- primarily for manufacturing
> workers without college educations. Contrary to what the American promoters
> of NAFTA promised U.S. workers, the agreement didn't result in an increased
> trade surplus with Mexico. Quite the reverse.
>
>  "As manufacturing jobs disappeared, some workers were downscaled to
> lower-paying, less-secure services jobs," Scott writes. "Within
> manufacturing, the threat of employers to move production to Mexico proved
> a powerful weapon for undercutting workers' bargaining power."
> (www.epinet.org/briefingpapers/nafta01/)
>
> But that's just the bitter pill American workers will have to swallow to
> help Mexico's poor, right? (Amazing how open to socialist arguments
> industry leaders are, as long as it isn't their income being
> redistributed.) Well, according to the EPI study, Mexican wages have
> decreased 27% since NAFTA, while hourly income from labor is down 40%.
>
> FUEL FOR THE FIRE.  And it isn't only factory workers who feel the impact.
> Corporations now have the legal means to try to rewrite troublesome laws.
> To take just one example, under NAFTA's Chapter 11 rules, Ethyl Corp. sued
> Canada for its ban on toxic gasoline additive MMT, claiming the ban
> expropriated its business by denying the company the profits it expected to
> earn from sales in the country. Ethyl won, forcing Canada to pay the
> company $13 million and lift the environmental regulation. It's cases such
> as this that make people suspicious of free trade.
>
> According to true believers, we should all eventually gain from the
> "creative destruction" inherent in free trade. Exporting production allows
> for cheaper manufacture of goods, while jobs are created in new labor
> markets. People in consuming countries get goods at lower prices because
> they are produced more efficiently. Wages in developing nations rise.
> Eventually, everybody wins. And, as the Clinton Administration assured us
> before the passage of NAFTA, free trade creates jobs in the U.S. -- 200,000
> per year, they claimed. So there might be some temporary dislocations in
> the workforce, but, in the words of the old saw, you can't make an omelet
> without breaking eggs.
>
> As George Orwell pointed out when confronted with this argument, you should
> immediately ask to see the omelet. The Mexican people don't seem to be
> getting much of a bite, since in addition to falling wages, the number of
> people living in "severe poverty" (surviving on less than $2 a day) has
> grown by 4 million since NAFTA began, according to a January, 2001, report
> by Sarah Anderson of the Institute for Policy Studies.
>
> POINTLESS SURVEYS.  In the U.S., we can at least see egg on the face of the
> U.S. Commerce Dept. Several years ago, it canceled its biannual surveys of
> American companies intended to document NAFTA-related job creation because
> the results were so piddling -- fewer than 1,500 jobs could be attributed
> to the treaty.
>
> But for the signatories, the prospect of this hemisphere of liberty is just
> too grand to resist. According to Argentina President Fernando de la Rua,
> "The next summit...will not require walls to keep out those who come to
> protest. But there will be space for those who have come to applaud when we
> work for the benefit and progress of all people."
>
> Perhaps they'll take a travel tip from the WTO, which is holding its next
> meeting in the emirate of Qatar, which, coincidentally, has no troublesome
> rules protecting freedom of assembly. They won't even have to build a big
> fence.
>
> Kite is an editor at BusinessWeek Online
> Edited by Douglas Harbrecht

#9 From: "Juan Carlos Rangel-Guillen" <kobra@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 3:43 pm
Subject: Saludos a Todos
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Greetings brothers and sisters.

I'm flattered that I was invited back to share with you the struggles
and tribulations that we as a people are undergoing on this new
millenium.

I have lots of respect for each of you, because all of you whether or
not you realize it.  Are one of a kind in your own way.

I'm glad to share my little insights and passionately stand next to
each of you and stand up to the injustices of this world.

Being the jokester or the coyote, I pop in and out unexpectedly.

One thing you can be sure of with me.  You will always be amused,
entertained and above all, blown away.  I love mi gente and my
literary power is never "abused" or "misused", except to "placate"
and "educate" those idiotic morons who can't stand to see Mexicans
and chicanos speak up.

This is a new millenium, and I'm taking my stand.
I bow to no one, nor am I going to let mi gente be trampled on.

We are growing and we are not going anywhere.

Let those who hate us, despise us, eat their hearts out.

We are here to stay
So let me hear a big coyote yowl "auuuuuu" from all of you
and be glad of your roots.

Sinceramente,
su amigo
Juan Carlos
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#7 From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 4:56 am
Subject: [OC Greens needed at State energy hearings]
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SAY NO TO RATE HIKES !!!! GO TO A PUC HEARING...

The California Public Utilities Commission (PUC) is
hosting a series of hearings on its proposal to
restructure electric rates for customers of PG&E.
Below is the list of times and places the meetings
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While you are of course free to give whatever message
you see fit, the message that Global Exchange
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since PG&E already got over $20 billion in overcharges
from us since 1996 as part of the "stranded costs"
they were granted in deregulation; they made $5
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parent company--so the PUC should make the parent
company pay the debts of the utility, not us
consumers. Remember, we consumers are not the ones
responsible for this crisis, we should not be the ones
to pay.

This is one of the few times the public has a chance
to voice our opinion. Please try to make to time to do
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future events, let us know.

Thanks so much.
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#6 From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 12:35 am
Subject: Re: [AztlanNet: EARTH|HEALTH|LABOR] Cheney Quote - Conservation
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more of the same repub verbage, but that is to be expected from dick cheney,
isn't it? can you come up with ways that the 'conservationist virtue' of the
average
citizen can be utilized to get from point a to point b, in the most ethical way?
d

Rich Vazquez wrote:

> Probably hoping nobody was paying attention:
>
> http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2001/05/03/p1s1.htm
> Bush's national energy strategy, while not yet public in full, is already
> taking heat. Democratic lawmakers say it leans too hard on oil, gas, coal,
> and nuclear energy, and not enough on conservation and efficiency. They
> criticized Vice President Dick Cheney's statements, made Monday, that
> "conservation may be a sign of personal virtue, but it is not a sufficient
> basis for a sound, comprehensive energy policy."
>
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#5 From: "Rich Vazquez" <brujo@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2001 12:54 am
Subject: Cheney Quote - Conservation
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Probably hoping nobody was paying attention:

http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2001/05/03/p1s1.htm
Bush's national energy strategy, while not yet public in full, is already
taking heat. Democratic lawmakers say it leans too hard on oil, gas, coal,
and nuclear energy, and not enough on conservation and efficiency. They
criticized Vice President Dick Cheney's statements, made Monday, that
"conservation may be a sign of personal virtue, but it is not a sufficient
basis for a sound, comprehensive energy policy."

..................................................
Richard L Vázquez

#4 From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@...>
Date: Thu May 3, 2001 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: Support for Quebec City
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Starhawk wrote:

> Hi all, I'm sorry this is so long.  The truth is, the action was so intense
> that it's taken me a while to even begin to sort it out, and i can't seem to
> do it succeinctly.  But if you're not tired yet of Quebec Stories, here it
> is.  If you don't get the whole thing, it will be up on my website within a
> few days at www.starhawk.org.  I'm also trying to write something more
> analytical and less descriptive, but that will probably take even longer.
> Love Starhawk
>
> The Bridge At Midnight Trembles:  My Story of Quebec City
> By Starhawk
>
> Under the freeway, they are drumming.  Clad in black, hooded in sweatshirts,
> they pick up sticks and beat on the iron railings, on the metal sculptures
> that grace this homeless park, on the underpinnings of the overpass that
> links the lower town to the upper levels of Quebec City.  They are mostly
> young and they are angry and jubilant, dancing in the night after two days
> on the barricades.  From above, the cops fire volleys of tear gas.  It
> billows up in clouds and drifts down like an eerily beautiful, phantom fog,
> but the dancers  keep on dancing.  The sound and the rhythm grows and grows,
> a roar that fills the city, louder than you can imagine, loud enough, it
> seems, to crack the freeways, bring the old order down.  The rumbling of the
> rapids as you approach the unseen waterfall.  A pulsing, throbbing heartbeat
> of something being born.  A rough beast, not slouching but striding toward
> Bethlehem, in solidarity and pride.
>
> A carnaval, a dance, a battle.  Images of war: the tear gas clouds, the
> spray of the water cannon, the starbursts of exploding gas, and yes, the
> rocks and bricks and bottles.  No one has come here expecting a safe or
> peaceful struggle.  Everyone who is here has overcome fear, and must
> continue to do so moment by moment.
>
> In the chaos, the confusion, the moments of panic, there is also a
> sweetness, an exuberance.  Spring after winter.  Freedom.  Release.  The
> rough tenderness of a hand holding open an eye to be washed out from tear
> gas.  The kindness of strangers offering their homes to the protestors: come
> up, use our toilets, eat these muffins we have baked, fill your bottles with
> water.
>
> We are the Living River: a cluster within the action that sometimes swells
> to a couple of hundred people, sometimes shrinks to fifty.   Our core is
> made up of Pagans, who are here because we believe the earth is sacred and
> that all human beings are part of that living earth.  Many of us have known
> each other and worked together for years: others are new, drawn together
> from outlying places by the internet and the organizing.  One woman has
> brought her teenage children: our oldest member, Leah, is eighty-four.  Our
> goal is to bring attention to issues of water, we say, although our true
> goal is to embody the element of water under fire.
> We carry the Cochabamba Declaration, which was written by a group of people
> in Bolivia who staged an uprising to retake their water supply after it had
> been privatized by Bechtel Corporation.   They wrote:
>
> The Cochabamba Declaration:
>
> "For the right to life, for the respect of nature and the uses and
> traditions of our ancestors and our peoples, for all time the following
> shall be declared as inviolable rights with regard to the uses of water
> given us by the earth:
>
> 1)    Water belongs to the earth and all species and is sacred  to life,
> therefore, the world's water must be conserved, reclaimed and protected for
> all future generations and its natural patterns respected.
>  2)    Water is a fundamental human right and a public trust to be guarded
> by all levels of government, therefore, it should not be commodified,
> privatized or traded for commercial purposes.  These rights must be
> enshrined at all levels of government.  In particular, an international
> treaty must ensure these principles are noncontrovertible.
> 3)      Water is best protected by local communities and citizens who must
> be respected as equal partners with governments in the protection and
> regulation of water. Peoples of the earth are the only vehicle to promote
> earth democracy and save water."
>
> The Declaration is the alternative.  Itıs what we are fighting for, not
> against.  Our goal is to bring it into the Congress Center, declare the FTAA
> meeting illegitimate because it is not supported by the people, and suggest
> they begin negotiating to protect the waters.  Failing that, we will get as
> close as we can, and declare the Declaration wherever we are stopped.
>
> As we are mobilizing, our friends in Bolivia stage a March for Life and
> Sovereignty, which is violently repressed.  Oscar Olivera, one of the
> framers of the Declaration, is arrested, charged with treason, but then
> released.  As we are tear gassed, so the March is tear gassed, again and
> again.  In Bolivia, two people die, one asphyxiated by the gas.  In Quebec,
> there are near deaths, a man shot in the trachea by a rubber bullet, asthma
> attacks from the tear gas, a finger torn off in the assault on the fence.
> In Sao Paolo the youth blockadeing the Avenida Paulista are brutally
> attacked and beaten.  One of our friends is hospitalized with a broken
> wrist.
>
> Our River has banners and flags and blue cloth suspended on poles and blue
> costumes and water songs.  In theory the action is divided into zones‹a
> green zone for nonarrest, safe actions; a yellow zone for nonviolent,
> Œdefensiveı actions; a red zone for confrontational actions.  In practice,
> aside from two designated green areas,  no one knows exactly where these
> zones are or what they are supposed to mean.  Anyway, weıre the blue group,
> something outside of the plan.  We are prepared to be nonviolent and
> confrontational.  However, many of us are ten to twenty years older than the
> average protestor, most of us are women, and for many of the group, this is
> their first action ever.  Some of us are prepared to go over the perimeter,
> if the chance arises, to risk arrest and physical confrontation.  Others are
> not.  So the river has four streams within it.  Each will follow a flag of
> one of the elements.  The green Earth flag will always make the safest
> choice in any situation.  The blue Water flag will rally those willing to
> take the greatest risks.  The red Fire and yellow Air flags will support the
> blue but not directly risk arrest.  Affinity groups may stay together to
> follow one flag, or decide ahead of time how they will split when a moment
> of danger comes.  Each person in the river has a buddy, someone they always
> keep track of, so that no one can get lost.  Our scouts, Charles, Laura and
> Lisa, run ahead and check routes, come back and report or phone in.  At
> times, the river is able to stop and make a choice collectively about what
> to do.  At other times, it is impossible to meet or even hear each other,
> and the flag bearers decide.
>
> Friday afternoon.  The River has spiraled at the gate at Rene Levesque,
> where the night before the Womenıs Action hung our weavings.  As we wind up
> the circle, beginning to raise the power, Evergreen comes up to me with a
> man in tow who is decked in the Cuban flag.  He is part of a small group of
> indigenous people who have been holding a vigil at the gate, and our group
> is so metaphoric, (and we never quite got the signs made that said clearly
> what we were doing) that somehow he has gotten the impression that we are
> for the FTAA.  We are singing, "The river is flowing," and he is from
> Honduras and his land is flooded from ecological breakdown and hurricane
> Mitch, and the only way we can demonstrate our solidarity, he says, is to
> join him in his chant.  "Why not?" I shrug and we begin to chant in Spanish
> and English, "El pueblo, unido, jamas sera vencido!"  "The people, united,
> will never be defeated!"  The shout has a rhythm of its own, an angry and
> hopeful power.
>
> We dance on down to St. Jean Street, singing, "Fleuve, porte moi, ma mere tu
> restera, Fleuve, porte moi, vers la ocean."  The news comes from our
> scouts‹the CLAC march has reached the gate weıve just left, and the fence is
> already down.  I literally jump for joy.  Quickly we regroup, and the blue,
> red and yellow flags decide to head back up for the gates.
> We move up the street, stop in an intersection.  Our scouts are ahead of us,
> checking out the side streets.  We make a circle, begin to sing,
>     "Hold on, hold on, hold the vision until itıs born."
> We begin a spiral, start to wind the power up, and suddenly I know clearly
> that we need to move up the hill, into the battle.  I look at Wilow, our
> Blue flag bearer, who smiles because she knows what Iım thinking.  We nod,
> and she waves the flag.  We advance forward.  Up to Rene Levesque, into the
> avenue and out in front of the theater, singing and drumming.  We receive
> cheers‹"Hey, itıs the River."  Closer to the gate, the cops are firing tear
> gas at the crowd.  Young men run out of the crowd, shadows in the fog, and
> throw them back.  The gas billows up and is blown back onto the police
> lines.  We are still able to breathe, and sing, so we start a spiral.  The
> circle grows: other people join hands and dance with us, moving ever closer
> to the gate, not running away, not giving ground.  All along it has been
> hard to decide what the action of this direct action should be.  Now we all
> see that the fence is the action.  Challenging it, pulling it down, keeping
> up the pressure on the perimeter, refusing to go away, demanding to stay and
> be seen and heard.
>     We spiral and dance, the drums pounding against the thunder of the
> projectiles as they shoot tear gas canisters overhead, laughing with the
> sheer liberation and surrealism of it all.   Until at last one shot lands
> close to us, the gas pours out and engulfs us in a stinging, blinding cloud,
> and we are forced away.
>     Down the hill we stop, wash out our eyes, rejoin the red and yellow
> flags.  We help other people who also need their eyes washed.  I am grateful
> for the training Laura gave us‹grateful to remember that I can breathe
> through the tear gas, though it hurts, to know how to wash eyes properly,
> how to rinse my throat, spit, rinse, spit before drinking.
>     We decide to flow on, to the blockade on the Cote dıAbraham a few blocks
> away.  A couple of young people beg us to stay, to go back up the hill, and
> Iım tempted.  They want the energy we bring, and they feel safer when weıre
> there.  But we hear that the Cote dıAbraham gate could also use some energy,
> and the mission of the River is to flow, so we go on.  We could use ten, a
> hundred Rivers.
>     The gate at the cote dıAbraham is a stage‹elevated above the lower city,
> it closes off one of the main thoroughfares where three highways converge.
> A crossroads.  We can look out over the lower city and the faraway hills
> where a red sun is about to set.  When we arrive, the energy feels
> fragmented.  Some people are drumming and dancing, others milling around,
> some tossing things at the police lines behind the fence, others just not
> quite knowing what to do.  We synch to the beat of the drummers and begin a
> circle that grows and grows.  Three or four hundred people are holding hands
> when we begin to spiral.  The drummers move into the center and we wind and
> wind the spiral until the chant gets lost in the drum jam beat.  Behind us,
> Donna has moved over to the fence and is scolding the police, especially the
> one woman among them.  "How can you do this?  You‹a woman!  A Canadian!
> What are you thinking of!"
> The area has been so heavily gassed that many of us canıt stay long.  The
> energy peaks, not into a cone of power but into a wild dance.  Our scouts
> report that riot cops are massing down the street, heading toward us to
> clear the area.  I ask the drummers to stop for a moment so we can inform
> people but they just shrug, Œso what?ı  They wonıt let a little thing like a
> police attack interrupt their music.  The river flows on.  Behind us, we can
> look back and see the spray of the water cannon, arching high in the air,
> filled with light like a holy and terrible rain that plays upon the black
> figures who hold their ground below..
>
> Saturday morning:  About twenty of us gather in the house where weıre
> staying.  Everyone is braver than before.  I am awed.  Some of us have been
> activists for decades, and carry into the actions a slow courage that has
> grown over many, many years.  But some of our people have made that internal
> journey in one night.
> All along Iıve been carrying a feeling of responsibility for these new
> people.  I know they are all adults; they have made their own choices with
> their eyes wide open.  But still, I know that many of them would not be here
> in this place of danger if I hadnıt urged people to come.  And itıs one
> thing to decide, in the safety of your home, to go to a demonstration.  Itıs
> another thing to face the reality of the chaos, the tear gas, the potential
> for violence.
> I am here, I have done my best to inspire and encourage other people to be
> here with me, because as scared as I might be of the riot cops and the
> rubber bullets, Iım a thousand times more scared of what will happen if we
> arenıt here, if we donıt challenge that meeting going on behind these walls.
> Even if the river seems placid, I can hear the roar of the waterfall in my
> ears.  In the beauty of the woods, in the quiet of the morning when I sit
> outside and listen for the birdsong, in every place that should feel like
> safety, I know by the feel of the current that we are headed for an
> irrevocable edge, an ecological/economic/social crash of epic dimensions,
> for our system is not sustainable and we are running out of room to
> maneuver.  The mostly men running the governments and the corporations and
> the economic institutions of the world seem incapable of grasping reality:
> that nature is real, and has limits and needs of her own that must be
> respected; that neither human beings nor forests nor oil reserves can be
> endlessly exploited without causing great damage to the world, that the
> basic life support systems of the planet are under assault. In the meeting
> we are protesting, the Congress protected by the fence and the wall and the
> riot cops and the army, they are planning to unleash the plundering forces
> and remove all controls.  Water, land, forests, energy, health, education,
> all of the human services communities perform for each other will be
> confirmed as arenas for corporate profit making, with all of our efforts to
> regulate the damage undermined.
> And I am here because I am inspired by the incredible courage, the energy,
> the commitment of the mostly young people in this struggle.  And because I
> have felt, all along, a vortex of forces converging on this time and this
> place, and that a cadre of Witches is just what is needed to work those
> energies.
> And what I hear from my friends now confirms my feelings.  "I know, now, why
> you do this."  "This is what we have been training for, all these years."
> "This action itself is a training ground.  Weıre just beginning."
> We circle, sing, raise power, and make our decision. We will go to the labor
> march, whose leaders have planned to walk safely away from the wall.  But we
> will join the groups that plan to break off and return to challenge the
> perimeter.
>
> Saturday afternoon:  I am standing in the alley with Juniper who has never
> been in an action before and with Lisa who has been in many.  There is an
> opening in the wall, but the riot cops stand behind, defending it, their
> shields down, impermeably masked, padded and gloved and holding their long
> sticks ready to strike.
>
> Willow moves forward, begins to read the Cochabamba Declaration.  The cops
> interrupt, shouting something, and move out from behind the fence.  Their
> clubs are ready to strike: one holds the gun that fires tear gas projectiles
> and points it at us.  Lisa and I look at each other, one eye on the cops,
> the other on the crowd behind us.  "What do we want to do here?" she asks
> me.  The cops begin to advance..  "Sit down," someone calls behind us, maybe
> someone we ourselves trained to sit in this very situation.
> We sit down.  The cops tense.  Juniper begins to cry.  I am going to tell
> her she doesnıt have to be in the front line, but she smiles through the
> tears and says, "It only gets good when you start to cry," and I know that
> nothing could make her leave.  We are holding hands.  I consider whether we
> should link up, make a stronger line.
>     We pass the Cochabamba Declaration back to someone who speaks French and
> begins to read it out loud.  I pass my drum back, hoping one of my friends
> will pick it up.
>     I see one of the cops slightly lower his baton.  Another wavers: their
> perfect line now shows some variation.  They are beginning to relax.
>     A rock sails out of the crowd behind us, flies over our heads and lands
> at the copsı feet.  In a second they are on alert, moving toward us.
> "NOOOOO!" the whole crowd behind us cries in one outraged voice to the
> thrower of the rock.  "Peace!" they call out to the cops, raising their arms
> and flashing peace signs.  In the front line, we are still, holding hands,
> waiting.  Breathe and ground.  The cops slowly relax again.
>     From behind, someone passes up flowers.  Heather brought them in the
> morning, saying she wanted to do something nonviolent, give them to the
> police.  I remember thinking that hers was an idea so sweet that it belonged
> in some other universe than the one I anticipated being in that day.  She
> had not looked too happy when I explained that we intended to follow CLAC
> and the Black Bloc up to the perimeter.  "People might think weıre
> supporting them," she said.  "Well, we are supporting them," I explained. At
> least, for some of us thatıs what we feel called to do‹to be right up there
> with them in the front lines, holding the magic, grounding the energy, not
> preaching about nonviolence but just trying to embody it.  Now  Heather and
> her flowers are here.
>     Lisa gets up, holding out her hands to the cops in a gesture of peace,
> and attempts to give them the Declaration.  I watch, holding my breath,
> ready to back her up if they attack.  "We canıt take it," one of them
> whispers to her through clenched teeth.  She lays it at his feet.  A young
> man comes forward, lays down a flower.  A woman follows with another.
> Somehow, in that moment, it becomes the perfect gesture.
>     Everyone relaxes.  After a time, we decide to make our exit.  The River
> must flow on.  Others move forward to take our place.  We snake back to the
> intersection.  Behind us, the young men of our cluster are helping to take
> down the fence along the cemetery.  We begin a spiral in the intersection:
> masses of people join in with us.  From a rooftop above, two of the local
> people shower us with confetti.  We dance in a jubilant snow.  The power
> rises, and as it does an absolute scream of rage tears out of my throat.
> Iım drumming and wailing and sending waves and waves of this energy back at
> the Congress Center, and at the same time we are dancing and confetti is
> swirling down while behind us the tear gas flies and the fence comes down.
>     When we stop, a woman comes up with news.  The only way to be heard in
> the din and thunder is for the cluster to repeat each sentence.  The news
> becomes a chant:
>     "Iıve just heard,"  "IıVE JUST HEARD!"
>     "That so much tear gas,"  "THAT SO MUCH TEAR GAS!"
>     "Has been blown back into the Congress Center,"  "HAS BEEN BLOWN BACK
> INTO THE CONGRESS CENTER!"
>     "Theyıve had to close down the meetings for two hours."  "THEY"VE HAD TO
> CLOSE DOWN THE MEETINGS FOR TWO HOURS!"
>     We erupt in cheers.
>
>
> In front of the gate on St. Jean Street, five young men and one woman stand,
> their backs to the massed groups of riot cops behind the barrier, their feet
> apart, one arm up in a peace sign, absolutely still in the midst of of
> chaos, unmasked, unprotected, in a cloud of tear gas so strong we are
> choking behind our bandannas.
> We file behind them, read the Cochabamba statement, and then flow on.  They
> remain, holding the space as their eyes tear, steadfast in their silence,
> their courage, and their power.
>
> When the Bay Bridge fell in the last San Francisco earthquake, we learned
> that structures resonate to a frequency.  A vibration that matches their
> internal rhythm can bring them down.
> Beneath the overpass, they are drumming on the rails.  The city is a drum.
> Massive structures tremble.
> And a fence is only as strong as its point of attachment to its base.
>
>
>
>

#3 From: Carla Lopez <carla@...>
Date: Thu May 3, 2001 11:03 pm
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