This is what my friend in Belfast said about the
Pres. His. Soc.:
I have been to the Presbyterian Historical Society library,
quite a long time ago, and I do remember looking at some old records of
Cullybackey Presbyterian Church, which I'm sure are not in PRONI. I will try
and make a visit to find out for you what records they have.
From:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Crooks Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009
7:28 PM To:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy]
Pres. Historical Society
Linda: No I understand that these parish records are ONLY at
Pres. Hist. Soc. in Belfast,
they do not do look ups. I have both their telephone number e mail address and
the name of the head librarian. It is necessay to try and get someone to go
into their library. Derek Torrens is going to try and call Mrs. Dickson the
librarian and try and get some detauils via phone, they are only open Tues
& Thur. for a few hours to the public. I have a distant cousin who is with
BBC, but she is too busy to try and get there during her working hours. What I
am trying to find out is what was my settlers wife maiden name and what year
were they married. I suspect she was a Moorehead, but am not sure. I also have
a strange Moorehead buried in our Convenanter plot in MossSpringsCemetery
in Greencastle, Pa.. I have several Moorehead connections ,
so all of this is driveing me crazy.
Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy]
Pres. Historical Society
Gordon,
I read with interst your reference to Galgorm estate. I recently found a
pension reocrd for a
Burnside which I believe is contected to my Burnsides saying he was living in
Galgorm Parks
in 1851. Would this be the same area as Galgorm estate and if so, what was it?
Is it possible to get copies of the church records from the Presbyterian
Historical Society?
Are they also at PRONI?
Linda
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Subject: RE: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
Hi Gordon,
I know someone in Belfast who is knee deep in genealogy. I will email him and ask him if it is possible there are records there that are not at PRONI. I suspect he will know.
Anne
From:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Holley Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:36 PM To:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
Gordon,
Do you think anyone on the Belfast Forum list would do a look up for you? It would be great if we could locate a member or two on this list that lives near Belfast who would do a few searches as Norman does on the NALIL list.
Better yet, maybe we will get a "secret reseacher" as they do on the Down Yahoo list who knocks down brickwalls on a regular basis.
Linda
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Anne: Not necessarily ! Some institutions hold on to and hog their records. I believe this was the case of the Rev. John Cuthbertson who left a dairy in the 1700's with tons of info in it. It ended up in the Pittsburgh Presbyterian Seminary and it wasn't until the 1920's that anyone was allowed to publish and edit it. In the case of PRONI I gather that they are not universally loved !!
Linda: No I understand that these parish records are ONLY at Pres. Hist. Soc. in Belfast, they do not do look ups. I have both their telephone number e mail address and the name of the head librarian. It is necessay to try and get someone to go into their library. Derek Torrens is going to try and call Mrs. Dickson the librarian and try and get some detauils via phone, they are only open Tues & Thur. for a few hours to the public. I have a distant cousin who is with BBC, but she is too busy to try and get there during her working hours. What I am trying to find out is what was my settlers wife maiden name and what year were they married. I suspect she was a Moorehead, but am not sure. I also have a strange Moorehead buried in our Convenanter plot in MossSpringsCemetery in Greencastle, Pa.. I have several Moorehead connections , so all of this is driveing me crazy.
Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
Gordon,
I read with interst your reference to Galgorm estate. I recently found a pension reocrd for a Burnside which I believe is contected to my Burnsides saying he was living in Galgorm Parks in 1851. Would this be the same area as Galgorm estate and if so, what was it?
Is it possible to get copies of the church records from the Presbyterian Historical Society? Are they also at PRONI?
Linda
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Hi to all on the list
This is my first posting and I am very excited that finally we have a
list devoted to Mid-Antrim.
I thought I'd introduce myself by advising of my areas of research:
Hugh McCambridge b.c1815 Ballymena, Co Antrim, died 15 Jan 1886 (yet
to find where in Co Antrim he is buried or obtain his actual death
details).
His wife was Mary O'HAGAN (parents Charles O'HAGAN and Rose
O'DORNAN/DORNAN/DORNEN of Ballymena.
Hugh and Mary married in 1841 in Ballymena. Mary emigrated to
Australia after Hugh's death and died here.
Regards
Cherylanne
Anne: Here is specifically what I am trying to find out. Years ago I was able by doing what I call a cluster search of the 1660-69 Hearth & Poll Tax Rolls for Co. Antrim. I was looking for family name of Crooks, Moorehead, Dunwoodie, McClure, McCrea, Beatty, Wallace, Ambrose, and Crunkleton - all Ulsterscots names. Several such as Dunwoodie & Moorehead are pretty rare. I found 5 Crooks families in Antrim and the one in Ahoghill, Glagorm Estate was a good match . The Crooks & Dunwoodies as an example go back to around 1041 a.m. in Paisley, Scotland. So I felt safe in assuming that this cluster of these familes were mine. Proof was it is believed (oral history) that most of them came on the same ship to Phila, secondly they all settled in Franklin Co.cheek to cheek and continued to inter -marry for several more generations.
This bring us to the records at Pres. Hist. Soc., it is said that they hold old parish records from a church within 2 miles of this area, so I am looking for birth, marriage & baptism records. John Crooks was born about 1709, his wife Alice (?) was born 1700, the QUESTION IS was she a Moorehead and also is there mention of a Ann Moorehead in any records which could be a sister (spinster ?)
Subject: RE: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
This is what my friend in Belfast said about the Pres. His. Soc.:
I have been to the Presbyterian Historical Society library, quite a long time ago, and I do remember looking at some old records of Cullybackey Presbyterian Church, which I'm sure are not in PRONI. I will try and make a visit to find out for you what records they have.
From:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Crooks Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:28 PM To:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
Linda: No I understand that these parish records are ONLY at Pres. Hist. Soc. in Belfast, they do not do look ups. I have both their telephone number e mail address and the name of the head librarian. It is necessay to try and get someone to go into their library. Derek Torrens is going to try and call Mrs. Dickson the librarian and try and get some detauils via phone, they are only open Tues & Thur. for a few hours to the public. I have a distant cousin who is with BBC, but she is too busy to try and get there during her working hours. What I am trying to find out is what was my settlers wife maiden name and what year were they married. I suspect she was a Moorehead, but am not sure. I also have a strange Moorehead buried in our Convenanter plot in MossSpringsCemetery in Greencastle, Pa.. I have several Moorehead connections , so all of this is driveing me crazy.
Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
Gordon,
I read with interst your reference to Galgorm estate. I recently found a pension reocrd for a Burnside which I believe is contected to my Burnsides saying he was living in Galgorm Parks in 1851. Would this be the same area as Galgorm estate and if so, what was it?
Is it possible to get copies of the church records from the Presbyterian Historical Society? Are they also at PRONI?
Linda
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We were going to firm up our plans yesterday but between adding new members and
painting the kitchen - nothing got done. I will tell Gladys you told me to
call. I think we
may go in June - we need to get our free tickets lined up. That's always the
problem - we
wait too late to get the dates we really want but can never complain about
traveling free.
Linda
--- In Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "Anne Shier Klintworth"
<ashierk@...>
wrote:
>
> Tell Gladys I told you to contact her. She is great! Hopefully she is not
> already booked for the time you plan to be there. We didn't the same one we
> have always gotten because we planned too late. When do you plan to go?
> You will love it there.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Holley
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:16 PM
> To: Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Cottage/Resturants
>
>
>
> Anne,
>
> Thank you for the suggestions about eating - it was so sad, I never got to a
> pub last
> summer. My friends wanted to cook every night to save money. I felf very
> deprived and felt
> even worse when I found that a William Burnside had owned a tavern in
> Ballymena in 1824.
> Just know he is connected to all my Burnsides in PA & OH who owed inns and
> taverns in
> several cities. I kept telling ever list I was on that no one leaves Antim
> and arrives in PA in
> 1817 and says "oh, I think I will buy a tavern in Pittsburgh even though I
> have never done
> that before". The day fond the 1824 Business Directory for Ballymena was a
> joyful day for
> me! I must post that link.
>
> I looked at the cottages - think I may choose one of those. It would be fun
> to be so close to
> the sea!
>
> Linda
>
I will ask him to inquire specifically
about records for Ahoghill. I am hoping he will just get a list of what is
there.
From:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Crooks Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:39
AM To:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy]
Pres. Historical Society
Anne: Here is specifically what I am trying to find out.
Years ago I was able by doing what I call a cluster search of the 1660-69
Hearth & Poll Tax Rolls for Co. Antrim. I was looking for family name of
Crooks, Moorehead, Dunwoodie, McClure, McCrea, Beatty, Wallace, Ambrose, and
Crunkleton - all Ulsterscots names. Several such as Dunwoodie & Moorehead
are pretty rare. I found 5 Crooks families in Antrim and the one in Ahoghill,
Glagorm Estate was a good match . The Crooks & Dunwoodies as an example go
back to around 1041 a.m. in Paisley,
Scotland. So I
felt safe in assuming that this cluster of these familes were mine. Proof was
it is believed (oral history) that most of them came on the same ship to Phila,
secondly they all settled in Franklin Co.cheek to cheek and continued to inter
-marry for several more generations.
This bring us to the records at Pres. Hist. Soc., it is said
that they hold old parish records from a church within 2 miles of this area, so
I am looking for birth, marriage & baptism records. John Crooks was born
about 1709, his wife Alice (?) was born 1700, the QUESTION IS was she a
Moorehead and also is there mention of a Ann Moorehead in any records which
could be a sister (spinster ?)
Subject: RE:
[Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
This is what my friend in Belfast said about the Pres. His.
Soc.:
I
have been to the Presbyterian Historical Society library, quite a long time
ago, and I do remember looking at some old records of Cullybackey Presbyterian
Church, which I'm sure are not in PRONI. I will try and make a visit to find
out for you what records they have.
From:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Gordon Crooks Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009
7:28 PM To:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy]
Pres. Historical Society
Linda: No I
understand that these parish records are ONLY at Pres. Hist. Soc. in Belfast, they
do not do look ups. I have both their telephone number e mail address and the
name of the head librarian. It is necessay to try and get someone to go into
their library. Derek Torrens is going to try and call Mrs. Dickson the
librarian and try and get some detauils via phone, they are only open Tues
& Thur. for a few hours to the public. I have a distant cousin who is with
BBC, but she is too busy to try and get there during her working hours. What I
am trying to find out is what was my settlers wife maiden name and what year
were they married. I suspect she was a Moorehead, but am not sure. I also have
a strange Moorehead buried in our Convenanter plot in MossSpringsCemetery in Greencastle, Pa.. I have several Moorehead
connections , so all of this is driveing me crazy.
Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
Gordon,
I read with interst your reference to Galgorm estate. I recently found a
pension reocrd for a
Burnside which I believe is contected to my Burnsides saying he was living in
Galgorm Parks
in 1851. Would this be the same area as Galgorm estate and if so, what was it?
Is it possible to get copies of the church records from the Presbyterian
Historical Society?
Are they also at PRONI?
Linda
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Anne: Here is specifically what I am trying to find out. Years ago I was able by doing what I call a cluster search of the 1660-69 Hearth & Poll Tax Rolls for Co. Antrim. I was looking for family name of Crooks, Moorehead, Dunwoodie, McClure, McCrea, Beatty, Wallace, Ambrose, and Crunkleton - all Ulsterscots names. Several such as Dunwoodie & Moorehead are pretty rare. I found 5 Crooks families in Antrim and the one in Ahoghill, Glagorm Estate was a good match . The Crooks & Dunwoodies as an example go back to around 1041 a.m. in Paisley, Scotland. So I felt safe in assuming that this cluster of these familes were mine. Proof was it is believed (oral history) that most of them came on the same ship to Phila, secondly they all settled in Franklin Co.cheek to cheek and continued to inter -marry for several more generations.
This bring us to the records at Pres. Hist. Soc., it is said that they hold old parish records from a church within 2 miles of this area, so I am looking for birth, marriage & baptism records. John Crooks was born about 1709, his wife Alice (?) was born 1700, the QUESTION IS was she a Moorehead and also is there mention of a Ann Moorehead in any records which could be a sister (spinster ?)
Subject: RE: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
This is what my friend in Belfast said about the Pres. His. Soc.:
I have been to the Presbyterian Historical Society library, quite a long time ago, and I do remember looking at some old records of Cullybackey Presbyterian Church, which I'm sure are not in PRONI. I will try and make a visit to find out for you what records they have.
From:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Crooks Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:28 PM To:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
Linda: No I understand that these parish records are ONLY at Pres. Hist. Soc. in Belfast, they do not do look ups. I have both their telephone number e mail address and the name of the head librarian. It is necessay to try and get someone to go into their library. Derek Torrens is going to try and call Mrs. Dickson the librarian and try and get some detauils via phone, they are only open Tues & Thur. for a few hours to the public. I have a distant cousin who is with BBC, but she is too busy to try and get there during her working hours. What I am trying to find out is what was my settlers wife maiden name and what year were they married. I suspect she was a Moorehead, but am not sure. I also have a strange Moorehead buried in our Convenanter plot in MossSpringsCemetery in Greencastle, Pa.. I have several Moorehead connections , so all of this is driveing me crazy.
Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
Gordon,
I read with interst your reference to Galgorm estate. I recently found a pension reocrd for a Burnside which I believe is contected to my Burnsides saying he was living in Galgorm Parks in 1851. Would this be the same area as Galgorm estate and if so, what was it?
Is it possible to get copies of the church records from the Presbyterian Historical Society? Are they also at PRONI?
Linda
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Hi Linda
The 1901 Census is being digitised like the 1911 Census. When it will
be available is another question. Probably in a couple of years.
--- In Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "Linda Holley"
<ljholley@...> wrote:
>
> Is anyone transcribing the 1901 census for our area? I am willing to
help.
>
> Linda
>
I meant a list of all the churches they
have records for in Co. Antrim.
From:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Crooks Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:31
AM To:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy]
Pres. Historical Society
Anne: From what I have been told, it just one church.
Anne: Here
is specifically what I am trying to find out. Years ago I was able by doing
what I call a cluster search of the 1660-69 Hearth & Poll Tax Rolls for Co.
Antrim. I was looking for family name of Crooks, Moorehead, Dunwoodie, McClure,
McCrea, Beatty, Wallace, Ambrose, and Crunkleton - all Ulsterscots names.
Several such as Dunwoodie & Moorehead are pretty rare. I found 5 Crooks
families in Antrim and the one in Ahoghill, Glagorm Estate was a good match .
The Crooks & Dunwoodies as an example go back to around 1041 a.m. in Paisley, Scotland. So I felt
safe in assuming that this cluster of these familes were mine. Proof was it is
believed (oral history) that most of them came on the same ship to Phila,
secondly they all settled in Franklin Co.cheek to cheek and continued to inter
-marry for several more generations.
This
bring us to the records at Pres. Hist. Soc., it is said that they hold old
parish records from a church within 2 miles of this area, so I am looking for
birth, marriage & baptism records. John Crooks was born about 1709, his
wife Alice (?) was born 1700, the QUESTION IS was she a Moorehead and also is
there mention of a Ann Moorehead in any records which could be a sister
(spinster ?)
Subject: RE: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical
Society
This is what my friend in Belfast said about
the Pres. His. Soc.:
I
have been to the Presbyterian Historical Society library, quite a long time
ago, and I do remember looking at some old records of Cullybackey Presbyterian
Church, which I'm sure are not in PRONI. I will try and make a visit to find
out for you what records they have.
From:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Gordon Crooks Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009
7:28 PM To:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy]
Pres. Historical Society
Linda: No I
understand that these parish records are ONLY at Pres. Hist. Soc. in Belfast,
they do not do look ups. I have both their telephone number e mail address and
the name of the head librarian. It is necessay to try and get someone to go
into their library. Derek Torrens is going to try and call Mrs. Dickson the
librarian and try and get some detauils via phone, they are only open Tues
& Thur. for a few hours to the public. I have a distant cousin who is with
BBC, but she is too busy to try and get there during her working hours. What I
am trying to find out is what was my settlers wife maiden name and what year
were they married. I suspect she was a Moorehead, but am not sure. I also have
a strange Moorehead buried in our Convenanter plot in MossSpringsCemetery in Greencastle, Pa.. I have several
Moorehead connections , so all of this is driveing me crazy.
Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
Gordon,
I read with interst your reference to Galgorm estate. I recently found a
pension reocrd for a
Burnside which I believe is contected to my Burnsides saying he was living in
Galgorm Parks
in 1851. Would this be the same area as Galgorm estate and if so, what was it?
Is it possible to get copies of the church records from the Presbyterian
Historical Society?
Are they also at PRONI?
Linda
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Goodness, weren't you lucky. I saw a few of those gravestones on The Braid site
and
mentioned to my husband some had a whole family tree. I can't wait until the
entire book
has been put online.
Some of my extended family lived in Galgorm Parks - have you done any research
about
this area? I know Gordon mentioned a Galgorm Estate and am wondering if the two
are
one in the same.
Linda
--- In Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, LynMhere@... wrote:
>
> Hello,
> What a great idea to start this new group. Thank you, Linda, for taking
> this on, on behalf of all of us.
> Perhaps some of you who know much more about researching in Co. Antrim,
> and NI in general can give me advice on where to look next. I was recently
> able to add more names to my family tree through the UHF marriage records,
and
> The Braid Gravestone inscriptions.
> I now know that my immigrant gg-grandmother,
>
> Elizabeth (Wallace) Magill b. 1820 Antrim Co., d. 1901 in Philadelphia,
> PA, m. William John Magill
> Cullybackey Presbyterian Church in 1846, was the
> daughter of
> Samuel Wallace and Isabella of Galgorm Parks. Isabella was born abt.
> 1790, d. 1846, Inscription in
> Old Churchyard, Ahoghill
>
> They also had
> Samuel, b. abt. 1826, Antrim Co., d. 1860 inscription in Old Churchyard,
> Ahoghill,
> m. Jane Smith in 1850 at Cullybackey Presbyterian Church
>
> Thomas, b. abt. 1829, Antrim Co., d. 1858, inscription in Old
> Churchyard, Ahoghill,
> m. Mary Irwin in 1846 in Ballymena, Kirkinrola.
>
> Where do I look next. Any help appreciated.
>
> My other Mid-Antrim interests are Hugh Magill b. 1803 lived Ahoghill
> and/or Galgorm Parks and wife
> Elizabeth (Rainey) Magill, b. 1807, children William John Magill b. 1825
> Antrim Co., D. 1907 Philadelphia, PA; and, David Magill, b. abt. 1827 in
> Antrim, d. 1917 Perry Co., IL. Both sons are listed in the Ballymena 1st
> Presbyterian Church records.
>
> Thanks,
> Lyn Magill-Hoch
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Anne: Here is specifically what I am trying to find out. Years ago I was able by doing what I call a cluster search of the 1660-69 Hearth & Poll Tax Rolls for Co. Antrim. I was looking for family name of Crooks, Moorehead, Dunwoodie, McClure, McCrea, Beatty, Wallace, Ambrose, and Crunkleton - all Ulsterscots names. Several such as Dunwoodie & Moorehead are pretty rare. I found 5 Crooks families in Antrim and the one in Ahoghill, Glagorm Estate was a good match . The Crooks & Dunwoodies as an example go back to around 1041 a.m. in Paisley, Scotland. So I felt safe in assuming that this cluster of these familes were mine. Proof was it is believed (oral history) that most of them came on the same ship to Phila, secondly they all settled in Franklin Co.cheek to cheek and continued to inter -marry for several more generations.
This bring us to the records at Pres. Hist. Soc., it is said that they hold old parish records from a church within 2 miles of this area, so I am looking for birth, marriage & baptism records. John Crooks was born about 1709, his wife Alice (?) was born 1700, the QUESTION IS was she a Moorehead and also is there mention of a Ann Moorehead in any records which could be a sister (spinster ?)
Subject: RE: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
This is what my friend in Belfast said about the Pres. His. Soc.:
I have been to the Presbyterian Historical Society library, quite a long time ago, and I do remember looking at some old records of Cullybackey Presbyterian Church, which I'm sure are not in PRONI. I will try and make a visit to find out for you what records they have.
From:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Crooks Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:28 PM To:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
Linda: No I understand that these parish records are ONLY at Pres. Hist. Soc. in Belfast, they do not do look ups. I have both their telephone number e mail address and the name of the head librarian. It is necessay to try and get someone to go into their library. Derek Torrens is going to try and call Mrs. Dickson the librarian and try and get some detauils via phone, they are only open Tues & Thur. for a few hours to the public. I have a distant cousin who is with BBC, but she is too busy to try and get there during her working hours. What I am trying to find out is what was my settlers wife maiden name and what year were they married. I suspect she was a Moorehead, but am not sure. I also have a strange Moorehead buried in our Convenanter plot in MossSpringsCemetery in Greencastle, Pa.. I have several Moorehead connections , so all of this is driveing me crazy.
Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Pres. Historical Society
Gordon,
I read with interst your reference to Galgorm estate. I recently found a pension reocrd for a Burnside which I believe is contected to my Burnsides saying he was living in Galgorm Parks in 1851. Would this be the same area as Galgorm estate and if so, what was it?
Is it possible to get copies of the church records from the Presbyterian Historical Society? Are they also at PRONI?
Linda
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There is someone on the Yahoo Down list that is transcribing for certain areas of Down and placing it on his website. Could we not do the same thing and not have to wait for 2011 to roll around?
Linda
On Mar 1, 2009, at 7:36 AM, jwaugh30 wrote:
Hi Linda
The 1901 Census is being digitised like the 1911 Census. When it will be available is another question. Probably in a couple of years.
--- InMid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "Linda Holley" <ljholley@...> wrote: > > Is anyone transcribing the 1901 census for our area? I am willing to help. > > Linda >
You can find a list of Presbyterian Churchs and the records held at the following link. http://www.presbyterianireland.org/about/records.html It indicated where the records are held PRONI or Pres. Historical Society (PHS). Do you know what church you are looking for in the Parish?
Thank you for that kind offer. I would appreciate any information you can find in Ancestry.com on the birth of Agnes ( Nancy) Eaton ca 1838 in County Antrim and the death of Fanny Greenwood on May 4th., 1903 in County Antrim.
Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Re: County Antrim BMD
Ray,
Yes, I can look up your name on Ancestry World. Just let me know what it is.
Linda
--- In Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "RAY JONES" <nantwich@...> wrote: > > Some time ago I recall accessing a web site which allowed searches of the > County Antrim BMD for various periods in the mid- to late 19th. century. Can > anyone help me locate the web site please? > Ray Jones, Ontario >
Could not find an Antrim BMD for the mid- to late 19th. century but I did take a look at the 1741 Protestant Householders Roll of Antrim County. My Greenwood family was resident in Connor ca 1840. Since I could not find any Greenwoods on your 1741 Roll, is it reasonable to assume that they had not yet arrived from Scotland where they originated?
Some time ago I recall accessing a web site which allowed searches of the County Antrim BMD for various periods in the mid- to late 19th. century. Can anyone help me locate the web site please? Ray Jones, Ontario
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Yes, Linda, I was very lucky - after so many years to stumble upon some answers.
It has been quite a while since I looked at Galgorm Parks and Galgorm Estate. If memory serves correctly, I don't think they are the same place, but near each other (don't quote me on that though). Some years back I looked into the Mid-Antim areas, but unfortunately the box that research was in was lost in a move.
Now that I'm back researching in this area, I will be doing a lot of reading and poking around to see what I can find and/or replace.
Lyn
In a message dated 3/1/2009 8:40:36 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, ljholley@... writes:
Goodness, weren't you lucky. I saw a few of those gravestones on The Braid site and mentioned to my husband some had a whole family tree. I can't wait until the entire book has been put online.
Some of my extended family lived in Galgorm Parks - have you done any research about this area? I know Gordon mentioned a Galgorm Estate and am wondering if the two are one in the same.
Linda
--- In Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, LynMhere@... wrote: > > Hello, > What a great idea to start this new group. Thank you, Linda, for taking > this on, on behalf of all of us. > Perhaps some of you who know much more about researching in Co. Antrim, > and NI in general can give me advice on where to look next. I was recently > able to add more names to my family tree through the UHF marriage records, and > The Braid Gravestone inscriptions. > I now know that my immigrant gg-grandmother, > > Elizabeth (Wallace) Magill b. 1820 Antrim Co., d. 1901 in Philadelphia, > PA, m. William John Magill > Cullybackey Presbyterian Church in 1846, was the > daughter of > Samuel Wallace and Isabella of Galgorm Parks. Isabella was born abt. > 1790, d. 1846, Inscription in > Old Churchyard, Ahoghill > > They also had > Samuel, b. abt. 1826, Antrim Co., d. 1860 inscription in Old Churchyard, > Ahoghill, > m. Jane Smith in 1850 at Cullybackey Presbyterian Church > > Thomas, b. abt. 1829, Antrim Co., d. 1858, inscription in Old > Churchyard, Ahoghill, > m. Mary Irwin in 1846 in Ballymena, Kirkinrola. > > Where do I look next. Any help appreciated. > > My other Mid-Antrim interests are Hugh Magill b. 1803 lived Ahoghill > and/or Galgorm Parks and wife > Elizabeth (Rainey) Magill, b. 1807, children William John Magill b. 1825 > Antrim Co., D. 1907 Philadelphia, PA; and, David Magill, b. abt. 1827 in > Antrim, d. 1917 Perry Co., IL. Both sons are listed in the Ballymena 1st > Presbyterian Church records. > > Thanks, > Lyn Magill-Hoch > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol? redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26h mpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) >
For years I thought I had lost ALL my genealogy files. Then, when I started working again last year - they reappeared while we were cleaning out a storage building. It was appalling to see how many mistakes I had made. In 1983 I didn't even seem to know where Co. Antrim was located.
Yes, Linda, I was very lucky - after so many years to stumble upon some answers.
It has been quite a while since I looked at Galgorm Parks and Galgorm Estate. If memory serves correctly, I don't think they are the same place, but near each other (don't quote me on that though). Some years back I looked into the Mid-Antim areas, but unfortunately the box that research was in was lost in a move.
Now that I'm back researching in this area, I will be doing a lot of reading and poking around to see what I can find and/or replace.
Lyn
In a message dated 3/1/2009 8:40:36 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, ljholley@gmail.com writes:
Goodness, weren't you lucky. I saw a few of those gravestones on The Braid site and mentioned to my husband some had a whole family tree. I can't wait until the entire book has been put online.
Some of my extended family lived in Galgorm Parks - have you done any research about this area? I know Gordon mentioned a Galgorm Estate and am wondering if the two are one in the same.
Linda
--- InMid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, LynMhere@... wrote: > > Hello, > What a great idea to start this new group. Thank you, Linda, for taking > this on, on behalf of all of us. > Perhaps some of you who know much more about researching in Co. Antrim, > and NI in general can give me advice on where to look next. I was recently > able to add more names to my family tree through the UHF marriage records, and > The Braid Gravestone inscriptions. > I now know that my immigrant gg-grandmother, > > Elizabeth (Wallace) Magill b. 1820 Antrim Co., d. 1901 in Philadelphia, > PA, m. William John Magill > Cullybackey Presbyterian Church in 1846, was the > daughter of > Samuel Wallace and Isabella of Galgorm Parks. Isabella was born abt. > 1790, d. 1846, Inscription in > Old Churchyard, Ahoghill > > They also had > Samuel, b. abt. 1826, Antrim Co., d. 1860 inscription in Old Churchyard, > Ahoghill, > m. Jane Smith in 1850 at Cullybackey Presbyterian Church > > Thomas, b. abt. 1829, Antrim Co., d. 1858, inscription in Old > Churchyard, Ahoghill, > m. Mary Irwin in 1846 in Ballymena, Kirkinrola. > > Where do I look next. Any help appreciated. > > My other Mid-Antrim interests are Hugh Magill b. 1803 lived Ahoghill > and/or Galgorm Parks and wife > Elizabeth (Rainey) Magill, b. 1807, children William John Magill b. 1825 > Antrim Co., D. 1907 Philadelphia, PA; and, David Magill, b. abt. 1827 in > Antrim, d. 1917 Perry Co., IL. Both sons are listed in the Ballymena 1st > Presbyterian Church records. > > Thanks, > Lyn Magill-Hoch > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol? redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26h mpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) >
I have been noticing the McMaster name cropping up in Ireland; when we have been told that McMaster was definitely from Scotland. So, perhaps the McMaster line is also from Wales. I am trying to keep info on McMaster clan until I have time to sort. If it is not too much bother, maybe you would be kind enough to check the McMaster line for me.
I am researching Mark people so if you run across a few of those....who knows, could belong to me too. LOL
Many of you will remember Rick Hutton who looked up so many records for us a
couple of
weeks ago. I asked and he has agreed that we may add our individual records to
our
group website.
I will create the record under FILES. Click there, then click Parish of
Ahoghill - 1766
Dissenters then CREATE TEXT FILES and add the names Rick sent you.
Know he won't mind my attaching his message on how to pronounce Ahoghill
Just thought that I would pass this along. Over the years, I have been
reprimanded by a
relative
in Co Antrim on how I pronounced Ahoghill.
It's not like.........there's a hog on the hill
It's like "a -HAW -ill" . Put a gag-reflex between the a - H and you've got
it.
It's "a- (gag relex)AW- ill .
By George, she's got it...............
Keep practicing
You'll need a paper towel to keep your monitor screen clean
Sincerely
Rick Hutton
Hi Kate
I'm researching McNeill's. Information I have is -
William McNEILL b. ca 1813 likely in Ballyreagh, Dunaghy; wife may be Mary.
McNeill children (gleaned from 1851 census):
John 1833, Agnes 1836, Rose 1838, Elizabeth 1840, Margaret 1842,
Alexander 1845, ELLEN JANE ca 1848.
Ellen Jane McNEILL b. ca 1848, married Thomas SCRIM(M)AGER on 31 July
1868 at Parish Church of Ireland, Craigs.
Hopefull we'll have a connection.
Cheers, Lynda in New Zealand
2009/3/2 Kathleen Connolly <kate.2019@...>:
>
> Anyone out there researching McMaster, Buckna or McNeill, Owencloughey? I
> would be interested in sharing any research.
> Kate
>
>
>
>
>
Dam I have been defeated by Rick, if I am to practice saying Ahoghill I will have to turn on my hearing aid which I seldom do when on this monster called a computer which incidently is a monster Optiplex 360 custom built which hopefully will never run out of space !
Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Rick's 1766 Religious Records
Many of you will remember Rick Hutton who looked up so many records for us a couple of weeks ago. I asked and he has agreed that we may add our individual records to our group website.
I will create the record under FILES. Click there, then click Parish of Ahoghill - 1766 Dissenters then CREATE TEXT FILES and add the names Rick sent you.
Know he won't mind my attaching his message on how to pronounce Ahoghill
Just thought that I would pass this along. Over the years, I have been reprimanded by a relative in Co Antrim on how I pronounced Ahoghill.
It's not like.........there's a hog on the hill
It's like "a -HAW -ill" . Put a gag-reflex between the a - H and you've got it. It's "a- (gag relex)AW- ill .
By George, she's got it...............
Keep practicing You'll need a paper towel to keep your monitor screen clean
Sincerely Rick Hutton
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When I was in Ballymena last summer I asked someone about A -hog - on - the - hill. They actually didn't know what I meant until I spelled it.
On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Gordon Crooks wrote:
Dam I have been defeated by Rick, if I am to practice saying Ahoghill I will have to turn on my hearing aid which I seldom do when on this monster called a computer which incidently is a monster Optiplex 360 custom built which hopefully will never run out of space !
Subject:[Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Rick's 1766 Religious Records
Many of you will remember Rick Hutton who looked up so many records for us a couple of weeks ago. I asked and he has agreed that we may add our individual records to our group website.
I will create the record under FILES. Click there, then click Parish of Ahoghill - 1766 Dissenters then CREATE TEXT FILES and add the names Rick sent you.
Know he won't mind my attaching his message on how to pronounce Ahoghill
Just thought that I would pass this along. Over the years, I have been reprimanded by a relative in Co Antrim on how I pronounced Ahoghill.
It's not like.........there's a hog on the hill
It's like "a -HAW -ill" . Put a gag-reflex between the a - H and you've got it. It's "a- (gag relex)AW- ill .
By George, she's got it...............
Keep practicing You'll need a paper towel to keep your monitor screen clean
Sincerely Rick Hutton
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Joyce: I have one listing for McMaster which might be one of yours, James McMaster was a member of the West Conocoheague Associate Reformed Church known as Slate Hill or the The Corner. This church is long gone but it served the people of Welshes Run who were from Wales originally. The cemetery is mostly under the plow, but one of mine is buried there and so are a lot of S.A.R. veterans. It is located in Franklin Co., Pa.
I have been noticing the McMaster name cropping up in Ireland; when we have been told that McMaster was definitely from Scotland. So, perhaps the McMaster line is also from Wales. I am trying to keep info on McMaster clan until I have time to sort. If it is not too much bother, maybe you would be kind enough to check the McMaster line for me.
I am researching Mark people so if you run across a few of those....who knows, could belong to me too. LOL
Thank you Kate!
Joyce
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Ray: Like all tax lists they are never 100% accurate. I remember reading some years ago about what people did in 1660-69 to avoid being in the Hearth & Poll Tax Rolls for Co. Antrim. The estimate for that roll was 85-90 percent accurate. I would assume the 1741 Protestant Householders list was about the same accuracy. So it it difficult to give you a answer, however the Plantation period as such was from about 1590-1650 and the bulk of the migration was within that period of time. However the Scots and the Scots-Irish were back and forth all the time, its a short boat ride from one to the other.. I would suggest if you are trying to pinpoint a closer date that you take a look at the church reciorrds for Connor for the 1800's there are records and maybe you can locate them.
Subject: Re: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] County Antrim BMD
Gordon,
Could not find an Antrim BMD for the mid- to late 19th. century but I did take a look at the 1741 Protestant Householders Roll of Antrim County. My Greenwood family was resident in Connor ca 1840. Since I could not find any Greenwoods on your 1741 Roll, is it reasonable to assume that they had not yet arrived from Scotland where they originated?
Some time ago I recall accessing a web site which allowed searches of the County Antrim BMD for various periods in the mid- to late 19th. century. Can anyone help me locate the web site please? Ray Jones, Ontario
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I wonder if you all know there is an
ex-pats section on the Ballymena Times page where you can post queries. www.Ballymenatimes.com
Scroll about halfway down the front page
and you will see ex-pats.
Anne
From:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynda's Lot Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 2:45
PM To:Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy]
Fw: McMaster/McNeill
Hi Kate
I'm researching McNeill's. Information I have is -
William McNEILL b. ca 1813 likely in Ballyreagh, Dunaghy; wife may be Mary.
McNeill children (gleaned from 1851 census):
John 1833, Agnes 1836, Rose 1838, Elizabeth 1840, Margaret 1842,
Alexander 1845, ELLEN JANE ca 1848.
Ellen Jane McNEILL b. ca 1848, married Thomas SCRIM(M)AGER on 31 July
1868 at ParishChurch
of Ireland,
Craigs.
Hopefull we'll have a connection.
Cheers, Lynda in New Zealand
2009/3/2 Kathleen Connolly <kate.2019@yahoo.com>:
>
> Anyone out there researching McMaster, Buckna or McNeill, Owencloughey? I
> would be interested in sharing any research.
> Kate
>
>
>
>
>
I'm researching McNeill's. Information I have is -
William McNEILL b. ca 1813 likely in Ballyreagh, Dunaghy; wife may be Mary.
McNeill children (gleaned from 1851 census): John 1833, Agnes 1836, Rose 1838, Elizabeth 1840, Margaret 1842, Alexander 1845, ELLEN JANE ca 1848.
Ellen Jane McNEILL b. ca 1848, married Thomas SCRIM(M)AGER on 31 July 1868 atParishChurchofIreland, Craigs.
Hopefull we'll have a connection.
Cheers, Lynda inNew Zealand
2009/3/2 Kathleen Connolly <kate.2019@yahoo.com>: > > Anyone out there researching McMaster, Buckna or McNeill, Owencloughey? I > would be interested in sharing any research. > Kate > > > > >
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