Hope this isn't too off topic, but are there any Grand Rapids area ham
clubs/groups having a breakfast meetup Saturday (1/5) and who wouldn't mind a
visitor from "downstate"? I'll be in Cascade this weekend dogsitting (and
playing with a new doppler).
Probably best to reply off group to my email, my-call at ameritech dotnet.
-73,
Gary N8NTC
--- In MichiganFoxHunter@yahoogroups.com, K8TB wrote:
>
> We wish to welcome Gary, N8NTC from Walled Lake, Michigan to the group.
>
> Gary, this email list is supposed to be for all Fox Hunting activity in
> Michigan. Kinda tough to get some of the clubs to talk about it though.
>
> There are at least 2 groups in the Detroit area that have Fox Hunts:
>
> The Monroe County radio communications Assoc:
>
> http://nic-nac-project.org/~bcspro/
>
>
> The Motor City radio Club:
>
> http://motorcityradioclub.roundtablelive.org/
>
> Or you could drive over to West Michigan and really be challenged!.
>
> When you have time, please send the group an email and tel us about
> yourself.
>
> And Welcome,
>
> Tom Bosscher K8TB
>
> just outside Grand Rapids
>
Icom IC-T90A Triband HT 6m, 2m & 70cm w/BC-110AR charger, external spkr/mic, like new in the original box, and tested OK.......asking $190.00 - New $319.00
Bencher BY-1 Iambic Paddle, Black base, Chrome components...........asking $85.00 - New $130.oo
Mirage B2516-G 2m amp; 5 to 35 watts in, 160 watts out + preamp, fully tested OK............asking $110.00 - New $329.00
Heathkit HD-1410 Electronic keyer, tested OK...................................................asking $15.00 - New in kit form $50.00
The thirteenth annual USA ARDF Championships will take place on the second week
and weekend of October 2013 in the Birkhead Mountain Wilderness near Asheboro,
North Carolina. This year's USA Championships are being combined with the
Seventh ARDF Championships of International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) Region 2
(North and South America). The competitive courses will be open to anyone of
any age, with or without an Amateur Radio license.
The training sessions, sprints and foxoring will be October 9 - 11, followed by
full-course 2m and 80m competitions on the weekend of October 12 - 13, followed
by awards ceremonies.
Organizing these championships are Joseph Huberman K5JGH, the Event Director,
and Ruth Bromer WB4QZG, the Registrar. Setting the courses will be Nadia
Scharlau with radio support by Charles Scharlau NZ0I. Sponsoring organization
is the Backwoods Orienteering Klub.
Registration is now open. Latest event information, directions, rules and
detailed schedule are in the official 2013 USA/R2 ARDF Championships Web site
(www.ardf.us). Transmitter parameters and suggestions for nearby lodging and
dining will be added soon. More information about ARDF in the USA is in the
Homing In Web site (www.homingin.com).
Joe Moell K0OV
USA ARDF Coordinator
Hi!
Just joined following a great presentation at the Kalamazoo ARC last
evening.
I have an offset attenuator (Stan Briggs design) and HT but not a suitable
antenna.
There is some fox hunting in Jackson..I checked the "Members" but didn't
recognize any Jackson hams.
BTW, how do I change / add info to me in the members list for age, call,
location, etc? I clicked "Edit Membership" but didn't find anything obvious to
me. Is it my Yahoo profile??
I'm retired from WKZO / WWMT in Kalamazoo, now living in northern Jackson
county.
73!
Sorry I cannot answer the question, but WELCOME !
We might be having a hunt over here in ... maybe April.
--------------- James -K8JHR ------------------------
On 3/22/2013 5:10 PM, jimkeesl wrote:
> Hi!
> Just joined following a great presentation at the Kalamazoo ARC last
evening.
>
> I have an offset attenuator (Stan Briggs design) and HT but not a
suitable antenna.
>
> There is some fox hunting in Jackson..I checked the "Members" but didn't
recognize any Jackson hams.
>
> BTW, how do I change / add info to me in the members list for age, call,
location, etc? I clicked "Edit Membership" but didn't find anything obvious to
me. Is it my Yahoo profile??
>
> I'm retired from WKZO / WWMT in Kalamazoo, now living in northern
Jackson county.
Hello Jim and welcome the
MichiganFoxHunter Yahoo group.
Tom and I really enjoyed talking to your club Thursday night.
As far as fox hunting antennas, I would suggest making your own
out of PCV pipe and the tape from a cheap tape measure. You can
find the plans on the www.michiganfoxhunter.com site or just
Google "tape measure antenna plans". The next step up would
probably be the 3-element yagi for fox hunting from
http://www.arrowantenna.com. You probably wouldn't want the 5-element
ArrowAntenna because it is a little heavy for hand-held
operation.
Your question on profile, there are two profiles. One is under
edit membership on our page. (email, email address, frequency if
emails, etc. Several guys worm their call into their Yahoo
username. The other profile is at yahoo.com where you maintain
your Yahoo account. (and your can have multiple accounts.)
Hope that helps and again welcome to the Yahoo group
Mike Hill, W8DER
On 3/22/2013 5:10 PM, jimkeesl wrote:
Hi!
Just joined following a great presentation at the
Kalamazoo ARC last evening.
I have an offset attenuator (Stan Briggs design) and HT
but not a suitable antenna.
There is some fox hunting in Jackson..I checked the
"Members" but didn't recognize any Jackson hams.
BTW, how do I change / add info to me in the members list
for age, call, location, etc? I clicked "Edit Membership"
but didn't find anything obvious to me. Is it my Yahoo
profile??
I'm retired from WKZO / WWMT in Kalamazoo, now living in
northern Jackson county.
Thanks for thinking of our safety, but the harnesses that are covered in
the brochure are not meant for tower climbing.They are designed for fall protection at construction sites.I have spent many hours wearing them (and
cursing at them because they are a royal PITA to try to work in….but are proven
life savers)
Below is a pic of a true tower harness.Note the D ring is in the front, not the back.Also note the extra side rings.
It’s pretty much the same for any harness though, if it looks bad, it is
bad.
A HUGE safety concern is the straight out determination of the integrity
of the tower.Who here is really
qualified (as in training and experience) to determine if a tower is safe to
climb or not?Tube type towers tend to
rust from the inside.They may look
fine on the outside, but can crumble under the added weight of a climber, and
when that happens, harnesses aren’t much good.
My advice, coming from many years of both construction work and ham
radio operations, is simply don’t climb towers.I don’t know of a single privately owned ham tower too tall to
use a man lift on.I have been on them
that were rated for 135 feet.Sure,
they are expensive buggers, but what is a life worth?Remember, the right equipment to climb the tower isn’t cheap,
either.The harness above is about
$500.Then you need the other stuff
that goes with it, and if you use it a few times, it will likely not pass the
stringent inspections for safety applied to climbing harnesses and you will
have to get a new one.You still have
to wear a harness in the man lift, but they are the type in the brochure.They may also be available for rent at the
place the man lift is rented from.Lucky me, I have access to a couple bucket trucks and am in good favor with
their owners.There will be no climbing
of towers at this QTH.
Thanks Tom, for your concern, but the flyer you sent really is not
applicable to climbing harnesses.Tom
is right on the money with the root of his concern, though, as tower accidents
are probably the #1 cause of fatality amongst our likes.Besides falls, contact with electrical lines
are a potentially fatal hazard.I hear
about those from two fronts.Besides
being a ham, I am a licensed electrician.I also have OHSA 10 and OSHA 30 training.Those graphically show the results of falls and electrocutions.So I am a bit more exposed to the risks and
results associated with the reward of saving a few bucks.
Stay safe, all
73
Mark K8MHZ
-----Original
Message----- From: MichiganFoxHunter@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:MichiganFoxHunter@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Tom KD8DEG Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013
5:06 PM To: WMSAT@yahoogroups.com;
WestMichiganHams@yahoogroups.com; W8USA@yahoogroups.com; MichiganFoxHunter
yahoogroup; kalamazoohamradio@yahoogroups.com; k8daa@yahoogroups.com;
HollandARCyahoogroups; GRARA@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MichiganFoxHunter] For
all the tower climbers out there, safety first
Thanks for
thinking of our safety, but the harnesses that are covered in the brochure are
not meant for tower climbing. They are designed for fall protection at
construction sites. I have spent many hours wearing them (and cursing at
them because they are a royal PITA to try to work in….but are proven life
savers)
Below is a pic of
a true tower harness. Note the D ring is in the front, not the
back. Also note the extra side rings.
It’s pretty much
the same for any harness though, if it looks bad, it is bad.
A HUGE safety
concern is the straight out determination of the integrity of the tower.
Who here is really qualified (as in training and experience) to determine if a
tower is safe to climb or not? Tube type towers tend to rust from
the inside. They may look fine on the outside, but can crumble under the
added weight of a climber, and when that happens, harnesses aren’t much good.
My advice, coming
from many years of both construction work and ham radio operations, is simply
don’t climb towers. I don’t know of a single privately owned ham tower
too tall to use a man lift on. I have been on them that were rated for
135 feet. Sure, they are expensive buggers, but what is a life
worth? Remember, the right equipment to climb the tower isn’t cheap,
either. The harness above is about $500. Then you need the other
stuff that goes with it, and if you use it a few times, it will likely not pass
the stringent inspections for safety applied to climbing harnesses and you will
have to get a new one. You still have to wear a harness in the man lift,
but they are the type in the brochure. They may also be available for
rent at the place the man lift is rented from. Lucky me, I have access to
a couple bucket trucks and am in good favor with their owners. There will
be no climbing of towers at this QTH.
Thanks Tom, for
your concern, but the flyer you sent really is not applicable to climbing
harnesses. Tom is right on the money with the root of his concern,
though, as tower accidents are probably the #1 cause of fatality amongst our
likes. Besides falls, contact with electrical lines are a potentially
fatal hazard. I hear about those from two fronts. Besides being a
ham, I am a licensed electrician. I also have OHSA 10 and OSHA 30
training. Those graphically show the results of falls and
electrocutions. So I am a bit more exposed to the risks and results
associated with the reward of saving a few bucks.
I assume that HARC still has the DBI Sala harness I donated. I had
bought it on eBay when I was planning to buy a tower I would need to
climb, but I subsequently decided on a tilt-over crank-up.
73
Alan NV8A
On 04/14/13 09:57 am, Mark wrote:
> Thanks for thinking of our safety, but the harnesses that are covered in the
> brochure are not meant for tower climbing. They are designed for fall
> protection at construction sites. I have spent many hours wearing them (and
> cursing at them because they are a royal PITA to try to work in….but are
> proven life savers)
>
> Below is a pic of a true tower harness. Note the D ring is in the front,
> not the back. Also note the extra side rings.
>
>
> Tower Climbing Harness Removable Seat 1113193
> http://www.towerclimbing.com/
>
> It’s pretty much the same for any harness though, if it looks bad, it is
> bad.
>
> A HUGE safety concern is the straight out determination of the integrity of
> the tower. Who here is really qualified (as in training and experience) to
> determine if a tower is safe to climb or not? Tube type towers tend to
> rust from the inside. They may look fine on the outside, but can crumble
> under the added weight of a climber, and when that happens, harnesses aren’t
> much good.
>
> My advice, coming from many years of both construction work and ham radio
> operations, is simply don’t climb towers. I don’t know of a single
> privately owned ham tower too tall to use a man lift on. I have been on
> them that were rated for 135 feet. Sure, they are expensive buggers, but
> what is a life worth? Remember, the right equipment to climb the tower isn’
> t cheap, either. The harness above is about $500. Then you need the other
> stuff that goes with it, and if you use it a few times, it will likely not
> pass the stringent inspections for safety applied to climbing harnesses and
> you will have to get a new one. You still have to wear a harness in the man
> lift, but they are the type in the brochure. They may also be available for
> rent at the place the man lift is rented from. Lucky me, I have access to a
> couple bucket trucks and am in good favor with their owners. There will be
> no climbing of towers at this QTH.
>
> Thanks Tom, for your concern, but the flyer you sent really is not
> applicable to climbing harnesses. Tom is right on the money with the root
> of his concern, though, as tower accidents are probably the #1 cause of
> fatality amongst our likes. Besides falls, contact with electrical lines
> are a potentially fatal hazard. I hear about those from two fronts.
> Besides being a ham, I am a licensed electrician. I also have OHSA 10 and
> OSHA 30 training. Those graphically show the results of falls and
> electrocutions. So I am a bit more exposed to the risks and results
> associated with the reward of saving a few bucks.
>
> Stay safe, all
>
> 73
>
> Mark K8MHZ
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MichiganFoxHunter@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:MichiganFoxHunter@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Tom KD8DEG
> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:06 PM
> To: WMSAT@yahoogroups.com; WestMichiganHams@yahoogroups.com;
> W8USA@yahoogroups.com; MichiganFoxHunter yahoogroup;
> kalamazoohamradio@yahoogroups.com; k8daa@yahoogroups.com;
> HollandARCyahoogroups; GRARA@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MichiganFoxHunter] For all the tower climbers out there, safety
> first
>
>
>
>
>
Reserve the date June 8th!
The Lowell Amateur Radio Club will be putting on a public fox hunt open to all
hams.
This will be a beginners level hunt with an initial mobile hunt and then a foot
hunt.
Initial transmitter will be within 5 miles and foot transmitter within
reasonable hiking distance.
I'm looking for a hunt box to borrow for the foot part if someone is willing to
loan me one or I will build one.
Further info to follow,
Mike Wolthuis - the "fox" this time!
KB8ZGL
LARC Treasurer
Is anybody aware of a current automotive style GPS that will show the numerical
bearing (not just the N-E-W-S arrows) to a stored waypoint (like the ancient but
great Garmin Streetpilot III)? It makes confirming/calibrating DF bearings (to a
known location) a whole lot easier.
Thanks & 73,
Gary
Gary, If you hear of a auto aircraft type display, please let us
know here on MichiganFoxHunter.com.
However, my hand-held Garmin etrex venture HC works great as long
as I am moving to get a calculated bearing. The coarse is also
displayed. They have a neat aircraft instrument-type display. It
is really intended for hikers, but works great in the car for fox
hunts.
Another variation if you are looking just a plotted display is the
GoogleHunt program.
(ref:http://www.silcom.com/~pelican2/PicoDopp/PICODOPP.htm#GH)
With an external GPS receiver, it will display your position on a
laptop using Google Earth and the GoogleHunt control screen. If
you select a bearing and press the button, it plots a bearing on
the Google Map. No internet connection in the car? No problem,
the program will work of stored map information. (Only use the
free stuff from the reference above.)
Please let us know what you find
On 5/15/2013 9:53 AM, n8ntc wrote:
Is anybody aware of a current automotive style GPS that
will show the numerical bearing (not just the N-E-W-S
arrows) to a stored waypoint (like the ancient but great
Garmin Streetpilot III)? It makes confirming/calibrating
DF bearings (to a known location) a whole lot easier.
--- In MichiganFoxHunter@yahoogroups.com, david dewinter <n8nbu@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
> We have change our phone #'s are new #'s are. Lynns 616 710-7262 and Daves
> is 616 710-7261. We are canceling our home phone and going just with cell
> phones. We have unlinited Phone (local + long distance) and unlimited textng,
> internet, data, pic's, etc so bring it on we are ready. lol
> DeWinter's Camper Rentals LLC
> > Dave & Lynn DeWinter
> > (616) 710-7261
> > n8nbu@...
> > (º¿º)
>