even the humble sprit rig can be improved.Just look at Ray aldridge's Slidercat rig,,, http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/09/designs/slider/index.htm  "There...
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PolySail_Dave
polysail
Mar 17, 2013 5:11 pm
Nels, I've built similar types of shoulder o' mutton sails with sprit booms similar to the mizzen Peter Lord shows in his photos. If I'm not cutting too much...
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sharpie3444
Mar 17, 2013 8:40 pm
Dave sprit-sloop rig !! A bit of the mainsail ahead of the mast to replace the jib. Balanced boom with a sprit . That might tack a small boat like Jim s...
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John Kohnen
jhkohnen
Mar 17, 2013 11:44 pm
Reaching, usually. Sometimes close-hauled, but not tacking against them upwind. Just casual encounters on the lake. I was especially surprised at how well Sage...
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John Boy
t1ro2003
Mar 18, 2013 12:08 am
Gene, I think you've been hacked! John Boy  I have a blog!  http://toon2sailor.blogspot.com/ “Seaward ho! Hang the treasure! It's the glory of the sea...
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CHARLES
chuckpierce...
Mar 18, 2013 12:27 pm
Sorry to be so late getting back to this-I have spent the last 3 days on a PDR with no Internet... First, I apologize for the tracking angle/tacking angle...
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CHARLES
chuckpierce...
Mar 18, 2013 12:57 pm
That's a good summation. But there is something that I would point out as relates to doing long trips in this boat as opposed to daysailing or racing around...
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Joseph Stromski
joe_strom2000
Mar 18, 2013 1:04 pm
No offense meant towards the designer of Dianne's Rose (on Duckworks this morning), but it seems Jim's already been there, done that with Shanteuse. Extend the...
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Anders Bjorklund
andersbjorkl...
Mar 18, 2013 1:18 pm
That's great, Chuck. Sounds like a very fine little boat. I'm impressed. Cheers, Anders ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Anders Bjorklund
andersbjorkl...
Mar 18, 2013 1:31 pm
Yeah, long stretches at the helm while not racing call for some trade-offs in performance. When trying to make ground to windward then, I drop the traveler and...
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CHARLES
chuckpierce...
Mar 18, 2013 1:55 pm
And um, that should be external chine LOGS :)...
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jhargrovewright2@...
jhargrovewri...
Mar 18, 2013 4:36 pm
One thing that I learned as a child is that in very shallow water a hard chine or a shallow keel can work as well a a leeboard/centerboard. That chine uses...
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CHARLES
chuckpierce...
Mar 18, 2013 4:37 pm
That's an interesting thing to look at. It took 2 and a half hours to get up the 6 mile channel in 39 tacks. Seems like that would be a bit under 2 and a half...
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jhargrovewright2@...
jhargrovewri...
Mar 18, 2013 4:46 pm
Anything Chuck Pierce says.... I believe. JIB ... From: "CHARLES" <chuckpierce@...> To: Michalak@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Michalak] Re: Back In The...
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Anders Bjorklund
andersbjorkl...
Mar 18, 2013 4:52 pm
VMG to windward is your speed over the ground multiplied by the cosine of the angle between the true wind and your track (over the ground). Anders ... ...
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Carl Volkwein
carlvolkwein
Mar 18, 2013 5:11 pm
Dear Tim, is Viola 22 still a prototype? ________________________________ From: Anders Bjorklund <andersbjorklund5@...> To: Michalak@yahoogroups.com ...
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CHARLES
chuckpierce...
Mar 18, 2013 5:15 pm
So how would you turn that around to be used to calculate track speed (as opposed to windward speed) over the ground from the angle off the off the wind and...
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billnolen66
Mar 18, 2013 6:11 pm
Me too! Bill Nolen OKC In a message dated 3/18/2013 11:46:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jhargrovewright2@... writes: Anything Chuck Pierce says.... I...
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prairiedog2332
Mar 18, 2013 7:02 pm
Looking at the Storer GIS only, it seems to me that getting one of those sails is not that cheap. http://www.duckworksbbs.com/sails/storer/gis/index.htm If you...
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Mike Allison
mysloop
Mar 18, 2013 7:37 pm
... You can get a pre cut sail kit from SailRit if you can sew. ...
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Anders Bjorklund
andersbjorkl...
Mar 18, 2013 8:03 pm
If we let "A" = the angle between your track over the ground and the true wind, "VMG" = your velocity made good to windward, and "V" your velocity over the...
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prairiedog2332
Mar 18, 2013 8:13 pm
Ross Lillistone speaks very highly of this rig - based on what Bolger writes about it - and has it as an option on his Phoenix III ...
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tom s
tdsoren
Mar 18, 2013 8:44 pm
Anders, I think you got it all right except for one detail. I believe you need to use the sin of the angle. the exception to this would be tacking through 90...
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daniel brown
dannyb9
Mar 18, 2013 9:08 pm
o puleez do we need this, he created a beautiful design. To: Michalak@yahoogroups.com From: j.stromski@... Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:04:25 -0700 ...
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Anders Bjorklund
andersbjorkl...
Mar 18, 2013 9:30 pm
Tom, I wonder if we are thinking about the same angle. For illustration purposes, let's say you're somehow able to "sail" your boat (actually motoring) just 10...
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prairiedog2332
Mar 18, 2013 11:21 pm
Daniel, Nothing wrong with stating an observation or opinion - which I observe you have done as well:-) Comparing other designs to Jim's? We do a lot of that...
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prairiedog2332
Mar 19, 2013 12:05 am
Some of this stuff makes my head hurt;-) I would offer that most of us here can be divided into two broad categories. The first group and maybe the broadest...
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Tom
tdsoren
Mar 19, 2013 12:28 am
Anders, You're absolutely correct. i was visualizing the included angle from a line through the beam and the bearing. thats what i get for doing trig on an...
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Curran Bishop
curranb79
Mar 19, 2013 4:50 am
Thanks for the info. Another question: the outboard I bought used came with a few unused impellers; that isn't to say new, but never installed or used... they...
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TomH
cruising.sailor
Mar 19, 2013 8:26 am
John T, Didn't mean to imply I though you were arguing at all. Quite the contrary. Discussing is fine. The range of knowledge/experience on these forums is...
