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#7199 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:41 pm
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As part of its reorganization and streamlining, SeaKeepers headquarters have moved!  As explained in the latest SeaKeepers Report, the board of directors recently approved to extend a commercial license to YSI to develop markets for the SeaKeeper 1000™ system. As a result, the engineering department and calibration laboratory have moved to St. Petersburg, Florida and admin has gone virtual! Our new mailing address is 757 SE 17th Street, #514, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316 USA.
  
  Unknown Molecule Discovered in the Oceans: A Killer with an Upside  
   
A chemical culprit responsible for the rapid, mysterious death of phytoplankton in the North Atlantic Ocean has been found by collaborating scientists at Rutgers University and the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI).  This same chemical may hold unexpected promise in cancer research. The team discovered a previously unknown lipid, or fatty compound, in a virus that has been attacking and killing Emiliania huxleyi, a phytoplankton that plays a major role in the global carbon cycle. “The lipids are the key ingredient in the virus that causes the phytoplankton to die,” says WHOI scientist Benjamin Van Mooy. “We have a completely different lipid molecule that, as far as we know, is unknown to science.”
  
  WSJ Notes More Ocean Data Needed to Understand Climate Change  
   
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Chef Peter Ziegelmeier and Mate Brendan Roney from M/Y RENA are an example of true SeaKeepers Professionals. Coming through the Lake Worth Inlet in Florida, they came across a “behemoth” log floating in the waterway.  Upon facing the obstruction in the water, Peter explained the influence of SeaKeepers Professionals, “We thought, ‘let’s do the right thing.’ As SeaKeepers, we care and did our small part.” After a couple attempts, they secured it aboard the small motor platform in the back and carried it out of the way, possibly saving a life, preventing, capsized boat, or a fuel/oil spill into the waters.  “We both thought, as members of SeaKeepers, that we did the right thing,” added Peter. He also aptly stated, “Saving our oceans starts with one person at a time.”
 
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#7198 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:11 pm
Subject: Check out 1988 Nonsuch Ultra by Hinterhoeller Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtw 		catalina30ruby
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Hello,
 
 The link below is to a sailboat that use to belong to a friend and WYC member.
 
This boat sold about 3 years ago for around $80k. The current asking price, $49k, tells me it can go for $45k or maybe even $40k or less.  It is my understanding that this beauty is still in top shape and its price is just reflective of the market or some eagerness (economy) of the current owner.  Don't let the 30 ft LOA concern you, this is a very spacious boat and a well made vessel and a steel even at the asking price.
 

 
Hi Bill
 
Hey here is your chance, I can't believe the guy has brought the price of our old boat Grace down to 49 K!!!!  Yikes, no wonder I cant sell the current Grace.
 
 
 
 
 
 


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#7197 From: Barry Needalman <b.needalman@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:46 pm
Subject: Re: Annopolis Boat Show in October 		bneedalm
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Beth Leonard's talk on cruising finances was good enough to convince me to buy her book.
Don Street's hints on cruising the Caribbean was also very interesting.
Both talks were to overflow crowds.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:44 PM, querencia <querencia@...> wrote:

A group of us [ 8 sailors ] attended The Annapolis Boat Show and one of the seminars that we

Attended was about cruising to Cuba, it was a great seminar, but they had only projected a small

Crowd and we had a very small room that we crammed hundreds of people into the seminar and probably

25 % of the attendees stood and another 35 % sat on the floor and the rest of us had seats, Wally Moran

who gave the seminar also had it written up in the November Issue of Sail Magazine .

Ed Pinanski

" Querencia "

1986 Pearson P33-2 # 37

Beverly,MA [ On the North Shore ]

-----Original Message-----
From: MassBaySailors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MassBaySailors@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of RobinC
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 2:23 PM
To: MassBaySailors@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MassBaySailors] Annopolis Boat Show in October

Did you attend any of the seminars at the boat show?

I'm working on a project for March and looking for feedback on what you liked or disliked about the seminar(s).

Thanks,

Robin



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#7196 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:51 pm
Subject: NYE Concert at the winthrop yacht club 		catalina30ruby
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Folks,
 
Again, if you would like tickets or even your own table, contact me!
 


 
Bill Scanlon Sr.
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USCG Captain
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Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse


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Subject: [win-yc] Concert at the winthrop yacht club
To: "Winthrop E Group Group" <win-yc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 12:06 PM

 


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#7195 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:17 pm
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving to you All! 		catalina30ruby
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Hello,
 
Happy Thanksgiving to you All!
 
Eat well. take a nap!

Bill Scanlon Sr.
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Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse


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#7194 From: "querencia" <querencia@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:44 pm
Subject: RE: Annopolis Boat Show in October 		sail_to_para...
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A group of us [ 8 sailors ]  attended The Annapolis Boat Show and one of the seminars that we

Attended was about cruising to Cuba, it was a great seminar, but they had only projected a small

Crowd and we had a very small room that we crammed hundreds of people into the seminar and probably

25 % of the attendees stood and another 35 % sat on the floor and the rest of us had seats, Wally Moran

who gave the seminar also had it written up in the November Issue of Sail Magazine .

 

Ed Pinanski

" Querencia "

1986 Pearson P33-2  # 37

Beverly,MA [ On the North Shore ]

 

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Subject: [MassBaySailors] Annopolis Boat Show in October

 

 

Did you attend any of the seminars at the boat show?

I'm working on a project for March and looking for feedback on what you liked or disliked about the seminar(s).

Thanks,

Robin


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#7193 From: "RobinC" <robin_coles@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:23 pm
Subject: Annopolis Boat Show in October 		robin_coles
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Did you attend any of the seminars at the boat show?

I'm working on a project for March and looking for feedback on what you liked or
disliked about the seminar(s).

Thanks,

Robin

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#7192 From: "richard usen" <UsenR1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:08 pm
Subject: RE: Hybrid Electric Motors vs Twin 55hp Yanmar's in our Charter Cats 		UsenR1@...
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I suspect the advantage in a cat is mechanical simplicity and flexibility, even tho you have electrical complexity w/ reversing and variable speed control on the motors. You can run two motors, four a/c units and refrigeration off one overworked diesel generator. This is probably good on a charter boat.
 
 
Dick Usen
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Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [MassBaySailors] Hybrid Electric Motors vs Twin 55hp Yanmar's in our Charter Cats

One gain from diesel-electric is that the diesel can be operated at its most efficient rpm and load regardless of boat speed.  See http://www.hybrid-marine.co.uk/10.html  Diesel-electric railroad locomotives have been common for decades.
 
Unlike boats, cars change speed (accelerate and decelerate) frequently.  The engine can be sized to the much smaller steady-state (cruising) power requirements while the battery supplies the extra energy needed to accelerate.  Regenerative braking charges the batteries instead of throwing braking energy away as lost heat.
 
Google "nigel calder hybrid" for much more.  He is getting funding from the European Union.  Malo Yachts is building a test boat for him.  Such a deal!

What is for sure is that existing "hybrid" marine propulsion is not nearly as efficient as straight diesel for cruising boats.
 
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Ahmet <SailNomad@...> wrote:
 



I was suspecting that this may be the case.
What is interesting is that there was such a small only one generator.
According to the specs the Generator is 22kW, so about 30HP.
I suspect that the regular generator was probably about 12 kW or so.
Nonetheless, regardless that electric motors have better torque etc, you are pushing the boat effectively with 30 HP instead of 110, which is not enough for 26000 lbs loaded.
 
There is some basic engineering facts. Every conversion of energy will give you a loss.
 
Cars have additional losses of fuel while idling and while accelerating, which is reduced through hybrid design.
This is not the case in boats. So no matter how you cut it, a fossil fuel-electrical charge-mechanical work engine will be less efficient than a fossil fuel-mechanical work type engine.
 
 
In general, electric energy can be generated mechanically by using the forces of nature, fossil fuel .. not.
So, electric motors in boats only make sense if you have ample solar, and excess water energy. i.e. charging batteries by spinning the props, or through an auxiliary water turbine.
Ahmet
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:39 PM
Subject: [MassBaySailors] Hybrid Electric Motors vs Twin 55hp Yanmar's in our Charter Cats

A friend asked me what I meant when I referred to our most recent charter catamaran as a “hybrid”,  my reply turned into the below;
 
 
The Non-Hybrid, Lagoon 440 (chartered in 2006 & 07) had 2 Yanmar 55 HP Diesels, one in the aft-section of each pontoon-hull, or one for each prop/shaft. These also have a smaller gen-set diesel for cabin service (D/C power & Air-Cond etc.) when not on shore power.
 
These diesels were plenty powerful and very fuel efficient.  Like most boats they had house batteries and starting batteries that would charge while the propulsion engines where running and also when the gen-set was running and when attached to shore-power.
 
To sustain our (the whole crew's) desired SOG (5 or > knots) and to maintain travel schedules we needed to motor-sail at least 60% of the time on each style sailboat.  
 
The Hybrid, a Lagoon 420:  Had the same (or almost the same) Gen-Set which was the only "engine" on-board.  Each aft engine compartment had electric motors and a large battery bank for those motors.  With the batteries fully charged you can motor smoothly and quietly but not with the same hp as the Yanmar's.  You could run those motors for about 1 to 2 hours at about 3/4's throttle before the batteries would drain to the point where you needed to start the gen-set (while under way) to keep the batteries charged or to avoid them dropping more voltage.  There were different throttle settings you could use, depending on your sailing speed, for varying recharge states.  These Catamarans were tubs with the exception of a few sailing angles, mostly on a reach and you can't or shouldn’t sail these directly down wind, they have NO back-stays.   Because these are "charter" boats their sail area is way under the engineered specifications.   
 
Anyway with the Hybrid we found ourselves running the gen-set at least 75% of the time while sailing.  Then we would get to our mooring, and it would be hot and often time to cook, so we turned on the gen-set to re-charge the batteries, run the house-systems and the Air-Cond.  We would also run the gen-set all night while sleeping.  The gen-set ran quite a bit.
 
On the Lagoon 440's (that we chartered twice previously) they had large fuel tanks for 3 engines to share.  Our first year when we returned the boat after a week of use from motor sailing and with the gen-set running at least 8 hrs each night, the fuel gages barely showed below full.
 
On the Hybrid, we had to refuel twice.  We most likely took on the equivalent of a full tank, maybe more, accumulatively.
 
So, the whole concept of a "Hybrid" being "green" and economical to operate or burning less fossil fuel and releasing less carbon into the atmosphere was false in our experience. 
 
Even worse we didn't have the hp umpff we are use to.  Although these engines are quiet, this made it difficult to assess the correct operation of these motors and knowing the RPMs of the shafts.  There should be an RPM meter at the helm for these electric motors or the shafts.
 
It was our experience that the Hybrid was at least several times LESS efficient than the non-hybrid traditional power options of the twin Yanmar diesels. 
 
The only way that this Hybrid might improve is if you are patient in traveling at 3.5 knots, but, this would also be the case with the twin Yanmar's too, less fuel consumption with patient sailing.
 
Thumbs-down, on this boats "Hybrid" configuration.  Before somebody asks, this was a 2008 Logoon 420 and the charter guy told me the owner just recently replaced the 2 large banks of batteries.  


 

Bill Scanlon Sr.
Winthrop Yacht Club
2009 Vice Commodore
USCG Master 50 GT
S/V "Ruby" an 84 Catalina 30
 
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#7191 From: Barry Needalman <b.needalman@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: Hybrid Electric Motors vs Twin 55hp Yanmar's in our Charter Cats 		bneedalm
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One gain from diesel-electric is that the diesel can be operated at its most efficient rpm and load regardless of boat speed.  See http://www.hybrid-marine.co.uk/10.html  Diesel-electric railroad locomotives have been common for decades.
 
Unlike boats, cars change speed (accelerate and decelerate) frequently.  The engine can be sized to the much smaller steady-state (cruising) power requirements while the battery supplies the extra energy needed to accelerate.  Regenerative braking charges the batteries instead of throwing braking energy away as lost heat.
 
Google "nigel calder hybrid" for much more.  He is getting funding from the European Union.  Malo Yachts is building a test boat for him.  Such a deal!

What is for sure is that existing "hybrid" marine propulsion is not nearly as efficient as straight diesel for cruising boats.
 
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Ahmet <SailNomad@...> wrote:
 



I was suspecting that this may be the case.
What is interesting is that there was such a small only one generator.
According to the specs the Generator is 22kW, so about 30HP.
I suspect that the regular generator was probably about 12 kW or so.
Nonetheless, regardless that electric motors have better torque etc, you are pushing the boat effectively with 30 HP instead of 110, which is not enough for 26000 lbs loaded.
 
There is some basic engineering facts. Every conversion of energy will give you a loss.
 
Cars have additional losses of fuel while idling and while accelerating, which is reduced through hybrid design.
This is not the case in boats. So no matter how you cut it, a fossil fuel-electrical charge-mechanical work engine will be less efficient than a fossil fuel-mechanical work type engine.
 
 
In general, electric energy can be generated mechanically by using the forces of nature, fossil fuel .. not.
So, electric motors in boats only make sense if you have ample solar, and excess water energy. i.e. charging batteries by spinning the props, or through an auxiliary water turbine.
Ahmet
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:39 PM
Subject: [MassBaySailors] Hybrid Electric Motors vs Twin 55hp Yanmar's in our Charter Cats

A friend asked me what I meant when I referred to our most recent charter catamaran as a “hybrid”,  my reply turned into the below;
 
 
The Non-Hybrid, Lagoon 440 (chartered in 2006 & 07) had 2 Yanmar 55 HP Diesels, one in the aft-section of each pontoon-hull, or one for each prop/shaft. These also have a smaller gen-set diesel for cabin service (D/C power & Air-Cond etc.) when not on shore power.
 
These diesels were plenty powerful and very fuel efficient.  Like most boats they had house batteries and starting batteries that would charge while the propulsion engines where running and also when the gen-set was running and when attached to shore-power.
 
To sustain our (the whole crew's) desired SOG (5 or > knots) and to maintain travel schedules we needed to motor-sail at least 60% of the time on each style sailboat.  
 
The Hybrid, a Lagoon 420:  Had the same (or almost the same) Gen-Set which was the only "engine" on-board.  Each aft engine compartment had electric motors and a large battery bank for those motors.  With the batteries fully charged you can motor smoothly and quietly but not with the same hp as the Yanmar's.  You could run those motors for about 1 to 2 hours at about 3/4's throttle before the batteries would drain to the point where you needed to start the gen-set (while under way) to keep the batteries charged or to avoid them dropping more voltage.  There were different throttle settings you could use, depending on your sailing speed, for varying recharge states.  These Catamarans were tubs with the exception of a few sailing angles, mostly on a reach and you can't or shouldn’t sail these directly down wind, they have NO back-stays.   Because these are "charter" boats their sail area is way under the engineered specifications.   
 
Anyway with the Hybrid we found ourselves running the gen-set at least 75% of the time while sailing.  Then we would get to our mooring, and it would be hot and often time to cook, so we turned on the gen-set to re-charge the batteries, run the house-systems and the Air-Cond.  We would also run the gen-set all night while sleeping.  The gen-set ran quite a bit.
 
On the Lagoon 440's (that we chartered twice previously) they had large fuel tanks for 3 engines to share.  Our first year when we returned the boat after a week of use from motor sailing and with the gen-set running at least 8 hrs each night, the fuel gages barely showed below full.
 
On the Hybrid, we had to refuel twice.  We most likely took on the equivalent of a full tank, maybe more, accumulatively.
 
So, the whole concept of a "Hybrid" being "green" and economical to operate or burning less fossil fuel and releasing less carbon into the atmosphere was false in our experience. 
 
Even worse we didn't have the hp umpff we are use to.  Although these engines are quiet, this made it difficult to assess the correct operation of these motors and knowing the RPMs of the shafts.  There should be an RPM meter at the helm for these electric motors or the shafts.
 
It was our experience that the Hybrid was at least several times LESS efficient than the non-hybrid traditional power options of the twin Yanmar diesels. 
 
The only way that this Hybrid might improve is if you are patient in traveling at 3.5 knots, but, this would also be the case with the twin Yanmar's too, less fuel consumption with patient sailing.
 
Thumbs-down, on this boats "Hybrid" configuration.  Before somebody asks, this was a 2008 Logoon 420 and the charter guy told me the owner just recently replaced the 2 large banks of batteries.  

 

 

Bill Scanlon Sr.
Winthrop Yacht Club
2009 Vice Commodore
USCG Master 50 GT
S/V "Ruby" an 84 Catalina 30
 
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#7190 From: "Ahmet" <SailNomad@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: Hybrid Electric Motors vs Twin 55hp Yanmar's in our Charter Cats 		aslan_toots
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I was suspecting that this may be the case.
What is interesting is that there was such a small only one generator.
According to the specs the Generator is 22kW, so about 30HP.
I suspect that the regular generator was probably about 12 kW or so.
Nonetheless, regardless that electric motors have better torque etc, you are pushing the boat effectively with 30 HP instead of 110, which is not enough for 26000 lbs loaded.
 
There is some basic engineering facts. Every conversion of energy will give you a loss.
 
Cars have additional losses of fuel while idling and while accelerating, which is reduced through hybrid design.
This is not the case in boats. So no matter how you cut it, a fossil fuel-electrical charge-mechanical work engine will be less efficient than a fossil fuel-mechanical work type engine.
 
 
In general, electric energy can be generated mechanically by using the forces of nature, fossil fuel .. not.
So, electric motors in boats only make sense if you have ample solar, and excess water energy. i.e. charging batteries by spinning the props, or through an auxiliary water turbine.
Ahmet
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:39 PM
Subject: [MassBaySailors] Hybrid Electric Motors vs Twin 55hp Yanmar's in our Charter Cats

A friend asked me what I meant when I referred to our most recent charter catamaran as a “hybrid”,  my reply turned into the below;
 
 
The Non-Hybrid, Lagoon 440 (chartered in 2006 & 07) had 2 Yanmar 55 HP Diesels, one in the aft-section of each pontoon-hull, or one for each prop/shaft. These also have a smaller gen-set diesel for cabin service (D/C power & Air-Cond etc.) when not on shore power.
 
These diesels were plenty powerful and very fuel efficient.  Like most boats they had house batteries and starting batteries that would charge while the propulsion engines where running and also when the gen-set was running and when attached to shore-power.
 
To sustain our (the whole crew's) desired SOG (5 or > knots) and to maintain travel schedules we needed to motor-sail at least 60% of the time on each style sailboat.  
 
The Hybrid, a Lagoon 420:  Had the same (or almost the same) Gen-Set which was the only "engine" on-board.  Each aft engine compartment had electric motors and a large battery bank for those motors.  With the batteries fully charged you can motor smoothly and quietly but not with the same hp as the Yanmar's.  You could run those motors for about 1 to 2 hours at about 3/4's throttle before the batteries would drain to the point where you needed to start the gen-set (while under way) to keep the batteries charged or to avoid them dropping more voltage.  There were different throttle settings you could use, depending on your sailing speed, for varying recharge states.  These Catamarans were tubs with the exception of a few sailing angles, mostly on a reach and you can't or shouldn’t sail these directly down wind, they have NO back-stays.   Because these are "charter" boats their sail area is way under the engineered specifications.   
 
Anyway with the Hybrid we found ourselves running the gen-set at least 75% of the time while sailing.  Then we would get to our mooring, and it would be hot and often time to cook, so we turned on the gen-set to re-charge the batteries, run the house-systems and the Air-Cond.  We would also run the gen-set all night while sleeping.  The gen-set ran quite a bit.
 
On the Lagoon 440's (that we chartered twice previously) they had large fuel tanks for 3 engines to share.  Our first year when we returned the boat after a week of use from motor sailing and with the gen-set running at least 8 hrs each night, the fuel gages barely showed below full.
 
On the Hybrid, we had to refuel twice.  We most likely took on the equivalent of a full tank, maybe more, accumulatively.
 
So, the whole concept of a "Hybrid" being "green" and economical to operate or burning less fossil fuel and releasing less carbon into the atmosphere was false in our experience. 
 
Even worse we didn't have the hp umpff we are use to.  Although these engines are quiet, this made it difficult to assess the correct operation of these motors and knowing the RPMs of the shafts.  There should be an RPM meter at the helm for these electric motors or the shafts.
 
It was our experience that the Hybrid was at least several times LESS efficient than the non-hybrid traditional power options of the twin Yanmar diesels. 
 
The only way that this Hybrid might improve is if you are patient in traveling at 3.5 knots, but, this would also be the case with the twin Yanmar's too, less fuel consumption with patient sailing.
 
Thumbs-down, on this boats "Hybrid" configuration.  Before somebody asks, this was a 2008 Logoon 420 and the charter guy told me the owner just recently replaced the 2 large banks of batteries.  

 

 

Bill Scanlon Sr.
Winthrop Yacht Club
2009 Vice Commodore
USCG Master 50 GT
S/V "Ruby" an 84 Catalina 30
 
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#7189 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
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A friend asked me what I meant when I referred to our most recent charter catamaran as a “hybrid”,  my reply turned into the below;
 
 
The Non-Hybrid, Lagoon 440 (chartered in 2006 & 07) had 2 Yanmar 55 HP Diesels, one in the aft-section of each pontoon-hull, or one for each prop/shaft. These also have a smaller gen-set diesel for cabin service (D/C power & Air-Cond etc.) when not on shore power.
 
These diesels were plenty powerful and very fuel efficient.  Like most boats they had house batteries and starting batteries that would charge while the propulsion engines where running and also when the gen-set was running and when attached to shore-power.
 
To sustain our (the whole crew's) desired SOG (5 or > knots) and to maintain travel schedules we needed to motor-sail at least 60% of the time on each style sailboat.  
 
The Hybrid, a Lagoon 420:  Had the same (or almost the same) Gen-Set which was the only "engine" on-board.  Each aft engine compartment had electric motors and a large battery bank for those motors.  With the batteries fully charged you can motor smoothly and quietly but not with the same hp as the Yanmar's.  You could run those motors for about 1 to 2 hours at about 3/4's throttle before the batteries would drain to the point where you needed to start the gen-set (while under way) to keep the batteries charged or to avoid them dropping more voltage.  There were different throttle settings you could use, depending on your sailing speed, for varying recharge states.  These Catamarans were tubs with the exception of a few sailing angles, mostly on a reach and you can't or shouldn’t sail these directly down wind, they have NO back-stays.   Because these are "charter" boats their sail area is way under the engineered specifications.   
 
Anyway with the Hybrid we found ourselves running the gen-set at least 75% of the time while sailing.  Then we would get to our mooring, and it would be hot and often time to cook, so we turned on the gen-set to re-charge the batteries, run the house-systems and the Air-Cond.  We would also run the gen-set all night while sleeping.  The gen-set ran quite a bit.
 
On the Lagoon 440's (that we chartered twice previously) they had large fuel tanks for 3 engines to share.  Our first year when we returned the boat after a week of use from motor sailing and with the gen-set running at least 8 hrs each night, the fuel gages barely showed below full.
 
On the Hybrid, we had to refuel twice.  We most likely took on the equivalent of a full tank, maybe more, accumulatively.
 
So, the whole concept of a "Hybrid" being "green" and economical to operate or burning less fossil fuel and releasing less carbon into the atmosphere was false in our experience. 
 
Even worse we didn't have the hp umpff we are use to.  Although these engines are quiet, this made it difficult to assess the correct operation of these motors and knowing the RPMs of the shafts.  There should be an RPM meter at the helm for these electric motors or the shafts.
 
It was our experience that the Hybrid was at least several times LESS efficient than the non-hybrid traditional power options of the twin Yanmar diesels. 
 
The only way that this Hybrid might improve is if you are patient in traveling at 3.5 knots, but, this would also be the case with the twin Yanmar's too, less fuel consumption with patient sailing.
 
Thumbs-down, on this boats "Hybrid" configuration.  Before somebody asks, this was a 2008 Logoon 420 and the charter guy told me the owner just recently replaced the 2 large banks of batteries.  

 

 

Bill Scanlon Sr.
Winthrop Yacht Club
2009 Vice Commodore
USCG Master 50 GT
S/V "Ruby" an 84 Catalina 30
 
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African pirates attacked an oil tanker Tuesday in the oil-rich waters off the continent's west coast, Agence France Presse reported.
The pirates reportedly killed a Ukranian crewman, believed to be the chief engineer of the 750-foot vessel, AFP reported.
Four other crewmen aboard the Monfrovia-flagged Cancale Star were injured in the attack that occurred just off the Benin coast, AFP reported.
"The death that we have is the chief mechanic, who is responsible for the engines. He is Ukrainian. The captain, a Lithuanian, is not hurt," said Commander Maxime Ahoyo, according to AFP.
Ahoyo was aboard a Beninese navy boat that assisted the tanker.
A doctor who boarded the Cancale Star said one of the crewmen suffered from gunshot wounds. The doctor also said the tanker's first officer was seriously injured, AFP reported.
The attack occurred during the night. One pirate, a Nigerian from Badagry, 40 miles west of Lagos, was captured by the crew and then handed over to police for questioning.
It was unclear whether the other pirates were able to escape or were still on the tanker.
Most western African piracy attacks occur while ships are at anchor or close to the shore, unlike Somali pirates off eastern Africa, who have netted millions of dollars in ransoms in exchange for the release of ships captured hundreds of miles from the coast

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Winthrop Yacht Club
2009 Vice Commodore
USCG Master 50 GT
S/V "Ruby" an 84 Catalina 30
 
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#7187 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:50 pm
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Our BVI's Nov. 2009 vacation photos. There are 2 albums one of Nature & Scenery the other of "Crew".  There are a lot of pictures in each, I need to trim them down.  I hope you enjoy them.
 
These photos were taken by WYC's new VC Ralph Duplin.
 
 
 
 
 

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2009 Vice Commodore
USCG Master 50 GT
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Nov. 19, 2009 - Issue # 171

Cruising Shots of the Week

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"Grace, a Valiant 42, ended up on the seawall after Hurricane Ike. We were able to purchase her, return her to the Valiant factory for repairs, then have her trucked to Kentucky Lake to get to know each other. We have changed her name to Saving Grace and are planning on taking her cruising soon. In the second shot, we are doing about 8 knots on a lovely day last spring." Sent in by Dennis Lindauer.

Have a cool cruising shot to share? Send it to us at: comments@.... Welcome to Cruising Compass, your weekly fix of news, notes and tips for cruisers and sailors. And as always, we love receiving your cruising news and photos. Have something to share? Send it to comments@...

-Your Cruising Editor - Nancy Birnbaum

A Low-Cost Solution to Dramatically Extend Cruising Range ahoycapt_tanks

Using flexible tanks to store and transport liquids has many benefits. Flexible tanks are rugged but lightweight, infinitely adaptable and easy to store when not in use. They provide many advantages over rigid tanks and have become very popular with both yacht-builders and boat owners.

Because of their flexibility and range of sizes, flexible tanks can fit into almost any space, especially those odd-shaped places that would otherwise be wasted. And when empty, these tanks can be rolled up and stowed out of the way. Flexible tanks are very easy to work with and are available for fuel, fresh water and waste holding. They come with or without fittings installed to suit your particular requirements. Flexible tanks are extremely durable and can provide years of trouble-free service. AhoyCaptain.com offers an extensive selection of flexible tanks and accessories as well as a knowledgeable staff that can help you choose the right tank for your installation. You can see them at www.ahoycaptain.com/shop/flexibletanks.html.

Dock Talk Miami International Boat Show/Strictly Sail Miami Prepares to Make Waves

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The 69th annual Miami International Boat Show and Strictly Sail Miami cruises into town February 11-15, 2010. New and experienced boaters can view, board and buy the best the boating industry has to offer. With special deals on everything from sailboats and mega-yachts to engines and the newest electronics, the 2010 show is the ideal place to shop, save and enhance every boating experience. Read more online at BWS.com.

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Groupama 3 Broken and Must Abandon Jules Verne Trophy

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On November 16, the skipper of the 105-foot trimaran Groupama 3, Franck Cammas, called the Jules Verne Trophy team to inform them that an aft beam bulkhead had broken, leading to serious damage to the float. A bulkhead attached to the aft beam simply gave up the ghost in the harsh conditions as the giant trimaran had her sails angled at 90 degrees; to the true wind in a powerful NNE'ly air flow and rough seas. The crew knew they had to go fast to stay in the right sector of the warm front, hot on their heels, in order to drop down towards the Cape of Good Hope with the Brazilian low. The resulting weakness caused the windward float to fissure, and in light of the sizeable damage, the crew immediately stopped the boat and concluded that it would be necessary to abandon this round the world attempt. MORE: http://tinyurl.com/yz899r4.

Attention All Ships Transiting East and South of Somalia/off Kenya/off Tanzania/off Madagascar/off Seychelles

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Attacks are increasing off the coast of Somalia. With the end of the SW monsoons and favorable weather conditions, Somali pirates are actively attacking vessels at great distances from the Somali coast by using mother vessels. Seven vessels have been attacked and two vessels successfully hijacked in the area: 06:17N 054:41E, 01:53S 060:05E, 01:33S 054:52E, 01:47S 056:07E, 02:36S 048:34E and 03:45S 046:43E.

Ships transiting south and east of the coast of Somalia to ports outside of east Africa should consider navigating to the east of Madagascar, east of 60 east and south of 10 south. All attacks, including sightings of suspicious crafts/mother ships, should be reported to the 24 hour manned IMB Piracy Reporting Centre - Tel: 00 60 3 2078 5763 / 00 60 3 2031 0014 Email: imbkl@.... Photo: 'Suspected pirate vessel Burum Ocean' / icc-ccs.org.

Best Anti-Piracy Management Practice for the Gulf of Aden and off Somalia

In an effort to counter Piracy in the Gulf of Aden and off the east coast of Somalia, industry bodies including the International Maritime Bureau have published the Best Managment Practice (BMP) guidelines. Go to www.icc-ccs.org to download a copy of the BMP pdf. From: ICC Commercial Crime Services, International Marine Bureau.

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Royal Navy Crew Watched Couple Being Kidnapped by Pirates

The crew of a Royal Navy vessel watched a British couple being kidnapped by Somali pirates, but were ordered not to open fire in case they endangered the couple's lives.

Paul and Rachel Chandler were kidnapped in the early hours of 23 October when armed men stormed their yacht, the Lynn Rival, as it sailed from the Seychelles towards Tanzania. Their captors are continuing to demand a $7m ransom, which the government has refused to pay.

An official account of the kidnap released last month said only that a Royal Navy vessel found the empty yacht, without disclosing that its crew saw the action unfolding. The full picture emerged when an anonymous crew member leaked the details to the press.

In other news on the couple, reports from their captors are saying that they are ill and refusing to eat or drink. It is believed that they became ill from infected food or water. Awali, one of the pirates, said: “Sometimes they will not speak to us, and sometimes they refuse to eat or drink. Photo: 'Peter and Rachel Chandler's yacht the Lynn Rival in a picture released by the EU Naval Force Somalia' / EU Navfor/PA. MORE: www.guardian.co.uk.

Alex Caizergues Breaks World Kiteboarding Record

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Frenchman Alex Caizergues (F One) has broken the world kiteboarding speed record with an incredible time of 50.98 knots, breaking his previous world record of 50.57. Rob Douglas (Cabrinha) also set a new American outright speed sailing record with an equally impressive time of 50.95 knots, just three one hundredths of a knot shy of Alex Caizergues. Read More online at BWS.com.

Another Speed Record Smashed

l'Hydroptere's record campaign in the Mediterranean ended in great style last Sunday as Alain Thebault and his 10 crew smashed the record over one nautical mile, exceeding 50 knots. An average speed of 50.17 knots (92.91km/h) over one nautical mile (1.852 km) is the new record to beat over this distance (pending ratification). Alain Thebault and his crew members now have the speed records on both distances over 50 knots, that is 51.36 knots over 500 meters and 50.17 knots over one nautical mile.

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Clipper 09-10 Round the World Yacht Race – Update

In hurricane force winds, California, the American entry in the Clipper 09-10 Round the World Yacht Race, arrived in Cape Town at the end of an extremely challenging race across the South Atlantic. Two thousand miles into the 3,300-mile race from Rio de Janeiro in Brazil to Cape Town, California's steering wheel sheared off and the crew sailed the last third of the race using the emergency steering system. California crossed the finish line in Table Bay, but winds gusting up to 67 knots made pulling alongside in the busy marina at Royal Cape Yacht Club inadvisable – especially in the dark of the night – so the team was diverted to a safe mooring at the Robben Island Ferry terminal in the V and A Waterfront. The event restarts on November 22 for the race from Cape Town to Geraldton-Greenough, Western Australia. MORE: www.clipperroundtheworld.com/index.php/race_news.

Tech Talk OCENS announces release of GRIB Explorer 8

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The updated version of the renowned GRIB reader includes new a plot options panel that allows users to more closely control how data is displayed. Users can set contour line intervals, number of contours displayed, and ranges as they relate to the data. All of these adjustments can be made on the fly while viewing the data, helping to pinpoint the information that is most important. GRIB Explorer 8 also sports an updated graphical menu bar and more background map images to choose from for displaying data over.

OCENS is dedicated to bringing users the most powerful GRIB viewer out there, as well as a full line of satellite systems and data services to help people stay connected and get weather data onboard – when they need it – at a price they can afford. MORE: www.ocens.com/GRIB_Explorer.

Cool Things To Do 40th Annual Peg Legs Round Tortola Race

The Peg Legs Round Tortola Race will take place on Saturday, November 21st. This 36-mile event is in its 40th consecutive year of running, and more than ever before, bragging rights are on the table. This will be the second year in a row that the fleet will undertake a complete circumnavigation of Tortola, starting and finishing off Nanny Cay. The skippers' meeting will be held at the Royal BVI Yacht Club (RBVIYC) from 6-8pm on Friday the 20th of November, and sailing instructions will be available. The RBVIYC will also be hosting an Oyster Night that evening. The post-race party begins at Peg Legs as soon as competitors finish, followed by the prize giving at 6pm (or when results are finalized). Peg Legs, Nanny Cay's flagship restaurant at the entrance to the marina, will be rocking with live music and drink specials post-race.

Nanny Cay is host and presenting sponsor of the BVI Spring Regatta and Sailing Festival and host for international cruising rallies ARC Europe, the Caribbean 1500 and the Atlantic Cup. Located between Road Town and West End on Tortola in the British Virgin Islands, Nanny Cay's fully-equipped marina and boat repair facility have berths for 180 motor cruisers and yachts and two boat lifts of 50 and 70 tons capacity. The newly renovated property includes a 40-room hotel, waterfront townhouses for purchase and rental, two restaurants, a small supermarket, shops and boutiques, a dive shop, a water sports center, free WiFi service, and a gym and spa.

For more information visit: www.nannycay.com.

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Give the Gift of Sailing this Holiday Season

This holiday season, treat your loved one to an adrenaline-pumping experience with an Offshore Sailing School “gift of sail,” a fully-customizable gift selection for aspiring or accomplished sailors. Whatever their sailing skill level, “gift of sail” recipients will learn under the direction of former Olympian and America's Cup competitor Steve Colgate and his acclaimed team of instructors. As a bonus, an inshore sport vest by Gill is included with each gift certificate.

Offshore, a leader in learning vacations, offers a diverse range of courses from beginner through advanced cruising and racing. Designed to work as a series, each new course builds on prior lessons or equivalent experience. Starting at a minimum of $200, gift certificates can be purchased as a deposit for any of the school's sailing courses. Two-hour lessons start at $75 per person/per hour, and three to five day courses start at $895 per person. The recipient may choose dates, location and course level. For more information visit www.offshoresailing.com.

Waves of Change for 2010 Grenada Sailing Festival

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Longer courses, new deep-water marks, one day of sailing dedicated to an Ocean Race and an extended South Coast Ocean Triangle herald change and a fresh format for the 2010 Grenada Sailing Festival, presented by Port Louis and Camper and Nicholsons Marinas.

The annual event, in association with the Grenada Board of Tourism, will run from 29 January to 2 February 2010. Organizers are hoping to attract bigger yachts and the strongly competitive crews based in the region, while providing top quality racing and an early sailing season tune-up for international yachts visiting the Caribbean for the winter. There has been a great response to the new plans, with some of the hottest names in Caribbean racing already booked on the start line.

Check out the entries page on the festival website: www.grenadasailingfestival.com.

New Boat of the Week Norstar 40

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The Norstar 40 has a proven efficient shape. Her high-aspect-ratio skeg together with her large rudder gives her superb steering and exceptional tracking. Examine the joiner work details, the laminated trims, the solid teak framing and proper joint design -- they are examples of “top-drawer” execution. Locker interiors are finished as if they were always exposed to view. The interior is constructed of the finest seasoned woods. She is a textbook example of how to make a deck efficient, safe and beautiful. Easily handled by two, a good sailor will have no trouble single-handing. The non-skid surfaces are easy to keep clean and as gripping to the foot when wet as when dry.

The Norstar 40 is a triumph in every respect. Contact Norstar Boats at www.norstarboats.com, call 360-223-2399 or email at sales@....

Boat Rat's Tip of the Week 5 Tax Tips for Cruisers

The end of the year is almost upon us, and with it, that familiar wave of uncertainly. The question on many a cruisers' mind: How can I find a way to deduct the cost of my boat in April when the IRS comes calling? Surprisingly, there are several ways that you can write off some of the cost of your boat and reduce your tax burden.

According to Tanner Kidd, a tax specialist and boating enthusiast from Seattle, "Most boat owners miss out on some valuable deductions because they don't know about particular loopholes. But anyone who doesn't take full advantage of the tax laws is simply giving money away. It is illegal, of course, to avoid taxes. It's perfectly legitimate, however, to minimize your taxes".

Tax Tip #1: Your Home Afloat

For the interest deduction, here's what you have to do:

* Designate your boat as one of your two qualified residences.

* Make sure your boat includes basic and permanent living accommodations, such as permanent sleeping area (berth), toilet (head) and cooking facilities (galley).

* If you charter your boat, make sure you use it for personal purposes either 14 days a year or one-tenth as many days as you rent it out. (See # 2).

Read MORE online at BWS.com: http://bwsailing.com/BWS_newsandnotes_5-Tax-Tips-for-Cruisers.html.

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Cruising Community Fitting Out for World Cruising - Part III: Comfort and Safety Below Decks

Throughout the month of November, Blue Water Sailing and the Cruising Compass will focus on Fitting Out For World Cruising. This week, Cruising Compass brings you Part III of our "Fitting Out for World Cruising" Series. Our interview with Pam Wall discusses comfort and safety below decks.

CC: What should be our top concern when it comes to comfort and safety onboard our cruising yacht?

Pam Wall: When asked about a comfortable and safe yacht, I always try to remind sailors that the boat itself is the most important part of cruising. There are so many variables to consider, but you can remember the essentials. The boat has to have good sea going capabilities. It must be a weatherly boat, it should be able to heave to easily, it has to be easy to handle, and it must be well and sturdily built. Choosing a boat that is well designed for blue water sailing capability is paramount to being comfortable and safe at sea and in port.

Read the entire interview at BWS.com and be sure to pick up this months&#039; issue of BWS Magazine and read the Fitting Out for World Cruising section.

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Bojangles IV Takes Top Honors in the 20th Anniversary Caribbean 1500 Rally

A week of strong northeast winds propelled the 54 sailboats in the 20th Anniversary Caribbean 1500 fleet from Hampton VA to Tortola, BVI. In as few as six days, the boats hugged the rhumb line and sailed on a single port tack for the entire passage. Bojangles IV, a Gulfstar 50 Ketch owned by the Kilgour family of Toronto, Canada, took Overall Handicap Honors. First to finish was Crazy Horse, a Sundeer 60 owned by Bill and Rosemary Thomas of Middletown MD, which completed the passage in 6 days 9 hours and 15 minutes.

The Caribbean 1500 Rally, managed by the Cruising Rally Association and co-sponsored by BWS, left Hampton on November 2nd after a week of preparatory briefings, safety inspections, and gala social events. The fleet arrived at the official host port and sponsor, Nanny Cay Resort and Marina, six to 10 days later, with many veteran skippers recording "personal best" passage times.

Colin and Kathleen Kilgour, along with Mitchell (age 11) and twins Gillian and Clare (age 9), were one of eight family boats with children that participated in this year's rally. After taking top honors, Colin said, "What a passage! A full seven days of great winds, with all of it aft of the beam. This was Bojangles' first trip offshore and the boat performed like a dream in the big seas and strong winds. From: carib1500.com.

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Changes at the Southbound SSB Radio Net

On your way down the Mexico coast, you may want to check in on the Southbound Radio Net, which is broadcast nightly on SSB radio. The net starts at 0055 Zulu at 8122 kHz Upper Side band and briefly takes check-ins from vessels underway. At 0100, there is a brief weather update from Don Anderson of Summer Passage. Following that, the net moves to 4054 kHz Upper Side Band for more check-ins, announcements and traffic.

If you are interested in joining the net as a controller, alternate, or are interested in helping coordinate this vital service to the fleet, please contact sailmail address wde2635, winlink address KI6UPS, or gmail address valiantskipper.

"A Voyage At Sea – What's It Really Like?" Another excellent Webinar from Seven Seas U

This webinar explains the normal daily occurrences of an offshore passage, from departure to landfall in a foreign country. It also discusses how to keep the boat and crew safe and efficiently conduct a passage at sea and provides an answer to the very common question, “What's it really like on the ocean?” Taught by Captain Ed Mapes on Saturday, November 21 at 10 a.m. $30 - SSCA members/$36 – non-members.

Now you can learn with the flexibility, freedom and convenience offered by Seven Seas U! To register for an SSU course, go to www.SevenSeasU.com.

Website of the Week http://rnli.org.uk/

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#7183 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:29 pm
Subject: Buddy, can you spare a boat loan? 		catalina30ruby
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It sounds to me like the continued weak economy and credit-crunch will continue to strangle the yachting industry;
 
 
 
 
 
Buddy, can you spare a boat loan?

By Deborah Bach on September 14th, 2009

 
Marty McOmber | Three Sheets Northwest
Boat buyers are dipping their toes in the water again, but may find it tougher to qualify for financing.
 

With economists declaring the recession officially over, boat dealers and brokers have reason to hope that more people will soon be buying boats.

 

But stricter terms make qualifying for a boat loan harder than it used to be. The days of low down payments and loans given without proof of income or ability to pay are over. Put simply, borrowers have to prove to banks that they can afford the boats they’re buying.

“There is money available, but qualifications are very tight and a high level of documentation of assets is the norm today,” said Tobey Wilkins, a vice president of Viking Bank in Seattle.

 

“A few years ago, there were no income verification mortgages, and you could get boats that way. Now, the pendulum has swung the other way about as far as it can go.”

Wilkins and other lenders say boat buyers will need to put at least 20 percent down, and possibly more for smaller loans or boats that will be used as liveaboards. They’ll need to provide evidence they can make loan payments, have credit scores in the mid-600s or higher and have a fairly high net worth.

 

Viking Bank typically requires a net worth of at least twice the loan amount, Wilkins said. For a boat loan of $50,000, for example, a borrower would need a net worth of at least $100,000. That requirement may put boat loans out of the reach of most renters and young people, Wilkins acknowledged.

 

“It’s very tough on renters, because they don’t build any real estate equity, which is where most of us have our net worth,” he said.

 

“And if you’re just starting your career, (the chances of obtaining a boat loan) are probably not very good unless you’re a baseball player and sign a seven-and-a-half-million-dollar contract. But generally, even with really good cash flow, a young person without a lot of net worth has a very difficult time today buying a boat.”

 

Kaycee Pang, a marine loan processor at Peoples Bank in Seattle, said the bank evaluates potential borrowers on four main criteria: character (stability and reliability through confirmed employment and consistency in paying debts), the ability to repay (often referred to as debt-to-income ratio), credit and assets.

 

“Banks are comfortable lending to individuals with a positive net worth, a steady source of income, limited debt and available cash reserves,” she said, “more than ever in this market where jobs aren’t as stable as in previous years.”

 

The industry is hopeful that a strong turnout at the August Seattle Boat Show at Shilshole Bay Marina is indication the market is turning around.

 

Boats more than 25 years old probably won’t be eligible for financing, and the relatively higher cost of boats in the Pacific Northwest exacerbates the difficulty of securing a loan. The amount lenders are willing to loan is determined by the boat’s blue book value, representative of a nationwide average. Since boats tend to cost more in the Northwest than in other parts of the country, borrowers may need to make up the difference between the boat’s selling price and what a bank will lend.

 

Despite the tighter restrictions, Alan Bohling, CEO of Seattle Boat Co., doesn’t believe financing is a significant obstacle to boat ownership.

 

“If you have a solid credit score and are a middle-class American, for the most part, you absolutely can buy a boat today,” Bohling said.

 

“The terms maybe have been altered a little bit, but it doesn’t mean that the funds aren’t available. It just means we’ve got to meet the criteria. The criteria is more definite and banks cannot bend the rules anymore.”

 

Nonetheless, tougher terms and increased numbers of boat owners wanting to sell have prompted some innovative approaches to financing. Wilkins said he’s noticed a sharp increase in the number of boat sellers who are willing to hold loans and allow buyers to pay them directly.

 

“There is more owner financing going on than I’ve ever seen,” he said.

The practice makes sense from a seller’s perspective, Wilkins said—if a seller needing to unload a boat finds a willing buyer who can’t get financing, holding the loan might be preferable to being stuck with the boat. Pang said owner financing has become an increasingly common way to sell older boats, since many banks won’t finance those purchases.

 

“It becomes a bit more of a personal liability for a seller to carry a private note, but if he or she wants to get rid of their boat badly enough, owner financing might be their only option,” she said.

 

Several lending institutions including Wachovia, Textron Financial, Pacific First and GE Money have gotten out of marine lending. Molly Holden, owner of Pacific Maritime Title in Seattle, said that’s led to some unusual financing arrangements, such as deep-pocketed boat sellers loaning money to brokers to purchase their boats when they trade up to a new boat.

 

“You’re seeing the private sector coming in and doing some (lending to dealers),” she said. “People are becoming more creative because the money has tightened up.”

 

So where does this leave the would-be borrower in search of a boat loan?

 

Borrowers can contact banks directly to ask about requirements and lending terms or consult with service companies that function as loan brokers, working with various lenders to get the best deal for borrowers. Service companies operating in the Puget Sound area include Trident Funding Corporation, Seacoast Marine Finance and Intercoastal Financial Group, Inc.

 

Pang said buyers needn’t be discouraged, just prepared.

 

“First, dissolve the myth that financing isn’t available anymore, because it is,” she said. “With that in mind, take the time to get your ducks in a row and do everything you can to present yourself as an eligible borrower before applying for your loan.”

 

Holden predicted that more lenders will offer boat loans as the economy continues to rebound. “Boat buyers are traditionally strong borrowers,” she said. “They’re financially strong. It’s a good risk.”



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#7182 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:37 pm
Subject: Now in the December issue of Practical Sailor... 		catalina30ruby
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Dear  BILL SCANLON,

The December issue of Practical Sailor, now online at www.practical-sailor.com, features a timely article on navigation using today’s “smart phones.” As ingenious as they may be, the phones and software that we tested on the water are simply too small and fragile to be regarded as a reliable navigational tool. Nevertheless, we found many handy applications for these devices. Our testers found them particularly helpful as souped-up cruising guides, instantly delivering everything from tide data to the locations of waterfront restaurants.

One potential benefit to sailors is that today’s high-powered mobile devices provide new competition for the conventional handheld GPS, a category that Garmin has dominated for a few years. It is probably no coincidence that our favorite handheld GPS from 2008, the floating Garmin GPS76CSx, is now selling for $300—a 30 percent price markdown from earlier this year.

It will be interesting to see what lies ahead in this category. Already, our mobile phones can let us know when our favorite gear goes on sale, provide a picture (a very tiny one) of the local weather radar, and even alert us when there’s water in our bilge. The ability to quickly tap into the collective knowledge of other cruisers in our region is another big boon.

The vast reservoir of information within the sailing community was particularly obvious to me this month as I sifted through my e-mail. In response to my recent request for suggested tests for 2010, I received an overwhelming response. It was interesting to see the wide range of suggestions – from digital radar to buffing compound. Among the most popular subjects were sails, cordage, folding propellers, autopilots, and non-skid deck coatings. These and other suggested topics have been added to our list for next year.

Another popular item was boat tests. Some readers mentioned that they don’t need to read any more boat tests. Others urged us to focus on new boats, since they could find no other unbiased source of information. Still others asked us to narrow the scope to affordable used boats. I’m interested in hearing more on this (and any other) topic. Just e-mail me at the address below. Please be sure to include what type of boat you currently sail and what boats or products you’d like to see reviewed, if any.

Finally, if you are looking for speakers for your local sailing organization, be sure to check out the link to our “Featured Speakers” on our home page or contact me by e-mail. Technical Editor Ralph Naranjo, contributing editor Capt. Frank Lanier, and yours truly will be available this winter and spring for speaking engagements. If you’re planning a long-term cruise, Ralph will be a featured presenter at the new winter workshop for cruisers at the Annapolis School of Seamanship Jan. 23 and 23, www.annapolisschoolofseamanship.com/cruisers-workshop.html.
Sure, you can find a lot of info on your phone these days, but when it comes to sharing secrets, schemes, and dreams, there’s still no substitute for a good old sailors’ gam.

Sincerely,

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#7181 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:16 pm
Subject: Ruby gets a "name" lift! Process & Products used 		catalina30ruby
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Hi Paul/All,
 
I am not sure of the process or products used for S/V Ruby's name touch-up.
 
I know this Marie did it the 1st time 20 years ago and it sustained very well.
 
You can e-mail her and ask.  I'll ask her too and post her response here.
 

Marie

MG Signs

617-799-9529

www.mgboatsigns.com

 


 
Bill Scanlon Sr.
Winthrop Yacht Club
2009 Vice Commodore
USCG Master 50 GT
S/V "Ruby" an 84 Catalina 30
 
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#7180 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:52 pm
Subject: WiFi and Boats… 		catalina30ruby
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Hi,
 
I found this document very helpful.
 
It is 11 pages long so I only pasted page 1 below.  To read it all go to the link;
 
 
  The Company supplying the info is NetGate 


 

WiFi and Boats…

Since our company name and a link to our web site appeared in the December 2005

issue of Sail magazine we have received many queries asking the essential question:

“I want to install a WiFi system on my boat to increase my range; what do I

need to buy?”

Frequently that question is accompanied by some description of the “recently purchased

laptop computer” and sometimes the comment that the “built in Wireless card is

inadequate” (although frequently not stated in a pleasant manner.)

Let’s try to address this situation. What do you need to buy? That depends!

Summary:

This document discusses several considerations when choosing to provide wireless

networking to a boat or on a boat – any kind of boat. We will cover a lot of information

which will help the reader to understand a variety of issues that can help them get the

optimum solution for their situation.

For those of you who want the “quick” answer and just need a way to get the one

laptop on board to “talk” to the Access Point(s) on shore, here’s the answer for the

largest percentage of boat owners. Get the Extended 500mW RV PLUS Kit. It has a high

powered “radio”, a high gain omni-directional antenna, an active USB extension cable

and, although it is labeled as an RV Kit, works wonderfully for most boaters and sailors.

You might want to stow it below while not in use and perhaps even hoist it on a halyard

or Velcro it to the topsides when in use, but it will work for most people better than

most anything you might already have.

For the rest of you and those interested, read on. We have tried to cover the bases. If

you still have questions feel free to look at our web site (www.netgate.com) or contact

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#7179 From: Paul S <paul@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:01 am
Subject: Re: Ruby gets a "name" lift! 		yellow_mgb
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It wasn't clear on the site if the work is painted on or vinyl lettering. Any advantage of paint over vinyl lettering?
We had lettering put on our Macgregor a few years ago made at a local sign shop, 3 color digital printing with a clearcoat for $60 http://www.ne-ts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=93Came out pretty good.
We had some temporary lettering put on our new boat for $20. Still look decent too


On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...> wrote:
Hi,
Marie is a new member at WYC and a very lucky addition for us, she is a lovely person.
Marie owns her own "sign" company and a lot of her work is painting boat names.
In speaking with Marie this season we came to realize that Marie originally painted "Ruby" on our C30 20 years ago for a previous owner. Obviously the name has stuck.
Over the past few days Marie has touched up Ruby's transom name and corrected my home-port, finally.
Notice her nice work via the before & after photo's below!
Of course I highly recommend her!
Thanks Marie!

From: Marie Piacenza <mgsigns@...>
Subject: Ruby
To: "Bill Scanlon" <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 10:03 AM

Hi Bill,

Here are the before and after pics of "Ruby". See you and Andrea on Saturday night.

Thanks !

Marie

Marie Piacenza
MG Signs
617-799-9529





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#7178 From: "AIR FORCED ONE" <betteo@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:29 am
Subject: Pelagic Sailing Club Meets tonight! 		bette.oconnor
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The Pelagic Sailing Club will meet tonight at the Savin Hill Yacht Club 400
Morrissey Blvd, Dorchester, Ma on the second floor. Tonght's speaker will be Ken
Kinkor, Curator of the Whydah Museum in Wellfleet, who will talk about the
"Expedition Whydah" that sank off the coast of Wellfleet in 1717.

Club business sessions begins at 7:30 pm after an hour of social gathering and
munching. Pizza is provided at nominal cost and arrives around 6:30 pm. Drinks
are available from the first floor yacht club bar.

Pelagic Sailing Club is dedicated to bringing together competent skippers and
competent crew for their mutual sailing benefit. If you sail this is a great
group of folk to connect with on or off the water.

For further information on the club, membership or directions
www.pelagicsalingclub.org will provide you with information.

Bette
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Constitution Marina


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#7177 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:14 pm
Subject: Somali Pirates Attack U.S.- Flagged Ship for Second Time 		catalina30ruby
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Somali Pirates Attack U.S.-Flagged Ship for Second Time

Wednesday, November 18, 2009
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NAIROBI, Kenya — 
Somali pirates attacked the Maersk Alabama on Wednesday for the second time in seven months, though private guards on board the U.S.-flagged ship repelled the attack with gunfire and a high-decibel noise device.
A U.S. surveillance plane was monitoring the ship as it continued to its destination on the Kenyan coast, while a pirate said that the captain of a ship hijacked Monday with 28 North Korean crew members on board had died of wounds.
Pirates hijacked the Maersk Alabama last April and took ship captain Richard Phillips hostage, holding him at gunpoint in a lifeboat for five days. Navy SEAL sharpshooters freed Phillips while killing three pirates in a daring nighttime attack.
Four suspected pirates in a skiff attacked the ship again on Wednesday around 6:30 a.m. local time, firing on the ship with automatic weapons from about 300 yards away, a statement from the U.S. Fifth Fleet in Bahrain said.
An on-board security team repelled the attack by using evasive maneuvers, small-arms fire and a Long Range Acoustic Device, which can beam earsplitting alarm tones, the fleet said.
Vice Adm. Bill Gortney of the U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, said the Maersk Alabama had followed the maritime industry's "best practices" in having a security team on board.
"This is a great example of how merchant mariners can take proactive action to prevent being attacked and why we recommend that ships follow industry best practices if they're in high-risk areas," Gortney said in a statement.
However, Roger Middleton, a piracy expert at the London-based think tank Chatham House, said the international maritime community was still "solidly against" armed guards aboard vessels at sea, but that American ships have taken a different line than the rest of the international community.
"Shipping companies are still pretty much overwhelmingly opposed to the idea of armed guards," Middleton said. "Lots of private security companies employee people who don't have maritime experience. Also, there's the idea that it's the responsibility of states and navies to provide security. I would think it's a step backward if we start privatizing security of the shipping trade."
A Massachusetts Maritime Academy professor, who is also the father of a sailor who was on the Maersk Alabama during the first pirate attack in April, said about 20 percent of the ships off East Africa are armed.
The owners of the Maersk Alabama have spent a considerable amount of money since the April hijacking to make the vessel pirate-proof, Murphy said, including structural features and safety equipment. The most dramatic change is what he called a security force of "highly trained ex-military personnel."
"Somali pirates understand one thing and only one thing, and that's force," said Capt. Joseph Murphy, who teaches maritime security at the school. "They analyze risk very carefully, and when the risk is too high they are going to step back. They are not going to jeopardize themselves."
The wife of the Maersk Alabama's captain, Paul Rochford, told WBZ-AM radio in Boston that she was "really happy" there were weapons on board for this attack.
"It probably surprised the pirates. They were probably shocked," Kimberly Rochford. "I'm really happy at least it didn't turn out like the last time."
A self-proclaimed pirate told The Associated Press from the Somali pirate town of Haradhere that colleagues out at sea had called around 9 a.m. — 2 1/2 hours after the attack.
"They told us that they got in trouble with an American ship, then we lost them. We have been trying to locate them since," said a self-described pirate who gave his name as Abdi Nor.
A U.S. Navy P-3 surveillance aircraft "is monitoring Maersk Alabama and has good voice communication with the vessel," said Lt. Nathan Christensen, the Bahrain-based spokesman for the 5th Fleet.
"Everything is safe and secure and Maersk Alabama is proceeding to their intended destination," Christensen said. The ship was heading for the Kenyan port town of Mombasa.
Maritime experts said it was unlucky but not unprecedented that the Maersk Alabama had been targeted in a second attack.
"It's not the first vessel to have been attacked twice, and it's a chance that every single ship takes as it passes through the area," Cmdr. John Harbour, a spokesman for the EU Naval Force. "At least this time they had a vessel protection detachment on board who were able to repel the attack."
Phillips' ordeal last spring galvanized the attention of the U.S. public to the dangers of operating merchant ships in the Horn of Africa, one of the busiest and most precarious sea lanes in the world.
Underscoring the danger, a self-proclaimed pirate said Wednesday that the captain of a ship hijacked Monday had died of wounds suffered during the ship's hijacking. The pirate, Sa'id, who gave only one name for fear of reprisals, said the captain died Tuesday night from internal bleeding.
The EU Naval Force has said the Virgin Islands-owned chemical tanker the Theresa was taken Monday with 28 North Korean crew.
Pirates have greatly increased their attacks in recent weeks after seasonal rains subsided. On Tuesday, a self-proclaimed pirate said that Somali hijackers had been paid $3.3 million for the release of 36 crew members from a Spanish vessel held for more than six weeks — a clear demonstration of how lucrative the trade can be for impoverished Somalis.
Phillips told the AP last month from his farmhouse in Vermont that he was contemplating retiring from sea life after his ordeal. He's been given a book deal and a movie could be in the works.
Phillips was hailed as a hero for helping his crew thwart April's hijacking before he was taken hostage, but he says he never volunteered, as crew members and his family reported at the time. He says he was already a hostage when he struck a deal with the pirates — trading him for their leader, who was taken by the Maersk Alabama's crew.


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#7176 From: Bill Scanlon <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:56 pm
Subject: Ruby gets a "name" lift! 		catalina30ruby
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Hi,
 
Marie is a new member at WYC and a very lucky addition for us, she is a lovely person.
 
Marie owns her own "sign" company and a lot of her work is painting boat names.
 
In speaking with Marie this season we came to realize that Marie originally painted "Ruby" on our C30 20 years ago for a previous owner.  Obviously the name has stuck.
 
Over the past few days Marie has touched up Ruby's transom name and corrected my home-port, finally. 
 
Notice her nice work via the before & after photo's below!
 
Of course I highly recommend her!
 
Thanks Marie!

From: Marie Piacenza <mgsigns@...>
Subject: Ruby
To: "Bill Scanlon" <Catalina30Ruby@...>
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 10:03 AM

Hi Bill,

Here are the before and after pics of "Ruby". See you and Andrea on Saturday night.

Thanks !

Marie

Marie Piacenza
MG Signs
617-799-9529
www.mgboatsigns.com



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#7175 From: "jhenerberry" <jhenerberry@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: Liveaboard Boat For Sale 		jhenerberry
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Ahmet,
Thanks for the compliment.  As you well know the beauty comes from hours and
hours of hard labor (that I thoroughly enjoy).  And, I can say that the beauty
here is far more than skin deep.

Thanks also for the welcome to the Liveabord gorup.  I will take your advice and
post there too.

Jim

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> Wow, This is an absolutely beautiful boat.
> Welcome to the Boston Liveaboards by the way.
> Feel free to post this over there too.
>
> Ahmet

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#7174 From: "Ahmet" <SailNomad@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Liveaboard Boat For Sale 		aslan_toots
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Wow, This is an absolutely beautiful boat.
Welcome to the Boston Liveaboards by the way.
Feel free to post this over there too.

Ahmet


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Subject: [MassBaySailors] Liveaboard Boat For Sale


> After 25 years of dreaming about it, I finally realized my dream and just
> completed my first year of full time living aboard.
>
> There are two of us aboard a vintage Contest 33, which I have upgraded
> like crazy over the last six years so she is warm and cozy below and set
> up for efficient, safe, and fast (well as fast as she's ever gonna go)
> sailing on deck.
>
> We are definitely comitted to staying aboard and love our boat, but we
> made the mistake of attending the Annapolis show and caught the 40 footer
> disease.
>
> My dream boat is a Passport 40 and I'm ready to leap.  Only thing is, my
> down payment is all tied up in the 33.  So, if you know of anyone looking
> for a solid boat that has ALL the bells and whistles already attached and
> working, I'd welcome an introduction.  And if you just like looking at
> pretty boats with beautiful ribbon stripe mahogany interiors, take a look
> at my listing on SailboatListing.com:
>
> http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/15220
>
> I'll only add that she is a VERY comfortable boat for one person to live
> on (diesel fired hydronic heating keeps us warmer than anywhere I've lived
> on shore), but, even though we like each other a LOT, she's beginning to
> feel a little tight for two.  And, while not the cheapest boat on the
> market in her size range, with all that gear already installed, she is a
> bargain.  Oh, and if you aren't planning on living aboard, I could
> certainly take some of the stuff with me and reflect that on the price.
>
> Thanks for any help you can provide!!!
>
> Jim Henerberry
> Contest 33    Tramontana
> Currently berthed:  Pickering Wharf, Salem
>
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#7173 From: "Dan Gingras" <dgingras@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:35 pm
Subject: RE: Local speakers for Yacht Club??? 		captdang
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Thanks.   I can’t make this Thursday, but I may attend a future meeting.


Dan

 

 

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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:12 PM
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Dan you can look at the list of speakers from the Pelagic Sailing Club web site at

http://www.pelagicsailingclub.org/speakers.html

Better yet, come to your meeting this Thursday at the Savin Hill Yacht Club.  The meetings are free and open to all.

 

Craig

 

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Subject: [MassBaySailors] Local speakers for Yacht Club???

 

 

Does anyone have recommendations for New England speakers who could provide a program for our Yacht Club ???   We had Michael Tougias (Ten Hours till Dawn) last year and he was fantastic.    If anyone has recommendations I’d appreciate it.

 

Thanks


Dan

Capt. Dan Gingras

O461  LIONHEART

Portsmouth NH

www.dangingras.net

 

 

 

 


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#7172 From: "jhenerberry" <jhenerberry@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:29 pm
Subject: Liveaboard Boat For Sale 		jhenerberry
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After 25 years of dreaming about it, I finally realized my dream and just
completed my first year of full time living aboard.

There are two of us aboard a vintage Contest 33, which I have upgraded like
crazy over the last six years so she is warm and cozy below and set up for
efficient, safe, and fast (well as fast as she's ever gonna go) sailing on deck.

We are definitely comitted to staying aboard and love our boat, but we made the
mistake of attending the Annapolis show and caught the 40 footer disease.

My dream boat is a Passport 40 and I'm ready to leap.  Only thing is, my down
payment is all tied up in the 33.  So, if you know of anyone looking for a solid
boat that has ALL the bells and whistles already attached and working, I'd
welcome an introduction.  And if you just like looking at pretty boats with
beautiful ribbon stripe mahogany interiors, take a look at my listing on
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I'll only add that she is a VERY comfortable boat for one person to live on
(diesel fired hydronic heating keeps us warmer than anywhere I've lived on
shore), but, even though we like each other a LOT, she's beginning to feel a
little tight for two.  And, while not the cheapest boat on the market in her
size range, with all that gear already installed, she is a bargain.  Oh, and if
you aren't planning on living aboard, I could certainly take some of the stuff
with me and reflect that on the price.

Thanks for any help you can provide!!!

Jim Henerberry
Contest 33    Tramontana
Currently berthed:  Pickering Wharf, Salem

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#7170 From: "C Spear" <spear.c@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:12 am
Subject: RE: Local speakers for Yacht Club??? 		freespearits...
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Dan you can look at the list of speakers from the Pelagic Sailing Club web site at

http://www.pelagicsailingclub.org/speakers.html

Better yet, come to your meeting this Thursday at the Savin Hill Yacht Club.  The meetings are free and open to all.

 

Craig

 

From: MassBaySailors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MassBaySailors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Gingras
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To: MassBaySailors@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MassBaySailors] Local speakers for Yacht Club???

 

 

Does anyone have recommendations for New England speakers who could provide a program for our Yacht Club ???   We had Michael Tougias (Ten Hours till Dawn) last year and he was fantastic.    If anyone has recommendations I’d appreciate it.

 

Thanks


Dan

Capt. Dan Gingras

O461  LIONHEART

Portsmouth NH

www.dangingras.net

 

 

 

 


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