I'll put my 2 cents in as well. I've been marbling since 1976 and have always used carrageenan (for years the dried form which had to be boiled and strained...
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irisnevins
idn17
Aug 24, 2006 5:21 pm
Yes Dolores... I sure remember that dried seaweed! I still keep some in a jar as a souvenir! I once collected what looked like it on the beach in Maine and it...
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prettybird108
Aug 24, 2006 10:49 pm
... Yes, I made size with distilled water and with tap water, doesn't seem to make any difference. I'm beginning to wonder if it's the size thickness. If I...
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Gail Mackenzie
gail95585
Aug 24, 2006 11:10 pm
ah...if it isn't the water...but then, upon rereading I realized that you raised the Ph by adding ammonia, right? But, then did you add anything like white...
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carylhanc@...
Aug 25, 2006 12:19 am
... Hi! WAY too thick! The recipe calls for 3-1/2 TBSP per gallon, and 1 tsp ammonia (non-sudsy, clear) per gallon. If the size is too thick, it won't...
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Angela Drake
quiltinghome...
Aug 25, 2006 4:58 pm
Caroline, As much as I hate to say this, a lot of the beginning is spent in trial and error. Why it doesn't work the same for everybody is part of the mystery...
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Jake Benson
jemiljan
Aug 25, 2006 10:58 pm
Just a gentle reminder that I posted a detailed message about the different kinds of methyl cell a few years ago... Most marblers use various kinds of cold...
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dixongarrett
Aug 26, 2006 4:28 am
... <http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byform/mailing-lists/bookarts/2001/08/msg00059.ht\ ... postings. ... and sold ... When it appeared that the cost of...
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hamburgerbuntpapier_de
hamburgerbun...
Aug 26, 2006 2:46 pm
The collector/researcher/marbler/artist Gisela Reschke of Hamburg is about to launch a big work about block printed paper. Several years ago she has been...
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Jake Benson
jemiljan
Aug 26, 2006 4:34 pm
That's funny Garrett. I mixed Turkish ribbon tragacanth, simply swelled in cold water, as it is prepared in Turkey. When mixed with carrgeenan, the two gels...
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Jake Benson
jemiljan
Aug 26, 2006 4:47 pm
Apparently several of us are having problems opening Kuo Tsai Wang's papers. I was able to extract this abstract out of the garbled symbols. If anyone can...
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irisnevins
idn17
Aug 26, 2006 6:26 pm
WOW...very nice book! ... From: hamburgerbuntpapier_de<mailto:studio@...> To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Marbling@yahoogroups.com> ...
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dixongarrett
Aug 27, 2006 1:19 am
... that was ... Maybe ... using ... reaction? ... was a ... Yes, Jake - I use the powdered gum tragacanth readily available in the US. I have never had any...
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irisnevins
idn17
Aug 27, 2006 1:29 am
Garrett....I do all these patterns very easily and successfully on carrageenan alone. Who knows though maybe it would be better with some gum. Where do you...
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hamburgerbuntpapier_de
hamburgerbun...
Aug 27, 2006 8:05 am
Isn't it one of the most exciting features of decorated paper that what works for one person may be very far removed from working for another? As it looks to...
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irisnevins
idn17
Aug 27, 2006 12:18 pm
So much in marbling does not work that we can become set in our ways. I know carrageenan well, in many kinds or temperatures, humidity, geographic locations,...
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dixongarrett
Aug 27, 2006 5:05 pm
I appreciate the discussion and the interest. Susanne is right, we all develop our decorated paper styles and techniques as our local conditions demand or as...
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irisnevins@...
idn17
Aug 27, 2006 8:14 pm
ThanksGarrett,,,,very informative. I never got gall build up, alum sometimes though. iris nevins ... From: dixongarrett gdixon@... Date: Sun, 27 Aug...
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irisnevins
idn17
Aug 28, 2006 1:43 pm
Garrett... doesn't the borax mess your size up? It makes my lines less clear. With all kinds of paints. Why do you use it, for PH or do the materials work...
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irisnevins
idn17
Aug 28, 2006 1:43 pm
PS.... can you toss the gum into the blender with the carrageenan? Does the gum dissolve right away in the hot water or do you have to wait? thanks iris ... ...
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G. Dixon
dixongarrett
Aug 29, 2006 12:56 am
It dissolves in the hot water with blending, much like carrageenan - perhaps a little easier because the amount is so small. If you make your carrageenan with...
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G. Dixon
dixongarrett
Aug 30, 2006 1:50 am
Iris, When I started marbling I used Anne Chambers book as my starting point and she advised one heaping teaspoonful (about 6-7 grams) of borax for 3 liters of...
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irisnevins
idn17
Aug 30, 2006 1:12 pm
Thanks Garrett ....I just make it fresh. I find nothing more depressing than starting a morning with filthy size, I always get bottom residue, I do about...
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Eric Alstrom, GBW Pub...
webalstrom
Aug 30, 2006 2:42 pm
Greetings Marbling Listserv! Guild Of Book Workers Celebrates 100 Years! STILL TIME TO REGISTER REGISTRATION CLOSES SEPTEMBER 12 There is still space available...
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Stoffeez@...
stoffees
Aug 31, 2006 4:57 am
Galen Berry, a nationally known "Marbler" will be teaching "Marbling on Paper and Fabric" in Manhattan this October. This is a one day workshop - Beginner...
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Jake Benson
jemiljan
Aug 31, 2006 4:30 pm
Thanks Garret and Iris, Now I see that I mixed far too much trag in my mix- a full 50% 50% mix. Hence the "stringy" results. I have wonderd whether using a...
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irisnevins
idn17
Aug 31, 2006 4:40 pm
I am so tired of experimenting! I will likely try the mix at some point, but not yet....! thanks irsi ... From: Jake Benson<mailto:jemiljan@...> To:...
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Jake Benson
jemiljan
Sep 2, 2006 1:00 pm
A little inspiration http://www-us.flickr.com/photos/41707669@N00/225607825/...
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leech541@...
Sep 6, 2006 4:51 am
Thanks Jake! Indeed, a puddle in New Mexico is almost as rare as ice at the equator. After a long drought and scary fire season earlier this summer, in August...
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Thomas D' Aquin
floatingoilc...
Sep 7, 2006 6:52 pm
dear mr leech just read the wonderful messafe you postd to the marbling group. you mentioned how you liked concentric circles. since most of my marblings...
