Hi,
My name is flowers, or at least thats what I go by online and off.
No, my mom didn't name me flowers, my sons named me flowergurl4eva,
because of my garden. I like paper and anything that has to do with
paper arts. Have taken one marbling class and found it to be
relaxing. I particularly like the Suminagashi, and would eventually
like to learn some of the styles I see. I am quite fascinated by the
Peacock effect in marbling, and one day I hope to be able to learn how
that is done.
My question is about ink. I have read that floating ink on water the
best ink to use is Pelikan brand. Is this a fact? What I don't know
is if I should dilute this in any way. Can someone advise me on this
please? I tried Higgins, speedball, and a few other inks. They
actually looked like they were twirling in the water and then the ink
sunk.
Thanks,
flowers
Hi flowers,
Can you get sumi ink? I've tried Pelikan and it worked, sometimes, but sumi was
the most consistent for me. Also, if your ink is sinking, you may need to
dilute it just a little or add a tiny bit of dispersant to the ink.
Lucinda
Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:18:48 -0000
From: "flower_gurl4eva" <flowergurl4eva@...>
Subject: Newbie intro and question
Hi,
My name is flowers, or at least thats what I go by online and off.
No, my mom didn't name me flowers, my sons named me flowergurl4eva,
because of my garden. I like paper and anything that has to do with
paper arts. Have taken one marbling class and found it to be
relaxing. I particularly like the Suminagashi, and would eventually
like to learn some of the styles I see. I am quite fascinated by the
Peacock effect in marbling, and one day I hope to be able to learn how
that is done.
My question is about ink. I have read that floating ink on water the
best ink to use is Pelikan brand. Is this a fact? What I don't know
is if I should dilute this in any way. Can someone advise me on this
please? I tried Higgins, speedball, and a few other inks. They
actually looked like they were twirling in the water and then the ink
sunk.
Thanks,
flowers
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*Please forgive any cross-posting of the following announcement*
Gardens of the Imagination:
Traditions of Paper Marbling in Asia and the Islamic World
A free public presentation by Jake Benson
When: Friday October 14th at 7 -8 PM
Where: Pyramid Atlantic Arts Center,
8230 Georgia Avenue. Silver Spring, MD.
http://www.pyramidatlanticartcenter.org
Who should attend: This lecture is meant to raise awareness among
contemporary artists and craftspeople about the art of marbling. Yet it
will also be of great interest to Librarians, Curators, Scholars,
Conservators, and Collectors and others who encounter marbled papers
during the course of their work or research. This event will hopefully
serve to inspire further identification and publication of marbled
papers within public and private collections in the US and abroad. In
addition to scholars and curatorial staff, specialists in Asian and
Islamic art and culture are especially encouraged to attend.
General Description: Join marbler and historian Jake Benson for a
cross-cultural visual exploration of the art of marbling. Many people
are familiar with marbled designs from contemporary commercial
packaging, graphic design, professional matting, and bookbinding. Yet
comparatively few fully understand just how these curious designs are
created, much less familiar with the very rich history and wide variety
of specialized applications for marbled paper found in different
cultures.
The lecture will cover the latest research and insight into the
earliest forms of marbling in East Asia, including an overview of
suminagashi papers found in important Japanese manuscripts. Methods of
marbling in the Eastern Islamic world will be presented in detail,
concentrating on areas in Central Asia, South Asia, and Western Asia.
The lecture will not only look at variant methods of marbling, but also
the historical role of marbling in manuscript production.
A selection of datable works by famous calligraphers and poets written
directly over the surface of a marbled sheet will be shown. In
addition, a detailed examination of the incorporation of marbling into
painting and manuscript illumination and illustration will be offered.
Many of the images the will be presented have either not been published
or are not widely recognized. Finally, the relationship of these early
methods to the development of marbling in Europe and America will be
briefly covered.
On the following day, Saturday October 15th, Pyramid Atlantic will host
a daylong intensive workshop on traditional and contemporary forms of
Japanese suminagashi marbling taught by Mr. Benson. For directions to
the Pyramid Atlantic Arts Center, please follow the link to the
center’s web site listed at the top of this announcement. A full
description of the workshop has been posted on the Pyramid Atlantic web
site and can be viewed by clicking on the direct link below, and look
for the second workshop listed. A registration form in adobe PDF format
is available to download by clicking the link at the bottom of the
page.
http://www.pyramidatlanticartcenter.org/studio/papermaking.htm
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Hello Jake and break a leg! Just wish that I could attend.
Thanks for your letter. I know that I'll be pleased to have the
ANTIKA; not sure why there wasn't more interest except that most
people seem aimed at making "art" without much attention to the
history. And of course the preference for myth and a cult of
personality a la Hatib Effendi seems endemic to most humans.
I haven't gotten the BF Papers through library loan yet (not sure I
wanted to invest the $95/volume they run) so many thanks for your
summary and quotations. I'll be interested to learn the sources for
their remarks.
What threw me was the statement in ORIGINS... that Franklin had to
smuggle the marbled papers into France. I'm assuming that this had to
do with French import restrictions. But then how to explain the
Caslon expedition to France? I'm also trying to track the history of
Baskerville publications appearing in France.
I can't believe that, given the Enlightenment penchant for circular
letters, his innovations were not quickly learned of in France. But
who knows?
It did occur to me that having the paper marbled in England might be
seen as yet a further security measure but in that case why is the
paper itself not watermarked? The story just seems to have an awful
lot of inbuilt contradictions and holes.
Have you read FRANKLIN AND HIS PRESS AT PASSY? I have ordered it (the
reprint not the 1914 Grolier Club 1st) in hopes of answering some
questions.
In the meantime its a great mystery story!
How is all else?
Best to you Jake, Jim
James Tapley
Hand
Bookbinder
2077 13th Street
Sarasota FL 34237
941.366.8248
Good luck Jake....wish I could make it but can't,
iris nevins
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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 12:12 PM
Subject: [Marbling] ANNOUNCEMENT: Free Public Lecture on Paper Marbling
History at Pyramid Atlantic
*Please forgive any cross-posting of the following announcement*
Gardens of the Imagination:
Traditions of Paper Marbling in Asia and the Islamic World
A free public presentation by Jake Benson
When: Friday October 14th at 7 -8 PM
Where: Pyramid Atlantic Arts Center,
8230 Georgia Avenue. Silver Spring, MD.
http://www.pyramidatlanticartcenter.org<http://www.pyramidatlanticartcenter.org/\
>
Who should attend: This lecture is meant to raise awareness among
contemporary artists and craftspeople about the art of marbling. Yet it
will also be of great interest to Librarians, Curators, Scholars,
Conservators, and Collectors and others who encounter marbled papers
during the course of their work or research. This event will hopefully
serve to inspire further identification and publication of marbled
papers within public and private collections in the US and abroad. In
addition to scholars and curatorial staff, specialists in Asian and
Islamic art and culture are especially encouraged to attend.
General Description: Join marbler and historian Jake Benson for a
cross-cultural visual exploration of the art of marbling. Many people
are familiar with marbled designs from contemporary commercial
packaging, graphic design, professional matting, and bookbinding. Yet
comparatively few fully understand just how these curious designs are
created, much less familiar with the very rich history and wide variety
of specialized applications for marbled paper found in different
cultures.
The lecture will cover the latest research and insight into the
earliest forms of marbling in East Asia, including an overview of
suminagashi papers found in important Japanese manuscripts. Methods of
marbling in the Eastern Islamic world will be presented in detail,
concentrating on areas in Central Asia, South Asia, and Western Asia.
The lecture will not only look at variant methods of marbling, but also
the historical role of marbling in manuscript production.
A selection of datable works by famous calligraphers and poets written
directly over the surface of a marbled sheet will be shown. In
addition, a detailed examination of the incorporation of marbling into
painting and manuscript illumination and illustration will be offered.
Many of the images the will be presented have either not been published
or are not widely recognized. Finally, the relationship of these early
methods to the development of marbling in Europe and America will be
briefly covered.
On the following day, Saturday October 15th, Pyramid Atlantic will host
a daylong intensive workshop on traditional and contemporary forms of
Japanese suminagashi marbling taught by Mr. Benson. For directions to
the Pyramid Atlantic Arts Center, please follow the link to the
center's web site listed at the top of this announcement. A full
description of the workshop has been posted on the Pyramid Atlantic web
site and can be viewed by clicking on the direct link below, and look
for the second workshop listed. A registration form in adobe PDF format
is available to download by clicking the link at the bottom of the
page.
http://www.pyramidatlanticartcenter.org/studio/papermaking.htm<http://www.pyrami\
datlanticartcenter.org/studio/papermaking.htm>
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Jake, I spray only the side of the paper which is to be alumed and
marbled. Because the Indian cotton papers were so difficult, I gave
them a good coat of spray, but a light spraying would probably work
just as well. To be clear, I will mention again what I use. There is
no indication on the container about the contents- but I always spray
outside, and try not to breathe in any of the propellants, as they are
very toxic.
"Helmar brand Crystal Kote, Acid Free, Matt for drawings, artwork,
prints, photographs, documents. Permanent clear matt finish.
Protective, non-yellowing."
I would like to know how others manage to marble such papers with no
trouble.
Also, I usually lightly spray any marbled papers which I think may be
handled.
I remember Tom Leach's talk at the 2002 IMG, in which he showed us
papers from which sections had been rubbed out. This is very
convenient for touching up watercolour marbling - lightening unwanted
dark sections, clearing away wisps of colour from calligraphic voids,
opening up areas which will be later overmarbled etc. I wish I had
remembered this earlier, and retrieved some disasters. I guess the
same thing could be done with acrylic-marbled papers, but using
methylated spirits to dissolve unwanted paint.
I have been working hard lately at making papers for calligraphy,
hence the need for touching up some designs.
Would love to be a fly on the wall at your lectures. And to see your
examples of marbling used for calligraphy. Best regards, Joan
--- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Benson" <handbindery@b...> wrote:
> Joan thanks for telling us about this. We have a products here made
by DOW called
> Krylon. It is an acrylic resin very similar to a product called
B-72 that is used by
> conservators. It is dispersed in a fairly toxic cocktail of
solvents that you don't want to
> breathe for great lengths of time, if at all.
>
> Just to be clear, do you spray the upper side of the sheet that you
are aluming? or are you
> spraying the back side of the sheet? Both sides? It would have teh
effect of making the
> paper more impervious to water, preventing teh swelling of teh
fibers, and therefore the
> bubbles that you had trouble with.
>
> Someone said to me they were having problems with a new batch of
Arches text-wove,
> that is now seems thinner than before. I have had this trouble with
some types of papaers
> that had a little recycled content as well. Maybe a quick spray
would help to stabilize the
> sheet?
>
> thanks joan!
>
>
> --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, "sixshort" <joan@m...> wrote:
> > Oops! I made a very bad mistake, saying that I use repositioning
> > spray for handmade papers! That would make a terrible mess. I meant
> > to say an artists' fixative matt spray, which lightly seals the
surface.
> >
> > The repositioning spray which has lodged in my brain is for attaching
> > masking paper before marbling. I have been using it for the past
> > week, and it has obviously addled my senses.
> >
> > Thanks for the comments, Monita. I haven't tried acrylics for my
> > papers - the acrylics available in Australia are not pleasant to work
> > with, except for fabric. Will keep it in mind next time I get my
> > acrylics out. Joan
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to thank and congratulate the group owners for starting this
wonderful list.
When checking the web site I noticed that there are now 500 members worldwide.
It
roughly averages to about 100 members per year.
It is my sincerest hope that this will lead to greater communcation among
marblers,
sharing discoveries in methods and techniques. Of course I also love the fact
that this has
become a venue for sharing historical infomration about marbling as well. So
many new
discoveries in recent years lead us to question and challenege a number of the
prevailing
assumptions that have been held about the art of marbling for decades.
Hopefully we will be able to recruit new members from countries that have their
own
marbling traditions such as India, Iran, and Central Asia. In time other parts
of the world
may become etter represented. May our numbers increase in the years to come!
Jake Benson
Thanx Jake! And to John--who co-moderates here!
Jill--list mom
Ottawa
----- Original Message -----
From: Jake Benson
To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 10:48 AM
Subject: [Marbling] 500th member!
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to thank and congratulate the group owners for starting this
wonderful list.
When checking the web site I noticed that there are now 500 members worldwide.
It
roughly averages to about 100 members per year.
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Note: the following has been forwarded from the MESA graduate student
list.
Jake Benson
The second international Symposium on the history of printing and
publishing in the languages and countries of the Middle-East will take
place at the Bibliothèque nationale de France, Paris (2-4 november
2005).
The updated programme, the abstracts of the presentations, practical
information as well as a registration form may be found on
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/colloque.imprimes.mo/
Attendance is free; however registration is recommended in order to
receive any further
information.
Sara Yontan Musnik
Local organiser
Bibliothèque nationale de France
colloque.imprimes-mo@...
sara.yontan@...
First, it was very exciting to read that the marbling
group is up to 500 members...WOW!
For those of you with "Fiber Fever" I wanted to let
you know that I am teaching a 1 week class at Campbell
Folk School in Brasstown, NC January 15-21, 2006.
Though it is listed under "advanced" classes it is for
anyone. www.folkschool.org or 1-800-FOLK SCH
Class Description from the catalog:
"Color Explosion: Dyeing Fabrics to Marble"
Brighten winter with a garden of color in a class
which provides an excellent introduction to the nature
of color. For one full and fascinating day we'll dye
ordinary cotton and/or silk in a spectrum of
colors-analagous, complimentary, and single, double
and triple-dyed fabrics (57 colors). The rest of the
week will be devoted to material preparation and
pattern development for marbling, a hydro-printing
process. One question will guide the week: "What
would happen if...?"
If you have questions contact me at
indigostone2@... or see samples of work at
www.indigostonestudio.com.
I hope you each have a great Autumn.
Best,
Laura Sims
Indigo Stone Studio
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Hey Laura,
That sounds like a great workshop. I was just sent this article that
came out a couple of months ago, over my newswire source. It's ALWAYS
nice to see marbling featured in the news
Learning it old school
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Folk arts thrive on rustic campus in North Carolina
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By STACY DOWNS
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The Kansas City Star
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/living/12370168.htm
Enjoy!
Jake
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Hello All,
I found this online version...and there is a whole chapter about marbling...
featuring 3 beautiful engravings.
CHAPTER XV......MARBLING
http://www.merrycoz.org/books/harper/HARPER.HTM
Enjoy,
Renato.
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Great article and website about Harpers! Thanks, Renato. I had not been aware of
this piece.
tom Leech
-----Original Message-----
From: Marbling@yahoogroups.com
To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 8 Oct 2005 12:08:03 -0000
Subject: [Marbling] Digest Number 991
There is 1 message in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. The Harper Establishment; or, How the Story Books are Made, by Jacob
Abbott (1855)
From: "renatocrepaldi808" <renatocrepaldi808@...>
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 1
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 18:13:22 -0300
From: "renatocrepaldi808" <renatocrepaldi808@...>
Subject: The Harper Establishment; or, How the Story Books are Made, by Jacob
Abbott (1855)
Hello All,
I found this online version...and there is a whole chapter about marbling...
featuring 3 beautiful engravings.
CHAPTER XV......MARBLING
http://www.merrycoz.org/books/harper/HARPER.HTM
Enjoy,
Renato.
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¡Bienvenidas artistas Sudamericanas!
¡Es un placer el tenerlas aquí! Por favor siéntanse
bienvenidas y como en su propia casa. Si ustedes quieren escribir
en español por favor no se detengan; hay otras personas en
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Por favor suban sus obras de arte al sito en Yahoo,
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esta lista e invitarlas a que sigan contribuyendo a la misma
con todos esos excelentes trabajos.
¡Gracias!
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I have receieved a request to join the list--BUT--What is the person saying?
Thanx
Jill-list mom
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Comment from user:
Ich Intresiere mich sehr an dieser Kunstart.
Da der Ebrukunst aus meiner Heimatland stammt
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User is "very interested in this art form because marbling originates
in my homeland"
Is user Turkish? They use the word EBRU for "marbling".
Babel Fish Translation
James Tapley
Hand
Bookbinder
2077 13th Street
Sarasota FL 34237
941.366.8248
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I don't know?! At any rate--I'll go and sign them in!
Much thanx for your help
Jill
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From: james tapley
To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: [Marbling] **NEED Translation-German????**
User is "very interested in this art form because marbling originates
in my homeland"
Is user Turkish? They use the word EBRU for "marbling".
Babel Fish Translation
James Tapley
Hand
Bookbinder
2077 13th Street
Sarasota FL 34237
941.366.8248
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esteemed friends
november 5th at Boston Turkish Culture House
15 Boston Street MA
Ms.Elaine Koretsky will personally show her documentary film
Last Papermakers on the Silk Road
Through Jane Farmer's objective
Last papermakers from Khotan - a picture exhibition
also an exhibition of marbled Khotanese handmade mulberry papers
and encapsulated marbled calligraphy cut outs in Khotanese papers
marbling by dear Nelle Tresselt
the calligraphy cut outs and encapsulating by OZ
you are kindly invited if you are in the vicinity
cordially
OZ
merhaba oguz bey ben haluk kurkcuoglu maılınızı ıngılızcem olmadıgı ıcın
anlıyamadım turkce yazıp bana gonderırsenız sevınırım en azından neden
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manısada ıkamet edıyorum 6 yıldır ebruya hızmek verıyorum
messenger kullanıyorsanız msn adresım hkurkcuoglu_7@hotmail. ayrıca eserler ıcın
bır sıtemn var adresınde yaptıgım eserlerı gorebılırsınız
Oguzhan <uygur13@...> wrote:
esteemed friends
november 5th at Boston Turkish Culture House
15 Boston Street MA
Ms.Elaine Koretsky will personally show her documentary film
Last Papermakers on the Silk Road
Through Jane Farmer's objective
Last papermakers from Khotan - a picture exhibition
also an exhibition of marbled Khotanese handmade mulberry papers
and encapsulated marbled calligraphy cut outs in Khotanese papers
marbling by dear Nelle Tresselt
the calligraphy cut outs and encapsulating by OZ
you are kindly invited if you are in the vicinity
cordially
OZ
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Hello!
I am a new member of this group, sort of by accident. I am a
librarian by profession, book lover of course, and have always been a
great admirer of marbled arts, particularly papers. I catalog a great
many older books and my work is in the art books field.
I have been a lampwork glass bead hobbyis for years, using marbling
effect on many of my beads. I have found myself in the position of
being treated for cancer with chemotherapy (my prognosis is pretty
good) and I have decided to avoid the toxic fumes associated with
heating glass during this period. I feel creatively stymied as well
as need to fill some time while I cut way back on my work hours. I
thought I might turn to marbling or other paper arts and am looking
for a fairly simple approach to merely satisfy my own need to create,
rather than necessarily excel.
Is there a simple kit on the market, or a well layed out set of
start-up directions? I'd be happy working on a very small scale, even
using small papers for note cards, bookmarks, etc. I might even be
able to incorporate the beads I already have on hand.
Thanks!
Elise
Galen Berry, one of the best known marblers in the country has kits for sale
on his webpage.
_http://members.aol.com/marbling_ (http://members.aol.com/marbling)
He also has a fantastic book that he has written and illustrated, with step
by step instructions for many marbled patterns. You can purchase it from his
webpage.
He is a great teacher, I've been to many of his classes.
I hope his information helps you.
Thanks
Lorraine
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First off--Here's trusting that all interventions for your cancer treatment will
be completely successful!
Secondly--go through the files and such on the Yahoo site--to grab info for the
different marblers--and --here's hoping other pros on the list will offer you
help on equipment and materials!
Jill in Ottawa
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From: ljl63
To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:25 AM
Subject: [Marbling] New member looking for beginner's help
Hello!
I am a new member of this group, sort of by accident. I am a
librarian by profession, book lover of course, and have always been a
great admirer of marbled arts, particularly papers. I catalog a great
many older books and my work is in the art books field.
I have been a lampwork glass bead hobbyis for years, using marbling
effect on many of my beads. I have found myself in the position of
being treated for cancer with chemotherapy (my prognosis is pretty
good) and I have decided to avoid the toxic fumes associated with
heating glass during this period. I feel creatively stymied as well
as need to fill some time while I cut way back on my work hours. I
thought I might turn to marbling or other paper arts and am looking
for a fairly simple approach to merely satisfy my own need to create,
rather than necessarily excel.
Is there a simple kit on the market, or a well layed out set of
start-up directions? I'd be happy working on a very small scale, even
using small papers for note cards, bookmarks, etc. I might even be
able to incorporate the beads I already have on hand.
Thanks!
Elise
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Oz--How I WISH--I could just roll into wherever--and get to see some and all of
the various lectures and seminars people post about here!
Jill in Ottawa
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Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: [Marbling] BosTurk OZ reports ;
esteemed friends
november 5th at Boston Turkish Culture House
15 Boston Street MA
Ms.Elaine Koretsky will personally show her documentary film
Last Papermakers on the Silk Road
Through Jane Farmer's objective
Last papermakers from Khotan - a picture exhibition
also an exhibition of marbled Khotanese handmade mulberry papers
and encapsulated marbled calligraphy cut outs in Khotanese papers
marbling by dear Nelle Tresselt
the calligraphy cut outs and encapsulating by OZ
you are kindly invited if you are in the vicinity
cordially
OZ
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Dears ,
Can you say how much alun a have to use for marbling papers? I
tried many kinds of combination , but unfortenly I din^t had succefully.
I appreciate if you answer as soon as possible.
Sinceralys,...
Hi!
How long will the exhibition in Boston be available?
Caryl Hancock in Indianapolis, who just might have to plan a visit to her
daughter in Boston!
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Dear Judi Doud,
On my experience, I found that the size could be deteorated its
viscosity to low grade make paint-sinking, no spreading, poor
coloring specially in hot weather.
Ky Lee, Seoul Korea
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> > Hi....I am a beginning marbler of fabric. I have
> > mixed my carageenan size abt.five times up to now.
> > That was in the summer. I few days ago, I mixed it
> > like a did the other times, but I can.t get the paint
> > to spread. and much of it just sinks.
> >
> > I have looked in the two books I have, and tried
> > everything they suggested, which was thinning paint,
> > adding dispersant to paint, warming up size with warm
> > water. nothing helps.
> >
> > I guess I will start over, but I don't want to make
> > the same mistake again. Can anyone help me??
> >
> > I am working outside. Is it just too cold? I live in
> > a high desert climate where temperature goes from 20
> > in morning to 80 in afternoon.
> >
> > Thanks. I have enjoyed reading posts on this list.
> >
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> do think the temperature is your problem. My tray has a cold
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> no matter what order I lay the paints...nothing spread. So, for
years I ran
> an electric oil heater under that corner to solve the problem. I
never
> could get really good results being outside...too many variables.
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> Luck, Gail
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