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Re: [ManhattanLibertarians] LP position on selling drugs to teenagers

You'll probably get different answers from different
libertarians on that topic. My own opinion is that
"age of consent" laws are rather arbitrary and should
be abolished. Different people develop cognitively at
different rates and are capable of giving consent at
different ages. Certainly there are plenty of mature
teenagers who are as capable as they're ever going to
be to make their own decisions on whether to use
drugs, have sex, etc.

If you're going to charge someone with taking
advantage of a person, of whatever age, the burden
should be on the prosecution to prove that the
"victim" was not capable of consenting. Easy to prove
with a 4-year-old. Probably a lot harder to prove with
a 13-year-old.

Jim


--- Andrea Snell <snellthewise@...> wrote:

> I am aware that the LP believes all drugs should be
> legalized, but - as I understand it- the LP does not
> think minors should be able to by drugs.
> This begs the question: By Libertarian standards,
> should a drug dealer who sells drugs (or attempts to
> sell drugs) to children or teenagers go to prison?
> I would think the answer is yes, as the minor
> would be below the age of consent- but I have never
> heard the topic addressed.
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Fri May 2, 2008 6:30 pm

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I am aware that the LP believes all drugs should be legalized, but - as I understand it- the LP does not think minors should be able to by drugs. This begs the...
Andrea Snell
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May 2, 2008
6:16 pm

You'll probably get different answers from different libertarians on that topic. My own opinion is that "age of consent" laws are rather arbitrary and should ...
Jim Lesczynski
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May 2, 2008
6:30 pm

... You say that, but I bet if 5 years from now Alana was dating a 40 year old man - you would sing a different tune. ... So 5 years from now if Alana decides...
Andrea Snell
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May 2, 2008
7:02 pm

... If a 40-year-old were to date my 11-year-old daughter, he would get a funeral, not a trial. ... One, 11-year-old simply don't choose to have orgies or work...
Jim Lesczynski
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May 2, 2008
7:24 pm

... So it sounds as though you do not disagree with the concept of having an age of consent - just what that age should be. BTW, would a 40 year dating Alana...
Andrea Snell
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May 2, 2008
11:40 pm

Andrea: I am disappointed in you. Jim and I (and others) have been writing you for years. This is so basic it's laughable. Of course there's an age of consent...
mark axinn
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May 3, 2008
2:08 am

... hmmm. Well I feel condescended to. You act as though the goal is to bring me into lockstep with how you think. I do not think that you are always right...
Andrea Snell
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May 3, 2008
3:24 am

Andrea Snell <snellthewise@...> wrote: Your way makes parents potential tyrants. But parents care about their children. Government operatives do not....
gary popkin
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May 3, 2008
12:20 pm

Oops, Andrea, I don't mean to be condecending nor do I expect anyone to be lockstep with my thoughts. But this is pretty basic--parents teach morals, not the...
mark axinn
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May 3, 2008
1:32 pm

... Age of consent laws were never designed to control the behavior of children. They are designed to discourage the adult who would take advantage of a minor....
Andrea Snell
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May 3, 2008
2:19 pm

... Of course they're not the same but that's irrelevant to my argument. The point is that it's wrong to legislate purely moral decisions. If you're going to...
mark axinn
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May 3, 2008
7:49 pm

... No it is not. Just because the government is empowered to make some things crimes, for e.g. child molesting - it does not follow that it is then given...
Andrea Snell
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May 3, 2008
10:54 pm

... No, I do disagee with a standard age of consent, because I think that age would be different for each person depending on their development. ... Again, I...
Jim Lesczynski
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May 4, 2008
3:47 am

... But the hypothetical 40 year old dating Alana may just have been trying to figure out if she was mature enough for sex. Maybe he thinks she is. (I think...
Andrea Snell
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May 4, 2008
10:23 am

Andrea Snell wrote: So you [ jim ] simply arguing that the age of consent should be 15 or 16 rather than 18. Typical failure to read accurately on your part . ...
Bob Armstrong
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May 4, 2008
5:35 pm

Well, that is not right. If it is a situation when a reasonable person may not have discerned that the person was under 18, then there should be no conviction....
Andrea Snell
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May 4, 2008
6:18 pm

What? Why should a person selling a product to a willing buyer go to prison?????? Mark I am aware that the LP believes all drugs should be legalized, but - as...
mark axinn
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May 2, 2008
6:34 pm

... 1. Because drugs such as heroin and cocaine are both physically and psychologically addictive & can even cause death. 2. Teenagers have been found to be...
Andrea Snell
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May 2, 2008
6:49 pm
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