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Hello

I hope you are all well. If I could, could I ask for a tenative head count for
the party on Saturday. We would kind of like to know how many people to expect.

BTW: We HAVE MOVED so do not go to Chagrin Falls! Call me at 440-840-5625 or
email me at villagepainterguy@... if you need directions.

p.s. YES there will be Cheryl's famous rocket cookies at the party!

We look forward to hearing from you all.

Peace
Andrew and Cheryl.

Straight from the horse's mouth...

> From: Karl Baumann <kbaumann@...>
> Subject: Cold weather effects
> To: markrecktenwald@...
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 2:56 PM
> Hi Mark,
>
> The only effects you might experience would be a small
> decrease in performance. Unlike Black Powder motors,
> generally composite hobby motors are more forgiving
> during temperature extremes.
>
> To insure best performance, one might go to the trouble of
> keeping the motor warm (80+ degrees) just prior to
> launching the rocket.
>
> Building the motors at home or in a car prior to a launch
> far out weighs the small performance loss incurred on a
> cold field.
>
> Thanks for your support of our products and have a good
> Winter launch season.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Karl Baumann
> Director of Operations
> RCS RMC, Inc.
> Cedar City, Utah

Hello MTMA!

Well it is truly that time of year!

Cheryl and I would like to invite ALL MTMA members, rocket flyers and general
rocket nuts to our home for a holiday party.

The party is: THIS SATURDAY, December 5th from around 4:30pm to 10pm.You can
stop in anytime.

This is a casual get together to share stories of glory and failures from the
launch pad. There will be food and cookies for all to enjoy. We will also
provide beverages (no alcohol please).

If you wish, you can bring rocketry items to swap or sell! (I have some kits and
motors to sell or swap!).

IMPORTANT!!!

PLEASE PLEASE call me at 440-840-5625 to get directions to our home in
Middlefield OR EMAIL me at: villagepainterguy@....

We truly hope to see everybody. We as a club have been blessed with great
people, TWO great fields, and many many fun launches...lets celebrate.

Cheryl and I hope to hear from you all soon!

Clear skies, calm winds and a car full of rockets to all, and to all a good
flight.

Peace
Andrew and Cheryl.

I disagree with this.  If you prepare a motor before the launch and back the
closures off so the o-rings aren't under full
pressure this shouldn't be a problem.  I would rather assemble motors with warm
hands if I can.  I flown reloads that were
unsealed as much as 6 months beforehand with no problems.

At the last Skybusters launch I flew 4 motors assembled by the Harding TARC
Team.  I showed them how to assemble a reload, but
didn't use any grease or tighten the o-rings all the way, so I applied the
grease on the field.  (this really doesn't match this
scenario)

Pat

------- Original Message -------
From    : Bruce Levison[mailto:teflonrocketry1@...]
Sent    : 11/30/2009 11:29:17 PM
To      : MTMA@yahoogroups.com
Cc      :
Subject : RE: Re: [MTMA] Winter 2009-10 Schedule












       Mark,

I suggest we not allow any pre-assembled motors (reloads assembled off site) to
be flown at any of these events since o-rings can
shrink inside the motor assembly and leak (causing catastrophic failure) when
exposed to the lower temperatures that can occur at
these launches.

Bruce S. Levison, NAR #69055, L1
President, NAR Section #606,
The Mantua Township Missile Agency (MTMA)

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Mark Recktenwald <markrecktenwald@...> wrote:


From: Mark Recktenwald <markrecktenwald@...>
Subject: [MTMA] Winter 2009-10 Schedule
To: mtma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 8:59 PM




Based on the voting in the polls, the vast majority of those who took the time
to respond are in favor of holding two launches in
December (one at each field) and holding launches in Middlefield in January and
February 2010.

In the voting regarding the date of the Holiday Party, December 5 holds a one
vote lead over December 19. If you would like to
attend the party but haven't voted yet, please do so ASAP.

Regardless of the date of the party, we plan on launching in Middlefield on
December 12/13 to avoid the two weekends of deer gun
hunting season (December 5/6 and December 19/20). We will launch in Aurora on
December 5/6 or December 19/20, opposite the weekend
of the selected party date. Again, for the sake of our hosts, please take the
time to vote as soon as possible so they can plan
and prepare.

Early 2010 launches in Middlefield are currently planned for January 16/17 and
30/31, and February 13/14 and 27/28. You will note
  a deviation from our normal second and fourth weekend in January due to our
Section Meeting on the second Saturday, January 9,
and the fact that there are five Saturdays in January.

--
Mark Recktenwald
MTMA V.P./Advisor

The following MTMA poll is now closed.  Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: Thanks to the generousity of the Kleinhenz's we will be having
our second annual Christmas party at their house.  The festivities
will begin at 4PM.  Which of the two choices for dates will work
best for you?  You can choose either date or both.

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Saturday, December 5, 5 votes, 62.50%
- Saturday, December 19, 3 votes, 37.50%
- Neither, 0 votes, 0.00%

INDIVIDUAL VOTES
- Saturday, December 5
      - bjguzek@...
      - ferrantes2twins@...
      - MikeMNowak@...
      - markrecktenwald@...
      - tedschaetzle@...
- Saturday, December 19
      - teflonrocketry1@...
      - rocketmom106@...
      - markrecktenwald@...
- Neither


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Based on the voting in the polls, the vast majority of those who took the time
to respond are in favor of holding two launches in December (one at each field)
and holding launches in Middlefield in January and February 2010.

In the voting regarding the date of the Holiday Party, December 5 holds a one
vote lead over December 19. If you would like to attend the party but haven't
voted yet, please do so ASAP.

Regardless of the date of the party, we plan on launching in Middlefield on
December 12/13 to avoid the two weekends of deer gun hunting season (December
5/6 and December 19/20). We will launch in Aurora on December 5/6 or December
19/20, opposite the weekend of the selected party date. Again, for the sake of
our hosts, please take the time to vote as soon as possible so they can plan and
prepare.

Early 2010 launches in Middlefield are currently planned for January 16/17 and
30/31, and February 13/14 and 27/28. You will note a deviation from our normal
second and fourth weekend in January due to our Section Meeting on the second
Saturday, January 9, and the fact that there are five Saturdays in January.

--
Mark Recktenwald
MTMA V.P./Advisor

The following MTMA poll is now closed.  Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: In 2009, we have two approved weekends at the Harmon Flying Field
in Aurora (December 12, 13, 19 & 20). Should we move the December launch to
Middlefield, or should we hold TWO launches in December, weather permitting, one
in Aurora and one in Middlefield? (Please vote before November 28.)

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Hold one December launch in Aurora, 1 votes, 7.69%
- Hold one December launch in Middlefield, 2 votes, 15.38%
- Hold one December launch in Aurora and one in Middlefield, weather
permitting., 10 votes, 76.92%



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The following MTMA poll is now closed.  Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: Since 2002, we have refrained from launching in January and
February due to cold weather. Our new high power field in Middlefield is a farm
field that is only available between fall harvest and spring planting. To
maximize the number of high power launches, is anyone up for some cold-weather
launches? (Please vote before November 28.)

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Do not hold launches in Middlefield in January & February., 1 votes, 10.00%
- Hold launches in Middlefield in January & February, weather permitting., 9
votes, 90.00%



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Hello all.

Just a note about the field. I went out there today and it is dry enough but
bring boots and warm clothes.

If you do not have a four wheel drive..park behind the barn or to the side
(Please see the cool photos Mark posted on the web site). If you prep at your
car it will be a short walk to the pads, dont worry, it is a pretty walk :-) If
you do have four wheel drive and a good clearence with your car, be watchful as
you pull down. There are some small wet holes etc....GO SLOW!!!

Also, It is NOT a good idea to bring any trailers!! there is no place to turn
around that is good.

I hope we all have a great time! There is a good chance we will have plenty of
local folks watching too!

Rocket Roll!
Andrew
President: M.A.G. (Mennonite Aerospace Group):-)

Happy Thanksgiving to All!

The weather forecast looks great for a Saturday launch at the new O'Reilly Field
on Hosmer Road in Middlefield:
http://www.mtmarocketry.org/hosmer.htm

Notification has been made to the FAA, so our new waiver will be in effect with
a maximum altitude of 3,700 feet AGL.

Temperatures should be rising through the low 40s throughout the day under
partly sunny skies with southwest winds at 10 gusting to 14 mph.

Andrew just checked the field and it is relatively dry!

Please check out the pictures on the page linked above for a view of driveway
and parking area on the gravel behind the barn.

See you there!

--
Mark Recktenwald
MTMA V.P./Advisor

Wind, Rain, Cold--OH MY!

Saturday doesn't look much better, but things could change. Saturday or
Sunday--we'll make that decision Friday morning.

I hope you all have a safe and happy Thanksgiving. Eat too much!

--
Mark Recktenwald
MTMA V.P./Advisor

I know it is WAY too early to be certain, but the weather forecasts for this
weekend all point to Sunday as the best day.

Stay tuned for updates. A "GO/No-Go message" regarding a Friday launch may be
posted as early as Wednesday, but no later than early Friday morning.

This launch will be in Middlefield.

--
Mark Recktenwald
MTMA V.P./Advisor

Mike Nowak: Well done Sir! Another great newsletter.

Mark

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Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
MTMA group:

Thanks to the generousity of the Kleinhenz's we will be having
our second annual Christmas party at their house.  The festivities
will begin at 4PM.  Which of the two choices for dates will work
best for you?

   o Saturday, December 5
   o Saturday, December 19
   o Neither


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MTMA/surveys?id=2924655

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
MTMA group:

Since 2002, we have refrained from launching in January and February due to cold
weather. Our new high power field in Middlefield is a farm field that is only
available between fall harvest and spring planting. To maximize the number of
high power launches, is anyone up for some cold-weather launches? (Please vote
before November 28.)

   o Hold launches in Middlefield in January & February, weather permitting.
   o Do not hold launches in Middlefield in January & February.


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MTMA/surveys?id=2923257

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web site listed above.

Thanks!

I have posted two new polls to the MTMA Yahoo Group.

Please review these polls and vote as soon as you can. We need to notify the
Geauga County Airport of our schedule. Although we have our annual Section
Meeting in January, I would like to let the folks at the airport know about our
schedule for the next few months as early as possible.

--
Mark Recktenwald
MTMA V.P./Advisor

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
MTMA group:

In 2009, we have two approved weekends at the Harmon Flying Field in Aurora
(December 12, 13, 19 & 20). Should we move the December launch to Middlefield,
or should we hold TWO launches in December, weather permitting, one in Aurora
and one in Middlefield? (Please vote before November 28.)

   o Hold one December launch in Aurora
   o Hold one December launch in Middlefield
   o Hold one December launch in Aurora and one in Middlefield, weather
permitting.


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Thanks!

Bruce and I just received an electronic copy of our APPROVED waiver from the FAA
for the O'Reilly Field on Hosmer Road in Middlefield! As requested, the
authorized maximum altitude is 3,700 feet AGL.

Our Thanksgiving weekend launch will be held at the O'Reilly Field:
http://www.mtmarocketry.org/hosmer.htm

Kudos to the FAA staff at the Cleveland ARTCC in Oberlin and the Central Service
Center in Fort Worth, TX for working with us and the Geauga County Airport to
make this happen.

--
Mark Recktenwald
MTMA V.P./Advisor

MTMA,

The FAA waiver for a high power launch at the O'Reilly field on Hosmer road has
not been approved. This means that we are moving launch to our regular field,
the Harmon Flying Field at 619 Bartlett Road in Aurora, OH on Saturday, November
14 from around 10:00am, until the range closes at 3:00pm.

The weather forecast for Saturday 11/14/09 is; partly sunny (cloud base over
12,000 feet AGL), warming from 49 degrees to a high near 61 in the afternoon,
winds from the south southeast, at 6 mph to 8 mph and turning more from the
southerly in the afternoon. You might want to use streamer recovery to avoid the
rocket eating trees on the north side of the field.

Remember to bring a supply of MTMA 2009 flight cards.

Bruce S. Levison, NAR #69055, L1
President, NAR Section #606
The Mantua Township Missile Agency

MTMA's Ground Support Equipment for "large" Class 1--Model Rockets and Class
2--High-Power Rockets:
Two 1/4-inch Rods
One 3/8-inch Rod
One 1/2-inch Rod
One 1-inch square Rail with 1/4-inch T-Slots
Three Large Launch Pads

A handful of club members routinely bring out their own large pads with an
assortment of large diameter roads and at least one more 1-inch rail.

We are lacking in the area of a multi-pad controller for the big stuff.

-- 
Mark Recktenwald
MTMA V.P./Advisor

On Wed, 11/11/09, james kral <sterling@...> wrote:
> what size rods/rails do we have for mid/highpower launch pads