Hello,

I am not sure if I can send you atached pictures, but I am trying...

Its just a bit of quizbirding, in connection with the current larking-issues.
To be honest I had no clue about the solution for a while, I was completely
hopeless with.
For me it was very educational, I hope you will find it interesting too.

Regards, Lajos**********************************
Lajos Nemeth-Boka
GreenEye Ecotours & Images
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Howard

Nice photographs. Some features on this bird look a little bit odd, I
agree. But still: for me there can be no doubt it is a Eurasian
Skylark. The "off features" could also be partly due to the strong
light...

The most important feature to exclude both Short-toed and Oriental is
the primary projection. Both Short-toed and Oriental show an
extremely short primary projection only. Just to make sure the
primary projection on your bird is not an artifact, you can count the
tertials. All three are there. They are a little abraded, but not
dramatically so (this will be different in spring in a bird that
moves around the vegetation like a Skylark does...).

The breast of this bird is a bit confusing, as it is quite boldly
marked for a Skylark (especially the central breast). Also the malar
is rather distinct. The supercilium and the eyering look very white
on some pictures - an effect of the light?

But then again, your flight picture is very good to have and shows
the typical white edges to the longish tail (far too long for
Woodlark and Woodlark would have white tips to the rectrices). You
can also see the rather pure white trailing edge to the wing.

best,
Raffael

On Dec 13, 2009, at 8:25 AM, keith_betton wrote:
> Howard
>
> These photos are really interesting. As you say, it does not look
> like Eurasian Skylark or Oriental Skylark. On first looking at
> these photos I thought it was a Woodlark, but a few things appear
> to be wrong.
>
> The tail appears to be too long with too much white in the outer
> feathers. The supercilium does not go around the crown, the shape
> of the white above and around the eye is wrong and there is no
> black alula.
>
> Regards
>
> Keith
>
> --- In MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com, howardk <howardk@...> wrote:
> >
> > Have photographed a rather odd looking Skylark which I have been
> trying
> > to turn into all sorts of things would be grateful if people
> could pass
> > any comments on its ID
> > See
> > http://www.hawar-islands.com/blog/id_stub.php
> >
> > many thanks
> > Howard King
> >
>
>

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Howard

These photos are really interesting. As you say, it does not look like Eurasian
Skylark or Oriental Skylark. On first looking at these photos I thought it was a
Woodlark, but a few things appear to be wrong.

The tail appears to be too long with too much white in the outer feathers. The
supercilium does not go around the crown, the shape of the white above and
around the eye is wrong and there is no black alula.

Regards

Keith


--- In MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com, howardk <howardk@...> wrote:
>
> Have photographed a rather odd looking Skylark which I have been trying
> to turn into all sorts of things would be grateful if people could pass
> any comments on its ID
> See
> http://www.hawar-islands.com/blog/id_stub.php
>
> many thanks
> Howard King
>

Have photographed a rather odd looking Skylark which I have been trying
to turn into all sorts of things would be grateful if people could pass
any comments on its ID
See
http://www.hawar-islands.com/blog/id_stub.php

many thanks
Howard King

Dear all

White Stork today Friday passing a cross the southern region of Syria = 9

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Hi All,

on the occasion of an opportunity to visit the (notoriuosly under-birded?!)
remaining Turkmen  "zapovedniki" and State Reserves (Syunt-Khasardag, Kopetdag,
Badkhyz, Kugitang, Amudarja river valley etc.) next year I would be VERY
interested in any exchange of recent knowledge and experience - if possible from
the post-USSR time or, even better, from the post-"Turkmenbashi"-time.

Regards,

Asmus Schröter

Ciao Andrea,
 
Indeed, I did not copy/paste the link. Mea culpa. Here it is the web page:
 
www.worldbirds.org
 
And the direct link to North African Database:
 
http://www.worldbirds.org/v3/northafrica.php?c=2
 
Thank you for fed back !
 
Steve
 

 


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Contact person of OSME in Egypt  www.osme.org

Nature Conservation Egypt  www.ncegypt.org
 

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From: Andrea Tarozzi <capo@...>
Subject: Re: Nort Africa Birds database
To: "M.Istvan" <idegenvezeto@...>
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 8:13 PM


ciao,
It seeems in your message there is no web page addess for this database!
For example, where noe 'd register exactly??
let us konw, bye

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Dear all

I  am very glad to invite you  all to my  lecture:
In  SYRIA - Dara’a cultural center on December    14- 2009 at 05 .00 PM –(local
time) under  title :  EFFECT  OF GLOBAL WARMING ON THE  BIRDS

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Dear Friends,
 
Since a while the Nort Africa Birds database is functional and it waits only
your data inputs.
North Africa Birds is an Internet-based spatial database about birds, their
science and their distribution, that allows users from anywhere in the world to
input and query bird data.The system provides the facility to download data into
Excel and analyse them for personal requirements.
This database has  been developed by Birdlife International in the past year. I
have been working on the checklist of Egypt in collaboration with Ian Fisher 
but we still have to add a few  recently splited or  recent recorded species in
Egypt. Very few should be removed, as it turns out to be misidentified species
(eg. Cinamon-brested Bunting- Emberiza tahapisi). 
I hope very soon, as the EORC becames functional this month, I will make the
required corections.
 
I hope in the near future, with your help (observations and comments) can be
improved.
It take a minute to register, than your records  can be uploaded .
 
Your efforts are much apreciated.
 
Best regards,
Steve
 
 
 


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Dear Birding Friends,

I have started to complete a map of the birding pelagic departure
cities of the world. In the following short link you can see the map
which is far not complete but gives you an idea. http://href.hu/x/asru

The target is to add every cities where birding pelagic departs and
also some information about the birds to be expected seasonally. This
cannot be complete without your support so should you have any
information about a harbor or port, where cruises or fishing boats are
departing, please let me know and I add to the map immediately. If
possible contact details would be helpful to add.

Thanks for those already collaborated.

Kind regards, Szimi
_______________
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Hungary
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Dear all

I  am very glad to invite you  all to my  lecture:
In  SYRIA - Dara’a cultural center on December    14- 2009 at 05 .00 PM –(local
time) under  title :  EFFECT  OF GLOBAL WARMING ON THE  BIRDS

Through projector photos.
Thanks - Yousef


  A project for Recording the birds in southern region of SYRIA (Dara'a & Sweida
& Qunaitra ).
Tel: +963944798034
Tel&fax: +96315248387
E-mail: dqrz@...
  Syria – Dara'a – Mseefrh P.O.BOX \ 1 \
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Member of Global Owl Project


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Thanks for the quick responses and for the crediting me with powers to produce
Hypocolius in Bahrain! Sadly it won't work although I'd love to be in Bahrain
sometime so I'll ask at work!

I haven't seen them before and that includes three quiet evening on the hill at
Ghantoot in UAE, but I know many of you see them in small groups so a flock of
so many seemed extraordinary and way beyond my expectations. I'd have settled
for one.

Graham

--- In MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com, <ArabianBirds@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was at the Golden Tulip hotel near the Intercontinental last February (at
the beginning and end of the month) and I saw Hypocolius each day in the date
palms and other bushes nearby.  But only up to 14.  They are quite regular near
Riyadh and elsewhere in central Saudi Arabia.
>
> Mike Jennings
> Coordinator:  Atlas of the Breeding Birds of Arabia
> and Editor of the Phoenix  newsletter (ISSN 0268-487X)
> Warners Farm House, Warners Drove,
> Somersham, Cambridgeshire, PE28 3WD, UK.
> Tel/Fax 01487 841733 (Intl 0044 1487 841733)
> Email:  ArabianBirds@...
> Website: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/arabian.birds/
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Graham
>   To: MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:08 PM
>   Subject: [MEBirdNet] grey Hypocolius in Riyadh
>
>
>
>   Hi everyone.
>
>   My company sent me to Riyadh for 24 hours 1st Dec. I arrived at my hotel The
Intercontinental in Downtown Riyadh and after checking in at 7.20am I went out
to the gardens to look for Black Bush Robin which would be a first for me.
>
>   I was amazed to find the fruit trees, bushes and gardens at the main
entrance absolutely full of Grey hypocolius, also a life bird for me.
>
>   They evidentally had roosted there and we leaving, heading basically NW in
flocks of twenty or thirty. I saw at least 15 such flocks depart and there were
a few individuals around all day in the Golf Course grounds and some hotel
bushes.
>
>   I estimate there were AT LEAST 300 birds present at 07.30.
>
>   Sadly I wasn't around to check if they came back at night but i would be
surprised if they didn't. I left before dawn today (2nd Dec) so I couldn't see
them then either.
>
>   Incidentally I found at least six of the bush robing in the grounds plus all
three bulbuls, a sparrowhawk (female) a desert lesser whitethroat, two common
Whitethroats and several chiffchaffs.
>
>   I'd be pleased if anyone could respond if the hypocolius roost is not known.
>
>   Graham
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi,

I was at the Golden Tulip hotel near the Intercontinental last February (at the
beginning and end of the month) and I saw Hypocolius each day in the date palms
and other bushes nearby.  But only up to 14.  They are quite regular near Riyadh
and elsewhere in central Saudi Arabia.

Mike Jennings
Coordinator:  Atlas of the Breeding Birds of Arabia
and Editor of the Phoenix  newsletter (ISSN 0268-487X)
Warners Farm House, Warners Drove,
Somersham, Cambridgeshire, PE28 3WD, UK.
Tel/Fax 01487 841733 (Intl 0044 1487 841733)
Email:  ArabianBirds@...
Website: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/arabian.birds/



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Graham
   To: MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:08 PM
   Subject: [MEBirdNet] grey Hypocolius in Riyadh



   Hi everyone.

   My company sent me to Riyadh for 24 hours 1st Dec. I arrived at my hotel The
Intercontinental in Downtown Riyadh and after checking in at 7.20am I went out
to the gardens to look for Black Bush Robin which would be a first for me.

   I was amazed to find the fruit trees, bushes and gardens at the main entrance
absolutely full of Grey hypocolius, also a life bird for me.

   They evidentally had roosted there and we leaving, heading basically NW in
flocks of twenty or thirty. I saw at least 15 such flocks depart and there were
a few individuals around all day in the Golf Course grounds and some hotel
bushes.

   I estimate there were AT LEAST 300 birds present at 07.30.

   Sadly I wasn't around to check if they came back at night but i would be
surprised if they didn't. I left before dawn today (2nd Dec) so I couldn't see
them then either.

   Incidentally I found at least six of the bush robing in the grounds plus all
three bulbuls, a sparrowhawk (female) a desert lesser whitethroat, two common
Whitethroats and several chiffchaffs.

   I'd be pleased if anyone could respond if the hypocolius roost is not known.

   Graham





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Hi Graham
This is the first I have heard of a roost in Riyadh. I was over there ten days
ago in the Radison SAS and wasn't as fortunate as you. We are desperately trying
to find another roost here in Bahrain to make up for the loss of the Saar roost
site. I did manage to see three birds yesterday evening in an area that might
have potential and Howard King spotted a few birds in another site.
Is there any chance your company might send you over to Bahrain for 24 hours? We
could do with a bit of luck!!
Regards
Brendan Kavanagh

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Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland -
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From: MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Graham
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:09 PM
To: MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MEBirdNet] grey Hypocolius in Riyadh



Hi everyone.

My company sent me to Riyadh for 24 hours 1st Dec. I arrived at my hotel The
Intercontinental in Downtown Riyadh and after checking in at 7.20am I went out
to the gardens to look for Black Bush Robin which would be a first for me.

I was amazed to find the fruit trees, bushes and gardens at the main entrance
absolutely full of Grey hypocolius, also a life bird for me.

They evidentally had roosted there and we leaving, heading basically NW in
flocks of twenty or thirty. I saw at least 15 such flocks depart and there were
a few individuals around all day in the Golf Course grounds and some hotel
bushes.

I estimate there were AT LEAST 300 birds present at 07.30.

Sadly I wasn't around to check if they came back at night but i would be
surprised if they didn't. I left before dawn today (2nd Dec) so I couldn't see
them then either.

Incidentally I found at least six of the bush robing in the grounds plus all
three bulbuls, a sparrowhawk (female) a desert lesser whitethroat, two common
Whitethroats and several chiffchaffs.

I'd be pleased if anyone could respond if the hypocolius roost is not known.

Graham



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Hi everyone.

My company sent me to Riyadh for 24 hours 1st Dec. I arrived at my hotel The
Intercontinental in Downtown Riyadh and after checking in at 7.20am I went out
to the gardens to look for Black Bush Robin which would be a first for me.

I was amazed to find the fruit trees, bushes and gardens at the main entrance
absolutely full of Grey hypocolius, also a life bird for me.

They evidentally had roosted there and we leaving, heading basically NW in
flocks of twenty or thirty. I saw at least 15 such flocks depart and there were
a few individuals around all day in the Golf Course grounds and some hotel
bushes.

I estimate there were AT LEAST 300 birds present at 07.30.

Sadly I wasn't around to check if they came back at night but i would be
surprised if they didn't. I left before dawn today (2nd Dec) so I couldn't see
them then either.

Incidentally I found at least six of the bush robing in the grounds plus all
three bulbuls, a sparrowhawk (female) a desert lesser whitethroat, two common
Whitethroats and several chiffchaffs.

I'd be pleased if anyone could respond if the hypocolius roost is not known.

Graham

I am writing a paper on the status of Alexandrine Parakeet in Egypt. 
Does anyone have records of this species outside the following areas: 
Helliopolis, Maadi, Dokki and Zamalek?
 
Also, I am interested in knowing if any one has seen Ring-necked Parakeet in El
Fayoum or south of Sakara.
 
Thank you.  All information is much appreciated.
 
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A date for your diary. The annual OSME Summer Meeting & AGM will be held on 10
July 2010 at BTO headquarters, starting at 11.00. A provisional programme will
be circulated in the Spring.

Ian Harrison
Hon. Sec, OSME

Any one interested in providing an opinion on the attached photo of a road kill
owl found near Al Mukha, Yemen, October 2009. its quite big (note tip of my
boots in bottom of picture). There was no head. I think its an eagle owl.
Another large owl was disturbed from a nearby Dom Palm, but not much features
were seen except size and obvious ear tufts.

Sherif Baha El Din, PhD

Environmental Consultant
3 Abdala El Katib St,
Dokki, Cairo, Egypt.
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James,
 
Nice hearing from you out of the blue.  I will send your greetings on
to Sherif......We are both slowly getting back into the local birding scene
after an absence. I am currently birding Egypt through the internet...I am back
organizing tours and writing papers so I have to brush up on recent
developments.
 
I gather you have a lodge somewhere........where?  We have been to northern
Tanzania....Would love to go back again!  Hopefully, we can start traveling to
more "interesting locations" than Disney World when the kids are older.  
Right now, one of us is stuck at home while the other travels.  Sherif just got
back from Yeman.
 
Cheers!
 
Mindy
 
 


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From: James Wolstencroft <gonolek@...>
Subject: [MEBirdNet] Palestine Sunbird in Sharm El Sheikh
To: MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 4:43 AM


 



Hello there Mindy,
Very gald to see you about and active once again.
No Egytian stuff I'm afraid - but just to let you know we are stil in
Tanzania.
Love & 'happy' days (1991 Gulf War memories of Rock Bunting et al.) to
Sherrif; do remind him that there are lots of lizards here
Send me some guests please!
Fondly yours,
James




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Hello there Mindy,
Very gald to see you about and active once again.
No Egytian stuff I'm afraid - but just to let you know we are stil in
Tanzania.
Love & 'happy' days (1991 Gulf War memories of Rock Bunting et al.) to
Sherrif; do remind him that there are lots of lizards here
Send me some guests please!
Fondly yours,
James

+255 (0) 765-676-514

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Twitter: @gonolek






On 20 Nov 2009, at 23:10, Mindy Rosenzweig wrote:

> I just found a mention on a website about Palestine Sunbird in Sharm
> El Sheikh.  It seems that this species might have spread to this
> vicinity.  I was wondering if others have observed this species
> there regularly and where?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mindy Baha El Din
>
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I just found a mention on a website about Palestine Sunbird in Sharm El Sheikh. 
It seems that this species might have spread to this vicinity.  I was wondering
if others have observed this species there regularly and where?

Thanks!
 
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This is a real can of worms ! There is no consistency on this whatsoever
and some countries such as The Netherlands do not have a Category C
(non-naturalised populations of non-native birds)

I have unified the situation with my (that is the UK400 Club) version of
the ''Western Palearctic List'' but there is no 'official' Western P list as
such. Just a few anomalies

For example, Israel claims Black-hooded Parakeet on the back of 5 birds
whilst Tenerife which has several hundred does not count them

Portugal has thriving populations of Black-headed Weavers and
Yellow-crowned Bishops and counts them whilst Spain has even more and does  not

Sacred Ibises and Reeve's Pheasants thrive in certain areas of France but
are not counted other than on very restricted localities, such as an
isolated  island

In France also, there are as many Masked as Fischer's Lovebirds at large
(and hybrids) yet only one is added

And on and on the inconsistency goes.

Once any non-native has been recorded breeding in the wild for over 20
years and has a population in excess of 100 pairs it should be added in my
opinion. The trouble is however, what do you do when the population is no
longer  sustaining, as has what has happened with Lady Amherst's and Golden
Pheasants in  Britain? Do you then remove it from the list, even though the
reason may be  man-induced (such as in the case of the North American Ruddy Duck
eradication)

Best wishes

Lee


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Yes - the Goliath Heron and the Three-banded Plover - both much  desired.

When I was last in Abu Simbel, I hired a boat and we sailed 25 miles north
up the Nile and landed on some excellent bird-filled islands, one of which
held  a single flock of 69 African Skimmers - possibly the largest flock
recorded in  over 20 years. We also saw exceptional numbers of scarce species
such as  Yellow-billed Stork, Pink-backed Pelican and Greater Painted Snipe.

The status details of both Namaqua Dove, African Collared Dove and
Bonelli's Eagle are in desperate need of updating, as all field guides keep
publishing far from accurate data

Best wishes

Lee


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Given that my last inquiry worked out so well...
 
Would anyone happen to know what is the criteria for the "Western Palearctic"
concerning "naturalized introduced species"?  In  the US they have to be
breeding for 7 or 10 years to be considered to have sustainable breeding
populations.  Given the Turkish and other breeding populations, I would
assume that Alexandrine Parakeet is already included on the BWP list?
 
Thanks!
 
Mindy Baha El Din
 
 
 
 
 


--- On Thu, 19/11/09, LGREUK400@... <LGREUK400@...> wrote:


From: LGREUK400@... <LGREUK400@...>
Subject: [MEBirdNet] The non-naturalised status of Alexandrine Parakeet in
Israel
To: MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com
Cc: egyptcalling@...
Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 9:16 PM


 



Mindy

Hope you are well and birding is keeping you active

In recent years, I have seen up to 15 Alexandrine Parakeets amongst
Rose-ringed/ Ring-necked Parakeets in Tel Aviv but have never encountered them
anywhere else in Israel.

Furthermore, the non-naturalised population of Black-hooded Parakeet in
the Pardes Hannu area near Hadera (north of Tel Aviv) numbers five
individuals at best and are certainly not viable as a Category C population

Alexandrine Parakeets are most numerous in NW Turkey where the population
in Istanbul and parks in the suburbs now number at least 220 birds and is
increasing

As an aside, we have perhaps 15-18 Alexandrine Parakeets at large in
Britain, plus 77 Monk Parakeets and just under 14,000 Ring-necked Parakeets.
Sadly, the British government under its Defra banner have given carte blanche
permission for all and sundry to dispense of 'feral' parrots by adding them
to the 'pest' list and thus allowing eradication controls to take place in
some areas so these numbers will most likely fall.

All the very best

Lee G R Evans
British Birding Association
UK400 Club, Rare Birds Magazine, Ornithological Consultant and
Conservationist
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Lee,
 
Thanks so much! 
 
I have finally after all these years, I have started to bird again.  I am also
back to organizing birding tours in Egypt...but not guiding.  I am working with
my old birding Egypt team who have started a new company, Thebes  Tours
International.  The company rep-bird guide, AbdallaI is quite keen.   He is
helping to find birding sites.  Currently we are trying to figure out how to see
Three-banded Plover reliably in Aswan.  The good news is we got boats going
out again on Lake Nasser at Abu Simbel.  We have also negotiating access to
places where birders were experiencing problems.  In addition, we have a ground
agent in the Southern Red Sea who is helping to us with boats and desert safari
trips including to remote, previously inaccessable areas...Unfortunately, Elba
is not amoung them! 
 
My husband hassled...convinced me to start writing papers again, hence my
inquiry..........hopefully, you will see publications from me soon. 
 
Hope all is well with you....Let me know when you are next in Egypt..I am sure
you will be back for the Goliath.
 
Cheers!
 
Mindy
 
 
 


--- On Thu, 19/11/09, LGREUK400@... <LGREUK400@...> wrote:


From: LGREUK400@... <LGREUK400@...>
Subject: The non-naturalised status of Alexandrine Parakeet in Israel
To: MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com
Cc: egyptcalling@...
Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 9:16 PM



Mindy
 
Hope you are well and birding is keeping you active
 
In recent years, I have seen up to 15 Alexandrine Parakeets amongst
Rose-ringed/Ring-necked Parakeets in Tel Aviv but have never encountered them
anywhere else in Israel.
 
Furthermore, the non-naturalised population of Black-hooded Parakeet in
the Pardes Hannu area near Hadera (north of Tel Aviv) numbers five individuals
at best and are certainly not viable as a Category C population
 
Alexandrine Parakeets are most numerous in NW Turkey where the population in
Istanbul and parks in the suburbs now number at least 220 birds and is
increasing
 
As an aside, we have perhaps 15-18 Alexandrine Parakeets at large in Britain,
plus 77 Monk Parakeets and just under 14,000 Ring-necked Parakeets. Sadly, the
British government under its Defra banner have given carte blanche permission
for all and sundry to dispense of 'feral' parrots by adding them to the 'pest'
list and thus allowing eradication controls to take place in some areas so these
numbers will most likely fall.
 
All the very best
 

Lee G R Evans
British Birding Association
UK400 Club, Rare Birds Magazine, Ornithological Consultant and Conservationist
Discussion Forum/Email Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UK400Club/
Rare Bird Alert:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RareBirdAlertforBritainandIreland_UK400ClubBBA/
Email Address: LGREUK400@...
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HP6 6QL

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Mobile/Text Alerts: 07881 906629

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Mindy

Hope you are well and birding is keeping you active

In recent years, I have seen up to 15 Alexandrine Parakeets amongst
Rose-ringed/Ring-necked Parakeets in Tel Aviv but have never encountered them
anywhere else in Israel.

Furthermore, the non-naturalised population of Black-hooded Parakeet in
the Pardes Hannu area near Hadera (north of Tel Aviv) numbers five
individuals at best and are certainly not viable as a Category C  population

Alexandrine Parakeets are most numerous in NW Turkey where the population
in Istanbul and parks in the suburbs now number at least 220 birds and is
increasing

As an aside, we have perhaps 15-18 Alexandrine Parakeets at large in
Britain, plus 77 Monk Parakeets and just under 14,000 Ring-necked Parakeets.
Sadly, the British government under its Defra banner have given carte blanche
permission for all and sundry to dispense of 'feral' parrots by adding them
to  the 'pest' list and thus allowing eradication controls to take place in
some  areas so these numbers will most likely fall.

All the very best


Lee G R Evans
British Birding Association
UK400 Club,  Rare Birds Magazine, Ornithological Consultant and
Conservationist
Discussion  Forum/Email Group: _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UK400Club/_
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UK400Club/)
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Website Address: _www.uk400clubonline.co.uk_
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Little  Chalfont
Amersham
Buckinghamshire
England
HP6 6QL

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in Britain  & Ireland and elsewhere in the Western Palearctic and in North
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I would appreciate information on the current status is of Alexandrine
Parakeet in Israel.  I found it mentioned as an introduced species in Israel on
the internet.  I would like to know about its distribution, numbers,
habitats and if breeding is confirmed and where?  This is for a paper I am
iwriting. I would be pleased to acknowledge you or any references accordingly.
 
Thank you very much for all assistance.
 
Sincerely,
 
Mindy Baha El Din
 


--- On Sun, 15/11/09, M.Istvan <idegenvezeto@...> wrote:


From: M.Istvan <idegenvezeto@...>
Subject: Re: [MEBirdNet] ID help Warbler Sylvia spec. Wadi Gemal NP, Red Sea,
Egypt
To: MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 15 November, 2009, 5:42 AM


 



In April 2007 I have caught and ID, and ringed one Menetries warbler in Hurghada
( a second ringer, Arthur Niemczik from Gdansk University was present as
well).  most of the Sylvia species were ringed there (atriucapilla, curruca,
communis,crassirost ris, borin,bonelli, melanocephala, ruepelli) but mystacea
and melanothorax were caught only one time. Probably in the scrub on the sea
coast, or inside of the mountains more of them occure, but in the reed and in
the surrounding tamarix bushes is just an exceptional event to be caught.
 
 
Steve

Moldován István -  Ornithologist
 www.birdinginegypt. com

Contact person of OSME in Egypt  www.osme.org

Nature Conservation Egypt  www.ncegypt. org
 

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From: Mindy Rosenzweig <egyptcalling@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [MEBirdNet] ID help Warbler Sylvia spec. Wadi Gemal NP, Red Sea,
Egypt
To: MEBirdNet@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:28 PM

 

Mementries Warbler was formerly considered a rare winter visitor to Egypt. 
There are scattered records in the Eastern Desert.  Sherif found since good
numbers wintering at Gabel Elba, which lends support to the probablity of
seeing this species at Wadi Gemal.  
 
We also saw once a Red-breasted Flycatcher at Wadi Gamal.  
 
Mindy Baha El Din 

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Dick <dick.hoek@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Dick <dick.hoek@yahoo. com>
Subject: [MEBirdNet] ID help Warbler Sylvia spec. Wadi Gemal NP, Red Sea, Egypt
To: MEBirdNet@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 11:52 AM

 

On 30 October we (Mary Megalli and Dick Hoek) visited Wadi Gemal NP, south of
Marsa Alam along the Red Sea, Egypt.
Birding delivered a Red-breasted Flycatcher, many Redstarts and Chiffchaffs e.g.
but also a probably female or juvenile Warbler Sylvia spec., which we could not
identify. The most striking feature was the tail movements. It was not shy. I
added 5 pictures of the Warbler.
Please take a look at the new ID help-album and give your opinion.
Regards, Dick Hoek

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Dear all

OSME has received a copy of Mike Jennings' report on his Abba Survey No. 40
conducted in February 2009.  The title is: Wintering Birds in Northern Saudi
Arabia: February 2009 (ABBA Survey 40)

Mike has informed OSME that a PDF is available free to Phoenix subscribers. He
also has a few hard copies at £10 each plus postage.

Please contact him at either ArabianBirds@...

or

Warners Farm House
Warners Drove
Somersham
Cambridgeshire
PE28 3WD

Ian Harrison
MEBirdnet Moderator & Hon Sec, OSME

In April 2007 I have caught and ID, and ringed one Menetries warbler in Hurghada
( a second ringer, Arthur Niemczik from Gdansk University was present as
well).  most of the Sylvia species were ringed there (atriucapilla, curruca,
communis,crassirostris, borin,bonelli, melanocephala,ruepelli) but mystacea and
melanothorax were caught only one time. Probably in the scrub on the sea coast,
or inside of the mountains more of them occure, but in the reed and in the
surrounding tamarix bushes is just an exceptional event to be caught.
 
 
Steve




Moldován István -  Ornithologist
 www.birdinginegypt.com

Contact person of OSME in Egypt  www.osme.org

Nature Conservation Egypt  www.ncegypt.org
 

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Mindy Rosenzweig <egyptcalling@...> wr
From: Mindy Rosenzweig <egyptcalling@...>
Subject: Re: [MEBirdNet] ID help Warbler Sylvia spec. Wadi Gemal NP, Red Sea,
Egypt
To: MEBirdNet@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:28 PM



 



Mementries Warbler was formerly considered a rare winter visitor to Egypt. 
There are scattered records in the Eastern Desert.  Sherif found since good
numbers wintering at Gabel Elba, which lends support to the probablity of
seeing this species at Wadi Gemal.  
 
We also saw once a Red-breasted Flycatcher at Wadi Gamal.  
 
Mindy Baha El Din 

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Dick <dick.hoek@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Dick <dick.hoek@yahoo. com>
Subject: [MEBirdNet] ID help Warbler Sylvia spec. Wadi Gemal NP, Red Sea, Egypt
To: MEBirdNet@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 11:52 AM

 

On 30 October we (Mary Megalli and Dick Hoek) visited Wadi Gemal NP, south of
Marsa Alam along the Red Sea, Egypt.
Birding delivered a Red-breasted Flycatcher, many Redstarts and Chiffchaffs e.g.
but also a probably female or juvenile Warbler Sylvia spec., which we could not
identify. The most striking feature was the tail movements. It was not shy. I
added 5 pictures of the Warbler.
Please take a look at the new ID help-album and give your opinion.
Regards, Dick Hoek

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