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Re: [MEBirdNet] Re: House Crow eradicated from Socotra

Dear Norman (and others who might want to use this list for personal
fights rather than for information sharing and professional discussions),

Could you please stop spamming the list?


Thank you!

Regards,
Axel


At 15:57 08.07.2009 +0200, you wrote:


>Spot on Lee, they are self-invading! So when the next bunch comes
>along you can start again as after all the niche is vacant again.
>You mentioned a large number of offences by the crooks, weigh them
>one by one Lee and ask yourself is this really serious, are they
>really a serious danger for other wildlife and how many people died
>because of their infectious diseases?
>
>Very bad ducks them ruddies, serious sex-offenders, they rape
>white-head ducks and not just that they are American too!
>Cheers, Norman
>
>Lee Evans wrote: > I am trying to explain and perhaps justify why it
>should be
>necessary to control the Indian House Crow in areas where its
>appearance may have
>a serious affect on the resident bird populations there. As you are no
>doubt fully aware, I do not condone the killing or destruction of any species
>(for example, I am vehemently against the UK cull of Ruddy Ducks) but accept
>that in extreme circumstances (as in the case of splendens), culling may
>be the last resort. I do accept however that House Crows are self-invading
>other countries (rather than being directly non-naturalised) albeit their
>mode of arrival is man-provided (shipping vessels).
>
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>
>



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Spot on Lee, they are self-invading! So when the next bunch comes along you can start again as after all the niche is vacant again. You mentioned a large...
Norman D.van Swelm
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Jul 8, 2009
1:58 pm

Dear Norman (and others who might want to use this list for personal fights rather than for information sharing and professional discussions), Could you please...
Axel Braunlich
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Jul 8, 2009
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Axel! Whatever made you think that the discussions we have had on the eradication of House Crows have anything to do with personal fights? This is a serious...
Norman D.van Swelm
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Jul 8, 2009
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Hi there, It was just the perfect idea to eradicate House Crows from Socotra! Visit the place once and than imagine what those mass flocks could do over there,...
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Jul 9, 2009
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Lajos, I can well understand why people, when faced with a new invading species which is seen to be a threat to a rare or cherished species cq environment,...
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Jul 13, 2009
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The Spoonbill story is interesting, and shows that a positive outcome is possible. However, we only have to think of Mauritius, New Zealand, Hawai'i.....to see...
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Jul 13, 2009
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Ah Clive, yes I know, each case is different but à priori condemnation of predation is not necessary in my view, far from it in fact. Cheers, Norman Clive...
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Jul 14, 2009
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Norman, Agreed, but Sokotra is an island with a number of endemic forms. Clive 2009/7/14 Norman D.van Swelm <Norman.vanswelm@...> ... -- Dr C F Mann ...
Clive Mann
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I am aware of that Clive but there is no proof that the House Crows are a threat to their survival. There are more places within the House Crows' range where...
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Norman, do you agree with the eradication of Rats where they have got onto small islands (accidentally brought by ships) and are causing huge damage to native...
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Tony Morris asks me: >do you agree with the eradication of Rats where they have got onto small islands (accidentally brought by ships) and are causing huge...
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Jul 15, 2009
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Hi Norman, you wrapped up the answer, but I think it was yes to the rats, but you didn't tell me the moral difference between controlling rats and House Crows,...
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Hi Tony, As far as I know I never mentioned morals of any kind. My concerns lie in the scientific approach of these projects. Cheers, Norman Tony Morris wrote:...
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Jul 17, 2009
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It was really .. GOD JOB !   Mudhafar ... From: Keith Betton <keith_betton@...> Subject: [MEBirdNet] From Birdlife website : House Crow eradicated...
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