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#2112 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:16 am
Subject: HJR 192 and the fictitious national bankruptcy
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Bob,

The money issue is perhaps one of the most important to confront our
society, and to understand just the legal aspects of it requires a
considerable amount of study. To fully understand this issue and
participate in the legal debate about it, one must have a working
knowledge of economics as well as law. THE best legal treatise on this
issue is Edwin Vieira’s Pieces of Eight, a 1600+ page, two volume work
with thousands of footnotes. If you wish to read something less imposing
that is posted on the Net, the money issue brief I drafted is posted here:

http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/MONEYbrief.html

Since this is one of the most important issues, lots of people are
interested in it, but regrettably are unwilling to devote the time
necessary to understand it. There are distinct periods in the legal
history of this issue: the pre-Civil War era, the post-Civil War era,
the 1913 era when the FRS was created, the Great Depression era, and
then the events subsequent thereto. Those who have engaged in the
essential study of this issue thus become conversant with these
important facts and legal changes and can intelligently discuss the
issue. But, those who haven’t engaged in this study are pre-disposed to
believe every fairy tale they hear, even tho such has no factual or
legal proof. The popular patriot beliefs about HJR 192 falls into this
category of unfounded beliefs. Let me give you a rough explanation of
the error regarding this popular but baseless argument.

At the time this country was founded, the Piece of Eight, a Spanish
minted silver dollar, was the prevalent currency. The word dollar as
appears in Atr. 1, §9 and the 7th Amendment to the US Const means this
coin. The 1792 Coinage Act scientifically defined “dollar” in this
constitutional sense: 371.25 grains of pure silver. From a patriot
viewpoint, I believe that ALL patriots should accept this as the
definition of “dollar” and make this argument the basis for our
objections to the current monetary system that has been established to
defraud the American people.

There were minor legislative adjustments to the monetary system prior to
the War of Northern Aggression. But, a student of the money issue must
also understand the various decisions of the Supremes regarding the
“changes” in monetary law that happened during this period regarding
legal tender and the validity of both Northern and Southern paper
“money”. Furthermore, one must understand the “crime of 1874" that
created the “trade dollar”, and comprehend that this was the first
assault of the banking system on our specie based monetary system: bank
paper and credit are always at war with a specie-based monetary system.
After this assault, there was also the assault of the late 1890s that
claimed the creation of a “gold standard”. To fully understand these
events requires a good working knowledge of what was happening
internationally regarding the international medium of exchange.

In the 1920s, the constitutional dollar was still that established via
the 1792 Coinage Act, but a “gold standard” facade had been superimposed
thereon. From economic history, it is quite obvious that the banking
industry was planning at that time another assault on specie: it
expanded credit during the roaring ‘20s, then contracted it. In the
early ‘30s, the constitutional silver dollar was still the
constitutional monetary standard, but there was also that additional
unit of the gold standard, the gold coin. All HJR 192 did was legally
stop the operation of the “gold standard” in effect at that time. While
paying gold debts was the subject of HJR 192, it did nothing to the
constitutional standard, the silver dollar. After HJR 192, dollar debts
could still be paid via constitutional coin. But, the legal effect of
HJR 192 ended in 1977.

But if you wish to learn about the reasons for the enactment of HJR 192,
may I suggest you consider that old investigative technique, “follow the
money.” There were lots of obligations to pay gold debts in existence in
the early 1930s: private corporations, BANKS and many other types of
debtors. Preventing the payment of gold obligations clearly favored the
debtors of those obligations, to the detriment of their creditors. It
was these gold obligation debtors who were the primary beneficiaries of
HJR 192. The historical evidence shows that there were at least twice as
many private gold debtors as there were public, govt gold debtors. Thus
the primary beneficiaries of this legislation were the private gold
debtors, and may I suggest, altho I cannot offered definitive evidence,
that a large number of these beneficiaries were banks. If anything, HJR
192 was just another example of the political power in this country
favoring the “friends of paper money and credit.”

A more recent example of Congress favoring the banking/credit industry
in this country was last year’s bailout. We know that Congress dispensed
about 350 billion bux within months of the bailout, but may I ask why in
the hell did “Hanky Panky” Paulsen get 200 million of this amount?
Others have offered observations and comments about the bailout,
especially concerning Goldman Sachs, and I strongly encourage you to
read these articles:

The Great American Bubble Machine (7 parts)

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/29127316/the_great_american_bubble_ma\
chine

The Big Takeover (9 parts)

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/26793903/the_big_takeover.

The Dirty Dozen

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/26868968/the_dirty_dozen

What amazes me is that wild stories about HJR 192 are accepted by
ordinary Americans who clearly know nothing about the legal and factual
background for this issue. Having no knowledge about this issue, they
accept these wild stories, while those with a background and
understanding of both the relevant legal and factual events of this
period do not. Gurus like Roger Elvick have promoted the idea that HJR
192 “stole all our credit”, and based on this thesis, he has concocted
an argument that is best described as the “legal” justification for
stealing cars. Further, this Elvick argument became an important aspect
of his 1099-OID argument, on which people have been filing claims for
tax refunds that have absolutely no legal basis. My protests of “don’t
do that” were ignored and lots of people followed this bad “guru”
advice. Please take notice that DoJ is gearing up to prosecute lots of
people who were 1099-OID advocates.

Edwin has certainly read all of the debates of HJR 192 that are
published in the Congressional Record and I have read probably most of
them. Neither of us has reached the conclusion that HJR 192 was a
declaration of national bankruptcy. Edwin’s analysis of HJR 192 appears
in his Pieces of Eight, and I shortly discuss it in the above money
issue brief. If you wish to put some spin on HJR 192, then I suggest
that it was simply one of the steps of the banking industry in its war
against specie. By creating credit and convincing people to use it as a
medium of exchange, the bankers reap tremendous benefits. HJR 192 thus
represents one event where Congress was convinced that if it eventually
created a fiat monetary system, it would reap benefits identical to
those of the bankers. Surely, what Beardsley Ruml openly stated in 1946
was quietly mentioned to fed officials during the consideration of HJR 192.

To contend that there was some secret national bankruptcy hidden behind
HJR 192 requires some sort of proof, which you admit does not exist. Why
ignore facts, but believe something that cannot be proven?

Larry

#2111 From: Jon Roland <jon.roland@...>
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:59 pm
Subject: Celebrate Bill of Rights Day Dec. 15
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The anniversary of the effective date of ratification of the first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution, Dec. 15, 1791, has since been celebrated as Bill of Rights Day. It is worth reviewing how they came to be adopted. We have the Documentary History of the Bill of Rights — with all the important documents and steps in the adoption, together with commentary on it.

It is important to understand that for the Founders, the Bill of Rights (except for the $20 rule of the 7th Amendment) did not add to or change the meaning of the original Constitution. They were only clarifications of it (as would be the later 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments, except for their enforcement clauses). That provides an important clue to how to interpret the original Constitution, which was intended to be very literally and narrowly.
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#2110 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:34 am
Subject: Re: Liberty’s Hammer & Anvil radio show on Microeffect
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Microeffect Listeners,

On Saturday afternoon, Dec. 12, between 3 to 5 PM (Eastern), 2 to 4 PM
(Central), 1 to 3 PM (Mountain), Noon to 2 PM (Pacific), Liberty’s
Hammer & Anvil radio show (hosted by Larry Becraft and Tom Cryer) will
broadcast on the Microeffect Radio Network, and you may listen over the
Net here:

http://www.themicroeffect.com/listenlive.htm

Our guests for Sat’s show will be Don Casey, an expert on what is coming
at us like a freight-train: globalization. As a sample, look at this:

http://www.vimeo.com/7602634

We would like to hear your own comments about that event and any others
of interest. We invite your calls:

(208) 935-0094

Larry Becraft   (I forgot to change the date)

#2109 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: Liberty’s Hammer & Anvil radio show on Microeffect
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Microeffect Listeners,

On Saturday afternoon, Dec. 5, between 3 to 5 PM (Eastern), 2 to 4 PM
(Central), 1 to 3 PM (Mountain), Noon to 2 PM (Pacific), Liberty’s
Hammer & Anvil radio show (hosted by Larry Becraft and Tom Cryer) will
broadcast on the Microeffect Radio Network, and you may listen over the
Net here:

http://www.themicroeffect.com/listenlive.htm

Our guests for Sat’s show will be Don Casey, an expert on what is coming
at us like a freight-train: globalization. As a sample, look at this:

http://www.vimeo.com/7602634

We would like to hear your own comments about that event and any others
of interest. We invite your calls:

(208) 935-0094

Larry Becraft

#2108 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Wed Dec 9, 2009 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: TRUTH ATTACK SPECIAL--FOLLOW THE MONEY SERIES ON LWRN 12/14-18
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Dear Patriot:

The following Truth Attack newsletter is being sent to you courtesy of a member of the Truth Attack Coalition.  We encourage all patriots to support Truth Attack and its coalition members who are unified in our mutual goal—putting the government back in its box—one tentacle at a time!

TRUTH ATTACK!

NEWS FROM THE FRONT

December, 2009

 

Tom Cryer, CC&BW                 Pastor Joe Larson, Chaplain             Anne Nonamus, NFTF Editor

 

"It is a republic, Madam . . . if you can keep it." B. Franklin

 

TUNE IN FOR TRUTH ATTACK'S "FOLLOW THE MONEY" SPECIAL SERIES ON LIBERTY WORKS RADIO NETWORK THIS COMING WEEK

 

THE TRUTH ATTACK HOUR FEATURES WEEK-LONG FIVE PART SERIES WITH A SPECTACULAR LINE-UP OF GUESTS DECEMBER 14-18, 2009, 5-6 P.M. EASTERN!

SANDERS! BECRAFT! VIEIRA! GRIFFIN! LABORDE!

Have you been wondering why people are having such a hard time making ends meet although they're making more than they ever have?  Why people cannot buy or spend enough to prevent job losses?  Why you keep putting more and more into your retirement account but its value keeps going down, down, down? 

Where is our buying power going?  Who is getting it? 

LET'S FOLLOW THE MONEY AND FIND OUT!

Tune in to the Truth Attack Hour on LWRN during the week of December 14-18, Follow The Money Week.  All five days will be showcasing experts on our monetary and banking system and at the end you will understand why it is broken, who broke it, how and why they broke it, who is benefiting--who is losing and how to protect yourself and your hard-earned assets.

Host Tom Cryer will interview the nation's top money and banking experts.

MONDAY!!  Franklin Sanders, banking expert, on why bankers are banksters, the effects of fictional credit as money and loaning money into circulation;

TUESDAY!!  Larry Becraft, trial attorney and expert on taxation and economics, on what is money, the invisible tax and how to defeat it;

WEDNESDAY!!  Edwin Vieira, author of "Pieces of Eight" and the nations foremost authority on monetary history and law;

THURSDAY!!  G. Edward Griffin, author of the famous expose' on the Federal Reserve Bank, "The Creature From Jekyll Island"; and finally,

FRIDAY!!  Larry LaBorde, author of "Investing Without A Net", a precious metals investment expert who will tell you how you can protect your assets from the impending economic melt-down caused by our broken monetary system.

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#2107 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Sat Dec 5, 2009 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: Liberty’s Hammer & Anvil radio show on Microeffect
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Microeffect Listeners,

  On Saturday afternoon, Dec. 5, between 3 to 5 PM (Eastern), 2 to 4 PM
(Central), 1 to 3 PM (Mountain), Noon to 2 PM (Pacific), Liberty’s
Hammer & Anvil radio show (hosted by Larry Becraft and Tom Cryer) will
broadcast on the Microeffect Radio Network, and you may listen over the
Net here:

  http://www.themicroeffect.com/listenlive.htm

  Our guests for Sat’s show will be Dan Gonzales from Florida and Rick
Wos, Ill. Delegate to the We The People Continental Congress 2009,
recently concluded.

  We would like to hear your own comments about that event and any others
of interest. We invite your calls:

  (208) 935-0094

  Larry Becraft

#2106 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 10:12 pm
Subject: 28 USC 3002
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Darren,

Lots of people have gross misunderstandings about that definition of United States. Below is what I have posted on my website regarding that matter:

XXIV. 28 U.S.C. § 3002 (15)(A):

(15) "United States" means -
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity
of the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.

  Many contend that the above quote, a part of the Federal Debt Collection Procedures Act, means "the United States is a corporation." I must state that this is an erroneous construction of this particular law.

The Federal Debt Collection Procedures Act, 104 Stat. 4933, applies to the entirety of the United States government. Virtually everyone knows that the federal government has lots of agencies. It also has lots of departments, commissions, boards and instrumentalities, including federal corporations. In the last 100 years, Congress has created lots of corporations and some that still exist today are:

The FDCPA simply regulates the collection activities of all federal agencies, departments, commissions, boards and instrumentalities, including the above federal corporations. Rather than repeatedly state in this 30+ page act that all "federal agencies, departments, commissions, boards and instrumentalities, including federal corporations" shall do certain things, all these entities are, for purposes of this particular act, encompassed within the words, "United States." Wherever the words "United States" appears in this law regulating these federal collection activities, it means all these various entities, including "Federal corporations".

Larry




#2105 From: "Patrick M" <paradoxmagnus@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:13 am
Subject: Re: FW: WHAT IS WRONG WITH NATIONAL HEALTH CARE
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I would NOT be to sure of that & I think people should be a little more than concerned about the PENALTY & the INCOME TAX SURCHARGE provisions of H.R. 3962.

 

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) have completed a preliminary analysis of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act, as introduced on October 29, 2009.

Estimated Budgetary Impact of H.R. 3962

According to CBO and JCT’s assessment, enacting H.R. 3962 would result in a net reduction in federal budget deficits of $104 billion over the 2010–2019 period (see Table 1). In the subsequent decade, the collective effect of its provisions would probably be slight reductions in federal budget deficits. Those estimates are all subject to substantial uncertainty. The estimate includes a projected net cost of $894 billion over 10 years for the proposed expansions in insurance coverage. That net cost itself reflects a gross total of $1,055 billion in subsidies provided through the exchanges (and related spending), increased net outlays for Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and tax credits for small employers; those costs are partly offset by $167 billion in collections of penalties paid by individuals and employers. On balance, other effects on revenues and outlays associated with the coverage provisions add $6 billion to their total cost.

Provisions Regarding Insurance Coverage

H.R. 3962 would take several steps designed to increase the number of legal U.S. residents who have health insurance. It would require individuals to purchase health insurance, starting in 2013, and would in many cases impose a financial penalty on people who did not do so.

On a preliminary basis, CBO and JCT estimate that H.R. 3962’s provisions affecting health insurance coverage would result in a net increase in federal deficits of $894 billion over fiscal years 2010 through 2019. That estimate primarily reflects $425 billion in net federal outlays for Medicaid and CHIP and $605 billion in federal subsidies that would be provided to purchase coverage through the new insurance exchanges and related spending.3 The other main element of the coverage provisions that would increase federal deficits is the tax credit for certain small employers who offer health insurance, which is estimated to reduce revenues by $25 billion over 10 years. Those costs would be partly offset by a net increase in receipts, totaling $167 billion over the period, from two sources: penalty payments by uninsured individuals, which would yield receipts of about $33 billion, and penalty payments by employers under the play-or-pay requirement, which would total about $135 billion. Other effects on tax revenues and outlays for Social Security that are associated with the coverage provisions would increase deficits by $6 billion.4

 

Effects of H.R. 3962 Beyond the First 10 Years

CBO has therefore developed a rough outlook for the decade following the 10-year budget window by grouping the elements of the bill into broad categories and assessing the rate at which the budgetary impact of each of those broad categories is likely to increase over time. Under H.R. 3962, the major categories are as follows:

The income tax surcharge on high-income individuals: JCT estimates that the provision would generate about $68 billion in additional revenues in 2019, and those revenues are growing a little faster than 5 percent per year toward the end of the 10-year budget window. As a rough approximation, CBO assumes continued growth at about that rate during the following decade.

 

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/106xx/doc10688/hr3962Rangel.pdf

 

Especially since they will be in the INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.  

 

The “reformers” in the White House and the House of Representatives have made all too plain their vision of the federal government’s power to coerce individual Americans to make the “right” health-care choices. The highly partisan bill the House just passed includes severe penalties for individuals who do not purchase insurance approved by the federal government. By neatly tucking these penalties into the IRS code, the so-called reformers have brought them under the tax-enforcement power of the federal government.

 

The Congressional Budget Office stated on October 29 that the House bill would generate $167 billion in revenue from “penalty payments.” Individual Americans are expected to pay $33 billion of these penalties, with employers paying the rest. Former member of Congress and Heritage Foundation fellow Ernest Istook has concluded that for this revenue goal to be met, 8 to 14 million individual Americans will have to be fined over the next ten years, quite an incentive for federal bureaucrats.

 

Who will be included among those subject to civil and criminal penalties if this provision becomes law? For starters, any family of four whose combined income in 2016 is above $102,100 ($88,200 in today’s dollars) and that chooses to pay all its medical expenses out of pocket rather than pay the $15,000 a year that the CBO says will be the lowest-priced insurance option for families. Also any healthy twentysomething in a city with high costs of living who chooses to take the risk of going uninsured. And by outlawing the popular high-deductible plans that are currently among the lowest-cost health-insurance solutions, the new law would only increase the number of Americans on the rolls of those who cannot afford insurance. The CBO itself estimates that at least 18 million Americans will still be uninsured in 2016.

 

The fact that the penalties for noncompliance are enforceable by criminal prosecution is a chilling abuse of the prosecutorial power, which Columbia law professor Herbert Wechsler pointed out 50 years ago is the greatest power that any government uses against its citizens. Using it to enforce one particular notion of appropriate insurance coverage is nothing less than a tyrannical assertion of raw government power over the private lives and economic rights of individual Americans.

 

How would the penalties work? As a starting point, taxpaying Americans who do not satisfy the law’s insurance requirement would be penalized on their federal income-tax returns. Their tax burden would be increased by the lesser of (a) the amount the government decides they should pay for government-mandated health coverage or (b) 2.5 percent of their adjusted income above a filing threshold. An otherwise law-abiding American who fails to pay this “tax penalty” could be criminally prosecuted and sentenced to a year in prison if the feds deem his refusal to be a misdemeanor.

 

Worse, if the feds decide the refusal is felonious, the culprit may spend five years in federal prison and be fined up to $250,000. You could end up in a cell in Leavenworth even if you have paid all your family’s medical bills yourself.

 

By transforming a refusal or failure to comply with a government mandate into a federal tax violation, the “progressives” are using the brute force of criminal law to engage in social engineering. This represents an oppressive, absolutist view of government power.

 

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MjVjY2FmYmE3MTQwNmNlYWRlMzE4YTc5NGQ4OGJkMmM

 

As a search of the bill for “Internal Revenue Code” will reveal.

 

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

 

Patrick in California

 

"It ain't what ya don't know that hurts ya. What really puts a hurtin' on ya is what ya knows for sure, that just ain't so." -- Uncle Remus

 

--- In law-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Cyril Grossé <cyril.grosse.3@...> wrote:

> 

>

>

> I think ultimately a controversy like this will very likely be settled

> the same way that they are settled now with private insurance

> companies.  It will be like "The Rainmaker

> <http://amazon.imdb.com/title/tt0119978/plotsummary>", only we know that

> the insurance companies win more than they lose unfortunately.

>

> The 'effect' of the bill essentially makes the federal government

> another insurance company in the market (though with a decidedly unfair

> competitive advantage).  If the type of medicine you want practiced

> isn't covered by the federal/national option, it doesn't mean that it

> isn't available; nor does it mean that said medical practice has been

> regulated.

>

> Health insurance coverage restrictions don't regulate medical practice

> anymore than Auto insurance coverage restrictions regulate driving.

> Ergo, if you can afford it, do what you want.

>

> Can an argument be made however, that this is somehow discrimination

> against the poor?  I think so, only if one could also make the case that

> health care (including whatever practice/procedure(s) is being

> regulated) is a "right".


#2104 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:49 am
Subject: WHAT IS WRONG WITH NATIONAL HEALTH CARE
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The current debate about “national health care” is exclusively centered on the merits of various provisions in the multiple versions offered by different factions in Congress, all of whom presume that America is destined to have such a program, in one form or another. Completely removed from the debate over this matter is any mention of the absence of constitutional authority for the feds to establish such a scheme in the jurisdiction of the several States. It is reputed that when an astute critic of this legislative tragedy noted this constitutional defect to a Congressman, he received a smug reply: “show me where we cannot enact this program.”  Apparently, there are lots of constitutionally challenged federal legislators besides Pelosi.

There is one very profound constitutional objection to this federal gamble to subject Americans and their health care to the control of politicians and bureaucrats. Congress lacks the constitutional authority to regulate and control the practice of medicine in the jurisdictions of the States. See Linder v. United States, 268 U.S. 5, 18, 45 S.Ct. 446 (1925)("Obviously, direct control of medical practice in the states is beyond the power of the federal government"); Lambert v. Yellowly, 272 U.S. 581, 598, 47 S.Ct. 210 (1926)(“It is important also to bear in mind that ‘direct control of medical practice in the States is beyond the power of the Federal Government.’ Linder v. United States, 268 U.S. 5, 18. Congress, therefore, cannot directly restrict the professional judgment of the physician or interfere with its free exercise in the treatment of disease. Whatever power exists in that respect belongs to the states exclusively.”); and Oregon v. Ashcroft, 368 F.3d 1118, 1124 (9th Cir. 2004)(“The principle that state governments bear the primary responsibility for evaluating physician assisted suicide follows from our concept of federalism, which requires that state lawmakers, not the federal government, are ‘the primary regulators of professional [medical] conduct.’ Conant v. Walters, 309 F.3d 629, 639 (9th Cir. 2002); see also Glucksberg, 521 U.S. at 737, 117 S.Ct. 2258 (O'Connor, J., concurring). The Supreme Court has made the constitutional principle clear: ‘Obviously, direct control of medical practice in the states is beyond the power of the federal government.’ Linder v. United States, 268 U.S. 5, 18, 45 S.Ct. 446, 69 L.Ed. 819 (1925); see also Barsky v. Bd. of Regents, 347 U.S. 442, 449, 74 S.Ct. 650, 98 L.Ed. 829 (1954) (‘It is elemental that a state has broad power to establish and enforce standards of conduct within its borders relative to the health of everyone there. It is a vital part of a state's police power.’). The Attorney General ‘may not . . . regulate [the doctor-patient] relationship to advance federal policy.’ Conant, 309 F.3d at 647 (Kozinski, J., concurring).”).

And certain features of this proposed law will certainly be unconstitutional; see United States v. Constantine, 296 U.S. 287, 56 S.Ct. 223 (1935).

Please spread the word and loudly object to your Congressman.

Larry



#2103 From: Jon Roland <jon.roland@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:32 am
Subject: Fwd: Oregon case: Nov. 23rd, 2009 Federal jury finds three guilty of $9 million tax evasion scheme (?) defense attorney murdered Nov. 24th
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It may be time to institute security procedures.
 
Oregon Federal Defense Attorney found murdered Representing Oregon citizen against IRS

 

Will view on Freedom Phoenix Soon      go to http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/

Nov. 29th, 2009

Dear Editor and groups concerned with IRS and Constitutional matters,

I am sending you a breaking news report concerning several citizens engaged in a Portland, Oregon court jury trial against the IRS. I have attached this information for review.

Marcel Bendshadler, one of the men accused of committing conspiracy against the IRS and convicted Nov. 23rd, 2009 stated in open court;  "[they] would admit that they are NOT going to "prove" this element of the "crime." Based on that fact alone, I could stand up and say when the DOJ "rests" to the Judge:
Ma'am, you are hereby ordered to dismiss this case. The DOJ has failed to establish the critical element that the IRS is an Agency of the United States Government, and since this is a case of "Defrauding the United States Government" the DOJ has, under FRCP 12(b)(6) "Failed to State a Claim upon which Relief can be Granted" and therefore has failed to establish the basis for any "conspiracy" to exist against the United States Government."

His attorney, Nancy Bergeson committed to appeal this decision after 21 months of "learning the truth" about the IRS and Constitutional law was found murdered in her home Nov. 24th, 2009.

Is this mere coincidence ? Did the IRS make an example of this attorneys tenacity to frighten other attorneys from daring to defend their clients ? Or a double play to put Marcel and the other defendants accused of conspiracy in jail permanently ? How many citizens will suffer this same fate as their lives are destroyed ? Read the case and consider having your groups step forward to help in these matters to find Nancys killer as well and retrieve the innocence of these citizens.

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Breaking News:

Commentary by Elizabeth Wallace, Oregon

Always read between the Lines

Nov. 29th, 2009

 

Portland Oregon Federal IRS Case conviction

                                          Defense Attorney found dead directly after verdict

 

Nov. 23rd, 2009 they were found guilty   Nov. 24th, 2009 Tuesday attorney found dead. It this coincidence or connection ?

 

This quote is on the quatloos.com- a subversive web-page always on top of the big news to insult and destroy the people-you can always find truth in the lies and corruption by "reading between the lines". So how does Quatloos continually find national issues immediately posting counter-productive opinions? (Their quote)

"Terror is nothing other than prompt, severe, inflexible justice."  - Robespierre

Will the IRS now try and set Marcel up on involvement with his attorneys death ? It would be the Idiom: "par for the course".

 

This is one of several articles on Marcel B. and his case as he is convicted here in Portland, Oregon:

Just reading this it is obviously he is correct in his statement the problem is he should have been smart enough to direct this from this type of court and judge knowing they would convict him and now I hear he wants to appeal this:   this article is by Bryan Denson of the Oregonian: to comment: bryandenson@...

 

Article: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2009/11/federal_jury_finds_three_guilt.html

 

His attorney was from the Metro Federal Public Defense Attorneys office Nancy S. Bergeson in Portland, Or. She was murdered shortly after his conviction :

This adds such an unusual twist to this case and I believe her death is the key that may save Marcel and the others bringing her killers to exposure and why they did this to her ( without a smoke screen to cover it up )

Here is an article from Utah and this statement was not in the Oregonian as they interviewed this judge. Note how interesting it is that they mention Marcel in this article and even allow his comments to be posted:

 

Is this possible (they) did this to make a connection to Marcel and to make a loud and clear statement to "any attorney" who would dare actually defend her client against the powers that be ? They haven't done it as yet, but all signs point to this possibility.

Vernice Trease, a friend of 20 years and a state judge in Salt Lake City, said Bergeson was a mentor in the Salt Lake Legal Defender Association. "Whatever it is that she thought was right, and was appropriate for her client, she stood up and advocated for them," Trease told The Oregonian . Earlier this week, Bergeson defended Roy Bendshadler, 48, of Portland. He was convicted Monday of defrauding the government of more than $9 million in a tax-avoidance scheme that involved preparing more than 1,000 returns on the theory that compensation for personal labor is not taxable. "I'm gut-punched sick because I lost my advocate," said Bendshadler, who planned to appeal. "She was a fighter. She risked sanctions by the judge when she repeatedly objected to the prosecution putting hearsay documents into the records."  This is the judges bio:

JUDGE VERNICE TREASE

Judge Vernice S. Trease was appointed to the Third District Court by Gov. Jon M. Huntsman, Jr. and sworn in February 2007. She serves Salt Lake, Summit, and Tooele counties. Judge Trease graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree in International Relations from Lewis and Clark College and received a law degree from the University of Utah College of Law in 1988. Prior to her appointment to the bench, Judge Trease served the community of Salt Lake County as a public defender attorney with the Salt Lake Legal Defender Association. She was a senior trial attorney, capital qualified attorney, team leader, and assistant director of the office of more than 60 lawyers. She also worked at Utah Legal Services. Judge Trease has served as a member of the Utah Commission on Racial and Ethnic Fairness in Criminal and Juvenile Justice System and is a recipient of the Utah Minority Bar Association's Community Service Award. She is a member of the David K. Watkiss-Sutherland II Inns of Court.

 

The following is an amazingly good commentary by Bob Hurt from Florida in regards to this case. Here it is only Nov. 29th and this news has traveled across the country.

 

Tax Crime Public Defender Nancy S. Bergeson Dead of Homicide 

 

So, is it possible as she learned the truth while defending Marcel after 21 months and showing her defense of him and this truth ( they ) murdered her ?  Their corruption has no limits !! Everyone who believes in exposing the lies of IRS should be helping (  for free ) in this case and making a public show of support to find Nancy's killers.

More comments on the case from 2008: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message690762/pg1


http://groups.google.com/group/lawmen/browse_thread/thread/14baee9246e76027

 

Nancy Bergeson

Why does it not surprise me that Nancy S. Bergeson, the diligent public defender

who represented Marcel Roy Bendshadler in the tax crimes case in which a Portland USDC jury found Bendshadler guilty Monday, suffered a gruesome murder on Tuesday?  

 

She was found dead in her Portland Oregon home at her laptop keyboard in her
pajamas on Tuesday.   Of all the defense attorneys in the case, only
Bergeson showed any sincere belief in the innocence of her client.  Why?
Because she really believed Bendshadler innocent.  Why?  Because for 21
months of their relationship in his case, Bendshadler had explained to her
much of the skullduggery typical of the IRS and DOJ in tax crime cases,
including subornation of both judge and jury, and many other dirty tricks,
such as lugging into the courtroom many boxes to make the jury think the DOJ
had a mountain of evidence against the defendants, so as to twist their
minds and pervert their judgment.  Her own research and observation
corroborated the picture Bendshadler had painted for her

And note that Bendshadler, 49, holds a Master's degree in Constitutional
Law, and has argued at least one case before the Idaho Supreme Court.  He
has studied income tax law and IRS behaviors for years.
 He knows his
subject very well and has watched with others in the tax honesty community
across America while the DOJ racked up a putative 95+% win ratio in tax
crime cases, a phenomenal win record, even for the biggest law firm in the
world, the U.S. Department of Justice.  Many believe such a win could not
happen without suborning both judges and juries repeatedly throughout the
years.

Now, I suspect that Bergeson got so close to the truth in her own
investigations over the months of association with Bendshadler that she
became a dire threat to the IRS and DOJ, putting both at severe risk of
exposure of their crimes that deprived Bendshadler of due process.  As you
know from my earlier report, Bendshadler said the jury seemed bright, alert,
and friendly toward him one day, and then later returned a guilty verdict
against him, atypical of such a jury.  

For this reason, the IRS and DOJ people associated with the case have become
highly elevated in MY suspect list .  I would feel no surprise at the
discovery that one or more of them bore direct or indirect guilt for
Bergeson's death.

 "She held my hand for 21 months through this ordeal.  Now she's dead, and
Judge Ann Brown wants to know whether the defense will seek an extension of
time for the sentencing hearing, " said Bendshadler in an interview
Wednesday.   "
You may now SCREAM BLOODY MURDER, for Nancy Bergeson," he concluded in sadness. We agree.  As the mob at the DOJ might say, Bergeson now "sleeps with the fishes." Bob Hurt

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Comments to articles: Request of all IRS information experts to help in this case: ( Hands out of your pockets its time to pro bono some work on this case for the sake of everyone in this country )

Bergeson's family and comments make it clear..........as you read this below she had no fears of her clients ( it is unfortunate her sister does not understand the fear she neglected to see and dismissed as she defended Marcel was of the IRS and what they were capable of doing should she go up against them and not just play out the usual attorney/court room game of non-defense. Bergeson, actually believed and defended her client. Perhaps other times she defended a client due to her duty but in this case, she actually believed in her client seeing the truth before her eyes for the first time. I am sure, her "family/husband also knows the truth and concord with her in regards to the truth in the IRS matters with Marcel. It is also possible he knows the dangers to himself and his career should he publicly open his mouth in regards to his sister-in-laws death. What I would hope for is that her death (does) bring  him to this level and defense of her through a more intense research of the corruption levels of IRS and what they do to so many people. This is the time he will need all of the evidence and help he can get to expose her killer and through this expose the IRS. Anything all of you so well informed and involved in regarding IRS and their ability to actually set out to destroy or even murder someone trying to expose them should consider this a worthy cause to send him his information and seek on their own time any information that would help them find her killer and free Marcel and the other men on convicted unjustly.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/deseretnews/obituary.aspx?n=nancy-bergeson&pid=136590424

Marian Bergeson, her mother and a former California legislator and state education secretary

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/11/daughter-of-longtime-orange-county-legislator-marian-bergeson-found-dead.html

Her sister, Julie McCormick, and others have described Bergeson as a marathon runner, mountain climber, skier and boat paddler. She was strong enough to beat her teenage nephews at arm wrestling so family members don't imagine someone overpowering her.

Bergeson also didn't express concern that a client would do her harm, family members said.

McCormick said her husband is a county public defender and often discussed case strategies with Bergeson.

She didn't talk about fears of retribution or retaliation by clients, McCormick said. "You always worry about that, but this was not a concern she ever expressed," her sister said."The irony in this to me is she defended people who committed crimes, and she was such their advocate," McCormick said. "If this person could do something so horrific to her ... She would have been probably their best ally, and this person takes her out. That's what kills me."

Contact this radio station for any help or donations of material, time and evidence :

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“I find it laughable that they would admit that they are NOT going to "prove" this element of the "crime." Based on that fact alone, I could stand up and say when the DOJ "rests" to the Judge:

Ma'am, you are hereby ordered to dismiss this case. The DOJ has failed to establish the critical element that the IRS is an Agency of the United States Government, and since this is a case of "Defrauding the United States Government" the DOJ has, under FRCP 12(b)(6) "Failed to State a Claim upon which Relief can be Granted" and therefore has failed to establish the basis for any "conspiracy" to exist against the United States Government."

Then sit down and shut up.                                         Marcel B

Robert McKee v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue, 2006 (9th Cir)

 

Here is a 2004 Department of Justice case also involving Marcel B: this has statements in it http://www.justice.gov/tax/txdv04220.htm

 

As most educated Americans know too well how many citizens are now sitting in prison for the same issues. This case should be a priority for every American seeking justice.  as we all know how many are now sitting in prison for the same issues. The element making this all the more imperative is the tragic murder of this women which anyone "reading between the lines" knows there is some involvement with her strong defense of Marcel and who killed her a day later as she planned to continue the fight for him. This is an act of terrorism to go so far with their corruption they would actually take another human beings life. Please, consider putting some time and effort into this matter.




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#2102 From: Wayne <drw1@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:26 am
Subject: Re: Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
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I have several questions Mike:

Was the included picture accurate?

Was what looks like a coil inside the capsule actually a coil?

What is the function of that coil?
 

Mike Vanhooser wrote:

(I'm going to be sorry for this...)  Ok Dale Evans, why don't you "enlighten" me.  For the record, there is no statistical evidence of elevated cancer occurance in standard livestock.  The only place it occurs is in pets, and that cannot be correlated to the chips exclusively, but is likely influenced by the chip being placed in the same area as shots are administered, therefore it does not provide a single causality and is statistically corrupted.  I am out of the livestck business, but I would not chip now bcause of the demanded governmental interferrence, not any safety concern, because there is none.  Anyway, my initial point was that the article was BS, that the chip giving him cancer was highly unlikely, and the chip emitting EMF was impossible, so the credibility of the story was zero.

--- On Sun, 11/29/09, Elena <phl5016@...> wrote:

 
From: Elena <phl5016@...>
Subject: Re: [Lex_Rex] Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
To: "Mike Vanhooser" <novaelec@...>
Cc: Lex_Rex@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 3:29 PM
 
I'm a Montana rancher and I too agree with Twain.
BTW NONE of my animals are or will ever be "chipped". If you were a REAL rancher you'd know the facts and you would never allow your animals to be "chipped".

Mike Vanhooser wrote:
> Ok, so you, a person who has no clue about chipping and probably can't even describe the operational parameters, much less having ever handled one, is going to tell me, a fourth generation rancher and RF engineer, I don't know what I'm talking about.  I could give you a dissertation about migration, encapsulation and benign sarcomas, but from your tone I doubt you would listen or believe.    As Mark Twain so eloquently put it, "Never argue with idiots..."


> --- On *Sun, 11/29/09, Elena /<phl5016@...>/* wrote:


>     From: Elena <phl5016@...>
>     Subject: Re: [Lex_Rex] Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of
>     Verichip?
>     To: "Mike Vanhooser" <novaelec@...>
>     Cc: "Tommy Cryer" <CryerLaw@...>, Lex_Rex@yahoogroups.com,
>     TheAmericanRepublic@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Becraft"
>     <becraft@...>
>     Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 2:04 PM

>     And how do you know your livestock didn't have cancer? Did you or
>     the USDA test them before or after slaughter? "Airtight
>     authority"? The same authority as when E.coli and other reasons
>     necessitate a recall?

>     Mike Vanhooser wrote:
>     > This article is BS. I have been using these chips in livestock
>     for nearly 20 years, with no cancers caused by the chips. Also,
>     the chips do not radiate any type of RF unless they are being
>     excited by a chip reader within a few inches of the chip. So his
>     story of reading EMF is also BS. Being an RF engineer I can speak
>     with airtight authority about this. This is nothing but a "black
>     helicopter" article with zero credibility.
>     >
>     >
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>     >     TheAmericanRepublic @yahoogroups. com
>     >     Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 10:40 AM
>     >
>     >
>     >     Secretly implanted Verichip caused cancer in inventor and he
>     may die:
>     >
>     >     http://pesn. com/2009/ 11/28/9501591_ Bob_Boyce_ cancer_by_
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#2101 From: Mike Vanhooser <novaelec@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:29 am
Subject: Re: Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
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(I'm going to be sorry for this...)  Ok Dale Evans, why don't you "enlighten" me.  For the record, there is no statistical evidence of elevated cancer occurance in standard livestock.  The only place it occurs is in pets, and that cannot be correlated to the chips exclusively, but is likely influenced by the chip being placed in the same area as shots are administered, therefore it does not provide a single causality and is statistically corrupted.  I am out of the livestck business, but I would not chip now bcause of the demanded governmental interferrence, not any safety concern, because there is none.  Anyway, my initial point was that the article was BS, that the chip giving him cancer was highly unlikely, and the chip emitting EMF was impossible, so the credibility of the story was zero.

--- On Sun, 11/29/09, Elena <phl5016@...> wrote:

From: Elena <phl5016@...>
Subject: Re: [Lex_Rex] Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
To: "Mike Vanhooser" <novaelec@...>
Cc: Lex_Rex@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 3:29 PM

I'm a Montana rancher and I too agree with Twain.
BTW NONE of my animals are or will ever be "chipped". If you were a REAL rancher you'd know the facts and you would never allow your animals to be "chipped".

Mike Vanhooser wrote:
> Ok, so you, a person who has no clue about chipping and probably can't even describe the operational parameters, much less having ever handled one, is going to tell me, a fourth generation rancher and RF engineer, I don't know what I'm talking about.  I could give you a dissertation about migration, encapsulation and benign sarcomas, but from your tone I doubt you would listen or believe.    As Mark Twain so eloquently put it, "Never argue with idiots..."
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 11/29/09, Elena /<phl5016@...>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Elena <phl5016@...>
>     Subject: Re: [Lex_Rex] Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of
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>     To: "Mike Vanhooser" <novaelec@...>
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>     TheAmericanRepublic@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Becraft"
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>     Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 2:04 PM
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>     And how do you know your livestock didn't have cancer? Did you or
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>
>     Mike Vanhooser wrote:
>     > This article is BS. I have been using these chips in livestock
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>     >
>     >
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#2100 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:04 am
Subject: Re: regarding Teknosis article "Larry Becraft analyzes the legal bases of Mercier's Invisible Contracts"
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Dan,

I have been involved with the organized freedom movement for 30 years and not only have observed virtually everything that has happened in it, good and bad, I have made more than a substantial contribution to it, too often being wrapped up in its very real battles. My experience teaches me this: at some stage in their life, virtually every participant in the movement realizes that something “is afoot” not only with the govt but also the course and direction of our country, and he decides to take action.  These people understand that they are standing at a very important fork in the cross-roads: the road to the left leads to slavery, while that to the right is the road to liberty and freedom. Once they have this epiphany, they charge down the road to liberty. 

But most of our fellow Americans, suffering from an avalanche of propaganda, have taken the road on the left, Slavery Road. Our task is to expose to these unfortunates the road to the right, Liberty Road.  However, the captains of Slavery Road have lots of cops on it, watching for any liberty-lovers who may expose the message of liberty to the rest of the slaves. Liberating slaves is perhaps the highest of crimes.

The message of the movement sent to the slaves needs to be motivating and substantive. Yet, too much of the various messages coming from our side right now border on the ridiculous and crazy. The captains and cops of Slavery Road laugh at legal arguments like the UCC, “we are Brits,” the redemption process, “everything is admiralty”, the Forms 1099-OID process, names in CAPS, the 1933 bankruptcy, strawmen, birth certificates, etc. It appears that a large numbers of the newly freed slaves are exposed to these insane arguments promoted by some of the “legal” gurus and, being gullible, they fall for these arguments. However, I analyze these arguments and too often I find that assertions are made without the support of any authority, but then if there is cited authority, most of the time I find that when you look up that cited authority, it has absolutely nothing to do with the asserted proposition. Let me be brutally frank: this is lying!!! But, once the novices are exposed to these legal arguments, it is almost impossible to convince them of the errors in their beliefs, and attempts at education are viewed suspiciously, often resulting in the erstwhile educator being falsely accused of being a cop on Slavery Road.

Part of the message of the freedom movement involves law, because law is used by the cops on Slavery Road to control the slave and free alike. But, educating one and all with phony legal arguments having neither substance nor merit accomplishes nothing but harm. The UCC argument had no substance or merit, yet it had a life inside the freedom movement of probably 14 years. Countless numbers of people in the movement were essentially neutralized because they held such beliefs. Nobody can point to anything of substance that was positively accomplished by the UCC crowd, altho it must be noted that other slaves negatively viewed the people in this movement as nuts and flakes as a result. Promotion of similar arguments like those noted above have and will accomplish nothing, and the “downside” for the movement is being labeled as quacks and freaks.

Given a choice between slavery and freedom, most human beings will chose the latter, and rightly so. Liberty and freedom are precious and beautiful as opposed to the misery and suffering of slavery. With such a wonderful message, why we do permit this message to be sullied via crazy legal arguments? Until we address and remedy this important matter of nonsense legal arguments, this movement cannot be effective.

Larry
 

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Even better… why not join me as a comrade in arms to help stop people from being harmed by such nonsense? 

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I hope you join my group.  I need all the help I can get! 

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p.s. – I am considering editing the title of your article to read, “Larry Becraft analyzes the legal [basis] of Mercier's Invisible Contracts” 

This is how the article appears on PyraBang:

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#2099 From: Mike Vanhooser <novaelec@...>
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:08 pm
Subject: Re: Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
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Ok, so you, a person who has no clue about chipping and probably can't even describe the operational parameters, much less having ever handled one, is going to tell me, a fourth generation rancher and RF engineer, I don't know what I'm talking about.  I could give you a dissertation about migration, encapsulation and benign sarcomas, but from your tone I doubt you would listen or believe.    As Mark Twain so eloquently put it, "Never argue with idiots..."


--- On Sun, 11/29/09, Elena <phl5016@...> wrote:

From: Elena <phl5016@...>
Subject: Re: [Lex_Rex] Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
To: "Mike Vanhooser" <novaelec@...>
Cc: "Tommy Cryer" <CryerLaw@...>, Lex_Rex@yahoogroups.com, TheAmericanRepublic@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Becraft" <becraft@...>
Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 2:04 PM

And how do you know your livestock didn't have cancer? Did you or the
USDA test them before or after slaughter? "Airtight authority"? The same
authority as when E.coli and other reasons necessitate a recall?

Mike Vanhooser wrote:
> This article is BS. I have been using these chips in livestock for
> nearly 20 years, with no cancers caused by the chips. Also, the chips
> do not radiate any type of RF unless they are being excited by a chip
> reader within a few inches of the chip. So his story of reading EMF is
> also BS. Being an RF engineer I can speak with airtight authority
> about this. This is nothing but a "black helicopter" article with zero
> credibility.
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 11/29/09, Larry Becraft /<becraft@hiwaay. net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Larry Becraft <becraft@hiwaay. net>
>     Subject: [Lex_Rex] Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
>     To: "Tommy Cryer" <CryerLaw@aol. com>, Lex_Rex@yahoogroups .com,
>     TheAmericanRepublic @yahoogroups. com
>     Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 10:40 AM
>
>
>     Secretly implanted Verichip caused cancer in inventor and he may die:
>
>     http://pesn. com/2009/ 11/28/9501591_ Bob_Boyce_ cancer_by_
>     Verichip/
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#2098 From: Elena <phl5016@...>
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:29 pm
Subject: Re: Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
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I'm a Montana rancher and I too agree with Twain.
BTW NONE of my animals are or will ever be "chipped". If you were a REAL
rancher you'd know the facts and you would never allow your animals to
be "chipped".

Mike Vanhooser wrote:
> Ok, so you, a person who has no clue about chipping and probably can't
> even describe the operational parameters, much less having ever
> handled one, is going to tell me, a fourth generation rancher and RF
> engineer, I don't know what I'm talking about.  I could give you a
> dissertation about migration, encapsulation and benign sarcomas, but
> from your tone I doubt you would listen or believe.    As Mark Twain
> so eloquently put it, "Never argue with idiots..."
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 11/29/09, Elena /<phl5016@...>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Elena <phl5016@...>
>     Subject: Re: [Lex_Rex] Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of
>     Verichip?
>     To: "Mike Vanhooser" <novaelec@...>
>     Cc: "Tommy Cryer" <CryerLaw@...>, Lex_Rex@yahoogroups.com,
>     TheAmericanRepublic@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Becraft"
>     <becraft@...>
>     Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 2:04 PM
>
>     And how do you know your livestock didn't have cancer? Did you or
>     the USDA test them before or after slaughter? "Airtight
>     authority"? The same authority as when E.coli and other reasons
>     necessitate a recall?
>
>     Mike Vanhooser wrote:
>     > This article is BS. I have been using these chips in livestock
>     for nearly 20 years, with no cancers caused by the chips. Also,
>     the chips do not radiate any type of RF unless they are being
>     excited by a chip reader within a few inches of the chip. So his
>     story of reading EMF is also BS. Being an RF engineer I can speak
>     with airtight authority about this. This is nothing but a "black
>     helicopter" article with zero credibility.
>     >
>     >
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>     >     From: Larry Becraft <becraft@hiwaay. net>
>     >     Subject: [Lex_Rex] Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of
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>     >     TheAmericanRepublic @yahoogroups. com
>     >     Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 10:40 AM
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>     >     Secretly implanted Verichip caused cancer in inventor and he
>     may die:
>     >
>     >     http://pesn. com/2009/ 11/28/9501591_ Bob_Boyce_ cancer_by_
>     >     Verichip/
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#2097 From: Elena <phl5016@...>
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:04 pm
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And how do you know your livestock didn't have cancer? Did you or the
USDA test them before or after slaughter? "Airtight authority"? The same
authority as when E.coli and other reasons necessitate a recall?

Mike Vanhooser wrote:
> This article is BS. I have been using these chips in livestock for
> nearly 20 years, with no cancers caused by the chips. Also, the chips
> do not radiate any type of RF unless they are being excited by a chip
> reader within a few inches of the chip. So his story of reading EMF is
> also BS. Being an RF engineer I can speak with airtight authority
> about this. This is nothing but a "black helicopter" article with zero
> credibility.
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 11/29/09, Larry Becraft /<becraft@hiwaay. net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Larry Becraft <becraft@hiwaay. net>
>     Subject: [Lex_Rex] Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
>     To: "Tommy Cryer" <CryerLaw@aol. com>, Lex_Rex@yahoogroups .com,
>     TheAmericanRepublic @yahoogroups. com
>     Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 10:40 AM
>
>
>     Secretly implanted Verichip caused cancer in inventor and he may die:
>
>     http://pesn. com/2009/ 11/28/9501591_ Bob_Boyce_ cancer_by_
>     Verichip/
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#2096 From: Jon Roland <jon.roland@...>
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:51 pm
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I have begun building a new site, http://www.constitutional-compliance.org , using a courseware management system called Moodle. So far I have only created some course categories. Next I will be adding courses. You may want to bookmark this site and visit it from time to time to take some of the courses. This is also a good time to let me know what courses you would especially like to see.

The level of the courses on this site are for more advanced students. We will probably later have a separate URL for courses for students of public school age, because of the liability issues involved in offering instruction for that audience, which require special measures to control content that some might find objectionable.

I will post notices of courses as I develop them.
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#2095 From: Mike Vanhooser <novaelec@...>
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
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This article is BS.  I have been using these chips in livestock for nearly 20 years, with no cancers caused by the chips.  Also, the chips do not radiate any type of RF unless they are being excited by a chip reader within a few inches of the chip.  So his story of reading EMF is also BS.  Being an RF engineer I can speak with airtight authority about this.  This is nothing but a "black helicopter" article with zero credibility.


--- On Sun, 11/29/09, Larry Becraft <becraft@...> wrote:

From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Subject: [Lex_Rex] Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
To: "Tommy Cryer" <CryerLaw@...>, Lex_Rex@yahoogroups.com, TheAmericanRepublic@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 10:40 AM


Secretly implanted Verichip caused cancer in inventor and he may die:

http://pesn.com/2009/11/28/9501591_Bob_Boyce_cancer_by_Verichip/



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#2094 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:40 pm
Subject: Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?
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Secretly implanted Verichip caused cancer in inventor and he may die:

http://pesn.com/2009/11/28/9501591_Bob_Boyce_cancer_by_Verichip/

#2093 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: Liberty’s Hammer & Anvil radio show on Microeffect
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Microeffect Listeners,

  On Saturday afternoon, Nov. 28, between 3 to 5 PM (Eastern), 2 to 4 PM
(Central), 1 to 3 PM (Mountain), Noon to 2 PM (Pacific), Liberty’s
Hammer & Anvil radio show (hosted by Larry Becraft and Tom Cryer) will
broadcast on the Microeffect Radio Network, and you may listen over the
Net here:

  http://www.themicroeffect.com/listenlive.htm

Our guests for Sat’s show will be Rick Wos, Ill. Delegate to the We The
People Continental Congress 2009, recently concluded.

  We would like to hear your own comments about that event and any others
of interest. We invite your calls:

  (208) 935-0094

  Larry Becraft

#2092 From: Jon Roland <jon.roland@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:47 am
Subject: Right and Left Join Forces on Criminal Justice (and libertarians, too)
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Right and Left Join Forces on Criminal Justice

WASHINGTON — In the next several months, the Supreme Court will decide at least a half-dozen cases about the rights of people accused of crimes involving drugs, sex and corruption. Civil liberties groups and associations of defense lawyers have lined up on the side of the accused.

But so have conservative, libertarian and business groups. Their briefs and public statements are signs of an emerging consensus on the right that the criminal justice system is an aspect of big government that must be contained.

The development represents a sharp break with tough-on-crime policies associated with the Republican Party since the Nixon administration.

“It’s a remarkable phenomenon,” said Norman L. Reimer, executive director of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. “The left and the right have bent to the point where they are now in agreement on many issues. In the area of criminal justice, the whole idea of less government, less intrusion, less regulation has taken hold.”

Edwin Meese III, who was known as a fervent supporter of law and order as attorney general in the Reagan administration, now spends much of his time criticizing what he calls the astounding number and vagueness of federal criminal laws.

Mr. Meese once referred to the American Civil Liberties Union as part of the “criminals’ lobby.” These days, he said, “in terms of working with the A.C.L.U., if they want to join us, we’re happy to have them.”

Dick Thornburgh, who succeeded Mr. Meese as attorney general under President Ronald Reagan and stayed on under President George Bush, echoed that sentiment in Congressional testimony in July.

“The problem of overcriminalization is truly one of those issues upon which a wide variety of constituencies can agree,” Mr. Thornburgh said. “Witness the broad and strong support from such varied groups as the Heritage Foundation, the Washington Legal Foundation, the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, the A.B.A., the Cato Institute, the Federalist Society and the A.C.L.U.”

In an interview at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative research group where he is a fellow, Mr. Meese said the “liberal ideas of extending the power of the state” were to blame for an out-of-control criminal justice system. “Our tradition has always been,” he said, “to construe criminal laws narrowly to protect people from the power of the state.”

There are, the foundation says, more than 4,400 criminal offenses in the federal code, many of them lacking a requirement that prosecutors prove traditional kinds of criminal intent.

“It’s a violation of federal law to give a false weather report,” Mr. Meese said. “People get put in jail for importing lobsters.”

Such so-called overcriminalization is at the heart of the conservative critique of crime policy. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce made the point in a recent friend-of-the-court brief about a federal law often used to prosecute corporate executives and politicians. The law, which makes it a crime for officials to defraud their employers of “honest services,” is, the brief said, both “unintelligible” and “used to target a staggeringly broad swath of behavior.”

The Supreme Court will hear three cases concerning the honest-services law this term, indicating an exceptional interest in the topic.

Harvey A. Silverglate, a left-wing civil liberties lawyer in Boston, says he has been surprised and delighted by the reception that his new book, “Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent,” has gotten in conservative circles. (A Heritage Foundation official offered this reporter a copy.)

The book argues that federal criminal law is so comprehensive and vague that all Americans violate it every day, meaning prosecutors can indict anyone at all.

“Libertarians and the civil liberties left have always had some common ground on these issues,” said Radley Balko, a senior editor at Reason, a libertarian magazine. “The more vocal presence of conservatives on overcriminalization issues is really what’s new.”

Several strands of conservatism have merged in objecting to aspects of the criminal justice system. Some conservatives are suspicious of all government power, while others insist that the federal government has been intruding into matters the Constitution reserves to the states.

In January, for instance, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in United States v. Comstock, about whether Congress has the constitutional power to authorize the continued confinement of people convicted of sex crimes after they have completed their criminal sentences.

Then there are conservatives who worry about government seizure of private property said to have been used to facilitate crimes, an issue raised in Alvarez v. Smith, which was argued in October.

“A joint on a yacht, and the whole thing is forfeited,” said Paul Cassell, a law professor at the University of Utah and a former federal judge appointed by President George W. Bush.

Some religious groups object to prison policies that appear to ignore the possibility of rehabilitation and redemption, and fiscal conservatives are concerned about the cost of maintaining the world’s largest prison population.

“Conservatives now recognize the economic consequences of a criminal justice leviathan,” said Erik Luna, a law professor at Washington and Lee University.

The roots of the conservative re-examination of crime policy might also be found in the jurisprudence of Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. The two justices, joined by liberal colleagues, have said the original meaning of the Constitution required them to rule against the government in, among other areas, the rights of criminal defendants to confront witnesses.

“Scalia and Thomas are vanguards of an understanding by the modern right that its distrust of government extends all the way to the criminal justice system,” said Douglas A. Berman, a law professor at Ohio State University.

The court will hear another confrontation clause case, Briscoe v. Virginia, in January. It is a sequel to a decision in June that prosecutors may not use crime lab reports without live testimony from the analysts who prepared them.

The conservative re-evaluation of crime policy is not universal, of course. Two notable exceptions to the trend, said Timothy Lynch, director of the Cato Institute’s criminal justice project, are Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.

“Roberts and Alito are coming down consistently on the side of the government in these criminal justice cases,” Mr. Lynch said.

Some scholars are skeptical about conservatives’ timing and motives, noting that their voices are rising during a Democratic administration and amid demands for accountability for the economic crisis.

“The Justice Department now acts as a kind of counterweight to corporate power,” said Frank O. Bowman, a law professor at the University of Missouri. “On the other side is an alliance between two strands of conservative thinking, the libertarian point of view and the corporate wing of the Republican Party.”

Mr. Meese acknowledged that the current climate was not the ideal one for his point of view. “We picked by accident a time,” he said, “when it was not a very popular topic in light of corporate frauds.”

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#2091 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:21 pm
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
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Folks,

Have a great Thanksgiving Day. If you want to do a little legal study
during your spare time, I suggest you go here:

http://uscode.house.gov/download/downloadPDF.shtml

At this site, you can download PDFs of entire titles of the US Code.

Larry

#2090 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:57 am
Subject: Re: Utter BS: "There are no States"
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Some guru states as follows:

There is NO Judicial Branch !

The Judicial Districts were ALL Abolished in 1856 by the Act of the 34th Congress.

The U.S. Supreme Court in 1860 reviewed the Act of the 34th Congress ordered ALL the States in Existence at that time to CLOSE DOWN all the Court's of law and ALL Court's complied in every State in 1860.

NONE of the Court's [sic] in any State are Court's [sic] created by the Constitution of their State.


Typical of the slimy gurus, they make wild statements like: “the districts were ALL abolished in 1856 by the Act of the 34th Congress” without citing the specific act of Congress. In 1856, Congress enacted what appears to be more than 100 separate laws (I am not going to count them) but they are spread across 132 pages of the Stats at Large, vol. 11. ALL of the Stats at Large are linked here:

http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/PrimarySources.html

The 1856 acts are published in 11 Stats at Large, and you can download this volume via the above page and perform word searches on that and all other volumes of the Stats.

Here is a test: please send me the citation to the specific act of Congress in 11 Stats that abolished all the courts. Furthermore, please send me the name and cite of the 1860 Supreme Court case that ordered all State courts to close. This is a loaded question because there is no such Congressional Act and no such Supreme Court case. Lawyers know this, but the gullible do not, and that is why the gurus deceive the gullible with BS like the above.

Also at the above link, you will find links to every State Constitution. I suggest that the interested reader review the constitution for the various states to see how the state courts are constitutionally created.  Alabama courts were established in the 1901 constitution, but then in the 70s, we amended the entire judicial article to create the system of courts we have today in Alabama, all pursuant to our constitution.

Closing note: Some may protest that I am less than cordial in dealing with the insane gurus, and I use disturbing language. Let me explain why I do this. Years ago, I did approach the gurus in the manner suggested, but I quickly learned that most of the gurus are the nastiest people I have ever met. The only things these jerks know and appreciate is force, and they need more than a slap in the face, even a fist sandwich. I despise these gurus that spread lies and false information to the gullible.

Larry

PS: I again ask: why are those who promoted that damnable 1099-OID argument now silent about their followers who are being indicted? I warned people not to pursue that insanity, and now the ducks are coming home to roost. 




Henry Morgan wrote:
 


From: Joe Thornton [mailto:tme@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:02 AM
To: henrymorgan@...
Subject: Let your LIGHT!!!!

. . . GUARANTEE . . . that by the time you get done reading this lengthy article, that . . . ALL OF YOU . . . will be . . . 100% . . . absolutely convinced that . . . ALL THE TAX GURUS . . . and . . . ALL THE ATTORNEYS . . . in the . . . TAX HONESTY MOVEMENT . . . are either . . . UNDERCOVER GOVERNMENT AGENTS . . . or . . . IRS SNOOPS . . . or . . . COMPLETE IDIOTS WHO ARE . . . LEGALLY INCOMPETENT!!!!

further . . . GUARANTEE . . . that by the time you get done reading this, . . . ALL OF YOU . . . will be in . . . 100% AGREEMENT WITH ME THAT ALL OF THESE TAX GURUS AND ALL THE WELL KNOWN TAX ATTORNEYS THAT HANG AROUND THE PATRIOT COMMUNITY ALL NEED TO BE PUT OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF GIVING LEGAL ADVICE ON FEDERAL INCOME TAX MATTERS!!!!

Joe Note: The following segments are also included in his 50 page report. He will send this complete report to you if you request it, by allowing me to send him your contact info.

ALL OF YOU ARE USING THE WRONG . . . STATE CONSTITUTIONS!!!!


THE ORIGINAL U.S. CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN SUSPENDED!!!!


THE ORIGINAL U.S. CONSTITUTION IS CURRENTLY BEING HELD IN . . . CUSTODY . . . OF . . . “THE NATIONAL MILITARY ARCHIVES” . . . AS HAS BEEN THEIR EVER SINCE IT WAS FIRST CAPTURED WHEN MARTIAL LAW WAS DECLARED IN 1860.


THE VALID U.S. CONSTITUTION HAS NEVER BEEN AMENDED TO GO PAST THE TWELFTH AMENDMENT!!!!


THE VALID U.S. CONSTITUTION DOES NOT HAVE A 13th, 14th, 15th . . . OR . . . SIXTEENTH AMENDMENT ON IT!!!!


THAT’S RIGHT, . . . THE VALID U.S. CONSTITUTION . . . THAT IS BEING HELD . . . IN CUSTODY . . . BY . . . “THE NATIONAL MILITARY ARCHIVES” . . . DOES NOT HAVE . . . “A SIXTEENTH AMENDMENT” . . . ON IT!!!!


ALL OF YOU ARE USING THE WRONG . . . U.S. U.S. CONSTITUTION!!!!


ALL OF YOU ARE USING THE 1871 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CONSTITUTION!!!!

====================



#2089 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: Liberty’s Hammer & Anvil radio show on Microeffect: Edwin Vieira as guest
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Yesterday, Edwin Vieira was a guest on Liberty's Hammer and Anvil and
mentioned during that show his latest work on gold clause contracts.
Info about this book is now posted:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin202.htm

I strongly suggest that people get this book.

Larry

#2088 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:21 am
Subject: Re: Liberty’s Hammer & Anvil radio show on Microeffect: Edwin Vieira as guest
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Microeffect Listeners,

On Saturday afternoon, Nov. 21, between 3 to 5 PM (Eastern), 2 to 4 PM
(Central), 1 to 3 PM (Mountain), Noon to 2 PM (Pacific), Liberty’s
Hammer & Anvil radio show (hosted by Larry Becraft and Tom Cryer) will
broadcast on the Microeffect Radio Network, and you may listen over the
Net here:

http://www.themicroeffect.com/listenlive.htm

Our guests for Sat’s show will be Edwin Vieira, author of Pieces of
Eight, the definitive work on the money issue.

We would like to hear your own comments, too. We invite your calls:

(208) 935-0094

Larry Becraft

#2087 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:12 pm
Subject: Liberty’s Hammer & Anvil radio show on Microeffect
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Microeffect Listeners,

On Saturday afternoon, Nov. 14, between 3 to 5 PM (Eastern), 2 to 4 PM
(Central), 1 to 3 PM (Mountain), Noon to 2 PM (Pacific), Liberty’s
Hammer & Anvil radio show (hosted by Larry Becraft and Tom Cryer) will
broadcast on the Microeffect Radio Network, and you may listen over the
Net here:

http://www.themicroeffect.com/listenlive.htm

Our guests for Sat’s show will be Dane vonBreichenbruchardt of the US
Bill of Rights Foundation in DC, who will give us an update about
damnable federal legislation (he lives up on the Hill trying to get
Liberty accepted). Another guest will be Tom Selgas, who has a money
issue case pending in Texas.

We would like to hear your own comments, too. We invite your calls:

(208) 935-0094

Larry Becraft

#2086 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:18 pm
Subject: Re: CRISIS IN AMERICA
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Please send this to everyone!
Jeffrey A. Dickstein
Attorney at Law
500 W. Bradley Rd., C-208
Fox Point, WI 53217
(414) 446-4264
jdlaw@...
http://jeffdickstein.com

CRITICAL ACTION ALERT
AMERICA IN CRISIS

Federal Court Totally Eliminates Free Speech and Right to Defend
(
see how)

William J. Benson uncovered a massive government fraud and publicized his findings. The federal government accused him of making false statements.

Benson attempted to defend by submitting evidence of the truth of what he was saying. That evidence consisted of official, certified, government documents he personally obtained by visiting Washington, D.C., and the capitols of all forty-eight states. Unable to contest this evidence, a federal district court judge threw out the evidence and found Benson guilty.

Such conduct is prohibited by the First and Fifth Amendments which preclude the government from:
No. 1 - Acting as invincible tyrants who can censor and punish speech because it proves wholesale government theft; and

No. 2 - Charging someone with illegal conduct and refusing them the right to defend against those charges. 
Benson's case is now before the United States Supreme Court.

We must let government know we will not tolerate being accused of lying about government misconduct and denied the right to prove our innocence. We must protect our right to freedom of speech and we must protect our right to defend in court.

We've made it fast, safe and free to let your voice be heard. Just click here. In a few seconds you can send an e-mail to local and national TV and Radio Stations, to Congress, and sign a petition for Redress of Grievance. 

FightBackNow.US

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak out for me.

--Pastor Martin Niemoller








#2085 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:33 pm
Subject: Re: Padelford case
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Lewis,

I do not place much credence in that isolated statement. Judges write
opinions for the purpose of explaining how they reached certain results
and conclusions. If a decision by a Supreme Court, it applies in that
jurisdiction. It has no effect in other jurisdictions. But then again
over time, an opinion containing “dicta” may not be upheld in the
future. That statement about "not being a party to the constitution"
conflicts with other authority. Let me explain.

That statement needs to be examined in the appropriate context. The
Georgia Supreme Court that rendered that decision in 1854 was created by
the Georgia Constitution of 1798, which is posted here:

http://georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu/con1798.htm

That 1798 constitution was not adopted by the people, but by a committee
of authorized delegates:

"We the underwritten delegates of the people of the State of Georgia,
chosen and authorized by them to revise, alter or amend the powers and
principles of their government, do declare, ordain, and ratify the
several articles and sections contained in the six pages hereunto
prefixed, as the constitution of this State; and the same shall be in
operation from the date hereof."

Thus as a matter of fact, the people and citizens of Georgia had nothing
to do with adoption of that 1798 constitution, which was in effect when
the Padelford decision was rendered. But the later Georgia Constitutions
were adopted via approval of the citizens.

That statement that people/persons/citizens were not parties to that
constitution is thus correct. However, most constitutions adopted over
the last 150 years have been adopted by popular vote of the people. In
this respect, I would say that those voting for a constitution are
“parties” to it.

Here in Alabama, our present constitution was adopted in 1901. It
constitutes a charter creating a state govt and, typical of American
constitutions, it created 3 branches. Constitutions create governmental
institutions. The Alabama legislature was granted law-making power via
our 1901 constitution. As a citizen of Alabama, I guess I could consider
myself a “party” to that Constitution in the sense that I, a later
citizen of Alabama, am the posterity of those previous citizens. But in
reality, I was not even born in 1901, and thus clearly was not a "party".

But all this “patriot” chit-chat about being a party to the constitution
is really irrelevant. Under Alabama law, I can complain when govt
violates the constitution, and I have done so many times, including just
a couple of weeks ago when I drafted a motion to suppress for a friend
of mine who needed one quick. Motions to suppress challenge a search
with an argument that such search violated the Constitution. The same
right to complain about constitutional violations exists at the federal
level as well as all other States in this country. Consequently, based
on legal authority I am not going to catalog here, the statement in the
Padelford case is irrelevant.

Larry



Lewis Mohr wrote:
> Dear Tom, Ken, James, and Terry: This is a very interesting case for 2
> reasons: 1, a man is not a party to the constitutions, and 2, the
> supreme court of Georgia is equal to the US Supreme Court. This is
> real cool news to those who would collect taxes by claiming that the
> 16th amendment gives them the authority to collect a tax. From who?
> The constitutions do not apply to a private person. Therefore
> subdivisions of things created by constitutions do not apply to a
> private person. I suppose the mantra for everyone who receives a
> presentment should be"Show me the contract." Also, could the
> commercial agents of this state claim that the Supreme Court of Texas
> is co-equal to the US Supreme Court, or due to the 1854 year of the
> Padelford case being prior to the Civil War a state can no longer
> assert such a claim due to the fact that we no longer even have a
> functioning de jure constitution. This Padelford case make 2 very
> poignant revelations that should cause all to demand full disclosure
> for where does all of the federal agencies get their authority for
> coming into the states and dictating their policy. Hhmm... Have all of
> the state governors surrendered the sovereignty of the states to a
> commercial foreign power? L -o-
>
> Constitutional Law 92 key 665
> 92 Constitutional Law
> 92VI Enforcement of Constitutional Provisions
> 92VI(A) Persons Entitled to Raise
> Constitutional Questions; Standing
> 92VI(A)1 In General
> 92k665 k. In General. Most Cited Cases
> (Formerly 92k42(2))
> No private person has a right to complain by suit in
> court on the ground of a breach of the United States
> constitution; for, though the constitution is a
> compact, he is not a party to it.
>
>
>
> [7.] The Supreme Court of Georgia is co-equal and
> co-ordinate with the Supreme Court of the U. S.;
> and therefore, the latter cannot give the former an
> order, or make for it a precedent

#2084 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:00 pm
Subject: Vote about swine flu
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This article is about Obama's declaration:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/24/obama-declares-hn-flu-national-emergency/

Go to this page and take the survey: Do You Think H1N1 Is a National Emergency?

Most people think this is all media hype. Vote.

Larry



#2083 From: Larry Becraft <becraft@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:50 pm
Subject: Re: Liberty’s Hammer & Anvil radio show on Microeffect
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Microeffect Listeners,

On Saturday afternoon, Oct. 24, between 3 to 5 PM (Eastern), 2 to 4 PM
(Central), 1 to 3 PM (Mountain), Noon to 2 PM (Pacific), Liberty’s
Hammer & Anvil radio show (hosted by Larry Becraft and Tom Cryer) will
broadcast on the Microeffect Radio Network, and you may listen over the
Net here:

http://www.themicroeffect.com/listenlive.htm

Tom is on the road getting ready for Truth Attack Squared, so I will be
the only host. My guests for Sat’s show will be parties involved in a
lawsuit against the FDA raising issues about the swine flu vaccine.

We would like to hear your own comments, too. We invite your calls:

(208) 935-0094

Larry Becraft

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