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... The latter, at least, is not voluntary. It's a coercive interference between two consenting parties -- interfering with their voluntary interactions. ... ...
Dan Ust
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Feb 1, 2009
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27442
... I'm not sure what you mean by this. Why would a state act as said receiver? Let's put a private actor in that statement to see how this concept looks...
Dan Ust
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Feb 1, 2009
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27443
... It should also be noted here that the Constitution (or any constitution), as many others have pointed out, can't enforce itself. IIRC, too, this particular...
Dan Ust
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Feb 1, 2009
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27444
... The problem is: they have to be paid in something. How is that figured? How are you sure that, say, the apple farmer who gets a hundred bushels of apples...
Dan Ust
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Feb 1, 2009
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27445
... That's the crux. You cannot be in favor of a system that is "as voluntary as possible" and simultaneously support a state. Unless, of course, Eric can ...
Thomas Van Wyk
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Feb 1, 2009
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27446
... I agree. ... I also agree with this. My experience has been much the same: minarchists must eventually choose between statism and anarchism. I'd,...
Dan Ust
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Feb 1, 2009
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27447
Well you can't just allow everyone to do what ever they want to do that would be anarchy and I fiqure only a very small percentage of the people that call...
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Feb 1, 2009
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27448
Why is that you don't need taxes to have a state, to have a government?--- In LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Van Wyk ... voluntary as ... possible" ...
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Feb 1, 2009
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27449
Could be partly because most anarchist define their terms so poorly. I mean calling themselves anarchist makes no sense from a promotial standpoint. I mean...
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Feb 1, 2009
4:49 pm
27450
... I'm not advocating everyone run around stealing, raping, and killing. Why would merely ridding ourselves of the state lead to that? (And people already...
Dan Ust
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Feb 1, 2009
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27451
Have you actually READ any serious anarchist literature? ... -- -- Scott Bieser Illustrator, Cartoonist, Designer View my on-line graphic novel _ODYSSEUS THE...
Scott Bieser
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Feb 1, 2009
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27452
... I'm not sure what your question is. Are you asking why you need taxes to have a state? If so, I'm not sure you need them as such, but they tend to go...
Dan Ust
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Feb 1, 2009
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27453
... Name names. Which anarchists have you read who are so poor at defining terms? Rothbard? George H. Smith? Anyone on this list? Care to share any...
Dan Ust
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Feb 1, 2009
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27454
... My experience has been that most minarchists and statists have not read serious anarchist literature. A few have, but most tend to just spun out what they...
Dan Ust
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27455
Well the constitution allowed for Excise taxes as well as the direct poll tax as well as custom duties on imports plus it did allow Congress to allow one or...
terry12622000
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Feb 1, 2009
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27456
Well, sure. I can write a piece of paper entitling me to rob banks, and robbing banks would come in quite handy if people refuse to give me money when I...
Joshua Katz
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Feb 1, 2009
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27457
... Well, certainly, because the vast majority of market anarchists started out as minarchists, then evolved. -- -- Scott Bieser Illustrator, Cartoonist,...
Scott Bieser
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Feb 1, 2009
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27458
There is an option for the federal government if the state refuses to pay, or if a state refuses to obey federal law. Each chamber of Congress can refuse to...
terry12622000
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Feb 1, 2009
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27459
Why is that? A state can be voluntary as well and get all its funds from voluntary means. A state is just another association sometimes it is formed volunterly...
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Feb 1, 2009
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27460
In a message dated 2/1/2009 7:53:50 AM Central Standard Time, ... I believe the whiskey tax was per unit produced, so naturally the larger producers would pay...
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Feb 1, 2009
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27461
The evidence available suggests that he's never read anything. JR...
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Feb 1, 2009
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27462
Okay. Now I am convinced. You really haven't read any real anarchist lit. You might define a state differently, but keep in mind when you're arguing with...
Thomas Van Wyk
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Feb 1, 2009
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In a message dated 2/1/2009 11:44:37 AM Central Standard Time, ... That may be your belief but it is hardly the description of actual practice. Federal courts...
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Feb 1, 2009
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27464
... Didn't think that needed pointing out. :) Regards, Dan...
Dan Ust
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Feb 1, 2009
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27465
... Nominally, that may have been true, but the large distilleries were probably in a better position to absorb the costs. Even if a tax is levied "equally"...
Thomas Van Wyk
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Feb 1, 2009
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27466
... I don't recall it being equal for large and small distillers. I don't have the book handy, but here's the Wikipedia article: ...
Dan Ust
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Feb 1, 2009
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27467
But if you write a piece of paper giving your neighbor permission to cross your lawn if he pays you that would be acceptable. Local roads and streets are...
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Feb 1, 2009
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27468
What state or you talking about getting rid of? --- In ... killing. Why would merely ridding...
terry12622000
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Feb 1, 2009
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27469
... Any involuntary ones -- which, to me, means all states. Which do you propose not getting rid of? Regards, Dan...
Dan Ust
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Feb 1, 2009
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27470
Dan I know where you are coming from but what I'm saying is using the word anarchist is a very bad promotial tool. Of course people can call themself what they...
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