Isn't a major distinction between left and right libertarians how
left-libertarians treat the just appropriation of land?

left Rothbardians - mixing one's labor
mutualists - occupancy and use
geoists - sharing economic rent

bg

--- In LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com, "kurtjhorner"
<entelechy77@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm fairly sure James asked the distinction between left and right
> libertarians, not the distinctions among left libertarians.
>
> - Kurt
>
>
> --- In LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com, "BGreen" <erm4you@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com, "kurtjhorner"
> > entelechy77@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Alas, long posts aren't really appropriate for introductions.
> They're
> > > much more suited to bitter semantic debates about the meaning of the
> > > word "rent." (Hair-splitting being the official sport of the
> libertarian
> > > movement.)
> > >
> > >
> > > As for what constitutes "left" libertarianism -- I would say that
> the
> > > key difference is whether you take social factors like racism,
> religion
> > > and distribution of wealth as givens or whether these things may
> also be
> > > a product of (or encouraged by) state intervention. "Right"
> > > libertarians tend to be insensitive to these matters and tend to
> snipe
> > > at left wing critiques of those matters as simply excuses for new
> > > government powers. The left libertarian sees these critiques from
> the
> > > traditional left as very important -- it's just the proposed
> solutions
> > > that are problematic.
> > >
> >
> > Kurt-
> >
> > after a quip about hairsplitting on rent you then claim the key
> > difference is social?
> >
> > let me properly fill in the newcomer...the key differences BETWEEN
> > left-libertarians is over natural resources.
> >
> > left Rothbardians believe most all land titles are in violation of
> > Lockean property rights (mixing one's labor to homestead via first
> > appropriation).
> >
> > mutualists believe just appropriation can only occur via continued
> > occupancy and use (no landlordism).
> >
> > geoists believe that exclusive use (not caring about homesteading or
> > occupancy and use) can only be just if no one is economically harmed
> > (by sharing the economic rent).
> >
> > Kevin is on good terms with both left Rothbardians and geoists but
> > generally disgusted with our level and volume of discourse and neither
> > the left Rothbardians nor geoists can find any common ground.
> > (although Roderick, Charles and Brad have made specific forays and
> > inroads as it relates to common right of ways). Fred Folvary calls
> > himself a geo-anarchist and does pretty well in the left Rothbardian
> > crowd because he is seems particularly sympathetic to polycentric law
> > systems.
> >
> > I myself am a geo-mutualist. A mutualist with a critical eye towards
> > privilege, in every way except land.
> >
> > welcome and strap on your hockey helmet tight!
> >
> > bg
> >
>