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#40861 From: "Darrell" <darbet@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:36 pm
Subject: RE: [LR] Re: The authority of the Bible
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Kris,

 

So, I suppose you think Harold Camping’s studies should be pulled off the air since he mentions the Yellowstone volcanoes.   Is it just possible that you’re over reacting here?  I see several folks wrapping their holy garments around themselves as though they are the only ones who follow the Bible.  And now, there are certain topics that we must not discuss when witnessing to others.  Just so you know, I personally have not conducted a witnessing session focused on the Yellowstone volcanoes.  Does this help alleviate your concerns?

 

Act 18:14  And when Paul was now about to open his mouth, Gallio said unto the Jews, If it were a matter of wrong or wicked lewdness, O ye Jews, reason would that I should bear with you:15  But if it be a question of words and names, and of your law, look ye to it; for I will be no judge of such matters.16  And he drave them from the judgment seat.

 

Fear God and give glory to Him,

Darrell Lockridge 

 

From: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kris Vonderahe
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:31 PM
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LR] Re: The authority of the Bible

 

 

Mark, I agree.

Hopefully, folks will not work the super volcano theory into their witnessing. Otherwise, the unsaved may fear the volcano, instead of fearing God.

"And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them." (Genesis 6:7)

"Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail." (Revelation 11:17-19)

Kris Vonderahe

--- In Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com, Mark Abraham <markabraham114@...> wrote:
>
> LR,
>
> Please, I feel that this topic has gone on long enough, let us all examine the Holy Words of God Almighty..........
>
> Re 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.
>
> The lesson here should be if scientists are predicting/prophesying that a super volcanoes will destroy this earth.....are we looking for signs and wonders? We would be no different than the people of this world that are still in the churches...... The Bible states that the LORD Jesus Christ God Almighty destroys the earth........who are U going to believe the scientists who come with a false gospel who states that the earth is 6.4 billions of years old .......Or are we going to put our trust in the word of God...... I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked.....If we put the authority of science equal the the authority of the Bible we be making a grave mistake!...........How do WE know this for the Bible tells US so.
>
> So let us all pray that God will save us, our enemies, our families, loved ones, neighbors, coworkers because " WE ARE ALMOST THERE "...........And if anyone should ask us , how do we know?.....are we going to respond well even the scientists say that super volcanoes are going to erupt at anytime.......Or are we going to tell them that the Bible declares that on May 21, 2011 will begin the time of judgment when there will no longer be the free gift of salvation.
>
> That's just how serious this matter is.............
>
> Brother Mark Abraham
>


#40862 From: arturo meuniot <ggbiw_1999@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:02 pm
Subject: Re: [LR] Re: The authority of the Bible
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May I ask, if a person fears a volcanoe eruption because it was brought to his attention from a witness of the wrath to come from the greatest earthquake man will ever see May 21 2011, what possible harm could that be? It is God Almighty that draws His elect into fear of the Lord,not anything we do or say.I  myself,want to know the Yellowstone volcanoe is rumbling many earthquakes and do not see it leading any of God's elect astray.NOTHING can thwart God's children from coming home. I judge no man ,I'm just making an observation to all the posts on the super volcanoe causing many earthquakes. May God Bless ALL seeking Salvation day and night with fear and trembling.    arturo meuniot
--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Kris Vonderahe <backcountrybum@...> wrote:

From: Kris Vonderahe <backcountrybum@...>
Subject: [LR] Re: The authority of the Bible
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 8:31 AM

 
Mark, I agree.

Hopefully, folks will not work the super volcano theory into their witnessing. Otherwise, the unsaved may fear the volcano, instead of fearing God.

"And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them." (Genesis 6:7)

"Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail." (Revelation 11:17-19)

Kris Vonderahe

--- In Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com, Mark Abraham <markabraham114@ ...> wrote:
>
> LR,
>
> Please, I feel that this topic has gone on long enough, let us all examine the Holy Words of God Almighty.... ......
>
> Re 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.
>
> The lesson here should be if scientists are predicting/prophesy ing that a super volcanoes will destroy this earth.....are we looking for signs and wonders? We would be no different than the people of this world that are still in the churches.... .. The Bible states that the LORD Jesus Christ God Almighty destroys the earth....... .who are U going to believe the scientists who come with a false gospel who states that the earth is 6.4 billions of years old .......Or are we going to put our trust in the word of God...... I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked.....If we put the authority of science equal the the authority of the Bible we be making a grave mistake!.... .......How do WE know this for the Bible tells US so.
>
> So let us all pray that God will save us, our enemies, our families, loved ones, neighbors, coworkers because " WE ARE ALMOST THERE "........... And if anyone should ask us , how do we know?.....are we going to respond well even the scientists say that super volcanoes are going to erupt at anytime..... ..Or are we going to tell them that the Bible declares that on May 21, 2011 will begin the time of judgment when there will no longer be the free gift of salvation.
>
> That's just how serious this matter is.......... ...
>
> Brother Mark Abraham
>



#40863 From: TomHoltII@...
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: [LR] Judgment Day Proofs - Joe
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will you be posting the proofs you have collected?  You are correct about this subject....we all should be conversant with detailed proofs that Christ, and Judgment Day, will come in less than 18 months...I hope Family Radio unifies all known Bible proofs into an UPGRADED "WE ARE ALMOST THERE" soon...
In 1994, I recall being in serious contact with 26 proofs about 1994---a critical Bible year.
Tom Holt
Titus 2:13
 
In a message dated 11/22/2009 8:38:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rapturemay2111@... writes:
There are 17 months and 29 days left before Judgment Day.  Over the next weeks we will be hosting and attending many holiday celebrations as well as sending our annual cards.  This is the time for witnessing Gods truth of the end.  I know the truth now, only recently, and am not as familiar to cite them as most of you are. I need your help.  I have the tracts, We are almost There, To God Be The Glory.  But has anyone compiled in one short summary of all the proofs now revealed?  From my reading of various studies I have identified about 20, some major some minor but all by the Grace of God and His mercy.  I would like to give this document with references to further study to my family and friends this week and holiday season.  we all desperately need to know.

thanks for your help,
Joe



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#40864 From: Louis Erasmus <ras.elect@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:10 am
Subject: Rom 3:26
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Dear LR,

On Open forum tonight someone asked about Rom 3:26. I checked this years ago and the translation "in" is correct. We just have to understand that the context is speaking of the saved. In Gal 2:20 we read that the saved live by the Faith of the Son of God. Please also check the the literal translation. We live in the faith of the Son of God. So that agrees perfectly with Rom 3:26.

(KJV) Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

(KJV) Galatians 3:26  for ye are all sons of God through the faith in Christ Jesus,

(YLT) Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

(YLT) Galatians 2:20  with Christ I have been crucified, and live no more do I, and Christ doth live in me; and that which I now live in the flesh—in the faith I live of the Son of God, who did love me and did give himself for me;

Habakkuk 2:4 Behold, his soul [which] is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.


Louis Erasmus

#40865 From: Louis Erasmus <ras.elect@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:15 am
Subject: Rom 3:26
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In my last e-mail I had my translations references a bit mixed up. It should read :

On Open forum tonight someone asked about Rom 3:26. I checked this years ago and the translation "in" is correct. We just have to understand that the context is speaking of the saved. In Gal 2:20 we read that the saved live by the Faith of the Son of God. Please also check the the literal translation. We live in the faith of the Son of God. So that agrees perfectly with Rom 3:26.

(KJV) Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

(YLT) Galatians 3:26  for ye are all sons of God through the faith in Christ Jesus,

(KJV) Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

(YLT) Galatians 2:20  with Christ I have been crucified, and live no more do I, and Christ doth live in me; and that which I now live in the flesh—in the faith I live of the Son of God, who did love me and did give himself for me;

(KJV) Habakkuk 2:4 Behold, his soul [which] is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.


Louis Erasmus



#40866 From: GaryHiggs@...
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:51 pm
Subject: Re: [LR] Rom 3:26
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Hi Louis:
 
Yes, I recall these verses and it is the faith of Jesus Christ. We can know this by the verses you gave and many other's, since "faith" is one of the fruits of the Spirit of God we can know it is not our faith it is the faith that comes from the Spirit of God that is in every believer. Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith, we can call it our faith because it was given to us as a gift, both the grace and the faith is the gift of God, Eph. 2:8-9. Jesus is called "faithful and true" He (Jesus) that has begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is the work of God that we believe on Him, John 6:29. You see how all these tie together in perfect harmony? God is good. Thank you.
 
                   Gary

#40867 From: Sean Farmer <lightofchrist67@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:04 am
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)
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Hi Darrell,
 
 Thanks for the post on this. I was actually laughing a little at your post because I was starting to wonder if it was you that was going off the deep end for a while. I'm saying this in a joking way because I can now see that you're explaining this in a manner that makes much more sense in that you are seeing this as "a possibility" and not in an absolute manner. We had talked about this last night in the May 21, 2011 Judgement Day room on Paltalk and I don't see any problems with it when it's looked at as a possible way this destruction and death may occur.
 
 
 To God Be The Glory!
 
  Sean

From: Darrell <darbet@...>
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 12:15:43 PM
Subject: RE: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)

 

Re: I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked

 

You guys are really starting go off the deep end.  No one is trusting in scientists and we’re not offering studies on geology.  This discussion concerns one point: on May 21, 2011 there will be a real earthquake (which MAY come from a volcano) that will cause many deaths (POSSIBLY millions) .  Now, the other day I also mentioned that scientists discovered dinosaur bones which contained blood vessels--thus supporting the young earth idea.   These types of discussion fit in the area of creation science.  So, calm down fellas.  No one is interested in speaking in tongues, being slain in the spirit or praying to virgin Mary statues.      

 

Fear God and give glory to Him,

Darrell Lockridge

 

 

From: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Latter_ Rain@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of bible read
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:43 AM
To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible

 

 

Mark,

Okay weird... first off, I'm a scientist (a chemist).  So you're labeling of science/scientists is rather dogmatic.  No matter what a "scientist" studies, sin is on that individual.  In fact, in general in LR, I see this same strange labeling of scientists, especially w.r.t. Darwinism or archeology.

 

Secondly (and here's what's weird), I agree with you Mark.  Some have taken Yellowstone' s potential for explosion on/near judgement day beyond a curiosity.  There's this strange need by others to validate the volcano hypothesis, even though you make very valid points.

 

Let us return to God's word,

John Newberg

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Mark Abraham <markabraham114@ yahoo.com> wrote:

 

LR,

Please, I feel that this topic has gone on long enough, let us all examine the Holy Words of God Almighty.... ......

Re 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. 

The lesson here should be if scientists are predicting/prophesy ing that a super volcanoes will destroy this earth.....are we looking for signs and wonders?  We would be no different than the people of this world that are still in the churches.... .. The Bible states that the LORD Jesus Christ God Almighty destroys the earth....... .who are U going to believe the scientists who come with a false gospel who states that the earth is 6.4 billions of years old .......Or are we going to put our trust in the word of God...... I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked.....If we put the authority of science equal the the authority of the Bible we be making a grave mistake!..... .......How do WE know this for the Bible tells US so.

So let us all pray that God will save us, our enemies, our families, loved ones, neighbors, coworkers because " WE ARE ALMOST THERE "...........And if anyone should ask us , how do we know?.....are we going to respond well even the scientists say that super volcanoes are going  to erupt at anytime..... ..Or are we going to tell them that the Bible declares that on May 21, 2011 will begin the time of judgment when there will no longer be the free gift of salvation.

That's just how serious this matter is.......... ...

Brother Mark Abraham

 

 



#40868 From: Sean Farmer <lightofchrist67@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:47 am
Subject: Re: [LR] Dinosaur skeleton with blood vessels
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Darrell,
 
 This was a great post and I'm actually surprised it didn't get any responses, as I had thought it would. It's amazing how we never hear of these types of discoveries by the general media. If it somehow supported the theory of evolution you can be sure it would have been all over the news! It seems to me that the closer we get to the end the more God is allowing people to discover things that back up the truth and glorify his creation as well as prove the flood is not just a fable.
 
 
To God Be The Glory!
 
Sean


From: Darrell <darbet@...>
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 4:06:36 PM
Subject: [LR] Dinosaur skeleton with blood vessels

 

LR,

 

Did you hear about Mary Schweitzer’s dinosaur discovery?  In 2006, Schweitzer discovered a T. Rex dinosaur that still contained traces of blood vessels.  Now, the problem is that scientists believe the T. Rex died 65 million years ago.   But these blood vessels prove that T. Rex was only thousands of years old not millions.    Of course, this idea is supported by the Biblical Calendar which shows that the world is only 13,021 years old.  Moreover, we know that all the dinosaurs were destroyed by Noah’s flood 6998 years ago in the year 4990 BC.

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  

 

Schweitzer's Dangerous Discovery

 

Two years ago, Schweitzer gazed through a microscope in her laboratory at North Carolina State University and saw lifelike tissue that had no business inhabiting a fossilized dinosaur skeleton: fibrous matrix, stretchy like a wet scab on human skin; what appeared to be supple bone cells, their three-dimensional shapes intact; and translucent blood vessels that looked as if they could have come straight from an ostrich at the zoo.
 
 By all the rules of paleontology, such traces of life should have long since drained from the bones. It's a matter of faith among scientists that soft tissue can survive at most for a few tens of thousands of years, not the 65 million since T. rex walked what's now the Hell Creek Formation in Montana.

 

http://discovermaga zine.com/ 2006/apr/ dinosaur- dna  

 

 

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#40869 From: GaryHiggs@...
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:53 pm
Subject: Fwd: [LR] Re: A request to Darrell, Chris, Gary, Sean etc., a study on resur...
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Hi Sally:
 
Sorry it took so long to answer some of your questions,
 
"And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places." Eph. 1:19-20.
 
This seems like a question, what is the exceeding greatness of His power to us-ward who believe. It is the power of the resurrection that we have hope. We see that those that believe comes from the power of the work of God.
 
"Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the WORK OF GOD, that ye BELIEVE on him whom he hath sent." John 6:29
 
It is all the work of God that one believes thus, God gets all the glory, it is the power of the gospel that gives the believer hope,
 
"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the POWER of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek." Romans 1:16.
 
The power is, when God raised Jesus from the dead this happened from the foundation of the world, and Jesus demonstrated this again in 33 AD it is the WORKING of His power. How could it be that Jesus would show us this demonstration of the love and greatness of His power towards the one that He gives faith to believe, truly, how great thou art.
 
"And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation and glory, and honour, and POWER, unto the Lord our God." Rev. 19:1.
 
We truly have much to be grateful, that is, the salvation of God, the glory of God in Christ Jesus and the POWER unto the Lord our God. For those that are in Christ Jesus the second death has no POWER over the saved.
 
"Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath NO POWER, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and he shall reign with him a thousand years." Rev. 20:6.
 
What is the second death that has no power over the believer? The second death is both the soul and body are forever dead this is called the second death. Those that have not experienced the first resurrection that is being born from above by the word and the Spirit of God, John 3:5, 1 Peter 1:23. The dead will be cast into the lake of fire on the last day.
 
"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is called the SECOND DEATH" Rev. 20:14.
 
"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches: He that overcometh shall NOT be hurt of the SECOND DEATH." Rev. 2:11
 
The only ones that will hear are the true believer's for my sheep HEAR my voice and they follow me wherever I go. For it is those that will not be hurt by the second death that is, forever separated from the presence of God dead forever in both soul and body.
 
We get a glimpse of the power of God in the power of a resurrected soul.
 
"To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory, and majesty, dominion and POWER, both NOW and FOREVER, Amen." Jude 25. Listen to these lovely words,
 
"Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding ALL things by the word of his POWER, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on high." Hebrews 1:3.
 
Who being the brightness of his glory. This reminds me of Moses when he came down from the mount after seeing God not face to face for he could not see the full power and glory of God in this body and live no, he seen the back of his glory and Moses beamed with the glory of God. Remember Jesus on the mount of transfiguration? What happened to Jesus? He was also beaming with the brightness as the glory of God. Let the Lord be glorified.
 
                     Gary Higgins
 

Hi guys,
I would really love to see a study or discussion of the "the exceeding greatness of His power to usward who believe, according to the working of His mighty power which He wrought in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and set (him) at His own right hand in the heavenly places." (Ephesians 1:19,20) and "That I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His suffering being made conformable unto His death." Philippians 3:10

I believe we haven't seen how great His power is, especially in light of what we have been learning about the cost of our redemption paid from the foundation of the world.

God is my strength and power,
Sally Okumura

--- In Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com, "Darrell" <darbet@...> wrote:
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> Hello Lili,
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> Sorry for the late response. I’ve been busy with a work-related class among other things. I don’t have much more to add about the 42 encampments--other than the fact that the number 42 points to the great tribulation period.
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> The baby is doing great. Unfortunately though, he’s a little spoiled because his sisters hold him too much. As a result, he cries when no one is holding him.
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> Hope all is well with you. Thanks for sharing the comments about the word “mockers”.
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> Fear God and give glory to Him,
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> Darrell Lockridge
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> From: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of littlerocky5
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:08 PM
> To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [LR] Day Of Temptation (Aaron and the Waters of Meribah) Darrell
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> Darrell,
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> I was reading your post on the unusual articles regarding May 21, 2011 and how they relate to 2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers <1703> Epiktas, walking after their own lusts. The second time Epiktas is used is in Jud 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers <1703> Epiktas in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
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> I started a word search on "mockers" and "scoffers". I ran across something interesting and perhaps you can elaborate more. The word Epiktas <1703>(masculine noun) come from the word Empizo <1702>. The greek word Empizo comes from root words <1722> em and <3815> pizo. The greek word pizo <3815> is only found in one other place, 1Co 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. <3815>. I was reminded of your study on Aaron and the Waters of Meribah.
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> Also could you kindly talk a little bit more about the 42 encampments. Thank you
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> I hope you and your family are well. Please send my love to Beth. How is the baby?
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> Love In Christ,
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> Lili Zamora
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> --- In Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com, "Darrell" <darbet@> wrote:
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> > Lili,
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> > Good insight on the word moltenâ€"I had not noticed that before. As for Egypt, I agree that it points to the bondage of sin which affects all of the unsaved. However, I do believe the 42 encampments in the wilderness typifies the great tribulation. And of course, the entrance into the promise land points to the completion of our salvation. Would you agree?
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> > Darrell Lockridge
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> > From: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lili
> > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:44 AM
> > To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [LR] Day Of Temptation (Aaron and the Waters of Meribah)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Darrell & Tom,
> >
> >
> >
> > It is curious to me that the Lord calls the golden calf a molten <h4541> calf.
> >
> >
> >
> > Exo 32:8
> >
> > They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten <h4541> calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was reminded of what Tom said earlier, I believe the Parable of Egypt is not coming out of the churches, but of salvation and the New Birth--being drawn out of the bondage and the prison house of sin, solely by God's Grace....
> >
> >
> >
> > The following verses came up when I looked at the word <h4541> molten.
> >
> >
> >
> > Deu 27:15 Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.
> >
> >
> >
> > Neh 9:18 Yea, when they had made them a molten calf, and said, This is thy God that brought thee up out of Egypt, and had wrought great provocations;
> >
> >
> >
> > Neh 9:19 Yet thou in thy manifold mercies forsookest them not in the wilderness: the pillar of the cloud departed not from them by day, to lead them in the way; neither the pillar of fire by night, to shew them light, and the way wherein they should go.
> >
> >
> >
> > May the Lord provide His grace and mercy.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lili Zamora
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 10/18/09, Darrell darbet@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Darrell darbet@
> > Subject: RE: [LR] Day Of Temptation (Aaron and the Waters of Meribah)
> > To: TomHoltII@, Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 6:08 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> >
> >
> > Re: It seems the specific "Provocation" was the making of the Golden Calf, and the "Day', the day Moses came down from Sinai with the 10 Commandments, when he smashed them. [Ex 19ff] Notice how fierce God's anger, that He condemned almost all of 2 Million Jews to eternal damnation for this wicked rebellion--- most would never see the Promised Land....
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for this excellent study. I agree that the day of temptation is focused on the provocation which led Israel to worship the golden calf. When we examine the Old Testament account of this provocation (Strong’s 04808) we find that this rebellion took place at the waters of Meribah. In fact, in Deuteronomy 32:51 the word provocation is translated as Meribah-Kadesh.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Heb 3:8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
> >
> >
> >
> > Ps 95:8 Harden not your heart, as in the provocation <04808>, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
> >
> >
> >
> > Nu 27:14 For ye rebelled against my commandment in the desert of Zin, in the strife <04808> of the congregation, to sanctify me at the water before their eyes: that is the water of Meribah in Kadesh in the wilderness of Zin.
> >
> >
> >
> > De 32:51 Because ye trespassed against me among the children of Israel at the waters of Meribahâ€"Kadesh <04808>, in the wilderness of Zin; because ye sanctified me not in the midst of the children of Israel.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In Numbers 20:24 we read that God prevented Aaron from entering the promise land because he rebelled at the water of Meribah by making the golden calf. Could it be that Aaron is being used as a picture of an earthly priesthood which has the potential to lead mankind into temptation? In this sense, the WATERS of Meribah represent the word of Godâ€"it is the means by which God proves/tests the Levitical priesthood to see if they will remain faithful (Deuteronomy 33:8).
> >
> >
> >
> > Nu 20:13 This is the water of Meribah; because the children of Israel strove with the LORD, and he was sanctified in them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nu 20:24 Aaron shall be gathered unto his people: for he shall not enter into the land which I have given unto the children of Israel, because ye rebelled against my word at the water of Meribah.
> >
> >
> >
> > De 33:8 And of Levi he said, Let thy Thummim and thy Urim be with thy holy one, whom thou didst prove at Massah, and with whom thou didst strive at the waters of Meribah; 9 Who said unto his father and to his mother, I have not seen him; neither did he acknowledge his brethren, nor knew his own children: for they have observed thy word, and kept thy covenant.10 They shall TEACH Jacob thy judgments, and Israel thy law: they shall put incense before thee, and whole burnt sacrifice upon thine altar.11 Bless, LORD, his substance, and accept the work of his hands: smite through the loins of them that rise against him, and of them that hate him, that they rise not again.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ps 81:7 Thou calledst in trouble, and I delivered thee; I answered thee in the secret place of thunder: I proved thee at the waters of Meribah. Selah.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Now, we know that Aaron died at the age of 123 years. In Numbers 33:38 we read that he died in the 40th year after Israel left Egypt. According to Hebrews 3:15 and Acts 7:37-42, during this 40-year period, Israel turned their hearts away from God after Aaron made the golden calf.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nu 33:38 And Aaron the priest went up into mount Hor at the commandment of the LORD, and died there, in the fortieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the first day of the fifth month. 39 And Aaron was an hundred and twenty and three years old when he died in mount Hor.
> >
> >
> >
> > Heb 3:15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. 16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
> >
> >
> >
> > Acts 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:39 To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,40 Saying unto Aaron, Make us gods to go before us: for as for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.41 And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness?
> >
> >
> >
> > My point is that the day of temptation began when Aaron the priest made the golden calf. However, Aaron was not punished for this rebellion until 40 years later at the age of 123 years. In this sense, the day of temptation is identified with the 40 years of testing. God is testing the congregation as well as the priesthood to see if they will remain faithful. I believe the number 123 is identified with the number 23 which represents judgment. This judgment will come on those who fail the test. During the 23 year tribulation, the believers (who are of a royal priesthood) will also be tested for 2300 days to see if they will remain faithful during the hour of temptation. In this sense, the believers are identified with the Levitical priesthood.
> >
> >
> >
> > Re 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting time lines:
> >
> >
> >
> > Aaron’s birth: 1530 BC
> >
> > Aaron’s death: 1407 BC
> >
> > Total: 123 years
> >
> >
> >
> > 1523 years from Aaron’s birth to Christ’s birth--the Jubilee year of 7 BC. In 7 BC, Christ replaced Aaron as the true high priest.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3523 years from Aaron’s birth to the Jubilee year of 1994 AD. After 2300 days of desolation, the priesthood of the believers moved from the church to ministries outside the church.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Fear God and give glory to Him,
> >
> > Darrell Lockridge
> >
> >
> >
> > From: TomHoltII@aol. com [mailto:TomHoltII@ aol.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 10:32 AM
> > To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: Re: [LR] Day Of Temptation?
> >
> >
> >
> > Darrell, Hebrews 3&4 highlight the failure of the Jews to find their Sabbath "rest" in God's saving Grace, which/Who miraculously drew them out of Egypt...how quickly they fell away when Moses went up Sinai for 40 days; they hardened their hearts, making a golden calf. This is all a picture of all of us too--except for God's continuing Grace, clearly we'd quickly all fall away. In knowing perhaps thousands of friends of Family Radio for 17 years, many now appear to have no interest in the Bible, especially after 1994, and 2001 [when Family Radio showed from Scripture how God had abandoned all congregations] .
> >
> > There's something involved here, that may not be noticed...most of the 2.3 Billion current professing christians appear to believe they are saved and will attain Heaven based one something they have DONE: believed, repented, confessed with their mouth, been baptized, joined a church, figured out the Bible, done good, accepted Jesus, chose Christ, found the Lord, followed Jesus, called on the Lord, etc.
> >
> > Yet the 4th Commandment in Deut 5:12-15 [and its parallel in Ex 20:8-11] is highlighted by God, and it is the centerpiece of the Decalogue given on the Mount....Did you notice it is about as long as the other 9 Commands put together?....and is twice as long in BOTH sites, and, since the 4th Command is quite different in the 2 sites in Exodus and Deuteronomy, and since the other 9 Commands are virtually identical, God has designed the 4th Commandment as TWICE as long as the other 9, put together.
> >
> > God has applied a "Laser light" to the 4th Commandment by this.
> >
> > Anyone who believes there is anything they have done---if there's any one thing they contributed, they have failed to keep the Sabbath - the 4th Command, and they too will be "stoned to death" as the man in Numbers 15 and 16, "picking up sticks on the Sabbath". This "Sabbath religion" is preposterous to the entire world - particularly the professing christian world.
> >
> > Most of my life, I was blinded to this meaning of the 4th Commandment.
> >
> > In 1447 BC in the Wilderness, God began to give the Bible, after the Red Sea and deliverance from Bondage in Egypt. It seems the specific "Provocation" was the making of the Golden Calf, and the "Day', the day Moses came down from Sinai with the 10 Commandments, when he smashed them. [Ex 19ff] Notice how fierce God's anger, that He condemned almost all of 2 Million Jews to eternal damnation for this wicked rebellion--- most would never see the Promised Land....
> >
> > I believe the Parable of Egypt is not coming out of the churches, but of salvation and the New Birth--being drawn out of the bondage and the prison house of sin, solely by God's Grace....but, I'm open to learning more about the Egyptian Parable.
> >
> > I find "exhortation" to be only offering Scripture by comparing spiritual with spiritual - [I Cor 2] this exercise involves using only Word studies...all else seems to be simply human opinion.
> >
> > Tom Holt
> >
> > Acts 13:48
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/16/2009 2:46:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, darbet@tks-net. com writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > LR,
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone share thoughts on Hebrews 3:8-16? Questions to consider include:
> >
> >
> >
> > What is the day of temptation? Is this day referring to Israel’s 40 year sojourn in the wilderness?
> >
> > Is the wilderness referring to a place outside the church (Egypt)?
> >
> > How do we â€Ĺ"exhort one another daily”?
> >
> > How does Hebrews 3:8 relate to Psalms 95:6?
> >
> >
> > Heb 3:8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation <3986> in the wilderness: 9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. 16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
> >
> >
> > Ps 95: 6 O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker.7 For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will HEAR HIS VOICE, 8 Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Fear God and give glory to Him,
> >
> > Darrell Lockridge
> >
>


#40870 From: Mark Abraham <markabraham114@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:21 am
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible( Declare the whole counsel of God )
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LR,
 
The Truth will make you free:
 
"It is better to be divided by truth than to be united in error. It is better to speak the truth that hurts and then heals, than falsehood that comforts and then kills. Let me tell you something, friend, IT IS NOT LOVE AND IT IS NOT FRIENDSHIP IF WE FAIL TO DECLARE THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD. It is better to be hated for telling the truth, than to be loved for telling a lie. It is impossible to find anyone in the Bible who was a power for God who did not have enemies and was not hated. IT IS BETTER TO STAND ALONE WITH THE TRUTH, THAN TO BE WRONG WITH THE MULTITUDE. It is better to ultimately succeed with the truth than temporarily succeed with a lie. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOSPEL, AND PAUL SAID, 'IF ANY MAN PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL UNTO YOU THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU, LET HIM BE ACCURSED.'"

written by Adrian Rodgers
 
 
For what it's worth............thank you
 
Brother Mark Abraham


From: Sean Farmer <lightofchrist67@...>
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 10:04:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)

 

Hi Darrell,
 
 Thanks for the post on this. I was actually laughing a little at your post because I was starting to wonder if it was you that was going off the deep end for a while. I'm saying this in a joking way because I can now see that you're explaining this in a manner that makes much more sense in that you are seeing this as "a possibility" and not in an absolute manner. We had talked about this last night in the May 21, 2011 Judgement Day room on Paltalk and I don't see any problems with it when it's looked at as a possible way this destruction and death may occur.
 
 
 To God Be The Glory!
 
  Sean

From: Darrell <darbet@tks-net. com>
To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 12:15:43 PM
Subject: RE: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)

 

Re: I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked

 

You guys are really starting go off the deep end.  No one is trusting in scientists and we’re not offering studies on geology.  This discussion concerns one point: on May 21, 2011 there will be a real earthquake (which MAY come from a volcano) that will cause many deaths (POSSIBLY millions) .  Now, the other day I also mentioned that scientists discovered dinosaur bones which contained blood vessels--thus supporting the young earth idea.   These types of discussion fit in the area of creation science.  So, calm down fellas.  No one is interested in speaking in tongues, being slain in the spirit or praying to virgin Mary statues.      

 

Fear God and give glory to Him,

Darrell Lockridge

 

 

From: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Latter_ Rain@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of bible read
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:43 AM
To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible

 

 

Mark,

Okay weird... first off, I'm a scientist (a chemist).  So you're labeling of science/scientists is rather dogmatic.  No matter what a "scientist" studies, sin is on that individual.  In fact, in general in LR, I see this same strange labeling of scientists, especially w.r.t. Darwinism or archeology.

 

Secondly (and here's what's weird), I agree with you Mark.  Some have taken Yellowstone' s potential for explosion on/near judgement day beyond a curiosity.  There's this strange need by others to validate the volcano hypothesis, even though you make very valid points.

 

Let us return to God's word,

John Newberg

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Mark Abraham <markabraham114@ yahoo.com> wrote:

 

LR,

Please, I feel that this topic has gone on long enough, let us all examine the Holy Words of God Almighty.... ......

Re 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. 

The lesson here should be if scientists are predicting/prophesy ing that a super volcanoes will destroy this earth.....are we looking for signs and wonders?  We would be no different than the people of this world that are still in the churches.... .. The Bible states that the LORD Jesus Christ God Almighty destroys the earth....... .who are U going to believe the scientists who come with a false gospel who states that the earth is 6.4 billions of years old .......Or are we going to put our trust in the word of God...... I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked.....If we put the authority of science equal the the authority of the Bible we be making a grave mistake!.... . .......How do WE know this for the Bible tells US so.

So let us all pray that God will save us, our enemies, our families, loved ones, neighbors, coworkers because " WE ARE ALMOST THERE "........... And if anyone should ask us , how do we know?.....are we going to respond well even the scientists say that super volcanoes are going  to erupt at anytime..... ..Or are we going to tell them that the Bible declares that on May 21, 2011 will begin the time of judgment when there will no longer be the free gift of salvation.

That's just how serious this matter is.......... ...

Brother Mark Abraham

 

 




#40871 From: arturo meuniot <ggbiw_1999@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:43 am
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible( Declare the whole counsel of God )
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Thank you Brother. The truth shall set you free indeed.   Copied and pasted to notepad. God Bless You.      arturo meuniot

--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Mark Abraham <markabraham114@...> wrote:

From: Mark Abraham <markabraham114@...>
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible( Declare the whole counsel of God )
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 10:21 PM

 
LR,
 
The Truth will make you free:
 
"It is better to be divided by truth than to be united in error. It is better to speak the truth that hurts and then heals, than falsehood that comforts and then kills. Let me tell you something, friend, IT IS NOT LOVE AND IT IS NOT FRIENDSHIP IF WE FAIL TO DECLARE THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD. It is better to be hated for telling the truth, than to be loved for telling a lie. It is impossible to find anyone in the Bible who was a power for God who did not have enemies and was not hated. IT IS BETTER TO STAND ALONE WITH THE TRUTH, THAN TO BE WRONG WITH THE MULTITUDE. It is better to ultimately succeed with the truth than temporarily succeed with a lie. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOSPEL, AND PAUL SAID, 'IF ANY MAN PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL UNTO YOU THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU, LET HIM BE ACCURSED.'"

written by Adrian Rodgers
 
 
For what it's worth....... .....thank you
 
Brother Mark Abraham


From: Sean Farmer <lightofchrist67@ yahoo.com>
To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 10:04:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)

 
Hi Darrell,
 
 Thanks for the post on this. I was actually laughing a little at your post because I was starting to wonder if it was you that was going off the deep end for a while. I'm saying this in a joking way because I can now see that you're explaining this in a manner that makes much more sense in that you are seeing this as "a possibility" and not in an absolute manner. We had talked about this last night in the May 21, 2011 Judgement Day room on Paltalk and I don't see any problems with it when it's looked at as a possible way this destruction and death may occur.
 
 
 To God Be The Glory!
 
  Sean

From: Darrell <darbet@tks-net. com>
To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 12:15:43 PM
Subject: RE: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)

 

Re: I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked

 

You guys are really starting go off the deep end.  No one is trusting in scientists and we’re not offering studies on geology.  This discussion concerns one point: on May 21, 2011 there will be a real earthquake (which MAY come from a volcano) that will cause many deaths (POSSIBLY millions) .  Now, the other day I also mentioned that scientists discovered dinosaur bones which contained blood vessels--thus supporting the young earth idea.   These types of discussion fit in the area of creation science.  So, calm down fellas.  No one is interested in speaking in tongues, being slain in the spirit or praying to virgin Mary statues.      

 

Fear God and give glory to Him,

Darrell Lockridge

 

 

From: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Latter_ Rain@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of bible read
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:43 AM
To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible

 

 

Mark,

Okay weird... first off, I'm a scientist (a chemist).  So you're labeling of science/scientists is rather dogmatic.  No matter what a "scientist" studies, sin is on that individual.  In fact, in general in LR, I see this same strange labeling of scientists, especially w.r.t. Darwinism or archeology.

 

Secondly (and here's what's weird), I agree with you Mark.  Some have taken Yellowstone' s potential for explosion on/near judgement day beyond a curiosity.  There's this strange need by others to validate the volcano hypothesis, even though you make very valid points.

 

Let us return to God's word,

John Newberg

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Mark Abraham <markabraham114@ yahoo.com> wrote:

 

LR,

Please, I feel that this topic has gone on long enough, let us all examine the Holy Words of God Almighty.... ......

Re 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. 

The lesson here should be if scientists are predicting/prophesy ing that a super volcanoes will destroy this earth.....are we looking for signs and wonders?  We would be no different than the people of this world that are still in the churches.... .. The Bible states that the LORD Jesus Christ God Almighty destroys the earth....... .who are U going to believe the scientists who come with a false gospel who states that the earth is 6.4 billions of years old .......Or are we going to put our trust in the word of God...... I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked.....If we put the authority of science equal the the authority of the Bible we be making a grave mistake!.... . .......How do WE know this for the Bible tells US so.

So let us all pray that God will save us, our enemies, our families, loved ones, neighbors, coworkers because " WE ARE ALMOST THERE "........... And if anyone should ask us , how do we know?.....are we going to respond well even the scientists say that super volcanoes are going  to erupt at anytime..... ..Or are we going to tell them that the Bible declares that on May 21, 2011 will begin the time of judgment when there will no longer be the free gift of salvation.

That's just how serious this matter is.......... ...

Brother Mark Abraham

 

 





#40872 From: Louis Erasmus <ras.elect@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:44 am
Subject: Re: [LR] Rom 3:26
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Hi Gary,

Thank you for your comments.

I just noticed now that I gave the wrong reference. I said Rom 3:26 and the verse given on the open forum was Gal 3:26.

There is also something I noticed up about Rom 3:26. I checked the Greek. The Young's and Green's literal both rendered the end of Rom 3:26 correctly.

(KJV) Romans 3:26 To declare, [I say], at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

(YLT) Romans 3:26  for the shewing forth of His righteousness in the present time, for His being righteous, and declaring him righteous who [is] of the faith of Jesus


Louis Erasmus



On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:51 PM, <GaryHiggs@...> wrote:
 

Hi Louis:
 
Yes, I recall these verses and it is the faith of Jesus Christ. We can know this by the verses you gave and many other's, since "faith" is one of the fruits of the Spirit of God we can know it is not our faith it is the faith that comes from the Spirit of God that is in every believer. Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith, we can call it our faith because it was given to us as a gift, both the grace and the faith is the gift of God, Eph. 2:8-9. Jesus is called "faithful and true" He (Jesus) that has begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is the work of God that we believe on Him, John 6:29. You see how all these tie together in perfect harmony? God is good. Thank you.
 
                   Gary



#40873 From: Sean Farmer <lightofchrist67@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:25 pm
Subject: Ancient Hebrew
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Hello,
 
 I thought this might be of some interest to those who have a desire to understand the original languages that the Bible was written in. I believe there are 14 parts in total but each video is approximately 2 to 9 minutes long.
 
 
 
Sean


#40874 From: M Qp <rapturemay2111@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:01 pm
Subject: Re: [LR] Judgment Day Proofs - Joe
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Tom,
I will post this weekend what I have compiled.  It aims to be a layman's tool (as that is what I am) in the format of Proof 1-n with associations when possible, and hopefully can be augmented by teaches more studied than I as a witnessing tool. Also, Rick's study on the  Judgment Day timetable is a good compilation of the calendar dates and prime number relationships. 
 
Joe


From: "TomHoltII@..." <TomHoltII@...>
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 8:02:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LR] Judgment Day Proofs - Joe

 

will you be posting the proofs you have collected?  You are correct about this subject....we all should be conversant with detailed proofs that Christ, and Judgment Day, will come in less than 18 months...I hope Family Radio unifies all known Bible proofs into an UPGRADED "WE ARE ALMOST THERE" soon...
In 1994, I recall being in serious contact with 26 proofs about 1994---a critical Bible year.
Tom Holt
Titus 2:13
 
In a message dated 11/22/2009 8:38:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rapturemay2111@ yahoo.com writes:
There are 17 months and 29 days left before Judgment Day.  Over the next weeks we will be hosting and attending many holiday celebrations as well as sending our annual cards.  This is the time for witnessing Gods truth of the end.  I know the truth now, only recently, and am not as familiar to cite them as most of you are. I need your help.  I have the tracts, We are almost There, To God Be The Glory.  But has anyone compiled in one short summary of all the proofs now revealed?  From my reading of various studies I have identified about 20, some major some minor but all by the Grace of God and His mercy..  I would like to give this document with references to further study to my family and friends this week and holiday season.  we all desperately need to know.

thanks for your help,
Joe



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#40875 From: "ggbiw_1999" <ggbiw_1999@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:15 am
Subject: Link to WE CAN KNOW toolbar?
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Lost my toolbar and cannot find it.Do any have the link?   arturo meuniot

#40876 From: TomHoltII@...
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:36 pm
Subject: A Hymn for Thanksgiving, and the End
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COME, YE THANKFUL PEOPLE, COME “Let us come before Him with thanksgiving, and extol Him with music and song.” Psalm 95:2

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Come, ye thankful people, come, raise the song of harvest home;
All is safely gathered in, ere the winter storms begin.
God our Maker doth provide for our wants to be supplied;
Come to God’s own temple, come, raise the song of harvest home.

All the world is God’s own field, fruit unto His praise to yield;
Wheat and tares together sown unto joy or sorrow grown.
First the blade and then the ear, then the full corn shall appear;
Lord of harvest, grant that we wholesome grain and pure may be.

For the Lord our God shall come, and shall take His harvest home;
From His field shall in that day all offenses purge away,
Giving angels charge at last in the fire the tares to cast;
But the fruitful ears to store in His garner evermore.

Even so, Lord, quickly come, bring Thy final harvest home;
Gather Thou Thy people in, free from sorrow, free from sin,
There, forever purified, in Thy garner to abide;
Come, with all Thine angels come, raise the glorious harvest home.


#40877 From: "ggbiw_1999" <ggbiw_1999@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:11 am
Subject: WeCanKnow.com TOOLBAR LINK
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Allison provided the link if anyone wants to install it. Thank You Allison.   
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#40878 From: bible read <mybibleread@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:24 am
Subject: Re: [LR] Ancient Hebrew
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The History was very informative... I enjoyed that part of it.  But ouch... a big sigh (on my part) for the lack of Truth when it comes to interpreting the Bible (which is the main emphasis of this video).  There is an utter disregard for comparing scripture with scripture.  I was compelled to respond to the author on part 13 w.r.t. his Biblical translation for Tsee-tseeth (H6734) used in Num 15:38,39 and Eze 8:3. He was way off.

Fear the Lord,
John Newberg


On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Sean Farmer <lightofchrist67@...> wrote:
 

Hello,
 
 I thought this might be of some interest to those who have a desire to understand the original languages that the Bible was written in. I believe there are 14 parts in total but each video is approximately 2 to 9 minutes long.
 
 
 
Sean



#40879 From: Sean Farmer <lightofchrist67@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: [LR] Ancient Hebrew
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Hi John,
 
 I agree. I should have included a footnote about that in my post. Thanks for bringing that up.
 
 
To God Be The Glory!
 
Sean


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Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 3:24:35 AM
Subject: Re: [LR] Ancient Hebrew

 

The History was very informative. .. I enjoyed that part of it.  But ouch... a big sigh (on my part) for the lack of Truth when it comes to interpreting the Bible (which is the main emphasis of this video).  There is an utter disregard for comparing scripture with scripture.  I was compelled to respond to the author on part 13 w.r.t. his Biblical translation for Tsee-tseeth (H6734) used in Num 15:38,39 and Eze 8:3. He was way off.


Fear the Lord,
John Newberg


On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Sean Farmer <lightofchrist67@ yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Hello,
 
 I thought this might be of some interest to those who have a desire to understand the original languages that the Bible was written in. I believe there are 14 parts in total but each video is approximately 2 to 9 minutes long.
 
 
 
Sean




#40880 From: "Darrell" <darbet@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:29 pm
Subject: RE: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)
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Sean,

 

I say “possibly” in the sense that this volcano may not be the only variable of the great earthquake.  In Matthew 8:24 we read that a great tempest occurred in the sea which caused the waters to cover a ship.  The phrase “great tempest” can be translated as “great earthquake”.   So, the great earthquake of May 21 may cause tsunamis or volcanic activity.

 

Mt 8:24  And, behold, there arose a great tempest <4578> in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep.

 

Re 11:13  And the same hour was there a great earthquake <4578>, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake <4578> were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

 

Re 16:18  And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake <4578>, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

 

With only 18 months left, we are in a position to discern the details/characteristics of judgment day with more clarity.  So, when Mr. Camping suggests that nuclear facilities or volcanoes will cause death during the 5 months—it’s not simply speculation.  These are just some of the effects that will be produced by a major global earthquake.  Sometimes I get the impression that some think the earthquake is spiritual and so there won’t be a lot of literal dead bodies covering the ground.

 

Fear God and give glory to Him,

Darrell

 

 

 

From: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Farmer
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:04 AM
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)

 

 

Hi Darrell,

 

 Thanks for the post on this. I was actually laughing a little at your post because I was starting to wonder if it was you that was going off the deep end for a while. I'm saying this in a joking way because I can now see that you're explaining this in a manner that makes much more sense in that you are seeing this as "a possibility" and not in an absolute manner. We had talked about this last night in the May 21, 2011 Judgement Day room on Paltalk and I don't see any problems with it when it's looked at as a possible way this destruction and death may occur.

 

 

 To God Be The Glory!

 

  Sean


From: Darrell <darbet@...>
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 12:15:43 PM
Subject: RE: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)

 

Re: I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked

 

You guys are really starting go off the deep end.  No one is trusting in scientists and we’re not offering studies on geology.  This discussion concerns one point: on May 21, 2011 there will be a real earthquake (which MAY come from a volcano) that will cause many deaths (POSSIBLY millions) .  Now, the other day I also mentioned that scientists discovered dinosaur bones which contained blood vessels--thus supporting the young earth idea.   These types of discussion fit in the area of creation science.  So, calm down fellas.  No one is interested in speaking in tongues, being slain in the spirit or praying to virgin Mary statues.      

 

Fear God and give glory to Him,

Darrell Lockridge

 

 

From: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Latter_ Rain@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of bible read
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:43 AM
To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible

 

 

Mark,

Okay weird... first off, I'm a scientist (a chemist).  So you're labeling of science/scientists is rather dogmatic.  No matter what a "scientist" studies, sin is on that individual.  In fact, in general in LR, I see this same strange labeling of scientists, especially w.r.t. Darwinism or archeology.

 

Secondly (and here's what's weird), I agree with you Mark.  Some have taken Yellowstone' s potential for explosion on/near judgement day beyond a curiosity.  There's this strange need by others to validate the volcano hypothesis, even though you make very valid points.

 

Let us return to God's word,

John Newberg

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Mark Abraham <markabraham114@ yahoo.com> wrote:

 

LR,

Please, I feel that this topic has gone on long enough, let us all examine the Holy Words of God Almighty.... ......

Re 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. 

The lesson here should be if scientists are predicting/prophesy ing that a super volcanoes will destroy this earth.....are we looking for signs and wonders?  We would be no different than the people of this world that are still in the churches.... .. The Bible states that the LORD Jesus Christ God Almighty destroys the earth....... .who are U going to believe the scientists who come with a false gospel who states that the earth is 6.4 billions of years old .......Or are we going to put our trust in the word of God...... I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked.....If we put the authority of science equal the the authority of the Bible we be making a grave mistake!..... .......How do WE know this for the Bible tells US so.

So let us all pray that God will save us, our enemies, our families, loved ones, neighbors, coworkers because " WE ARE ALMOST THERE "...........And if anyone should ask us , how do we know?.....are we going to respond well even the scientists say that super volcanoes are going  to erupt at anytime..... ..Or are we going to tell them that the Bible declares that on May 21, 2011 will begin the time of judgment when there will no longer be the free gift of salvation.

That's just how serious this matter is.......... ...

Brother Mark Abraham

 

 

 


#40881 From: Sean Farmer <lightofchrist67@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)
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Darrell, I understand your point and you have done a good job explaining yourself. There will be death and destruction like this world has never witnessed before and by God's grace and mercy I hope neither of us are here to witness it.
 
 
To God Be The Glory!
 
Sean

 


From: Darrell <darbet@...>
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 12:29:29 PM
Subject: RE: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)

 

Sean,

 

I say “possibly” in the sense that this volcano may not be the only variable of the great earthquake.  In Matthew 8:24 we read that a great tempest occurred in the sea which caused the waters to cover a ship.  The phrase “great tempest” can be translated as “great earthquake”.   So, the great earthquake of May 21 may cause tsunamis or volcanic activity..

 

Mt 8:24  And, behold, there arose a great tempest <4578> in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep.

 

Re 11:13  And the same hour was there a great earthquake <4578>, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake <4578> were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

 

Re 16:18  And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake <4578>, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

 

With only 18 months left, we are in a position to discern the details/characteris tics of judgment day with more clarity.  So, when Mr. Camping suggests that nuclear facilities or volcanoes will cause death during the 5 months—it’s not simply speculation.  These are just some of the effects that will be produced by a major global earthquake.  Sometimes I get the impression that some think the earthquake is spiritual and so there won’t be a lot of literal dead bodies covering the ground.

 

Fear God and give glory to Him,

Darrell

 

 

 

From: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Latter_ Rain@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Sean Farmer
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:04 AM
To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)

 

 

Hi Darrell,

 

 Thanks for the post on this. I was actually laughing a little at your post because I was starting to wonder if it was you that was going off the deep end for a while. I'm saying this in a joking way because I can now see that you're explaining this in a manner that makes much more sense in that you are seeing this as "a possibility" and not in an absolute manner. We had talked about this last night in the May 21, 2011 Judgement Day room on Paltalk and I don't see any problems with it when it's looked at as a possible way this destruction and death may occur.

 

 

 To God Be The Glory!

 

  Sean


From: Darrell <darbet@tks-net. com>
To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 12:15:43 PM
Subject: RE: [LR] The authority of the Bible (Hold On a Minute!)

 

Re: I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked

 

You guys are really starting go off the deep end.  No one is trusting in scientists and we’re not offering studies on geology.  This discussion concerns one point: on May 21, 2011 there will be a real earthquake (which MAY come from a volcano) that will cause many deaths (POSSIBLY millions) .  Now, the other day I also mentioned that scientists discovered dinosaur bones which contained blood vessels--thus supporting the young earth idea.   These types of discussion fit in the area of creation science.  So, calm down fellas.  No one is interested in speaking in tongues, being slain in the spirit or praying to virgin Mary statues.      

 

Fear God and give glory to Him,

Darrell Lockridge

 

 

From: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Latter_ Rain@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of bible read
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:43 AM
To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [LR] The authority of the Bible

 

 

Mark,

Okay weird... first off, I'm a scientist (a chemist).  So you're labeling of science/scientists is rather dogmatic.  No matter what a "scientist" studies, sin is on that individual.  In fact, in general in LR, I see this same strange labeling of scientists, especially w.r.t. Darwinism or archeology.

 

Secondly (and here's what's weird), I agree with you Mark.  Some have taken Yellowstone' s potential for explosion on/near judgement day beyond a curiosity.  There's this strange need by others to validate the volcano hypothesis, even though you make very valid points.

 

Let us return to God's word,

John Newberg

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Mark Abraham <markabraham114@ yahoo.com> wrote:

 

LR,

Please, I feel that this topic has gone on long enough, let us all examine the Holy Words of God Almighty.... ......

Re 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. 

The lesson here should be if scientists are predicting/prophesy ing that a super volcanoes will destroy this earth......are we looking for signs and wonders?  We would be no different than the people of this world that are still in the churches.... .. The Bible states that the LORD Jesus Christ God Almighty destroys the earth....... .who are U going to believe the scientists who come with a false gospel who states that the earth is 6.4 billions of years old .......Or are we going to put our trust in the word of God...... I read no where in the Bible that at the time of the end God will send you scientists that will explain how the great I'AM will destroy this earth along with the wicked.....If we put the authority of science equal the the authority of the Bible we be making a grave mistake!..... . .......How do WE know this for the Bible tells US so.

So let us all pray that God will save us, our enemies, our families, loved ones, neighbors, coworkers because " WE ARE ALMOST THERE "...........And if anyone should ask us , how do we know?.....are we going to respond well even the scientists say that super volcanoes are going  to erupt at anytime..... ...Or are we going to tell them that the Bible declares that on May 21, 2011 will begin the time of judgment when there will no longer be the free gift of salvation.

That's just how serious this matter is........... ...

Brother Mark Abraham

 

 

 



#40882 From: TomHoltII@...
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:58 pm
Subject: A Thanksgiving Day question
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“I will take away the stony heart…and I will give you a heart of flesh.” Ezekiel 36:26

Words: Isaac Watts, 1707 

MI­DI-click here to hear the lovely TUNE by Ananias Davisson, 1816, minimize this screen, so you can see the words while the tune plays

Is this the kind return,
And these the thanks we owe,
Thus to abuse eternal love,
Whence all our blessings flow?

To what a stubborn frame
Has sin reduced our mind!
What strange rebellious wretches we,
And God as strangely kind!

On us He bids the sun
Shed his reviving rays;
For us the skies their circles run,
To lengthen out our days.

The brutes obey their God,
And bow their necks to men;
But we, more base, more brutish things,
Reject His easy reign.

Turn, turn us, mighty God,
And mold our souls afresh;
Break, sov’reign grace, these hearts of stone,
And give us hearts of flesh.

Let old ingratitude
Provoke our weeping eyes,
And hourly as new mercies fall
Let hourly thanks arise.


#40883 From: Mark Abraham <markabraham114@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:33 pm
Subject: A Time to Remember Friends and Family
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This is the time of the year for one to set a moment aside to give thanks for Family, Friends and Love One's...........Our Family would like to extend the warmest greetings to you and yours in having a Blesssed Thanksgiving!
 
Eph 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
 
Love,
 
The Abraham's


#40884 From: "gooberstone" <mnmjmlefl@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:47 pm
Subject: Re: [LR] Rom 3:26
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Hi Louis and Gary,

You summarized it well Gary. Another verse that is helpful in this doctrine and
has been wrongly translated by modern translations such as the NIV is Gal.2:16

"Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith
of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be
justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the
works of the law shall no flesh be justified." (Ga 2:16 AV)

How does Youngs do this one Louis?


P.S. Thanks Gary for your reply the other day to my post about Rom.1:18

You all enjoy this day of Thanksgiving in the Lord!

Mark Lofgren

--- In Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com, Louis Erasmus <ras.elect@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> I just noticed now that I gave the wrong reference. I said Rom 3:26 and the
> verse given on the open forum was Gal 3:26.
>
> There is also something I noticed up about Rom 3:26. I checked the Greek.
> The Young's and Green's literal both rendered the end of Rom 3:26 correctly.
>
> *(KJV)* Romans 3:26 To declare, [I say], at this time his righteousness:
> that he might be just, *and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus*.
>
> *(YLT)* Romans 3:26  for the shewing forth of His righteousness in the
> present time, for His being righteous, *and declaring him righteous who [is]
> of the faith of Jesus*.
>
>
> Louis Erasmus
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:51 PM, <GaryHiggs@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >  Hi Louis:
> >
> > Yes, I recall these verses and it is the faith of Jesus Christ. We can know
> > this by the verses you gave and many other's, since "faith" is one of the
> > fruits of the Spirit of God we can know it is not our faith it is the faith
> > that comes from the Spirit of God that is in every believer. Jesus is the
> > author and finisher of our faith, we can call it our faith because it was
> > given to us as a gift, both the grace and the faith is the gift of God, Eph.
> > 2:8-9. Jesus is called "faithful and true" He (Jesus) that has begun a good
> > work in you will perform it until the day of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is
> > the work of God that we believe on Him, John 6:29. You see how all these tie
> > together in perfect harmony? God is good. Thank you.
> >
> >                    Gary
> >
> >
> >
>

#40885 From: "gooberstone" <mnmjmlefl@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:25 pm
Subject: A Psalm for Thanks-giving
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Hello L.R.,

May this Thanksgiving Day be blessed for you all as all days are in the Lord of Hosts - Jesus Christ

(Ps 136:1-26 AV)

"O give thanks unto the LORD; for [he is] good: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. O give thanks unto the God of gods: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. O give thanks to the Lord of lords: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. To him who alone doeth great wonders: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. To him that by wisdom made the heavens: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. To him that stretched out the earth above the waters: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. To him that made great lights: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: The sun to rule by day: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: The moon and stars to rule by night: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. To him that smote Egypt in their firstborn: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: And brought out Israel from among them: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: With a strong hand, and with a stretched out arm: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. To him which divided the Red sea into parts: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: And made Israel to pass through the midst of it: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: But overthrew Pharaoh and his host in the Red sea: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. To him which led his people through the wilderness: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. To him which smote great kings: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: And slew famous kings: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: Sihon king of the Amorites: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: And Og the king of Bashan: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: And gave their land for an heritage: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: [Even] an heritage unto Israel his servant: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. Who remembered us in our low estate: for his mercy [endureth] for ever: And hath redeemed us from our enemies: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. Who giveth food to all flesh: for his mercy [endureth] for ever. O give thanks unto the God of heaven: for his mercy [endureth] for ever."

Thank you all too for being apart of my life and for your encouragement and edification in my walk with the LORD,

mark lofgren

 


#40886 From: "Darrell" <darbet@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:26 pm
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving!
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Happy Thanksgiving to all.  This year has been the most blessed with regards to feasting on God’s word.  Back in 1991, my wife and I thought we had discovered manna in the desert when we first started learning about salvation from Family Radio.  A year later, the blessings were increased as we began to learn more about judgment day.  But this year it seems the cup is overflowing as God has begun to reveal more truth about the atonement (before the foundation of the world) as well and info about the 5 months and annihilation.  Like Noah, all of this information not only makes us be more thankful but also causes us to move with fear as we see the day of judgment approaching.   In this regard, I praise and thank God for His great mercy.  I also thank Him for allowing us to rejoice together in truth. 

 

Acts 27:34  Wherefore I pray you to take some meat: for this is for your health: for there shall not an hair fall from the head of any of you.35  And when he had thus spoken, he took bread, and gave thanks to God in presence of them all: and when he had broken it, he began to eat.36  Then were they all of good cheer, and they also took some meat.37  And we were in all in the ship two hundred threescore and sixteen souls.38  And when they had eaten enough, they lightened the ship, and cast out the wheat into the sea.

 

Lu 22:19  And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

 

Fear God and give glory to Him,

Darrell Lockridge

 

 

From: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TomHoltII@...
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:58 AM
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LR] A Thanksgiving Day question

 

 

“I will take away the stony heart…and I will give you a heart of flesh.” Ezekiel 36:26

Words: Isaac Watts, 1707 

MI­DI-click here to hear the lovely TUNE by Ananias Davisson, 1816, minimize this screen, so you can see the words while the tune plays

Is this the kind return,
And these the thanks we owe,
Thus to abuse eternal love,
Whence all our blessings flow?

To what a stubborn frame
Has sin reduced our mind!
What strange rebellious wretches we,
And God as strangely kind!

On us He bids the sun
Shed his reviving rays;
For us the skies their circles run,
To lengthen out our days.

The brutes obey their God,
And bow their necks to men;
But we, more base, more brutish things,
Reject His easy reign.

Turn, turn us, mighty God,
And mold our souls afresh;
Break, sov’reign grace, these hearts of stone,
And give us hearts of flesh.

Let old ingratitude
Provoke our weeping eyes,
And hourly as new mercies fall
Let hourly thanks arise.


#40887 From: "ggbiw_1999" <ggbiw_1999@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:33 pm
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving
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May God Give all a Blessed Thanksgiving.Happy Thanksgiving Bretheren.   arturo

#40888 From: "chris" <departout2001@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: [TimeandJudgment_May212011] God's People getting the Word out
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Dear Bismin,


I haven't been able yet to locate the one individual's email address; but there
is a 2nd Philippino FR listener that wrote the following note in Time &
Judgment's group (message 31027):


"Do you have an email address of that person from Pasig, City Philippines?  
Please send me...I want to contact him.  I wish I have a  friend to distribute
tracts and other here in the Philippines.  For greater ministry and for the
glory of God."


May the Lord's perfect will be done,
Chris McCann


--- In Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com, Bismindo Lisondra <bismin64@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>  
> I'm interested also to be in contact with your Filipino friend in Pasig,
Philippines or someone from PI. I'm leaving to Philippines this coming 2'nd of
December for some speaking engagement  on Judgment Day and distributing tracts
such as "Does God Love You"(in Cebuano), "Judgment Day"(English) and others. I
will also verify  if we can really hear the Family Radio broadcast on 1359 AM
KHZ . If we can tune in, then we will be introducing this station as will. So,
people on this area can hear more God's Word thru FR in their own dialect.  I
will be on this following cities of northern Mindanao both cities are Cebuano
dialect speaking:
>  
> December 2-3  Gingoog City
> December 4-5  Cagayan de Oro City
>  
> Chris, December 6,  I'm back  in Hong Kong by God's will. Feel free to
contact me and you can  also give my contact numbers to them:
> Hong Kong  852-51897947
> Philippines  63-9194704093 (this will be in contact only from Dec.2-5,
2009)
> e-mail : bismin64@...  or to_Godbetheglory@...
>  
> To God be the glory alone.
>  
> Bismin (Hong Kong)
>  
>  
>  
>
> --- On Sun, 11/22/09, Rosalie Batane <rosaliebatane@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Rosalie Batane <rosaliebatane@...>
> Subject: Re: [TimeandJudgment_May212011] God's People getting the Word out
> To: TimeandJudgment_May212011@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 7:24 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris,
>
> Do you have an email address of that person from Pasig, City Philippines?  
Please send me...I want to contact him.  I wish I have a  friend to distribute
tracts and other here in the Philippines.  For greater ministry and for the
glory of God.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: chris <departout2001@ yahoo.com>
> To: TimeandJudgment_ May212011@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 11:16:58 PM
> Subject: [TimeandJudgment_ May212011] God's People getting the Word out
>
>  
>
> Dear Time & Judgment,
>
> Requests for the May 21, 2011 tract:
>
> The coming of Jesus is really important. so many people here in indonesia have
not believe in Jesus, because lots of them are muslim. from facebook..Thank you
so much
> Jakarta, Indonesia
>
> it is important to people should know the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. we
distribute it into school , market. and in the side walks...
> Pasig City, Philippines
>
> Ezekiel 33 is one of the reasons why i want to distribute them to Basotho
people in Lesotho. i heard about ebiblefellowship from a friend.
> Maseru, Lesotho
>

#40889 From: Teena Grinn <teenagrinn@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: [LR] Happy Thanksgiving!
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Darrell, it was a blessing to read this post.
 

1 Cor 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

Blessed Thanksgiving to all, Teena Grinn




From: Darrell <darbet@...>
To: Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 26, 2009 9:26:16 AM
Subject: [LR] Happy Thanksgiving!

 

Happy Thanksgiving to all.  This year has been the most blessed with regards to feasting on God’s word.  Back in 1991, my wife and I thought we had discovered manna in the desert when we first started learning about salvation from Family Radio.  A year later, the blessings were increased as we began to learn more about judgment day.  But this year it seems the cup is overflowing as God has begun to reveal more truth about the atonement (before the foundation of the world) as well and info about the 5 months and annihilation.  Like Noah, all of this information not only makes us be more thankful but also causes us to move with fear as we see the day of judgment approaching.   In this regard, I praise and thank God for His great mercy.  I also thank Him for allowing us to rejoice together in truth. 

 

Acts 27:34  Wherefore I pray you to take some meat: for this is for your health: for there shall not an hair fall from the head of any of you.35  And when he had thus spoken, he took bread, and gave thanks to God in presence of them all: and when he had broken it, he began to eat.36  Then were they all of good cheer, and they also took some meat.37  And we were in all in the ship two hundred threescore and sixteen souls.38  And when they had eaten enough, they lightened the ship, and cast out the wheat into the sea.

 

Lu 22:19  And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

 

Fear God and give glory to Him,

Darrell Lockridge

 

 

From: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Latter_ Rain@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of TomHoltII@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:58 AM
To: Latter_Rain@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [LR] A Thanksgiving Day question

 

 

“I will take away the stony heart…and I will give you a heart of flesh.” Ezekiel 36:26

Words: Isaac Watts, 1707 

MI­DI-click here to hear the lovely TUNE by Ananias Davisson, 1816, minimize this screen, so you can see the words while the tune plays

Is this the kind return,
And these the thanks we owe,
Thus to abuse eternal love,
Whence all our blessings flow?

To what a stubborn frame
Has sin reduced our mind!
What strange rebellious wretches we,
And God as strangely kind!

On us He bids the sun
Shed his reviving rays;
For us the skies their circles run,
To lengthen out our days.

The brutes obey their God,
And bow their necks to men;
But we, more base, more brutish things,
Reject His easy reign.

Turn, turn us, mighty God,
And mold our souls afresh;
Break, sov’reign grace, these hearts of stone,
And give us hearts of flesh..

Let old ingratitude
Provoke our weeping eyes,
And hourly as new mercies fall
Let hourly thanks arise.



#40890 From: Louis Erasmus <ras.elect@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: [LR] Rom 3:26
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Hi Mark,

I've found the Young's literal translation to be the most consistent in translating the the faith that belongs to Christ correctly.

Mark 11:22 And Jesus answering saith to them, ‘Have faith of God
Acts 3:16 and on the faith of his name, this one whom ye see and have known, his name made strong, even the faith that [is] through him did give to him this perfect soundness before you all.
Romans 3:22 and the righteousness of God [is] through the faith of Jesus Christ to all, and upon all those believing, —for there is no difference,
Romans 3:26 for the shewing forth of His righteousness in the present time, for His being righteous, and declaring him righteous who [is] of the faith of Jesus.
Galatians 2:16 having known also that a man is not declared righteous by works of law, if not through the faith of Jesus Christ, also we in Christ Jesus did believe, that we might be declared righteous by the faith of Christ, and not by works of law, wherefore declared righteous by works of law shall be no flesh.’
Galatians 2:20 with Christ I have been crucified, and live no more do I, and Christ doth live in me; and that which I now live in the flesh—in the faith I live of the Son of God, who did love me and did give himself for me;
Habakkuk 2:4 Lo, a presumptuous one! Not upright is his soul within him, And the righteous by his stedfastness liveth.
Galatians 3:22 but the Writing did shut up the whole under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ may be given to those believing.
Ephesians 3:12 in whom we have the freedom and the access in confidence through the faith of him,
Philippians 3:9 not having my righteousness, which [is] of law, but that which [is] through faith of Christ—the righteousness that is of God by the faith,
Colossians 2:12 being buried with him in the baptism, in which also ye rose with [him] through the faith of the working of God, who did raise him out of the dead.
James 2:1 My brethren, hold not, in respect of persons, the faith of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Revelation 14:12 Here is endurance of the saints: here [are] those keeping the commands of God, and the faith of Jesus.’


Louis Erasmus


On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:47 AM, gooberstone <mnmjmlefl@...> wrote:
 

Hi Louis and Gary,

You summarized it well Gary. Another verse that is helpful in this doctrine and has been wrongly translated by modern translations such as the NIV is Gal.2:16

"Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified." (Ga 2:16 AV)

How does Youngs do this one Louis?

P.S. Thanks Gary for your reply the other day to my post about Rom.1:18

You all enjoy this day of Thanksgiving in the Lord!

Mark Lofgren



--- In Latter_Rain@yahoogroups.com, Louis Erasmus <ras.elect@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> I just noticed now that I gave the wrong reference. I said Rom 3:26 and the
> verse given on the open forum was Gal 3:26.
>
> There is also something I noticed up about Rom 3:26. I checked the Greek.
> The Young's and Green's literal both rendered the end of Rom 3:26 correctly.
>
> *(KJV)* Romans 3:26 To declare, [I say], at this time his righteousness:
> that he might be just, *and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus*.
>
> *(YLT)* Romans 3:26 for the shewing forth of His righteousness in the
> present time, for His being righteous, *and declaring him righteous who [is]
> of the faith of Jesus*.
>
>
> Louis Erasmus
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:51 PM, <GaryHiggs@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Louis:
> >
> > Yes, I recall these verses and it is the faith of Jesus Christ. We can know
> > this by the verses you gave and many other's, since "faith" is one of the
> > fruits of the Spirit of God we can know it is not our faith it is the faith
> > that comes from the Spirit of God that is in every believer. Jesus is the
> > author and finisher of our faith, we can call it our faith because it was
> > given to us as a gift, both the grace and the faith is the gift of God, Eph.
> > 2:8-9. Jesus is called "faithful and true" He (Jesus) that has begun a good
> > work in you will perform it until the day of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is
> > the work of God that we believe on Him, John 6:29. You see how all these tie
> > together in perfect harmony? God is good. Thank you.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
>



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