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7811 walto
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Jan 1, 2010
3:58 pm
... You look at this like it was a conspiracy (which maybe it was--but more evidence is needed). Their backing of Geoism seems at least as much like the work...
7812 Mark Monson
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Jan 1, 2010
4:17 pm
... If our only aim is utopian speculation, we should limit our discussion to which system would be nicest if miraculously brought into being. But if...
7813 David Reed
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Jan 1, 2010
6:59 pm
While George most certainly did not have the answer to everything, people in 19th century Britain did not feel that the landowners were losing control.The...
7814 walto
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Jan 1, 2010
7:21 pm
... I agree that politics is important. But not that speculating about the dark motives of 19th Century financiers who supported George is politics. W...
7815 Scott
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Jan 1, 2010
7:24 pm
Quoting Mark Monson on Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:12 pm: ___Mark___ They got everything they wanted from HG and his movement: 1. Untaxed intangibles like money,...
7816 Mark Monson
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Jan 1, 2010
7:40 pm
... I'm more interested in how power is gained and maintained in the real world than in outward appearances. Under "politics" I include Old Boy Networking,...
7817 Mark Monson
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Jan 1, 2010
7:51 pm
... Single Taxers were prominent in the National Tax Association (1907), which is the subject of the following paper: The regressive era: Progressive Era tax...
7818 Jeffery J. Smith
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Jan 1, 2010
8:18 pm
Fellow advocates, Jeff here; Yesterday I had a half-hour meeting with an Oregon State Rep that lasted two hours. (Some people take to this stuff!) Anyway, what...
7819 Dan Sullivan
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Jan 2, 2010
10:33 pm
... Also, William Godwin wrote the following in 1798, too soon for him to be corrupted by the Georgist-banker conspiracy: "First then, legislation is in almost...
7820 walto
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Jan 2, 2010
11:36 pm
... I take it then, that when you (finally) agreed that Powderly was indeed a racist, you were guilty of violating list rules too. W...
7821 Mark Monson
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Jan 3, 2010
12:14 am
... That's an interesting theory. It is wrong to speculate on the motives of dead people? Wow. That means every history book is bad. That is, unless you...
7822 Mark Monson
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Jan 3, 2010
12:42 am
My 1979 Robert Schalkenbach Foundation copy of Progress and Poverty by Henry George, has an introduction by George's granddaughter, Agnes George DeMille. The...
7823 Chuck Metalitz
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Jan 3, 2010
3:42 am
... Pretty much. He was known in San Francisco, but not nationally. ... No, he was State of California inspector of gas meters. ... He wasn't all that young,...
7824 Dan Sullivan
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Jan 3, 2010
5:56 am
... I don't think the person who kept making the ad hominem accusations against Powderly is in a position to criticize the person who conceded that they were...
7825 Dan Sullivan
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Jan 3, 2010
6:56 am
... He was unknown outside of California and relatively unknown outside of San Francisco. However, he was the highest vote-getter in San Francisco as a...
7826 walto
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Jan 3, 2010
1:27 pm
... I don't like to argue. I'll let others decide for themselves. Nov. 24th, 2008 was the date. Twice. You can look it up. ... Look to your own groundless...
7827 Dan Sullivan
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Jan 3, 2010
3:46 pm
... Mark seems to be changing the subject from the question of his own ad hominem attacks to a hypothetical question about speculating on the motives of dead...
7828 Harry Pollard
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Jan 3, 2010
4:44 pm
I rather think that in the 19th century most taxation revenue came from the property tax, and most of the property tax came from land. Harry ...
7829 Dan Sullivan
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Jan 3, 2010
5:09 pm
... According to the August 1960 *House and Home,* land value bore more than half the total US tax burden (federal, state and local) in 1910, and bore less...
7830 roy_langston1 Offline Send Email Jan 3, 2010
9:02 pm
... As total asset value was then, as now, dominated by land value, it is hard to imagine how those Single Taxers prominent in the NTA could have countenanced ...
7831 David Reed
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Jan 3, 2010
9:05 pm
As has been established before on this list, Henry George came to public attention in 1869 through his New York Tribune article "The Chinese on the Pacific...
7832 Dan Sullivan
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Jan 3, 2010
9:34 pm
David Reed makes good points here. It is an especially good point that "quantitative easing," which is a euphemism for the direct issue of currency, is a hot...
7833 roy_langston1 Offline Send Email Jan 3, 2010
9:46 pm
... I don't see how untaxed stocks are of particular benefit to banks, which make their money from interest, fees and commissions; and I don't see how they...
7834 Scott Bergeson
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Jan 3, 2010
10:59 pm
Quoting Dan Sullivan on Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:33:59 -0500: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7819 ___DS___ Was George wrong about money and...
7835 walto
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Jan 4, 2010
1:38 am
... Don't banks generally hold a lot of those sorts of assets? W...
7836 Jock Coats
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Jan 4, 2010
2:36 am
... But then the only thing you need to know is why such things would be untaxed in Henry George's system. Was it because he had caved into the demands of...
7837 roy_langston1 Offline Send Email Jan 4, 2010
4:54 am
... Generally little or no more of stocks than of land, and far less than of land-backed mortgages. The claim that the banks bankrolled George or the Single...
7838 walto
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Jan 4, 2010
12:05 pm
... I wasn't making any such claim, just asking a question. If we reduce taxes on stocks and hold everything else equal (including taxes on land), it seems...
7839 walto
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Jan 4, 2010
12:11 pm
... I agree with all of that Jock. I was just suggesting that banks have other sources of income besides commissions, fees and interest. W...
7840 Dan Sullivan
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Jan 4, 2010
5:38 pm
... Indeed they do. However, the most valuable stocks, and particularly the "blue chip" or safest stocks, are in companies that the very monopoly privileges...
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