You have obviously thought this through, in way which gives food for thought.At least you admit that UIE/D could inflate house prices/rents :its your...
13403
David Reed
dbcreed@...
Sep 1, 2012 9:38 am
I don't see the fact that land values are low in some parts of the USA and inflated ( by speculators) in others is that difficult to get your head around. As...
13404
k_r_johansen
Sep 1, 2012 12:56 pm
... Rents/rental values, yes, house-prices, no, and if you think it through, I believe you understand why the two are different. I'm assuming 90+% recovery of...
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JDKromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Sep 1, 2012 1:14 pm
My football game is getting ready to start, but it's not a double credit. it's per person and I hope that it means in my house my child who is also a person...
13406
walto
walterhorn
Sep 1, 2012 2:16 pm
... I continue to agree with that perspective. I don't see anything of any interest happening in the U.S. in my lifetime at any rate. It really doesn't...
13407
JDKromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Sep 1, 2012 2:26 pm
If you don't want to discuss land values in the USA, the let's discuss uk land values. Where's the data? If uk Land taxers really were serious they create a...
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JDKromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Sep 1, 2012 2:34 pm
But more land value is being taxed in us via local property tax. I think. Notwithstanding that there are only two dozen serious/thoughtful/ respectable land...
13409
JDKromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Sep 1, 2012 2:53 pm
If I'm your lawyer for a particular contract negotiation that means the other side deals with me they don't/can't try to go to you directly and take advantage...
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walto
walterhorn
Sep 1, 2012 3:05 pm
I don't know about other states, but in Mass. a state law change is required even for a "local option" property tax variance. W...
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walto
walterhorn
Sep 1, 2012 3:06 pm
John, I think it would be helpful if you left enough text from the posts to which you are replying so readers would have some idea what you are talking about. ...
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walto
walterhorn
Sep 1, 2012 3:10 pm
I just wanted to add that, a couple of days ago, a state rep. candidate for an open seat was going door-to-door in my neighborhood to tell us why he is better...
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roy_langston
Sep 1, 2012 5:10 pm
... In that situation, I would have explored what social or political problems he was most passionate about, and then showed him why they can't be solved --...
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JDKromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Sep 1, 2012 5:27 pm
Local option "variance"; is a function of whether a state follows Dillon's rule or Cooley. These things are fixable but you have to know the laws. There a...
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walto
walterhorn
Sep 1, 2012 6:56 pm
OK OK, I'll send him an email. I just not that it doesn't in the least follow from the fact that "if those who see the cat don't at least try to point it out...
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walto
walterhorn
Sep 1, 2012 7:02 pm
I make no claims regarding "knowing the laws" generally. However, I have a pretty good sense of the situation here in Mass. I worked in the State House for...
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John David Kromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Sep 1, 2012 7:39 pm
" I make no claims regarding "knowing the laws" generally. However, I have a pretty good sense of the situation here in Mass. I worked in the State House for...
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k_r_johansen
Sep 1, 2012 7:40 pm
... That's true. Laws are more or less easily changed though. My impression is that the US is far more decentralized and rigid in constitutional limits than my...
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John David Kromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Sep 1, 2012 7:50 pm
" I make no claims regarding "knowing the laws" generally. However, I have a pretty good sense of the situation here in Mass. I worked in the State House for...
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John David Kromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Sep 1, 2012 8:00 pm
https://www.lincolninst.edu/subcenters/land-values/land-prices-by-state.asp Why don't you take a look at this data set. I am making a very specific point...
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roy_langston
Sep 2, 2012 6:41 am
... I'll tell you why I don't take a look at it: it uses the fallacious, absurd, and dishonest land residual valuation method. It also uses an absurd,...
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David Reed
dbcreed@...
Sep 2, 2012 7:45 am
@walto Worried by all this existential despair over American political wasteland.You're not going to start writing Anglo-Catholic poetry are you ? (A better...
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David Reed
dbcreed@...
Sep 2, 2012 8:34 am
@KJKYes I do post on the Mark Wadsworth site, which specialises in his carefully costed and worked-through proposals for LVT in the UK (the go-to place for...
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k_r_johansen
Sep 2, 2012 9:34 am
... He proposes a CD, with higher rate CDs for pensioners, which is for most intents and purposes, the exact same as a UIE for everyone whose LVT-bill is equal...
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walto
walterhorn
Sep 2, 2012 12:47 pm
... I do have this (perhaps absurd) sense that LVT has a better chance in e.g., the UK, Australia, and Denmark than it does here. Not completely sure why....
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John David Kromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Sep 2, 2012 6:10 pm
Roy: As to negative land value, I didn't read the paper to advocate paying land owners. (To me, I was thinking that governments could seize via eminent domain...
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roy_langston
Sep 2, 2012 6:50 pm
... He understands the political necessity to accommodate the widows, but not to accommodate homeownerism or individual rights to liberty? Maybe I should go...
13428
roy_langston
Sep 2, 2012 6:53 pm
... No, because you can't use it to buy anything but exclusive access to land. That is the main difference between a UIE and a CD. -- Roy Langston...
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k_r_johansen
Sep 2, 2012 7:13 pm
... Sure. We've discussed this before, but for the intents of this discussion, the CD/UIE is pretty much equal in effects, except on the lower margins. Whether...
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roy_langston
Sep 2, 2012 7:15 pm
... FWIW, I agree that implementing land rent recovery is likely to be easier somewhere else than in the USA, but that's partly because the USA is just one out...
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k_r_johansen
Sep 2, 2012 7:27 pm
... OTOH the US has examples where property taxes are significant, and are major state revenues as well, NH for example. This would be unheard of in most of...
