A new LVT video by the LibDems Alter group. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTxyNQ0ea-k...
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John
burns_curtis
Aug 3, 2012 9:32 am
... LVT is not paying directly for services. But it does "reclaim" community created wealth. Is that a tax?...
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Fred Foldvary
fred.foldvary
Aug 3, 2012 2:41 pm
... To the extent that public goods raise land values, LVT pays directly for services, just as you pay extra for a hotel room that includes elevator services, ...
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walto
walterhorn
Aug 4, 2012 12:52 pm
... I think that answer shows how silly the question was in the first place. Let me put this as simply and clearly as possible. Whether or not LVT is a tax...
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Scott on the Spot
ssbaker305
Aug 4, 2012 4:28 pm
Hi all, A new article on urban land-grabbing (in Detroit) in Huffington Post that may be worth your read and comments: A recent article in The Wall Street...
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David Reed
dbcreed@...
Aug 5, 2012 7:21 am
@walto Its not really a silly question when influential right-wing groups have rigged the debate so tax is invariably seen as a "Statist" (really meaningless...
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k_r_johansen
Aug 5, 2012 8:57 am
... As you say, most people are centrist and take an accepting view on taxes. However, I strongly disagree that the traditional Right's critical view on taxes...
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roy_langston
Aug 5, 2012 9:54 am
... Yes, it's unfortunate they can't seem to get it through their heads that their taxes pay for those things, but they still have to pay landowners -- mostly...
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John
burns_curtis
Aug 5, 2012 12:27 pm
... Get back to some basics. Geoism uses commonly created wealth to pay for common services. Common sense. Simple. This leaves private wealth alone. What you...
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walto
walterhorn
Aug 5, 2012 3:17 pm
... I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you're not going to be able to stop influential right wing groups by insisting on a particular definition of...
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walto
walterhorn
Aug 5, 2012 3:20 pm
... Right. It's the facts that are important--these quibbles over some term are a waste of life. Call them "tax-1" "tax-2" and "tax-3" if disambiguation is...
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John David Kromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Aug 5, 2012 6:20 pm
Where in Mase's article do you see that Detroit had "a land value tax"? They certainly had a property tax, but he doesn't claim that Detroit had a land value...
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David Reed
dbcreed@...
Aug 5, 2012 6:27 pm
@waltoOf course you're not.But you could get all the lefty groups to stop being embarrassed about using the word "tax" (in general,not some specialist...
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jdk_maryland_atty
jdk_maryland...
Aug 5, 2012 8:28 pm
Can we just be blunt and truthful about this? What we are talking about is a "tax" on land value. If we want to change the laws to implement such a thing, it...
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walto
walterhorn
Aug 5, 2012 11:54 pm
... Oh, no, John. There aren't just two. There's a third alternative. I absolutely certain of this because I'm old and I've seen it over and over for many...
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David Reed
dbcreed@...
Aug 6, 2012 7:22 am
If Detroit land is so valueless that people are a just walking away and abandoning it, what good will LVT do on its own?LVT can surely only work when there is...
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John
burns_curtis
Aug 6, 2012 10:01 am
... It is also how it is branded. In over 100 years branding it as a tax has not worked. Brand it is a tax and its acceptance is be difficult. It is not...
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walto
walterhorn
Aug 6, 2012 12:23 pm
... See what I mean? The Maryland legislature might call it a tax, following the statutes and hundreds of years of case law, but maybe we should call it...
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John
burns_curtis
Aug 6, 2012 1:23 pm
... Call it Mickey Mouse for all I care, as long it gets through....
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mattbieker
Aug 6, 2012 1:31 pm
... Well, that's a very good question. I think the LVT is a great tool to rejuvenate any city, but I too see a problem when it comes to a case like Detroit....
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roy_langston
Aug 6, 2012 5:45 pm
... He states: "Inspection revealed the remarkable and telling fact that these spurts occurred under Georgist leadership, too. Some of these cities and periods...
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roy_langston
Aug 6, 2012 5:54 pm
... Fiscally, politically, economically and morally, a from-the-purchase-value-upwards land tax is superior to Mill's idea, as it raises substantial revenues...
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roy_langston
Aug 6, 2012 6:02 pm
... It will take the burden off improvements. As improvement value is the great majority of property value in Detroit, that makes a huge difference in the...
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roy_langston
Aug 6, 2012 6:08 pm
... Post hoc fallacy. ... But not as difficult as if you try to con people that it isn't a tax. ... Wrong. It is definitely a tax by any normal dictionary...
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roy_langston
Aug 6, 2012 6:20 pm
... There is one problem that cities like Detroit and Gary do have that LVT can't solve: land value is so low relative to population and required spending that...
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John David Kromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Aug 6, 2012 6:53 pm
The implementation of LVT though involves two parts: taxing land value more AND taxing improvements (and/or income or sales or business priviledge) less. I had...
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John David Kromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Aug 6, 2012 10:24 pm
At some point, you've got to just say crackpot or purposeful attempt to discredit idea with nuttiness. JDK...
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John David Kromkowski
jdk_maryland...
Aug 6, 2012 10:32 pm
... not worked. Stop the madness. Do you really want to be considered a crackpot or a disinformer. Every single state in the US, HAS an LV Tax as part of the...
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derekrss
Aug 7, 2012 3:55 am
... For details read Mason Gaffney's other article, "Whats the Matter with Michigan?", which can be found at ...
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David Reed
dbcreed@...
Aug 7, 2012 1:56 pm
If they're walking away ,they 're not going to make any improvements.LVT won't always work:it is posited on the supposition of a rising population. HG P&P "...
