http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287190,00.html All, you may find this one eyebrow-raising, as I did. More than half of voters are positively inclined to...
I agree with my fellow PlatCom member who said that America should declare victory in Iraq and leave. America long ago achieved its two most important war...
(BH) The least divisive way for the Convention to handle Iraq would be to keep the backward-looking recriminations and short-shelf-life withdrawal proposals...
(K) Resolutions and programs take a lot of time to undo, also. The LP as a party should support it's platforms, and things libertarians have a consensus on....
Kevin wrote: "The LP supports immediate withdrawal from Iraq, and believes that the course of events there has demonstrated the wisdom of the LP's traditional...
... I agree with my fellow PlatCom member who said that America should declare victory in Iraq and leave. ... On, the one hand, and as a practical matter, it...
... It can stay in the platform (it should) and *still* not be dated by simply saying: "The Libertarian Party demands the immediate return of all U.S. military...
... 1) The word "demands" belongs in neither the platform nor a program. The LP is in no position to successfully demand anything ... and at such time as it...
I'm not sure even dates certain are advisable, but kudos to Tom for recognizing the real world. Unilaterally pulling the troops from South Korea immediately,...
Excellent points below, Tom. The LP is in no position to "demand" anything, and to use that term would simply marginalize us further. I too share your goal of...
... I too share your goal of getting US troops home. At this point, specifying a date certain also seems a bit grandiose, as so few non-Ls have heard and...
Tom, thanks for clarifying. I like how you're putting this, although the details of how the US tactfully extricates itself is not something that I find...
... Not sure I agree, but "calls for" is an acceptable substitute. ... Onward and upward. Push the button! - or at least let us indicate our willingness and...
... The platform should be stated in terms of what we would do if elected, not what we would demand or call for others to do. So the language should be things...
Your discussion of the "negotiating" process is interesting to me, Susan. The LP's platform has for 35 years pretty much been a "purist" document, and the...
... I'd gladly push the button -- if the button existed. The button does not, so far as I know, exist. If you have information to the contrary, let me know --...
... Tom, thanks for clarifying. I like how you're putting this, although the details of how the US tactfully extricates itself is not something that I find...
... That's fine. "The LP would initiate the immediate recall of all US troops." Preferably followed by "and then act to reduce the size of the standing army...
... I wouldn't say that. Significant changes, I think, come from the bottom up, not the top down. Elections and actions by elected officials are *lagging*, not...
... Indeed. That is sufficient. For now. At some point the embassies would need to be closed too, of course. -- Susan Hogarth http://www.colliething.com...
... Agreed ... but I doubt we can get sufficient buy-in at this time to adopt a platform that reads: "Unlike that weak-kneed moderate Grover Norquist, we don't...
... You're being overly dramatical. I make a concession and still I get lambasted (humorously, and with fine intentions, I am sure) as uncompromising. That'll...
... I didn't think I was lambasting you. I was merely stating that I don't think either of us will get all of what we both probably want (US OUT OF NORTH...
Just a coupla reflections back, Susan: 1) Politicians are already using it. Reagan and Clinton both described themselves as libertarian. Ron Paul of course...
... We agree then. ... That doesn't mean it's a matter of 'opinion' which position is right. My goodness, by that sort of logic, it's a matter of 'opinion'...
SH: That doesn't mean it's a matter of 'opinion' which position is right. My goodness, by that sort of logic, it's a matter of 'opinion' whether there are...
... This is fascinating, and I quite agree it's the case. It is, I think, only when people accept that the welfare/warfare state is fundamentally immoral that...
... surely ... people might agree that the welfare state is "immoral" on some levels, but they think it more or less works, because at least few are starving....
Susan, I'm pleased we agree, at least to some extent. The term "morality" has come to mostly refer to sexual or physical behavior, things like murder and...
