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#1375 From: "Washington, Gina" <gwashington@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:52 pm
Subject: Camino Ruiz Trail closed
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Hi everyone,

I forgot to put this in the previous email.  Camino Ruiz Trail will remain closed as we are performing some needed enhancement/repairs while we have the weather for it.  There will be material and equipment in the path, so for safety and sustainability of the work, it will be closed for a few months.  I think the work that is being done will be greatly appreciated once it opens up again.

 

Gina Washington

Senior Park Ranger

City of San Diego, Open Space Division

858.538.8066 (PH)

858.536.8334 (FAX)


#1374 From: "Washington, Gina" <gwashington@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:37 pm
Subject: Trail UPdate 12-16-09
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Good News,
The warm dry weather has allowed us to open most of the trails. 

 

CLOSED:      Del Mar Mesa fire road  to protect vernal pool habitat.

                       

                        LPCP south single track trail between Peñasquitos Creek Crossing and Carson Crossing

 

                   Peñasquitos Creek Crossing

 

There are still some puddles on the trails.  Do Not go into the vegetation to avoid them, stay on the exposed dirt or ride through.  There is obviously some water damage around the crossings so exercise extreme caution, especially those of you on horseback (the creeks can become very deep at the crossings and roots become exposed). 

 

Thanks for your cooperation, we had a lot less closure violators than last year.  Keep up the good work on getting the information out and for being such good stewards.

                       

 

Gina Washington

Senior Park Ranger

City of San Diego, Open Space Division

858.538.8066 (PH)

858.536.8334 (FAX)


#1371 From: Marvin Gerst <mgerst@...>
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:30 am
Subject: [Fwd: Open House at the Adobe, December 12th] [1 Attachment]
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[Attachment(s) <#TopText> from mgerst@... included below]

All:
Thanks to Erik for the timely reminder. Since I am out of town until 12-11,
I am asking Ranger Paul to resend his e mail and flyer, and I, or vice
Chair,
or Sec/Treas can post.
I will place reminder on our web site this AM. Marvin

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------

Subject: [LPCPCAC] Open House at the Adobe, December 12th
From: "ebasil2001" <EBasil@... <mailto:EBasil%40aol.com>>
Date: Tue, December 8, 2009 5:49 am
To: "LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:LPCPCAC%40yahoogroups.com>"
<LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:LPCPCAC%40yahoogroups.com>>
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Reminder All: this Saturday, December 12th is the Los Penasquitos
Rancho Adobe Open House, from 11am to 3pm. There will be tours of the
adobe, holiday singing and cheer from the "Fa So Lah Singers" and
refreshments, courtesy of the Friends of Los Penasquitos, our County
Rangers and the team of docents.

(Since Marvin has disabled CAC Members' ability to upload files as we
have traditionally done, I can't post the County's flyer, but rest
assured that it's got a nice photo on it, along with the information
above.)

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#1369 From: "Washington, Gina" <gwashington@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 5:28 pm
Subject: Trail Update 12.8.09
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Hi everyone,

I bet you can guess what this email is about.  All the trails in Los Penasquitos Canyon, Carmel Mountain, and Del Mar Mesa Preserves are closed until further notice.  We are expecting another storm surge Thursday/Friday this week so we will likely be closed for a while.  We really appreciate your sharing this information with everyone you know that uses our trails and for your cooperating with the closures. 

 

As soon as we can open any trail I will let you know, until then, stay dry, be safe and enjoy the SoCal winter


#1368 From: "ebasil2001" <EBasil@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 1:49 pm
Subject: Open House at the Adobe, December 12th
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Reminder All:  this Saturday, December 12th is the Los Penasquitos
Rancho Adobe Open House, from 11am to 3pm.  There will be tours of the
adobe, holiday singing and cheer from the "Fa So Lah Singers" and
refreshments, courtesy of the Friends of Los Penasquitos, our County
Rangers and the team of docents.

(Since Marvin has disabled CAC Members' ability to upload files as we
have traditionally done, I can't post the County's flyer, but rest
assured that it's got a nice photo on it, along with the information
above.)

#1367 From: "Marvin" <mgerst@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 12:24 pm
Subject: Preserve Photos
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I have created a new Album in the Photos section (Winters in Peñasquitos Canyon)
and moved previous winter photos to it. How about some current photos?, probably
from the rangers.

#1366 From: "Geoffrey Smith" <geoffrey@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 1:39 am
Subject: RE: Whooosh! Goes the Creek.
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I would be happy to mount a web cam on my porch overlooking the flooding, if
one were to buy one for me!

I would even accept a loan at this point.

It's pretty wet down there.

Here's a project for the lawyers: Sue the developers and cities who
hardscaped so much of the upper watershed, thereby causing the sheet runoff
which is so damaging to the Preserve.

Geoffrey
 
Geoffrey D. Smith, MA | 858.442.1425 | geoffrey@... |
www.partners4nature.com | blog:  www.wilderness4all.blogspot.com | "Let us
partner with you"


-----Original Message-----
From: LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ebasil2001
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:23 PM
To: LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LPCPCAC] Whooosh! Goes the Creek.

So, after our first day of rain this week (more to come), the creek's
gauge height is 9 feet tonight!   For reference, the rain after
Thanksgiving raised the gauge to 5 feet, and the photos/video some of
you have seen from 2005, when the stairs to the waterfalls were "halfway
under", was when the gauge read 10.5 feet.

If you don't know about "the gauge", it's a US Geodesic Service flow
measurement device, located east of Canyonside Stables in the creek.  As
the water rises, so does the gauge.  Here's a link to it, so you can
follow it in semi-real time:
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/ca/nwis/uv/?site_no=11023340&agency_cd=USGS

As development east of the I-15 has continued, there's much more
hardscape and therefore "storm drainage" into the Los Penasquitos
watershed and creek, resulting in more gauge height/water in the creek
during and after rains.  Note that, since the LPCP fans out pretty flat,
there's a gigantic difference between 9 and 10 feet on the gauge, in
terms of flooding in the canyon.  At 10 feet, much of the road in
Canyonside Park will be under a foot of water, as will be the entirety
of the field area that the "summer camp" folks used this past summer.

Be careful and smart, but take a chance to check it out if you can.




------------------------------------

CAC web site: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LPCPCAC

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#1365 From: "ebasil2001" <EBasil@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 1:23 am
Subject: Whooosh! Goes the Creek.
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So, after our first day of rain this week (more to come), the creek's
gauge height is 9 feet tonight!   For reference, the rain after
Thanksgiving raised the gauge to 5 feet, and the photos/video some of
you have seen from 2005, when the stairs to the waterfalls were "halfway
under", was when the gauge read 10.5 feet.

If you don't know about "the gauge", it's a US Geodesic Service flow
measurement device, located east of Canyonside Stables in the creek.  As
the water rises, so does the gauge.  Here's a link to it, so you can
follow it in semi-real time:
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/ca/nwis/uv/?site_no=11023340&agency_cd=USGS

As development east of the I-15 has continued, there's much more
hardscape and therefore "storm drainage" into the Los Penasquitos
watershed and creek, resulting in more gauge height/water in the creek
during and after rains.  Note that, since the LPCP fans out pretty flat,
there's a gigantic difference between 9 and 10 feet on the gauge, in
terms of flooding in the canyon.  At 10 feet, much of the road in
Canyonside Park will be under a foot of water, as will be the entirety
of the field area that the "summer camp" folks used this past summer.

Be careful and smart, but take a chance to check it out if you can.

#1364 From: "Geoffrey Smith" <geoffrey@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 6:48 pm
Subject: Third Annual Torrey Pines Association Symposium, Tomorrow, Saturday
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Los Peñasquitos Lagoon: From Waters to Wildlife

Attend our Third Annual Torrey Pines Association Symposium

December 5, 2009, 9:00 am - 12:00 noon
Sumner Auditorium
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
FREE ADMISSION TO ALL

As a vital link between the watershed and the ocean, Los Peñasquitos Lagoon is counted among the 10 percent of natural coastal wetlands remaining in San Diego County. This rare and threatened habitat, now designated Los Peñasquitos Marsh Natural Preserve as part of Torrey Pines State Natural Reserve, enjoys the protection of numerous agencies. What is the current status of the Preserve? Learn about the upstream watershed, sedimentation and lagoon mouth openings, plant communities, restoration, and wildlife tracking.

www.TorreyPines.org

 

Color brochure: http://torreypines.org/pdf/Symp09_flier.pdf

 

Program

9:00 Welcome. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Torrey Pines Association

9:05 Peñasquitos: Promise & Projects

Darren Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . California State Parks

9:20 Restoring Wetlands

Jeff Crooks . . Tijuana River National

Estuarine Research Reserve

9:40 Vegetation Sweet and Salty

Kellie Uyeda. . . . . . . . . . . . SDSU, TR NERR

10:00 Reopening the Lagoon

Mike Hastings . . . . LPL Foundation

10:20 Break

10:40 Climate Change, Lagoon Ecosystems

Doug Gibson. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .San Elijo Conservancy

11:00 What Moves Where, When?

Barry Martin. . . . . . . . . . . . San Diego TrackingTeam

11:20 Mule Deer DNA Fingerprinting

Anna Mitelberg. . . . SDSU

Andy Bohonak. . . . . SDSU

11:40 Discussion and Questions

Keith Greer . . . . . SANDAG

Darren Smith. . . . . CSP

Jeff Crooks. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TR NERR

 

 

Geoffrey D. Smith | Communications Director | geoffrey@...
San Elijo Lagoon Conservancy | P.O. Box 230634 | Encinitas, CA 92023
Office: 760-436-3944 | Cell: 858.442.1425 | Fax: 760-944-9606 |
www.SanElijo.org | Be a fan at www.facebook.com/SanElijo

 


#1363 From: "ebasil2001" <EBasil@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:24 pm
Subject: Rains are Coming, Stewardship Opportunity
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It's been so long since any sustained rains that we've all gotten used
to nearly unlimited riding, hiking and running weather. Next week, we're
forecast to have several days of rain and, if that happens, this
certainly means mud and trail closures in local parks and preserves.  As
members of the CAC group, we'll all get Ranger Washington's notification
regarding trail closures in LPCP.

It's common for many visitors to the parks not to remember or know why
San Diego trails are closed when wet, and how important it is that we
not rut or post-hole them with our shoes, bikes and horses just because
it's sunny one day and we'd like to go out, even though the trails are
still wet. Although some parks, such as the south side of Lake Hodges,
drain and dry the trails quickly, others stay wet. Of course, Los
Penasquitos is the wettest of them all, since the main part of the
canyon is only feet above the regular water table and the soils
throughout the preserve are clayey and stay wet.

It's not just the canyon floor, either:  the well-loved and used
Cobblestone trail is an example of a location high above the canyon
floor but that stays wet and has suffered mightily from visitors that
choose to ride their horses in the rain or go for a horse, bike or trail
run in the mud without thinking about the impact upon wet trails they
cause.   Each year, the trail crew (who work on this trail in the rainy
season) encounter bikes, runners and groups of horses that have come
right past the "trails closed" signs to enjoy the preserve when it's
"nice and empty", but when they wreak havoc upon trails, creating
erosion problems for the future.  The canyon is tempting when wet... and
LPCP stays wet longer than many are willing to accept.

Do what you can to spread the word among people that don't read here
about how important it is to stay out of PQ when it's wet. The Ranger
will post notices about trail closures, but your larger network of
friends won't get those -- "stewardship of the land" starts with us and
our communications to the people we know that visit our parks and
preserves.   There will be impacts, this we know from past experience,
but let's do what we can to get the word out to those we can reach.

#1362 From: "Washington, Gina" <gwashington@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 4:12 pm
Subject: (No subject)
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Hello everyone,

This is the start of the rainy season.  This first rain wasn’t enough to cause us to close the trails; however it was enough to knock out the second bridge on the trail east of Black Mountain Road.  We will be removing the bridge for the season as we always do.

 

I will keep you updated as conditions in the canyon change.  I really appreciate your cooperation and your sharing my emails so as many people as possible can stay up to date.

 

Be safe and I’ll see you on the trail.


#1361 From: LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:49 am
Subject: New file uploaded to LPCPCAC
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the LPCPCAC
group.

   File        : /Agendas and Minutes/CAC 2009 Minutes and Agendas/(6) November
19, 2009/Draft September 17 2009 minutes.doc
   Uploaded by : marvingerst <mgerst@...>
   Description : draft minutes cac meeting 9-17-09

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LPCPCAC/files/Agendas%20and%20Minutes/CAC%202009%2\
0Minutes%20and%20Agendas/%286%29%20November%2019%2C%202009/Draft%20September%201\
7%202009%20minutes.doc

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Regards,

marvingerst <mgerst@...>

#1360 From: Marvin Gerst <mgerst@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:47 am
Subject: AGENDA; CAC MEETING 11-19-09 MINUTES CAC MEETING 9-17-09
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ALL:
  material for tomorrow's CAC meeting.
I will post on the web site also.
Please look over the agenda, and if your name is attached to an item,
please be prepared to make a short report.
Nick; welcome as our newest confirmed CAC member.See you at the east end
adobe at 7pm.

--

Marvin S. Gerst, Ph.D.,
Chair, Los Penasquitos
Canyon Preserve, Citizens
Advisory Committee (LPCP-CAC)
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LPCPCAC/)

P.O. Box 3707
Rancho Santa Fe, Ca. 92067
(858) 792-7794
(858) 337-7794 cell
(858) 792-4563 fax
mgerst@...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#1359 From: LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:41 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to LPCPCAC
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the LPCPCAC
group.

   File        : /Agendas and Minutes/CAC 2009 Minutes and Agendas/(6) November
19, 2009/Agenda 11-19-09.doc
   Uploaded by : marvingerst <mgerst@...>
   Description : Meeting Agemda 11-19-09

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LPCPCAC/files/Agendas%20and%20Minutes/CAC%202009%2\
0Minutes%20and%20Agendas/%286%29%20November%2019%2C%202009/Agenda%2011-19-09.doc

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marvingerst <mgerst@...>

#1358 From: "ebasil2001" <EBasil@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:12 pm
Subject: Agenda for Nov. 19th?
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Do we have an Agenda for the Nov. 19th meeting yet?

#1357 From: bluemoondesigns@...
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: REMINDER: Regular public meeting of CAC, 11/19/2009, 7:00 pm
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Hi Marvin
I will see you thursday
I am also having trouble getting on the Yahoo site again>


Reminder from: LPCPCAC Yahoo! Group
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LPCPCAC/cal
>
> REMINDER: Regular public meeting of CAC
> Thursday November 19, 2009
> 7:00 pm - 8:45 pm
> (This event repeats every other month on the third Thursday.)
> (The next reminder for this event will be sent in 9 days, 2 minutes.)
> Location: Santa Maria de los Penasquitos adobe
>
> Notes:
> This is a REMINDER for our regularly scheduled meeting, which occurs on
> the 3rd THURSDAY of ODD NUMBERED MONTHS.  Agendas are  published 72 hrs
> before meeting; please send your agenda items to the
> Chair(mgerst@...).
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#1353 From: "ebasil2001" <EBasil@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:06 pm
Subject: 2010 Task Force Meeting Schedule Set
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At the October 2009 Task Force meeting, the committee set the schedule
for 2010.  It is:

--January 28th
--April 15th
--July 22nd
--October 14th

These meetings typically occur at 2pm, on the 12th floor of City Hall in
Conference Room "A".    They've all been calendared in our Yahoo
list-serve.

#1352 From: "ebasil2001" <EBasil@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:57 pm
Subject: Ranger Station Update
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Geoff Smith produced and presented a good update on the status of our
Ranger Station for the Task Force yesterday.  His report included some
potentially good news:  if the cards fall right we could see
construction on the project in early 2010.

I've posted a summary from Geoff's notes on the joint Black Mtn./LPCP
Ranger Station committee yahoo site, which is available from the "Links"
tab on the LPCP CAC site or directly at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LPBMRangerGroup/?yguid=40628955  .  If
you're not familiar with the Ranger Station project, you may review site
plans, architectural and landscape concepts, etc... at that location.

Since several of the operative dates in the ranger station process will
precede our next CAC meeting, we should be able to present a substantive
update at that time.

#1351 From: LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:39 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to LPCPCAC
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the LPCPCAC
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   File        : /Agendas and Minutes/Task Force 2003-09/Task Force Meeting
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   Description : Agenda 10-22-09

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Regards,

marvingerst <mgerst@...>

#1350 From: LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:37 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to LPCPCAC
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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   File        : /Agendas and Minutes/Task Force 2003-09/Task Force Meeting
10-22-09/Task Force Minutes meeting 7-27-09.doc
   Uploaded by : marvingerst <mgerst@...>
   Description : Minutes 7-27-09

You can access this file at the URL:
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%202003-09/Task%20Force%20Meeting%2010-22-09/Task%20Force%20Minutes%20meeting%20\
7-27-09.doc

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#1349 From: "Geoffrey Smith" <geoffrey@...>
Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:21 pm
Subject: FW: LPCP TF Minutes/Agenda/Attachments
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5 Gigantic attachments have been removed.

 

Geoffrey

 

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From: Irving, Rhonda [mailto:RTIrving@...]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:28 PM
To: Haupt, Steve
Cc: Miller, Betsy; Santoro, Kerry; Thompson, Rick
Subject: LPCP TF Minutes/Agenda/Attachments

 

Hello,

 

Please find the minutes, agenda and attachments for the upcoming LPCP TF meeting.  Contact Staff Representative, DM Steve Haupt @ 619-533-6733 should you have questions.

 

 

Rhonda Irving

City of San Diego
Park and Recreation Department
Open Space Division
1250 Sixth Ave, 4th Floor  MS804A
San Diego, CA  92101-4215

619-533-6728

RTIrving@...


#1348 From: "Geoffrey Smith" <geoffrey@...>
Date: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:40 pm
Subject: FW: New City of San Diego Park and Rec Board Agenda / Minutes
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From: SDPR Committees [mailto:Committees@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 2:23 AM
To: PARKBOARD@...
Subject: New Agenda / Minutes

 

 

A new agenda and minutes have been posted for the San Diego Park & Recreation Board

 


#1347 From: "glphotos" <glphoto@...>
Date: Thu Oct 8, 2009 10:29 pm
Subject: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon
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http://www.examiner.com/x-10317-San-Diego-County-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m1\
0d5-Migrant-camps-in-San-Diego-are-busy-with-prostitution?#comments

Over the weekend the San Diego Minutemen stumbled upon some extra curricular
activities in McGonigle Canyon in the city of San Diego -illegal prostitution.
A couple of Minutemen activists, who often scout the local canyons for illegal
migrant and squatter camps and their associated crimes and fire hazards,
observed an unusually high number of well-dressed Latino men and boys traversing
the field into an old grove of eucalyptus trees.

After 45-minutes of observation, the pair were joined by a freelance
photojournalist and decided to get a closer look at the scene because the canyon
has a history of prostitution in a nearby location aptly named the "rape grove."
Once they reached the tree grove, approximately eight men and two girls
scattered into all directions, according to Jeff Schwilk, founder of SDMM.
What they found inside the trees were two makeshift "sex dens" complete with
used and unused multi-colored condoms, lubricant, women's clothing and shoes and
a rough-shod bed. A man suspected of being a pimp or a "John" and a suspected
prostitute were apprehended by the San Diego Police Department.

Schwilk pointed out the well-used foot paths as the signs that led his group to
suspect something fishy was taking place. "We noted the paths through the brush
leading into the prostitution area were very well worn and the `lounge' area was
cleared of brush," Schwilk explained.
"It appears that prostitution has been going on in this area regularly for many
months," he said.

Schwilk referred to this problem as San Diego's `dirty little secret,' and notes
his frustration with local law enforcement not doing enough to keep the canyon
clear of dozens of migrant camps which provide many of the clients for the field
prostitution ring. "Three years ago SDMM exposed the daytime prostitution ring
in the old rape grove, but many migrant camps have remained."
Local illegal immigration activist, Enrique Monrones, still visits the migrant
camps in the canyon a couple of Saturdays a month, according to emails he sends
out to his group. "He claims to be delivering food and water to the illegal
squatters," Schwilk said.
A local resident said he was shocked about the crimes taking place below his
housing development. "I don't like it," he said as he walked the popular canyon
with his toddler. "I guess they (police) should take care of that problem."
The apprehended perpetrators are suspected of being illegal aliens, although the
female claimed she had been in the country illegally for 17 years. According to
conversations with the suspected prostitute, who wouldn't share her name at the
scene, she was worried that this may hurt her chances of becoming a legal
resident some day.

SDMM reported the crimes immediately to the San Diego Police Department, who
arrived near the scene, but failed to investigate the prostitution site and
continue to interview all who were involved.
The San Diego Police Department has not confirmed whether the apprehensions
culminated in arrests yet.
After visiting the scene the next day, police had not cleared the area of used
condoms and trash, leaving one to wonder what kind of diseases could be
contracted by passersby and whether the police even bothered to collect any
evidence of the prostitution the citizens walked in on.

#1346 From: mike@...
Date: Fri Oct 9, 2009 6:46 am
Subject: Re: RE: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon
mike@...
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Well put EBasil, that pretty much sums it up. Once again their little plan would have worked to if it weren't foiled by those pesky concerned citizens.  If only they could just stop the public from reporting such incidents then they could just sit back and get everyone to drink the KoolAid of their own Utopian ideology.  Jokes aside, we need real solutions for real problems, not just what theories are regurgitated in the bureaucratic playbook.  When the powers that be lack the ability to weigh the greater good in a situation and put first only the bias in which their rooted, then all will soon be lost.  I wonder how many women and maybe even children have been exploited and possibly even murdered in our lovley little nature habbitat.  I urge the CAC to detour from the usual activities of debating the font on a street sign and move on an issue of great importance. Where is the outrage?

Pesky Concerned Citizen,

Mike Maio

Quoting EBasil@...:

 

I think the relevance is clear to all but the "flat earth society" that have spun fanciful tales about Deer Canyon, even in the face of the facts.  That relevance, to those persons and organizations that find themselves concerned with the well-being of our open space and an honest assessment of the long-term impacts from dumping, lastrines, farming, kitchen, and camps in our canyons, includes the observation that the McGonigle Canyon camps have spilled over into Deer Canyon before...  will they again?  

We all know that a combination of Immigration & Customs Enforcement and public access to the then-privately owned areas in Deer Canyon made it undesirable for the migrants over the past few years, but we also know that at least two new small camps and a large, irrigated marijuana farm have sprung up over the last year while the Agencies and City evaluate and opine over public access to public lands, versus criminal access to public lands.    As in the past, it's been citizen stewards that find and report such travesty.  I think many people are concernced that, if enforcement were to visit upon McGonigle (which appears to be an unofficial "safe haven" for migrants), this type of mess could return to Deer Canyon, where so many have worked so hard to protect and preserve it from this kind of thing.

Wouldn't it be a disaster were the migrants and drug lords to take over our open space while we cast aside our eyes and pretend they have less impact on our habitat than a well-managed trail system populated by citizens with a keen eye for preservation of our resources?   The good news is that years of volunteerism by the trails community, marked not the least by the removal of over 60 cubic yards of migrant and "dumper" refuse from Deer Canyon on Earth Day '09, has had a reparative and mitigative effect upon the Deer Canyon lands.  Can we be courageous and open-minded enough to ensure this progress isn't wasted?   

Time will tell.  


Erik


-----Original Message-----
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To: glphotos //glphoto@cox.//glphoto@cox.//>//glphoto@cox.//>//>//>net>; LPCPCAC@yahoogroups//wbr>//wbr>//>//wbr>//>//>//>.com
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:32 pm
Subject: [LPCPCAC] RE: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon

 
This is irrelevant. Despite any assertions to the contrary, Deer Canyon
is not another way to spell McGonigle Canyon.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: glphotos [mailto:glphoto@cox.//wbr>//wbr>//>//wbr>//>//>//>net]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:29 PM
To: LPCPCAC@yahoogroups//wbr>//wbr>//>//wbr>//>//>//>.com
Subject: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon

http://www.examiner//wbr>//wbr>//>//wbr>//>//>//>.com/x-10317-//wbr>//wbr>//>//wbr>//>//>//>San-Diego-//wbr>//wbr>//>//wbr>//>//>//>County-Political//wbr>//wbr>//>//wbr>//>//>//>-Buzz-Examiner
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nts

Over the weekend the San Diego Minutemen stumbled upon some extra
curricular activities in McGonigle Canyon in the city of San Diego
-illegal prostitution.
A couple of Minutemen activists, who often scout the local canyons for
illegal migrant and squatter camps and their associated crimes and fire
hazards, observed an unusually high number of well-dressed Latino men
and boys traversing the field into an old grove of eucalyptus trees.

After 45-minutes of observation, the pair were joined by a freelance
photojournalist and decided to get a closer look at the scene because
the canyon has a history of prostitution in a nearby location aptly
named the "rape grove."
Once they reached the tree grove, approximately eight men and two girls
scattered into all directions, according to Jeff Schwilk, founder of
SDMM.
What they found inside the trees were two makeshift "sex dens" complete
with used and unused multi-colored condoms, lubricant, women's clothing
and shoes and a rough-shod bed. A man suspected of being a pimp or a
"John" and a suspected prostitute were apprehended by the San Diego
Police Department.

Schwilk pointed out the well-used foot paths as the signs that led his
group to suspect something fishy was taking place. "We noted the paths
through the brush leading into the prostitution area were very well worn
and the `lounge' area was cleared of brush," Schwilk explained.
"It appears that prostitution has been going on in this area regularly
for many months," he said.

Schwilk referred to this problem as San Diego's `dirty little secret,'
and notes his frustration with local law enforcement not doing enough to
keep the canyon clear of dozens of migrant camps which provide many of
the clients for the field prostitution ring. "Three years ago SDMM
exposed the daytime prostitution ring in the old rape grove, but many
migrant camps have remained."
Local illegal immigration activist, Enrique Monrones, still visits the
migrant camps in the canyon a couple of Saturdays a month, according to
emails he sends out to his group. "He claims to be delivering food and
water to the illegal squatters," Schwilk said.
A local resident said he was shocked about the crimes taking place below
his housing development. "I don't like it," he said as he walked the
popular canyon with his toddler. "I guess they (police) should take care
of that problem."
The apprehended perpetrators are suspected of being illegal aliens,
although the female claimed she had been in the country illegally for 17
years. According to conversations with the suspected prostitute, who
wouldn't share her name at the scene, she was worried that this may hurt
her chances of becoming a legal resident some day.

SDMM reported the crimes immediately to the San Diego Police Department,
who arrived near the scene, but failed to investigate the prostitution
site and continue to interview all who were involved.
The San Diego Police Department has not confirmed whether the
apprehensions culminated in arrests yet.
After visiting the scene the next day, police had not cleared the area
of used condoms and trash, leaving one to wonder what kind of diseases
could be contracted by passersby and whether the police even bothered to
collect any evidence of the prostitution the citizens walked in on.


#1345 From: patrick hord <chatamour7@...>
Date: Fri Oct 9, 2009 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: RE: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon
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Hello,

Never a dull moment while working to preserve the Preserve.

Patrick Lee Hord

"What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. For whatever happens to the beasts, soon happens to man. All things are connected."
 
Chief Seattle



--- On Thu, 10/8/09, EBasil@... <EBasil@...> wrote:

From: EBasil@... <EBasil@...>
Subject: Re: [LPCPCAC] RE: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon
To: lpcpcac@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 9:40 PM

 

I think the relevance is clear to all but the "flat earth society" that have spun fanciful tales about Deer Canyon, even in the face of the facts.  That relevance, to those persons and organizations that find themselves concerned with the well-being of our open space and an honest assessment of the long-term impacts from dumping, lastrines, farming, kitchen, and camps in our canyons, includes the observation that the McGonigle Canyon camps have spilled over into Deer Canyon before...  will they again?  

We all know that a combination of Immigration & Customs Enforcement and public access to the then-privately owned areas in Deer Canyon made it undesirable for the migrants over the past few years, but we also know that at least two new small camps and a large, irrigated marijuana farm have sprung up over the last year while the Agencies and City evaluate and opine over public access to public lands, versus criminal access to public lands.    As in the past, it's been citizen stewards that find and report such travesty.  I think many people are concernced that, if enforcement were to visit upon McGonigle (which appears to be an unofficial "safe haven" for migrants), this type of mess could return to Deer Canyon, where so many have worked so hard to protect and preserve it from this kind of thing.

Wouldn't it be a disaster were the migrants and drug lords to take over our open space while we cast aside our eyes and pretend they have less impact on our habitat than a well-managed trail system populated by citizens with a keen eye for preservation of our resources?   The good news is that years of volunteerism by the trails community, marked not the least by the removal of over 60 cubic yards of migrant and "dumper" refuse from Deer Canyon on Earth Day '09, has had a reparative and mitigative effect upon the Deer Canyon lands.  Can we be courageous and open-minded enough to ensure this progress isn't wasted?   

Time will tell.  


Erik


-----Original Message-----
From: Swanson, Brian D. <bswanson@semprautil ities.com>
To: glphotos <glphoto@cox. net>; LPCPCAC@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:32 pm
Subject: [LPCPCAC] RE: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon

 
This is irrelevant. Despite any assertions to the contrary, Deer Canyon
is not another way to spell McGonigle Canyon.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: glphotos [mailto:glphoto@cox. net]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:29 PM
To: LPCPCAC@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon

http://www.examiner .com/x-10317- San-Diego- County-Political -Buzz-Examiner
~y2009m10d5- Migrant-camps- in-San-Diego- are-busy- with-prostitutio n?#comme
nts

Over the weekend the San Diego Minutemen stumbled upon some extra
curricular activities in McGonigle Canyon in the city of San Diego
-illegal prostitution.
A couple of Minutemen activists, who often scout the local canyons for
illegal migrant and squatter camps and their associated crimes and fire
hazards, observed an unusually high number of well-dressed Latino men
and boys traversing the field into an old grove of eucalyptus trees.

After 45-minutes of observation, the pair were joined by a freelance
photojournalist and decided to get a closer look at the scene because
the canyon has a history of prostitution in a nearby location aptly
named the "rape grove."
Once they reached the tree grove, approximately eight men and two girls
scattered into all directions, according to Jeff Schwilk, founder of
SDMM.
What they found inside the trees were two makeshift "sex dens" complete
with used and unused multi-colored condoms, lubricant, women's clothing
and shoes and a rough-shod bed. A man suspected of being a pimp or a
"John" and a suspected prostitute were apprehended by the San Diego
Police Department.

Schwilk pointed out the well-used foot paths as the signs that led his
group to suspect something fishy was taking place. "We noted the paths
through the brush leading into the prostitution area were very well worn
and the `lounge' area was cleared of brush," Schwilk explained.
"It appears that prostitution has been going on in this area regularly
for many months," he said.

Schwilk referred to this problem as San Diego's `dirty little secret,'
and notes his frustration with local law enforcement not doing enough to
keep the canyon clear of dozens of migrant camps which provide many of
the clients for the field prostitution ring. "Three years ago SDMM
exposed the daytime prostitution ring in the old rape grove, but many
migrant camps have remained."
Local illegal immigration activist, Enrique Monrones, still visits the
migrant camps in the canyon a couple of Saturdays a month, according to
emails he sends out to his group. "He claims to be delivering food and
water to the illegal squatters," Schwilk said.
A local resident said he was shocked about the crimes taking place below
his housing development. "I don't like it," he said as he walked the
popular canyon with his toddler. "I guess they (police) should take care
of that problem."
The apprehended perpetrators are suspected of being illegal aliens,
although the female claimed she had been in the country illegally for 17
years. According to conversations with the suspected prostitute, who
wouldn't share her name at the scene, she was worried that this may hurt
her chances of becoming a legal resident some day.

SDMM reported the crimes immediately to the San Diego Police Department,
who arrived near the scene, but failed to investigate the prostitution
site and continue to interview all who were involved.
The San Diego Police Department has not confirmed whether the
apprehensions culminated in arrests yet.
After visiting the scene the next day, police had not cleared the area
of used condoms and trash, leaving one to wonder what kind of diseases
could be contracted by passersby and whether the police even bothered to
collect any evidence of the prostitution the citizens walked in on.


#1344 From: EBasil@...
Date: Fri Oct 9, 2009 4:40 am
Subject: Re: RE: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon
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I think the relevance is clear to all but the "flat earth society" that have spun fanciful tales about Deer Canyon, even in the face of the facts.  That relevance, to those persons and organizations that find themselves concerned with the well-being of our open space and an honest assessment of the long-term impacts from dumping, lastrines, farming, kitchen, and camps in our canyons, includes the observation that the McGonigle Canyon camps have spilled over into Deer Canyon before...  will they again?  

We all know that a combination of Immigration & Customs Enforcement and public access to the then-privately owned areas in Deer Canyon made it undesirable for the migrants over the past few years, but we also know that at least two new small camps and a large, irrigated marijuana farm have sprung up over the last year while the Agencies and City evaluate and opine over public access to public lands, versus criminal access to public lands.    As in the past, it's been citizen stewards that find and report such travesty.  I think many people are concernced that, if enforcement were to visit upon McGonigle (which appears to be an unofficial "safe haven" for migrants), this type of mess could return to Deer Canyon, where so many have worked so hard to protect and preserve it from this kind of thing.

Wouldn't it be a disaster were the migrants and drug lords to take over our open space while we cast aside our eyes and pretend they have less impact on our habitat than a well-managed trail system populated by citizens with a keen eye for preservation of our resources?   The good news is that years of volunteerism by the trails community, marked not the least by the removal of over 60 cubic yards of migrant and "dumper" refuse from Deer Canyon on Earth Day '09, has had a reparative and mitigative effect upon the Deer Canyon lands.  Can we be courageous and open-minded enough to ensure this progress isn't wasted?   

Time will tell.  


Erik


-----Original Message-----
From: Swanson, Brian D. <bswanson@...>
To: glphotos <glphoto@...>; LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:32 pm
Subject: [LPCPCAC] RE: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon

 
This is irrelevant. Despite any assertions to the contrary, Deer Canyon
is not another way to spell McGonigle Canyon.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: glphotos [mailto:glphoto@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:29 PM
To: LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon

http://www.examiner.com/x-10317-San-Diego-County-Political-Buzz-Examiner
~y2009m10d5-Migrant-camps-in-San-Diego-are-busy-with-prostitution?#comme
nts

Over the weekend the San Diego Minutemen stumbled upon some extra
curricular activities in McGonigle Canyon in the city of San Diego
-illegal prostitution.
A couple of Minutemen activists, who often scout the local canyons for
illegal migrant and squatter camps and their associated crimes and fire
hazards, observed an unusually high number of well-dressed Latino men
and boys traversing the field into an old grove of eucalyptus trees.

After 45-minutes of observation, the pair were joined by a freelance
photojournalist and decided to get a closer look at the scene because
the canyon has a history of prostitution in a nearby location aptly
named the "rape grove."
Once they reached the tree grove, approximately eight men and two girls
scattered into all directions, according to Jeff Schwilk, founder of
SDMM.
What they found inside the trees were two makeshift "sex dens" complete
with used and unused multi-colored condoms, lubricant, women's clothing
and shoes and a rough-shod bed. A man suspected of being a pimp or a
"John" and a suspected prostitute were apprehended by the San Diego
Police Department.

Schwilk pointed out the well-used foot paths as the signs that led his
group to suspect something fishy was taking place. "We noted the paths
through the brush leading into the prostitution area were very well worn
and the `lounge' area was cleared of brush," Schwilk explained.
"It appears that prostitution has been going on in this area regularly
for many months," he said.

Schwilk referred to this problem as San Diego's `dirty little secret,'
and notes his frustration with local law enforcement not doing enough to
keep the canyon clear of dozens of migrant camps which provide many of
the clients for the field prostitution ring. "Three years ago SDMM
exposed the daytime prostitution ring in the old rape grove, but many
migrant camps have remained."
Local illegal immigration activist, Enrique Monrones, still visits the
migrant camps in the canyon a couple of Saturdays a month, according to
emails he sends out to his group. "He claims to be delivering food and
water to the illegal squatters," Schwilk said.
A local resident said he was shocked about the crimes taking place below
his housing development. "I don't like it," he said as he walked the
popular canyon with his toddler. "I guess they (police) should take care
of that problem."
The apprehended perpetrators are suspected of being illegal aliens,
although the female claimed she had been in the country illegally for 17
years. According to conversations with the suspected prostitute, who
wouldn't share her name at the scene, she was worried that this may hurt
her chances of becoming a legal resident some day.

SDMM reported the crimes immediately to the San Diego Police Department,
who arrived near the scene, but failed to investigate the prostitution
site and continue to interview all who were involved.
The San Diego Police Department has not confirmed whether the
apprehensions culminated in arrests yet.
After visiting the scene the next day, police had not cleared the area
of used condoms and trash, leaving one to wonder what kind of diseases
could be contracted by passersby and whether the police even bothered to
collect any evidence of the prostitution the citizens walked in on.


#1343 From: "Swanson, Brian D." <bswanson@...>
Date: Thu Oct 8, 2009 10:32 pm
Subject: RE: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon
swanhiker
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This is irrelevant.  Despite any assertions to the contrary, Deer Canyon
is not another way to spell McGonigle Canyon.


Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: glphotos [mailto:glphoto@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:29 PM
To: LPCPCAC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Illegals and prostitution in McGonigle Canyon

http://www.examiner.com/x-10317-San-Diego-County-Political-Buzz-Examiner
~y2009m10d5-Migrant-camps-in-San-Diego-are-busy-with-prostitution?#comme
nts

Over the weekend the San Diego Minutemen stumbled upon some extra
curricular activities in McGonigle Canyon in the city of San Diego
-illegal prostitution.
A couple of Minutemen activists, who often scout the local canyons for
illegal migrant and squatter camps and their associated crimes and fire
hazards, observed an unusually high number of well-dressed Latino men
and boys traversing the field into an old grove of eucalyptus trees.

After 45-minutes of observation, the pair were joined by a freelance
photojournalist and decided to get a closer look at the scene because
the canyon has a history of prostitution in a nearby location aptly
named the "rape grove."
Once they reached the tree grove, approximately eight men and two girls
scattered into all directions, according to Jeff Schwilk, founder of
SDMM.
What they found inside the trees were two makeshift "sex dens" complete
with used and unused multi-colored condoms, lubricant, women's clothing
and shoes and a rough-shod bed. A man suspected of being a pimp or a
"John" and a suspected prostitute were apprehended by the San Diego
Police Department.

Schwilk pointed out the well-used foot paths as the signs that led his
group to suspect something fishy was taking place. "We noted the paths
through the brush leading into the prostitution area were very well worn
and the `lounge' area was cleared of brush," Schwilk explained.
"It appears that prostitution has been going on in this area regularly
for many months," he said.

Schwilk referred to this problem as San Diego's `dirty little secret,'
and notes his frustration with local law enforcement not doing enough to
keep the canyon clear of dozens of migrant camps which provide many of
the clients for the field prostitution ring. "Three years ago SDMM
exposed the daytime prostitution ring in the old rape grove, but many
migrant camps have remained."
Local illegal immigration activist, Enrique Monrones, still visits the
migrant camps in the canyon a couple of Saturdays a month, according to
emails he sends out to his group. "He claims to be delivering food and
water to the illegal squatters," Schwilk said.
A local resident said he was shocked about the crimes taking place below
his housing development. "I don't like it," he said as he walked the
popular canyon with his toddler. "I guess they (police) should take care
of that problem."
The apprehended perpetrators are suspected of being illegal aliens,
although the female claimed she had been in the country illegally for 17
years. According to conversations with the suspected prostitute, who
wouldn't share her name at the scene, she was worried that this may hurt
her chances of becoming a legal resident some day.

SDMM reported the crimes immediately to the San Diego Police Department,
who arrived near the scene, but failed to investigate the prostitution
site and continue to interview all who were involved.
The San Diego Police Department has not confirmed whether the
apprehensions culminated in arrests yet.
After visiting the scene the next day, police had not cleared the area
of used condoms and trash, leaving one to wonder what kind of diseases
could be contracted by passersby and whether the police even bothered to
collect any evidence of the prostitution the citizens walked in on.

#1342 From: EBasil@...
Date: Tue Oct 6, 2009 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: Construction at the West End of LPCP
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Thanks for the update.  Considering how long ago it was that we approved this project at the CAC, it's good too see implementation before another rainy season (even if it's going to be a light one).

Erik Basil


-----Original Message-----
From: Washington, Gina <GWashington@...>
To: Haupt, Steve <SHaupt@...>
Sent: Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:24 am
Subject: Construction at the West End of LPCP

Hi All,
Sorry I was remiss in sending this notice earlier.  The construction at the west end of Los Peñasquitos Canyon Preserve on the north side is the Peñasquitos Lagoon Sedimentation Basin.  The Los Peñasquitos Lagoon Foundation is construction a basin to collect sediment during high water condition to prevent silt build up in the lagoon.  The construction phase should be a fairly quick process which is requiring a trail detour up and around the site on the access road from 7:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Monday through Friday.  Once the soil hauling is complete they will begin the rip rap wall placement and some planting.
 
Gina Washington
Senior Park Ranger
City of San Diego, Open Space Division
858.538.8066 (PH)
858.536.8334 (FAX)

#1341 From: Geoffrey Smith <geoffrey@...>
Date: Tue Oct 6, 2009 4:59 pm
Subject: FW: Construction at the West End of LPCP
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Geoffrey D. Smith, MA
858.442.1425
Sent from a Windows Mobile® phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: Washington, Gina <GWashington@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:24 AM
To: Haupt, Steve <SHaupt@...>
Subject: Construction at the West End of LPCP

Hi All,
Sorry I was remiss in sending this notice earlier.  The construction at the west
end of Los Peñasquitos Canyon Preserve on the north side is the Peñasquitos
Lagoon Sedimentation Basin.  The Los Peñasquitos Lagoon Foundation is
construction a basin to collect sediment during high water condition to prevent
silt build up in the lagoon.  The construction phase should be a fairly quick
process which is requiring a trail detour up and around the site on the access
road from 7:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Monday through Friday.  Once the soil hauling
is complete they will begin the rip rap wall placement and some planting.

Gina Washington
Senior Park Ranger
City of San Diego, Open Space Division
858.538.8066 (PH)
858.536.8334 (FAX)

#1339 From: Anastasia Shupp <Susham@...>
Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:18 am
Subject: Fwd: In the event of an emergency: Animal Evacuation Instructions
samravn
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Please forward this to the equestrians in the group.  Thanks!

                                   ---A.


http://www.sdfair.com/index.php?fuseaction=about.press_details&newsid=518

Press Releases  
 

In the event of an emergency: Animal Evacuation Instructions



Released: September 24, 2009

DEL MAR, CA, Sept. 24, 2009
­ San Diego County currently is under a Red Alert for firestorms. The staff of the Del Mar Fairgrounds would like to assist stable owners and managers, trainers and owners of horses with evacuation plans in the event of a firestorm in San Diego County, and the probability that your horses will be transported to the Del Mar Fairgrounds or Del Mar Horsepark for shelter.

During the 2007 firestorms, the Fairgrounds housed about 2,200 horses and other large animals. We also sheltered animals during the 2003 Cedar fire. Based on what we learned in meetings with staff from the County’s Office of Emergency Services, Animal Control, volunteers, veterinarians, and evacuees, we would like to provide information as to what to expect once you arrive at the Fairgrounds with your horses.

Before your horses leave your home or stables, please:

• Make sure they have halters, lead ropes and water buckets.

• Make sure the horses are identified. If your horse does not have their name on its halter, put duct tape on it with its name and your phone number. We’ve seen phone numbers painted on the sides and hooves of horses as well.

• If you have time, please load some hay on your trailers. While the Fairgrounds can order hay while providing shelter, its delivery can be delayed if highways are closed due to the fires.

• Pack general first aid supplies, such as antiseptic ointments and bandaging materials.

When your horses arrive at our facility, the driver of each vehicle hauling horses will be given a form to fill out for each horse. This form may be downloaded here [PDF document], in case you wish to print it and fill in your information before your horses are evacuated.

Our staff and volunteers will do their best to get the trailers into the barn areas quickly, get the animals unloaded and into stalls. Passenger vehicles may be diverted to be parked in another area. This will be done to facilitate the sheltering of your animals, so that the trailers and vans may leave as quickly as possible to pick up more animals being evacuated and requiring shelter.

In the event of an evacuation, please call (858) 755-1161 for information. You will be prompted to enter # 1 to reach the Stable Office.

We hope this information will be helpful to you while you are making your plans in the event of evacuation.

For more information, please contact:
Del Mar Fairgrounds
858-755-1161
info@...

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