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#7120 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 11:02 am
Subject: Re: Looking for... skwisniowski
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Krystyna

If you go to http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm and plug in KOLBISZOWA and select Russia you get over 20 potential candidates. However, these 2 seem more likely given the spelling and pronounciation:

KOLBYCHEVO    54.24 N. 127.11 E. Russia     3286.2 miles NE of Moscow
KOLBYSHEVO    56.27 N. 74.40 E. Russia     1411.5 miles ENE of Moscow

and maybe CHALBYSHEVO    58.04 N. 91.54 E     Russia     1998.1 miles ENE of Moscow

Did your family have any documents from the British or Polish forces that might narrow down the region?

On the other hand, by July 1942 she would have already been released under the 1941 Sikorski-Majsky agreement and this could well have been a place in transit. For clues on the original holding place, it is worth looking for other clues.

Were your parents deported to the same place? Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski

From: "zembocin" <krystynafreiburger@...>
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.

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#7121 From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 11:10 am
Subject: New file uploaded to Kresy-Siberia Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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release of Polish Army military service records

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#7122 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 11:14 am
Subject: British Post delays skwisniowski
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Linder sends this update in reference to requests to the UK Minsitry of Defense.

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From: "ladbrooke" <ladbrooke@...>

URGENT MESSAGE TO GO ON K-S PLEASE

NO POST MOVING IN UK, because of 'union strike' about wages. Post collection boxes sealed by Post Office for the first time in 20 years. Nothing out of/into UK - don't send anything, don't expect any replies group!
Usually, 4-6 weeks to clear backlog when over, but we just don't know about this time. Christmas coming too!
Still, on the bright side, we needn't buy Xmas card stamps..

Linder

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#7123 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 11:47 am
Subject: Re: Query on Bakker/Bekker skwisniowski
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Bert said no he is no relation, and it is likely to be "Bekker?.
Stefan Wisniowski

From: "Vantom" <vantom@...>
Tony, I have noticed that there is a Bert Bakker posting on this site. Perhaps he is somebody you are looking for. Hope you find what your looking for.
Best wishes
Vanessa Tomecki

[...] we know is that her second husband's surname was
Bakker or Bekker, & his christian name may have been Billy. [...]
Tony Golinski

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#7124 From: Eve5J@...
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 7:00 am
Subject: Recent Submissions to the Kresy-Siberia Memorial Wall eve5j
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Dear Group:

I would like to apologize for the September and October submissions not being placed on the Wall as yet. Halina and I were basically on vacation in September. At the beginning of October my computer had to be sent for service and was just returned to me this week. Yesterday when I began adding two months of submissions, I realized there is a problem which will be taken care of, but it may take time. I ask that all who recently submitted names to please bear with me. I will inform you and the Group as soon as the names are online and viewable.

We will still be accepting new submissions during this hopefully short "down" time, so please do not hesitate to send in new names. As usual, the Memorial Wall may be viewed here:

http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/memorial/

Please send submissions to: ksmemorialwall@...

Eve Jankowicz

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#7125 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 12:04 pm
Subject: 1863 uprising skwisniowski
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My great-grandfather was deported after the 1863 uprising as well, and their land near Konin was seized by the Russians. Seems to run in the family...
Stefan Wisniowski
Sydney Australia

From: b.davoust@...
[...] My great-great-grandfather too was deported after the 1863 uprising, and their land
near Lublin was seized. But I have not been able to figure out how to find out any
further information. Do you have any suggestions?
Barbara Davoust
Toulouse, France

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#7126 From: "Ken Fedzin" <ken.fedzin@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 12:18 pm
Subject: RE: Looking for... ken.fedzin@...
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Hi Stefan!

I'd already referred Krystyna to the ShtetlSeeker, but I read your response to her and was interested in the comments you made about the Hoover Institution holding Amnesty Certificates. Do they have these for most families/individuals who were deported to, and released from, Siberia? I've no idea where my father's family were sent to. Perhaps these could tell me and how can copies be obtained.

Regards, Ken Fedzin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Wisniowski [mailto:swisniowski@...]
Sent: 01 November 2003 11:02
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Looking for...

Krystyna

If you go to http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm and plug in KOLBISZOWA and select Russia you get over 20 potential candidates. However, these 2 seem more likely given the spelling and pronounciation:

KOLBYCHEVO    54.24 N. 127.11 E. Russia     3286.2 miles NE of Moscow
KOLBYSHEVO    56.27 N. 74.40 E. Russia     1411.5 miles ENE of Moscow

and maybe CHALBYSHEVO    58.04 N. 91.54 E     Russia     1998.1 miles ENE of Moscow

Did your family have any documents from the British or Polish forces that might narrow down the region?

On the other hand, by July 1942 she would have already been released under the 1941 Sikorski-Majsky agreement and this could well have been a place in transit. For clues on the original holding place, it is worth looking for other clues.

Were your parents deported to the same place? Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski

From: "zembocin" <krystynafreiburger@...>
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.

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#7127 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for... skwisniowski
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Hi Ken,
Good news: full info available at http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/mainref.html#r3
Bad news: Only 13,500 certificates and 12,000 written testimonies (some overlapping). I do not believe they have any on "Fedzin"

Stefan WIsniowski

From: "Ken Fedzin" <ken.fedzin@...>
[...] interested in the comments you made about the Hoover Institution holding Amnesty Certificates. Do they have these for most families/individuals who were deported to, and released from, Siberia? I've no idea where my father's family were sent to. Perhaps these could tell me and how can copies be obtained.
Regards, Ken Fedzin.

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#7128 From: Anna Coates <asmcoates2002@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: Query on Bakker/Bekker asmcoates2002
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Hi Tony,

I will try and get the name for you from my mum. The correct spelling is Bekker, the daughter's name is Katrina and Billy is Katrina's husband. Will get the infor when next I speak to my mum. Have a good weekend.

Anna

Tony Golinski <tony@...> wrote:

I am looking for any Bakker/Bekker surnames in relation to my family, Golinski. My Grandmother - Katarzyna Golinski - remarried in Africa, possibly Rhodesia, & all we know is that her second husband's surname was Bakker or Bekker, & his christian name may have been Billy. They had a daughter (also called Katarzyna), but I have no further information at this time. Are there any members able to help? Regards Tony Golinski

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#7129 From: "Ken Fedzin" <ken.fedzin@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 12:47 pm
Subject: Searching for towns/villages and Parish records. ken.fedzin@...
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Hi All!

Not everyone seems to know about the Jewishgen Shtetl(town/village) Seeker
and the Mormon, Family History websites. These are two excellent referrence
tools.

To find the location of a village/town go to
www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/   Click on 'search for towns by name'. You
can select exact spelling or soundex system(try both),  and also select
individual country or all countries. When the list is brought up click on
the given co-ordinates.

The Mormon's have filmed millions of Parish records from all over the world.
These can be ordered (in person)through a local Mormon( Jesus Christ of
Latterday Saints) Church, Family History Library, and you can arrange to go
and view/search them. To find if they have filmed in the known Parish go to
www.familysearch.org  Select 'search' then 'Family History Library
Catalogue'. Then go on to 'Place Search' to find if the Parish has been
filmed. If it has, details of some villages/towns covered are given.

Good Luck to everyone searching these for the first time.

Ken Fedzin.

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#7130 From: Tom & Glenda Sajwaj <tesajwaj@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: Zdzienciol tesajwaj
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Irene,

Are you still looking for info on Zdzieciol located in Grodno/Nowogrodek provinces?

Tom Sajwaj

Irene Tomaszewski wrote:

�

Does anyone have photos or other info on Zdzienciol (not sure of spelling). I believe it is quite close to Grodno.

�

Irene Tomaszewski

Montreal

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#7131 From: "Siergiej Korycki" <porKo@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 5:22 pm
Subject: 1863 porKo@...
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Hi, group.

If someone know Russian - please see
http://www.rusarchives.ru/publication/polone140.shtml#s1

My English is bad, but I will diligent respond to questions.

Best regards

  Siergiej Korycki

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#7132 From: "feb10transport" <richpna@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 5:20 pm
Subject: Quesiton of Honor, For Your Freedom and Ours feb10transport
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Dear Group,
The wonderful book by authors Lynn Olson and Stanley Cloud entitled,
A Question of Honor in the US and For Your Freedom and Ours
elsewhere, can be purchased on amazon.com at significantly reduced
rates.  In the US the book sells for $27+.  I purchased it for
$13.00 with tax and shipping.  The book is a must read and should be
given as a Christmas present to love ones.  Additionally it should
be purchased and presented to local libraries for the general public
to know of the plight of Poles during WWII and how they were
cynically sold out by their allies.
Take care,
Rich Widerynski
richpna@...

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#7133 From: "Irene Tomaszewski" <irene.tomaszewski@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 5:41 pm
Subject: Re: Zdzienciol itomasz40
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Yes. Very much so.

Irene

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From: Tom & Glenda Sajwaj

To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:48 AM

Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Zdzienciol

Irene,

Are you still looking for info on Zdzieciol located in Grodno/Nowogrodek provinces?

Tom Sajwaj

Irene Tomaszewski wrote:

Does anyone have photos or other info on Zdzienciol (not sure of spelling). I believe it is quite close to Grodno.

Irene Tomaszewski

Montreal

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#7134 From: "Krystyna Freiburger" <krystynafreiburger@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 1:47 am
Subject: Re: Looking for... zembocin
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Thank you Stefan .....yes those certificates would be my father's and mom's cousin but what do I have to do to obtain them ???

Were your parents deported to the same place? Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski

From: "zembocin" <krystynafreiburger@...>
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.

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#7135 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 5:05 am
Subject: Re: Looking for Piotrowski (Pietrowski) skwisniowski
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You can contact the Hoover Institution at Stanford University as per the details on the website at http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/reference.html

Our group member at the HI is Irena Czernichowska, who I will copy on this e-mail for her attention. She may be able to help you and may possibly have some information on "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

Stefan Wisniowski

From: "Krystyna Freiburger" <krystynafreiburger@...>
Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:47:45 -0500
To: <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Looking for...

Thank you Stefan .....yes those certificates would be my father's and mom's cousin but what do I have to do to obtain them ???

Were your parents deported to the same place? Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski

From: "zembocin" <krystynafreiburger@...>
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.

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#7136 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 5:33 am
Subject: Tulacze Dzieci - Exiled Children skwisniowski
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I have just received a copy of this very informative book from Edward
Achtel.

It focusses on the experiences of the exiled children and their dispersal
throughout Africa, New Zealand, India and Mexico.

You can see excerpts of the book at
http://www.polishheritage.co.nz/PAHIATUA/START.HTM

Tulacze Dzieci - Exiled Children
Published by Fundacja ARCHIWUM FOTOGRAFICZNE TULACZY
Warszawa 1995 ISBN 83-77079-436-X

Regards,
Stefan Wisniowski

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#7137 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 5:40 am
Subject: Welcome Witold Szymanski from Wales skwisniowski
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Please welcome Witold Szymanski to the group. Our first member from Wales?

Witek, I have included some of your background as an introduction to the other members.
Did you get any other e-mail contacts we could connect with at the "Afrykan" reunion in Wroclaw?

And we do look forward to reading some of your memoirs if you can share them with us!

Best regards
Stefan Wisniowski

From: "Witold Szymanski" <WSS@...>

Hallo Stefan,

I got pleasantly surprised by your email.

Indeed, I am, like yourself, a solid rock of Polish stock - flesh, blood and
soul. Osadnika syn. Both, my "Lwowianka" wife and I (Wolyniak) went to the
"Afrykan" get together in Wroclaw, September gone. From there, we went to
the Shrine of Our Lady in Czestochowa to thank Her for all the graces
bestowed upon us during the troubled years; 10.02/1940, Swierdlowska Oblast,
1942, Tehran, Karachi, Mombassa, Nairobi, Masindi 1942-1948.

[...]

Yes, please count me in. I'd be delighted to join you in the Kresy-Siberia
Group. I could contribute to the Group with my memoirs. Our daughter,
Teresa, one of our three children, convinced me to write our life story.
That's why I wrote a book called "Human Traces", which needs editing and
revising, but I did publish some extracts in different papers and magazines.
I, also, write poetry, when I get inspiration and time. I'll gladly exchange
some of my stories with those from you and others.

Count me in.

Best wishes and regards, Witold Szymanski

Witek to those from the Kresy.

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#7138 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 8:50 am
Subject: Welcome Mary Skinner - film on WW2 stories of Polish women skwisniowski
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Please welcome Mary Skinner to the group.  Mary, you should visit the
Personal Testimonies section of our discussion website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kresy-Siberia/files/

Also, the paper there on Gendered Poles by LIsa Blenkinsop should be
instructive.

Any other suggestions from members for Mary's film?

Regards
Stefan Wisniowski

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> From: "Mary Skinner" <nycskinner@...>
> Greetings Stefan!
>
> My name is Mary Skinner and I live in New York City.  I am currently doing
> research on the experience of the Poles during World War II for a
> documentary film.  The objective of the film is to look at the historical
> events of the war within the context of personal stories of Polish women who
> survived the loss of their families, the German and Russian invasions,
> Occupation, deportation to labor and concentration camps in Germany and
> Russia, and later displacement and denial during the Cold War years.  I am
> looking for personal accounts, photos and documents that tell the story of
> life before, during and after the war for these women, many of whom were
> still children when the war began. I would like to be able to feature
> stories like those of my mother who lost her family in Warsaw and was sent
> to a German labor camp as well as those of women who were deported and
> imprisoned by the Russians.  I am grateful for the wealth of information
> here and any other advice and guidance the group may wish to offer, as well
> as referrals to any individuals who might feel comfortable being interviewed
> for the film.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mary Skinner
> New York City
> nycskinner@...

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#7139 From: "Helena Danielczuk" <helena52@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 8:51 am
Subject: Re: Looking for... hela52
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What is an amnesty certificate?  My father goes under the name Danielczuk
but I believe the name might be Danilczyk



Bye 4 now Hela.





>From: "Krystyna Freiburger" <krystynafreiburger@...>
>Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
>To: <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Looking for...
>Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:47:45 -0500
>
>Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Looking for...Thank you Stefan .....yes those
>certificates would be my father's and mom's cousin but what do I have to do
>to obtain them ???
>
>
>
>
>   Were your parents deported to the same place?  Did you already know that
>the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a
>Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact
>translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol
>province?  With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940?  It
>records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".
>
>   A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country,
>Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie
>Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162).  Perhaps a relative of
>your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on
>26.6.1911)?
>
>   May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them
>yet....
>
>   Stefan Wisniowski
>
>
>     From: "zembocin" <krystynafreiburger@...>
>     [...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me
>where that is or was in Russia.
>
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#7140 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 11:13 am
Subject: Re: Looking for... Danilczyk skwisniowski
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Helena,

The Hoover Institution, on the grounds of the Stanford University campus, archives the Polish "Ministerstwo Informacji i Dokumentacji" (MID) collection. This introduction to the collection by Maciej Siekierski describes the origin of these records:

"The MID was the main information and propaganda unit of the Polish Government in Exile. One of its units, the Research Section headed by Wiktor Sukiennicki was assigned the task of systematically reviewing and summarizing the testimonies of former Polish prisoners and deportees to Soviet Russia with a view to document the entry of the Red Army into Poland, the first weeks of Soviet occupation, the October 1939 �elections,� and the consequent sovietization of the occupied territories. Thousands of original Soviet camp release certificates, statements of survivors and detailed summaries of Soviet occupation compiled by the Research Section for every county of eastern Poland, make up about forty percent of the volume of the Ministry�s collection."

The nearly 13,500 certificates archived in the Hoover were issued by the NKVD after the Polish-Soviet agreement of July 1941, releasing Polish deportees from forced labor camps and other places of detention. They were turned in to the Polish authorities when the arrived at their posts.

There are also nearly 12,000 questionnaires ("ankiety"), statements and depositions of Polish deportees (as well as of some Polish prisoners of war) collected by the Bureau of Documents of the Polish Armed Forces (Referat Historyczny Polskich Sil Zbrojnych) after evacuation to the Middle East.

Regarding your family, there is a report from a Stefan Danilczyk, a forester from Kos�w Poleski (woj. Polesie). Also there are release certificates from a Bronislaw Danilczuk or Danilczyk (son of Wasil) born in 1912 in Ladzkie Szlacheckie, (woj. Stanislawowskie) and a Wiktor Danilczuk, (son of Feliks) born in 1920 in Sverdlovsk.

Any relations?

Stefan Wisniowski

From: "Helena Danielczuk" <helena52@...>

What is an amnesty certificate? My father goes under the name Danielczuk
but I believe the name might be Danilczyk

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#7141 From: Tomasz Wi�niewski <tomy@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 12:39 pm
Subject: Kolno pre 1939 kolodno_holiday
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Kolno pre 1939

I just added new abum

Kolno pre 1939

Look into

http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album60

For other photos look into

www.aforgottenodyssey.com/gallery/albums.php
"Alfabet Polski" - Poland Photos & Maps pre-1945

Tomek Wisniewski

Bialystoj

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#7142 From: "ladbrooke" <ladbrooke@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: Forgotten soldiers of 2nd Polish Corps? linderladbrooke
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Hi yourself. Glad you've a start on your searches. Two wonderfully helpful ladies work there [Margaret and Barbara]. If you explain, they'll go through their name-lists, they both speak Eng and Polish.

Where in Poland are you? Your English is better than mine, and I was born here!

Perhaps you can give me some advise? I'm trying to get a copy of my dad's Birth Cert. I know all the details, but the church records fr that year we're destroyed in the War. The Civil local office near his village won't send them, I have to go in person. There must be a 'central' place I must write to for. Althogh it is now Ukraine, it was Poland in 1914

----- Original Message -----

From: Razel

To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:04 AM

Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Forgotten soldiers of 2nd Polish Corps?

Hi Linder!

I don't live in UK but in Poland. I had some problems to contact with MOD but one of our K-S members sent their new address and I think it woun't be a problem this time. I know I have to send my request in special form and I have to prove my kinship. All is understandable. I have only one problem. Nobody in my family knows when my grandfather was really born- he was changing his birthday date to avoid compulsory service in Wehrmacht, and he changed it during the WWII few times, too. I wander if he was sure for himself when was his real birthday? I hope MOD won't reject my request when I'll write different date from that one in their record.

Cheers!

Gabriel
ladbrooke <ladbrooke@...> wrote:

Hi,

I'm Linder, from the K-S Group. Have you managed to contact MOD in UK yet? I've just come back from holiday and seen you're posting. If you're stuck, let me know and I'll givre you some tips. Are you in UK?

Linder

----- Original Message -----

From: Stefan Wisniowski

To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:53 PM

Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Forgotten soldiers of 2nd Polish Corps?

Gabriel

One day, the MOD may decide to go online. For now, to contact them you should phone them first. See details at http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/mainref.html#r4

Let us know what you find out!

Stefan Wisniowski

From: Razel <razelsmith@...>
Of course, my grandfather was in Anders Army. [...] What is standard procedure in this matter?
Pozdrawiam!

Gabriel Damaszk
Katowice, Polska

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#7143 From: Tom & Glenda Sajwaj <tesajwaj@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: Zdzienciol tesajwaj
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Irene,

The LDS library has fairly complete Catholic Church records for Zdzieciol and surrounding villages for 1866 to 1890.� These are found in the Slonim deanery. The marriage records are especially valuable, since they often give the parents of the bride and groom.� If you would like the film numbers, let me know.� The records are in handwritten Russian, unfortunately, including family names. My heart sank when I saw the first saw them.� They looked like a child's drawing of the ocean. But you can work around that and even translate a bit, including most family names, some villages, and dates, using an alphabet guide to 19th Century Russian and a Langenscheidt pocket Russian dictionary.� The indexes are incomplete, but the format for the records makes it easy to scan family names quickly, once you know what the family and village names look like in the Russian alphabet.� These records were a goldmine for me for 100+ relatives, and 2-3 generations of two extended families.

Excellent photos are available, courtesy of� Tomek Wisniewski, at www.aforgottenodyssey.com.

Excellent inexpensive maps from the 1930s are available from the Library of Congress.

Slownik Geograficzny Krolestwa Polskiego has entries, in Polish, for Zdzieciol and surrounding villages from the late 19th Century.� Also, Skorowidz Miejscowosci Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej has aggregated census data, in Polish and without individual names, from the early 1920s.� It breaks down population data by religion, ethnicity, and village.� Both of these sources are available from the LDS Library. The latter is easy to decipher with a Polish dictionary, while the former is tough for those not fluent in Polish.� A guide is available, however, from the Polish Genealogical Society of America (www.pgsa.org).

Hope this helps,

Tom Sajwaj

Irene Tomaszewski wrote:

Yes. Very much so.

Irene

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom & Glenda Sajwaj

To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:48 AM

Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Zdzienciol

Irene,

Are you still looking for info on Zdzieciol located in Grodno/Nowogrodek provinces?

Tom Sajwaj

Irene Tomaszewski wrote:

�

Does anyone have photos or other info on Zdzienciol (not sure of spelling). I believe it is quite close to Grodno.

�

Irene Tomaszewski

Montreal

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#7144 From: "Barb Kwietniowski" <barbkwie@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: Welcome Mary Skinner - film on WW2 stories of Polish women bkwietniowski
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Mary,
A good book from a woman's perspective is "Just Say a Hail Mary" The story
of Maria and Jedrzej Giertych by Barbara O'Driscoll ISBN 0953515400
Published by the author
175 Carlingford Road
London N.15 3ET
The author describes life before the war, survival during the war and
relocation afterwards in England. Much of this concerns itself with Maria's
experiences as she cared for the children and elderly women she was left
alone with, and her concern for the survival of various family members(over
600 pages)
Barb Kwietniowski

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Wisniowski" <swisniowski@...>
To: <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 3:50 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Welcome Mary Skinner - film on WW2 stories of
Polish women


> Please welcome Mary Skinner to the group.  Mary, you should visit the
> Personal Testimonies section of our discussion website at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kresy-Siberia/files/
>
> Also, the paper there on Gendered Poles by LIsa Blenkinsop should be
> instructive.
>
> Any other suggestions from members for Mary's film?
>
> Regards
> Stefan Wisniowski
>
> ----------
> > From: "Mary Skinner" <nycskinner@...>
> > Greetings Stefan!
> >
> > My name is Mary Skinner and I live in New York City.  I am currently
doing
> > research on the experience of the Poles during World War II for a
> > documentary film.  The objective of the film is to look at the
historical
> > events of the war within the context of personal stories of Polish women
who
> > survived the loss of their families, the German and Russian invasions,
> > Occupation, deportation to labor and concentration camps in Germany and
> > Russia, and later displacement and denial during the Cold War years.  I
am
> > looking for personal accounts, photos and documents that tell the story
of
> > life before, during and after the war for these women, many of whom were
> > still children when the war began. I would like to be able to feature
> > stories like those of my mother who lost her family in Warsaw and was
sent
> > to a German labor camp as well as those of women who were deported and
> > imprisoned by the Russians.  I am grateful for the wealth of information
> > here and any other advice and guidance the group may wish to offer, as
well
> > as referrals to any individuals who might feel comfortable being
interviewed
> > for the film.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Mary Skinner
> > New York City
> > nycskinner@...
>
>
>
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#7145 From: "Robert Peppelman" <bobandjoy@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 5:17 pm
Subject: Name:Wosko;Dziadura Location:Niedzwiada bobandjoy@...
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Hello,

I have found this group to be such a wonderful, supportive source! I so look forward to reading everyone's emails.

I have recently uncovered some of my father's records.

I understand I should contact the ministry for definitives, but is there anything I can learn from reading these? I have his army card - can I identify which branch he was in?

I also have his marriage certificate. I can not read all- but :Niedawrade- Krakow.

Are there any other clues I can look for on these documents?

I also have a copy of someone's birth certificate other than my father's - I think his sister's daughter. Perhaps the name on here can help some others?Dziadura, Maria 9/15/49

Our last name is Wosko.

Joy Wosko-Peppelman

USA

----- Original Message -----

From: ladbrooke

To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 11:38 AM

Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Forgotten soldiers of 2nd Polish Corps?

Hi yourself. Glad you've a start on your searches. Two wonderfully helpful ladies work there [Margaret and Barbara]. If you explain, they'll go through their name-lists, they both speak Eng and Polish.

Where in Poland are you? Your English is better than mine, and I was born here!

Perhaps you can give me some advise? I'm trying to get a copy of my dad's Birth Cert. I know all the details, but the church records fr that year we're destroyed in the War. The Civil local office near his village won't send them, I have to go in person. There must be a 'central' place I must write to for. Althogh it is now Ukraine, it was Poland in 1914

----- Original Message -----

From: Razel

To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:04 AM

Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Forgotten soldiers of 2nd Polish Corps?

Hi Linder!

I don't live in UK but in Poland. I had some problems to contact with MOD but one of our K-S members sent their new address and I think it woun't be a problem this time. I know I have to send my request in special form and I have to prove my kinship. All is understandable. I have only one problem. Nobody in my family knows when my grandfather was really born- he was changing his birthday date to avoid compulsory service in Wehrmacht, and he changed it during the WWII few times, too. I wander if he was sure for himself when was his real birthday? I hope MOD won't reject my request when I'll write different date from that one in their record.

Cheers!

Gabriel
ladbrooke <ladbrooke@...> wrote:

Hi,

I'm Linder, from the K-S Group. Have you managed to contact MOD in UK yet? I've just come back from holiday and seen you're posting. If you're stuck, let me know and I'll givre you some tips. Are you in UK?

Linder

----- Original Message -----

From: Stefan Wisniowski

To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:53 PM

Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Forgotten soldiers of 2nd Polish Corps?

Gabriel

One day, the MOD may decide to go online. For now, to contact them you should phone them first. See details at http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/mainref.html#r4

Let us know what you find out!

Stefan Wisniowski

From: Razel <razelsmith@...>
Of course, my grandfather was in Anders Army. [...] What is standard procedure in this matter?
Pozdrawiam!

Gabriel Damaszk
Katowice, Polska

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#7146 From: Ab4uz@...
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: Welcome Mary Skinner - film on WW2 stories of Polish women Ab4uz@...
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Hi Mary,

The book you are interested is Goodbye Tomorrow. It is a wealth of knowledge you will be interested. Let me know if you are interested. E-mail: Ab4uz@...

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#7147 From: "david Fritchley" <davidpaulfritch@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: Name:Wosko;Dziadura Location:Niedzwiada fritch66
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>From: "Robert  Peppelman" <bobandjoy@...>
>Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
>To: <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Name:Wosko;Dziadura Location:Niedzwiada
>Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:17:15 -0500
>
>Hello,
>
>I have found this group to be such a wonderful, supportive source! I so
>look forward to reading everyone's emails.
>
>I have recently uncovered some of my father's records.
>
>I understand I should contact the ministry for definitives, but is there
>anything I can learn from reading these? I have his army card - can I
>identify which branch he was in?
>
>I also have his marriage certificate. I can not read all- but :Niedawrade-
>Krakow.
>Are there any other clues I can look for on these documents?
>I also have a copy of someone's birth certificate other than my father's -
>I think his sister's daughter. Perhaps the name on here can help some
>others?Dziadura, Maria 9/15/49
>Our last name is Wosko.
>
>Joy Wosko-Peppelman
>USA
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: ladbrooke
>   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 11:38 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Forgotten soldiers of 2nd Polish Corps?
>
>
>   Hi yourself. Glad you've a start on your searches. Two wonderfully
>helpful ladies work there [Margaret and Barbara]. If you explain, they'll
>go through their name-lists, they both speak Eng and Polish.
>
>   Where in Poland are you? Your English is better than mine, and I was
>born here!
>
>   Perhaps you can give me some advise? I'm trying to get a copy of my
>dad's Birth Cert. I know all the details, but the church records fr that
>year we're destroyed in the War. The Civil local office near his village
>won't send them, I have to go in person. There must be a 'central' place I
>must write to for. Althogh it is now Ukraine, it was Poland in 1914
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Razel
>     To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
>     Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:04 AM
>     Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Forgotten soldiers of 2nd Polish Corps?
>
>
>     Hi Linder!
>     I don't live in UK but in Poland. I had some problems to contact with
>MOD but one of our K-S members sent their new address and I think it woun't
>be a problem this time. I know I have to send my request in special form
>and I have to prove my kinship. All is understandable. I have only one
>problem. Nobody in my family knows when my grandfather was really born- he
>was changing his birthday date to avoid compulsory service in Wehrmacht,
>and he changed it during the WWII few times, too. I wander if he was sure
>for himself when was his real birthday? I hope MOD won't reject my request
>when I'll write  different date from that one in their record.
>
>     Cheers!
>     Gabriel
>     ladbrooke <ladbrooke@...> wrote:
>       Hi,
>       I'm Linder, from the K-S Group. Have you managed to contact  MOD in
>UK yet? I've just come back from holiday and seen you're posting. If you're
>stuck, let me know and I'll givre you some tips. Are you in UK?
>       Linder
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Stefan Wisniowski
>         To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
>         Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:53 PM
>         Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Forgotten soldiers of 2nd Polish
>Corps?
>
>
>         Gabriel
>
>         One day, the MOD may decide to go online.  For now, to contact
>them you should phone them first.  See details at
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#7148 From: "Vantom" <vantom@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: British Post delays auntynellie
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This is not entirely true. There is post in and out of the UK! There are some post boxes sealed in the London area and some business mail is affected BUT there are talks on at the moment to try to reach a satisfactory conclusion. It DOES NOT take 4 - 6 weeks to clear backlogs. Please try to keep a sense of proportion about this, thanks. There is no need not to send mail to the MOD.

Thanks

Vanessa

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Date: 01 November 2003 11:14:15

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Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] British Post delays

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#7149 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Date: Mon Nov 3, 2003 1:00 am
Subject: Welcome Jalaine Madura skwisniowski
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Please welcome Jalaine Madura to the group.

Jalaine, thanks for the feedback. The website has been a group effort, and is especially a credit to our consecutive webmasters Steve Roy, Halina Szulakowska and Ron Bereznicki.

You can spot Wolpa on the map in Belarus at the following link (spelled VOUPA now).
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=53.3667&longitude=24.3667

Also look at http://www.belarusguide.com/cities/cities-voupa.html and http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/volpa/volpa-main.html

This will give you a start on where it is and surrounding towns and centres. If you need more info, let me know.

Regards
Stefan Wisniowski

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From: "Jalaine Madura" <jalaine_madura@...>

Dear Mr. Wisniowski:

The Forgotten Odyssey web site is excellent! I have only started studying it but am very impressed with how well it is put together and how comprehensive it is. This is very important for bringing the tragedy of this time into the public eye.

As I begin my research, may I ask one question: my grandparents' family was from Wolpa and I have located the jpg image in the album, but I am having difficulty determining the right province or geographic subdistrict for further research. Could you help, or direct me to the right place to ask?

Many thanks, and thank you again for this website and the great care you and others have obviously taken in preparing it.

Jalaine Madura

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