Hello John

I put forward a link to Amazon earlier this week, with about 10 books available, new and used.  Also Stefan mentioned Amazon, saying they had books available. Be careful as some book companies charge exorbitant prices like 80.00 for one book. Also, there is book that can be read online? I copied my post, hope this helps.

 

AMAZON http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAn-Army-Exile-Second-Polish%2Fdp%2F0898390435&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNGJPUyiDLOy2qabEe7KOm3xTZb88g&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

and

 

ABE http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CHcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abebooks.co.uk%2Fbook-search%2Ftitle%2Fan-army-in-exile%2Fauthor%2Fanders%2Fsortby%2F3%2Fpage-1%2F&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNEAYoWtI8xsNDI7eUV8B8UFnaC_ww&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

And also

 

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An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps

by W³adys³aw Anders

<image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png>5.00  Â·  rating details  Â·  5 ratings  Â·  2 reviews

Hardcover, 319 pages

Published May 30th 1981 by Battery Press (first published 1949)

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI

 

regards,

Lenarda, Australia

 

 

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Milligan
Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 5:27 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

Hi John,

 

UK Abe books has 2 copies at about £50 each. I can lend you my copy but the postage would be not much less than the cost of a copy of your own? 

 

Best wishes,

 

Basia (UK)

On 28 Feb 2013, at 15:12, John Halucha wrote:

 

 

Excellent information, Hania. Thanks.

I have not yet got my hands on An Army in Exile: can you tell us if Anders says much about the 8th Infantry Division from its formation in the Soviet Union to its dissolution in the Middle East? I am particularly interested in recruiting on March 30, 1942 and the date(s) of the Caspian Sea journey to Pahlevi.

Grateful regards,

John Halucha

Sault Ste Marie, Canada

 

---

From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:25:32 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

From Anders in Exile ...Page 92-94......Anders Returned to Kuybyshev December 5, 1941ââ≠¬Âœ.Sikorski caught a cold and couldnââ≠¬â≥¢t go to Buzuluk for a few days.. to tour Polish military centres.  At Totskoie and Tatistchev camps  ââ≠¬Âœ..some troops were already  clad in newly arrived British uniforms.  December 8^th, 1941 , US entry into war lifted some gloomy spirits for the Polish lot.  Soviets at this point were still insincere in their dealings with Polish army.  Movement south was delayed by every possible pretext by Soviets.

Temperatures dropped to 52 degrees and many men froze in tents and the transports with  those who  arrived to join the army from distant provinces  werenââ≠¬â≥¢t allowed to remain by the Russiansââ≠¬ÂœÃ¢â≠¬Âœ..who sent them further south, and rerouted them along the Amu-Daria for forced labour. Many of those men were never seen again. 

At the beginning of 1942 finally received a decision from soviets for the transfer of troops out.   

He doesnââ≠¬â≥¢t give a specific date on when they left.

My finds:

November 22, 1941, Polish Embassy in USSR advised Polish deportees to head south through Novosibirsk , where another Polish outpost was created. With this announcement a large exodus began from remote areas of USSR such as Arkhangelsk , Vorkuta , the Ural mountains, Siberia, Kolyma, Irkutsk , and Akmolinsk.

From other sources I foundââ≠¬ÂœIn February, 1942,  the army was moved further south, where climatic conditions were better, but contagious diseases were endemic.  Anders headquarters were now in Yangi Yul near Tahskent, where most units were located. Other parts of the army were in Samarkand, Shakhrisabz (Uzbekistan), Margilan (Tajikistan), Frunze, Dzhalal-Abad (Kirgizia), Ashkhabad (Turkmenia), Alma-Ata, Chimkent, Logovoi and Merke (Kazakhstan). 

 

hania

 

 

From: annafranklin85 <annafranklin@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:08:15 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book - another request.

 

I, also, would appreciate some information from "Army in Exile", please. Through my local inter-library loan program, I was able to obtain Anders book for two weeks - not enough time to finish it, and I can't get the book for another four months. I would like to know the date Anders pulled out of Buzuluk and the page number(s) where the information is found. Thanks for the help.

Anna Franklin (Canada).

 

 

 

Dear Kresy-Siberia group, I know this is not a Kresy-Siberia realated question,
so sorry about that. However, I am hoping to appeal to the historians on this
group, who most likely know the answer to this question. It is for my son's
project for his grade 2 class.

Is there a sport that began in Poland? If not, then what is the national sport?
Or, even what has been an important sport throughout history?

Thank you for any responses in advance.

Halina Jackowska

Group,

Anyone know what is going on with the museum? I am getting kresy-siberia.org
This account has been suspended.

Hosted by XXL-WEB Hosting

Thanks for any help, Carol Celinska Dove, USA

Halina,

I seem to think that a sport called "Ringo" was invented in Poland (you'll have
to google it).  The only other thing I know we all played at our local Polish
club was volleyball.

They only other sport I can think of involves wodka.

Rys
UK

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "halinajackowska" <halinajackowska@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Kresy-Siberia group, I know this is not a Kresy-Siberia realated
question, so sorry about that. However, I am hoping to appeal to the historians
on this group, who most likely know the answer to this question. It is for my
son's project for his grade 2 class.
>
> Is there a sport that began in Poland? If not, then what is the national
sport? Or, even what has been an important sport throughout history?
>
> Thank you for any responses in advance.
>
> Halina Jackowska
>

Hi Carol,
There is a slight problem with our museum link at the moment which we are aware
of and are working hard to get it back on line very soon.
Thanks for your patience and apologies for any inconvenience.
Best regards,
Eva Szegidewicz
Kresy-Siberia (UK)
Manchester

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Carol D" <stashaok@...> wrote:
>
> Group,
>
> Anyone know what is going on with the museum? I am getting kresy-siberia.org
> This account has been suspended.
>
> Hosted by XXL-WEB Hosting
>
> Thanks for any help, Carol Celinska Dove, USA
>

Thank you so much let me know if I can help. Scared me. Carol

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Eva" <eszegidewicz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Carol,
> There is a slight problem with our museum link at the moment which we are
aware of and are working hard to get it back on line very soon.
> Thanks for your patience and apologies for any inconvenience.
> Best regards,
> Eva Szegidewicz
> Kresy-Siberia (UK)
> Manchester
>
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Carol D" <stashaok@> wrote:
> >
> > Group,
> >
> > Anyone know what is going on with the museum? I am getting kresy-siberia.org
> > This account has been suspended.
> >
> > Hosted by XXL-WEB Hosting
> >
> > Thanks for any help, Carol Celinska Dove, USA
> >
>

The Kresy-Siberia Virtual Museum is back on line now at www.Kresy-Siberia.org
Best regards.
Eva Szegidewicz
Kresy-Siberia (UK)

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Carol D" <stashaok@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you so much let me know if I can help. Scared me. Carol
>
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Eva" <eszegidewicz@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Carol,
> > There is a slight problem with our museum link at the moment which we are
aware of and are working hard to get it back on line very soon.
> > Thanks for your patience and apologies for any inconvenience.
> > Best regards,
> > Eva Szegidewicz
> > Kresy-Siberia (UK)
> > Manchester
> >
> > --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Carol D" <stashaok@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Group,
> > >
> > > Anyone know what is going on with the museum? I am getting
kresy-siberia.org
> > > This account has been suspended.
> > >
> > > Hosted by XXL-WEB Hosting
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help, Carol Celinska Dove, USA
> > >
> >
>

a few photos from a great day! Many thanks to the organisers and everyone who
helped.
If anyone else has photos, please add them to the album.

pozdrowienia
Elzunia Gradosielska Olsson
back in Sweden


--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Krystyna Mew <krystynamew@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Helen for the mention.  I just wanted to add that I think that the
main thrill of the occasion, besides meeting other Kresy members, was actually
having the chance to talk to people who really knew very little about this part
of Polish history. It enabled us to reach a new audience which I personally feel
is a very important.  Introducing people to the Virtual Museum and encouraging
them to read some of the relevant books must help in spreading the word about
this still little known aspect of Polish and WWII history.
> Krystyna Mew
> France
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
> >To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:18 AM
> >Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] WDYTYA
> >
> >Dear Group
> >I would like to mention something  more about the people who helped  during
our stay at the WDYTYA Exhibition and  in particular about the presence of 
the author of "The Eagle Unbowed" Halik Kochanski  who was at our table for a
good few hours on the Friday.  At one time when we had literally a mass of
people  milling around ,there was  Halik selling  our books for us,
explaining who we were, handing out leaflets,  and taking money to put in the
box. Not only a brilliant author  but a lovely unassuming lady.
> >And then our own member Krystyna Mew, very talented,  in editing and
producing the  moving account of her father's experiences from his journals in
"Lost Between Worlds". She was there  all the way from France with her daughter
Nikki on  Friday, Saturday and Suday helping, answering questions etc.  We
were also fortunate in having with us  members Zosia and Jurek Biegus helping
out Friday and Saturday. Their lovely book " Polish Resettlement Camps in
England and Wales 1946-1969   attracted a lot of interest from visitors. It is
dedicated to " … all those who didn't live to see their homes and loved ones
in a free and independent  Poland"  It has  some really interesting
photographs and descriptions of the various camps and the people  who lived in
them proudly continuing  the Polish traditions, showing smiling children in
beautiful costumes. Congratulations to you both Zosia and Jurek.
> >  We had with us Martin Stepek  a great personality, capable of charming
the birds off the trees and it's been some time since I read such powerful but
deeply moving poetry. I hope this poetry reaches a wider audience for it is
worthy of standing beside any.  According to Neal Ascherson Martin's poem "For
There is Hope" is "at once a monument, a meditation, a prayer and an epic." 
> >
> >I was so happy to see  Iwona Krason on Thursday who helped us set up the
tables. Iwona joined the Kresy-Siberia Group at the Exhibition last year and
came back to help us this year. How nice is that ! Another wonderful table
companion  was Danusia Socha who was there at our busiest times and helped on
the last day. Also we had Elzunia Olsson looking very attractive in her Polish
costume and her husband John  over from Sweden on the Saturday.   It was good
to meet Alicja Christofides   also  there and helping on our busiest days.
Because I had to miss some of the Saturday afternoon session I may have missed 
some members.
> >Eva Szegidewicz our  UK Treasurer and  Director and Mirka Wojnar our UK
Director and Chairman made this event happen for us through their organisation
abilities   and sheer  hard work. Thank you both.
> >For me it was exhilarating from beginning to end and all being well,  next
year here we come!
> >Kind regards
> >Helen Bitner
> >Colchester UK 
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________________________________
> >* ALL MEMBERS - PLEASE PAY YOUR ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE & MAKE A DONATION:
http://tinyurl.com/ks-contribute
> >____________________________________________________________
> >
> >KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP & FOUNDATION
> >
> >"Research, Remembrance and Recognition of Polish citizens fighting for
freedom in the Eastern Borderlands and in Exile during World War 2."
> >
> >* Provide FEEDBACK to the Group's Moderator Committee with any concerns or
suggestions at Suggestions@...
> >
> >* To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail
> >  saying who you are and describing your interest in the group to:
> >  Kresy-Siberia-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >* To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to:
> >  Kresy-Siberia-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >_______________________________________________________________________
> >OUR WEBSITES
> >
> >* Discussion group        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kresy-Siberia/
> >* Virtual Museum          http://www.kresy-siberia.org/
> >* Facebook Page           http://www.facebook.com/KSF.FKS
> >* Wall of Names           http://www.kresy-siberia.org/WoN
> >* Hall of Memories        http://www.kresy-siberia.org/HoM
> >* Kresy property claims  http://www.kresy-claims.org
> >* Merchandise & Bookstore http://tinyurl.com/KS-Store
> >_______________________________________________________________________
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

sorry, forgot the link
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kresy-Siberia/photos/album/522655297/pic/list?orde\
r=ordinal



--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Elzunia/Elizabeth Gradosielska/Maczka"
<elzunia@...> wrote:
>
> a few photos from a great day! Many thanks to the organisers and everyone who
helped.
> If anyone else has photos, please add them to the album.
>
> pozdrowienia
> Elzunia Gradosielska Olsson
> back in Sweden
>
>
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Krystyna Mew <krystynamew@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Helen for the mention.  I just wanted to add that I think that the
main thrill of the occasion, besides meeting other Kresy members, was actually
having the chance to talk to people who really knew very little about this part
of Polish history. It enabled us to reach a new audience which I personally feel
is a very important.  Introducing people to the Virtual Museum and encouraging
them to read some of the relevant books must help in spreading the word about
this still little known aspect of Polish and WWII history.
> > Krystyna Mew
> > France
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@>
> > >To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:18 AM
> > >Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] WDYTYA
> > >
> > >Dear Group
> > >I would like to mention something  more about the people who helped 
during our stay at the WDYTYA Exhibition and  in particular about the presence
of  the author of "The Eagle Unbowed" Halik Kochanski  who was at our table
for a good few hours on the Friday.  At one time when we had literally a mass
of people  milling around ,there was  Halik selling  our books for us,
explaining who we were, handing out leaflets,  and taking money to put in the
box. Not only a brilliant author  but a lovely unassuming lady.
> > >And then our own member Krystyna Mew, very talented,  in editing and
producing the  moving account of her father's experiences from his journals in
"Lost Between Worlds". She was there  all the way from France with her daughter
Nikki on  Friday, Saturday and Suday helping, answering questions etc.  We
were also fortunate in having with us  members Zosia and Jurek Biegus helping
out Friday and Saturday. Their lovely book " Polish Resettlement Camps in
England and Wales 1946-1969   attracted a lot of interest from visitors. It is
dedicated to " … all those who didn't live to see their homes and loved ones
in a free and independent  Poland"  It has  some really interesting
photographs and descriptions of the various camps and the people  who lived in
them proudly continuing  the Polish traditions, showing smiling children in
beautiful costumes. Congratulations to you both Zosia and Jurek.
> > >  We had with us Martin Stepek  a great personality, capable of charming
the birds off the trees and it's been some time since I read such powerful but
deeply moving poetry. I hope this poetry reaches a wider audience for it is
worthy of standing beside any.  According to Neal Ascherson Martin's poem "For
There is Hope" is "at once a monument, a meditation, a prayer and an epic." 
> > >
> > >I was so happy to see  Iwona Krason on Thursday who helped us set up the
tables. Iwona joined the Kresy-Siberia Group at the Exhibition last year and
came back to help us this year. How nice is that ! Another wonderful table
companion  was Danusia Socha who was there at our busiest times and helped on
the last day. Also we had Elzunia Olsson looking very attractive in her Polish
costume and her husband John  over from Sweden on the Saturday.   It was good
to meet Alicja Christofides   also  there and helping on our busiest days.
Because I had to miss some of the Saturday afternoon session I may have missed 
some members.
> > >Eva Szegidewicz our  UK Treasurer and  Director and Mirka Wojnar our UK
Director and Chairman made this event happen for us through their organisation
abilities   and sheer  hard work. Thank you both.
> > >For me it was exhilarating from beginning to end and all being well,  next
year here we come!
> > >Kind regards
> > >Helen Bitner
> > >Colchester UK 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________________________________
> > >* ALL MEMBERS - PLEASE PAY YOUR ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE & MAKE A DONATION:
http://tinyurl.com/ks-contribute
> > >____________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP & FOUNDATION
> > >
> > >"Research, Remembrance and Recognition of Polish citizens fighting for
freedom in the Eastern Borderlands and in Exile during World War 2."
> > >
> > >* Provide FEEDBACK to the Group's Moderator Committee with any concerns or
suggestions at Suggestions@
> > >
> > >* To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail
> > >  saying who you are and describing your interest in the group to:
> > >  Kresy-Siberia-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >* To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to:
> > >  Kresy-Siberia-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________________________________
> > >OUR WEBSITES
> > >
> > >* Discussion group        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kresy-Siberia/
> > >* Virtual Museum          http://www.kresy-siberia.org/
> > >* Facebook Page           http://www.facebook.com/KSF.FKS
> > >* Wall of Names           http://www.kresy-siberia.org/WoN
> > >* Hall of Memories        http://www.kresy-siberia.org/HoM
> > >* Kresy property claims  http://www.kresy-claims.org
> > >* Merchandise & Bookstore http://tinyurl.com/KS-Store
> > >_______________________________________________________________________
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

 

Carol

The first two are Amazon and ABE books to be purchased and prices.

 

The last one is a Google Site, but I am not familiar with how this works. From a guess you put arrow on –“Go To Google Play Now” (Click) and this takes you into where you sign in and then you can download and read books through your ANDROID?

 

But also on the topic of the Google site, I was amazed of how many other books there are on RELATED TOPICS, such as Katyn and many others that I have not heard of with the  history of Eastern Borderlands, even from Group members, truly worth a look.

 

Warmest wishes

Lenarda, Australia

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Clements
Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 9:55 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

Which one can be read online please

Carol UK

Carol C H C

Sent from my iPad

On 28 Feb 2013, at 20:13, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:

 

Hello John

I put forward a link to Amazon earlier this week, with about 10 books available, new and used.  Also Stefan mentioned Amazon, saying they had books available. Be careful as some book companies charge exorbitant prices like 80.00 for one book. Also, there is book that can be read online? I copied my post, hope this helps.

 

AMAZON http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAn-Army-Exile-Second-Polish%2Fdp%2F0898390435&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNGJPUyiDLOy2qabEe7KOm3xTZb88g&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

and

 

ABE http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CHcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abebooks.co.uk%2Fbook-search%2Ftitle%2Fan-army-in-exile%2Fauthor%2Fanders%2Fsortby%2F3%2Fpage-1%2F&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNEAYoWtI8xsNDI7eUV8B8UFnaC_ww&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

And also

An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps

by W³adys³aw Anders

<image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png>5.00  Ã‚·  rating details  Ã‚·  5 ratings  Ã‚·  2 reviews

Hardcover, 319 pages

Published May 30th 1981 by Battery Press (first published 1949)

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI

 

regards,

Lenarda, Australia

 

 

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Milligan
Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 5:27 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

Hi John,

 

UK Abe books has 2 copies at about £50 each. I can lend you my copy but the postage would be not much less than the cost of a copy of your own? 

 

Best wishes,

 

Basia (UK)

On 28 Feb 2013, at 15:12, John Halucha wrote:

 

 

Excellent information, Hania. Thanks.

I have not yet got my hands on An Army in Exile: can you tell us if Anders says much about the 8th Infantry Division from its formation in the Soviet Union to its dissolution in the Middle East? I am particularly interested in recruiting on March 30, 1942 and the date(s) of the Caspian Sea journey to Pahlevi.

Grateful regards,

John Halucha

Sault Ste Marie, Canada

 

---

From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:25:32 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

From Anders in Exile ...Page 92-94......Anders Returned to Kuybyshev December 5, 1941ââ≠¬Âœ.Sikorski caught a cold and couldnââ≠¬â≥¢t go to Buzuluk for a few days.. to tour Polish military centres.  At Totskoie and Tatistchev camps  ââ≠¬Âœ..some troops were already  clad in newly arrived British uniforms.  December 8^th, 1941 , US entry into war lifted some gloomy spirits for the Polish lot.  Soviets at this point were still insincere in their dealings with Polish army.  Movement south was delayed by every possible pretext by Soviets.

Temperatures dropped to 52 degrees and many men froze in tents and the transports with  those who  arrived to join the army from distant provinces  werenââ≠¬â≥¢t allowed to remain by the Russiansââ≠¬ÂœÃ¢â≠¬Âœ..who sent them further south, and rerouted them along the Amu-Daria for forced labour. Many of those men were never seen again. 

At the beginning of 1942 finally received a decision from soviets for the transfer of troops out.   

He doesnââ≠¬â≥¢t give a specific date on when they left.

My finds:

November 22, 1941, Polish Embassy in USSR advised Polish deportees to head south through Novosibirsk , where another Polish outpost was created. With this announcement a large exodus began from remote areas of USSR such as Arkhangelsk , Vorkuta , the Ural mountains, Siberia, Kolyma, Irkutsk , and Akmolinsk.

From other sources I foundââ≠¬ÂœIn February, 1942,  the army was moved further south, where climatic conditions were better, but contagious diseases were endemic.  Anders headquarters were now in Yangi Yul near Tahskent, where most units were located. Other parts of the army were in Samarkand, Shakhrisabz (Uzbekistan), Margilan (Tajikistan), Frunze, Dzhalal-Abad (Kirgizia), Ashkhabad (Turkmenia), Alma-Ata, Chimkent, Logovoi and Merke (Kazakhstan). 

 

hania

 

 

From: annafranklin85 <annafranklin@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:08:15 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book - another request.

 

I, also, would appreciate some information from "Army in Exile", please. Through my local inter-library loan program, I was able to obtain Anders book for two weeks - not enough time to finish it, and I can't get the book for another four months. I would like to know the date Anders pulled out of Buzuluk and the page number(s) where the information is found. Thanks for the help.

Anna Franklin (Canada).

 

 

 

This book doesn't seem to be available on Google Play, the only information on
this site is the name of the book, the author, date of publication and a couple
of short reviews.

Frances

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:
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> Carol,
>
> Go inside the link below and once inside look for left margin, beside book
displayed, you click on any of these symbols or writing and it will take you to
SIGN IN, after this you will need to join, please read directions below.
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> An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps
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> (You need to enter this link first) -    
<http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0\
CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.ht\
ml%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c\
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http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0C\
FYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.htm\
l%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2\
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>   (click on above link to get you in �" then look for �" Go To Google Play
Now �"  purple colour - you will see symbols above, click on computer screen
symbol or any other symbol)
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>
> Then you will need to open Google account, which I did, at no cost unless I
purchase a read on-line book or find one for FREE.  this is a good thing as they
have books for sale, on line to read, for little cost or free if you can
understand how to navigate the site,  but after opening my account and trying to
navigate, got completely lost and couldn’t even find a doorknob, to open
anything, even to check the cost.  It seems, at my guess, that if you cannot
open, they do not hold book for reading but will direct you to store for
purchase.
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>
>
> Realistically, with computer crashes etc. nothing replaces the hard copy, held
in hand and by purchasing from Amazon, available at discount when going through
Kresy-Siberia Group, which contributes to the running costs of Kresy-Siberia
Group.
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> Sorry I cannot help further, perhaps someone more knowledgeable can assist as
my IT skills are not great.
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> Regards,
>
> Lenarda, Australia
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> From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Carol Clements
> Sent: Saturday, 02 March, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
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> The link has some strange characters and will not work for me. Please can you
check it, i am interested to read this
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> Carol uk
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> Carol C H C
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On 1 Mar 2013, at 21:48, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:
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> Carol
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> The first two are Amazon and ABE books to be purchased and prices.
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> The last one is a Google Site, but I am not familiar with how this works. From
a guess you put arrow on –�"Go To Google Play Now” (Click) and
this takes you into where you sign in and then you can download and read books
through your ANDROID?
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> But also on the topic of the Google site, I was amazed of how many other books
there are on RELATED TOPICS, such as Katyn and many others that I have not heard
of with the  history of Eastern Borderlands, even from Group members, truly
worth a look.
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> Warmest wishes
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> Lenarda, Australia
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> From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Carol Clements
> Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 9:55 PM
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
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> Which one can be read online please
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> Carol UK
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> Carol C H C
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On 28 Feb 2013, at 20:13, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:
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> Hello John
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> I put forward a link to Amazon earlier this week, with about 10 books
available, new and used.  Also Stefan mentioned Amazon, saying they had
books available. Be careful as some book companies charge exorbitant prices like
80.00 for one book. Also, there is book that can be read online? I copied my
post, hope this helps.
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> AMAZON http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t
<http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEAQFjAB\
&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAn-Army-Exile-Second-Polish%2Fdp%2F0898390435\
&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNGJPUyiDLOy2qabEe7KOm3xTZb88g&bvm=bv.4296557\
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> ABE http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t
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> And also
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> An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps
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> by W³adys³aw Anders
<http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3372899.W_adys_aw_Anders>
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> <image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png>5.00 
·  rating details
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ratings 
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·  2 reviews 
<http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/501330.An_Army_in_Exile#other_reviews>
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> Hardcover, 319 pages
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> Published May 30th 1981 by Battery Press (first published 1949)
>
> http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t
<http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0\
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&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.go\
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LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI
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> regards,
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> Lenarda, Australia
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>

Halina
I believe the National sport of Poland is soccar/football depending where you
live.  Poland usually is represented in the World Cup.
Danuta
Western Australia

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "halinajackowska" <halinajackowska@...>
wrote:
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> Dear Kresy-Siberia group, I know this is not a Kresy-Siberia realated
question, so sorry about that. However, I am hoping to appeal to the historians
on this group, who most likely know the answer to this question. It is for my
son's project for his grade 2 class.
>
> Is there a sport that began in Poland? If not, then what is the national
sport? Or, even what has been an important sport throughout history?
>
> Thank you for any responses in advance.
>
> Halina Jackowska
>

----- Original Message ----

Hi Everybody,

I was always under the impression that the Allies paid for the arming of the Polish Forces fighting with the Allies during WW2 . Not so.....

My wife Bozenka came across this gem while reading the book “Pamieci Lotnikow Polskich 1918 – 1945” by Jerzy Pawlak. According to the author at the end of WW2 the british government submitted a bill to the Polish Government for the cost of outfitting and maintaining the the Polish squadrons flying as part of the Royal Air Force. The privilege of defending Great Britain and sustaining heavy losses in the process cost us dearly, £107,650,000 to be exact. If I am not mistaken, using the “Historical UK Inflation Tables”, see the link above, this comes to £3,875,400,000 or close to  £3.9 billion in 2012 pounds.

This sum is so high that I am starting to think that it might include the arming of all the Polish Forces fighting with the Allies. That sum was paid by the Polish Government. It was deducted from the gold deposited by the Polish Government in Canada for safe keeping during the war.

This really adds injury to insult by our great so called “friends and allies”, the Brits.

All the best

Wacek Jurkiewicz

Yes, I have heard this from my mum, just recently. Polish money paid for Anders
army.
Also, a small amount was deducted from the soldiers' pay to cover costs for the
civilians.

Elzunia Gradosielska Olsson
Sweden


--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Stefan Wisniowski <stefan.wisniowski@...>
wrote:
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> Thanks to Joseph Aston for passing on this post from Mr Wacek Jurkiewicz.
>
> Does anyone have any information about by whom and how the Polish WW2 war
effort in the West was paid?
>
> Best regards
> Stefan Wisniowski
> Sydney Australia
>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
>
> >> Hi Everybody,
>
> >> I was always under the impression that the Allies paid for the arming of
the Polish Forces fighting with the Allies during WW2 . Not so.....
>
> >> My wife Bozenka came across this gem while reading the book “Pamieci
Lotnikow Polskich 1918 �" 1945” by Jerzy Pawlak. According to the author at
the end of WW2 the british government submitted a bill to the Polish Government
for the cost of outfitting and maintaining the the Polish squadrons flying as
part of the Royal Air Force. The privilege of defending Great Britain and
sustaining heavy losses in the process cost us dearly, £107,650,000 to be
exact. If I am not mistaken, using the “Historical UK Inflation Tables”, see
the link above, this comes to £3,875,400,000 or close to  £3.9 billion in 2012
pounds.
>
> >> This sum is so high that I am starting to think that it might include the
arming of all the Polish Forces fighting with the Allies. That sum was paid by
the Polish Government. It was deducted from the gold deposited by the Polish
Government in Canada for safe keeping during the war.
> >> This really adds injury to insult by our great so called “friends and
allies”, the Brits.
>
> >> All the best
> >> Wacek Jurkiewicz
> >
>