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#55064 From: Carol Clements <craftyccc@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 10:54 am
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
caz2ukuk
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Which one can be read online please
Carol UK

Carol C H C
Sent from my iPad

On 28 Feb 2013, at 20:13, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:

 

Hello John

I put forward a link to Amazon earlier this week, with about 10 books available, new and used.  Also Stefan mentioned Amazon, saying they had books available. Be careful as some book companies charge exorbitant prices like 80.00 for one book. Also, there is book that can be read online? I copied my post, hope this helps.

 

AMAZON http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAn-Army-Exile-Second-Polish%2Fdp%2F0898390435&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNGJPUyiDLOy2qabEe7KOm3xTZb88g&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

and

 

ABE http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CHcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abebooks.co.uk%2Fbook-search%2Ftitle%2Fan-army-in-exile%2Fauthor%2Fanders%2Fsortby%2F3%2Fpage-1%2F&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNEAYoWtI8xsNDI7eUV8B8UFnaC_ww&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

And also

 

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An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps

by W³adys³aw Anders

<image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png>5.00  Â·  rating details  Â·  5 ratings  Â·  2 reviews

Hardcover, 319 pages

Published May 30th 1981 by Battery Press (first published 1949)

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI

 

regards,

Lenarda, Australia

 

 

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Milligan
Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 5:27 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

Hi John,

 

UK Abe books has 2 copies at about £50 each. I can lend you my copy but the postage would be not much less than the cost of a copy of your own? 

 

Best wishes,

 

Basia (UK)

On 28 Feb 2013, at 15:12, John Halucha wrote:



 

 

Excellent information, Hania. Thanks.

I have not yet got my hands on An Army in Exile: can you tell us if Anders says much about the 8th Infantry Division from its formation in the Soviet Union to its dissolution in the Middle East? I am particularly interested in recruiting on March 30, 1942 and the date(s) of the Caspian Sea journey to Pahlevi.

Grateful regards,

John Halucha

Sault Ste Marie, Canada

 


From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:25:32 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

From Anders in Exile ...Page 92-94......Anders Returned to Kuybyshev December 5, 1941ââ≠¬Âœ.Sikorski caught a cold and couldnââ≠¬â≥¢t go to Buzuluk for a few days.. to tour Polish military centres.  At Totskoie and Tatistchev camps  ââ≠¬Âœ..some troops were already  clad in newly arrived British uniforms.  December 8th, 1941 , US entry into war lifted some gloomy spirits for the Polish lot.  Soviets at this point were still insincere in their dealings with Polish army.  Movement south was delayed by every possible pretext by Soviets.

Temperatures dropped to 52 degrees and many men froze in tents and the transports with  those who  arrived to join the army from distant provinces  werenââ≠¬â≥¢t allowed to remain by the Russiansââ≠¬ÂœÃ¢â≠¬Âœ..who sent them further south, and rerouted them along the Amu-Daria for forced labour. Many of those men were never seen again. 

At the beginning of 1942 finally received a decision from soviets for the transfer of troops out.   

He doesnââ≠¬â≥¢t give a specific date on when they left.

My finds:

November 22, 1941, Polish Embassy in USSR advised Polish deportees to head south through Novosibirsk , where another Polish outpost was created. With this announcement a large exodus began from remote areas of USSR such as Arkhangelsk , Vorkuta , the Ural mountains, Siberia, Kolyma, Irkutsk , and Akmolinsk.

From other sources I foundââ≠¬ÂœIn February, 1942,  the army was moved further south, where climatic conditions were better, but contagious diseases were endemic.  Anders headquarters were now in Yangi Yul near Tahskent, where most units were located. Other parts of the army were in Samarkand, Shakhrisabz (Uzbekistan), Margilan (Tajikistan), Frunze, Dzhalal-Abad (Kirgizia), Ashkhabad (Turkmenia), Alma-Ata, Chimkent, Logovoi and Merke (Kazakhstan). 

 

hania

 

 

From: annafranklin85 <annafranklin@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:08:15 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book - another request.

 

I, also, would appreciate some information from "Army in Exile", please. Through my local inter-library loan program, I was able to obtain Anders book for two weeks - not enough time to finish it, and I can't get the book for another four months. I would like to know the date Anders pulled out of Buzuluk and the page number(s) where the information is found. Thanks for the help.

Anna Franklin (Canada).

 

 

 


#55065 From: "halinajackowska" <halinajackowska@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 1:12 pm
Subject: sports
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Dear Kresy-Siberia group, I know this is not a Kresy-Siberia realated question,
so sorry about that. However, I am hoping to appeal to the historians on this
group, who most likely know the answer to this question. It is for my son's
project for his grade 2 class.

Is there a sport that began in Poland? If not, then what is the national sport?
Or, even what has been an important sport throughout history?

Thank you for any responses in advance.

Halina Jackowska

#55066 From: "Carol D" <stashaok@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 2:49 pm
Subject: Museum link
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Group,

Anyone know what is going on with the museum? I am getting kresy-siberia.org
This account has been suspended.

Hosted by XXL-WEB Hosting

Thanks for any help, Carol Celinska Dove, USA

#55067 From: "ryszardsys" <ryszardsys@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: sports
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Halina,

I seem to think that a sport called "Ringo" was invented in Poland (you'll have
to google it).  The only other thing I know we all played at our local Polish
club was volleyball.

They only other sport I can think of involves wodka.

Rys
UK

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "halinajackowska" <halinajackowska@...>
wrote:
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> Dear Kresy-Siberia group, I know this is not a Kresy-Siberia realated
question, so sorry about that. However, I am hoping to appeal to the historians
on this group, who most likely know the answer to this question. It is for my
son's project for his grade 2 class.
>
> Is there a sport that began in Poland? If not, then what is the national
sport? Or, even what has been an important sport throughout history?
>
> Thank you for any responses in advance.
>
> Halina Jackowska
>

#55068 From: Kris Fenwick <kbfenwick@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 2:56 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: My Family
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Hi Danuta,

Thanks for the suggestion. 

Kris
Toronto, Canada

--- On Thu, 2/28/13, danutakelly <cradia@...> wrote:

From: danutakelly <cradia@...>
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: My Family
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 8:44 PM

 

Kris
I would write to the Consulate in Canada requesting ANY information they may have on your family as Polish Refugees from WW2 who ended up in DPC in Africa. Give a brief outline of what you believe happened in the DPC in Masindi. They will have to follow it up especially if it is in letter form. It is worth a try
Good luck!!!
Danuta
Western Australia
Klysz/Wolinska

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Kris Fenwick wrote:
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> Hi Danuta,Â
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> Best wishes,
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> Toronto, Canada
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> --- On Wed, 2/27/13, danutakelly wrote:
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> From: danutakelly
> Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: My Family
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 8:18 PM
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> You could try the British Consulate as I believe that the Displaced Peoples Camps in Africa were under British Command. The Hospital in Masindi should have had records. Just another avenue to try.
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> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Kris Fenwick wrote:
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> > I am a new member of the group and looking forward to meeting you. Here is what little information I know about my grandparents on my mother's side. I'll start with my grandfather. His name was Franciszek Niebieszczański and he was born c.1900 may be in Plotycz(a), Tarnopol, Austria/Poland. At any rate, he lived in Plotycz with my grandmother, Anna. They had 2 children, my mother and my uncle. Franciszek had 2 sisters and 1 or 2 brothers. One sister, Marianna or Maria lived near him. The other sister, first name unknown, a little further away. I don't know the married names of either sister. I do not where his brothers or his parents lived or where they were born.
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> > In 1942, Anna and the 2 children made the long trek from Siberia through many countries to the Polish resettlements camp in Masindi (today Nyabycya) Uganda. After being in Masindi for a few months, Anna became ill with a tropical contagious disease and admitted to hospital. No one ever saw her again. I would like to know what happened to her. There was no funeral or memorial service. After the war, the International Red Cross could not find any trace of her. After the war, Franciszek settled in the UK. He died in 1962 in London.Â
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#55069 From: "Eva" <eszegidewicz@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: Museum link
eszegidewicz
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Hi Carol,
There is a slight problem with our museum link at the moment which we are aware
of and are working hard to get it back on line very soon.
Thanks for your patience and apologies for any inconvenience.
Best regards,
Eva Szegidewicz
Kresy-Siberia (UK)
Manchester

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Carol D" <stashaok@...> wrote:
>
> Group,
>
> Anyone know what is going on with the museum? I am getting kresy-siberia.org
> This account has been suspended.
>
> Hosted by XXL-WEB Hosting
>
> Thanks for any help, Carol Celinska Dove, USA
>

#55070 From: "Carol D" <stashaok@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: Museum link
stashaok
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Thank you so much let me know if I can help. Scared me. Carol

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Eva" <eszegidewicz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Carol,
> There is a slight problem with our museum link at the moment which we are
aware of and are working hard to get it back on line very soon.
> Thanks for your patience and apologies for any inconvenience.
> Best regards,
> Eva Szegidewicz
> Kresy-Siberia (UK)
> Manchester
>
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Carol D" <stashaok@> wrote:
> >
> > Group,
> >
> > Anyone know what is going on with the museum? I am getting kresy-siberia.org
> > This account has been suspended.
> >
> > Hosted by XXL-WEB Hosting
> >
> > Thanks for any help, Carol Celinska Dove, USA
> >
>

#55071 From: John Halucha <john.halucha@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
john.halucha
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That's very kind, Hania. Thank you.
Thank you also Basia for the sweet notion of lending me your copy - but yes, I will be getting my own copy whose margins I can gently mark in light pencil for ease of taking notes.
And Lenarda, for repeating your post with the links. Like Carol, I would love it if you can answer your own question about whether it can be read online in the meantime.
Another example of what makes this forum exquisite as Lenarda often reminds us - in deeds as well as words.
John Halucha
Sault Ste Marie, Canada


From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:34:17 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 
Will check later  for you...
 
hania
 
From: John Halucha <john.halucha@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
 
Excellent information, Hania. Thanks.
I have not yet got my hands on An Army in Exile: can you tell us if Anders says much about the 8th Infantry Division from its formation in the Soviet Union to its dissolution in the Middle East? I am particularly interested in recruiting on March 30, 1942 and the date(s) of the Caspian Sea journey to Pahlevi.
Grateful regards,
John Halucha
Sault Ste Marie, Canada


#55072 From: ed Bator <edijadzia@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] sports
edijadzia
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Dear Halina  (my sister had this name also).
 I just turned 80 and can recall pre-war years in Poland.  Sports were very popular and organized such as socker (football), boxing, kajaking, valeyball, basketball and in a small measure "palant" which is similar to American Baseball. 
Other games children played outside on a street or yards such as hide and seek, berek (tag), dwa ognie: two teams, throwing a ball from a base to a teammate through oposing team field, trying to hit oposing player and eliminating him.
Another, not so popular was "dupniak" which was not well approved by the grownups.  Selected player had to bend over the chair or something similar, close his eyes and be slapped on his but by someone.  He had to guess who slapped him or go on again till guessed right.
Caps and robers, Indians, wars and many others "unregulated" games were products of kids getting together and killing time.
Those were a teams or groups games.  Individuals had their own preferences and ideas. 
 
Good Luck with this, hope it helps.
 
Ed (s.j.) NC USA 
 
 
From: halinajackowska <halinajackowska@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 8:12 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] sports
 
Dear Kresy-Siberia group, I know this is not a Kresy-Siberia realated question, so sorry about that. However, I am hoping to appeal to the historians on this group, who most likely know the answer to this question. It is for my son's project for his grade 2 class.

Is there a sport that began in Poland? If not, then what is the national sport? Or, even what has been an important sport throughout history?

Thank you for any responses in advance.

Halina Jackowska


#55073 From: "Eva" <eszegidewicz@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: Museum link
eszegidewicz
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The Kresy-Siberia Virtual Museum is back on line now at www.Kresy-Siberia.org
Best regards.
Eva Szegidewicz
Kresy-Siberia (UK)

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Carol D" <stashaok@...> wrote:
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> Thank you so much let me know if I can help. Scared me. Carol
>
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Eva" <eszegidewicz@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Carol,
> > There is a slight problem with our museum link at the moment which we are
aware of and are working hard to get it back on line very soon.
> > Thanks for your patience and apologies for any inconvenience.
> > Best regards,
> > Eva Szegidewicz
> > Kresy-Siberia (UK)
> > Manchester
> >
> > --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Carol D" <stashaok@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Group,
> > >
> > > Anyone know what is going on with the museum? I am getting
kresy-siberia.org
> > > This account has been suspended.
> > >
> > > Hosted by XXL-WEB Hosting
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help, Carol Celinska Dove, USA
> > >
> >
>

#55074 From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:48 pm
Subject: Buzuluk and Deportation stats...
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I'm not sure if this has been posted before with deportation Stats when and where..I found it intersting.
 
 
 
 
Also some neat drawings of forest work in this story .....in a area called Maryskaya or Madary.....in one deportation area....with some Buzuluk recount. ( In Polish)
 
 
hania
 

#55075 From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Buzuluk and Deportation stats...
kazameena
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Sorry,  all files are in English...not Polish.
 
hania

From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:48:44 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Buzuluk and Deportation stats...
 
I'm not sure if this has been posted before with deportation Stats when and where..I found it intersting.
 
 
 
 
Also some neat drawings of forest work in this story .....in a area called Maryskaya or Madary.....in one deportation area....with some Buzuluk recount. ( In Polish)
 
 
hania
 

#55076 From: "Elzunia/Elizabeth Gradosielska/Maczka" <elzunia@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 8:50 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] WDYTYA
elzuniao
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a few photos from a great day! Many thanks to the organisers and everyone who
helped.
If anyone else has photos, please add them to the album.

pozdrowienia
Elzunia Gradosielska Olsson
back in Sweden


--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Krystyna Mew <krystynamew@...> wrote:
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> Thanks Helen for the mention.  I just wanted to add that I think that the
main thrill of the occasion, besides meeting other Kresy members, was actually
having the chance to talk to people who really knew very little about this part
of Polish history. It enabled us to reach a new audience which I personally feel
is a very important.  Introducing people to the Virtual Museum and encouraging
them to read some of the relevant books must help in spreading the word about
this still little known aspect of Polish and WWII history.
> Krystyna Mew
> France
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> > From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
> >To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:18 AM
> >Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] WDYTYA
> >
> >Dear Group
> >I would like to mention something  more about the people who helped  during
our stay at the WDYTYA Exhibition and  in particular about the presence of 
the author of "The Eagle Unbowed" Halik Kochanski  who was at our table for a
good few hours on the Friday.  At one time when we had literally a mass of
people  milling around ,there was  Halik selling  our books for us,
explaining who we were, handing out leaflets,  and taking money to put in the
box. Not only a brilliant author  but a lovely unassuming lady.
> >And then our own member Krystyna Mew, very talented,  in editing and
producing the  moving account of her father's experiences from his journals in
"Lost Between Worlds". She was there  all the way from France with her daughter
Nikki on  Friday, Saturday and Suday helping, answering questions etc.  We
were also fortunate in having with us  members Zosia and Jurek Biegus helping
out Friday and Saturday. Their lovely book " Polish Resettlement Camps in
England and Wales 1946-1969   attracted a lot of interest from visitors. It is
dedicated to " … all those who didn't live to see their homes and loved ones
in a free and independent  Poland"  It has  some really interesting
photographs and descriptions of the various camps and the people  who lived in
them proudly continuing  the Polish traditions, showing smiling children in
beautiful costumes. Congratulations to you both Zosia and Jurek.
> >  We had with us Martin Stepek  a great personality, capable of charming
the birds off the trees and it's been some time since I read such powerful but
deeply moving poetry. I hope this poetry reaches a wider audience for it is
worthy of standing beside any.  According to Neal Ascherson Martin's poem "For
There is Hope" is "at once a monument, a meditation, a prayer and an epic." 
> >
> >I was so happy to see  Iwona Krason on Thursday who helped us set up the
tables. Iwona joined the Kresy-Siberia Group at the Exhibition last year and
came back to help us this year. How nice is that ! Another wonderful table
companion  was Danusia Socha who was there at our busiest times and helped on
the last day. Also we had Elzunia Olsson looking very attractive in her Polish
costume and her husband John  over from Sweden on the Saturday.   It was good
to meet Alicja Christofides   also  there and helping on our busiest days.
Because I had to miss some of the Saturday afternoon session I may have missed 
some members.
> >Eva Szegidewicz our  UK Treasurer and  Director and Mirka Wojnar our UK
Director and Chairman made this event happen for us through their organisation
abilities   and sheer  hard work. Thank you both.
> >For me it was exhilarating from beginning to end and all being well,  next
year here we come!
> >Kind regards
> >Helen Bitner
> >Colchester UK 
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#55077 From: "Elzunia/Elizabeth Gradosielska/Maczka" <elzunia@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 8:52 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] WDYTYA
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sorry, forgot the link
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--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Elzunia/Elizabeth Gradosielska/Maczka"
<elzunia@...> wrote:
>
> a few photos from a great day! Many thanks to the organisers and everyone who
helped.
> If anyone else has photos, please add them to the album.
>
> pozdrowienia
> Elzunia Gradosielska Olsson
> back in Sweden
>
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> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Krystyna Mew <krystynamew@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Helen for the mention.  I just wanted to add that I think that the
main thrill of the occasion, besides meeting other Kresy members, was actually
having the chance to talk to people who really knew very little about this part
of Polish history. It enabled us to reach a new audience which I personally feel
is a very important.  Introducing people to the Virtual Museum and encouraging
them to read some of the relevant books must help in spreading the word about
this still little known aspect of Polish and WWII history.
> > Krystyna Mew
> > France
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> > >To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:18 AM
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> > >
> > >Dear Group
> > >I would like to mention something  more about the people who helped 
during our stay at the WDYTYA Exhibition and  in particular about the presence
of  the author of "The Eagle Unbowed" Halik Kochanski  who was at our table
for a good few hours on the Friday.  At one time when we had literally a mass
of people  milling around ,there was  Halik selling  our books for us,
explaining who we were, handing out leaflets,  and taking money to put in the
box. Not only a brilliant author  but a lovely unassuming lady.
> > >And then our own member Krystyna Mew, very talented,  in editing and
producing the  moving account of her father's experiences from his journals in
"Lost Between Worlds". She was there  all the way from France with her daughter
Nikki on  Friday, Saturday and Suday helping, answering questions etc.  We
were also fortunate in having with us  members Zosia and Jurek Biegus helping
out Friday and Saturday. Their lovely book " Polish Resettlement Camps in
England and Wales 1946-1969   attracted a lot of interest from visitors. It is
dedicated to " … all those who didn't live to see their homes and loved ones
in a free and independent  Poland"  It has  some really interesting
photographs and descriptions of the various camps and the people  who lived in
them proudly continuing  the Polish traditions, showing smiling children in
beautiful costumes. Congratulations to you both Zosia and Jurek.
> > >  We had with us Martin Stepek  a great personality, capable of charming
the birds off the trees and it's been some time since I read such powerful but
deeply moving poetry. I hope this poetry reaches a wider audience for it is
worthy of standing beside any.  According to Neal Ascherson Martin's poem "For
There is Hope" is "at once a monument, a meditation, a prayer and an epic." 
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> > >I was so happy to see  Iwona Krason on Thursday who helped us set up the
tables. Iwona joined the Kresy-Siberia Group at the Exhibition last year and
came back to help us this year. How nice is that ! Another wonderful table
companion  was Danusia Socha who was there at our busiest times and helped on
the last day. Also we had Elzunia Olsson looking very attractive in her Polish
costume and her husband John  over from Sweden on the Saturday.   It was good
to meet Alicja Christofides   also  there and helping on our busiest days.
Because I had to miss some of the Saturday afternoon session I may have missed 
some members.
> > >Eva Szegidewicz our  UK Treasurer and  Director and Mirka Wojnar our UK
Director and Chairman made this event happen for us through their organisation
abilities   and sheer  hard work. Thank you both.
> > >For me it was exhilarating from beginning to end and all being well,  next
year here we come!
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#55078 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 9:48 pm
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
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Carol

The first two are Amazon and ABE books to be purchased and prices.

 

The last one is a Google Site, but I am not familiar with how this works. From a guess you put arrow on –“Go To Google Play Now” (Click) and this takes you into where you sign in and then you can download and read books through your ANDROID?

 

But also on the topic of the Google site, I was amazed of how many other books there are on RELATED TOPICS, such as Katyn and many others that I have not heard of with the  history of Eastern Borderlands, even from Group members, truly worth a look.

 

Warmest wishes

Lenarda, Australia

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Clements
Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 9:55 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

Which one can be read online please

Carol UK

Carol C H C

Sent from my iPad


On 28 Feb 2013, at 20:13, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:

 

Hello John

I put forward a link to Amazon earlier this week, with about 10 books available, new and used.  Also Stefan mentioned Amazon, saying they had books available. Be careful as some book companies charge exorbitant prices like 80.00 for one book. Also, there is book that can be read online? I copied my post, hope this helps.

 

AMAZON http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAn-Army-Exile-Second-Polish%2Fdp%2F0898390435&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNGJPUyiDLOy2qabEe7KOm3xTZb88g&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

and

 

ABE http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CHcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abebooks.co.uk%2Fbook-search%2Ftitle%2Fan-army-in-exile%2Fauthor%2Fanders%2Fsortby%2F3%2Fpage-1%2F&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNEAYoWtI8xsNDI7eUV8B8UFnaC_ww&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

And also

An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps

by W³adys³aw Anders

<image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png>5.00  Â·  rating details  Â·  5 ratings  Â·  2 reviews

Hardcover, 319 pages

Published May 30th 1981 by Battery Press (first published 1949)

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI

 

regards,

Lenarda, Australia

 

 

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Milligan
Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 5:27 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

Hi John,

 

UK Abe books has 2 copies at about £50 each. I can lend you my copy but the postage would be not much less than the cost of a copy of your own? 

 

Best wishes,

 

Basia (UK)

On 28 Feb 2013, at 15:12, John Halucha wrote:




 

 

Excellent information, Hania. Thanks.

I have not yet got my hands on An Army in Exile: can you tell us if Anders says much about the 8th Infantry Division from its formation in the Soviet Union to its dissolution in the Middle East? I am particularly interested in recruiting on March 30, 1942 and the date(s) of the Caspian Sea journey to Pahlevi.

Grateful regards,

John Halucha

Sault Ste Marie, Canada

 


From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:25:32 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

From Anders in Exile ...Page 92-94......Anders Returned to Kuybyshev December 5, 1941ââ≠¬Âœ.Sikorski caught a cold and couldnââ≠¬â≥¢t go to Buzuluk for a few days.. to tour Polish military centres.  At Totskoie and Tatistchev camps  ââ≠¬Âœ..some troops were already  clad in newly arrived British uniforms.  December 8th, 1941 , US entry into war lifted some gloomy spirits for the Polish lot.  Soviets at this point were still insincere in their dealings with Polish army.  Movement south was delayed by every possible pretext by Soviets.

Temperatures dropped to 52 degrees and many men froze in tents and the transports with  those who  arrived to join the army from distant provinces  werenââ≠¬â≥¢t allowed to remain by the Russiansââ≠¬ÂœÃ¢â≠¬Âœ..who sent them further south, and rerouted them along the Amu-Daria for forced labour. Many of those men were never seen again. 

At the beginning of 1942 finally received a decision from soviets for the transfer of troops out.   

He doesnââ≠¬â≥¢t give a specific date on when they left.

My finds:

November 22, 1941, Polish Embassy in USSR advised Polish deportees to head south through Novosibirsk , where another Polish outpost was created. With this announcement a large exodus began from remote areas of USSR such as Arkhangelsk , Vorkuta , the Ural mountains, Siberia, Kolyma, Irkutsk , and Akmolinsk.

From other sources I foundââ≠¬ÂœIn February, 1942,  the army was moved further south, where climatic conditions were better, but contagious diseases were endemic.  Anders headquarters were now in Yangi Yul near Tahskent, where most units were located. Other parts of the army were in Samarkand, Shakhrisabz (Uzbekistan), Margilan (Tajikistan), Frunze, Dzhalal-Abad (Kirgizia), Ashkhabad (Turkmenia), Alma-Ata, Chimkent, Logovoi and Merke (Kazakhstan). 

 

hania

 

 

From: annafranklin85 <annafranklin@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:08:15 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book - another request.

 

I, also, would appreciate some information from "Army in Exile", please. Through my local inter-library loan program, I was able to obtain Anders book for two weeks - not enough time to finish it, and I can't get the book for another four months. I would like to know the date Anders pulled out of Buzuluk and the page number(s) where the information is found. Thanks for the help.

Anna Franklin (Canada).

 

 

 


#55079 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 9:52 pm
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] sports
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Halina, non related to sports but did hear that Polish Knights (Medieval times) were the only ones in the world to use 14 different weapons and knew how to use them all.  They still re-enact at the Castles using these weapons, having huge festivals and dressing historical clothing.  

Regards,

Lenarda, Australia

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of halinajackowska
Sent: Saturday, 02 March, 2013 12:12 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] sports

 

 

Dear Kresy-Siberia group, I know this is not a Kresy-Siberia realated question, so sorry about that. However, I am hoping to appeal to the historians on this group, who most likely know the answer to this question. It is for my son's project for his grade 2 class.

Is there a sport that began in Poland? If not, then what is the national sport? Or, even what has been an important sport throughout history?

Thank you for any responses in advance.

Halina Jackowska


#55080 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 9:59 pm
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
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John for such flattery, I should buy you a Vodka.

I truly admire this KS Group and it is a pleasure to assist where I can, don’t forget I get into trouble too, when I put forward something I am not sure of, but this is all EDUCATION AND RESEARCH.  This is why we Exist as GROUP.

 Subject of Reading online, from what I can guess it is a Google Function, which I am not familiar with, but I have already posted an answer.  But in the process of looking again, found many other related topic books, please have a look.

Warmest wishes

Lenarda, Australia

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Halucha
Sent: Saturday, 02 March, 2013 3:39 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

That's very kind, Hania. Thank you.

Thank you also Basia for the sweet notion of lending me your copy - but yes, I will be getting my own copy whose margins I can gently mark in light pencil for ease of taking notes.

And Lenarda, for repeating your post with the links. Like Carol, I would love it if you can answer your own question about whether it can be read online in the meantime.

Another example of what makes this forum exquisite as Lenarda often reminds us - in deeds as well as words.

John Halucha

Sault Ste Marie, Canada

 


From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:34:17 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

Will check later  for you...

 

hania

 

From: John Halucha <john.halucha@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

Excellent information, Hania. Thanks.

I have not yet got my hands on An Army in Exile: can you tell us if Anders says much about the 8th Infantry Division from its formation in the Soviet Union to its dissolution in the Middle East? I am particularly interested in recruiting on March 30, 1942 and the date(s) of the Caspian Sea journey to Pahlevi.

Grateful regards,

John Halucha

Sault Ste Marie, Canada

 


#55081 From: Carol Clements <craftyccc@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 10:20 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
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The link has some strange characters and will not work for me. Please can you check it, i am interested to read this
Carol uk

Carol C H C
Sent from my iPad

On 1 Mar 2013, at 21:48, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:

 

Carol

The first two are Amazon and ABE books to be purchased and prices.

 

The last one is a Google Site, but I am not familiar with how this works. From a guess you put arrow on –“Go To Google Play Now” (Click) and this takes you into where you sign in and then you can download and read books through your ANDROID?

 

But also on the topic of the Google site, I was amazed of how many other books there are on RELATED TOPICS, such as Katyn and many others that I have not heard of with the  history of Eastern Borderlands, even from Group members, truly worth a look.

 

Warmest wishes

Lenarda, Australia

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Clements
Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 9:55 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

Which one can be read online please

Carol UK

Carol C H C

Sent from my iPad


On 28 Feb 2013, at 20:13, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:

 

Hello John

I put forward a link to Amazon earlier this week, with about 10 books available, new and used.  Also Stefan mentioned Amazon, saying they had books available. Be careful as some book companies charge exorbitant prices like 80.00 for one book. Also, there is book that can be read online? I copied my post, hope this helps.

 

AMAZON http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAn-Army-Exile-Second-Polish%2Fdp%2F0898390435&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNGJPUyiDLOy2qabEe7KOm3xTZb88g&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

and

 

ABE http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CHcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abebooks.co.uk%2Fbook-search%2Ftitle%2Fan-army-in-exile%2Fauthor%2Fanders%2Fsortby%2F3%2Fpage-1%2F&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNEAYoWtI8xsNDI7eUV8B8UFnaC_ww&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

And also

An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps

by W³adys³aw Anders

<image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png>5.00  Ã‚·  rating details  Ã‚·  5 ratings  Ã‚·  2 reviews

Hardcover, 319 pages

Published May 30th 1981 by Battery Press (first published 1949)

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI

 

regards,

Lenarda, Australia

 

 

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Milligan
Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 5:27 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

Hi John,

 

UK Abe books has 2 copies at about £50 each. I can lend you my copy but the postage would be not much less than the cost of a copy of your own? 

 

Best wishes,

 

Basia (UK)

On 28 Feb 2013, at 15:12, John Halucha wrote:




 

 

Excellent information, Hania. Thanks.

I have not yet got my hands on An Army in Exile: can you tell us if Anders says much about the 8th Infantry Division from its formation in the Soviet Union to its dissolution in the Middle East? I am particularly interested in recruiting on March 30, 1942 and the date(s) of the Caspian Sea journey to Pahlevi.

Grateful regards,

John Halucha

Sault Ste Marie, Canada

 


From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:25:32 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

From Anders in Exile ...Page 92-94......Anders Returned to Kuybyshev December 5, 1941ââ≠¬Âœ.Sikorski caught a cold and couldnââ≠¬â≥¢t go to Buzuluk for a few days.. to tour Polish military centres.  At Totskoie and Tatistchev camps  ââ≠¬Âœ..some troops were already  clad in newly arrived British uniforms.  December 8th, 1941 , US entry into war lifted some gloomy spirits for the Polish lot.  Soviets at this point were still insincere in their dealings with Polish army.  Movement south was delayed by every possible pretext by Soviets.

Temperatures dropped to 52 degrees and many men froze in tents and the transports with  those who  arrived to join the army from distant provinces  werenââ≠¬â≥¢t allowed to remain by the Russiansââ≠¬ÂœÃ¢â≠¬Âœ..who sent them further south, and rerouted them along the Amu-Daria for forced labour. Many of those men were never seen again. 

At the beginning of 1942 finally received a decision from soviets for the transfer of troops out.   

He doesnââ≠¬â≥¢t give a specific date on when they left.

My finds:

November 22, 1941, Polish Embassy in USSR advised Polish deportees to head south through Novosibirsk , where another Polish outpost was created. With this announcement a large exodus began from remote areas of USSR such as Arkhangelsk , Vorkuta , the Ural mountains, Siberia, Kolyma, Irkutsk , and Akmolinsk.

From other sources I foundââ≠¬ÂœIn February, 1942,  the army was moved further south, where climatic conditions were better, but contagious diseases were endemic.  Anders headquarters were now in Yangi Yul near Tahskent, where most units were located. Other parts of the army were in Samarkand, Shakhrisabz (Uzbekistan), Margilan (Tajikistan), Frunze, Dzhalal-Abad (Kirgizia), Ashkhabad (Turkmenia), Alma-Ata, Chimkent, Logovoi and Merke (Kazakhstan). 

 

hania

 

 

From: annafranklin85 <annafranklin@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:08:15 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book - another request.

 

I, also, would appreciate some information from "Army in Exile", please. Through my local inter-library loan program, I was able to obtain Anders book for two weeks - not enough time to finish it, and I can't get the book for another four months. I would like to know the date Anders pulled out of Buzuluk and the page number(s) where the information is found. Thanks for the help.

Anna Franklin (Canada).

 

 

 


#55082 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 12:41 am
Subject: Wladyslaw Anders other book
lenardaszymczak
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Aide-memoire and Map of the Forced Labour Camps Introduced by the Communist Administration in Poland

Front Cover

Wadysaw Anders

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- 19 pages

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Title

Aide-memoire and Map of the Forced Labour Camps Introduced by the Communist Administration in Poland

Author

Wadysaw Anders

Contributors

Polish Association of Former Soviet Political Prisoners, Ad Hoc Committee on Forced Labor

Length

19 pages

Subjects

Concentration camps
Forced labor

Regards, Lenarda, Australia


#55083 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 12:56 am
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
lenardaszymczak
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Carol,

Go inside the link below and once inside look for left margin, beside book displayed, you click on any of these symbols or writing and it will take you to SIGN IN, after this you will need to join, please read directions below

 

An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps

(You need to enter this link first) -    http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI

  (click on above link to get you in – then look for – Go To Google Play Now –  purple colour - you will see symbols above, click on computer screen symbol or any other symbol)

 

Then you will need to open Google account, which I did, at no cost unless I purchase a read on-line book or find one for FREE.  this is a good thing as they have books for sale, on line to read, for little cost or free if you can understand how to navigate the site,  but after opening my account and trying to navigate, got completely lost and couldn’t even find a doorknob, to open anything, even to check the cost.  It seems, at my guess, that if you cannot open, they do not hold book for reading but will direct you to store for purchase.

 

Realistically, with computer crashes etc. nothing replaces the hard copy, held in hand and by purchasing from Amazon, available at discount when going through Kresy-Siberia Group, which contributes to the running costs of Kresy-Siberia Group.

 

Sorry I cannot help further, perhaps someone more knowledgeable can assist as my IT skills are not great.

Regards,

Lenarda, Australia

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Clements
Sent: Saturday, 02 March, 2013 9:20 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Cc: <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

The link has some strange characters and will not work for me. Please can you check it, i am interested to read this

Carol uk

Carol C H C

Sent from my iPad


On 1 Mar 2013, at 21:48, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:

 

Carol

The first two are Amazon and ABE books to be purchased and prices.

 

The last one is a Google Site, but I am not familiar with how this works. From a guess you put arrow on –“Go To Google Play Now” (Click) and this takes you into where you sign in and then you can download and read books through your ANDROID?

 

But also on the topic of the Google site, I was amazed of how many other books there are on RELATED TOPICS, such as Katyn and many others that I have not heard of with the  history of Eastern Borderlands, even from Group members, truly worth a look.

 

Warmest wishes

Lenarda, Australia

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Clements
Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 9:55 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

Which one can be read online please

Carol UK

Carol C H C

Sent from my iPad


On 28 Feb 2013, at 20:13, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:

 

Hello John

I put forward a link to Amazon earlier this week, with about 10 books available, new and used.  Also Stefan mentioned Amazon, saying they had books available. Be careful as some book companies charge exorbitant prices like 80.00 for one book. Also, there is book that can be read online? I copied my post, hope this helps.

 

AMAZON http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAn-Army-Exile-Second-Polish%2Fdp%2F0898390435&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNGJPUyiDLOy2qabEe7KOm3xTZb88g&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

and

 

ABE http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CHcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abebooks.co.uk%2Fbook-search%2Ftitle%2Fan-army-in-exile%2Fauthor%2Fanders%2Fsortby%2F3%2Fpage-1%2F&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNEAYoWtI8xsNDI7eUV8B8UFnaC_ww&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja

 

And also

An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps

by W³adys³aw Anders

<image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png>5.00  Ã‚·  rating details  Ã‚·  5 ratings  Ã‚·  2 reviews

Hardcover, 319 pages

Published May 30th 1981 by Battery Press (first published 1949)

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI

 

regards,

Lenarda, Australia

 


#55084 From: "Frances" <frncsgts@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 2:10 am
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
frncsgts
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This book doesn't seem to be available on Google Play, the only information on
this site is the name of the book, the author, date of publication and a couple
of short reviews.

Frances

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Carol,
>
> Go inside the link below and once inside look for left margin, beside book
displayed, you click on any of these symbols or writing and it will take you to
SIGN IN, after this you will need to join, please read directions below.
>
>
>
> An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps
>
> (You need to enter this link first) -    
<http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0\
CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.ht\
ml%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c\
2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI>
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0C\
FYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.htm\
l%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2\
z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI "
>
>   (click on above link to get you in " then look for " Go To Google Play
Now "  purple colour - you will see symbols above, click on computer screen
symbol or any other symbol)
>
>
>
> Then you will need to open Google account, which I did, at no cost unless I
purchase a read on-line book or find one for FREE.  this is a good thing as they
have books for sale, on line to read, for little cost or free if you can
understand how to navigate the site,  but after opening my account and trying to
navigate, got completely lost and couldn’t even find a doorknob, to open
anything, even to check the cost.  It seems, at my guess, that if you cannot
open, they do not hold book for reading but will direct you to store for
purchase.
>
>
>
> Realistically, with computer crashes etc. nothing replaces the hard copy, held
in hand and by purchasing from Amazon, available at discount when going through
Kresy-Siberia Group, which contributes to the running costs of Kresy-Siberia
Group.
>
>
>
> Sorry I cannot help further, perhaps someone more knowledgeable can assist as
my IT skills are not great.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lenarda, Australia
>
>
>
> From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Carol Clements
> Sent: Saturday, 02 March, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
>
>
>
>
>
> The link has some strange characters and will not work for me. Please can you
check it, i am interested to read this
>
> Carol uk
>
> Carol C H C
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On 1 Mar 2013, at 21:48, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Carol
>
> The first two are Amazon and ABE books to be purchased and prices.
>
>
>
> The last one is a Google Site, but I am not familiar with how this works. From
a guess you put arrow on –â€"Go To Google Play Now” (Click) and
this takes you into where you sign in and then you can download and read books
through your ANDROID?
>
>
>
> But also on the topic of the Google site, I was amazed of how many other books
there are on RELATED TOPICS, such as Katyn and many others that I have not heard
of with the  history of Eastern Borderlands, even from Group members, truly
worth a look.
>
>
>
> Warmest wishes
>
> Lenarda, Australia
>
>
>
> From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Carol Clements
> Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 9:55 PM
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
>
>
>
>
>
> Which one can be read online please
>
> Carol UK
>
> Carol C H C
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On 28 Feb 2013, at 20:13, "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello John
>
> I put forward a link to Amazon earlier this week, with about 10 books
available, new and used.  Also Stefan mentioned Amazon, saying they had
books available. Be careful as some book companies charge exorbitant prices like
80.00 for one book. Also, there is book that can be read online? I copied my
post, hope this helps.
>
>
>
> AMAZON http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t
<http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEAQFjAB\
&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAn-Army-Exile-Second-Polish%2Fdp%2F0898390435\
&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNGJPUyiDLOy2qabEe7KOm3xTZb88g&bvm=bv.4296557\
9,d.dGI&cad=rja>
&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2\
FAn-Army-Exile-Second-Polish%2Fdp%2F0898390435&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQ\
jCNGJPUyiDLOy2qabEe7KOm3xTZb88g&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja
>
>
>
> and
>
>
>
> ABE http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t
<http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CHcQFjA\
J&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abebooks.co.uk%2Fbook-search%2Ftitle%2Fan-army-in-exile%2\
Fauthor%2Fanders%2Fsortby%2F3%2Fpage-1%2F&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNEA\
YoWtI8xsNDI7eUV8B8UFnaC_ww&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja>
&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CHcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abebooks.co\
.uk%2Fbook-search%2Ftitle%2Fan-army-in-exile%2Fauthor%2Fanders%2Fsortby%2F3%2Fpa\
ge-1%2F&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNEAYoWtI8xsNDI7eUV8B8UFnaC_ww&bvm=bv.\
42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja
>
>
>
> And also
>
> An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps
>
> by W³adys³aw Anders
<http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3372899.W_adys_aw_Anders>
>
> <image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png><image002.png>5.00 
·  rating details
<http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/501330.An_Army_in_Exile>   ·  5
ratings 
<http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/501330.An_Army_in_Exile#other_reviews> 
·  2 reviews 
<http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/501330.An_Army_in_Exile#other_reviews>
>
> Hardcover, 319 pages
>
> Published May 30th 1981 by Battery Press (first published 1949)
>
> http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t
<http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0\
CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.ht\
ml%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c\
2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI>
&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.go\
ogle.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3\
LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI
>
>
>
> regards,
>
> Lenarda, Australia
>
>
>
>  
<http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=3990911/grpspId=1705444571/msgId=550\
81/stime=1362176410>
>

#55085 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 2:54 am
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
lenardaszymczak
Send Email Send Email
 

Frances, thank you, I did think this, but needed someone with more IT skills to verify it.

Thanks again,

Lenarda, Australia

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frances
Sent: Saturday, 02 March, 2013 1:10 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk

 

 

This book doesn't seem to be available on Google Play, the only information on this site is the name of the book, the author, date of publication and a couple of short reviews.

Frances

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Lenarda Szymczak" wrote:
>
>
>
> Carol,
>
> Go inside the link below and once inside look for left margin, beside book displayed, you click on any of these symbols or writing and it will take you to SIGN IN, after this you will need to join, please read directions below.
>
>
>
> An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps
>
> (You need to enter this link first) - http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI> http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI â€"
>
> (click on above link to get you in â€" then look for â€" Go To Google Play Now â€" purple colour - you will see symbols above, click on computer screen symbol or any other symbol)
>
>
>
> Then you will need to open Google account, which I did, at no cost unless I purchase a read on-line book or find one for FREE. this is a good thing as they have books for sale, on line to read, for little cost or free if you can understand how to navigate the site, but after opening my account and trying to navigate, got completely lost and couldn’t even find a doorknob, to open anything, even to check the cost. It seems, at my guess, that if you cannot open, they do not hold book for reading but will direct you to store for purchase.
>
>
>
> Realistically, with computer crashes etc. nothing replaces the hard copy, held in hand and by purchasing from Amazon, available at discount when going through Kresy-Siberia Group, which contributes to the running costs of Kresy-Siberia Group.
>
>
>
> Sorry I cannot help further, perhaps someone more knowledgeable can assist as my IT skills are not great.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lenarda, Australia
>
>
>
> From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Clements
> Sent: Saturday, 02 March, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
>
>
>
>
>
> The link has some strange characters and will not work for me. Please can you check it, i am interested to read this
>
> Carol uk
>
> Carol C H C
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On 1 Mar 2013, at 21:48, "Lenarda Szymczak" wrote:
>
>
>
> Carol
>
> The first two are Amazon and ABE books to be purchased and prices.
>
>
>
> The last one is a Google Site, but I am not familiar with how this works. From a guess you put arrow on –â€Å"Go To Google Play Now” (Click) and this takes you into where you sign in and then you can download and read books through your ANDROID?
>
>
>
> But also on the topic of the Google site, I was amazed of how many other books there are on RELATED TOPICS, such as Katyn and many others that I have not heard of with the  history of Eastern Borderlands, even from Group members, truly worth a look.
>
>
>
> Warmest wishes
>
> Lenarda, Australia
>
>
>
> From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Clements
> Sent: Friday, 01 March, 2013 9:55 PM
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders "Army in Exile" book .. Buzuluk
>
>
>
>
>
> Which one can be read online please
>
> Carol UK
>
> Carol C H C
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On 28 Feb 2013, at 20:13, "Lenarda Szymczak" wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello John
>
> I put forward a link to Amazon earlier this week, with about 10 books available, new and used. Also Stefan mentioned Amazon, saying they had books available. Be careful as some book companies charge exorbitant prices like 80.00 for one book. Also, there is book that can be read online? I copied my post, hope this helps.
>
>
>
> AMAZON http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAn-Army-Exile-Second-Polish%2Fdp%2F0898390435&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNGJPUyiDLOy2qabEe7KOm3xTZb88g&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja> &rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAn-Army-Exile-Second-Polish%2Fdp%2F0898390435&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNGJPUyiDLOy2qabEe7KOm3xTZb88g&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja
>
>
>
> and
>
>
>
> ABE http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CHcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abebooks.co.uk%2Fbook-search%2Ftitle%2Fan-army-in-exile%2Fauthor%2Fanders%2Fsortby%2F3%2Fpage-1%2F&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNEAYoWtI8xsNDI7eUV8B8UFnaC_ww&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja> &rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CHcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abebooks.co.uk%2Fbook-search%2Ftitle%2Fan-army-in-exile%2Fauthor%2Fanders%2Fsortby%2F3%2Fpage-1%2F&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNEAYoWtI8xsNDI7eUV8B8UFnaC_ww&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI&cad=rja
>
>
>
> And also
>
> An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps
>
> by W³adys³aw Anders http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3372899.W_adys_aw_Anders>
>
> 5.00 · rating details http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/501330.An_Army_in_Exile> · 5 ratings http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/501330.An_Army_in_Exile#other_reviews> · 2 reviews http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/501330.An_Army_in_Exile#other_reviews>
>
> Hardcover, 319 pages
>
> Published May 30th 1981 by Battery Press (first published 1949)
>
> http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI> &rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FAn_army_in_exile.html%3Fid%3DbPHOAAAAMAAJ&ei=RywtUbz3LMmLkQX98YDoDg&usg=AFQjCNH65EahwQy3Rg3PWKgES0c2z8myOw&bvm=bv.42965579,d.dGI
>
>
>
> regards,
>
> Lenarda, Australia
>
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>


#55086 From: "danutakelly" <cradia@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 3:22 am
Subject: Re: sports
danutakelly
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Halina
I believe the National sport of Poland is soccar/football depending where you
live.  Poland usually is represented in the World Cup.
Danuta
Western Australia

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "halinajackowska" <halinajackowska@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Kresy-Siberia group, I know this is not a Kresy-Siberia realated
question, so sorry about that. However, I am hoping to appeal to the historians
on this group, who most likely know the answer to this question. It is for my
son's project for his grade 2 class.
>
> Is there a sport that began in Poland? If not, then what is the national
sport? Or, even what has been an important sport throughout history?
>
> Thank you for any responses in advance.
>
> Halina Jackowska
>

#55087 From: <stefan.wisniowski@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 5:06 am
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Sevzheldorlag (was Polish villages)
skwisniowski
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Yes Carol - you can scan them and attach them to your e-mail to the group.

Regards
Stefan Wisniowski
Sydney Australia
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Sevzheldorlag (was Polish
villages)
From: "caz2ukuk" <craftyccc@...>
Date: Wed, February 27, 2013 6:14 am
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com

 
My grandfather Antoni Mieldun was in 2 of the camps you mention. How did the POW's that signed up to join Anders get across the USSR and how does one find out which ship took them to Persia?
I have some documents from Karta but they are in Russian and Polish. If I scan them and upload them somewhere can someone please help with translation?
Any help appreciated.

Carol UK

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, John Halucha wrote:
>
> Hi, Tony.
> My late father, Jan Hałucha, was born near Lubaczów about 50 km east of your
> father's birthplace. Although I did not make it to Gorliczyna, I rode through
> Przeworsk this summer on my way from Rzeszów to Lubaczów. I also rode through
> Zamość, so if you saw an old guy on a bike with big red panniers, it was
> probably me.
> My father spent almost two years at Pieczorlag (Pechorlag) in Komi, not far from
> your father. Jean Bingle writes on Page 15 of her excellent dissertation, "LABOR
> FOR BREAD: THE EXPLOITATION OF POLISH LABOR IN THE SOVIET UNION DURING WORLD WAR
> II" (available at
> http://wvuscholar.wvu.edu:8881//exlibris/dtl/d3_1/apache_media/12639.pdf> ):
> “... two camps were established to build the railways, SevZhelDorLag between
> Kotlas and the Pechora River and Pechorlag between the Pechora River and
> Vorkuta.” So it appears our fathers laboured to build the same railway line.
> Bingle has detailed descriptions of conditions at the camp, and if you haven't
> read her paper yet you might find it useful.
>
> Norman Davies writes in "Europe at War", p. 332that Sevzheldorlag operated from
> 1938 to 1950, building the Kotlas-Vorkuta railway. It hit its maximum registered
> inmates in 1941 â€" 84,893.
> Also, "And of the building of Northern Railway Prisoners Camp ("SevZhelDorLag")
> Solzhenitsyn writes: "An ordinary hard working political prisoner almost could
> not survive at that penal camp. In the camp SevZhelDorLag (chief: colonel
> Klyuchkin) in 1946â€"47 there were many cases of cannibalism: they cut human
> bodies, cooked and ate." - A.Solzhenitsyn "The Gulag Archipelago" part III,
> chapter 15. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism.
> KS member Anne Kaczanowski wrote on this forum Jan. 28, 2008, message 27276: “In
> January 1940, the number of prisoners at Vorkutlag is 16,509 and Sevzheldorlag
> 26,310. There is an influx of people arrested in the eastern territory of Poland
> annexed by the USSR, in the first phase of the war. May 14, 1940 -separate camp,
> the North Pechora , or Sevpechlag is divided off from the Northern Railroad
> Sevzheldorlag camp with the task of building the 457 kilometre section of the
> railroad line from Kozhva to Vorkuta (later inmates at this camp built the
> railroad lines and sidings in Vorkuta and surrounding area including the line to
> Khalmer-Yul) .The Pechora is a river in northern Komi, the republic between the
> Archangel Region and the Urals.] The first train was sent from Vorkuta on the
> new line on December 28, 1941. In the middle of the summer of 1942 the
> North-Pechora line was put into regular use from Vorkuta through Kotlas to
> Konosha.”
> Our fathers' paths appear to have diverged after the gulag experience, though.
> My Dad made it to Persia in the first wave of evacuations in March-April 1942
> and after joining Anders he was transferred to the 1st Polish Armoured Division,
> arriving in Scotland Aug. 28, 1942.
> I would be very interested in your wartime era photos. Maybe my Dad is hiding
> there somewhere. I know it's a long shot, but I found my father in a photo
> shared by KS member John Bartoszyński (cześć, Janek!) so I have proof that long
> shots pay off.
>
> John Halucha
> Sault Ste Marie, Canada
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tony Konieczny
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 10:50:36 AM
> Subject: RE: [Kresy-Siberia] Polish villages.
>
>
> Hello Group Members
>
> This is my first email to you all, so please bear with me if it is not
> absolutely what you were expecting.
>
> My father, Stanislaw Konieczny, was born in Gorliczyna, near Przeworsk, between
> Jaroslaw and Rzeszow, and later moved to Nowe Siolo with his father, Tomasz and
> mother Theresa (nee Pilek), sister Irena and brother Stephan. I seem to
> remember reading something about the government of the time offering land in
> eastern Poland for the promotion of agriculture, so wonder whether they took
> advantage of that.
>
> He was captured by the Russians on 17 Sept 1939 in eastern Poland, probably
> somewhere near his home village of Nowe Siolo. He was then sent to the camp
> Krzywy Rog, near Dniepopetrowsk in the Ukraine, then to Juza in the Russian
> province of Iwanowska. It then appears that he was sent on June 11 1940 to
> Siewzeldorlag in the Russian province of Komi. On 24 August 1941 he reported to
> the Polish military authorities at Wiazniki POW camp and enlisted in the Polish
> Army on 15 Sept 1941, eventually becoming under British command when he crossed
> the Russian-Iran border on 15 August 1942. He was assigned to the Polish Air
> Force on 2nd January 1943 and transferred to Britain on 4th February 1943.
>
> I would like to know more about where the camps were and what life was like in
> them, so would ask members if they could provide me with information, or lead me
> to such information.
>
> I have some photos of the time he spent in Iran, if they would be of value to
> members. I also have some photos taken this year in Gorliczyna and Nowe Siolo,
> as well as Zamosc and Rzeszow. If these are felt to be useful, then I can post
> to the website.
>
> I have written to Stanford University to see if their Eastern European
> Collection can provide information and plan to viisit the Sikorski Museum in
> London over winter.
>
> Thank you for reading this far.
> Antony Konieczny
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


#55088 From: Simone Kaptur <simonekaptur@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 6:15 am
Subject: Simone Kaptur
skintheuk
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#55089 From: Stefan Wisniowski <stefan.wisniowski@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 9:11 am
Subject: Did Polish gold pay for Poland's WW2 military in exile?
skwisniowski
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Thanks to Joseph Aston for passing on this post from Mr Wacek Jurkiewicz. 

Does anyone have any information about by whom and how the Polish WW2 war effort in the West was paid?

Best regards
Stefan Wisniowski
Sydney Australia 

----- Original Message ----

Hi Everybody,

I was always under the impression that the Allies paid for the arming of the Polish Forces fighting with the Allies during WW2 . Not so.....

My wife Bozenka came across this gem while reading the book “Pamieci Lotnikow Polskich 1918 – 1945” by Jerzy Pawlak. According to the author at the end of WW2 the british government submitted a bill to the Polish Government for the cost of outfitting and maintaining the the Polish squadrons flying as part of the Royal Air Force. The privilege of defending Great Britain and sustaining heavy losses in the process cost us dearly, £107,650,000 to be exact. If I am not mistaken, using the “Historical UK Inflation Tables”, see the link above, this comes to £3,875,400,000 or close to  £3.9 billion in 2012 pounds.

This sum is so high that I am starting to think that it might include the arming of all the Polish Forces fighting with the Allies. That sum was paid by the Polish Government. It was deducted from the gold deposited by the Polish Government in Canada for safe keeping during the war.
This really adds injury to insult by our great so called “friends and allies”, the Brits.

All the best
Wacek Jurkiewicz


#55090 From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 9:42 am
Subject: Introducing new member Paul Bielecki from Robertsbridge, East Sussex UK
helenbitner
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Dear group
Please welcome Paul to the group.His grandfather Wladislaw Bielecki was executed at Katyn and his grandmother, aunt and mother were deported to Kazakhstan. Wladislaw was in the Polish Army under the command of General Anders . He was in the Polish Signals as a turret radio operator in a Sherman tank and  also was involved in the Battle of Falaise.  His tank was eventually blown up in Holland and he was the only survivor, though injured.  He spent the rest of the war in the UK.  He than continued his education in Huddersfield where he met his wife Vera. They had seven children.
We are glad to have you with us Paul.
Kind regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester
UK





#55091 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 10:35 am
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Paul Bielecki from Robertsbridge, East Sussex UK
lenardaszymczak
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Paul you are very welcome and by the brief profile, besides sharing information and research with group, you could also teach us much.

Warmest regards,

Lenarda, Sydney, Australia

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Bitner
Sent: Saturday, 02 March, 2013 8:43 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Paul Bielecki from Robertsbridge, East Sussex UK

 

 

 

Dear group

Please welcome Paul to the group.His grandfather Wladislaw Bielecki was executed at Katyn and his grandmother, aunt and mother were deported to Kazakhstan. Wladislaw was in the Polish Army under the command of General Anders . He was in the Polish Signals as a turret radio operator in a Sherman tank and  also was involved in the Battle of Falaise.  His tank was eventually blown up in Holland and he was the only survivor, though injured.  He spent the rest of the war in the UK.  He than continued his education in Huddersfield where he met his wife Vera. They had seven children.

We are glad to have you with us Paul.

Kind regards

Helen Bitner

Colchester

UK

 

 

 

 


#55092 From: "Elzunia/Elizabeth Gradosielska/Maczka" <elzunia@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 11:38 am
Subject: Re: Did Polish gold pay for Poland's WW2 military in exile?
elzuniao
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Yes, I have heard this from my mum, just recently. Polish money paid for Anders
army.
Also, a small amount was deducted from the soldiers' pay to cover costs for the
civilians.

Elzunia Gradosielska Olsson
Sweden


--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Stefan Wisniowski <stefan.wisniowski@...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks to Joseph Aston for passing on this post from Mr Wacek Jurkiewicz.
>
> Does anyone have any information about by whom and how the Polish WW2 war
effort in the West was paid?
>
> Best regards
> Stefan Wisniowski
> Sydney Australia
>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
>
> >> Hi Everybody,
>
> >> I was always under the impression that the Allies paid for the arming of
the Polish Forces fighting with the Allies during WW2 . Not so.....
>
> >> My wife Bozenka came across this gem while reading the book “Pamieci
Lotnikow Polskich 1918 " 1945” by Jerzy Pawlak. According to the author at
the end of WW2 the british government submitted a bill to the Polish Government
for the cost of outfitting and maintaining the the Polish squadrons flying as
part of the Royal Air Force. The privilege of defending Great Britain and
sustaining heavy losses in the process cost us dearly, £107,650,000 to be
exact. If I am not mistaken, using the “Historical UK Inflation Tables”, see
the link above, this comes to £3,875,400,000 or close to  £3.9 billion in 2012
pounds.
>
> >> This sum is so high that I am starting to think that it might include the
arming of all the Polish Forces fighting with the Allies. That sum was paid by
the Polish Government. It was deducted from the gold deposited by the Polish
Government in Canada for safe keeping during the war.
> >> This really adds injury to insult by our great so called “friends and
allies”, the Brits.
>
> >> All the best
> >> Wacek Jurkiewicz
> >
>

#55093 From: "Lucyna Artymiuk" <lucynaartymiuk@...>
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Did Polish gold pay for Poland's WW2 military in exile?
lucyna_98
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Wasn’t there nullion taken out on the Batory

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Elzunia/Elizabeth Gradosielska/Maczka
Sent: Saturday, 2 March 2013 10:39 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Did Polish gold pay for Poland's WW2 military in exile?

 

 

Yes, I have heard this from my mum, just recently. Polish money paid for Anders army.
Also, a small amount was deducted from the soldiers' pay to cover costs for the civilians.

Elzunia Gradosielska Olsson
Sweden

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Stefan Wisniowski wrote:
>
> Thanks to Joseph Aston for passing on this post from Mr Wacek Jurkiewicz.
>
> Does anyone have any information about by whom and how the Polish WW2 war effort in the West was paid?
>
> Best regards
> Stefan Wisniowski
> Sydney Australia
>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
>
> >> Hi Everybody,
>
> >> I was always under the impression that the Allies paid for the arming of the Polish Forces fighting with the Allies during WW2 . Not so.....
>
> >> My wife Bozenka came across this gem while reading the book “Pamieci Lotnikow Polskich 1918 â€" 1945” by Jerzy Pawlak. According to the author at the end of WW2 the british government submitted a bill to the Polish Government for the cost of outfitting and maintaining the the Polish squadrons flying as part of the Royal Air Force. The privilege of defending Great Britain and sustaining heavy losses in the process cost us dearly, £107,650,000 to be exact. If I am not mistaken, using the “Historical UK Inflation Tables”, see the link above, this comes to £3,875,400,000 or close to £3.9 billion in 2012 pounds.
>
> >> This sum is so high that I am starting to think that it might include the arming of all the Polish Forces fighting with the Allies. That sum was paid by the Polish Government. It was deducted from the gold deposited by the Polish Government in Canada for safe keeping during the war.
> >> This really adds injury to insult by our great so called “friends and allies”, the Brits.
>
> >> All the best
> >> Wacek Jurkiewicz
> >
>


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