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#54780 From: "tracey.ashworth@..." <tracey.ashworth@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:35 pm
Subject: Travel to Belarus
tracey.ashwo...
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Hello,

Through the assistance of the Kresy Siberia group, I have been fortunate in
being on a wonderful journey of discovery - finding out about my Polish
heritage, including meeting up with family members (aunts and cousins) living
right here in New Zealand. I now wish to travel over to Lithuania and Belarus in
June this year in in order to visit my father's birthplace.

The place my father is from is the small village of Radizule which is located in
the province of Hrodzyenskaya Voblasts' in Belarus. We are thinking of making
Vilnius our main stop off as this is the nearest main city.

I would be grateful of anyone has an travel advice for me, as it is proving
somewhat challenging for the travel companies I have been in contact with to
even locate the place!

Has anyone got any advice on how to find a car with driver? Unfortunately,
neither my partner or I speak any Polish or Russian, and so we will require
someone who can speak English.

I am hoping to also try to locate the church and cemetery in Radizule. I am not
sure if it even exists.

Any advice on accommodation also close to Radizule would also be appreciated.

Regards,

Tracey Ashworth
Auckland, New Zealand

#54781 From: Barbara Milligan <bwbm5@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus
basia5milligan
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Hello Tracey,

We stayed at the Narutis hotel. It is bang in the middle and near the university. They speak English and we hired a driver through them. We did not go into Belarus but I think they wii be able to sort things out for you. It is not a cheap hotel but when we stayed it was most helpful. I cannot advise on visas I'm afraid. 
Have a wonderful time.

Best wishes,

Basia (UK)
On 11 Feb 2013, at 14:35, tracey.ashworth@... wrote:

 

Hello,

Through the assistance of the Kresy Siberia group, I have been fortunate in being on a wonderful journey of discovery - finding out about my Polish heritage, including meeting up with family members (aunts and cousins) living right here in New Zealand. I now wish to travel over to Lithuania and Belarus in June this year in in order to visit my father's birthplace.

The place my father is from is the small village of Radizule which is located in the province of Hrodzyenskaya Voblasts' in Belarus. We are thinking of making Vilnius our main stop off as this is the nearest main city.

I would be grateful of anyone has an travel advice for me, as it is proving somewhat challenging for the travel companies I have been in contact with to even locate the place!

Has anyone got any advice on how to find a car with driver? Unfortunately, neither my partner or I speak any Polish or Russian, and so we will require someone who can speak English.

I am hoping to also try to locate the church and cemetery in Radizule. I am not sure if it even exists.

Any advice on accommodation also close to Radizule would also be appreciated.

Regards,

Tracey Ashworth
Auckland, New Zealand



#54782 From: "kkorky@..." <kkorky@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:41 pm
Subject: Re: Tracing family
kkorky...
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Hi Rys,

Thanks for your info.  I will contact CAW this week. Lenarda's reply with regard
to Zoludek is really informative and has given me food for thought (as if I do
not have enough already !)

Best, Simone
(UK)

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "ryszardsys"  wrote:
>
> Simone,
>
> CAW is opening and running - I had some info off them just on friday.  I think
its just their reading rooms which are closed.
>
> I can't find a Zoludek, but the town of Szczuczyn is close to the current
Polish border and a long way from Wilno.
>
> On www.list.memo.ru/index11.htm there are several Kaptur's but they all seem
to be from Minsk.
>
> The SAJ's have a few record http://www.geneszukacz.genealodzy.pl/
>
> Rys
> Uk
>
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "kkorky@"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi.  Thanks so much for your replies.
> >
> > I looked at CAW and see that their archives are closed until 2014 !  I will
email them tomorrow.
> >
> > The info I do have is as follows (excuse my lack of polish language)
> >
> > What I think is an address is:
> >
> > woj Nowogrodzkie, pow. Szczuczyn, m. Zoludek ' ul.Koscielna.
> >
> > Paternal grandfather was Adam Kaptur dob ?.?.1897
> > Paternal grandmother was Helena Kaptur dob 12.05.1902  Maiden name Saj.
> >
> > Great-grandfather  - Wincenty
> > Great-grandmother -  Anna
> >
> > From Kaptur or Saj side I do not know.
> >
> > I am curious as to whether Adam and Helena had siblings and what happened to
them.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Simone
> > (UK)
> >
> > --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "ryszardsys"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Simone,
> > >
> > > If you can provide names, addresses (if any), dates (birth) etc., there
are loads of people on here, like me who can quickly look through some records
and point you in the right direction.
> > >
> > > Paternal names - I've seen the same person being named as father of both
the husband and the wife.  This isn't in-breeding, but can often simply be that
both had a father with the same christian name (the wife not showing her maiden
name) - look for anything that says "zd" or "z domu" as an indication of maiden
name.
> > >
> > > You say they are from Wilno.  Again, is the definately from Wilno the
city, the "greater" Wilno area, or as I found in many cases, Wilno the
wojwodstwo (or administrative area)  - this can be a huge area. Any addresses
would help.
> > >
> > > Rys
> > > UK
> > >
> > > --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "kkorky@"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello to you all.
> > > >
> > > > I want to start the tracing of my father's family.  I have my
grandparents names and the family home address in Wilno as provided by the essay
that my uncle wrote that was sent to me from the Hoover Institute.
> > > >
> > > > I also have a name of Wincenty Kaptur.  He was listed as being the
father of my paternal grandfather, Adam, from Karta records.  The confusion is
that Wincenty is also listed as being my paternal grandmother's father on a list
obtained via the Red Cross.  I would very much like to ascertain the family
lines, as I am sure we all do.
> > > >
> > > > Any links, tips on searching, applying for info is greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Simone
> > > > (UK)
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#54783 From: "kkorky@..." <kkorky@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: Tracing family
kkorky...
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Hi Antoni

Thank you for this link.  I think it is a very good idea and will contact them
via email this week.

Best, Simone
(UK)

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Antoni Kazimierski"  wrote:
>
> Dear Simone,
>
> It might not be a bad idea if you were to contact the Jewish Belarus Research
Society at  belshtetl@...  writing in English, if you wish, and enquire if there
are any records of Saj and Kaptur families from that area of Bagnowka/Zaludok.
> They are very helpful.
> antoni530 in UK
>

#54784 From: Barbara Proko <lida_ancestors@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:01 pm
Subject: Zoludek
lida_ancestors
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Zoludek is both a town and a Roman Catholic parish seat in western Belarus. I visited the church there about 12 years ago.
 
The Mormons filmed Zoludek parish baptisms, marriages and death through 1890; it was one of the parishes in the old Lida dekanat of the Wilno diocese. The Grodno archives most likely hold newer records.Some Zoludek records are also online at ePalvedas, a significant Lithuanian site: http://www.epaveldas.lt/vbspi/
 
A helpful listserv to join is the LidaRoots Yahoo! group, which focuses on the history and genealogy of the Lida region of western Belarus. Members represent all of the region's ethnicities and religious affiliations.
 
Barbara Proko(powicz)
ancestry in several Lida area parishes
 
 

#54785 From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: February 10th, 1940....The Light of the Candle
kazameena
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No I'm sorry I don't have this translated yet as my Polish is not that good. Someday......
Janis
Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-02-11, at 12:22 AM, "Aneta Hoffmann" <aneta.hoffmann@...> wrote:

 

Dear Anne,
thank you very much for this beautiful poem in these special days. It's giving emotions of all 2nd and 3rd generationers. Do you have its' translation into Polish ?

Brgds

Aneta Hoffmann
Warsaw, Poland
granddaughter of Maria Maciejewska of Pogiry, nowadays Belarus


#54786 From: Stanislaw Zwierzynski <zwierzinski1957@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus
zwierzinski1957
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Dear Tracey!

Thereis no village Radizule in Belarus. If you do not want to get into a difficult situation and that you are not charged with local authorities (they are very suspicious), that you - New Zealand spies, you have to know exactly where you are going.

Please less optimism and more realism. Belarusians - very nice hospitable people, but very scared, everything is under control. You must make an accurate map of the route.
It is best to look for traces of your relatives on the crosses and monuments in the cemetery - it is necessary to know Polish language.

Read on old maps, just as the name of your village. Approximately determine its location. Then go to Googl, find this place and find out what the name of this village now.

On Belarus is best to move on the bus - they go on schedule, between large, medium and small cities and even villages. Then take a taxi in the town and drive around if it is necessary.

Remember - change the currency in Minsk or another major city. If you are going to pay on the spot in dollars or euros - a chance to get in, may sit there with criminals and feel like your family feel in 1939-41.

I'll go to Grodno region in July and August.
Stan from M.


From: "tracey.ashworth@..." <tracey.ashworth@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:35 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus

 
Hello,

Through the assistance of the Kresy Siberia group, I have been fortunate in being on a wonderful journey of discovery - finding out about my Polish heritage, including meeting up with family members (aunts and cousins) living right here in New Zealand. I now wish to travel over to Lithuania and Belarus in June this year in in order to visit my father's birthplace.

The place my father is from is the small village of Radizule which is located in the province of Hrodzyenskaya Voblasts' in Belarus. We are thinking of making Vilnius our main stop off as this is the nearest main city.

I would be grateful of anyone has an travel advice for me, as it is proving somewhat challenging for the travel companies I have been in contact with to even locate the place!

Has anyone got any advice on how to find a car with driver? Unfortunately, neither my partner or I speak any Polish or Russian, and so we will require someone who can speak English.

I am hoping to also try to locate the church and cemetery in Radizule. I am not sure if it even exists.

Any advice on accommodation also close to Radizule would also be appreciated.

Regards,

Tracey Ashworth
Auckland, New Zealand




#54787 From: Józef Taran <jozef.taran@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:25 pm
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus
jozef.taran@...
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Hello Stan,

 

There were even two hamlets Radziule, both In old powiat of Wilno.

You may look here:

http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_IX/474

 

Just my dwa grosze J

Józef, Warsaw, Poland

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stanislaw Zwierzynski
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:07 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus

 

 

Dear Tracey!

Thereis no village Radizule in Belarus. If you do not want to get into a difficult situation and that you are not charged with local authorities (they are very suspicious), that you - New Zealand spies, you have to know exactly where you are going.

Please less optimism and more realism. Belarusians - very nice hospitable people, but very scared, everything is under control. You must make an accurate map of the route.
It is best to look for traces of your relatives on the crosses and monuments in the cemetery - it is necessary to know Polish language.

Read on old maps, just as the name of your village. Approximately determine its location. Then go to Googl, find this place and find out what the name of this village now.

On Belarus is best to move on the bus - they go on schedule, between large, medium and small cities and even villages. Then take a taxi in the town and drive around if it is necessary.

Remember - change the currency in Minsk or another major city. If you are going to pay on the spot in dollars or euros - a chance to get in, may sit there with criminals and feel like your family feel in 1939-41.

I'll go to Grodno region in July and August.
Stan from M.

 


From: "tracey.ashworth@..." <tracey.ashworth@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:35 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus

 

 

Hello,

Through the assistance of the Kresy Siberia group, I have been fortunate in being on a wonderful journey of discovery - finding out about my Polish heritage, including meeting up with family members (aunts and cousins) living right here in New Zealand. I now wish to travel over to Lithuania and Belarus in June this year in in order to visit my father's birthplace.

The place my father is from is the small village of Radizule which is located in the province of Hrodzyenskaya Voblasts' in Belarus. We are thinking of making Vilnius our main stop off as this is the nearest main city.

I would be grateful of anyone has an travel advice for me, as it is proving somewhat challenging for the travel companies I have been in contact with to even locate the place!

Has anyone got any advice on how to find a car with driver? Unfortunately, neither my partner or I speak any Polish or Russian, and so we will require someone who can speak English.

I am hoping to also try to locate the church and cemetery in Radizule. I am not sure if it even exists.

Any advice on accommodation also close to Radizule would also be appreciated.

Regards,

Tracey Ashworth
Auckland, New Zealand

 


#54788 From: "tracey.ashworth@..." <tracey.ashworth@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:08 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus
tracey.ashwo...
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Hello there Stan,

I can understand your concern! The place we wish to travel to is very tiny -
virtually unpopulated, and is located in the Wilno area - now Belarus. The
nearest main city happens to be Vilnius in Lithuania - Radizule is 50 km away
across the border to the East of Vilnius.

My cousin Mary-Anne Morgan visited Radizule four years ago, and we have google
map coordinates plus Mary-Anne's handwritten map. I now wish to make the same
trip and have been advised that we are best to hire a driver and car as
obviously no buses are available, and as you quite rightly point out, the
Belarussian authoriies can be a bit sticky!

We plan to base our stay from Vilnius in Lithuania, and will probably only need
to be in Belarus for a day.

Regards,

Tracey Ashworth
Auckland, NZ

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Stanislaw Zwierzynski  wrote:
>
> Dear Tracey!
>
> Thereis no village Radizule in Belarus. If you do not want to get into a
difficult situation and that you are not charged with local authorities (they
are very suspicious), that you - New Zealand spies, you have to know exactly
where you are going.
>
> Please less optimism and more realism. Belarusians - very nice hospitable
people, but very scared, everything is under control. You must make an accurate
map of the route.
> It is best to look for traces of your relatives on the crosses and monuments
in the cemetery - it is necessary to know Polish language.
>
> Read on old maps, just as the name of your village. Approximately determine
its location. Then go to Googl, find this place and find out what the name of
this village now.
>
> On Belarus is best to move on the bus - they go on schedule, between large,
medium and small cities and even villages. Then take a taxi in the town and
drive around if it is necessary.
>
> Remember - change the currency in Minsk or another major city. If you are
going to pay on the spot in dollars or euros - a chance to get in, may sit there
with criminals and feel like your family feel in 1939-41.
>
> I'll go to Grodno region in July and August.
> Stan from M.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: "tracey.ashworth@..."
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:35 PM
> Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus
>
>
>  
> Hello,
>
> Through the assistance of the Kresy Siberia group, I have been fortunate in
being on a wonderful journey of discovery - finding out about my Polish
heritage, including meeting up with family members (aunts and cousins) living
right here in New Zealand. I now wish to travel over to Lithuania and Belarus in
June this year in in order to visit my father's birthplace.
>
> The place my father is from is the small village of Radizule which is located
in the province of Hrodzyenskaya Voblasts' in Belarus. We are thinking of making
Vilnius our main stop off as this is the nearest main city.
>
> I would be grateful of anyone has an travel advice for me, as it is proving
somewhat challenging for the travel companies I have been in contact with to
even locate the place!
>
> Has anyone got any advice on how to find a car with driver? Unfortunately,
neither my partner or I speak any Polish or Russian, and so we will require
someone who can speak English.
>
> I am hoping to also try to locate the church and cemetery in Radizule. I am
not sure if it even exists.
>
> Any advice on accommodation also close to Radizule would also be appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tracey Ashworth
> Auckland, New Zealand
>

#54789 From: Stanislaw Zwierzynski <zwierzinski1957@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus
zwierzinski1957
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Dear Tracey!

Your explanation changes the whole thing! If you have accurate maps and even guidance, you can easily reach. I advise to get the bus to the nearest miastecko, and then take a taxi.
Do not forget to walk to the nearest cemetery.
If this place belongs to the Lida area, I recommend go to Lida  local museum - can there find any documents.
Good luck to you!


From: "tracey.ashworth@..." <tracey.ashworth@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus

 
Hello there Stan,

I can understand your concern! The place we wish to travel to is very tiny - virtually unpopulated, and is located in the Wilno area - now Belarus. The nearest main city happens to be Vilnius in Lithuania - Radizule is 50 km away across the border to the East of Vilnius.

My cousin Mary-Anne Morgan visited Radizule four years ago, and we have google map coordinates plus Mary-Anne's handwritten map. I now wish to make the same trip and have been advised that we are best to hire a driver and car as obviously no buses are available, and as you quite rightly point out, the Belarussian authoriies can be a bit sticky!

We plan to base our stay from Vilnius in Lithuania, and will probably only need to be in Belarus for a day.

Regards,

Tracey Ashworth
Auckland, NZ

>




#54790 From: "Mary-Anne Morgan" <ma.morgan@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:31 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus
mamorgan_14
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Dear Stan and Jozef
 
Thank you both for your posts.  Stan your advice about travelling to Radzyule/Radziule is wise.
 
I am pleased to confirm there is indeed a village called Radziule/Radzyule in Belarus.  I visited there in 2008 with a Lithuanian driver and translator.   I found a living relative on the land  who was 78 at the time.  Before their deportation, my family lived there in a village of people related to each other.  I have located their records at the National Historical Archives of Grodno  in Belarus. What remains of the village is very small now and I believe there is a nuclear power plant being built nearby which is changing the area even further. 
 
Kind regards
Mary-Anne
(NZ)
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:25 AM
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus
 
 

Hello Stan,

There were even two hamlets Radziule, both In old powiat of Wilno.

You may look here:

http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_IX/474

Just my dwa grosze J

Józef, Warsaw, Poland

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stanislaw Zwierzynski
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:07 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus

 

Dear Tracey!

Thereis no village Radizule in Belarus. If you do not want to get into a difficult situation and that you are not charged with local authorities (they are very suspicious), that you - New Zealand spies, you have to know exactly where you are going.

Please less optimism and more realism. Belarusians - very nice hospitable people, but very scared, everything is under control. You must make an accurate map of the route.
It is best to look for traces of your relatives on the crosses and monuments in the cemetery - it is necessary to know Polish language.

Read on old maps, just as the name of your village. Approximately determine its location. Then go to Googl, find this place and find out what the name of this village now.

On Belarus is best to move on the bus - they go on schedule, between large, medium and small cities and even villages. Then take a taxi in the town and drive around if it is necessary.

Remember - change the currency in Minsk or another major city. If you are going to pay on the spot in dollars or euros - a chance to get in, may sit there with criminals and feel like your family feel in 1939-41.

I'll go to Grodno region in July and August.
Stan from M.


From: "tracey.ashworth@..." <tracey.ashworth@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:35 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus

 

Hello,

Through the assistance of the Kresy Siberia group, I have been fortunate in being on a wonderful journey of discovery - finding out about my Polish heritage, including meeting up with family members (aunts and cousins) living right here in New Zealand. I now wish to travel over to Lithuania and Belarus in June this year in in order to visit my father's birthplace.

The place my father is from is the small village of Radizule which is located in the province of Hrodzyenskaya Voblasts' in Belarus. We are thinking of making Vilnius our main stop off as this is the nearest main city.

I would be grateful of anyone has an travel advice for me, as it is proving somewhat challenging for the travel companies I have been in contact with to even locate the place!

Has anyone got any advice on how to find a car with driver? Unfortunately, neither my partner or I speak any Polish or Russian, and so we will require someone who can speak English.

I am hoping to also try to locate the church and cemetery in Radizule. I am not sure if it even exists.

Any advice on accommodation also close to Radizule would also be appreciated.

Regards,

Tracey Ashworth
Auckland, New Zealand


#54791 From: "Barbara Scrivens" <scrivs@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:26 am
Subject: spam alert from New Zealand
barbara.scri...
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Dear Group,

 

The ISP provider for New Zealand (Yahoo/Xtra) has had a spam attack and has sent out spam using people’s address books. You may have received something from Aniela Crook. Do not open. She did not send it.

 

Kind regards,

Barbara – Auckland


#54792 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:07 am
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] spam alert from New Zealand
lenardaszymczak
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Barbara, thanks for the heads up

Lenarda, Australia

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Scrivens
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February, 2013 3:27 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] spam alert from New Zealand

 

 

Dear Group,

 

The ISP provider for New Zealand (Yahoo/Xtra) has had a spam attack and has sent out spam using people’s address books. You may have received something from Aniela Crook. Do not open. She did not send it.

 

Kind regards,

Barbara – Auckland


#54793 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:50 am
Subject: Katyn - USA LETTER 23.2.1944
lenardaszymczak
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Hi group I found this on my files, do not remember document being sent to
group
EMBASSY OF TH... E
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Moscow, February 23, 1944
Subject: Investigation by Soviet authorities of the
Massacre of Polish Soldiers in the Katyn
Forest, near Smolensk.
Lenarda, Australia

1 of 1 File(s)


#54794 From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:40 am
Subject: Introducing new member Richard Zajkowsli from Mairinga Bay Auckland New Zealand
helenbitner
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Dear Group
Please welcome new member Richard. His request for details was posted earlier
this month as Lenarda  will remember.  He is trying to organise a trip for his
father,back to Poland, Siberia and Iran. His father is now 80 and wishes to
travel back there before his health will no longer allow such a trip. He was one
of the Pahiatua children.
However, finding information about where they could travel in Siberia is proving
more difficult. His father believes they were located somewhere a little North
of Irkutsk, near Lake Baikal, but that is about all the information he is clear
on.
Richard has read   on the topic, but there is nothing in those books that
narrows down the location the family were in.
Richard asks has for help and information from anyone who has tried to make
similar journeys.
His father came from a village called Lazy, somewhere near Bialystok .
The family members deported included;
Josef Zajkowski (father)
Marianna Zajkowski (mother)
Fabian Zajkowski (half brother)
Eugeniusz Zajkowski (Richard's father)
Another brother
A sister
A baby
Baby and sister died in Siberia
Other brother died in either Siberia or on way to Iran
Marianna (mother) died and buried in Teheran
Jozef and Fabian joined Eugeniusz in Wellington after the war, having fought in
North Africa,  and Monte Cassino.
I wish you every success in your searches Richard and hope that some of our
members will be able to help.
Kind regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester UK




The members  of his family who were deported included;
Josef Zajkowski (father)
Marianna Zajkowski (mother)
Fabian Zajkowski (half brother)
Eugeniusz Zajkowski (his father )
An

#54795 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:20 pm
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Richard Zajkowsli from Mairinga Bay Auckland New Zealand
lenardaszymczak
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Welcome Richard, Siberia is not my research field, but I did find newspaper
Siberian Times with article ROAD OF BONES, which is about two men who
actually did go to Siberia and their documented journey could be of
assistance.

Group, have a look through this Newspaper, with many interesting articles,
including THE ROAD OF BONES, THE KINGDOM OF COLD, all written in very good
English.



http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&v
ed=0CGwQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsiberiantimes.com%2F&ei=4b4WUdajH4ajigfgwoDACQ
&usg=AFQjCNEVtDJGKyOYBhFwYpcAEGn9M0EF2Q&bvm=bv.42080656,d.aGc

warmest regards,
Lenarda, Australia


-----Original Message-----
From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Helen Bitner
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February, 2013 9:40 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Richard Zajkowsli
from Mairinga Bay Auckland New Zealand

Dear Group
Please welcome new member Richard. His request for details was posted
earlier this month as Lenarda  will remember.  He is trying to organise a
trip for his father,back to Poland, Siberia and Iran. His father is now 80
and wishes to travel back there before his health will no longer allow such
a trip. He was one of the Pahiatua children.
However, finding information about where they could travel in Siberia is
proving more difficult. His father believes they were located somewhere a
little North of Irkutsk, near Lake Baikal, but that is about all the
information he is clear on.
Richard has read   on the topic, but there is nothing in those books that
narrows down the location the family were in.
Richard asks has for help and information from anyone who has tried to make
similar journeys.
His father came from a village called Lazy, somewhere near Bialystok .
The family members deported included;
Josef Zajkowski (father)
Marianna Zajkowski (mother)
Fabian Zajkowski (half brother)
Eugeniusz Zajkowski (Richard's father)
Another brother
A sister
A baby
Baby and sister died in Siberia
Other brother died in either Siberia or on way to Iran Marianna (mother)
died and buried in Teheran Jozef and Fabian joined Eugeniusz in Wellington
after the war, having fought in North Africa,  and Monte Cassino.
I wish you every success in your searches Richard and hope that some of our
members will be able to help.
Kind regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester UK




The members  of his family who were deported included; Josef Zajkowski
(father) Marianna Zajkowski (mother) Fabian Zajkowski (half brother)
Eugeniusz Zajkowski (his father ) An

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#54796 From: "sbstnsk" <tsebestianski@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: Introducing new member Richard Zajkowsli from Mairinga Bay Auckland New Zealand
sbstnsk
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Hi Ryszard.
I posted a story in [polish and eng]of my friend jurney to SIBERIA
the place family been sent to
Trd

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Helen Bitner  wrote:
>
> Dear Group
> Please welcome new member Richard. His request for details was posted earlier
this month as Lenarda  will remember.  He is trying to organise a trip for his
father,back to Poland, Siberia and Iran. His father is now 80 and wishes to
travel back there before his health will no longer allow such a trip. He was one
of the Pahiatua children.
> However, finding information about where they could travel in Siberia is
proving more difficult. His father believes they were located somewhere a little
North of Irkutsk, near Lake Baikal, but that is about all the information he is
clear on.
> Richard has read   on the topic, but there is nothing in those books that
narrows down the location the family were in.
> Richard asks has for help and information from anyone who has tried to make
similar journeys.
> His father came from a village called Lazy, somewhere near Bialystok .
> The family members deported included;
> Josef Zajkowski (father)
> Marianna Zajkowski (mother)
> Fabian Zajkowski (half brother)
> Eugeniusz Zajkowski (Richard's father)
> Another brother
> A sister
> A baby
> Baby and sister died in Siberia
> Other brother died in either Siberia or on way to Iran
> Marianna (mother) died and buried in Teheran
> Jozef and Fabian joined Eugeniusz in Wellington after the war, having fought
in North Africa,  and Monte Cassino.
> I wish you every success in your searches Richard and hope that some of our
members will be able to help.
> Kind regards
> Helen Bitner
> Colchester UK
>
>
>
>
> The members  of his family who were deported included;
> Josef Zajkowski (father)
> Marianna Zajkowski (mother)
> Fabian Zajkowski (half brother)
> Eugeniusz Zajkowski (his father )
> An
>

#54797 From: Casimir Majewski <kmaj31@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Tulacze Dzieci - Exiled Children
kmaj31
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Witam,
Tulacze Dzieci- you can get some inf. from:
Pozdrawiam
Cas

From: janinek0902 <janinek@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 12:01 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Tulacze Dzieci - Exiled Children
 
Hello,
I am looking to purchase a copy of the above mentioned book. Would anyone have any leads? I did see the post from 2006 mentioning a person to contact in Warsaw. Is this information still valid? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanking you in advance,
From snowy Oakville,Ontario
Janine Krolewicz


#54798 From: <kms0902@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:46 pm
Subject: Re: new member Richard Zajkowsli
szypowska
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Ted Sebestianski (who posted the message below) omitted to provide a link to the stories that he was referring to.
 
Here are the links to the stories in the Hall of Memories:
 
 
 

Kind regards,

Krystyna Szypowska - Winnipeg, Canada

 

 

 
From: sbstnsk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:26 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Richard Zajkowsli from Mairinga Bay Auckland New Zealand
 

Hi Ryszard.
I posted a story in [polish and eng]of my friend jurney to SIBERIA
the place family been sent to
Ted



--- In mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, Helen Bitner wrote:
>
> Dear Group
> Please welcome new member Richard. His request for details was posted earlier this month as Lenarda will remember. He is trying to organise a trip for his father,back to Poland, Siberia and Iran. His father is now 80 and wishes to travel back there before his health will no longer allow such a trip. He was one of the Pahiatua children.
> However, finding information about where they could travel in Siberia is proving more difficult. His father believes they were located somewhere a little North of Irkutsk, near Lake Baikal, but that is about all the information he is clear on.
> Richard has read on the topic, but there is nothing in those books that narrows down the location the family were in.
> Richard asks has for help and information from anyone who has tried to make similar journeys.
> His father came from a village called Lazy, somewhere near Bialystok .
> The family members deported included;
> Josef Zajkowski (father)
> Marianna Zajkowski (mother)
> Fabian Zajkowski (half brother)
> Eugeniusz Zajkowski (Richard's father)
> Another brother
> A sister
> A baby
> Baby and sister died in Siberia
> Other brother died in either Siberia or on way to Iran
> Marianna (mother) died and buried in Teheran
> Jozef and Fabian joined Eugeniusz in Wellington after the war, having fought in North Africa, and Monte Cassino.
> I wish you every success in your searches Richard and hope that some of our members will be able to help.
> Kind regards
> Helen Bitner
> Colchester UK
>


#54799 From: "tracey.ashworth@..." <tracey.ashworth@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus
tracey.ashwo...
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Dear Stan,

Thank you, the Lida museum looks to be a very good place to visit. I appreciate
your suggestion.

Regards,

Tracey Ashworth
Auckland, NZ

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Stanislaw Zwierzynski  wrote:
>
> Dear Tracey!
>
> Your explanation changes the whole thing! If you have accurate maps and even
guidance, you can easily reach. I advise to get the bus to the nearest
miastecko, and then take a taxi.
> Do not forget to walk to the nearest cemetery.
> If this place belongs to the Lida area, I recommend go to Lida  local museum
- can there find any documents.
> Good luck to you!
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: "tracey.ashworth@..."
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Travel to Belarus
>
>
>  
> Hello there Stan,
>
> I can understand your concern! The place we wish to travel to is very tiny -
virtually unpopulated, and is located in the Wilno area - now Belarus. The
nearest main city happens to be Vilnius in Lithuania - Radizule is 50 km away
across the border to the East of Vilnius.
>
> My cousin Mary-Anne Morgan visited Radizule four years ago, and we have google
map coordinates plus Mary-Anne's handwritten map. I now wish to make the same
trip and have been advised that we are best to hire a driver and car as
obviously no buses are available, and as you quite rightly point out, the
Belarussian authoriies can be a bit sticky!
>
> We plan to base our stay from Vilnius in Lithuania, and will probably only
need to be in Belarus for a day.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tracey Ashworth
> Auckland, NZ
>
> >
>

#54800 From: "buczak22" <nickcrown1986@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:32 pm
Subject: Buczak
buczak22
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Hi! I would like to share some information on my Polish family. My grandfather
Tadeusz Buczak (1922-2004) was sent to Siberia in 1939 and forced to cut down
trees to make ox plows. In 1942 he was released and joined the British army in
Palestine where he met my grandmother. I would be interested to know which
regiment he served in as he was stationed in Scotland but also saw action in
North Africa and Normandy.
His father was called Michal (born sometime in the late 19th century: grandad
said 1884). He lived in eastern Poland and joined the Austrian army during World
War I. He was a soldier in 1939 and disappeared when the Russians invaded,
although his wife Maria Lysak (possibly of Ukrainian descent) survived the war
and died in the 1960s. From what I've read, Lysak is a Jewish name, and although
my grandad was a Christian he knew a few Yiddish words. I don't know if my great
grandfather Michal Buczak was killed in the invasion or died later in Siberia,
although the owner of this website has records of a Private Michal Buczak (born
1897) dying in Uzbekistan in 1942.
http://felsztyn.tripod.com/id20.html

#54801 From: "richardzajkowski" <richard@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:03 pm
Subject: Re: Introducing new member Richard Zajkowsli from Mairinga Bay Auckland New Zealand
richardzajko...
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--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Helen Bitner  wrote:
Thanks Helen,
Appreciate your help with my search for information.

Richard Zajkowski
Mairangi Bay
Auckland
New Zealand
>
> Dear Group
> Please welcome new member Richard. His request for details was posted earlier
this month as Lenarda  will remember.  He is trying to organise a trip for his
father,back to Poland, Siberia and Iran. His father is now 80 and wishes to
travel back there before his health will no longer allow such a trip. He was one
of the Pahiatua children.
> However, finding information about where they could travel in Siberia is
proving more difficult. His father believes they were located somewhere a little
North of Irkutsk, near Lake Baikal, but that is about all the information he is
clear on.
> Richard has read   on the topic, but there is nothing in those books that
narrows down the location the family were in.
> Richard asks has for help and information from anyone who has tried to make
similar journeys.
> His father came from a village called Lazy, somewhere near Bialystok .
> The family members deported included;
> Josef Zajkowski (father)
> Marianna Zajkowski (mother)
> Fabian Zajkowski (half brother)
> Eugeniusz Zajkowski (Richard's father)
> Another brother
> A sister
> A baby
> Baby and sister died in Siberia
> Other brother died in either Siberia or on way to Iran
> Marianna (mother) died and buried in Teheran
> Jozef and Fabian joined Eugeniusz in Wellington after the war, having fought
in North Africa,  and Monte Cassino.
> I wish you every success in your searches Richard and hope that some of our
members will be able to help.
> Kind regards
> Helen Bitner
> Colchester UK
>
>
>
>
> The members  of his family who were deported included;
> Josef Zajkowski (father)
> Marianna Zajkowski (mother)
> Fabian Zajkowski (half brother)
> Eugeniusz Zajkowski (his father )
> An
>

#54802 From: JackieR <jackierz@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:25 pm
Subject: New Member Richard Zajkowski
jackie_rze
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Hi Richard,
Welcome to the group, we have a lot of very knowledgeable members who I am sure will be able to help you in your search. I've made an attempt and checked Karta - as per link. Could one of these be your grandfather?



Zajkowski Jzef Jakub1915Internowani pod Saratowem
Zajkowski JzefMikoaj 1904Aresztowani na Biaorusi i Ukrainie 1939-1941
ZajkowskiJzef Jzef1929 Deportowani w obwodzie woogodzkim
Kind regards,
Jackie Rzepka
Auckland
New Zealand

On 12 February 2013 23:40, Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...> wrote:
Dear Group
Please welcome new member Richard. His request for details was posted earlier this month as Lenarda will remember. He is trying to organise a trip for his father,back to Poland, Siberia and Iran. His father is now 80 and wishes to travel back there before his health will no longer allow such a trip. He was one of the Pahiatua children.
However, finding information about where they could travel in Siberia is proving more difficult. His father believes they were located somewhere a little North of Irkutsk, near Lake Baikal, but that is about all the information he is clear on.
Richard has read on the topic, but there is nothing in those books that narrows down the location the family were in.
Richard asks has for help and information from anyone who has tried to make similar journeys.
His father came from a village called Lazy, somewhere near Bialystok .
The family members deported included;
Josef Zajkowski (father)
Marianna Zajkowski (mother)
Fabian Zajkowski (half brother)
Eugeniusz Zajkowski (Richard's father)
Another brother
A sister
A baby
Baby and sister died in Siberia
Other brother died in either Siberia or on way to Iran
Marianna (mother) died and buried in Teheran
Jozef and Fabian joined Eugeniusz in Wellington after the war, having fought in North Africa, and Monte Cassino.
I wish you every success in your searches Richard and hope that some of our members will be able to help.
Kind regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester UK




The members of his family who were deported included;
Josef Zajkowski (father)
Marianna Zajkowski (mother)
Fabian Zajkowski (half brother)
Eugeniusz Zajkowski (his father )
An

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#54803 From: Stanislaw Zwierzynski <zwierzinski1957@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:46 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Buczak
zwierzinski1957
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If this is some true
 
grandmother
  • Бучек Мария Юзефовна
    Родилась в 1904 г., Львовская губ., Зешовский, с. Голосковичи; поляки; образование Низш.; Проживала: Львовская обл., Пониковецкий, С.Голосковичи.
    Приговор: приб. на спецпоселение в Архангельскую обл. 29.02.40, Котласский р-н, Монастырек. Осв. со спецпоселения по амнистии 08.09.41
    Источник: База данных "Польские спецпереселенцы в Архангельской обл."
  • father
     
  • Бучек Тадеуш Станиславович
    Родился в 1932 г. (1922?), Львовская губ., Зешовский, с. Голосковичи; поляки; Проживал: Львовская обл., Пониковецкий, С.Голосковичи.
    Приговор: приб. на спецпоселение в Архангельскую обл. 29.02.40, Котласский р-н, Монастырек. Осв. со спецпоселения по амнистии 08.09.41
    Источник: База данных "Польские спецпереселенцы в Архангельской обл."
  •  
    there were in Monastyrek 1940-41, where were Elzunia Maczka relativities.
    May be?
    Buczak were from wsi Goloskowiczy, Lwow region in 1939?
     
    Stan from M.

    From: buczak22 <nickcrown1986@...>
    To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:32 PM
    Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Buczak
     
    Hi! I would like to share some information on my Polish family. My grandfather Tadeusz Buczak (1922-2004) was sent to Siberia in 1939 and forced to cut down trees to make ox plows. In 1942 he was released and joined the British army in Palestine where he met my grandmother. I would be interested to know which regiment he served in as he was stationed in Scotland but also saw action in North Africa and Normandy.
    His father was called Michal (born sometime in the late 19th century: grandad said 1884). He lived in eastern Poland and joined the Austrian army during World War I. He was a soldier in 1939 and disappeared when the Russians invaded, although his wife Maria Lysak (possibly of Ukrainian descent) survived the war and died in the 1960s. From what I've read, Lysak is a Jewish name, and although my grandad was a Christian he knew a few Yiddish words. I don't know if my great grandfather Michal Buczak was killed in the invasion or died later in Siberia, although the owner of this website has records of a Private Michal Buczak (born 1897) dying in Uzbekistan in 1942.
    http://felsztyn.tripod.com/id20.html


    #54804 From: Richard Dojs <dickeydojs@...>
    Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:57 pm
    Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Katyn - USA LETTER 23.2.1944 [1 Attachment]
    dickeydojs
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    You should read book "The Eagle unbowed: Poland and the Poles in the second world war".

    Its full of data re the political sides involved in the end of WWI and the moves to end WWII. Especially how they were to react to teh Katyn issue with allies such as Russia. You may wonder if today's political figures have learn't anything from past history.

    Regards
    Ryszard Dojs



    From: Lenarda Szymczak <szymczak01@...>
    To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:50 PM
    Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Katyn - USA LETTER 23.2.1944 [1 Attachment]

     
    Hi group I found this on my files, do not remember document being sent to
    group
    EMBASSY OF TH... E
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
    Moscow, February 23, 1944
    Subject: Investigation by Soviet authorities of the
    Massacre of Polish Soldiers in the Katyn
    Forest, near Smolensk.
    Lenarda, Australia



    #54805 From: "buczak22" <nickcrown1986@...>
    Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:49 pm
    Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Buczak
    buczak22
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    That's interesting Stanislaw. My grandfather lived in eastern Poland before the
    war, so it's possible his father came from what is now Ukraine. It's a pity I
    don't know the names of his parents.
    
    Buchak Michael Antonovich
    
    Born in 1897, Tarnopolsky reg., Skalat district, Kokoshentsy; Poles Lived:
    Tarnopolsky reg., Skalat district, Kokoshentsy.
    Sentence: 10 February 1940
    Sentence: banishment in the Komi ASSR p.Soksya, Priluzskiy borough.
    
    Source: Memory Book of the Komi Republic
    
    --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Stanislaw Zwierzynski  wrote:
    >
    > If this is some true
    > http://lists.memo.ru/d6/f2.htm
    >  
    > grandmother
    >  * `учек Мария Юзефовна
    > Родилась в 1904 г., Львовская губ., Зешовский,
    с. "олосковичи;
    > поляки; образование Низш.; Проживала:
    Львовская обл., Пониковецкий,
    > С."олосковичи.
    > Приговор: приб. на спецпоселение в
    Архангельскую обл.
    > 29.02.40, Котласский р-н, Монастырек. Осв. со
    спецпоселения по амнистии 08.09.41
    > Источник: `аза данных "Польские
    спецпереселенцы в Архангельской
    > обл."
    >  *
    >  * father
    >  
    >  * `учек Тадеуш Станиславович
    > Родился в 1932 г. (1922?), Львовская губ.,
    Зешовский, с. "олосковичи;
    > поляки; Проживал: Львовская обл.,
    Пониковецкий, С."олосковичи.
    > Приговор:
    > приб. на спецпоселение в Архангельскую
    обл. 29.02.40, Котласский р-н,
    > Монастырек. Осв. со спецпоселения по
    амнистии 08.09.41
    > Источник: `аза данных "Польские
    спецпереселенцы в Архангельской
    > обл."
    >  
    > there were in Monastyrek 1940-41, where were Elzunia Maczka relativities.
    > May be?
    > Buczak were from wsi Goloskowiczy, Lwow region in 1939?
    >  
    > Stan from M.
    >
    >
    > ________________________________
    >  From: buczak22
    > To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:32 PM
    > Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Buczak
    >
    >
    >  
    >
    > Hi! I would like to share some information on my Polish family. My grandfather
    Tadeusz Buczak (1922-2004) was sent to Siberia in 1939 and forced to cut down
    trees to make ox plows. In 1942 he was released and joined the British army in
    Palestine where he met my grandmother. I would be interested to know which
    regiment he served in as he was stationed in Scotland but also saw action in
    North Africa and Normandy.
    > His father was called Michal (born sometime in the late 19th century: grandad
    said 1884). He lived in eastern Poland and joined the Austrian army during World
    War I. He was a soldier in 1939 and disappeared when the Russians invaded,
    although his wife Maria Lysak (possibly of Ukrainian descent) survived the war
    and died in the 1960s. From what I've read, Lysak is a Jewish name, and although
    my grandad was a Christian he knew a few Yiddish words. I don't know if my great
    grandfather Michal Buczak was killed in the invasion or died later in Siberia,
    although the owner of this website has records of a Private Michal Buczak (born
    1897) dying in Uzbekistan in 1942.
    > http://felsztyn.tripod.com/id20.html
    >

    #54806 From: "sbstnsk" <tsebestianski@...>
    Date: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:44 am
    Subject: Re: Buczak
    sbstnsk
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    Hi Michael...
    Just chek the names from that Russian page...yours Grand parents lived at
    Listopadowka  almost on my doorsteps.
    Some of them used to live in england after the war.
    Tadeusz
    
    --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "buczak22"  wrote:
    >
    > That's interesting Stanislaw. My grandfather lived in eastern Poland before
    the war, so it's possible his father came from what is now Ukraine. It's a pity
    I don't know the names of his parents.
    >
    > Buchak Michael Antonovich
    >
    > Born in 1897, Tarnopolsky reg., Skalat district, Kokoshentsy; Poles Lived:
    Tarnopolsky reg., Skalat district, Kokoshentsy.
    > Sentence: 10 February 1940
    > Sentence: banishment in the Komi ASSR p.Soksya, Priluzskiy borough.
    >
    > Source: Memory Book of the Komi Republic
    >
    > --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Stanislaw Zwierzynski  wrote:
    > >
    > > If this is some true
    > > http://lists.memo.ru/d6/f2.htm
    > >  
    > > grandmother
    > >  * `учек Мария Юзефовна
    > > Родилась в 1904 г., Львовская губ.,
    Зешовский, с. "олосковичи;
    > > поляки; образование Низш.; Проживала:
    Львовская обл., Пониковецкий,
    > > С."олосковичи.
    > > Приговор: приб. на спецпоселение в
    Архангельскую обл.
    > > 29.02.40, Котласский р-н, Монастырек. Осв. со
    спецпоселения по амнистии 08.09.41
    > > Источник: `аза данных "Польские
    спецпереселенцы в Архангельской
    > > обл."
    > >  *
    > >  * father
    > >  
    > >  * `учек Тадеуш Станиславович
    > > Родился в 1932 г. (1922?), Львовская губ.,
    Зешовский, с. "олосковичи;
    > > поляки; Проживал: Львовская обл.,
    Пониковецкий, С."олосковичи.
    > > Приговор:
    > > приб. на спецпоселение в Архангельскую
    обл. 29.02.40, Котласский р-н,
    > > Монастырек. Осв. со спецпоселения по
    амнистии 08.09.41
    > > Источник: `аза данных "Польские
    спецпереселенцы в Архангельской
    > > обл."
    > >  
    > > there were in Monastyrek 1940-41, where were Elzunia Maczka relativities.
    > > May be?
    > > Buczak were from wsi Goloskowiczy, Lwow region in 1939?
    > >  
    > > Stan from M.
    > >
    > >
    > > ________________________________
    > >  From: buczak22
    > > To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
    > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:32 PM
    > > Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Buczak
    > >
    > >
    > >  
    > >
    > > Hi! I would like to share some information on my Polish family. My
    grandfather Tadeusz Buczak (1922-2004) was sent to Siberia in 1939 and forced to
    cut down trees to make ox plows. In 1942 he was released and joined the British
    army in Palestine where he met my grandmother. I would be interested to know
    which regiment he served in as he was stationed in Scotland but also saw action
    in North Africa and Normandy.
    > > His father was called Michal (born sometime in the late 19th century:
    grandad said 1884). He lived in eastern Poland and joined the Austrian army
    during World War I. He was a soldier in 1939 and disappeared when the Russians
    invaded, although his wife Maria Lysak (possibly of Ukrainian descent) survived
    the war and died in the 1960s. From what I've read, Lysak is a Jewish name, and
    although my grandad was a Christian he knew a few Yiddish words. I don't know if
    my great grandfather Michal Buczak was killed in the invasion or died later in
    Siberia, although the owner of this website has records of a Private Michal
    Buczak (born 1897) dying in Uzbekistan in 1942.
    > > http://felsztyn.tripod.com/id20.html
    > >
    >

    #54807 From: "danutakelly" <cradia@...>
    Date: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:22 am
    Subject: Re: Buczak
    danutakelly
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    Hit
    Try MOD in UK.  My Father joined Polish Army in Tashkent and was discharged in
    Iran due to health issues.  I contacted MOD and was surprised with what I
    received
    Danuta Kelly
    Klysz - Kukizow, Lwow
    
    --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "buczak22"  wrote:
    >
    > Hi! I would like to share some information on my Polish family. My grandfather
    Tadeusz Buczak (1922-2004) was sent to Siberia in 1939 and forced to cut down
    trees to make ox plows. In 1942 he was released and joined the British army in
    Palestine where he met my grandmother. I would be interested to know which
    regiment he served in as he was stationed in Scotland but also saw action in
    North Africa and Normandy.
    > His father was called Michal (born sometime in the late 19th century: grandad
    said 1884). He lived in eastern Poland and joined the Austrian army during World
    War I. He was a soldier in 1939 and disappeared when the Russians invaded,
    although his wife Maria Lysak (possibly of Ukrainian descent) survived the war
    and died in the 1960s. From what I've read, Lysak is a Jewish name, and although
    my grandad was a Christian he knew a few Yiddish words. I don't know if my great
    grandfather Michal Buczak was killed in the invasion or died later in Siberia,
    although the owner of this website has records of a Private Michal Buczak (born
    1897) dying in Uzbekistan in 1942.
    > http://felsztyn.tripod.com/id20.html
    >

    #54808 From: "Steve Szewczuk" <sszewczuk@...>
    Date: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:07 am
    Subject: Surviving tropical diseases in East African camps
    stefan.szewczuk
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    Dear All
     
    This may seem an odd request from South Africa. Discussing with colleagues the tropical diseases, malaria, yellow fever, etc, found in countries such as Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania and the various treatments that are available my thoughts went out to the thousands of Polish children who found refuge in the various camps in this part of the world. A colleague who was in the hospitality industry mentioned that malaria in Arusha, Tanzania (where one of the larger camps,Tengeru, is located) is particularly bad.
     
    Is anyone able to provide insight into how tropical diseases were managed in the various Polish camps in East Africa.
     
    Regards
    Stefan S
    Johannesburg
    South Africa
     

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    #54809 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
    Date: Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:43 am
    Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Surviving tropical diseases in East African camps
    lenardaszymczak
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    Stefan S,

    My mother in law, Cecylia Wiktorowicz missed the boat to England because she came down with second attack of Malaria and Typhoid in the Tengeru camp and they would not release her until she was well again to travel, but she never fully recovered and was sick on and off for the rest of her life.

     

    This also caused a family tragedy as when she finally arrived in England, her brothers and sisters sailed out that same night to Vancouver, Canada and they passed each other without knowing who was on board each ship.

     

    After this they lost contact, until many years later, after Cecylia Szymczak nee Wiktorowicz, married in England and her younger brother Czeslaw Wiktorowicz, immigrated to Australia.  It was only after her funeral that the two families, from Australia and Canada, came together.

    Regards,

    Lenarda Szymczak

    Sydney, Australia

     

     

    From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Szewczuk
    Sent: Wednesday, 13 February, 2013 2:08 PM
    To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Surviving tropical diseases in East African camps

     

     

    Dear All

     

    This may seem an odd request from South Africa. Discussing with colleagues the tropical diseases, malaria, yellow fever, etc, found in countries such as Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania and the various treatments that are available my thoughts went out to the thousands of Polish children who found refuge in the various camps in this part of the world. A colleague who was in the hospitality industry mentioned that malaria in Arusha, Tanzania (where one of the larger camps,Tengeru, is located) is particularly bad.

     

    Is anyone able to provide insight into how tropical diseases were managed in the various Polish camps in East Africa.

     

    Regards

    Stefan S

    Johannesburg

    South Africa

     


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