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#54280 From: Józef Taran <jozef.taran@...>
Date: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:04 pm
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому
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Hello Richard,

 

Most important info is that Ministry of Interior (Wnutriennych Diel) of Komi Republic informs you that they need a copy of your pass certified by public notory, court sentence of Eugeniusz rehabilitation and documents proving your relationship to Eugeniusz. They also informed you that your request was sent to the archives to conduct the further query.

 

The second letter – from Russian Embassy in USA mentions that they send to you the letter from MVD of Komi Republic.

 

Forgive me my English

 

Best

Józef, Warsaw, Poland


#54281 From: Richard Kozlowski <r52302@...>
Date: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] вниманию РКозловскому
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Dziękuję panie Józef!  Rich K, USA

On Jan 15, 2013, at 1:04 PM,  Taran wrote:

 

Hello Richard,

 

Most important info is that Ministry of Interior (Wnutriennych Diel) of Komi Republic informs you that they need a copy of your pass certified by public notory, court sentence of Eugeniusz rehabilitation and documents proving your relationship to Eugeniusz. They also informed you that your request was sent to the archives to conduct the further query.

 

The second letter â•„ from Russian Embassy in USA mentions that they send to you the letter from MVD of Komi Republic.

 

Forgive me my English

 

Best

JÓzef, Warsaw, Poland




#54282 From: Mark <turkiewiczm@...>
Date: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] "Mark"...z obozu w Ostaszkowie do Kalinina nr 058/2 z maja 1940
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Thank you, always helpful Hania.
I will be translating this bit by bit as Google allows. 
I also now realize that I mistook a blurry list '56' on Rafal's site that is really list '58'. so my idea of 2 lists numbered #56 is wrong.
 
 
 
 
Mark T.
Canada
From: Anne Kaczanowski <kazameena@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:46:23 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] "Mark"...z obozu w Ostaszkowie do Kalinina nr 058/2 z maja 1940
 
Mark have you seen this before?
 
z obozu w Ostaszkowie do Kalinina nr 058/2 z maja 1940
 
 
hania

From: rafal_zawadzki <rafal_zawadzki@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:02:07 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Rafal Zawadzki from Lbiska, Poland
 
Hi Mark! See a link below: http://www.krzemieniewo.net/viewpage.php?page_id=288 at the bottom you'll find such a list dated May 1940. I will try to skan "my" list dated 20th of April 1940 and send to you soon. Rafal --- In mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, Mark wrote: > > Thanks Rafal. > I havent had any luck finding the source of your document but continue trying. > I would love to see a scan of it. >   > > Mark T. > Canada > > > ________________________________ > From: rafal_zawadzki > To: mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:16:01 AM > Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Rafal Zawadzki from Lbiska, Poland > > >   > > Hi! Mark, > > When Stefan and his family "disapeared" in 1939/1940 and in April 1943 Germans anounced that they had found the massive graves od Polish officers in Katyn forest, my grandpa started to think that his brother was killed by Soviets. After II w.w. he couldn't even talk about it as Soviet system had invaided Poland. When in late 90-s of XX century I reacted to the advertisment that I described before, I was continuing thinking of my grandpa - Stefan had to be among the policemen murdered in Tver and he unfortunatly was. > > Rafal > > --- In mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, Mark wrote: > > > > Wow! > > At that time, were you aware of the details of his eventual fate? > > > > Mark T. > > Canada > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: rafal_zawadzki > > To: mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:40:17 AM > > Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Rafal Zawadzki from Lbiska, Poland > > > > > >   > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > Actually I got "my" list about 10 years ago from Polish Ministry of Domestic Cases (sorry - it's my translation). As I remember some Polish politician went to Moscow and got some papers from Russian archives. There was an advertisment on TV and everybody who wanted to, were able to check if there is any interesting name in the papers. I waited in a que for several hours, but after that I got a copy of one document where name of my relative Stefan Zawadzki occured. It was a list dated 20th of Apr 1940 addressed to the head of Ostashkov special camp. There was an order to send specified POWs to Kalinin (now Tver) NKWD. > > > > I don't know if the lists are publicated anywhere, but I'll look for them and let you know if they are or if you may get them from any authorities in Poland. > > > > Thank you for your support > > > > Rafal > > > > --- In mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, Mark wrote: > > > > > > Hi Rafal, > > > Where did you see that dated list of POW transfers? > > > I would be grateful to learn of such lists. > > > Thanks > > > > > > Mark T. > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: rafal_zawadzki > > > To: mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:05:54 AM > > > Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Rafal Zawadzki from Lbiska, Poland > > > > > > > > >   > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All of You, > > > > > > Thank you very much for your support and help. > > > > > > Krystyna's father is No 11731 on the list below. His name is on the 20th of April 1940 list of "POWs" sent from Ostaszkov lager to Tver, so he was murdered some days after this date. > > > > > > Rafal > > > > > > --- In mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, Mark wrote: > > > > > > > > Here are the Zawadzka's from the 4 Katyn lists. Sorry for the format. > > > > 8988 Zawadzki BolesÃÆ'…‚aw s. MichaÃÆ'…‚a St. przod. PP 1898 Twer > > > > 8989 Zawadzki WÃÆ'…‚odzimierz s. MichaÃÆ'…‚a St. przod. PP 1900 Twer > > > > 11730 Zawadzki BronisÃÆ'…‚aw s. Marcelego St. przod. PP 1900 Twer > > > > 11731 Zawadzki Stefan s. StanisÃÆ'…‚awa St. przod. PP 1906 Twer > > > > 13767 Zawadzki Aleksander s. Franciszka post PP 1897 Twer > > > > 13768 Zawadzki JÃÆ'Æ'³zef s. Jana post PP 1909 Twer > > > > 1060 zawadzki michal michala 1883 43 2 64 > > > > 7951 Zawadzki Jan s. JÃÆ'Æ'³zefa ppor r. 1910 ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â  CharkÃÆ'Æ'³w Charkow > > > > 4196 Zawadzki JÃÆ'Æ'³zef s. Antoniego por r. 1898 ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â  KatyÃÆ'…„ Katyn > > > > 2171 Zawadzki Marian s. Walentego kpt r. 1879 ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â  KatyÃÆ'…„ Katyn > > > > 4197 Zawadzki StanisÃÆ'…‚aw s. Aleksandra por r. 1903 ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â  KatyÃÆ'…„ Katyn > > > > 8428 Zawadzki Tadeusz s. Wincentego pchor r. 1916 ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â  KatyÃÆ'…„ Katyn > > > > 7952 Zawadzki Teofil s. Andrzeja ppor r. 1892 ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â  KatyÃÆ'…„ Katyn > > > > > > > > Mark T. > > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Helen Bitner > > > > To: "mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com" > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 9:50:19 AM > > > > Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Rafal Zawadzki from Lbiska, Poland > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚  > > > > > > > > Dear Group > > > > Please welcome new member Rafal who is researching for his aunt Krystyna Zawadzka born in Kovel (former Poland, now Ukraine) on 15th of Feb 1937. She was a daughter of Stefan and Rozalia. Stefan was a brother of Rafal's grandfather and he was a State Policeman, arrested by the Soviet NKWD in Sept 1939, then imprisoned in Ostaschkov lager and finally murdered at the end of April 1940 in Tver (USSR). His body is buried in a massive grave together with more than 6,000 other bodies of Polish policemen, prison guards, clerks etc. in Miednoye (now Russia). > > > > > > > > Rafal's family know about Stefan's fate due to some documents released by Russia some years ago, but they don't have any information about his wife Rozalia and their daughter Krystyna, with whom the contact was broken about 1939/1940. It was thought, they were taken to Siberia like other members of policemen's families and probably lost there. > > > > > > > > Two days ago Rafal received from the Polish Red Cross information that a Krystyna Zawadzka born 1937, a Polish orphan, arrived in Canada in 1949. and eventually settled in the United Kingdom. Rafal thinks this is perhaps another Krystyna Zawadzka because she was born in 1937? However if there is any probability that she is their family member who was lost 70 years ago the Zawadzki family would be overjoyed. > > > > > > > > Rafal, we do have a Krystyna Zawadzka on our Wall Of Names in the Kresy-Siberia Virtual Museum but there is little information other than she was a refugee in India and born in 1937. > > > > My very best wishes for success in your researches > > > > Kind regards > > > > Helen Bitner > > > > Colchester > > > > UK > > > > > > > > > >

#54283 From: Krystyna Mew <krystynamew@...>
Date: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'
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Helen, I have just finished reading your husband's story.  I was very moved.  You've done a wonderful job.  It must have been very difficult for you. Thank you for sharing.  Your children and grandchildren are very lucky to have this.
Krystyna Mew
France



From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 8:59 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'

 
Dear Group,
I joined the group when I needed some  background information while writing about my late husband's  life in Kresy, then Kazakhstan, Guzo, Paklevi  Teheran, Camp Barbara,  then Foxley. London,  and Plymouth in England.  Now the  final version in memory of Ryszard Bitner-Glindzicz is completed and Krystyna has uploaded it  to the  Museum Hall of Memories.  The link is below.

Regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester UK


 http://kresy-siberia.org/hom/element/richard-bitner-glindzicz-2/richards-story/



#54284 From: Mark <turkiewiczm@...>
Date: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:47 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'
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What a nice job Helen, congratulations!
 
Mark T.
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From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
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Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 2:59:33 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'
 
Dear Group,
I joined the group when I needed some  background information while writing about my late husband's  life in Kresy, then Kazakhstan, Guzo, Paklevi  Teheran, Camp Barbara,  then Foxley. London,  and Plymouth in England.  Now the  final version in memory of Ryszard Bitner-Glindzicz is completed and Krystyna has uploaded it  to the  Museum Hall of Memories.  The link is below.

Regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester UK



#54285 From: "Lenarda Szymczak" <szymczak01@...>
Date: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:28 pm
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'
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Helen, excellent work, what a remarkable man Ryszard/Richard must have been and now you have preserved his memory for his Grandchildren and thereafter.  Well done.

Lenarda, Australia

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, 16 January, 2013 7:47 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'

 

 

What a nice job Helen, congratulations!

 

Mark T.
Canada

From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 2:59:33 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'

 

Dear Group,

I joined the group when I needed some  background information while writing about my late husband's  life in Kresy, then Kazakhstan, Guzo, Paklevi  Teheran, Camp Barbara,  then Foxley. London,  and Plymouth in England.  Now the  final version in memory of Ryszard Bitner-Glindzicz is completed and Krystyna has uploaded it  to the  Museum Hall of Memories.  The link is below.

 

Regards

Helen Bitner

Colchester UK

 

 


#54286 From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
Date: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'
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Thank you Krystyna, Lenarda and Mark. I do appreciate your kind words.
Actually writing the story helped me to come to terms with Richard's death but when I finished I had to ask 'what now?' He talked all the time to the family about Kazakhstan and school and had a wonderful memory. He recorded the deportation chapters on tape and edited the written chapters himself. The tapes will also will have a place in the K-S VM.
I'm looking forward to meeting up for the lecture Krystyna 
  .
Helen Bitner UK


On 15 Jan 2013, at 20:26, Krystyna Mew <krystynamew@...> wrote:



#54287 From: Maria Szonert <mszonert@...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:32 am
Subject: Dzien Pamieci Meczenstwa Kresow
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#54288 From: Mark <turkiewiczm@...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:04 am
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'
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Helen, i understand the "what now" you feel. When I hit the wall and feel like I cant do anymore, I have the same question. Be proud you completed the story, the legend and the permanent record for those interested to find. I am  actually envious.
 
Mark T.
Canada
From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:44:52 PM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'
 
Thank you Krystyna, Lenarda and Mark. I do appreciate your kind words.
Actually writing the story helped me to come to terms with Richard's death but when I finished I had to ask 'what now?' He talked all the time to the family about Kazakhstan and school and had a wonderful memory. He recorded the deportation chapters on tape and edited the written chapters himself. The tapes will also will have a place in the K-S VM.
I'm looking forward to meeting up for the lecture Krystyna 
  .
Helen Bitner UK

On 15 Jan 2013, at 20:26, Krystyna Mew <krystynamew@...> wrote:

#54289 From: "Lucyna Artymiuk" <lucynaartymiuk@...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:20 am
Subject: Iran and the Polish Exodus from Russia 1942
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http://www.parstimes.com/history/polish_refugees/exodus_russia.html

 

 

 

Iran and the Polish Exodus from Russia 1942

By: Ryszard Antolak

Exhausted by hard labour, disease and starvation - barely recognizable as human beings - we disembarked at the port of Pahlavi (Anzali). There, we knelt down together in our thousands along the sandy shoreline to kiss the soil of Persia. We had escaped Siberia, and were free at last. We had reached our longed-for Promised Land.- Helena Woloch.

In Tehran's Dulab cemetery, situated in a rundown area of the city, are the graves of thousands of Polish men, women and children. It is not the only such cemetery in Iran, but it is the largest and most well-known. All of the gravestones, row upon row of them, bear the same date: 1942.

In that year, Iran stood as a beacon of freedom and hope for almost a million Polish citizens released from the Soviet labour camps of Siberia and Kazakhstan. After enduring terrible conditions travelling across Russia, 115,000 of them were eventually allowed to enter Iran. Most of them went on to join the allied armies in the Middle East. The rest (mostly women and children) remained guests of Iran for up to three years, their lives totally transformed in the process. They never forgot the debt they owed to the country that had so generously opened its doors to them. Their reminiscences, as well as the many graves left behind in Tehran, Anzali and Ahvaz, are testimony to a chapter of Iranian history almost erased from the public memory.

*From Poland to Iran*
In 1939, the Soviet Union had participated with Nazi Germany in the invasion and partition of Poland. In the months that followed, the Soviets began a policy of ethnic cleansing in the area to weed out what they called socially dangerous and anti-soviet elements. As a result, an estimated 1.5 million civilians were forcibly expelled from their homes in the course of four mass deportations. Thrust at gunpoint into cattle trucks, they were transported to remote labour camps all over Siberia and Kazakhstan.[1]

Their fate was completely changed in June 1941 when Germany unexpectedly attacked Russia. In need of as many allies it could find, Russia agreed to release all the Polish citizens it held in captivity.[2] Shortly afterwards, provision was also made for the creation of an army from these newly-freed prisoners. It was to be commanded by General Wladyslaw Anders, recently released from the Lubyanka prison in Moscow. Stalin intended to mobilize this new army immediately against the Germans in the West; but Anders persuaded him to hold back until the Poles had recovered their health and strength after two years of exhaustion in the labour camps.

pt onwards by the rumours that Stalin was about to allow some of them to leave his Soviet Paradise , these former prisoners of the Gulag system began a desperate journey southwards, some of them on foot, to reach the reception camps set up for them on the borders of Iran and Afghanistan. They travelled thousands of miles from their places of exile in the most distant regions of the Soviet Union. It was an exodus of biblical proportions in terrible conditions. Many froze to death on the journey or starved. Others kept themselves alive by selling whatever personal objects they had been fortunate enough to have brought with them. Exhausted mothers, unable to walk any further, placed their children into the arms of strangers to save them from certain death.[3]

Arrived at the army reception camps in Tashkent, Kermine, Samarkand and Ashkhabad, the refugees attempted to enlist in the Polish army, for hich the Soviets had allocated some food and provisions. There was nothing, however, for the hundreds of thousands of hungry civilians, mostly women and children, who were camped outside the military bases. nstead of increasing provisions to the camps, the Soviets actually cut them. In response, the Polish army enlisted as many of the civilians as they could into its ranks, even children (regardless of age or sex) to save them from starvation. In the baking heat, dysentery, typhus, and scarlet fever became rampant. Communal graves in Uzbekistan could not keep up with the numbers who were dying. By 1942, only half of the 1.7 million Polish citizens arrested by the Soviets at the start of the war were still alive.

Their salvation finally came when Stalin was persuaded to evacuate a fraction of the Polish forces to Iran. A small number of civilians were allowed to accompany them. The rest had no option but to remain behind and face their fate as Soviet citizens.

Pahlavi*
The evacuation of Polish nationals from the Soviet Union took place by sea from Krasnovodsk to Pahlavi (Anzali), and (to a lesser extent) overland from Ashkabad to Mashhad. It was conducted in two phases: between 24 March and 5 April; and between the 10th and 30th of August 1942. In all, 115,000 people were evacuated, 37,000 of them civilians, 18,000 children (7% of the number of Polish citizens originally exiled to the Soviet Union).

A makeshift city comprising over 2000 tents (provided by the Iranian army) was hastily erected along the shoreline of Pahlavi to accommodate the refugees. It stretched for several miles on either side of the lagoon: a vast complex of bathhouses, latrines, disinfection booths, laundries, sleeping quarters, bakeries and a hospital. Every unoccupied house in the city was requisitioned, every chair appropriated from local cinemas. Nevertheless, the facilities were still inadequate.

The Iranian and British officials who first watched the Soviet oil tankers and coal ships list into the harbour at Pahlavi on the 25th March 1942 had little idea how many people to expect or what physical state they might be in. Only a few days earlier, they had been alarmed to hear that civilians, women and children, were to be included among the evacuees, something for which they were totally unprepared.[4] The ships from Krasnovodsk were grossly overcrowded. Every available space on board was filled with passengers. Some of them were little more than walking skeletons covered in rags and lice. Holding fiercely to their precious bundles of possessions, they disembarked in their thousands at Pahlavi and kissed the soil of Persia. Many of them sat down on the shoreline and prayed, or wept for joy. They were free at last!

They had not quite escaped, however. Weakened by two years of starvation, hard labour and disease, they were suffering from a variety of conditions including exhaustion, dysentery, malaria, typhus, skin infections, chicken blindness and itching scabs. General Esfandiari, appointed by the Iranians to oversee the evacuation, met with his Polish and British counterparts to discuss how to tackle the spread of Typhus, the most serious issue facing them.

It was decided to divide the reception area into two parts: an infected area and a clean area, separated from each other by a barbed wire fence. On arrival, those who were suspected of having infectious diseases were quarantined in the closed section for four days, or else sent to the camp hospital. 40% of patients admitted to the hospital were suffering from typhus. Most of these died within a month or two of arriving. At this time there were only 10 doctors and 25 nurses in the whole of Pahlavi.

In the clean area, the arrivals were channelled into a series of tents where their clothes were collected and burned. They were then showered, deloused, and some of them had their heads shaved in the interests of hygiene. As a result, women began to wear headscarves to conceal their baldness. Finally, they were given sheets, blankets and fresh clothes by the Red Cross and directed to living quarters.

Food provision was inappropriate. Corned beef, fatty soup and lamb, distributed by the British soldiers, caused havoc with digestions accustomed only to small pieces of dry bread. They could not tolerate the rich food, and a large number died purely from the results of over-eating.

Beggarly, unwell and dishevelled, the Polish refugees were nourished more by the smiles and generosity of the Iranian people than by the food dished out by British and Indian soldiers. Iran at that time was going through one of the unhappier episodes of her history. Occupied by the Russians and the British, her relations with the soldiers of these two countries were understandably strained and difficult. With the Poles, however, there was an immediate affinity which was evident from the moment they arrived and which extended from the lowest to the highest levels of society.

On 11th April 1942 Josef Zajac, chief of Polish forces in the Middle East, noted in his diary on a visit to Tehran that the Persian population were better disposed to them than either the British or the White Russian migrs (who were distinctly hostile). His relationship with the Iranian Minister of War, Aminollah Jahanbani (released a year earlier from prison for plotting against Shah Reza Pahlavi), was genuinely friendly and cordial. During the course of their discussions together on 13th April 1942, they discovered that they had been students together at the same French military academy.[5] Personal friendships such as these further smoothed relations between the two populations. Contacts between Polish and Persian soldiers were equally cordial. The custom of Polish soldiers saluting Persian officers on the streets sprang up spontaneously, and did not go unnoticed by the Iranians.

*Isfahan: The City Of Polish Children*
Washed up in the detritus of evacuees arriving at Pahlavi had been over 18,000 children of all ages and sexes (mostly girls).[6] Not all of them were orphans. Some had been separated from their families during the long journey through Russia. Their condition was especially desperate. Many were painfully emaciated and malnourished. Orphanages were set up in immediately in Pahlavi, Tehran and Ahvaz to deal with them as a matter of urgency.

The first major orphanage to be opened was situated in Mashhad, and was run by an order of Christian nuns. It opened its doors on March 12 1942. The children at this home were predominantly those transported over the border from Ashkabad by trucks.

Eventually, however, Isfahan was chosen as the main centre for the care of Polish orphans, particularly those who were under the age of seven. They began arriving there on 10th April 1942. It was believed that in the pleasant surroundings and salutary air of this beautiful city, they would have a better chance of recovering their physical and mental health.

Iranian civil authorities and certain private individuals vacated premises to accommodate the children. Schools, hospitals and social organizations sprang up quickly all over the city to cater for the growing colony. The new Shah took especial interest in the Polish children of Isfahan. He allowed them the use of his swimming pool, and invited groups of them to his palace for dinner. In time, some of the children began to learn Farsi and were able to recite Persian poems to a delegation of Iranian officials who visited the city. At its peak, twenty-four areas of the city were allocated to the orphans. As a result, Isfahan became known ever after in Polish migr circles as The City of Polish Children.

*Exile in Iran*
The refugees remained in Pahlavi for a period of a few days to several months before being transferred to other, more permanent camps in Tehran, Mashhad, and Ahvaz. Tehran possessed the greatest number of camps. A constant stream of trucks transported the exiles by awkward twisted roads from the Caspian to Quazvin, where they were put up for the night on school floors, before continuing their journey next morning to the capital.

Tehran s five transit camps, one army and four civilian, were situated in various parts of the metropolitan area. Once again, certain Iranian authorities and individuals volunteered buildings (even sports stadiums and swimming baths) for the exclusive use of the refugees. Camp No.2, however, (the largest) was nothing more than a collection of tents outside the city. Camp No. 4, was a deserted munitions factory. No. 3 was situated in the Shah s own garden, surrounded by flowing water and beautiful trees There was also a Polish hospital in the city, a hostel for the elderly, an orphanage (run by the Sisters of Nazareth) and a convalescent home for sick children (Camp No. 5) situated in Shemiran.

Most able-bodied men (and women) of military age enlisted forthwith in the army and were assigned to military camps. Their stay in Iran was a short one. The army was quickly evacuated to Lebanon and included in the Polish forces being reformed there. Their route to Lebanon was either overland from Kermanshah (6 rest stations were set up for them along the way to Latrun), or by ship from the southern port of Ahvaz. The remainder women, children and men over the age of military service - remained behind in Iran, some of them for periods up to three years.

Something more than food and clothing are necessary for the human spirit to survive and grow. Art and Culture are antibodies to feelings of despondency and decay, and within a few months of their arrival, the exiles had set up their own theatres, art galleries, study circles, and radio stations all over the city. Artists and craftsmen began to give exhibitions. Polish newspapers began to spring up; and restaurants began to display Polish flags on the streets.

Among the organizations formed to care for the educational and cultural needs of the exiles was the influential Institute of Iranian Studies begun by a small group of Polish academicians.[7] In three years from 1943 to 1945 this group published three scholarly volumes and scores of other articles on Polish-Iranian affairs. Most of the material was later translated into Farsi and published under the title Lahestan.

By 1944, however, Iran was already emptying of Poles. They were leaving for other D.P camps in places such as Tanganyika, Mexico, India, New Zealand and the UK. Their main exit route was Ahvaz, where an area of the city still called Campolu today, is a distant echo of its original name Camp Polonia. Mashhad s last children left on the 10 June 1944. Ahvaz finally closed its camp doors in June 1945. The last transport of orphans left Isfahan for Lebanon on the 12 October 1945.

*What Remains*
The deepest imprint of the Polish sojourn in Iran can be found in the memoirs and narratives of those who lived through it. The debt and gratitude felt by the exiles towards their host country echoes warmly throughout all the literature. The kindness and sympathy of the ordinary Iranian population towards the Poles is everywhere spoken of.[8]

The Poles took away with them a lasting memory of freedom and friendliness, something most of them would not know again for a very long time. For few of the evacuees who passed through Iran during the years 1942 1945 would ever to see their homeland again. By a cruel twist of fate, their political destiny was sealed in Tehran in 1943. In November of that year, the leaders of Russia, Britain and the USA met in the Iranian capital to decide the fate of Post-war Europe. During their discussions (which were held in secret), it was decided to assign Poland to the zone of influence of the Soviet Union after the war. It would lose both its independence and its territorial integrity. The eastern part of the country, from which the exiles to Iran had been originally expelled, would be incorporated wholesale into the Soviet Union. The Polish government was not informed of the decision until years later, and felt understandably betrayed. 48,000 Polish soldiers would lose their lives fighting for the freedom of the very nations whose governments had secretly betrayed them in Tehran, and later (in 1945) in Yalta.[9]




*Footnotes:*

  1. 1. There were four mass deportations of the civilian population of
     eastern Poland in 1940/41 alone:
     a) 10 Feb 1940. 250,000 from rural areas sent to Siberia in 110
     cattle trains.
     b) 13 April 1940. 300,000, mostly women & children 160 trains)
     mostly to Kazakhstan and Altai Kraj.
     c) June/July 1940. 400,000 to Archangielsk, Sverdlovsk,
     Novosibirsk etc.
     d) June 1941. 280,000 to various part of USSR.
     Some 500,000 Poles had also been arrested by the Soviets between
     1939 and 1941, mostly the government officials, judges teachers
     lawyers, intellectuals, writers etc. So the total of 1.7 million
     Poles were in captivity in the Soviet Union.
  2. Under an agreement signed on 30th July 1941 by the Polish premier,
     General Sikorski and the Russian representative I. Mayski, Russia
     agreed to release all the Poles who had been arrested under what
     was termed an amnesty . The word amnesty was extremely ill-chosen.
     The amnesty was signed in London in the presence of Winston
     Churchill and Anthony Eden.
  3. Although the amnesty was announced in July, the news did not
     filter through to many of the remoter camps of eastern Siberia
     until December. For others, the news never reached them at all,
     and they remained in Russia.
  4. General Anders himself took the responsibility to evacuate the
     civilians before he had even discussed it with the British.
  5. They had studied at the Ecole Superieure de Guerre in Paris.
     General Anders, who visited Jahanbani in Teheran a few months
     later, was also a graduate of this school.
  6. On Jan 6 1943, the Polish embassy was told to close all 400 of its
     welfare agencies on Russian soil (including orphanages and
     hospitals). Two months later, all Polish citizens remaining on
     Russian soil were deemed to be Soviet citizens.
  7. The president was Stanislaw Koscialkowski.
  8. The word "kish-mish" passed into the vocabulary of the survivors.
     Many Polish boys were named Dariusz, still extremely popular as a
     boy s name in Poland today.
  9. Polish soldiers were not even allowed to participate in the
     multi-national Victory parade in London in 1945.



*References:*

  1. Faruqi, Anwar. Forgotten Polish Exodus to Iran. Washington Post.
     
23 Nov 2000.
  2. Kunert, Andrzej. K., Polacy w Iranie 1942-45. Vol I. R.O.P.W.i M.
     Warsawa. 2002.
  3. Mironowicz, Anna, Od Hajnowki do Pahlewi. Editions Spotkania.
     Paris 1986.
 
4. Woloch, Helena, Moje Wspomnienia. Sovest. Kotlas 1998.



#54290 From: Krystyna Mew <krystynamew@...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:54 am
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Yes indeed.  I will be in the UK from 22nd and will get in touch 23rd.
Krystyna



From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'

 
Thank you Krystyna, Lenarda and Mark. I do appreciate your kind words.
Actually writing the story helped me to come to terms with Richard's death but when I finished I had to ask 'what now?' He talked all the time to the family about Kazakhstan and school and had a wonderful memory. He recorded the deportation chapters on tape and edited the written chapters himself. The tapes will also will have a place in the K-S VM.
I'm looking forward to meeting up for the lecture Krystyna 
  .
Helen Bitner UK


On 15 Jan 2013, at 20:26, Krystyna Mew <krystynamew@...> wrote:





#54291 From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:32 am
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Thanks Mark
I was particularly happy when I found my father-in-law's name Adolf Bitner-Glindzicz on the  so called "Belarusian  Katyn" list. The family never stopped looking and  it was so important to have some kind of official recognition. Maybe verification will come one day.
Helen BitneUK 
 


 

Helen, i understand the "what now" you feel. When I hit the wall and feel like I cant do anymore, I have the same question. Be proud you completed the story, the legend and the permanent record for those interested to find. I am  actually envious.
 
Mark T.
Canada
From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:44:52 PM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 'Richard's Story'
 
Thank you Krystyna, Lenarda and Mark. I do appreciate your kind words.
Actually writing the story helped me to come to terms with Richard's death but when I finished I had to ask 'what now?' He talked all the time to the family about Kazakhstan and school and had a wonderful memory. He recorded the deportation chapters on tape and edited the written chapters himself. The tapes will also will have a place in the K-S VM.
I'm looking forward to meeting up for the lecture Krystyna 
  .
Helen Bitner UK

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#54292 From: "Mary-Anne Morgan" <ma.morgan@...>
Date: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:45 am
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing Janusz Baranek from Pantin, France
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Hello Janusz, welcome.  My mother is 90 this year and her family was deported from Radziule village to Siberia in June 20, 1941 according to documented sources.  Her address in Siberia, which she kept a record of, was:
Nowosibirskaja oblasc
Trocki Rejon
altajski Kraj
Piszczanski Lestranchoz
Zapadnoj Uczastok
I Zawackoj
 
This sounds the same as your grandparents.  I don’t read Polish so find it difficult to understand.  My mother wasn’t at Siberia for very long, but has very strong memories of it which I documented in 1997 when she was even more lucid.  If I can help, please email me.  I would be very interested in any other information you find, especially photos.
 
Kind regards
Mary-Anne
(NZ)
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 8:06 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing Janusz Baranek from Pantin, France
 
 

Dear Group
Please welcome Janusz to the group. His grandparents were born in Horodnica, Województwo tarnopolskie (now in Ukraine) and were deported in January 1940 to Siberia, nr Barnaul, Ałtajskiego Kraju more precisely in the troiski rejon, pieszczański lestranchoz (Altajskij kraj/Troitskij rajon/Pes'janskij Lestranhoz).
So Janusz is doing research into this and the subsequent places where they were.
His father was born in Siberia, then was moved to Iran then India (Valivade/nr. Kolhapur) . He then came to the UK in September 1947 where, quite a while later Janusz was born.
My very best wishes with your research Janusz.

Helen Bitner
Colchester UK


#54293 From: "Mary-Anne Morgan" <ma.morgan@...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:07 am
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому
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Hello Richard
 
The letter is encouraging to me.  How did you find out which gulag your father was in?  I know my grandfather was in Komi but I don’t know which gulag.
 
Thanks
Mary-Anne
(NZ)
 
 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 5:33 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому
 
Friends, can anyone provide me with a translation of these 2 brief letters?  They must be in response to my request to Komi for information regarding dad's time in the gulag near Uchta.  I can't use Google because it is a PDF.  Many thanks in advance.  Rich K, USA
 

From: Aduard Kochetkov <rusemb@...>
Subject: вниманию РКозловскому


см.вложения

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C уважением,
И.Болдырев
 

#54294 From: Józef Taran <jozef.taran@...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:41 pm
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому
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Hello Mary-Anne and Richard,

 

Maybe I am too pessimistic, but I have got other impression. If Richard is requested to show the court sentence about rehabilitation of Eugeniusz. What do you think?

 

Best

Józik

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary-Anne Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому

 

 

Hello Richard

 

The letter is encouraging to me.  How did you find out which gulag your father was in?  I know my grandfather was in Komi but I don’t know which gulag.

 

Thanks

Mary-Anne

(NZ)


#54295 From: Richard Kozlowski <r52302@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:58 am
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: ӧߧڧާѧߧڧ ٧ݧӧܧާ
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Maryanne and Josef, I do not know which gulag.  I only know that my dad said that he was somewhere near Uchta.  So I wrote to Komi to get information.

I originally wrote to them last summer.  I received a response asking for proof that I was Eugeniusz's son, but because I was traveling I could not send it to them by the required deadline.  So I assumed they forgot about me.

So now, more than 6 months later, I received the letter that I attached. It is amazing to me that someone in Komi is still working on my request, even though I did not comply with their deadline.  Obviously, someone cares.  Which brings to mind many of Stan's posts from Moscow asking us not to hold all Russian people in contempt for what happened to our Polish ancestors.  

I am not sure where this will lead, but I am hopeful that I can obtain my dad's original arrest record, as some have successfully done. That would be truly amazing.  Rich, USA

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Józef Taran <jozef.taran@...> wrote:

 

Hello Mary-Anne and Richard,

 

Maybe I am too pessimistic, but I have got other impression. If Richard is requested to show the court sentence about rehabilitation of Eugeniusz. What do you think?

 

Best

Józik

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary-Anne Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому

 

 

Hello Richard

 

The letter is encouraging to me.  How did you find out which gulag your father was in?  I know my grandfather was in Komi but I don’t know which gulag.

 

Thanks

Mary-Anne

(NZ)


#54296 From: holden@...
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:41 pm
Subject: Sybirska kolda
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Hello,

It's already two weeks after Christmas and Eve, but having browsing family
documents I found this sheet of paper which I got from my grandma
about 20 years ago, it's christmas carol typed on typewriter. I don't know how
old is that document.
Maybe, on next christmas all siberians families would like to sing it together
at Christmas Eve supper ?

for non polish members, maybe it would be worth to translate ?
Regards,

Tom.

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#54297 From: Stanislaw Zwierzynski <zwierzinski1957@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:45 am
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому
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Dear Richard!

I think I found your grandfather. The lists of the Komi-Memorial, Volume 7, Part 2.

In 1944, he was again convicted by NKWD. Prior to that, he worked at Vorkuta mine. Or this is not your grandfather.

КОЗЛОВСКИЙ ЕВГЕНИЙ ЮЗЕФОВИЧ, 1918 г.р., поляк, м.р. с.Гавеловичи, Тернопольский р-н и обл., Украинская ССР, м.п. Воркутлаг НКВД, заключенный, воентехник, рабочий ОЛП Кирпичного завода № 2. Арестован 16.09.1944г. Осужден 09.11.1944г. военным трибуналом войск НКВД при комбинате «Воркутуголь» по ст. 58-14 УК РСФСР на 10 лет лишения свободы и 5 лет поражения в правах.
KOZLOVSKY EUGENE Yuzefowich, born in 1918, a Pole, born s. Gawelovichi, Ternopol district and region., Ukrainian SSR. CAMP - Vorkutlag NKWD, prisoner, military technician, working Joint Lag Pukt - Brick Factory number 2.
16.09.1944 arrested (second time).
09.11.1944 condemned by Military Tribunal of NKWD at the plant "Vorkutugol" -  item 58-14  of the RSFSR Criminal Code - to 10 years in prison (additionally) and 5 years disqualification.

Stan from M.

From: Richard Kozlowski <r52302@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому

 
Maryanne and Josef, I do not know which gulag.  I only know that my dad said that he was somewhere near Uchta.  So I wrote to Komi to get information.

I originally wrote to them last summer.  I received a response asking for proof that I was Eugeniusz's son, but because I was traveling I could not send it to them by the required deadline.  So I assumed they forgot about me.

So now, more than 6 months later, I received the letter that I attached. It is amazing to me that someone in Komi is still working on my request, even though I did not comply with their deadline.  Obviously, someone cares.  Which brings to mind many of Stan's posts from Moscow asking us not to hold all Russian people in contempt for what happened to our Polish ancestors.  

I am not sure where this will lead, but I am hopeful that I can obtain my dad's original arrest record, as some have successfully done. That would be truly amazing.  Rich, USA

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Józef Taran <jozef.taran@...> wrote:

 
Hello Mary-Anne and Richard,
 
Maybe I am too pessimistic, but I have got other impression. If Richard is requested to show the court sentence about rehabilitation of Eugeniusz. What do you think?
 
Best
Józik
 
From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary-Anne Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
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Hello Richard
 
The letter is encouraging to me.  How did you find out which gulag your father was in?  I know my grandfather was in Komi but I don’t know which gulag.
 
Thanks
Mary-Anne
(NZ)



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#54298 From: Stanislaw Zwierzynski <zwierzinski1957@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:49 am
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому
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Richard!

If you want to know more about Komi camps, send me a private Message, I'll tell you.

I have searching my grandfather, who was in Komi, but dont know where.
Already I written five letters, and yet avail. But drops sharpening stone.

I can imagine how hard it is to you. But do not stop the effort.

If I find a camp where was my grandfather, be sure, I will go there in summer.

Stan from M


From: Richard Kozlowski <r52302@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому

 
Maryanne and Josef, I do not know which gulag.  I only know that my dad said that he was somewhere near Uchta.  So I wrote to Komi to get information.

I originally wrote to them last summer.  I received a response asking for proof that I was Eugeniusz's son, but because I was traveling I could not send it to them by the required deadline.  So I assumed they forgot about me.

So now, more than 6 months later, I received the letter that I attached. It is amazing to me that someone in Komi is still working on my request, even though I did not comply with their deadline.  Obviously, someone cares.  Which brings to mind many of Stan's posts from Moscow asking us not to hold all Russian people in contempt for what happened to our Polish ancestors.  

I am not sure where this will lead, but I am hopeful that I can obtain my dad's original arrest record, as some have successfully done. That would be truly amazing.  Rich, USA

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Józef Taran <jozef.taran@...> wrote:

 
Hello Mary-Anne and Richard,
 
Maybe I am too pessimistic, but I have got other impression. If Richard is requested to show the court sentence about rehabilitation of Eugeniusz. What do you think?
 
Best
Józik
 
From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary-Anne Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: Ã�²Ã�½Ã�¸Ã�¼Ã�°Ã�½Ã�¸ÑŽ Ã� Ã�Å¡Ã�¾Ã�·Ã�»Ã�¾Ã�²ÑÂ�Ã�ºÃ�¾Ã�¼Ñƒ
 
 
Hello Richard
 
The letter is encouraging to me.  How did you find out which gulag your father was in?  I know my grandfather was in Komi but I don’t know which gulag.
 
Thanks
Mary-Anne
(NZ)



#54299 From: "Vincent Geffroy" <geffroy@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:07 am
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Hello Stan
 
My father was also in Vorkuta. He was not in a mine, but in a camp where they had to cut down trees. Do you have any informatiom on him in your lists? Edward Josef NIKIEL, born 13 October 1921, Zdolbunow, parents Tadeusz & Helena. He does appear on the Karta list with a number (Sygnatura ZUB-/387/182/13). I have not been able to find any information on my grandmother Helena, who was also deported & died. I believe, wherever she was sent. Her maiden name was GERCYK/GIERCYK/HERCYK (not sure of spelling).
 
Kind Regards
Karen Geffroy (Nikiel)
Cape Town
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:45 AM
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Dear Richard!

I think I found your grandfather. The lists of the Komi-Memorial, Volume 7, Part 2.

In 1944, he was again convicted by NKWD. Prior to that, he worked at Vorkuta mine. Or this is not your grandfather.

КОЗЛОВСКИЙ ЕВГЕНИЙ ЮЗЕФОВИЧ, 1918 г.р., поляк, м.р. с.Гавеловичи, Тернопольский р-н и обл., Украинская ССР, м.п. Воркутлаг НКВД, заключенный, воентехник, рабочий ОЛП Кирпичного завода № 2. Арестован 16.09.1944г. Осужден 09.11.1944г. военным трибуналом войск НКВД при комбинате «Воркутуголь» по ст. 58-14 УК РСФСР на 10 лет лишения свободы и 5 лет поражения в правах.
KOZLOVSKY EUGENE Yuzefowich, born in 1918, a Pole, born s. Gawelovichi, Ternopol district and region., Ukrainian SSR. CAMP - Vorkutlag NKWD, prisoner, military technician, working Joint Lag Pukt - Brick Factory number 2.
16.09.1944 arrested (second time).
09.11.1944 condemned by Military Tribunal of NKWD at the plant "Vorkutugol" -  item 58-14  of the RSFSR Criminal Code - to 10 years in prison (additionally) and 5 years disqualification.

Stan from M.

From: Richard Kozlowski <r52302@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому

 
Maryanne and Josef, I do not know which gulag.  I only know that my dad said that he was somewhere near Uchta.  So I wrote to Komi to get information.

I originally wrote to them last summer.  I received a response asking for proof that I was Eugeniusz's son, but because I was traveling I could not send it to them by the required deadline.  So I assumed they forgot about me.

So now, more than 6 months later, I received the letter that I attached. It is amazing to me that someone in Komi is still working on my request, even though I did not comply with their deadline.  Obviously, someone cares.  Which brings to mind many of Stan's posts from Moscow asking us not to hold all Russian people in contempt for what happened to our Polish ancestors.  

I am not sure where this will lead, but I am hopeful that I can obtain my dad's original arrest record, as some have successfully done. That would be truly amazing.  Rich, USA

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Józef Taran <jozef.taran@...> wrote:

 
Hello Mary-Anne and Richard,
 
Maybe I am too pessimistic, but I have got other impression. If Richard is requested to show the court sentence about rehabilitation of Eugeniusz. What do you think?
 
Best
Józik
 
From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary-Anne Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: Ã�²Ã�½Ã�¸Ã�¼Ã�°Ã�½Ã�¸ÑŽ Ã� Ã�Å¡Ã�¾Ã�·Ã�»Ã�¾Ã�²ÑÂ�Ã�ºÃ�¾Ã�¼Ñƒ
 
Hello Richard
 
The letter is encouraging to me.  How did you find out which gulag your father was in?  I know my grandfather was in Komi but I don’t know which gulag.
 
Thanks
Mary-Anne
(NZ)



#54300 From: Stanislaw Zwierzynski <zwierzinski1957@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:25 am
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РК
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Karen!
where came from your grandmother and family (Ukraine, Belarus - now)? Who else with your grandmother was deported? Who is your mother - where she was born?
S. 


From: Vincent Geffroy <geffroy@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РК

 
Hello Stan
 
My father was also in Vorkuta. He was not in a mine, but in a camp where they had to cut down trees. Do you have any informatiom on him in your lists? Edward Josef NIKIEL, born 13 October 1921, Zdolbunow, parents Tadeusz & Helena. He does appear on the Karta list with a number (Sygnatura ZUB-/387/182/13). I have not been able to find any information on my grandmother Helena, who was also deported & died. I believe, wherever she was sent. Her maiden name was GERCYK/GIERCYK/HERCYK (not sure of spelling).
 
Kind Regards
Karen Geffroy (Nikiel)
Cape Town
 
 
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Dear Richard!

I think I found your grandfather. The lists of the Komi-Memorial, Volume 7, Part 2.

In 1944, he was again convicted by NKWD. Prior to that, he worked at Vorkuta mine. Or this is not your grandfather.

КОЗЛОВСКИЙ ЕВГЕНИЙ ЮЗЕФОВИЧ, 1918 г.р., поляк, м.р. с.Гавеловичи, Тернопольский р-н и обл., Украинская ССР, м.п. Воркутлаг НКВД, заключенный, воентехник, рабочий ОЛП Кирпичного завода № 2. Арестован 16.09.1944г. Осужден 09.11.1944г. военным трибуналом войск НКВД при комбинате «Воркутуголь» по ст. 58-14 УК РСФСР на 10 лет лишения свободы и 5 лет поражения в правах.
KOZLOVSKY EUGENE Yuzefowich, born in 1918, a Pole, born s. Gawelovichi, Ternopol district and region., Ukrainian SSR. CAMP - Vorkutlag NKWD, prisoner, military technician, working Joint Lag Pukt - Brick Factory number 2.
16.09.1944 arrested (second time).
09.11.1944 condemned by Military Tribunal of NKWD at the plant "Vorkutugol" -  item 58-14  of the RSFSR Criminal Code - to 10 years in prison (additionally) and 5 years disqualification.

Stan from M.

From: Richard Kozlowski <r52302@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому

 
Maryanne and Josef, I do not know which gulag.  I only know that my dad said that he was somewhere near Uchta.  So I wrote to Komi to get information.

I originally wrote to them last summer.  I received a response asking for proof that I was Eugeniusz's son, but because I was traveling I could not send it to them by the required deadline.  So I assumed they forgot about me.

So now, more than 6 months later, I received the letter that I attached. It is amazing to me that someone in Komi is still working on my request, even though I did not comply with their deadline.  Obviously, someone cares.  Which brings to mind many of Stan's posts from Moscow asking us not to hold all Russian people in contempt for what happened to our Polish ancestors.  

I am not sure where this will lead, but I am hopeful that I can obtain my dad's original arrest record, as some have successfully done. That would be truly amazing.  Rich, USA

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On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Józef Taran <jozef.taran@...> wrote:

 
Hello Mary-Anne and Richard,
 
Maybe I am too pessimistic, but I have got other impression. If Richard is requested to show the court sentence about rehabilitation of Eugeniusz. What do you think?
 
Best
Józik
 
From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary-Anne Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
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Hello Richard
 
The letter is encouraging to me.  How did you find out which gulag your father was in?  I know my grandfather was in Komi but I don’t know which gulag.
 
Thanks
Mary-Anne
(NZ)





#54301 From: "Vincent Geffroy" <geffroy@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РК
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Hello Stan
 
Sadly I know nothing about my grandmother other than her name & maiden surname. The family was living at ul.3.Maja, Nr 52, m2, Zdolbunow (now Ukraine) at the time of her arrest. She was married to Tadeusz NIKIEL, who was, I believe, a Stationmaster. From what my late father told me, Tadeusz was shot by the Gestapo in the Warsaw Uprising, so I think he may have been in the AK. My father was sent to Vorkuta via Kotlas.
 
Kind Regards
Karen Geffroy (Nikiel)
Cape Town
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Stanislaw Zwierzynski

ul. 3. MAJA, Nr 52, m2

Zdolbunow

Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:25 AM
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Karen!
where came from your grandmother and family (Ukraine, Belarus - now)? Who else with your grandmother was deported? Who is your mother - where she was born?
S. 


From: Vincent Geffroy <geffroy@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РК

 
Hello Stan
 
My father was also in Vorkuta. He was not in a mine, but in a camp where they had to cut down trees. Do you have any informatiom on him in your lists? Edward Josef NIKIEL, born 13 October 1921, Zdolbunow, parents Tadeusz & Helena. He does appear on the Karta list with a number (Sygnatura ZUB-/387/182/13). I have not been able to find any information on my grandmother Helena, who was also deported & died. I believe, wherever she was sent. Her maiden name was GERCYK/GIERCYK/HERCYK (not sure of spelling).
 
Kind Regards
Karen Geffroy (Nikiel)
Cape Town
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому [1 Attachment]

 
Dear Richard!

I think I found your grandfather. The lists of the Komi-Memorial, Volume 7, Part 2.

In 1944, he was again convicted by NKWD. Prior to that, he worked at Vorkuta mine. Or this is not your grandfather.

КОЗЛОВСКИЙ ЕВГЕНИЙ ЮЗЕФОВИЧ, 1918 г.р., поляк, м.р. с.Гавеловичи, Тернопольский р-н и обл., Украинская ССР, м.п. Воркутлаг НКВД, заключенный, воентехник, рабочий ОЛП Кирпичного завода № 2. Арестован 16.09.1944г. Осужден 09.11.1944г. военным трибуналом войск НКВД при комбинате «Воркутуголь» по ст. 58-14 УК РСФСР на 10 лет лишения свободы и 5 лет поражения в правах.
KOZLOVSKY EUGENE Yuzefowich, born in 1918, a Pole, born s. Gawelovichi, Ternopol district and region., Ukrainian SSR. CAMP - Vorkutlag NKWD, prisoner, military technician, working Joint Lag Pukt - Brick Factory number 2.
16.09.1944 arrested (second time).
09.11.1944 condemned by Military Tribunal of NKWD at the plant "Vorkutugol" -  item 58-14  of the RSFSR Criminal Code - to 10 years in prison (additionally) and 5 years disqualification.

Stan from M.

From: Richard Kozlowski <r52302@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com" <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: вниманию РКозловскому

 
Maryanne and Josef, I do not know which gulag.  I only know that my dad said that he was somewhere near Uchta.  So I wrote to Komi to get information.

I originally wrote to them last summer.  I received a response asking for proof that I was Eugeniusz's son, but because I was traveling I could not send it to them by the required deadline.  So I assumed they forgot about me.

So now, more than 6 months later, I received the letter that I attached. It is amazing to me that someone in Komi is still working on my request, even though I did not comply with their deadline.  Obviously, someone cares.  Which brings to mind many of Stan's posts from Moscow asking us not to hold all Russian people in contempt for what happened to our Polish ancestors.  

I am not sure where this will lead, but I am hopeful that I can obtain my dad's original arrest record, as some have successfully done. That would be truly amazing.  Rich, USA

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Józef Taran <jozef.taran@...> wrote:

 
Hello Mary-Anne and Richard,
 
Maybe I am too pessimistic, but I have got other impression. If Richard is requested to show the court sentence about rehabilitation of Eugeniusz. What do you think?
 
Best
Józik
 
From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary-Anne Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: Ã�²Ã�½Ã�¸Ã�¼Ã�°Ã�½Ã�¸ÑŽ Ã� Ã�Å¡Ã�¾Ã�·Ã�»Ã�¾Ã�²ÑÂ�Ã�ºÃ�¾Ã�¼Ñƒ
 
Hello Richard
 
The letter is encouraging to me.  How did you find out which gulag your father was in?  I know my grandfather was in Komi but I don’t know which gulag.
 
Thanks
Mary-Anne
(NZ)





#54302 From: "Eva" <eszegidewicz@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:08 am
Subject: Polish play at POSK, London on Saturday 26 January
eszegidewicz
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Dear Group,
The Manchester Consul is arranging a coach trip from the Polish Church in
Manchester to POSK, London on Saturday 26 January if anyone is interested:
http://manchester.msz.gov.pl/pl/aktualnosci_nowe/wyjazd_do_londynu_na_spektakl_a\
gnieszki_osieckiej__a_wariatka_jeszcze_tanczy__;jsessionid=0EF13762459455C756881\
7AABBC0D90B.cmsap2p
Please inform your friends and contacts.
Best regards.
Eva Szegidewicz
Director, Kresy-Siberia (UK)
Manchester

#54303 From: Józef Taran <jozef.taran@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:26 am
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Hello Richard,

 

In the letter you have got from Komi Republic it is written that Eugeniusz was a prisoner of Uchtizhemlag (it is complicated to write in English those Russian complex words. It is compound this way Ucht-izhem-lag). There is also small difference in year of birth. Russians give 1917 while Stanislaw Zwierzynski placed the document with 1918.

 

Hope this helps

Józef


#54304 From: Józef Taran <jozef.taran@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:33 am
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#54305 From: Barbara Milligan <bwbm5@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:14 pm
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Roots Trust have a lot of wonderful pics of Uchta. My father was in Uchtizemlag. 

Basia (UK)
On 17 Jan 2013, at 11:33, Jzef Taran wrote:



#54306 From: "rafal_zawadzki" <rafal_zawadzki@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] "Mark"...z obozu w Ostaszkowie do Kalinina nr 058/2 z maja 1940
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Hi Mark!

Here you'll find all the profiles (even some photos) of Poles murdered in
Kalinin (Tver) and buried in Miednoje:

http://www.radaopwim.gov.pl/media/pliki/Ksiega_Cmentarna_Miednoje_Tom1.pdf

http://www.radaopwim.gov.pl/media/pliki/Ksiega_Cmentarna_Miednoje_Tom2.pdf

At the bottom of every profile you should find the number of the departure list,
the position on the list and the number of POW case.

I have scaned "my" list No 37/2 dated 20th of Apr 1940, so I will send it.

I wish you a pleasant reading.

Rafal

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Mark  wrote:
>
> Thank you, always helpful Hania.
> I will be translating this bit by bit as Google allows. 
> I also now realize that I mistook a blurry list '56' on Rafal's site that is
really list '58'. so my idea of 2 lists numbered #56 is wrong.
>  
>  
>  
>
> Mark T.
> Canada
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Anne Kaczanowski
> To: "Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com"
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:46:23 PM
> Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] "Mark"...z obozu w Ostaszkowie do Kalinina nr
058/2 z maja 1940
>
>
>  
>
> Mark have you seen this before?
>  
> z obozu w Ostaszkowie do Kalinina nr 058/2 z maja 1940
>  
> http://glusk.diecezja.lublin.pl/starobielsk08.htm
>  
> hania
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: rafal_zawadzki
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:02:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Rafal Zawadzki
from Lbiska, Poland
>
>  
> Hi Mark!  See a link below: 
http://www.krzemieniewo.net/viewpage.php?page_id=288  at the bottom you'll find
such a list dated May 1940.  I will try to skan "my" list dated 20th of April
1940 and send to you soon.  Rafal  --- In
mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, Mark  wrote: > > Thanks Rafal. > I
havent had any luck finding the source of your document but continue trying. > I
would love to see a scan of it. >   >  > Mark T. > Canada >  >  >
________________________________ >  From: rafal_zawadzki  > To:
mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com  > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:16:01
AM > Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Rafal Zawadzki
from Lbiska, Poland >  >  >    >  > Hi! Mark, >  > When Stefan and his family
"disapeared" in 1939/1940 and in April 1943 Germans anounced that they had found
the massive graves od Polish officers in Katyn forest, my grandpa started to
think that his brother was killed by Soviets.
>  After II w.w. he couldn't even talk about it as Soviet system had invaided
Poland. When in late 90-s of XX century I reacted to the advertisment that I
described before, I was continuing thinking of my grandpa - Stefan had to be
among the policemen murdered in Tver and he unfortunatly was. >  > Rafal >  >
--- In mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, Mark  wrote: > > > > Wow!  > > At
that time, were you aware of the details of his eventual fate? > >  > > Mark T.
> > Canada > >  > >  > > ________________________________ > >  From:
rafal_zawadzki  > > To: mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com  > > Sent:
Friday, January 11, 2013 9:40:17 AM > > Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org]
Introducing new member Rafal Zawadzki from Lbiska, Poland > >  > >  > >
   > >  > > Hi Mark, > >  > > Actually I got "my" list about 10 years
ago from Polish Ministry of Domestic Cases (sorry - it's my translation). As I
remember some Polish politician went to Moscow and
>  got some papers from Russian archives. There was an advertisment on TV and
everybody who wanted to, were able to check if there is any interesting name in
the papers. I waited in a que for several hours, but after that I got a copy of
one document where name of my relative Stefan Zawadzki occured. It was a list
dated 20th of Apr 1940 addressed to the head of Ostashkov special camp. There
was an order to send specified POWs to Kalinin (now Tver) NKWD. > >  > > I don't
know if the lists are publicated anywhere, but I'll look for them and let you
know if they are or if you may get them from any authorities in Poland. > >  > >
Thank you for your support > >  > > Rafal > >  > > --- In
mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, Mark  wrote: > > > > > > Hi Rafal, > > >
Where did you see that dated list of POW transfers? > > > I would be grateful to
learn of such lists. > > > Thanks > > >  > > > Mark T. > > > Canada > > >  > > >
> > >
>  ________________________________ > > >  From: rafal_zawadzki  > > > To:
mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com  > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013
5:05:54 AM > > > Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member
Rafal Zawadzki from Lbiska, Poland > > >  > > >  > > > Ã'‚   > >
>  > > >  > > >  > > > Hello All of You, > > >  > > > Thank you very much for
your support and help. > > >  > > > Krystyna's father is No 11731 on the list
below. His name is on the 20th of April 1940 list of "POWs" sent from Ostaszkov
lager to Tver, so he was murdered some days after this date. > > >  > > > Rafal
> > >  > > > --- In mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, Mark  wrote: > > > >
> > > > Here are the Zawadzka's from the 4 Katyn lists. Sorry for the format.  >
> > > 8988  Zawadzki 
BolesÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¡aw  s.
MichaÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¡a  St. przod. PP 
1898  Twer  > >
>  > > 8989  Zawadzki 
WÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¡odzimierz  s.
MichaÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¡a  St. przod. PP 
1900  Twer  > > > > 11730  Zawadzki 
BronisÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¡aw  s. Marcelego 
St. przod. PP  1900  Twer  > > > > 11731  Zawadzki  Stefan  s.
StanisÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¡awa  St. przod. PP 
1906  Twer  > > > > 13767  Zawadzki  Aleksander  s. Franciszka  post PP  1897 
Twer  > > > > 13768  Zawadzki  JÃ'Æ'Æ'Ã'‚³zef  s. Jana 
post PP  1909  Twer  > > > > 1060  zawadzki  michal  michala    1883  43  2  64 
> > > > 7951  Zawadzki Jan    s. JÃ'Æ'Æ'Ã'‚³zefa  ppor 
r. 1910 Ã'Æ'¢Ã'¢â€šÂ¬Ã'‚ 
CharkÃ'Æ'Æ'Ã'‚³w  Charkow  > > > > 4196  Zawadzki
JÃ'Æ'Æ'Ã'‚³zef    s. Antoniego  por  r. 1898
>  Ã'Æ'¢Ã'¢â€šÂ¬Ã'‚ 
KatyÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¾  Katyn  > > > > 2171 
Zawadzki Marian    s. Walentego  kpt  r. 1879
Ã'Æ'¢Ã'¢â€šÂ¬Ã'‚ 
KatyÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¾  Katyn  > > > > 4197 
Zawadzki StanisÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¡aw    s.
Aleksandra  por  r. 1903
Ã'Æ'¢Ã'¢â€šÂ¬Ã'‚ 
KatyÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¾  Katyn  > > > > 8428 
Zawadzki Tadeusz    s. Wincentego  pchor  r. 1916
Ã'Æ'¢Ã'¢â€šÂ¬Ã'‚ 
KatyÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¾  Katyn  > > > > 7952 
Zawadzki Teofil    s. Andrzeja  ppor  r. 1892
Ã'Æ'¢Ã'¢â€šÂ¬Ã'‚ 
>  KatyÃ'Æ'…Ã'¢â‚¬Å¾  Katyn  > > > >  >
> > > Mark T. > > > > Canada > > > >  > > > >  > > > >
________________________________ > > > >  From: Helen Bitner  > > > > To:
"mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com"  > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 9,
2013 9:50:19 AM > > > > Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member
Rafal Zawadzki from Lbiska, Poland > > > >  > > > >  > > > >
Ã'Æ'‚Ã'‚   > > > >  > > > > Dear Group > > > >
Please welcome new member Rafal who is researching for his aunt Krystyna
Zawadzka  born in Kovel (former Poland, now Ukraine) on 15th of Feb 1937. She
was a daughter of Stefan and Rozalia. Stefan was a brother of Rafal's
grandfather and he was a State Policeman, arrested by the  Soviet NKWD in Sept
1939, then imprisoned in Ostaschkov lager and finally murdered at the end of
April 1940 in Tver (USSR). His body is buried in a massive grave together with 
more
>  than 6,000 other bodies of Polish policemen, prison guards, clerks etc. in
Miednoye (now Russia). > > > >  > > > > Rafal's family know about Stefan's fate
due to some documents released by Russia some years ago, but  they don't have
any information about his wife Rozalia and their daughter Krystyna, with whom
the contact was broken about 1939/1940. It was thought, they were taken to
Siberia like other members of policemen's families and probably lost there. > >
> >  > > > > Two days ago Rafal received from the Polish Red Cross information
that a Krystyna Zawadzka born 1937, a Polish orphan, arrived in Canada in 1949.
and eventually settled   in the United Kingdom. Rafal thinks this is perhaps
another Krystyna Zawadzka  because she was born in 1937?  However if there is
any probability that she is their family member who was lost 70 years ago the
Zawadzki family would be overjoyed. > > > >  > > > > Rafal, we do have a
Krystyna Zawadzka on our Wall Of
>  Names in the Kresy-Siberia Virtual Museum but there is little information
other than she was a refugee in India and born in 1937. > > > > My very best
wishes for  success in your researches > > > > Kind regards > > > > Helen Bitner
> > > > Colchester > > > > UK > > > > > > > > > >
>

#54307 From: Richard Kozlowski <r52302@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] вниманию РК
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Stan and Jsef:

My father is not the one that you found, Stan.  He was in a camp cutting down trees.  I think the person born in 1918 was another Kozlowski.  I am attaching a couple of documents for you, including the letter I sent to Komi (in Russian).  If he was truly in Uchtizhemlag that would be a great discovery for me.  Rich, USA











On Jan 17, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Jzef Taran wrote:



1 of 1 Photo(s)

#54308 From: Jzef Taran <jozef.taran@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:39 pm
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] ӧߧڧާѧߧڧ [2 Attachments]
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Hello Rich,

 

It stands quite clear in the letter from the Republic of Komi: prisonner of Uchtizhemlag NKVD, born 1917.

 

By the way the surname Kozlowski is very popular Polish surname. In 2002 there were 81 thousands of Kozlowski/a in Poland while most popular Nowak counts a bit more than 200 thousands.

 

Best

Jzef, Warsaw, Poland

 

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kozlowski
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:56 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] ӧߧڧާѧߧڧ [2 Attachments]

 

Stan and Jsef:

 

My father is not the one that you found, Stan.  He was in a camp cutting down trees.  I think the person born in 1918 was another Kozlowski.  I am attaching a couple of documents for you, including the letter I sent to Komi (in Russian).  If he was truly in Uchtizhemlag that would be a great discovery for me.  Rich, USA

 


#54309 From: Stanislaw Zwierzynski <zwierzinski1957@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] вниманию РК [2 Attachments]
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Dear Richard!

Yes, you're right, I  find another Kozlowski, perhaps, it is the most common surname in Polska!

But I express doubt, that your father was in UhtiZhemLag.

The fact - I am studying KOMI camps, there were many osadniks from Nowogrudok.

Manufacture:

In UhtiZhemLag - no extraction and processing of wood - there were exploration, production and refining, asphaltites, mining and processing of radium water.
In VorkutaLag - coal mining.
SevZelDorLag - railway construction Kotlas-Kozwa.
SevPechLag - railway construction Kozwa - Vorkuta.

Logging was only in UstVymLag and until August 17, 1940 - in Lochinski camp.

I posting the file where is my research.
In addition, - two photo 1940 of main stations of SevZhelDorLag - the worst of 5 "Polish" camps.

In addition, a monograph on UhtiZemLag - the best of all.

Stan from M.


From: Richard Kozlowski <r52302@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] вниманию РК [2 Attachments]

Stan and Jósef:

My father is not the one that you found, Stan.  He was in a camp cutting down trees.  I think the person born in 1918 was another Kozlowski.  I am attaching a couple of documents for you, including the letter I sent to Komi (in Russian).  If he was truly in Uchtizhemlag that would be a great discovery for me.  Rich, USA













On Jan 17, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Józef Taran wrote:





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