Hi Cindy,



The photo reads: "In the house of the Banasiow's during my birthday

celebrations. This is I and the Kaczmarczyks."



I extrapolated a bit at the end re "zabowy" which in this context

means "zabawa" (festivities or celebration) and "urodziu" which

certainly is urodziny (birthday).



Good Luck

Chris Gladun

To All,



Thank you for all your comments positive and negative regarding the

translation programs.

Our community never fails to have a lively discussion on many topics

which helps all sides in reviewing their positions and in most cases

brings out the best in us. I hope that we look out for the best in

each other rather then the worst. I hope that our goal is to help

each other rather then to tear down what we have established here in

this community.



So I again thank you all.



There are a few comments that I would like to make as to this issue

and these will be my last comments.



1. I have no vested interest one way or another if someone buys

or does not buy this product. For those who are interested an

excellent price was negotiated.

2. This product is a translation product. Some of us don't like

its limitations but it does what is says it does.

3. Some call this product a glorified dictionary. Some claim

that we should spend our funds on a paper home dictionary or

electronic dictionaries. A paper or electronic dictionary has some

limitations also. You have to look up each word one at a time. If

you can't spell it gives you no hints. The process of looking up 200

to 1000 words one at a time is a daunting task and I have done this

in the past and don't like it. This program looks up the entire

document all at one time.

4. If we were to buy 3 good dictionaries the cost could be

almost equal to the price of this program maybe a little less but

this program does so much more.

5. I will submit to Michael the final list of interested people

on March 22nd.

6. I also use the dictionary in Microsoft word program. Many

times I have to ask my wife how do you spell…….. It seems that

dictionaries also have limitations or is it I who has these

limitations?

7.      We are at the 150.00 level



Thank you all for your indulgence and I hope I have not offended

greatly any who might have different views, reservations on the

perceived or real limitations regarding  this offer.



As an added bonus Michael said any future upgrades will be free to

our group.



Regards,

Julek

Hi Julian

I'm still interested so count me in.

I'm off for a week's holiday tomorrow so won't be able to check the group's

messages so often.



Pozdrowienia

Elzunia Olsson

Sweden

Ps a reminder to new members and old, please include your name and

residence, as Andy also keeps trying to point out. It is often important to

the context of the message.



-----Original Message-----

From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of julek2205

Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:44 AM

To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Translation





To All,



Thank you for all your comments positive and negative regarding the

translation programs.

Our community never fails to have a lively discussion on many topics

which helps all sides in reviewing their positions and in most cases

brings out the best in us. I hope that we look out for the best in

each other rather then the worst. I hope that our goal is to help

each other rather then to tear down what we have established here in

this community.



So I again thank you all.



There are a few comments that I would like to make as to this issue

and these will be my last comments.



1.      I have no vested interest one way or another if someone buys

or does not buy this product. For those who are interested an

excellent price was negotiated.

2.      This product is a translation product. Some of us don't like

its limitations but it does what is says it does.

3.      Some call this product a glorified dictionary. Some claim

that we should spend our funds on a paper home dictionary or

electronic dictionaries. A paper or electronic dictionary has some

limitations also. You have to look up each word one at a time. If

you can't spell it gives you no hints. The process of looking up 200

to 1000 words one at a time is a daunting task and I have done this

in the past and don't like it. This program looks up the entire

document all at one time.

4.      If we were to buy 3 good dictionaries the cost could be

almost equal to the price of this program maybe a little less but

this program does so much more.

5.      I will submit to Michael the final list of interested people

on March 22nd.

6.      I also use the dictionary in Microsoft word program. Many

times I have to ask my wife how do you spell........ It seems that

dictionaries also have limitations or is it I who has these

limitations?

7.      We are at the 150.00 level



Thank you all for your indulgence and I hope I have not offended

greatly any who might have different views, reservations on the

perceived or real limitations regarding  this offer.



As an added bonus Michael said any future upgrades will be free to

our group.



Regards,

Julek















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Hi everyone,

I would like to add some comments about our discussion on

translation programs.  I assume/hope that the translation program

works through using 'cut and paste'. So a sentence written in

English will be translated into Polish, Russian or Ukrainian and it

can then be cut and pasted into the target document.  Even if I knew

Russian or Ukrainian I would find it extremly difficult/impossible

to write anything in these languages as I only possess a standard

QWERTY keyboard. A dictionary would require knowing the Russian /

Ukrainian alphabet to be of any use.



Val (Oldham,UK)



--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "julek2205" <julian_plowy@...>

wrote:

>

>

> To All,

>

> Thank you for all your comments positive and negative regarding

the

> translation programs.

> Our community never fails to have a lively discussion on many

topics

> which helps all sides in reviewing their positions and in most

cases

> brings out the best in us. I hope that we look out for the best in

> each other rather then the worst. I hope that our goal is to help

> each other rather then to tear down what we have established here

in

> this community.

>

> So I again thank you all.

>

> There are a few comments that I would like to make as to this

issue

> and these will be my last comments.

>

> 1. I have no vested interest one way or another if someone buys

> or does not buy this product. For those who are interested an

> excellent price was negotiated.

> 2. This product is a translation product. Some of us don't like

> its limitations but it does what is says it does.

> 3. Some call this product a glorified dictionary. Some claim

> that we should spend our funds on a paper home dictionary or

> electronic dictionaries. A paper or electronic dictionary has some

> limitations also. You have to look up each word one at a time. If

> you can't spell it gives you no hints. The process of looking up

200

> to 1000 words one at a time is a daunting task and I have done

this

> in the past and don't like it. This program looks up the entire

> document all at one time.

> 4. If we were to buy 3 good dictionaries the cost could be

> almost equal to the price of this program maybe a little less but

> this program does so much more.

> 5. I will submit to Michael the final list of interested people

> on March 22nd.

> 6. I also use the dictionary in Microsoft word program. Many

> times I have to ask my wife how do you spell…….. It seems that

> dictionaries also have limitations or is it I who has these

> limitations?

> 7.      We are at the 150.00 level

>

> Thank you all for your indulgence and I hope I have not offended

> greatly any who might have different views, reservations on the

> perceived or real limitations regarding  this offer.

>

> As an added bonus Michael said any future upgrades will be free to

> our group.

>

> Regards,

> Julek

>

Hi Val,



Almost worried abou explaing this, I might get reprimanded again! Oh! what

the hell!!



No, it's much easier than that, NO 'cut & paste' at all.

When you install these progs, they go straight into your 'web browser' and

into 'Word'



For use on the Net; on your top row, in TOOLS, drop down, it will have added

PARS to the list. from here you have the choice of 3 languages, either FROM

or TO that language, click a small square box, OK.

It'll disappear then, go up to where the address at the top, click the green

GO and wait a few moments - that's it



In 'Word';

On the very top, it will have added 'TRANSLATE', type your letter in Eng

[rembering short/precise  sentencces, key words are important, not all the

extra words that we stick in a sentece]. SAVE Eng version, or you'll never

remember what you wrote to who, about what!! Then opp click,to make it go

black, up to TRANSLATE, drop down, choose which one. Another screen will

appear on botton half, maximise, SAVE again. ALWAYS print off 2 x

Russian/Ukraine + 1 Eng = 1 Rus to send + 1 of each for yourself.



There is something called 'varients' which means [when turned on to work].

that  any word it's not sure of, will have a * at each end of that word.

Click an * and a choice of 3 words will come up, You can then check in yor

Russian/Ukr dictionary to decide. I don't bother with them any more after

3-4 years



I have, in 'Word', a half page of exactly what is under each key, in each of

the languages, each in a different colour. When I started playing with

languages I printed it off, glued it to cardboard, propped it up by the

keyboard. I'm sure I can't send attachments via K-S? so, if anybody wants

it, you'll have to email my addy [ladbrooke@...].



For UK only;

If anyone needs to know how to make your Microsoft computer receive email in

other languages, from different parts of the world [not just ????? only] eg;

Central/Western/Eastern Zones/HTML/ASC11/RICH TXT/PL;AIN TXT, and also to

alter your keyboards for Russian or Ukranian, Polish, just ask. I have not

'played' with Polish much yet, but I've done all that's needed be ready to.



Hope this helps Val

Linder

Thanks Linder,

I am happy to have as much information as you are willing to give.

Everyone has their own methods of doing things and what works for

one person does not work for another.  ('One man's meat is another

man's poison'). I will try anything and  I will print your

instructions for when I get the programs.  For now, I have managed

to follow Antoni's instruction and I can now get Russian/Ukranian

equivalents of the English alphabet into Word documents using the

QWERTY keyboard.  I would like to be able to have the extra Polish

letters added to my keyboard. I use the Symbols option in word when

I am making titles for my album and it would be useful to have them

on the keyboard.  I have changed my Yahoo membership to accept

individual emails and I am now receiving attachments with no

problems.



all the best



Val (Oldham,UK)



--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Linder Ladbrooke"

<ladbrooke@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Val,

>

> Almost worried abou explaing this, I might get reprimanded again!

Oh! what

> the hell!!

>

> No, it's much easier than that, NO 'cut & paste' at all.

> When you install these progs, they go straight into your 'web

browser' and

> into 'Word'

>

> For use on the Net; on your top row, in TOOLS, drop down, it will

have added

> PARS to the list. from here you have the choice of 3 languages,

either FROM

> or TO that language, click a small square box, OK.

> It'll disappear then, go up to where the address at the top, click

the green

> GO and wait a few moments - that's it

>

> In 'Word';

> On the very top, it will have added 'TRANSLATE', type your letter

in Eng

> [rembering short/precise  sentencces, key words are important, not

all the

> extra words that we stick in a sentece]. SAVE Eng version, or

you'll never

> remember what you wrote to who, about what!! Then opp click,to

make it go

> black, up to TRANSLATE, drop down, choose which one. Another

screen will

> appear on botton half, maximise, SAVE again. ALWAYS print off 2 x

> Russian/Ukraine + 1 Eng = 1 Rus to send + 1 of each for yourself.

>

> There is something called 'varients' which means [when turned on

to work].

> that  any word it's not sure of, will have a * at each end of that

word.

> Click an * and a choice of 3 words will come up, You can then

check in yor

> Russian/Ukr dictionary to decide. I don't bother with them any

more after

> 3-4 years

>

> I have, in 'Word', a half page of exactly what is under each key,

in each of

> the languages, each in a different colour. When I started playing

with

> languages I printed it off, glued it to cardboard, propped it up

by the

> keyboard. I'm sure I can't send attachments via K-S? so, if

anybody wants

> it, you'll have to email my addy [ladbrooke@...].

>

> For UK only;

> If anyone needs to know how to make your Microsoft computer

receive email in

> other languages, from different parts of the world [not just ?????

only] eg;

> Central/Western/Eastern Zones/HTML/ASC11/RICH TXT/PL;AIN TXT, and

also to

> alter your keyboards for Russian or Ukranian, Polish, just ask. I

have not

> 'played' with Polish much yet, but I've done all that's needed be

ready to.

>

> Hope this helps Val

> Linder

>

Great news:

At the last minute we received order to put us at the 11 purchases

to reach the 100.00 price.



Anyone who has sent their funds in earlier will receive a refund

with the program.



Anyone who wishs to contact Michael direct regarding any questions

his e-mail is below.



Please follow the instructions below when sending in the funds;





Michael will enclose a $50.00 refund check with the CDs if the

customer's check is for $150.00.



Again, the customer's check is to be made payble to Lingvistica '98

Inc. NB:



Michael said the following:

I have just received a check drawn to a 'Michael Blekham'. Of course

I can't take it to the bank. The funny thing is that I was

named 'Bleckman' on the envelope.



NB: my last name is Blekhman, not 'Blekham' or 'Bleckman'.



Thanks again, Julek!





Regards,

Michael Blekhman

www.ling98.com

Please, I need some help in translating this document accurately.



Thank you,

Julek



Descendants of Maciej Pawelek





Historia  Rodziny Pawelków



Manasterz to wioska w gminie Jawornik Polski, powiat Przeworsk, woj.

podkarpackie z glównym miastem Rzeszów kraj Polska. Manasterz

polozony jest u podnóza niewysokich gór Pogórza Dynowskiego, wzdluz

szosy Przeworsk - Dynów, i biegu malej rzeki Mleczki. Wioska jest

duza, dlugosci 8 km, ma kilka przysiólków: Rzeki, Oblasek, Mijów,

Niewazka -sa to skupiska gospodarstw znajdujacych sie wsród gór

polozonych powyzej glównej wioski. Manasterz jest wioska (siolo)

typowo rolnicza poludniowo-wschodniej Polski

Historia rodu:

Podczas rozbioru Polski w latach 1795-1914 Manasterz byl pod zaborem

pruskim. W wiosce Niemcy mieli duze gospodarstwa rolne tzw. Kolonie.

Pod koniec IXX, w gdy Polska odzyskiwala niepodleglosc Niemcy

sprzedawali cale gospodarstwa, a sami wyjezdzali do Niemiec. Jedno z

wiekszych gospodarstw polozone posrodku wsi Manasterz zakupil Maciej

Pawelek.( syn Józefa). Maciej zakupil dom mieszkalny, budynki

gospodarcze i okolo 20 hektarów pola uprawnego.

Senior rodu - Maciej ozeniony z Maria (Kisiel ) Pawelek byli

szanowanymi i powazanymi gospodarzami. Mieszkancy wsi zaufali

gospodarzowi i wybrali go na wójta gminy Manasterz. Maciej urzad ten

sprawowal przez wiele lat, poniewaz byl niepismienny do pomocy mial

przydzielonego sekretarza, który zajmowal sie kancelaria.





  Drogi Wujku  !!!

Wysylam czesc tego co zapisala moja mama.Zobacz czy cos z tego

odczytasz i czy bedziesz wiedzial .Nastepna porcje juz konkretnych

osób wysle za kilka dni . Ja mam u siebie w komputerze CD, tak,ze

nie ma problemu, mozesz przyslac plytke.

Sniegu Wam na razie nie bede wysylala....Waszego wystarczy .

Mama opisala historie rodu...skad wziela sie rodzina z Pawelków w

Bystrowicach.Odpisz czy to jest zrozumiale co napisalysmy .

gdzie byl blad to podkreslilam na grubo .



Pozdrowienia dla calej Rodzinki

Helena, Mieczyslaw, Teresa, Izabela, Joanna





                                                 1



1.Maciej Pawelek  ur. 1865r zmarl 1955r + Maria  Kisiel  ur.1868 r

zmarla w II.1935r

2. I. Jan Pawelek

3. II. Katarzyna Pawelek  ur.16.XI.1897 r w Manasterzu   zmarla

31.III.1996r pochowana w Rudolowicach

4. III. Walenty Pawelek  ur.24.V.1900r zmarl 20.VIII.1971r

5. IV. Józefa Pawelek

6. V. Ludwik Pawelek



Maciej i Maria byli katolikami, wszystkie dzieci zostaly ochrzczone

w kosciele katolickim w Manasterzu

Gdy dzieci dorosly, Maciej postanowil,ze synowie zostana na

ojcowiznie w Manasterzu i otrzymaja w równych czesciach pole,

natomiast córkom ( Katarzyna i Józefa) zakupili 20 hektarów pola w

Bystrowicach pow. Jaroslaw. Pole to sprzedawal obszarnik -szlachcic

z Pantalowic . Szlachcic ten przegral w karty duzo pieniedzy i

musial sprzedawac pole. Maciej w Bystrowicach zakupil cale

gospodarstwo: dom mieszkalny, budynki gospodarcze i 10 hektarów

pola...Wszystko to otrzymala Katarzyna.Józefa takze dostala 10

hektarów pola, ale bez budynków



                                                            2



2. I - Najstarszy syn  Jan 2 ( Maciej 1Pawelek )ozenil sie z

Wiktoria Zygadlo i zgodnie z wola ojca Macieja  zalozyl gospodarstwo

przy samej szosie ponizej  gospodarstwa ojców . Wybudowal budynki

gospodarcze i dom  mieszkalny drewniany, który stoi do dzis. Mieszka

w nim Wladyslawa3 (Pawelek Jan 2 Maciej1 ) Molon. Jan i Wiktoria

wychowali         9 dzieci   children; 8 córek i1 syna, sa

to:Wladyslawa, Genowefa, Maria, Kazimiera,  Janina,  Aleksandra,

Julia, Józefa

          i Mieczyslaw.

2.I  .Jan (Maciej) Pawelek urodzony w 1894r  Manasterz powiat

Przeworsk, zmarl  w 1984r  Manasterz

         zona Jana Wiktoria Zygadlo urodzona  1896 r. w Zagórzu pow.

Przeworsk.  zmarla 1971 r. Manasterz



3.II  Katarzyna 2 Pawelek ( Maciej 1)wyszla za maz za Michala

Mielniczka



Maciej wraz z rodzina jezdzil do Bystrowic uprawiac zakupione tam

pole. Po sasiedzku uprawiali pole bogaci gospodarze z Woli

Rózwienickiej pow., Jaroslaw Katarzyna wyszla za maz za syna tych

gospodarzy Michala w roku 1920. Slub wzieli w kosciele katolickim w

Manasterzu i zamieszkali w Bystrowicach w zakupionych przez Macieja

budynkach.Prowadzili duze gospodarstwo.Jako bogaci gospodarze mogli

sobie pozwolic na sluzbe.Planowali wybudowac duzy drewniany dom, ale

spotkalo ich nieszczescie, majac 39 lat umiera Michal



3.II  Katarzyna2 Mielniczek ( Pawelek ) ( Maciej1) urodzona w 1897r

w Manasterzu   zmarla  31.III.1996 r  w Bystrowicach pow. Jaroslaw ,

pochowana w Rudolowicach w rodzinnym grobowcu.

            Maz Katarzyny - Michal Mielniczek urodzony 1898 r w woli

Rózwienickiej powiat Jaroslaw zmarl  3.IV. 1937r w

Bystrowicach ,pochowany w Pelnatyczach powiat Jaroslaw. Katarzyna i

Michal mieli 4 dzieci : Helena, Jan, Józef, Wladyslaw .



4. III  Walenty 2Pawelek ( Maciej 1)urodzony 24.V.1900 r w

Manasterzu , zmarl 20.VIII.1971 r. w Manasterzu

           Aniela Mielniczek urodzona 11.XI.1901 r  w Woli

Rózwienickiej  zmarla 10.V.1989r w Manasterzu

           Aniela byla mlodsza siostra Michala Mielniczka  meza

Katarzyny .

          Walenty i Aniela wzieli slub w lutym 1923r. w Pelnatyczach

pow. Jaroslaw

          Walenty i Aniela równiez wybudowali dom mieszkalny i

budynki gospodarcze powyzej domu Macieja.

          Od tego czasu miejsce to okreslano " górka Pawelków"

          Dom ten stoi do tej pory, obecnie mieszka tam Czeslaw,

najmlodszy syn Walentego

          Walenty i Aniela mieli 4 dzieci: Julian, Helena, Adolf,

Czeslaw



5.IV   Józefa2 Pawelek  ( Maciej 1) Plowy



6.V.   Ludwik2 Pawelek (Maciej 1)urodzony w 1910r, zmarl w 1998r w

Manasterzu

           Józefa Gawel

           Ludwik mieszkal w domu rodzinnym nalezacym do Macieja,

prowadzac z nimi wspólne gospodarstwo.

           W 1937 r. ozenil sie z Józefa Gawel.

          Ludwik i Józefa mieli 4 dzieci: Irena, Zdzislaw, Anna,

Stanislaw

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "julek2205" <julian_plowy@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Please, I need some help in translating this document accurately.

>

> Thank you,

> Julek

>

> Descendants of Maciej Pawelek

>

I'm not sure about the official political administrative terms, but

this is roughly it. Perhaps a better Polish-speaker can clear things up.

>

> Historia  Rodziny Pawelków



A History of the Pawelek Family

>

> Manasterz to wioska w gminie Jawornik Polski, powiat Przeworsk, woj.

> podkarpackie z glównym miastem Rzeszów kraj Polska. Manasterz

> polozony jest u podnóza niewysokich gór Pogórza Dynowskiego, wzdluz

> szosy Przeworsk - Dynów, i biegu malej rzeki Mleczki. Wioska jest

> duza, dlugosci 8 km, ma kilka przysiólków: Rzeki, Oblasek, Mijów,

> Niewazka -sa to skupiska gospodarstw znajdujacych sie wsród gór

> polozonych powyzej glównej wioski. Manasterz jest wioska (siolo)

> typowo rolnicza poludniowo-wschodniej Polski



Manasterz is a village in the district of Jawornik Polski, county of

Przeworsk, region Podkarpackie (Subcarpathian) with its main town

Rzeszow, country of Poland. Manasterz lies at the foot of low hills

called Dynowkie Foothills, along the Przeworsk -- Dynow Road, and

along the small river Mleczka. The village is large, 8 kilometres long

and has several settlements: Rzeki, Oblaskek, Mijow, Niewazka. These

are groupings of farms lying in the hills and above the main village.

Manasterz is a typical agricultural village (siolo?) of south-eastern

Poland.

> Historia rodu:

> Podczas rozbioru Polski w latach 1795-1914 Manasterz byl pod zaborem

> pruskim. W wiosce Niemcy mieli duze gospodarstwa rolne tzw. Kolonie.

> Pod koniec IXX, w gdy Polska odzyskiwala niepodleglosc Niemcy

> sprzedawali cale gospodarstwa, a sami wyjezdzali do Niemiec. Jedno z

> wiekszych gospodarstw polozone posrodku wsi Manasterz zakupil Maciej

> Pawelek.( syn Józefa). Maciej zakupil dom mieszkalny, budynki

> gospodarcze i okolo 20 hektarów pola uprawnego.

> Senior rodu - Maciej ozeniony z Maria (Kisiel ) Pawelek byli

> szanowanymi i powazanymi gospodarzami. Mieszkancy wsi zaufali

> gospodarzowi i wybrali go na wójta gminy Manasterz. Maciej urzad ten

> sprawowal przez wiele lat, poniewaz byl niepismienny do pomocy mial

> przydzielonego sekretarza, który zajmowal sie kancelaria.



History of the family:

During the partitions of Poland in the years 1795-1914, Manasterz was

under Prussian administration. In the village, the Germans had large

agricultural holdings called Kolonies. Towards the end of the 19th

century, when Poland was recovering her independence, the Germans were

selling entire farms and leaving for Germany. Maciej (Matthew)

Pawelek, the son of Jozef (Joseph)) bought one of the larger farms

lying in the middle of the village of Manasterz. Maciej bought the

dwelling house, agricultural buildings and about 20 hectares of fields.

The heads of the family -- Maciej was married to Maria (Kisiel)

Pawelek -- were respected landlords. The villagers trusted the

landlord and chose him as head of the district Manasterz. Maciej

carried out these functions for many years, despite being illiterate,

and had a secretary to help him, who took care of paperwork.

[Julek, not too sure about this last.]

>

>

>  Drogi Wujku  !!!

> Wysylam czesc tego co zapisala moja mama.Zobacz czy cos z tego

> odczytasz i czy bedziesz wiedzial .Nastepna porcje juz konkretnych

> osób wysle za kilka dni . Ja mam u siebie w komputerze CD, tak,ze

> nie ma problemu, mozesz przyslac plytke.

> Sniegu Wam na razie nie bede wysylala....Waszego wystarczy .

> Mama opisala historie rodu...skad wziela sie rodzina z Pawelków w

> Bystrowicach.Odpisz czy to jest zrozumiale co napisalysmy .

> gdzie byl blad to podkreslilam na grubo .

>

> Pozdrowienia dla calej Rodzinki

> Helena, Mieczyslaw, Teresa, Izabela, Joanna



Dear Uncle!!!

I am sending a part of what my mother wrote. See if you can read

something and understand something of it. The next section on specific

people I will send in a few days. I have CD's in my computer at home

so there is no problem, you can send a CD.

For the time being I won't send you any snow. You have enough of your

own. Mama described the history of the family, where the Pawelek

family comes from Bystrowice. Write back to tell us whether you can

understand what we wrote. Where there are mistakes we will underline

in bold face.



Greetings to the whole family,



>

>

>                                                 1

>

> 1.Maciej Pawelek  ur. 1865r zmarl 1955r + Maria  Kisiel  ur.1868 r

> zmarla w II.1935r

> 2. I. Jan Pawelek

> 3. II. Katarzyna Pawelek  ur.16.XI.1897 r w Manasterzu   zmarla

> 31.III.1996r pochowana w Rudolowicach



K.P. died in Manasterz on March 31, 1996, is buried in Rudolowicach.



> 4. III. Walenty Pawelek  ur.24.V.1900r zmarl 20.VIII.1971r

> 5. IV. Józefa Pawelek

> 6. V. Ludwik Pawelek



ur means urodzilsie (was born), zmarl -- died; r = rok (year)

>

> Maciej i Maria byli katolikami, wszystkie dzieci zostaly ochrzczone

> w kosciele katolickim w Manasterzu

> Gdy dzieci dorosly, Maciej postanowil,ze synowie zostana na

> ojcowiznie w Manasterzu i otrzymaja w równych czesciach pole,

> natomiast córkom ( Katarzyna i Józefa) zakupili 20 hektarów pola w

> Bystrowicach pow. Jaroslaw. Pole to sprzedawal obszarnik -szlachcic

> z Pantalowic . Szlachcic ten przegral w karty duzo pieniedzy i

> musial sprzedawac pole. Maciej w Bystrowicach zakupil cale

> gospodarstwo: dom mieszkalny, budynki gospodarcze i 10 hektarów

> pola...Wszystko to otrzymala Katarzyna.Józefa takze dostala 10

> hektarów pola, ale bez budynków



Maciej and Maria were Catholics, all their children were baptized in

the Catholic church in Manasterz. When the children grew up, Maciej

decided that the sons would remain on the family holding in Manasterz

and would receive fields equally. However for the daughters (Katarzyna

and Jozefa) they bought 20 hectares of fields in Bystrowice, district

Jaroslaw. This field was being sold a [sorry - don't know what an

obszarnik -- petty noble is] from Pantalowic. This petty noble had

lost a lot of money at cards and had to sell his field. Maciej bought

up an entire farm in Bystrowicach: a dwelling house, farm buildings

and 10 hectares of fields. Katarzyna received all of this. Josefa also

got 10 hectares of fields but without buildings.

>

>                                                            2

>

> 2. I - Najstarszy syn  Jan 2 ( Maciej 1Pawelek )ozenil sie z

> Wiktoria Zygadlo i zgodnie z wola ojca Macieja  zalozyl gospodarstwo

> przy samej szosie ponizej  gospodarstwa ojców . Wybudowal budynki

> gospodarcze i dom  mieszkalny drewniany, który stoi do dzis. Mieszka

> w nim Wladyslawa3 (Pawelek Jan 2 Maciej1 ) Molon. Jan i Wiktoria

> wychowali         9 dzieci   children; 8 córek i1 syna, sa

> to:Wladyslawa, Genowefa, Maria, Kazimiera,  Janina,  Aleksandra,

> Julia, Józefa

>          i Mieczyslaw.



The eldest son Jan 2 (Maciej 1 Pawelek) married Wiktoria Zygadlo and

with the approval of his father Maciej started a farm right along the

road below the parents' farm. He built farm buildings and a wooden

dwelling house, which are still standing today. Living with him are

Wladyslawa 3 (Pawelek Jan 2, Maciej 1) Molon. Jan and Wiktoria raised

nine children: 8 daughters and one son,named: Wladyslawa, etc.





> 2.I  .Jan (Maciej) Pawelek urodzony w 1894r  Manasterz powiat

> Przeworsk, zmarl  w 1984r  Manasterz

>         zona Jana Wiktoria Zygadlo urodzona  1896 r. w Zagórzu pow.

> Przeworsk.  zmarla 1971 r. Manasterz



2.I Jan (Maciej) Pawalek born in 1894... died 1984...

>

> 3.II  Katarzyna 2 Pawelek ( Maciej 1)wyszla za maz za Michala

> Mielniczka



3.II .......... married Michal Mielniczek.

>

> Maciej wraz z rodzina jezdzil do Bystrowic uprawiac zakupione tam

> pole. Po sasiedzku uprawiali pole bogaci gospodarze z Woli

> Rózwienickiej pow., Jaroslaw Katarzyna wyszla za maz za syna tych

> gospodarzy Michala w roku 1920. Slub wzieli w kosciele katolickim w

> Manasterzu i zamieszkali w Bystrowicach w zakupionych przez Macieja

> budynkach.Prowadzili duze gospodarstwo.Jako bogaci gospodarze mogli

> sobie pozwolic na sluzbe.Planowali wybudowac duzy drewniany dom, ale

> spotkalo ich nieszczescie, majac 39 lat umiera Michal



Along with his family, Maciej used to go to Bystrowic to deal with

buying the field. As neighbours, wealthy farmers from Wola

Rozwienicka, Jaroslaw district were fixing up the field. Katarzyna

married the son of these farmers in 1920. The wedding took place at

the Catholic church in Manasterz and they lived in Bystrowice in

buildings bought by Maciej. They ran a large farm. As rich farmers,

they could afford servants. They were planning to build a large wooden

house, but unfortunately Michal died at the age of 39.

>

> 3.II  Katarzyna2 Mielniczek ( Pawelek ) ( Maciej1) urodzona w 1897r

> w Manasterzu   zmarla  31.III.1996 r  w Bystrowicach pow. Jaroslaw ,

> pochowana w Rudolowicach w rodzinnym grobowcu.



3.II. K MPM was born in 1897 in Manasterz, died 31.03.1996 in

Bystrowice, Jaroslwa district, buried in Rudolowice in the family tomb.

>            Maz Katarzyny - Michal Mielniczek urodzony 1898 r w woli

> Rózwienickiej powiat Jaroslaw zmarl  3.IV. 1937r w

> Bystrowicach ,pochowany w Pelnatyczach powiat Jaroslaw. Katarzyna i

> Michal mieli 4 dzieci : Helena, Jan, Józef, Wladyslaw .



Katarzyna's husband Michal Mielniczek was born in 1898 in Wola

Rozwienicka, district Jaroslaw, died April 3, 1937 in Bystrowice, Jar

district, buried in Pelnatyczach, Jar district. Katarzyna and Michal

had 4 children: ...

>

> 4. III  Walenty 2Pawelek ( Maciej 1)urodzony 24.V.1900 r w

> Manasterzu , zmarl 20.VIII.1971 r. w Manasterzu

>           Aniela Mielniczek urodzona 11.XI.1901 r  w Woli

> Rózwienickiej  zmarla 10.V.1989r w Manasterzu

>           Aniela byla mlodsza siostra Michala Mielniczka  meza

> Katarzyny .



Aniela was the younger sister of Michal Mielniczek, Katarzyna's husband.

>          Walenty i Aniela wzieli slub w lutym 1923r. w Pelnatyczach

> pow. Jaroslaw



Walenty and Aniela were married in February 1923 in Pelnat.

>          Walenty i Aniela równiez wybudowali dom mieszkalny i

> budynki gospodarcze powyzej domu Macieja.



W and A also built a dwelling house and farm buildings above Maciej's

house.

>          Od tego czasu miejsce to okreslano " górka Pawelków"



From that time this place is called "Pawelek's hill"

>          Dom ten stoi do tej pory, obecnie mieszka tam Czeslaw,

> najmlodszy syn Walentego



The house is still standing. Currently Czeslaw, Walenty's youngest

son, lives there.

>          Walenty i Aniela mieli 4 dzieci: Julian, Helena, Adolf,

> Czeslaw



Walenty and Aniela had 4 children: ...





>

> 5.IV   Józefa2 Pawelek  ( Maciej 1) Plowy

>

> 6.V.   Ludwik2 Pawelek (Maciej 1)urodzony w 1910r, zmarl w 1998r w

> Manasterzu

>           Józefa Gawel

>           Ludwik mieszkal w domu rodzinnym nalezacym do Macieja,

> prowadzac z nimi wspólne gospodarstwo.



Ludwik lived in the family house belonging to Maciej and ran the farm

with them.

>           W 1937 r. ozenil sie z Józefa Gawel.

>          Ludwik i Józefa mieli 4 dzieci: Irena, Zdzislaw, Anna,

> Stanislaw



In 1937 he married Jozefa Gawel. They had 4 children:...



Hope this helps,

Barbara Davoust

Toulouse, France

>

Julek,

I notice that your Polish letter mentions a village by the name of

Manasterz, province of Rzeszow and County of Przeworsk. Well, my

family was also from around that area and I have done lots of

research recently. I don't know who is wrong here, but my notes and

my maps show that the area in question was under Astrian/Habsburg

Empire rule and not under Prussian. Here's a quote from one of my

research papers "the fall of Rzeszow was speeded by the conquest of

Malopolska by the Austarian army, and, together with the extensive

territory of Malopolska (called Galicia by the conquerors) became

part of the Habsburg Empire for the next 146 years."

You may want to check on that. Do let me know your findings.















--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "julek2205" <julian_plowy@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Please, I need some help in translating this document accurately.

>

> Thank you,

> Julek

>

> Descendants of Maciej Pawelek

>

>

> Historia  Rodziny Pawelków

>

> Manasterz to wioska w gminie Jawornik Polski, powiat Przeworsk,

woj.

> podkarpackie z glównym miastem Rzeszów kraj Polska. Manasterz

> polozony jest u podnóza niewysokich gór Pogórza Dynowskiego,

wzdluz

> szosy Przeworsk - Dynów, i biegu malej rzeki Mleczki. Wioska jest

> duza, dlugosci 8 km, ma kilka przysiólków: Rzeki, Oblasek, Mijów,

> Niewazka -sa to skupiska gospodarstw znajdujacych sie wsród gór

> polozonych powyzej glównej wioski. Manasterz jest wioska (siolo)

> typowo rolnicza poludniowo-wschodniej Polski

> Historia rodu:

> Podczas rozbioru Polski w latach 1795-1914 Manasterz byl pod

zaborem

> pruskim. W wiosce Niemcy mieli duze gospodarstwa rolne tzw.

Kolonie.

> Pod koniec IXX, w gdy Polska odzyskiwala niepodleglosc Niemcy

> sprzedawali cale gospodarstwa, a sami wyjezdzali do Niemiec. Jedno

z

> wiekszych gospodarstw polozone posrodku wsi Manasterz zakupil

Maciej

> Pawelek.( syn Józefa). Maciej zakupil dom mieszkalny, budynki

> gospodarcze i okolo 20 hektarów pola uprawnego.

> Senior rodu - Maciej ozeniony z Maria (Kisiel ) Pawelek byli

> szanowanymi i powazanymi gospodarzami. Mieszkancy wsi zaufali

> gospodarzowi i wybrali go na wójta gminy Manasterz. Maciej urzad

ten

> sprawowal przez wiele lat, poniewaz byl niepismienny do pomocy

mial

> przydzielonego sekretarza, który zajmowal sie kancelaria.

>

>

>  Drogi Wujku  !!!

> Wysylam czesc tego co zapisala moja mama.Zobacz czy cos z tego

> odczytasz i czy bedziesz wiedzial .Nastepna porcje juz konkretnych

> osób wysle za kilka dni . Ja mam u siebie w komputerze CD, tak,ze

> nie ma problemu, mozesz przyslac plytke.

> Sniegu Wam na razie nie bede wysylala....Waszego wystarczy .

> Mama opisala historie rodu...skad wziela sie rodzina z Pawelków w

> Bystrowicach.Odpisz czy to jest zrozumiale co napisalysmy .

> gdzie byl blad to podkreslilam na grubo .

>

> Pozdrowienia dla calej Rodzinki

> Helena, Mieczyslaw, Teresa, Izabela, Joanna

>

>

>                                                 1

>

> 1.Maciej Pawelek  ur. 1865r zmarl 1955r + Maria  Kisiel  ur.1868

r

> zmarla w II.1935r

> 2. I. Jan Pawelek

> 3. II. Katarzyna Pawelek  ur.16.XI.1897 r w Manasterzu   zmarla

> 31.III.1996r pochowana w Rudolowicach

> 4. III. Walenty Pawelek  ur.24.V.1900r zmarl 20.VIII.1971r

> 5. IV. Józefa Pawelek

> 6. V. Ludwik Pawelek

>

> Maciej i Maria byli katolikami, wszystkie dzieci zostaly

ochrzczone

> w kosciele katolickim w Manasterzu

> Gdy dzieci dorosly, Maciej postanowil,ze synowie zostana na

> ojcowiznie w Manasterzu i otrzymaja w równych czesciach pole,

> natomiast córkom ( Katarzyna i Józefa) zakupili 20 hektarów pola w

> Bystrowicach pow. Jaroslaw. Pole to sprzedawal obszarnik -

szlachcic

> z Pantalowic . Szlachcic ten przegral w karty duzo pieniedzy i

> musial sprzedawac pole. Maciej w Bystrowicach zakupil cale

> gospodarstwo: dom mieszkalny, budynki gospodarcze i 10 hektarów

> pola...Wszystko to otrzymala Katarzyna.Józefa takze dostala 10

> hektarów pola, ale bez budynków

>

>                                                            2

>

> 2. I - Najstarszy syn  Jan 2 ( Maciej 1Pawelek )ozenil sie z

> Wiktoria Zygadlo i zgodnie z wola ojca Macieja  zalozyl

gospodarstwo

> przy samej szosie ponizej  gospodarstwa ojców . Wybudowal budynki

> gospodarcze i dom  mieszkalny drewniany, który stoi do dzis.

Mieszka

> w nim Wladyslawa3 (Pawelek Jan 2 Maciej1 ) Molon. Jan i Wiktoria

> wychowali         9 dzieci   children; 8 córek i1 syna, sa

> to:Wladyslawa, Genowefa, Maria, Kazimiera,  Janina,  Aleksandra,

> Julia, Józefa

>          i Mieczyslaw.

> 2.I  .Jan (Maciej) Pawelek urodzony w 1894r  Manasterz powiat

> Przeworsk, zmarl  w 1984r  Manasterz

>         zona Jana Wiktoria Zygadlo urodzona  1896 r. w Zagórzu

pow.

> Przeworsk.  zmarla 1971 r. Manasterz

>

> 3.II  Katarzyna 2 Pawelek ( Maciej 1)wyszla za maz za Michala

> Mielniczka

>

> Maciej wraz z rodzina jezdzil do Bystrowic uprawiac zakupione tam

> pole. Po sasiedzku uprawiali pole bogaci gospodarze z Woli

> Rózwienickiej pow., Jaroslaw Katarzyna wyszla za maz za syna tych

> gospodarzy Michala w roku 1920. Slub wzieli w kosciele katolickim

w

> Manasterzu i zamieszkali w Bystrowicach w zakupionych przez

Macieja

> budynkach.Prowadzili duze gospodarstwo.Jako bogaci gospodarze

mogli

> sobie pozwolic na sluzbe.Planowali wybudowac duzy drewniany dom,

ale

> spotkalo ich nieszczescie, majac 39 lat umiera Michal

>

> 3.II  Katarzyna2 Mielniczek ( Pawelek ) ( Maciej1) urodzona w

1897r

> w Manasterzu   zmarla  31.III.1996 r  w Bystrowicach pow.

Jaroslaw ,

> pochowana w Rudolowicach w rodzinnym grobowcu.

>            Maz Katarzyny - Michal Mielniczek urodzony 1898 r w

woli

> Rózwienickiej powiat Jaroslaw zmarl  3.IV. 1937r w

> Bystrowicach ,pochowany w Pelnatyczach powiat Jaroslaw. Katarzyna

i

> Michal mieli 4 dzieci : Helena, Jan, Józef, Wladyslaw .

>

> 4. III  Walenty 2Pawelek ( Maciej 1)urodzony 24.V.1900 r w

> Manasterzu , zmarl 20.VIII.1971 r. w Manasterzu

>           Aniela Mielniczek urodzona 11.XI.1901 r  w Woli

> Rózwienickiej  zmarla 10.V.1989r w Manasterzu

>           Aniela byla mlodsza siostra Michala Mielniczka  meza

> Katarzyny .

>          Walenty i Aniela wzieli slub w lutym 1923r. w

Pelnatyczach

> pow. Jaroslaw

>          Walenty i Aniela równiez wybudowali dom mieszkalny i

> budynki gospodarcze powyzej domu Macieja.

>          Od tego czasu miejsce to okreslano " górka Pawelków"

>          Dom ten stoi do tej pory, obecnie mieszka tam Czeslaw,

> najmlodszy syn Walentego

>          Walenty i Aniela mieli 4 dzieci: Julian, Helena, Adolf,

> Czeslaw

>

> 5.IV   Józefa2 Pawelek  ( Maciej 1) Plowy

>

> 6.V.   Ludwik2 Pawelek (Maciej 1)urodzony w 1910r, zmarl w 1998r w

> Manasterzu

>           Józefa Gawel

>           Ludwik mieszkal w domu rodzinnym nalezacym do Macieja,

> prowadzac z nimi wspólne gospodarstwo.

>           W 1937 r. ozenil sie z Józefa Gawel.

>          Ludwik i Józefa mieli 4 dzieci: Irena, Zdzislaw, Anna,

> Stanislaw

>

Julek,

While I was doing the translation, I too thought that the Rzeszow area

was more likely to be under Austro-Hungarian administration, given its

location in south-eastern Poland. Perhaps your relatives called them

"Prussians" because the settlers were German-speaking?



Barbara Davoust







--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "bechta1936" <bechta1936@...> wrote:

>

> Julek,

> I notice that your Polish letter mentions a village by the name of

> Manasterz, province of Rzeszow and County of Przeworsk. Well, my

> family was also from around that area and I have done lots of

> research recently. I don't know who is wrong here, but my notes and

> my maps show that the area in question was under Astrian/Habsburg

> Empire rule and not under Prussian. Here's a quote from one of my

> research papers "the fall of Rzeszow was speeded by the conquest of

> Malopolska by the Austarian army, and, together with the extensive

> territory of Malopolska (called Galicia by the conquerors) became

> part of the Habsburg Empire for the next 146 years."

> You may want to check on that. Do let me know your findings.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "julek2205" <julian_plowy@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Please, I need some help in translating this document accurately.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Julek

> >

> > Descendants of Maciej Pawelek

> >

> >

> > Historia  Rodziny Pawelków

> >

> > Manasterz to wioska w gminie Jawornik Polski, powiat Przeworsk,

> woj.

> > podkarpackie z glównym miastem Rzeszów kraj Polska. Manasterz

> > polozony jest u podnóza niewysokich gór Pogórza Dynowskiego,

> wzdluz

> > szosy Przeworsk - Dynów, i biegu malej rzeki Mleczki. Wioska jest

> > duza, dlugosci 8 km, ma kilka przysiólków: Rzeki, Oblasek, Mijów,

> > Niewazka -sa to skupiska gospodarstw znajdujacych sie wsród gór

> > polozonych powyzej glównej wioski. Manasterz jest wioska (siolo)

> > typowo rolnicza poludniowo-wschodniej Polski

> > Historia rodu:

> > Podczas rozbioru Polski w latach 1795-1914 Manasterz byl pod

> zaborem

> > pruskim. W wiosce Niemcy mieli duze gospodarstwa rolne tzw.

> Kolonie.

> > Pod koniec IXX, w gdy Polska odzyskiwala niepodleglosc Niemcy

> > sprzedawali cale gospodarstwa, a sami wyjezdzali do Niemiec. Jedno

> z

> > wiekszych gospodarstw polozone posrodku wsi Manasterz zakupil

> Maciej

> > Pawelek.( syn Józefa). Maciej zakupil dom mieszkalny, budynki

> > gospodarcze i okolo 20 hektarów pola uprawnego.

> > Senior rodu - Maciej ozeniony z Maria (Kisiel ) Pawelek byli

> > szanowanymi i powazanymi gospodarzami. Mieszkancy wsi zaufali

> > gospodarzowi i wybrali go na wójta gminy Manasterz. Maciej urzad

> ten

> > sprawowal przez wiele lat, poniewaz byl niepismienny do pomocy

> mial

> > przydzielonego sekretarza, który zajmowal sie kancelaria.

> >

> >

> >  Drogi Wujku  !!!

> > Wysylam czesc tego co zapisala moja mama.Zobacz czy cos z tego

> > odczytasz i czy bedziesz wiedzial .Nastepna porcje juz konkretnych

> > osób wysle za kilka dni . Ja mam u siebie w komputerze CD, tak,ze

> > nie ma problemu, mozesz przyslac plytke.

> > Sniegu Wam na razie nie bede wysylala....Waszego wystarczy .

> > Mama opisala historie rodu...skad wziela sie rodzina z Pawelków w

> > Bystrowicach.Odpisz czy to jest zrozumiale co napisalysmy .

> > gdzie byl blad to podkreslilam na grubo .

> >

> > Pozdrowienia dla calej Rodzinki

> > Helena, Mieczyslaw, Teresa, Izabela, Joanna

> >

> >

> >                                                 1

> >

> > 1.Maciej Pawelek  ur. 1865r zmarl 1955r + Maria  Kisiel  ur.1868

> r

> > zmarla w II.1935r

> > 2. I. Jan Pawelek

> > 3. II. Katarzyna Pawelek  ur.16.XI.1897 r w Manasterzu   zmarla

> > 31.III.1996r pochowana w Rudolowicach

> > 4. III. Walenty Pawelek  ur.24.V.1900r zmarl 20.VIII.1971r

> > 5. IV. Józefa Pawelek

> > 6. V. Ludwik Pawelek

> >

> > Maciej i Maria byli katolikami, wszystkie dzieci zostaly

> ochrzczone

> > w kosciele katolickim w Manasterzu

> > Gdy dzieci dorosly, Maciej postanowil,ze synowie zostana na

> > ojcowiznie w Manasterzu i otrzymaja w równych czesciach pole,

> > natomiast córkom ( Katarzyna i Józefa) zakupili 20 hektarów pola w

> > Bystrowicach pow. Jaroslaw. Pole to sprzedawal obszarnik -

> szlachcic

> > z Pantalowic . Szlachcic ten przegral w karty duzo pieniedzy i

> > musial sprzedawac pole. Maciej w Bystrowicach zakupil cale

> > gospodarstwo: dom mieszkalny, budynki gospodarcze i 10 hektarów

> > pola...Wszystko to otrzymala Katarzyna.Józefa takze dostala 10

> > hektarów pola, ale bez budynków

> >

> >                                                            2

> >

> > 2. I - Najstarszy syn  Jan 2 ( Maciej 1Pawelek )ozenil sie z

> > Wiktoria Zygadlo i zgodnie z wola ojca Macieja  zalozyl

> gospodarstwo

> > przy samej szosie ponizej  gospodarstwa ojców . Wybudowal budynki

> > gospodarcze i dom  mieszkalny drewniany, który stoi do dzis.

> Mieszka

> > w nim Wladyslawa3 (Pawelek Jan 2 Maciej1 ) Molon. Jan i Wiktoria

> > wychowali         9 dzieci   children; 8 córek i1 syna, sa

> > to:Wladyslawa, Genowefa, Maria, Kazimiera,  Janina,  Aleksandra,

> > Julia, Józefa

> >          i Mieczyslaw.

> > 2.I  .Jan (Maciej) Pawelek urodzony w 1894r  Manasterz powiat

> > Przeworsk, zmarl  w 1984r  Manasterz

> >         zona Jana Wiktoria Zygadlo urodzona  1896 r. w Zagórzu

> pow.

> > Przeworsk.  zmarla 1971 r. Manasterz

> >

> > 3.II  Katarzyna 2 Pawelek ( Maciej 1)wyszla za maz za Michala

> > Mielniczka

> >

> > Maciej wraz z rodzina jezdzil do Bystrowic uprawiac zakupione tam

> > pole. Po sasiedzku uprawiali pole bogaci gospodarze z Woli

> > Rózwienickiej pow., Jaroslaw Katarzyna wyszla za maz za syna tych

> > gospodarzy Michala w roku 1920. Slub wzieli w kosciele katolickim

> w

> > Manasterzu i zamieszkali w Bystrowicach w zakupionych przez

> Macieja

> > budynkach.Prowadzili duze gospodarstwo.Jako bogaci gospodarze

> mogli

> > sobie pozwolic na sluzbe.Planowali wybudowac duzy drewniany dom,

> ale

> > spotkalo ich nieszczescie, majac 39 lat umiera Michal

> >

> > 3.II  Katarzyna2 Mielniczek ( Pawelek ) ( Maciej1) urodzona w

> 1897r

> > w Manasterzu   zmarla  31.III.1996 r  w Bystrowicach pow.

> Jaroslaw ,

> > pochowana w Rudolowicach w rodzinnym grobowcu.

> >            Maz Katarzyny - Michal Mielniczek urodzony 1898 r w

> woli

> > Rózwienickiej powiat Jaroslaw zmarl  3.IV. 1937r w

> > Bystrowicach ,pochowany w Pelnatyczach powiat Jaroslaw. Katarzyna

> i

> > Michal mieli 4 dzieci : Helena, Jan, Józef, Wladyslaw .

> >

> > 4. III  Walenty 2Pawelek ( Maciej 1)urodzony 24.V.1900 r w

> > Manasterzu , zmarl 20.VIII.1971 r. w Manasterzu

> >           Aniela Mielniczek urodzona 11.XI.1901 r  w Woli

> > Rózwienickiej  zmarla 10.V.1989r w Manasterzu

> >           Aniela byla mlodsza siostra Michala Mielniczka  meza

> > Katarzyny .

> >          Walenty i Aniela wzieli slub w lutym 1923r. w

> Pelnatyczach

> > pow. Jaroslaw

> >          Walenty i Aniela równiez wybudowali dom mieszkalny i

> > budynki gospodarcze powyzej domu Macieja.

> >          Od tego czasu miejsce to okreslano " górka Pawelków"

> >          Dom ten stoi do tej pory, obecnie mieszka tam Czeslaw,

> > najmlodszy syn Walentego

> >          Walenty i Aniela mieli 4 dzieci: Julian, Helena, Adolf,

> > Czeslaw

> >

> > 5.IV   Józefa2 Pawelek  ( Maciej 1) Plowy

> >

> > 6.V.   Ludwik2 Pawelek (Maciej 1)urodzony w 1910r, zmarl w 1998r w

> > Manasterzu

> >           Józefa Gawel

> >           Ludwik mieszkal w domu rodzinnym nalezacym do Macieja,

> > prowadzac z nimi wspólne gospodarstwo.

> >           W 1937 r. ozenil sie z Józefa Gawel.

> >          Ludwik i Józefa mieli 4 dzieci: Irena, Zdzislaw, Anna,

> > Stanislaw

> >

>

Julek,
While I was doing the translation, I too thought that the Rzeszow area
was more likely to be under Austro-Hungarian administration, given its
location in south-eastern Poland. Perhaps your relatives called them
"Prussians" because the settlers were German-speaking?

Barbara Davoust



--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "bechta1936" wrote:
>
> Julek,
> I notice that your Polish letter mentions a village by the name of
> Manasterz, province of Rzeszow and County of Przeworsk. Well, my
> family was also from around that area and I have done lots of
> research recently. I don't know who is wrong here, but my notes and
> my maps show that the area in question was under Astrian/Habsburg
> Empire rule and not under Prussian. Here's a quote from one of my
> research papers "the fall of Rzeszow was speeded by the conquest of
> Malopolska by the Austarian army, and, together with the extensive
> territory of Malopolska (called Galicia by the conquerors) became
> part of the Habsburg Empire for the next 146 years."
> You may want to check on that. Do let me know your findings.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "julek2205"
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Please, I need some help in translating this document accurately.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Julek
> >
> > Descendants of Maciej Pawelek
> >
> >
> > Historia Rodziny Pawelków
> >
> > Manasterz to wioska w gminie Jawornik Polski, powiat Przeworsk,
> woj.
> > podkarpackie z glównym miastem Rzeszów kraj Polska. Manasterz
> > polozony jest u podnóza niewysokich gór Pogórza Dynowskiego,
> wzdluz
> > szosy Przeworsk - Dynów, i biegu malej rzeki Mleczki. Wioska jest
> > duza, dlugosci 8 km, ma kilka przysiólków: Rzeki, Oblasek, Mijów,
> > Niewazka -sa to skupiska gospodarstw znajdujacych sie wsród gór
> > polozonych powyzej glównej wioski. Manasterz jest wioska (siolo)
> > typowo rolnicza poludniowo-wschodniej Polski
> > Historia rodu:
> > Podczas rozbioru Polski w latach 1795-1914 Manasterz byl pod
> zaborem
> > pruskim. W wiosce Niemcy mieli duze gospodarstwa rolne tzw.
> Kolonie.
> > Pod koniec IXX, w gdy Polska odzyskiwala niepodleglosc Niemcy
> > sprzedawali cale gospodarstwa, a sami wyjezdzali do Niemiec. Jedno
> z
> > wiekszych gospodarstw polozone posrodku wsi Manasterz zakupil
> Maciej
> > Pawelek.( syn Józefa). Maciej zakupil dom mieszkalny, budynki
> > gospodarcze i okolo 20 hektarów pola uprawnego.
> > Senior rodu - Maciej ozeniony z Maria (Kisiel ) Pawelek byli
> > szanowanymi i powazanymi gospodarzami. Mieszkancy wsi zaufali
> > gospodarzowi i wybrali go na wójta gminy Manasterz. Maciej urzad
> ten
> > sprawowal przez wiele lat, poniewaz byl niepismienny do pomocy
> mial
> > przydzielonego sekretarza, który zajmowal sie kancelaria.
> >
> >
> > Drogi Wujku !!!
> > Wysylam czesc tego co zapisala moja mama.Zobacz czy cos z tego
> > odczytasz i czy bedziesz wiedzial .Nastepna porcje juz konkretnych
> > osób wysle za kilka dni . Ja mam u siebie w komputerze CD, tak,ze
> > nie ma problemu, mozesz przyslac plytke.
> > Sniegu Wam na razie nie bede wysylala....Waszego wystarczy .
> > Mama opisala historie rodu...skad wziela sie rodzina z Pawelków w
> > Bystrowicach.Odpisz czy to jest zrozumiale co napisalysmy .
> > gdzie byl blad to podkreslilam na grubo .
> >
> > Pozdrowienia dla calej Rodzinki
> > Helena, Mieczyslaw, Teresa, Izabela, Joanna
> >
> >
> > 1
> >
> > 1.Maciej Pawelek ur. 1865r zmarl 1955r + Maria Kisiel ur.1868
> r
> > zmarla w II.1935r
> > 2. I. Jan Pawelek
> > 3. II. Katarzyna Pawelek ur.16.XI.1897 r w Manasterzu zmarla
> > 31.III.1996r pochowana w Rudolowicach
> > 4. III. Walenty Pawelek ur.24.V.1900r zmarl 20.VIII.1971r
> > 5. IV. Józefa Pawelek
> > 6. V. Ludwik Pawelek
> >
> > Maciej i Maria byli katolikami, wszystkie dzieci zostaly
> ochrzczone
> > w kosciele katolickim w Manasterzu
> > Gdy dzieci dorosly, Maciej postanowil,ze synowie zostana na
> > ojcowiznie w Manasterzu i otrzymaja w równych czesciach pole,
> > natomiast córkom ( Katarzyna i Józefa) zakupili 20 hektarów pola w
> > Bystrowicach pow. Jaroslaw. Pole to sprzedawal obszarnik -
> szlachcic
> > z Pantalowic . Szlachcic ten przegral w karty duzo pieniedzy i
> > musial sprzedawac pole. Maciej w Bystrowicach zakupil cale
> > gospodarstwo: dom mieszkalny, budynki gospodarcze i 10 hektarów
> > pola...Wszystko to otrzymala Katarzyna.Józefa takze dostala 10
> > hektarów pola, ale bez budynków
> >
> > 2
> >
> > 2. I - Najstarszy syn Jan 2 ( Maciej 1Pawelek )ozenil sie z
> > Wiktoria Zygadlo i zgodnie z wola ojca Macieja zalozyl
> gospodarstwo
> > przy samej szosie ponizej gospodarstwa ojców . Wybudowal budynki
> > gospodarcze i dom mieszkalny drewniany, który stoi do dzis.
> Mieszka
> > w nim Wladyslawa3 (Pawelek Jan 2 Maciej1 ) Molon. Jan i Wiktoria
> > wychowali 9 dzieci children; 8 córek i1 syna, sa
> > to:Wladyslawa, Genowefa, Maria, Kazimiera, Janina, Aleksandra,
> > Julia, Józefa
> > i Mieczyslaw.
> > 2.I .Jan (Maciej) Pawelek urodzony w 1894r Manasterz powiat
> > Przeworsk, zmarl w 1984r Manasterz
> > zona Jana Wiktoria Zygadlo urodzona 1896 r. w Zagórzu
> pow.
> > Przeworsk. zmarla 1971 r. Manasterz
> >
> > 3.II Katarzyna 2 Pawelek ( Maciej 1)wyszla za maz za Michala
> > Mielniczka
> >
> > Maciej wraz z rodzina jezdzil do Bystrowic uprawiac zakupione tam
> > pole. Po sasiedzku uprawiali pole bogaci gospodarze z Woli
> > Rózwienickiej pow., Jaroslaw Katarzyna wyszla za maz za syna tych
> > gospodarzy Michala w roku 1920. Slub wzieli w kosciele katolickim
> w
> > Manasterzu i zamieszkali w Bystrowicach w zakupionych przez
> Macieja
> > budynkach.Prowadzili duze gospodarstwo.Jako bogaci gospodarze
> mogli
> > sobie pozwolic na sluzbe.Planowali wybudowac duzy drewniany dom,
> ale
> > spotkalo ich nieszczescie, majac 39 lat umiera Michal
> >
> > 3.II Katarzyna2 Mielniczek ( Pawelek ) ( Maciej1) urodzona w
> 1897r
> > w Manasterzu zmarla 31.III.1996 r w Bystrowicach pow.
> Jaroslaw ,
> > pochowana w Rudolowicach w rodzinnym grobowcu.
> > Maz Katarzyny - Michal Mielniczek urodzony 1898 r w
> woli
> > Rózwienickiej powiat Jaroslaw zmarl 3.IV. 1937r w
> > Bystrowicach ,pochowany w Pelnatyczach powiat Jaroslaw. Katarzyna
> i
> > Michal mieli 4 dzieci : Helena, Jan, Józef, Wladyslaw .
> >
> > 4. III Walenty 2Pawelek ( Maciej 1)urodzony 24.V.1900 r w
> > Manasterzu , zmarl 20.VIII.1971 r. w Manasterzu
> > Aniela Mielniczek urodzona 11.XI.1901 r w Woli
> > Rózwienickiej zmarla 10.V.1989r w Manasterzu
> > Aniela byla mlodsza siostra Michala Mielniczka meza
> > Katarzyny .
> > Walenty i Aniela wzieli slub w lutym 1923r. w
> Pelnatyczach
> > pow. Jaroslaw
> > Walenty i Aniela równiez wybudowali dom mieszkalny i
> > budynki gospodarcze powyzej domu Macieja.
> > Od tego czasu miejsce to okreslano " górka Pawelków"
> > Dom ten stoi do tej pory, obecnie mieszka tam Czeslaw,
> > najmlodszy syn Walentego
> > Walenty i Aniela mieli 4 dzieci: Julian, Helena, Adolf,
> > Czeslaw
> >
> > 5.IV Józefa2 Pawelek ( Maciej 1) Plowy
> >
> > 6.V. Ludwik2 Pawelek (Maciej 1)urodzony w 1910r, zmarl w 1998r w
> > Manasterzu
> > Józefa Gawel
> > Ludwik mieszkal w domu rodzinnym nalezacym do Macieja,
> > prowadzac z nimi wspólne gospodarstwo.
> > W 1937 r. ozenil sie z Józefa Gawel.
> > Ludwik i Józefa mieli 4 dzieci: Irena, Zdzislaw, Anna,
> > Stanislaw
> >
>






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Joy,

It looks like Hungarian. "eszt" means Estonian, as far as I've been

able to figure out. "Betinek" is probably a name. Sounds Slavic to

me, Czech or Slovak perhaps, though I see it mentioned mostly on

Hungarian sites in Google.



Have a look at some words with the root "eszt":



"http://consulting.medios.fi/dictionary/?

language=hu&search=eszt&allow=true"



Did you copy these words down or did you hear them ? What is the

context ?



Andy Golebiowski

Buffalo, N.Y.

USA



--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Mandel1028@... wrote:

>

> Is there anyone who can translate the following: eszt Betinek?  I

am  not

> even sure what language it is.  Polish? Russian?

>

> Thank you.

> Joy

>

Joy,

I spoke with a Hungarian friend of mine, who said that "eszt" may be

short for the name "Eszter".



Andy Golebiowski

Buffalo, NY

USA



--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Mandel1028@... wrote:

>

> Is there anyone who can translate the following: eszt Betinek?  I am

not

> even sure what language it is.  Polish? Russian?

>

> Thank you.

> Joy

>

No, but then again, look how many people write "polish" instead of "Polish".

Perhaps there are some Hungarian resources where you live, which is ?



Andy Golebiowski

Buffalo, NY

USA



--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Mandel1028@... wrote:

>

> Andy,

>

> Thank you!  That could be it.  Do Hungarian names normally  use lower case

> for the first letter?

>

> Joy

>

No, but then again, look how many people write "polish" instead of "Polish".
Perhaps there are some Hungarian resources where you live, which is ?

Andy Golebiowski
Buffalo, NY
USA

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Mandel1028@... wrote:
>
> Andy,
>
> Thank you! That could be it. Do Hungarian names normally use lower case
> for the first letter?
>
> Joy
>

Hello Antoni,

  No I have not emigrated &so sorry for the long delay in sending this e-

mail; due to the fact I wrote to the Hoover Archives in California,USA

  hoping to receive news of my husband Michal Pukiello you may recall I

e-mailed you after I had purchased my laptop at the tender age of 83.

   i am very into it now and cannot believe what I have found out & also

  I read all your replies to other members-SUPERB.

  I wonder if I sent you the details the Archives sent, could you please

translate for me , or tell me howto go about it as my Polish is very

limited.

   I have it on my laptop & will send it if that is OK.

  Look forward in anticipation, hope you are well.

                                   Regards Cynthia.

Could someone kindly translate this sentence for me:



Wykaz poleglych i zmarlych zolnierzy Polskich Sit(?) Zbrojnych na obczyznie

w  latach 1939-1946, Londyn 1952 - strona.



Thank you so much.

Joy







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Joy,



Translated into English, the statement means: "Register of killed and

deceased soldiers of the Polish Armed Forces abroad (or in exile) in the

years 1939-1946, London 1952 - page."



Witold



On Jan 17, 2008 2:00 PM, <Mandel1028@...> wrote:



>   Could someone kindly translate this sentence for me:

>

> Wykaz poleglych i zmarlych zolnierzy Polskich Sit(?) Zbrojnych na

> obczyznie

> w latach 1939-1946, Londyn 1952 - strona.

>

> Thank you so much.

> Joy

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>





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Witold,

Thank you very much.  I really appreciate it.

Joy







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I think (difficult to read a couple of the words) it says something like "My

dear friends who laid the road to O??????"



Rys

UK



--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Vincent Geffroy" <geffroy@...> wrote:

>

> I have this inscription on the reverse side of one of my father's photos.

Could somebody please translate into English for me.

>

> Thanks

> Karen Geffroy (Nikiel)

> Cape Town

>

It says:

"To my dear colleague who paves the way to homeland".



Best,

Olga Linkiewicz

NY, USA



--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "ryszardsys" <ryszardsys@...> wrote:

>

> I think (difficult to read a couple of the words) it says something like "My

dear friends who laid the road to O??????"

>

> Rys

> UK

>

> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Vincent Geffroy" <geffroy@> wrote:

> >

> > I have this inscription on the reverse side of one of my father's photos.

Could somebody please translate into English for me.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Karen Geffroy (Nikiel)

> > Cape Town

> >

>