Hi Amy, there's something quite wonderful about the contrast of having
transcribed post-it notes on a world odyssey and your mother's part in valuing
your father's experiences, as well as having some interesting mementos.

My father kept a scrap of map that helped him get to Anders' Army and a
parachute fragment of a German pilot shot down over England. There was a general
superstition that if you carried a square of parachute in your pocket you'd
never have to use one again.

He also had a silver ring designed from a silver coin in Baghdad, 19 42, of a
soldier between two palm trees but sold that for cigarettes.

Cheers,
Jenny Skulski
Vancouver, BC

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Amelia Remmert <aremmert@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>  
> My dad, a soldier at the beginning of WWII and imprisoned in numerous places
in Russia, eventually landed in Siberia.  After the big release, he fought in
the Polish Div. of  8th English Army and was in the signal corp.  He was in
North Africa and numerous places in Italy, and fought at Monte Cassino.
>  
> Because he did not read English well, my mother read An Army in Exile to him
outloud. Although I have no knowledge of whether the statics are correct, my dad
could relate very well to the entire saga.  He rarely talked about his
experiences but the book triggered his willingness to relate his own
experiences.  So my mother began writing his personal stories and memories on
post-it notes on the pages of the book to which they related.  I have since
transcribed those notes but left the post-its in the book so they don't lose
their full meaning as they relate to the various incidents.  According to my
dad, Anders got the facts pretty darn well.  My dad was 24 when the war started.
>  
> I think this book was instrumental in giving dad the interest and maybe
permission to begin to tell his story.  However, I think if it wasn't for my
mother, some of artifacts of his time in the army would have been lost.  We
still have his paybook issued by the English, his shaving brush and razor, his
commendations and the Monte Cassino Cross, his army drivers license and his
ensignias from his uniform as maybe a few more items.  At one time we even had a
beret that he wore but that has been lost.
>  
> Amy Remmert
> Kalamazoo Michigan   
>

I was very moved and inspired by "Army in Exile".  To me Anders' leadership,
integrity and personal charisma are made almost tangible in his writings.

My husband, whose family has been in the U.S. since at least the 18th century,
was equally impressed with Anders' account of the war; so much so that we found
a copy to give to his brother.

On a personal note, my father is mentioned twice, although not by name!

The first time is on p.16 (Battery Press, U.S. ed.)when Anders mentions that
many people came to see him in the hospital in Łwow (this was in early to
mid October). My father, a young officer, came in civilian clothes to ask
permission of General Anders for him to escape through Hungary.  Anders not only
assented, he gave my father some money to help during his travels (after many
incidents, he arrived in Paris on 1.12.39).

The second mention is on p.105, Chapter XI, where Anders writes that many of the
officers he met in Scotland in April '42 had fought with him in Poland and had
also visited him in the hospital in Łwow (my father was among Sikorski's
first paratrooper trainees but he eventually requested and was granted a
transfer to the Middle East).

So maybe I am not being very objective about the book, but I still would highly
recommend it to all of our members!

Czeszcz,
Alex.

Group please welcome  Rebecca to the group. She is interested in learning more
about the experiences of others like her grandmother who suffered deportation
from her homeland in Poland to Siberian camps and eventually came to England via
Persia and Kenya. Rebecca, I'm sure our group has a wealth of information and
experiences to share with you and your grandmother.
Best Wishes
Helen Bitner
Colchester
U.K.

Rebecca, here is a very affecting article about the Poles coming to
Persia (Iran):

http://www.parstimes.com/history/polish_refugees/exodus_russia.html

Blue skies! -- Dan Ford


On 9/8/2011 7:55 AM, Helen Bitner wrote:
>
> Group please welcome Rebecca to the group. She is interested in
> learning more about the experiences of others like her grandmother who
> suffered deportation from her homeland in Poland to Siberian camps and
> eventually came to England via Persia and Kenya. Rebecca, I'm sure our
> group has a wealth of information and experiences to share with you
> and your grandmother.
>
>

He must have been in his 70's or 80's! Pretty brave way to commemorate the war.

Cheers,
Jenny

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, AtticusFinch1048@... wrote:
>
> Saying that about parachute squares in the pocket - my Grandad was a Polish
>  Paratrooper and was at Operation Market Garden and on the 50 year
> anniversary he  did the jump again - he told our family it would be nice to
jump out
> and not  being shot at by the Germans for a change!
>
> God Bless him and his comrades
>
> Pawel
> Manchester UK
>
>
> In a message dated 07/09/2011 18:02:14 GMT Daylight Time,
> seasidejenny@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Amy, there's something quite wonderful about the contrast of having
> transcribed post-it notes on a world odyssey and your mother's part in valuing
> your father's experiences, as well as having some interesting  mementos.
>
> My father kept a scrap of map that helped him get to Anders'  Army and a
> parachute fragment of a German pilot shot down over England. There  was a
> general superstition that if you carried a square of parachute in your  pocket
> you'd never have to use one again.
>
> He also had a silver ring  designed from a silver coin in Baghdad, 19 42,
> of a soldier between two palm  trees but sold that for cigarettes.
>
> Cheers,
> Jenny  Skulski
> Vancouver, BC
>
> --- In _Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com) ,  Amelia Remmert <aremmert@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > My dad, a soldier at the beginning of WWII and imprisoned  in numerous
> places in Russia, eventually landed in Siberia.  After the  big release, he
> fought in the Polish Div. of  8th English Army and was in  the signal corp.
> He was in North Africa and numerous places  in Italy, and fought at Monte
> Cassino.
> >
> > Because he  did not read English well, my mother read An Army in Exile to
> him outloud.  Although I have no knowledge of whether the statics are
> correct, my dad could  relate very well to the entire saga.  He rarely talked
> about his  experiences but the book triggered his willingness to relate his
own
>  experiences.  So my mother began writing his personal stories and
> memories on post-it notes on the pages of the book to which they  related.  I
have
> since transcribed those notes but left the post-its  in the book so they
> don't lose their full meaning as they relate to the  various incidents.
> According to my dad, Anders got the facts pretty darn  well.  My dad was 24
when
> the war started.
> >
> > I think  this book was instrumental in giving dad the interest and maybe
> permission to  begin to tell his story.  However, I think if it wasn't for
> my  mother, some of artifacts of his time in the army would have been lost.
> We still have his paybook issued by the English, his shaving brush and
> razor,  his commendations and the Monte Cassino Cross, his army drivers
license
> and his ensignias from his uniform as maybe a few more items.  At one  time
> we even had a beret that he wore but that has been lost.
> >
> > Amy Remmert
> > Kalamazoo  Michigan
> >
>

Barb,

Another approach is to google "Polish recipes". Uou get a host of links with all
kinds of useful recipes. I do this all the time.

http://tinyurl.com/42rl5sk

Barbara Charuba
BArrie ON Canada

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Dunleavy <barbaraszczepanski@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I hope the group won't mind my off topic request.  I was recently in Poland
and
> loved some of the dishes. Can anyone recommend a Polish cookery book (in
> English) so that I can try to reproduce some of these delicious dishes.
> I have looked on Amazon but there are quite a few and I would  prefer a book
> that one of you had found to be good and useful.
>
>
> love to you all
>
> Barbara, Nottingham.
>

Barbara,

The  largest and most comprehensive book out there is Rob Stybel's book. Rob is
an American born correspondent who's been living in Poland for quite a long
time. He wrote the book with his Polish-born wife.

See:
http://www.amazon.com/Polish-Heritage-Cookery-Hippocrene-Original/dp/0781805589

Also, check out Sophie Hodorowicz-Knab's books, which give context according to
seasons and traditions.

See:
http://www.amazon.com/Polish-Country-Kitchen-Cookbook/dp/0781808820/ref=sr_1_2?s\
=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315589611&sr=1-2

and

http://www.amazon.com/Polish-Customs-Traditions-Folklore-Hodorowicz/dp/078180515\
5/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315589611&sr=1-1

Andy Golebiowski
Buffalo, N.Y.
U.S.A.



--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Dunleavy <barbaraszczepanski@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I hope the group won't mind my off topic request.  I was recently in Poland
and
> loved some of the dishes. Can anyone recommend a Polish cookery book (in
> English) so that I can try to reproduce some of these delicious dishes.
> I have looked on Amazon but there are quite a few and I would  prefer a book
> that one of you had found to be good and useful.
>
>
> love to you all
>
> Barbara, Nottingham.
>

Dear Members,

Just a quick reminder that on Saturday 17 September 2011 the Kresy-Siberia Group
celebrates its 10th anniversary of researching, remembering and recognising
Polish citizens' struggles in the Eastern Borderlands and in Exile during World
War II.

In UK we are planning to have a celebratory get-together at POSK, Hammersmith,
London between 12.00-4.00 pm in POSK Club on the 4th floor - we have booked our
favourite table in the corner near the window. I will bring my laptop so that we
can connect up to Stefan live in Australia by Skype video and we'll raise a
glass to toast Stefan and the Group and sing "sto lat" !!

We are making arrangements for a journalist from the Dziennik Polski newspaper
to attend and report on and photograph the event. It would be great if members
could make a special effort to wear their new K-S T-shirts (see
http://www.printfection.com/Kresy-Siberia). We will also have some available for
sale on the day.

Never forget that we are a very special group of people and we deserve to
celebrate our success and achievements over the past 10 years and to look
forward to the future. We have some very exciting plans and ideas in the
pipeline and it would be a shame if you missed out on being a part of it.

Looking forward to seeing you all very soon.

Eva Szegidewicz (Eva.Szegidewicz@...)
Director, Kresy-Siberia (UK)
Manchester

Please consider supporting the Kresy-Siberia mission by donating your time,
talent, materials, money or ideas by clicking on
http://ksf.wmks.pl/?page_id=14&lang=en

If Rebecca is the granddaughter of Zenon Burlinski and Maria Unold she will find
a record of her grandfather's family's deportation to Siemiriecznyj labour camp
in Solvichegodsk region of Archangielsk here:

http://lists.memo.ru/d5/f439.htm

but it will require translation from Russian to English.  The Burlinski family
information is toward the bottom of the page.

Maria Unold was evacuated to Ifunda, Tanganyika (present day Tanzania).

http://kresy-siberia.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=6271

Maria came to England aboard the SS Scythia in 1948

http://www.polishresettlementcampsintheuk.co.uk/passengerlist/scythia1948june.ht\
m

Kind regards

Halina (NZ)

Yahoo will never again use the phrase, "Polish Death Camp". Here's the link in
case you missed it:  http://www.poland.us/strona,20,9333,0.html

Regards,
Jenny Skulski
Vancouver, BC

Dear Friends

I have two. One I'm told is an American classic, my mother had a copy which my
father got for her to help her cook Polish meals for him (she was Swedish)called
"Polish Cookery" by Marja Ochorowicz-Monatowa first published in 1958 by Crowne
Publishers Inc and is quite extensive (you can still get it through Amazon for
around $12:00)and a smaller one I bought in Warsaw (in English) called "Polish
cooking" by Danuta Lebkowska and Marek Lebkowski by Tenten Publishing House,
1993.

Louise Blazejowska
Sydney, Australia

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Dunleavy <barbaraszczepanski@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I hope the group won't mind my off topic request.  I was recently in Poland
and
> loved some of the dishes. Can anyone recommend a Polish cookery book (in
> English) so that I can try to reproduce some of these delicious dishes.
> I have looked on Amazon but there are quite a few and I would  prefer a book
> that one of you had found to be good and useful.
>
>
> love to you all
>
> Barbara, Nottingham.
>

Dear All

Below is an extract from the MIgration Heritage website at:
http://www.migrationheritage.nsw.gov.au/

My father was assisted to Australia and while the conditions were obviously not
as dire as Siberia, I understand being put into corrugated iron huts for 2 years
in all sorts of God forsaken places did come as a bit of a rude shock for him
and his PAF friends(and the food was apparently awful): a hydro-electric dam in
Tasmania, the Snowy Mountains Scheme and Woomera Rocket Range, a Defence Force
site in the desert.

`Populate or perish': post war migration

When the war ended, the government took an entirely new approach to migration.
The near invasion of Australia by the Japanese caused a complete rethink of
ideal population numbers. As Prime Minister Ben Chifley would later declare, `a
powerful enemy looked hungrily toward Australia. In tomorrow's gun flash that
threat could come again. We must populate Australia as rapidly as we can before
someone else decides to populate it for us.' i In 1945, the Department of
Immigration was established, headed up by Arthur Calwell. It resolved that
Australia should have annual population growth of two per cent, of which only
half could come from natural increase. 70,000 immigrants a year were needed to
make up the difference.

However, although the government wanted the majority to be Anglo Celtic – and
Arthur Calwell declared `It is my hope that for every foreign migrant there will
be 10 people from the United Kingdom' ii in fact the British Government was both
unable and unwilling to meet such a high target. At the same time, some 11
million people had survived the Nazi labour and concentration camps and many,
particularly Poles, Yugoslavs, Latvians, Ukrainians and Hungarians, were unable
or unwilling to return home. Visiting Europe in 1947, Calwell therefore agreed
to accept a minimum of 12,000 of these refugees a year.

On 28 November 1947, the first Displaced Persons – 844 young Estonians, Latvians
and Lithuanians – arrived on the General Heintzelman in Melbourne and were
transferred to Bonegilla migration hostel. In exchange for free passage and
assistance on their arrival, they agreed to work for the government for two
years.

During the seven years this scheme operated, nearly 171,000 arrived. When this
source came to an end, the Federal Government negotiated a series of migration
agreements including with the Netherlands and Italy (1951), Austria, Belgium,
West Germany, Greece and Spain (1952), and the United States, Switzerland,
Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland (1954). In these immediate post war years
Australia was second only to Israel in the proportion of migrants accepted. As a
result, Australian society became markedly less British and Irish in character.
At the 1961 census, eight per cent of the population was non-British in origin
with the largest group being Italians followed by Germans, Greeks and Poles.

Most migrants arrived by ship, disembarking in major cities such as Sydney and
Melbourne. From there they were immediately taken to migration hostels in rural
areas, often in former military barracks. With accommodation fashioned from old
corrugated iron Nissen huts, migrants were frequently shocked at the primitive
conditions. With men and women separated into single sex barracks, shared
bathrooms and kitchens and a communal dining room serving unfamiliar, and often
unpalatable food, migration hostels were neither comfortable nor welcoming. The
intention was that migrants stay only four to six weeks until they could be
resettled near their workplace. At times however work was difficult to find and
some stayed for months if not years. Improvements were slow in coming. In 1969
family units opened at Villawood and migrants no longer had to share facilities.
Yet, as one Polish immigrant who arrived there in 1975 remarked, `For the first
time in my life I had a room to myself'. Some things had not changed, as to
food, `After one week there we'd had enough'. iii

All assisted migrants aged over 16 had to work. Regardless of qualifications men
were classified as labourers and women as domestics. One of the largest
employers was the Snowy Mountain Scheme. Australia's largest post war project,
this diverted the course of the Snowy and Tumut Rivers to provide irrigation and
generate hydro-electricity. The work was hard, dangerous and meant men lived for
months in isolated and primitive camps. Other migrants found work in factories,
in the burgeoning iron and steel industries, on the railways and in mines.

Although the official government policy was that migrants should assimilate into
Australia's Anglo Celtic culture, many celebrated their origins through
membership of clubs, sporting and religious organisations. For some such
community organisations made a huge difference in overcoming a sense of
isolation. For others it came when they had their own homes and families and
could grow familiar fruits and vegetables and eat traditional foods.

Louise Blazejowska
Sydney, Australia

Anglo-Celtic! First time I ever heard that coupling!

In the United States, up until the First World War, job advertisements
were generally noted: "No Irish need apply."

Of course Australia already had a significant Irish population. They got
there without any transportation cost whatever, aboard HMS prison ships.
(In a nice echo of the Poles deported to Kazakhstan in April 1940 as
"free exiles", convicts were sometimes allowed to take their families
with them as "free settlers.")

Blue skies! -- Dan Ford


On 9/10/2011 3:40 AM, l.blazejowska wrote:
> he government wanted the majority to be Anglo Celtic – and Arthur
> Calwell declared `It is my hope that for every foreign migrant there
> will be 10 people from the United Kingdom'

Burlinski/a family from Ugrinow, Sienkiewicze, Wolyn consisted of Ann daughter
of Jozefa born 1905;
Zenon son Ignatego born 1928;
Ignaty son Antoniego born 1889 at Sierock in Germany;
Lenont son Ignatego born 1933 and Tadeusz son Ignatego born 1926.
All were deported to posiolek  no 121 called Siemiriecznyj, near Litwino just
east of Kotlas in Archangelskaja oblast. Arrived there on 22nd February 1940 and
were amnestied on 10th September 1941.
antoni530



--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "halinamcd" <redcube@...> wrote:
>
> If Rebecca is the granddaughter of Zenon Burlinski and Maria Unold she will
find a record of her grandfather's family's deportation to Siemiriecznyj labour
camp in Solvichegodsk region of Archangielsk here:
>
> http://lists.memo.ru/d5/f439.htm
>
> but it will require translation from Russian to English.  The Burlinski family
information is toward the bottom of the page.
>
> Maria Unold was evacuated to Ifunda, Tanganyika (present day Tanzania).
>
> http://kresy-siberia.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=6271
>
> Maria came to England aboard the SS Scythia in 1948
>
>
http://www.polishresettlementcampsintheuk.co.uk/passengerlist/scythia1948june.ht\
m
>
> Kind regards
>
> Halina (NZ)
>

One big difference, Australia got better, Kazakhstan did not. Polish
immigrants amongst the others, taught Australians how to cook tasty meals
and eat different foods,  because of this we can now enjoy in restaurants
and homes, almost every food from around the world. Also because of the good
food and climate, our Polish blooded, Aussie kids have outgrown their
parents in height and education. But because of the excessive good food, our
older Polish have become diabetics, too much of a good thing, too quick.

Cheers
Lenarda, Australia



-----Original Message-----
From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Ford
Sent: Saturday, 10 September, 2011 10:10 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Refugee travel costs to Australia or Canada
[was Strony O Wolyn]

Anglo-Celtic! First time I ever heard that coupling!

In the United States, up until the First World War, job advertisements
were generally noted: "No Irish need apply."

Of course Australia already had a significant Irish population. They got
there without any transportation cost whatever, aboard HMS prison ships.
(In a nice echo of the Poles deported to Kazakhstan in April 1940 as
"free exiles", convicts were sometimes allowed to take their families
with them as "free settlers.")

Blue skies! -- Dan Ford


On 9/10/2011 3:40 AM, l.blazejowska wrote:
> he government wanted the majority to be Anglo Celtic – and Arthur
> Calwell declared `It is my hope that for every foreign migrant there
> will be 10 people from the United Kingdom'


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