http://www.wbj.pl/article-52668-polish-govt-to-pay-zl360-million-for-world-war-i\
i-museum.html?typ=ise





Polish gov't to pay z�.360 million for World War II museum

5th January 2011





The government announced on Tuesday that it would set aside almost z�.360
million from the budget to pay for the new World War II Museum in Gda�sk.

The future museum's director, professor Pawe� Machcewicz told PAP that he
estimated the cost of the construction work alone would come to z�.30 million.

"Our neighbors devote huge resources to promoting their vision of 20th century
history," said Mr Machcewicz.

"Poland also has to take part in the European discussion of 20th century
history, including World War II. This is a duty for a large European country,
and narrative museums play a key role in such discussions. The Holocaust museum
in Washington is such an example. It is difficult to talk about the Holocaust
without reference to it."

The museum is due to open in 2014 to mark the 75th anniversary of the beginning
of World War II.






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--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "lubniewski3" <cobolt4001@...> wrote:
> does anbody have any info  of deportations from wilejka station
> during 1939

Only because you ask for ANY information I reluctantly suggest
the following
http://www.zsylka.webpark.pl/obozy/zsylka-1941.html This is in a sort of Polish,
probably Google-translated from the original:
http://www.memo.ru/HISTORY/POLAcy/g_2.htm

Also
http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/soviet_atrocities/soviet_atrocities_2.\
2_pol.html
For source documents see reference 68 in
http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/soviet_atrocities/soviet_atrocities_bi\
blio-notes_pol.html

Also http://www.akwilno.pl/pdf/Ekspatriacja.pdf

All these documents talk  about 1941 deportations. Are you sure there were any
in 1939?

hi thanks for the info  yes i checked my records of my family and it  was
April 13 1940 when they were deported


In a message dated 06/01/2011 20:28:09 GMT Standard Time, kresy@...
writes:




--- In _Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com) ,  "lubniewski3" <cobolt4001@...> wrote:
> does anbody have any info  of deportations from wilejka station
> during 1939

Only because  you ask for ANY information I reluctantly suggest
the following
_http://www.zsylka.webpark.pl/obozy/zsylka-1941.html_
(http://www.zsylka.webpark.pl/obozy/zsylka-1941.html)   This is in a sort of
Polish, probably
Google-translated from the  original:
_http://www.memo.ru/HISTORY/POLAcy/g_2.htm_
(http://www.memo.ru/HISTORY/POLAcy/g_2.htm)

Also
_http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/soviet_atrocities/soviet_atrocities_2\
.2_pol.html_
(http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/soviet_atrocities/soviet_atrocities_2\
.2_pol.html)
For source documents see reference 68 in
_http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/soviet_atrocities/soviet_atrocities_b\
iblio-notes_pol.html_
(http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/soviet_atrocities/soviet_atrocities_b\
iblio
-notes_pol.html)

Also  _http://www.akwilno.pl/pdf/Ekspatriacja.pdf_
(http://www.akwilno.pl/pdf/Ekspatriacja.pdf)

All  these documents talk about 1941 deportations. Are you sure there were
any in  1939?





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Theres a detailed WWII map of Wilejka on sale right now on eBay if your
interested. A few others too.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/map-Poland-30-41-Nowa-Wilejka-WIG-Edynburg-/190485668302?p\
t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c59d4a1ce

Janusz
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: lubniewski3
   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:38 PM
   Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] wilejka station 1939



   hi does anbody have any info of deportations from wilejka station
   during 1939 to siberia or info of deportations from a village called malmygi
many thanks steffan lubniewski





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Click on the link to sign.
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/ffppob

Freedom for Political Prisoners of Belarus
Opened on January 01, 2011 | Contact Petition Author

The Belarusian Presidential elections took place on the 19th December. This day
will be recorded in history as ‘Bloody Sunday’.  The election results were
falsified by the corrupt Lukashenka dictatorship to ensure he remained in power.
The majority of the country voted for a radical change to a Democratic
Government.  They want to be rid of corruption, they want freedom of speech,
membership of the European Union etc..

Feelings ran so strongly, that about 50,000  people gathered in freezing
conditions to make a ‘peaceful’ protest  in  Independence  Square Minsk.

The government was well prepared.   THEY ‘staged’ the storming of the
Presidential Building.  THEY smashed the glass doors down. THEIR  riot squad
militia then poured into the square brutally beating demonstrators with their
batons and shields.  More than 700 were arrested and taken to the KGB detention
centre and prison, independent media offices were ransacked. Arrests and
searches are still continuing relentlessly.

The leaders of the opposition, members of their HQs, journalists were especially
targeted, several were savagely beaten sustaining serious and life threatening
multiple injuries before being taken to KGB prison were they were left locked up
in freezing cold cells with no medical treatment.  It is believed that they may
subsequently have been pressurised to give false statements of admission to the
charge  of’ causing a riot ‘ for which the penalty is expected to be 5 to 15
years imprisonment.

These kinds of things can only happen in Belarus due to the strangling grip of
the government of one man: Alexander Lukashenka. The current atmosphere in
Belarus is one of Stalin’s times where any opposition to the dictator is
stamped out. This petition is setup by the group "Vyzvalenne", a community of
the families and well wishers to the people imprisoned in Belarus
http://www.facebook.com/update_security_info.php?wizard=1#!/home.php?sk=group_14\
9180621798658&ap=1

This primary function of this petition is to rally support for the Brave
opposition candidates that  literally risked their lives to bring freedom to the
Belarusian people and are facing up to 15 years in prison for their efforts. It
will be sent to the governmental offices of Russia and Belarus along with any
humanitarian organisation that are willing to listen.

  DO NOT LET THIS GO UNNOTICED!

  PLEASE SIGN!!!



Президентские выборы в Беларуси в 2010 войдут
в историю как  «Кровавое Воскресенье».
Результаты выборов были фальсифицированы
коррумпированным режимом Лукашенко.

Большинство избирателей голосовало за
демократических кандидатов, за перемены, за
свободу слова, права человека – против
диктатуры.

Люди вышли на мирную демонстрацию, чтобы
массовостью поддтвердить свой выбор.

Войска спецназа и милиция диктатуры
разогнала демонстрантов жестоко применяя
силу по отношению к беззащитным людям.



Около 700 человек были арестованы, сотни
избиты. Офисы независимых СМИ разгромлены.
Аресты и обыски продолжаются.



Кандидаты в президенты преследовались
индивидуально. Совершенно ясно, что был
приказ их изолировать, а в отношении
Некляева и Санникова применить насилие
возможно на уничтожение.



Кадидаты, их доверенные лица, журналисты
находятся в застенках КГБ и могут получить
от 5 до 15 лет.



Это стало возможным в Беларуси только при
диктатуре Лукашенко.

Это очень напоминает сталинские времена,
когда любое инакомыслие искоренялось.

  Наша группа работает в тесном контакте с
Комитетом родственников арестованных
"Вызваленне"   
http://www.facebook.com/update_security_info.php?wizard=1#!/home.php?sk=group_14\
9180621798658&ap=1

Целью этой гуппы является организация
поддержки политическим заключенным,
которые рискуя своей жизнью и здоровьем
борются за Свободу Беларуси.

Это требование освободить ВСЕХ
политических заключенных будет послано
правительству Беларуси и России, в ООН и
Европейский Парламент, в НГО

НЕ ОСТАВАЙТЕСЬ РАВНОДУШНЫМИ!

ПОДПИШИТЕ!!!


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBiSVyNdsDg&feature=player_embedded





   "An activist if “For Freedom” movement and a former member of the election
commission #4 of Leninski district of Minsk Yury Shpak-Ryzhkou and his wife
Tatsyana Hrechanikava were on Independence Square on December 19. Yury was
making photos and capturing on video the events by his amateur camera. Before
the dispersal he created a 5-minute video. Special task forces drew a cordon
around people, banging truncheons on the shields. Commanding officers cry in
gruff voice: “Stay put, stay put!” Demonstrators are shouting in response to
the noise: “We do not fear! We do not fear!” Paddy wagons appear behind the
line of the policemen: “Well! They have come for us,” someone said. There
was no fear in its voice. There is an impression that people do not believe
there will be a crackdown. But first cries are heard: “What are you doing?!
Fascists!” One can hear fragments of orders to arrest people.

   This video, as well as photos made in one of the paddy wagons, have been
preserved luckily. Yury and his wife were detained separately. He spent a day
and night in the paddy wagon waiting for a trial. Before the trial which
punished him by 10 days of arrest he met his wife in Akrestsin Street detention
centre, and managed to pass the camera to her. Tatsyana served 15-day arrest in
the detention centre in Skaryna Street. The camera was placed with her personal
things, and nothing was deleted from it. “Girls from my camera somehow
smuggled a mobile phone into the cell. They made pictures of the everyday life
in prison. And guards found out that fact. They invited them for conversation
and deleted all pictures,” Tatsyana Hrechanikava told. She was beaten during
detention. A special task force policeman seized her scarf with “Pahonya”
coat-of-arms. Like Yury, she was charged with participation in an unsanctioned
rally, shouting slogans: “Long live Belarus!”, “Resign!” and
disobedience to police"


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Does anyone have a contact address or email for Pani Zofia Klusek-Daniszewska of
Wroclaw, Poland?

Zofia Klusek-Daniszewska compiled a list of children and adults living in
Rongai, Kenya from 1945 � 1948.
She was transported from Teheran via Karachi and Mombasa to Masindi in Uganda
and, in 1945, to Rongai Kenya.
In 1947 she returned to Poland from Africa and settled in Wroclaw.  She was
instrumental in setting up "Klub pod Baobabem" for those who had been evacuated
to Africa during WWII.

I am trying to find information on one of the Rongai orphans � Antonina Szulc
(born 15 October 1929) daughter of Marian and Emilia Szulc of Chotyn osada,
Wolyn.  Antonina is included in the list compiled by Pani Klusek-Daniszewska.

Halina (NZ)

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "halinamcd" <redcube@...> wrote:
> Does anyone have a contact address or email for Pani Zofia
> Klusek-Daniszewska of Wroclaw, Poland?
I'll try to find it through my contacts in Związek Sybiraków in Wrocław.

Thanks Janusz

Halina (NZ)

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "janusz_ks" <kresy@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "halinamcd" <redcube@> wrote:
> > Does anyone have a contact address or email for Pani Zofia
> > Klusek-Daniszewska of Wroclaw, Poland?
> I'll try to find it through my contacts in Związek Sybiraków in Wrocław.
>

does anyone know anyone who still alive who was at Rongai?

I have a list here http://www.ska.pl/biorytm/rongai.htm

A Kenyan film producer who did this project about a chairty intiative in the
Kibera slums is looking into trying to interview people who remember the Polish
presence. You can see one video he did here http://vimeo.com/14923194

he is going to be approaching the Polish embassy in Nairobi but I suppose this
list may be a better place to start

please drop me a message, or write something on the Wojtek group on Facebook
http://tiny.cc/Wojtek


Greetings from Cracow/pozdrowienia z Krakowa

Richard Lucas

Witam,
Mrs. Zofia Daniszewska
        Ul. Jelenia  54/1
        54-224 Wroclaw Poland
        Tel: 011-48-71- 355-5292
Zosia she is secretary of the " Klub Pod Baobabem "
Happy New Year
Cas




________________________________
From: halinamcd <redcube@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 4:29:14 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Zofia Klusek-Daniszewska

 
Does anyone have a contact address or email for Pani Zofia Klusek-Daniszewska of
Wroclaw, Poland?

Zofia Klusek-Daniszewska compiled a list of children and adults living in
Rongai, Kenya from 1945 – 1948.
She was transported from Teheran via Karachi and Mombasa to Masindi in Uganda
and, in 1945, to Rongai Kenya.
In 1947 she returned to Poland from Africa and settled in Wroclaw. She was
instrumental in setting up "Klub pod Baobabem" for those who had been evacuated
to Africa during WWII.

I am trying to find information on one of the Rongai orphans – Antonina Szulc
(born 15 October 1929) daughter of Marian and Emilia Szulc of Chotyn osada,
Wolyn. Antonina is included in the list compiled by Pani Klusek-Daniszewska.

Halina (NZ)







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Hi,
My aunt Jozefa Kasznia was at Rongai. She now lives in Derby, England.
Jadzia (UK)

From: Cracow Krakow based
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:22 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Rongai, Kenya contacts, survivors/alumni


does anyone know anyone who still alive who was at Rongai?

I have a list here http://www.ska.pl/biorytm/rongai.htm

A Kenyan film producer who did this project about a chairty intiative in the
Kibera slums is looking into trying to interview people who remember the Polish
presence. You can see one video he did here http://vimeo.com/14923194

he is going to be approaching the Polish embassy in Nairobi but I suppose this
list may be a better place to start

please drop me a message, or write something on the Wojtek group on Facebook
http://tiny.cc/Wojtek

Greetings from Cracow/pozdrowienia z Krakowa

Richard Lucas





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No, but I do have from 1941, and I have photos taken 4 years ago. Any good?

Basia (UK)
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: lubniewski3
   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:38 PM
   Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] wilejka station 1939



   hi does anbody have any info of deportations from wilejka station
   during 1939 to siberia or info of deportations from a village called malmygi
many thanks steffan lubniewski





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Jadzia, Linder here, the loony in a w/chair?, need you to help us, please email
to me @ 'ladbrooke@...' thanks Linder
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Jadzia Butcher
   Sent: 07 January 2011 14:33
   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Rongai, Kenya contacts, survivors/alumni



   Hi,
   My aunt Jozefa Kasznia was at Rongai. She now lives in Derby, England.
   Jadzia (UK)

   From: Cracow Krakow based
   Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:22 PM
   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Rongai, Kenya contacts, survivors/alumni

   does anyone know anyone who still alive who was at Rongai?

   I have a list here http://www.ska.pl/biorytm/rongai.htm

   A Kenyan film producer who did this project about a chairty intiative in the
Kibera slums is looking into trying to interview people who remember the Polish
presence. You can see one video he did here http://vimeo.com/14923194

   he is going to be approaching the Polish embassy in Nairobi but I suppose this
list may be a better place to start

   please drop me a message, or write something on the Wojtek group on Facebook
http://tiny.cc/Wojtek

   Greetings from Cracow/pozdrowienia z Krakowa

   Richard Lucas

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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Thank you very much Cas

Happy New Year to you too

Halina (NZ)

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Casimir Majewski <kmaj31@...> wrote:
>
> Witam,
> Mrs. Zofia Daniszewska
>         Ul. Jelenia  54/1
>         54-224 Wroclaw Poland
>         Tel: 011-48-71- 355-5292
> Zosia she is secretary of the " Klub Pod Baobabem "
> Happy New Year
> Cas
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: halinamcd <redcube@...>
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 4:29:14 AM
> Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Zofia Klusek-Daniszewska
>
>  
> Does anyone have a contact address or email for Pani Zofia Klusek-Daniszewska
of
> Wroclaw, Poland?
>
> Zofia Klusek-Daniszewska compiled a list of children and adults living in
> Rongai, Kenya from 1945 �" 1948.
> She was transported from Teheran via Karachi and Mombasa to Masindi in Uganda
> and, in 1945, to Rongai Kenya.
> In 1947 she returned to Poland from Africa and settled in Wroclaw. She was
> instrumental in setting up "Klub pod Baobabem" for those who had been
evacuated
> to Africa during WWII.
>
> I am trying to find information on one of the Rongai orphans �" Antonina
Szulc
> (born 15 October 1929) daughter of Marian and Emilia Szulc of Chotyn osada,
> Wolyn. Antonina is included in the list compiled by Pani Klusek-Daniszewska.
>
> Halina (NZ)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hello

Both of my aunts, Ewa and Lucja Sobierajska, were there and are on the list. 
Ewa is deceased and Lucja lives in Southsea, UK.

Roger
(NZ)


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Cracow Krakow based
   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:22 AM
   Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Rongai, Kenya contacts, survivors/alumni



   does anyone know anyone who still alive who was at Rongai?

   I have a list here http://www.ska.pl/biorytm/rongai.htm

   A Kenyan film producer who did this project about a chairty intiative in the
Kibera slums is looking into trying to interview people who remember the Polish
presence. You can see one video he did here http://vimeo.com/14923194

   he is going to be approaching the Polish embassy in Nairobi but I suppose this
list may be a better place to start

   please drop me a message, or write something on the Wojtek group on Facebook
http://tiny.cc/Wojtek

   Greetings from Cracow/pozdrowienia z Krakowa

   Richard Lucas





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yes that would be a great help thanks steff


In a message dated 07/01/2011 19:03:59 GMT Standard Time,
bwbm5@... writes:




No, but I do have from 1941, and I have photos taken 4 years ago. Any  good?

Basia (UK)
----- Original Message -----
From: lubniewski3
To: _Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com)

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:38 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia]  wilejka station 1939

hi does anbody have any info of deportations from  wilejka station
during 1939 to siberia or info of deportations from a  village called
malmygi many thanks steffan lubniewski

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thanks  for the info


In a message dated 06/01/2011 23:10:27 GMT Standard Time,
janz@... writes:




Theres a detailed WWII map of Wilejka on sale right now on eBay if your
interested. A few others too.

_http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/map-Poland-30-41-Nowa-Wilejka-WIG-Edynburg-/190485668
302?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c59d4a1ce_
(http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/map-Poland-30-41-Nowa-Wilejka-WIG-Edynburg-/190485668302?\
pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&has
h=item2c59d4a1ce)

Janusz
-----  Original Message -----
From: lubniewski3
To: _Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com)

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:38 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia]  wilejka station 1939

hi does anbody have any info of deportations from  wilejka station
during 1939 to siberia or info of deportations from a  village called
malmygi many thanks steffan lubniewski

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Part of my family were deported to Barnaul in Altajski Kraj in mid June 1941.
They had lived in Nowa Wilejka but had moved to Wilno when my grandfather was
arrested and held in Lukiszko prison. When they were told he would be shot the
next day they went to my greatgrandparents. They were arrested and put on a
train in Olita (Alytus). The train went on side rails through Wilno at dead of
night and on to Wilejka station. The station is not large, but it is a big
junction. There the train stood for 2-3 daysin sidings. The carriages were
opened and healthy young men were removed and packed into a waiting train (also
made up of cattle wagons). My Mum says the agony of the split families was
heartbreaking. ( You can imagine the weeping, the screaming, the hugging, the
knowledge that they would probably never see one another again). The people of
Nowa Wilejka gave bread and Polish books by throwing them into the wagons
through the bars.  They stood largely mute with horror as they saw their
friends, neighbours and family straining through the bars. The journey took
around 3 weeks and they were given salt herrings to eat but no water except at
brief stops when the doors were opened and guarded by armed guards. The dead
were taken out and thrown to the side. Families tried to hide their dead by
telling the guards that the deceased was asleep. People were allowed to get out
to relieve themselves but that was a dangerous thing to do as the trains would
move off without much warning so the more discreet were left behind - again to
the agony of their family.
There is now an engine with the soviet star and one or two cattle cars attached
by the school my Mum went to in Nowa Wilejka. The rail tracks were, to mother's
memory much as they had been. She stood a long time by them. A notice by the
short train says it is in memory of the 250,000 people deported from the area at
that time.

I will try and find some photos from Wilejka and will scan and send them but
please be patient as much is in packing cases as I moved in summer 2010. I also
have some film footage.

Do you have any specific questions? It might be easier to address specific
points. My Mum's memory is very sharp of those times.

I have bid for the map of Wilejka and if I am successful I will send you a scan
- or copy if that is OK. I have drawn a line showing their route from Nowa
Wilejka on every atlas in the house, with notes, so that my sons and their kids
know. Would you like a scan or do you know the route?

Is this what you wanted?

all the best,

Basia (UK)




   ----- Original Message -----
   From: cobolt4001@...
   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:28 PM
   Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] wilejka station 1939



   yes that would be a great help thanks steff


   In a message dated 07/01/2011 19:03:59 GMT Standard Time,
   bwbm5@... writes:

   No, but I do have from 1941, and I have photos taken 4 years ago. Any good?

   Basia (UK)
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: lubniewski3
   To: _Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com)

   Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:38 PM
   Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] wilejka station 1939

   hi does anbody have any info of deportations from wilejka station
   during 1939 to siberia or info of deportations from a village called
   malmygi many thanks steffan lubniewski

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Stephan.

I hope you�re well. There�s been a tremendous response to our film, The Way
back. Number 4 in UK box office -  number 2 in Spain... Here is another
great review that you might want to put on the Kresy website. Also
Malgorzata Pospiech saw the film at the gala event at the Lincoln Center in
NY. She was moved to tears as was her companions. You might want to contact
her for her review for Kresy. Hope you�re well... Also you should consider
hooking your website to the movie�s website... Thanks Keith


--
Joni Levin & Keith Clarke
Point Blank Productions
29344 Bluewater rd.
Malibu,Ca.  90265
office:  310-457-7905
mobile:  310-804-2353






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--Joni Levin � Keith Clarke
   Point Blank Prods, Inc.
   29344 Bluewater Rd.
   Malibu, Ca.  90265
   office:  310-457-7905
   mobile:  310-804-2353
   e-mail:  pointblank.prods@...

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Keith
Congratulations on your film and the wonderful response.  Will it be coming to
Australia?

Frances

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Joni Levin & Keith Clarke
<pointblank.prods@...> wrote:
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> Stephan.
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> I hope you�re well. There�s been a tremendous response to our film, The Way
> back. Number 4 in UK box office -  number 2 in Spain... Here is another
> great review that you might want to put on the Kresy website. Also
> Malgorzata Pospiech saw the film at the gala event at the Lincoln Center in
> NY. She was moved to tears as was her companions. You might want to contact
> her for her review for Kresy. Hope you�re well... Also you should consider
> hooking your website to the movie�s website... Thanks Keith
>
>
> --
> Joni Levin & Keith Clarke
> Point Blank Productions
> 29344 Bluewater rd.
> Malibu,Ca.  90265
> office:  310-457-7905
> mobile:  310-804-2353
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>   Point Blank Prods, Inc.
>   29344 Bluewater Rd.
>   Malibu, Ca.  90265
>   office:  310-457-7905
>   mobile:  310-804-2353
>   e-mail:  pointblank.prods@...
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Hello All,

I was looking up and for members of my family and found that several sites
quoted from records held by, I think, the church of latterday saints in Utah.
They were totally incorrect as to parentage, dates of marriages, offspring - I
could go on. Initially I tried to correct them but it seems that can only be
done from within the USA.  My suggestion is that you are very wary of what is
given there. Two examples: I was given the wrong father; a great-uncle was
listed as an only child whose parents married the year before he was born when
in fact he was one of eight children and well down the line.

Do please be wary and don't assume the information you are given is necessarily
correct.

All the best,
                        Basia (UK)

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Hi Linder,

Your link didn’t work for me – my email was returned. However, I have you in
my address book, so I sent you an email last night using that. The reason I’m
sending this through the group (sorry group) is because I can’t be sure you
received the second email. let me know if you didn’t.

Regards
Jadzia

From: Linder Ladbrooke
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 7:55 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] From Linder - k-s uk


Jadzia, Linder here, the loony in a w/chair?, need you to help us, please email
to me @ mailto:%27ladbrooke%40ntlworld.com' thanks Linder
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To: stefan@...; Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com; Mbejc@...;
antonyireland@...
From: pointblank.prods@...
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:56:48 -0800
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Keith :






Stephan.

I hope you�re well. There�s been a tremendous response to our film, The Way
back. Number 4 in UK box office - number 2 in Spain... Here is another
great review that you might want to put on the Kresy website. Also
Malgorzata Pospiech saw the film at the gala event at the Lincoln Center in
NY. She was moved to tears as was her companions. You might want to contact
her for her review for Kresy. Hope you�re well... Also you should consider
hooking your website to the movie�s website... Thanks Keith

--
Joni Levin & Keith Clarke
Point Blank Productions
29344 Bluewater rd.
Malibu,Ca. 90265
office: 310-457-7905
mobile: 310-804-2353

VARIETY � January 7, 2011 � �Writers on Writers: The Way Back� by David
Thomson � Column on Keith R. Clarke and Peter Weir, mentions film

VARIETY � January 7, 2011 � �Writers on Writers: The Way Back� by David
Thomson � Column on Keith R. Clarke and Peter Weir, mentions film

--Joni Levin � Keith Clarke
Point Blank Prods, Inc.
29344 Bluewater Rd.
Malibu, Ca. 90265
office: 310-457-7905
mobile: 310-804-2353
e-mail: pointblank.prods@...

VARIETY � January 7, 2011 � �Writers on Writers: The Way Back� by David
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Greetings from Cracow

Thanks Roger and Jadzia

Apart from Rongai there were also camps at Manira, Makindu, Nairobi, and Nyali.
Does anyone know of lists of people in these camps
or of people who were there

I came across this article about the cemetary in Tengeru

http://development.thinkaboutit.eu/think3/post/cemetery_of_polish_refugees_in_af\
rica/

Is has some moving photos and is well worth reading

kind regards

Richard

There was also a transit camp in Mombassa. My grandmother and young uncle sailed
from there to the UK in 1948.

Basia (UK)
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Cracow Krakow based
   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:29 PM
   Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Rongai, Kenya contacts, survivors/alumni



   Greetings from Cracow

   Thanks Roger and Jadzia

   Apart from Rongai there were also camps at Manira, Makindu, Nairobi, and
Nyali. Does anyone know of lists of people in these camps
   or of people who were there

   I came across this article about the cemetary in Tengeru

  
http://development.thinkaboutit.eu/think3/post/cemetery_of_polish_refugees_in_af\
rica/

   Is has some moving photos and is well worth reading

   kind regards

   Richard





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Can anyone guide me to sources giving dates that countries recognized the
annexation of the Polish Kresy by the Soviet Union?

Partial timeline:
March 18, 1921 - Treaty of Riga sets Soviet-Polish borders.
Aug. 23, 1939 - Soviets and Germans sign non-aggression pact with secret
protocol about partition of Poland.
Sept. 17, 1939 - USSR invades Poland.
Sept. 28, 1939 - USSR and Germany adjust partition boundaries.
June 22, 1941 - German military attacks Soviet occupation forces in Eastern
Poland.
Jan. 4, 1944 - Red Army chases German forces back over the 1921 frontier between
Poland and the Soviet Union.
Feb. 11, 1945 - At Yalta, Roosevelt and Churchill say they will accept
essentially the 1939 Hitler-Stalin partition line as the new Soviet-Polish
border.
April 21, 1945 - Polish-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Mutual Aid and Co-operation
signed by puppet Provisional Government of the Polish Republic installed by
Stalin, recognizing the Hitler-Stalin line as the eastern border as decided by
Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill at Yalta.
July 5, 1945 - Western Allies end recognition of the Polish government in London
and establish diplomatic recognition of the Soviet-sponsored Provisional
Government of National Unity.

It appears that the Soviet annexation was recognized in 1939 by the USSR, Nazi
Germany and some or all of their allied nations.
France does not seem to have recognized the annexation at this time, at least
not until it capitulated in 1940 and became a collaborator of Germany under the
Vichy regime.
Since there were discussions about the frontier involving the US and UK until
1944 and 1945, it looks as though they did not recognize it until they
recognized the Stalin puppet regime July 5, 1945.
The legitimate Polish government, in exile in Paris and then London, never
recognized the Stalin-Hitler partition line as the new border - and that was
undoubtedly a major reason that the US and UK stopped recognizing its
legitimacy July 5, 1945.

But I am looking for actual sources/references showing when the annexation was
recognized internationally. My own small library is too limited, and the
Internet is a disaster - virtually all writers seem to uncritically accept the
Hitler-Soviet line as of 1939. At least, most say that Hitler "invaded the
Soviet Union" on June 22, 1941 although virtually none refer to the western
portion of Poland annexed by Hitler in 1939 as Germany. In fact, they often seem
to "forget" about German annexation/occupation altogether and refer to Nazi
death camps as "Polish" or "in Poland".

John Halucha
Sault Ste Marie, Canada




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Hi John,



Just getting into Timothy Snyder’s Bloodlands and just finished the chapter
dealing with the Aug 23 talks. He gives Haslam’s Collective Security, 227 and
Lukacs’ Last European War, 58-59.



What I’m finding interesting is that on the German side, Polish soldiers were
not recognised – and therefore did not come under military conventions, and by
Sept 17, the Soviets claimed their intervention was necessary because the Polish
State had ceased to exist, the country could no longer protect its own citizens
and the Red Army had to enter the country on a peace keeping mission. Trying to
come to terms with the twisted logic of Hitler and Stalin, is something I keep
shaking my head over.



I will keep an eye out for other sources and countries regarding the rest of the
dates - Snyder’s notes are extensive. What he has reiterated is what we
already know - that although Britain and France declared war on Germany, neither
took meaningful action to help Poland.



Cheers - Barbara



From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Halucha
Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 7:54 a.m.
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Soviet annexation of Kresy





Can anyone guide me to sources giving dates that countries recognized the
annexation of the Polish Kresy by the Soviet Union?

Partial timeline:
March 18, 1921 - Treaty of Riga sets Soviet-Polish borders.
Aug. 23, 1939 - Soviets and Germans sign non-aggression pact with secret
protocol about partition of Poland.
Sept. 17, 1939 - USSR invades Poland.
Sept. 28, 1939 - USSR and Germany adjust partition boundaries.
June 22, 1941 - German military attacks Soviet occupation forces in Eastern
Poland.
Jan. 4, 1944 - Red Army chases German forces back over the 1921 frontier between
Poland and the Soviet Union.
Feb. 11, 1945 - At Yalta, Roosevelt and Churchill say they will accept
essentially the 1939 Hitler-Stalin partition line as the new Soviet-Polish
border.
April 21, 1945 - Polish-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Mutual Aid and Co-operation
signed by puppet Provisional Government of the Polish Republic installed by
Stalin, recognizing the Hitler-Stalin line as the eastern border as decided by
Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill at Yalta.
July 5, 1945 - Western Allies end recognition of the Polish government in London
and establish diplomatic recognition of the Soviet-sponsored Provisional
Government of National Unity.

It appears that the Soviet annexation was recognized in 1939 by the USSR, Nazi
Germany and some or all of their allied nations.
France does not seem to have recognized the annexation at this time, at least
not until it capitulated in 1940 and became a collaborator of Germany under the
Vichy regime.
Since there were discussions about the frontier involving the US and UK until
1944 and 1945, it looks as though they did not recognize it until they
recognized the Stalin puppet regime July 5, 1945.
The legitimate Polish government, in exile in Paris and then London, never
recognized the Stalin-Hitler partition line as the new border - and that was
undoubtedly a major reason that the US and UK stopped recognizing its
legitimacy July 5, 1945.

But I am looking for actual sources/references showing when the annexation was
recognized internationally. My own small library is too limited, and the
Internet is a disaster - virtually all writers seem to uncritically accept the
Hitler-Soviet line as of 1939. At least, most say that Hitler "invaded the
Soviet Union" on June 22, 1941 although virtually none refer to the western
portion of Poland annexed by Hitler in 1939 as Germany. In fact, they often seem
to "forget" about German annexation/occupation altogether and refer to Nazi
death camps as "Polish" or "in Poland".

John Halucha
Sault Ste Marie, Canada

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Hello everyone,

I have joined the group recently because my mother who is 87 and in poor health,
has, over the last few months, finally given me details of what she and her
family went through at the hands of the Russians in 1940. We live in Rochdale ,
Lancashire , England.


My mum,  Maria Czerenkiewicz was taken from her home in  Krzywoszyn (now in
Belarus) on 10th Feb. 1940 together with her father Jan and mother Antonina and
cousin Tekla Malewicz and after 2 weeks being held in Baranovich was transported
with many others to Kubalo labour camp in the Archangelsh Oblast. After many
months of hard labour in the forest in sub zero temperatures her father fell ill
and died. My mum and her mother and cousin survived the conditions until the so
called "amnesty". They made their way, with the help of my future father (Jan
Grycuk) and his family to Uzbekistan to try and escape the Soviet repression. My
father joined the Polish Army in Kermine, whilst my mother and her family
endured the dreadful conditions in a village near the the Uzbek town of
Kysyltepa, about 30 kilometres from Kermine. Here my mother lost both her mother
and cousin. Both died in the local hospital. My mother went to the hospital to
see how they were, but was just told that they had died and given no more
information !

Shortly after this my mum was taken by ship across the Caspian sea to Pahlevi in
Persia and then to Teheran. Very soon after arriving there she was transported
via Karachi to East Africa to a camp in Masindi. She was to live there for 6
years until she joined up with my father in the U.K.


They made a life together in Rochdale near Manchester.


If anyone can give my any idea how I can find out were my mothers mum and cousin
were finally laid to rest after dying in the Hospital in Kysyltepa, I would
appreciate it. I have tried sending an e-mail to the Polish Embassy in
Uzbekistan, but have had no reply. It would be of great comfort to my Mum if I
could get this information. She is not very well and time is precious.

Thank you.

Tadeusz Jan Grycuk




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Helo Tadeusz;
Welcome to the group. I read your Email and description what your family went
through. I know because I was there and I know how it was - there were three
epidemics: typhus, malaria and dysentery and people were dying like flies. How
many people died and where they were burried we  probably will never know. They
were just burried in mass graves sometimes without coffins. I myself went
through typhus and the fact that I survived I probably owe to the fact that my
dad , a doctor, took with him, when we were being deported, a big box of all
kinds of samples of medicines from different countries  that were sent to him as
samples.  So, I was probably the best treated person in the the Soviet Russia.
Sure there were hospitals in Russia but the sick were sent there just to die.
The situation that I am writing about was  in the south of Russia when we came
there from the north in search of the Polish Army, sometimes in spring of 1942.
Taking in consideration the above, I understand that it will be difficult to
find out what happened to your relatives. But keep trying - maybe....
Regards
Romuald
---- Tadeusz Grycuk <tgrycuk@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have joined the group recently because my mother who is 87 and in poor
health,
> has, over the last few months, finally given me details of what she and her
> family went through at the hands of the Russians in 1940. We live in Rochdale
,
> Lancashire , England.
>
>
> My mum,  Maria Czerenkiewicz was taken from her home in  Krzywoszyn (now in
> Belarus) on 10th Feb. 1940 together with her father Jan and mother Antonina
and
> cousin Tekla Malewicz and after 2 weeks being held in Baranovich was
transported
> with many others to Kubalo labour camp in the Archangelsh Oblast. After many
> months of hard labour in the forest in sub zero temperatures her father fell
ill
> and died. My mum and her mother and cousin survived the conditions until the
so
> called "amnesty". They made their way, with the help of my future father (Jan
> Grycuk) and his family to Uzbekistan to try and escape the Soviet repression.
My
> father joined the Polish Army in Kermine, whilst my mother and her family
> endured the dreadful conditions in a village near the the Uzbek town of
> Kysyltepa, about 30 kilometres from Kermine. Here my mother lost both her
mother
> and cousin. Both died in the local hospital. My mother went to the hospital to
> see how they were, but was just told that they had died and given no more
> information !
>
> Shortly after this my mum was taken by ship across the Caspian sea to Pahlevi
in
> Persia and then to Teheran. Very soon after arriving there she was transported
> via Karachi to East Africa to a camp in Masindi. She was to live there for 6
> years until she joined up with my father in the U.K.
>
>
> They made a life together in Rochdale near Manchester.
>
>
> If anyone can give my any idea how I can find out were my mothers mum and
cousin
> were finally laid to rest after dying in the Hospital in Kysyltepa, I would
> appreciate it. I have tried sending an e-mail to the Polish Embassy in
> Uzbekistan, but have had no reply. It would be of great comfort to my Mum if I
> could get this information. She is not very well and time is precious.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Tadeusz Jan Grycuk
>
>
>
>
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>