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#36753 From: "henrypavlovich" <henrypavlovich@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: Hijacked email accounts
henrypavlovich
Send Email Send Email
 
Usually only the hijacked email account holder needs to change accounts and
passwords. Hania says that Yahoo have promised to get back to her, so they may
clarify further (they may say it's a virus or they may say that a bunch of
accounts and passwords have been compromised, in which case they should contact
all concerned and it'll be a major news story). An anti-virus application will
fail to spot such a virus if the recipient has already accepted it by opening
it. The warning choices displayed when you receive an attachment always say
something like "Do wish to scan this before opening it?" and most people assume
that if it's from someone they know then it's safe. It's a huge nuisance. Many
people would like to do unspeakable things to the perpetrators!
Henry Pavlovich
_______________________________
My book, Worlds Apart: Surviving Identity and Memory, is available from online
retailers, e.g. Amazon. There is more about the book and the context behind it
at www.henrypavlovich.com (ISBN 978-1-84728-226-2)
Some photos are on www.pbase.com/pavlovich

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Barbara Milligan" <bwbm@...> wrote:
>
> Do all of us have to set up new accounts and passwords or just Hania?
>
> Basia
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: henrypavlovich
>   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:56 PM
>   Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Hijacked email accounts
>
>
>     This is unfortunately a common scam nowadays. It is the same as that which
affected the Hotmail account of British Justice Secretary Jack Straw. An email
purporting to be from him went to his own office and hundreds of his
constituents informing them he needed cash in Lagos, Nigeria, because he had
lost his wallet. He had not been to the country. Usually the hoax email asks the
recipient to send money by Western Union. It is a computer virus targeting
Hotmail or Yahoo user names and passwords. The virus gets past computer
firewalls and anti-virus applications by pretending to be something benign which
the recipient clicks open and activates (usually an attachment like a photo or
spreadsheet). You have to set up new accounts and change all your passwords.
Henry Pavlovich
>   _______________________________
>   My book, Worlds Apart: Surviving Identity and Memory, is available from
online
>   retailers, e.g. Amazon. There is more about the book and the context behind
it
>   at www.henrypavlovich.com (ISBN 978-1-84728-226-2)
>   Some photos are on www.pbase.com/pavlovich
>

#36754 From: "Roma King" <roma@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 5:29 pm
Subject: RE: Pictures from All Souls yesterday
roma.king
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Thank you for sharing…lovely All Souls Commemoration in Buffalo….

With warmest regards,

Roma

 


From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Golebiowski
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 6:37 AM
To: Andy Golebiowski
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Pictures from All Souls yesterday

 

 

Pictures from the All Souls Commemoration in Buffalo can be seen at:

 



Andy

 

 

 


#36755 From: John Halucha <john.halucha@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hijacked email accounts
john.halucha
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I hope this didn't originate with a bogus message like the one I received Oct. 23, titled "Yahoo Alert: Your Account Information Has Changed". Because it requested personal account information I contacted Yahoo directly, and they verified that it was spam.
If anyone else gets a similar message that appears legitimate at first glance but seeks personal information, don't respond to it.
John Halucha
Sault Ste Marie, Canada


From: henrypavlovich <henrypavlovich@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 12:01:02 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Hijacked email accounts

 



Usually only the hijacked email account holder needs to change accounts and passwords. Hania says that Yahoo have promised to get back to her, so they may clarify further (they may say it's a virus or they may say that a bunch of accounts and passwords have been compromised, in which case they should contact all concerned and it'll be a major news story). An anti-virus application will fail to spot such a virus if the recipient has already accepted it by opening it. The warning choices displayed when you receive an attachment always say something like "Do wish to scan this before opening it?" and most people assume that if it's from someone they know then it's safe. It's a huge nuisance. Many people would like to do unspeakable things to the perpetrators!
Henry Pavlovich
____________ _________ _________ _
My book, Worlds Apart: Surviving Identity and Memory, is available from online retailers, e.g. Amazon. There is more about the book and the context behind it at www.henrypavlovich. com (ISBN 978-1-84728- 226-2)
Some photos are on www.pbase.com/ pavlovich

--- In Kresy-Siberia@ yahoogroups. com, "Barbara Milligan" <bwbm@...> wrote:
>
> Do all of us have to set up new accounts and passwords or just Hania?
>
> Basia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: henrypavlovich
> To: Kresy-Siberia@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:56 PM
> Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Hijacked email accounts
>
>
> This is unfortunately a common scam nowadays. It is the same as that which affected the Hotmail account of British Justice Secretary Jack Straw. An email purporting to be from him went to his own office and hundreds of his constituents informing them he needed cash in Lagos, Nigeria, because he had lost his wallet. He had not been to the country. Usually the hoax email asks the recipient to send money by Western Union. It is a computer virus targeting Hotmail or Yahoo user names and passwords. The virus gets past computer firewalls and anti-virus applications by pretending to be something benign which the recipient clicks open and activates (usually an attachment like a photo or spreadsheet) . You have to set up new accounts and change all your passwords. Henry Pavlovich
> ____________ _________ _________ _
> My book, Worlds Apart: Surviving Identity and Memory, is available from online
> retailers, e.g. Amazon. There is more about the book and the context behind it
> at www.henrypavlovich. com (ISBN 978-1-84728- 226-2)
> Some photos are on www.pbase.com/ pavlovich




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#36756 From: "Elizabeth Olsson" <elzunia@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 7:25 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Hijacked email accounts
elzuniao
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This sounds familiar: I got a message asking for my user name and password to a while ago. There was no sender name/company. Of course I didn’t answer it.

 

pozdrowienia
Elzunia Gradosielska Olsson
Alingsås, Sweden
Names: Maczka. Gradosielski.
Kresy: Osada Krechowiecka. Wilno.
Siberia: Monastyriok. Siewzeldorlag, Komi.
Army: Pestki 316 Transport.
Sappers 5KDP.

 


From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Halucha
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 6:59 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Hijacked email accounts

 

 

I hope this didn't originate with a bogus message like the one I received Oct. 23, titled "Yahoo Alert: Your Account Information Has Changed". Because it requested personal account information I contacted Yahoo directly, and they verified that it was spam.
If anyone else gets a similar message that appears legitimate at first glance but seeks personal information, don't respond to it.
John Halucha
Sault Ste Marie, Canada

 


From: henrypavlovich <henrypavlovich@yahoo.com>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 12:01:02 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Hijacked email accounts

 



Usually only the hijacked email account holder needs to change accounts and passwords. Hania says that Yahoo have promised to get back to her, so they may clarify further (they may say it's a virus or they may say that a bunch of accounts and passwords have been compromised, in which case they should contact all concerned and it'll be a major news story). An anti-virus application will fail to spot such a virus if the recipient has already accepted it by opening it. The warning choices displayed when you receive an attachment always say something like "Do wish to scan this before opening it?" and most people assume that if it's from someone they know then it's safe. It's a huge nuisance. Many people would like to do unspeakable things to the perpetrators!
Henry Pavlovich
____________ _________ _________ _
My book, Worlds Apart: Surviving Identity and Memory, is available from online retailers, e.g. Amazon. There is more about the book and the context behind it at www.henrypavlovich. com (ISBN 978-1-84728- 226-2)
Some photos are on www.pbase.com/ pavlovich

--- In Kresy-Siberia@ yahoogroups. com, "Barbara Milligan" <bwbm@...> wrote:
>
> Do all of us have to set up new accounts and passwords or just Hania?
>
> Basia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: henrypavlovich
> To: Kresy-Siberia@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:56 PM
> Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Hijacked email accounts
>
>
> This is unfortunately a common scam nowadays. It is the same as that which affected the Hotmail account of British Justice Secretary Jack Straw. An email purporting to be from him went to his own office and hundreds of his constituents informing them he needed cash in Lagos, Nigeria, because he had lost his wallet. He had not been to the country. Usually the hoax email asks the recipient to send money by Western Union. It is a computer virus targeting Hotmail or Yahoo user names and passwords. The virus gets past computer firewalls and anti-virus applications by pretending to be something benign which the recipient clicks open and activates (usually an attachment like a photo or spreadsheet) . You have to set up new accounts and change all your passwords. Henry Pavlovich
> ____________ _________ _________ _
> My book, Worlds Apart: Surviving Identity and Memory, is available from online
> retailers, e.g. Amazon. There is more about the book and the context behind it
> at www.henrypavlovich. com (ISBN 978-1-84728- 226-2)
> Some photos are on www.pbase.com/ pavlovich

 

 


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#36757 From: Anne Kaczanowski <annekaczanowski@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hijacked email accounts
annekaczanowski
Send Email Send Email
 
Well I think that this is my problem....because  that email  looked so authentic I did fill it out, and I wondered yesterday if this was the reason everything went nuts.
 
hania


From: John Halucha <john.halucha@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:58:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Hijacked email accounts

 

I hope this didn't originate with a bogus message like the one I received Oct. 23, titled "Yahoo Alert: Your Account Information Has Changed". Because it requested personal account information I contacted Yahoo directly, and they verified that it was spam.
If anyone else gets a similar message that appears legitimate at first glance but seeks personal information, don't respond to it.
John Halucha
Sault Ste Marie, Canada


From: henrypavlovich <henrypavlovich@ yahoo.com>
To: Kresy-Siberia@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 12:01:02 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Hijacked email accounts

 



Usually only the hijacked email account holder needs to change accounts and passwords. Hania says that Yahoo have promised to get back to her, so they may clarify further (they may say it's a virus or they may say that a bunch of accounts and passwords have been compromised, in which case they should contact all concerned and it'll be a major news story). An anti-virus application will fail to spot such a virus if the recipient has already accepted it by opening it. The warning choices displayed when you receive an attachment always say something like "Do wish to scan this before opening it?" and most people assume that if it's from someone they know then it's safe. It's a huge nuisance. Many people would like to do unspeakable things to the perpetrators!
Henry Pavlovich
____________ _________ _________ _
My book, Worlds Apart: Surviving Identity and Memory, is available from online retailers, e.g. Amazon. There is more about the book and the context behind it at www.henrypavlovich. com (ISBN 978-1-84728- 226-2)
Some photos are on www.pbase.com/ pavlovich

--- In Kresy-Siberia@ yahoogroups. com, "Barbara Milligan" <bwbm@...> wrote:
>
> Do all of us have to set up new accounts and passwords or just Hania?
>
> Basia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: henrypavlovich
> To: Kresy-Siberia@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:56 PM
> Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Hijacked email accounts
>
>
> This is unfortunately a common scam nowadays. It is the same as that which affected the Hotmail account of British Justice Secretary Jack Straw. An email purporting to be from him went to his own office and hundreds of his constituents informing them he needed cash in Lagos, Nigeria, because he had lost his wallet. He had not been to the country. Usually the hoax email asks the recipient to send money by Western Union. It is a computer virus targeting Hotmail or Yahoo user names and passwords. The virus gets past computer firewalls and anti-virus applications by pretending to be something benign which the recipient clicks open and activates (usually an attachment like a photo or spreadsheet) . You have to set up new accounts and change all your passwords. Henry Pavlovich
> ____________ _________ _________ _
> My book, Worlds Apart: Surviving Identity and Memory, is available from online
> retailers, e.g. Amazon. There is more about the book and the context behind it
> at www.henrypavlovich. com (ISBN 978-1-84728- 226-2)
> Some photos are on www.pbase.com/ pavlovich




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#36758 From: Anne Kaczanowski <annekaczanowski@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 8:56 pm
Subject: Bogus email rejected by some computers
annekaczanowski
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Many group member's email adresses rejected this bogus email and I was notified
of that...as their email address didn't like the recipient and so on. So some
people's computers were able to not accept this...I don't know why some did and
others didn't.

hania


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#36759 From: Anne Kaczanowski <annekaczanowski@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 9:10 pm
Subject: Yahoo Spam Information Questions
annekaczanowski
Send Email Send Email
 
Also I'd like to warn people that the Yahoo page that appeared on my screen
about a week ago said that changes were being made in the accounts and passwords
had to be retyped and info filled out or you wouldn't be able to use your
account.This did not come as an email that I opened...the screen appeared on my
page from nowhere....Questions that were asked of me were " my favorite
teacher'...and " my first car"....and of course my password.....thispage with
the questionaire did pop up yesterdayduring my initial sign in with Yahoo...as
I was opening my email messages...then I lost my password.Not everyone is as
smart as John to actually contact Yahoo....who has the time when something looks
so authentic...but my gut feeling at the time was to question whether this was
legitimate but everything looked authentic and I didn't think it was possible to
be from somewhere else.

hania


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#36760 From: <kms0902@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 10:49 pm
Subject: News from London ...
szypowska
Send Email Send Email
 
Hello all,

Here is a message I received from Danka Pniewska in the UK:

Krystyna Szypowska
Group Moderator

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
----
    I am involved in two fundraisings -
    a) the chapel Golgota Wschodu in Częstochowa and
    b)The Komitet 70 a group of 5 organizations of people who
    were young 70 years ago, survived deportations, organized Polish
    schools, churches, scouting, etc. abroad, and now are dying out.
    We are organizing a show and an exhibition in POSK London on
    the 6th of February 2010 aimed at the Polish Saturday Schools
    pupils and the new Polonia, trying to pass to them our memories.
    Should we gather any interesting exhibits or testimonials,
     we will gladly pass them over to KSVM.

    I also wanted to inform you that on the 12th of November at 6.30
    PM we will hold a launch of our book "Second World War Story
    of Poles in India 1942-48" at Nehru Centre in London,
    everybody welcomed. Can you pass this information to the
    other members of Kresy-Siberia?
    Thanks,

    Danka

#36761 From: "Aniela" <bechta1936@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 12:24 am
Subject: Re: Rehabilitaion [Exonertation] Certificate
bechta1936
Send Email Send Email
 
I received such certificate from Tarnopol, a request instigated by Memorial. A
very helpful lady, Pani Olga Czeperova, Czlonek Komisji Polskiej, has also
contacted other organizations on my behalf. i.e: Russian Red Cross, Uzbek
Archives, etc. -all on her own initiative!  It is no wonder they received an
Award!

Aniela
Auckland N.Z.

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "George" <ghelon@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> "Elizabeth Olsson" wrote:
>
> How did you know about or get this certificate? Is it something you applied
for?
>
> How can our family members be pardoned for crimes they never committed? They
were never accused of any crimes or sentenced by a court! Well, at least not the
civilians who were sent to Posiolki.
>
> ANSWER:
>
> I did not apply for any such Judgement of "Rehabilitation" and I had no idea
such a Certificate was being sent to me.
>
> "Rehabilitation" in the context of the former Soviet Union, and the
Post-Soviet states [Including the Ukraine], was the restoration of a person who
was criminally prosecuted without due basis, to the state of exoneration.
>
> The restoration of one's former: status, rank, privileges, or rights; albeit,
theoretically.
>
> I wonder if anybody else has received such a Document?
>
> [Wieslaw] George Helon
> Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia
>

#36762 From: Eve5J@...
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 9:15 am
Subject: Re:Bogus email rejected by some computers
eve5j
Send Email Send Email
 
Perhaps it is time to set the group's settings again so that attachments are not accepted.  This would eliminate half the battle right away.
 
Eve
 
 
 
 
 

#36763 From: "Krys Dobrzanski" <krysdobrzanski@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: Hijacked email accounts
krysdobrzanski
Send Email Send Email
 

Haniu,
 
Were you by any chance using a WiFi connection as it is very possible for hackers to "view" the contents of your PC and so, steal your identity? If you regularly use WiFi it is advisable to use a special protective account to access your personal information on line.
 
 
With warmest regards,
 
Krys - Ipswich, UK
 
(Krystyna Dobrzanska - researching Starzak)
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Hijacked email accounts

 

Thanks for the information Henry.  I scanned my computer and it showed no virus...then I uninstalled and reinstalled Norton anitvirus software, and rescanned the full system.
....and it says no virus or spyware found. Do you think that it is possible there is still a virus or spyware attached here somehwere.  I have contacted Yahoo because this happened while I was in my account at Yahoo and it definitely took my password.  They said they would get back to me in 24 hours.
 
hania


From: henrypavlovich <henrypavlovich@yahoo.com>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 7:56:14 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Hijacked email accounts

 

This is unfortunately a common scam nowadays. It is the same as that which affected the Hotmail account of British Justice Secretary Jack Straw. An email purporting to be from him went to his own office and hundreds of his constituents informing them he needed cash in Lagos, Nigeria, because he had lost his wallet. He had not been to the country. Usually the hoax email asks the recipient to send money by Western Union. It is a computer virus targeting Hotmail or Yahoo user names and passwords. The virus gets past computer firewalls and anti-virus applications by pretending to be something benign which the recipient clicks open and activates (usually an attachment like a photo or spreadsheet) . You have to set up new accounts and change all your passwords. Henry Pavlovich
____________ _________ _________ _
My book, Worlds Apart: Surviving Identity and Memory, is available from online
retailers, e.g. Amazon. There is more about the book and the context behind it
at www.henrypavlovich. com (ISBN 978-1-84728- 226-2)
Some photos are on www.pbase.com/ pavlovich



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#36764 From: Anne Kaczanowski <annekaczanowski@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 3:50 pm
Subject: Re: Hijacked email accounts
annekaczanowski
Send Email Send Email
 
I am sure now that what happened is that when I got the "pop up from  Yahoo"that asked for my password and personal info to update their files, which I answered,  I allowed someone to open up my email address. It had nothing to do with anyone's email or attachment....it was just a situation where the pop looked authentic even after I skeptically questioned it.  The Yahoo identification was as it looks on the Yahoo page.  But Yahoo has till not contacted me. Like I said yesterday.....many group members mailboxes rejected the letter so my question would be what makes one's person's email address more secure to the route of a spammer than another.  This has been a nightmare and I'm sorry to have taken up so much Kresy-Siberia time with this subject. Thanks to all who emailed me with concerns and offers to help.  
 
hania 
 
 


From: Krys Dobrzanski <krysdobrzanski@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 7:26:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Hijacked email accounts

 

Haniu,
 
Were you by any chance using a WiFi connection as it is very possible for hackers to "view" the contents of your PC and so, steal your identity? If you regularly use WiFi it is advisable to use a special protective account to access your personal information on line.
 
 
With warmest regards,
 
Krys - Ipswich, UK
 
(Krystyna Dobrzanska - researching Starzak)
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Hijacked email accounts

 

Thanks for the information Henry.  I scanned my computer and it showed no virus...then I uninstalled and reinstalled Norton anitvirus software, and rescanned the full system.
....and it says no virus or spyware found. Do you think that it is possible there is still a virus or spyware attached here somehwere.  I have contacted Yahoo because this happened while I was in my account at Yahoo and it definitely took my password.  They said they would get back to me in 24 hours.
 
hania


From: henrypavlovich <henrypavlovich@ yahoo.com>
To: Kresy-Siberia@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 7:56:14 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Hijacked email accounts

 

This is unfortunately a common scam nowadays. It is the same as that which affected the Hotmail account of British Justice Secretary Jack Straw. An email purporting to be from him went to his own office and hundreds of his constituents informing them he needed cash in Lagos, Nigeria, because he had lost his wallet. He had not been to the country. Usually the hoax email asks the recipient to send money by Western Union. It is a computer virus targeting Hotmail or Yahoo user names and passwords. The virus gets past computer firewalls and anti-virus applications by pretending to be something benign which the recipient clicks open and activates (usually an attachment like a photo or spreadsheet) . You have to set up new accounts and change all your passwords. Henry Pavlovich
____________ _________ _________ _
My book, Worlds Apart: Surviving Identity and Memory, is available from online
retailers, e.g. Amazon. There is more about the book and the context behind it
at www.henrypavlovich. com (ISBN 978-1-84728- 226-2)
Some photos are on www.pbase.com/ pavlovich



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#36765 From: "Lucyna Artymiuk" <lucyna.artymiuk@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 4:26 pm
Subject: Iran: A refuge for World War II's refugees
lucyna_98
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http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/1103/p18s01-hfes.html

 

 

Iran: A refuge for World War II's refugees

Hello. Thank you. Goodbye now. These words are the extent of my Farsi, so when a caretaker answered the bell at the gate of Tehran's Roman Catholic cemetery I froze. Truthfully, I hadn't anticipated that anyone would be watching over this quiet monument to a time most have forgotten.

The caretaker looked at me and his one-word question provided the password to enter.

"Polish?" he asked.

"Polish," I replied.

Last spring, I set out to explore Iran. As an American, I saw the trip as an opportunity to experience everyday Iran, to move beyond the political suspicions and outrageous rhetoric that have kept our countries at odds for 30 years. I looked forward to 12 days of art, history, Iranian food, and the chance to meet locals in a culture famed for its hospitality. It wasn't until I mentioned the trip to my grandmother that I began to consider searching out the piece of my family history that lies buried in the capital of the Islamic Republic.

I grew up hearing the story of my grandmother's long journey to America. Awakened in the middle of the night by soldiers on her farm in Poland, shipped off to Stalin's Siberia, then on to Tehran, and finally India, my grandmother spent her youth in the World War II refugee camps of Asia.

I was raised on Long Island, the second generation afforded the placid comforts of suburbia. My grandmother's history was powerful but distant, almost incomprehensible.

In 1939, my grandmother lived on the fault line of a world breaking apart. Poland was partitioned between the USSR and Nazi Germany. She lived in the east and was among the tens of thousands of Poles exiled in the early years of the Soviet occupation as part of Stalin's plan to populate Russia's northern regions. Along with her mother and three sisters she struggled to survive in Siberia. Later, when Hitler invaded Soviet territory, Stalin saw potential Allied soldiers in the Polish men he had uprooted and exiled. They and their families were freed and sent to Persia to rally as the Polish division of the Allied army.

By the time my grandmother and her sisters arrived in Tehran they were hungry and broken. Starvation and the harsh Siberian winter killed many Poles that year, my great-aunt among them. Seventeen years old, weakened and ravaged by the journey to Persia, Zenobia Kaftan never left Tehran.

A few days before my trip I e-mailed the Polish Embassy with my great-aunt's name. To my surprise they responded with directions to Dulab Cemetery in south Tehran where Zenobia had been buried in 1942.

My grandmother asked me to place four white roses on her grave, one for her mother and each of her sisters. I promised to try, but 67 years and a world of change had passed since my grandmother had buried her sister. I held little hope that the grave of a teenage refugee, one among thousands, would be traceable.

Iran is a beautiful and fascinating country. Spring break turned out to be everything I had looked forward to. On my last day in the capital, a friend and I found a taxi and set out in search of my great-aunt's grave. Our young driver made circles around the crowded southern neighborhood the Polish Embassy had pointed us toward until, tucked away on a side street, we spotted a tall gate with a cross. I rang the bell nervously, worried I might not find a way in. The two caretakers who answered seemed surprised to have a visitor. But they knew why I had come. They offered me tea and helped me search.

In Dulab Cemetery, the Polish plots are laid in pink stone, forming a small sea of those lost between 1942 and '43. "Zenobia Kaftan, 12/24/24 – 2/2/42 R.I.P." I placed my hand on the headstone, moved by the strangeness of finding family in a place so foreign.

My grandmother and her sisters had been marked by Stalin as disposable people, forgotten by a world that was falling to pieces. Persia became a home in their time of need.

Recently, the world bore witness to the violence being meted out in the streets of Tehran. Yet, in spite of the brutality, Iranians continued to gather; they refused to be silenced. As I watched I thought of my grandmother's journey, of the human costs of political corruption and greed, and not least of the surprising tenacity of the human spirit.

 

 

 

 


#36766 From: "Alicja" <alicjae2@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 10:03 pm
Subject: Re: Iran: A refuge for World War II's refugees
alicjae2
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http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/1103/p18s01-hfes.html

Iran: A refuge for World War II's refugees

Hello. Thank you. Goodbye now. These words are the extent of my Farsi, so when a caretaker answered the bell at the gate of Tehran's Roman Catholic cemetery I froze. Truthfully, I hadn't anticipated that anyone would be watching over this quiet monument to a time most have forgotten.

The caretaker looked at me and his one-word question provided the password to enter.

"Polish?" he asked.

"Polish," I replied.

Last spring, I set out to explore Iran. As an American, I saw the trip as an opportunity to experience everyday Iran, to move beyond the political suspicions and outrageous rhetoric that have kept our countries at odds for 30 years. I looked forward to 12 days of art, history, Iranian food, and the chance to meet locals in a culture famed for its hospitality. It wasn't until I mentioned the trip to my grandmother that I began to consider searching out the piece of my family history that lies buried in the capital of the Islamic Republic.

I grew up hearing the story of my grandmother's long journey to America. Awakened in the middle of the night by soldiers on her farm in Poland, shipped off to Stalin's Siberia, then on to Tehran, and finally India, my grandmother spent her youth in the World War II refugee camps of Asia.

I was raised on Long Island, the second generation afforded the placid comforts of suburbia. My grandmother's history was powerful but distant, almost incomprehensible.

In 1939, my grandmother lived on the fault line of a world breaking apart. Poland was partitioned between the USSR and Nazi Germany. She lived in the east and was among the tens of thousands of Poles exiled in the early years of the Soviet occupation as part of Stalin's plan to populate Russia's northern regions. Along with her mother and three sisters she struggled to survive in Siberia. Later, when Hitler invaded Soviet territory, Stalin saw potential Allied soldiers in the Polish men he had uprooted and exiled. They and their families were freed and sent to Persia to rally as the Polish division of the Allied army.

By the time my grandmother and her sisters arrived in Tehran they were hungry and broken. Starvation and the harsh Siberian winter killed many Poles that year, my great-aunt among them. Seventeen years old, weakened and ravaged by the journey to Persia, Zenobia Kaftan never left Tehran.

A few days before my trip I e-mailed the Polish Embassy with my great-aunt's name. To my surprise they responded with directions to Dulab Cemetery in south Tehran where Zenobia had been buried in 1942.

My grandmother asked me to place four white roses on her grave, one for her mother and each of her sisters. I promised to try, but 67 years and a world of change had passed since my grandmother had buried her sister. I held little hope that the grave of a teenage refugee, one among thousands, would be traceable.

Iran is a beautiful and fascinating country. Spring break turned out to be everything I had looked forward to. On my last day in the capital, a friend and I found a taxi and set out in search of my great-aunt's grave. Our young driver made circles around the crowded southern neighborhood the Polish Embassy had pointed us toward until, tucked away on a side street, we spotted a tall gate with a cross. I rang the bell nervously, worried I might not find a way in. The two caretakers who answered seemed surprised to have a visitor. But they knew why I had come. They offered me tea and helped me search.

In Dulab Cemetery, the Polish plots are laid in pink stone, forming a small sea of those lost between 1942 and '43. "Zenobia Kaftan, 12/24/24 2/2/42 R.I.P." I placed my hand on the headstone, moved by the strangeness of finding family in a place so foreign.

My grandmother and her sisters had been marked by Stalin as disposable people, forgotten by a world that was falling to pieces. Persia became a home in their time of need.

Recently, the world bore witness to the violence being meted out in the streets of Tehran. Yet, in spite of the brutality, Iranians continued to gather; they refused to be silenced. As I watched I thought of my grandmother's journey, of the human costs of political corruption and greed, and not least of the surprising tenacity of the human spirit.



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#36767 From: <kms0902@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: Iran: A refuge for World War II's refugees
szypowska
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Iran: A refuge for World War II's refugees
 

Testing to see if this reaches you.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Iran: A refuge for World War II's refugees

 

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/1103/p18s01-hfes.html

Iran: A refuge for World War II's refugees

.


#36768 From: "Alicja" <alicjae2@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: Iran: A refuge for World War II's refugees
alicjae2
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My name is Alicja Edwards, I am a survivor of Kazachstan, -presently I amj working on a manuscript about our exile in Iran (almost done), can you help me to contect Siinai- thank you - Alicja
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Iran: A refuge for World War II's refugees

 

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/1103/p18s01-hfes.html

Iran: A refuge for World War II's refugees

Hello. Thank you. Goodbye now. These words are the extent of my Farsi, so when a caretaker answered the bell at the gate of Tehran's Roman Catholic cemetery I froze. Truthfully, I hadn't anticipated that anyone would be watching over this quiet monument to a time most have forgotten.

The caretaker looked at me and his one-word question provided the password to enter.

"Polish?" he asked.

"Polish," I replied.

Last spring, I set out to explore Iran. As an American, I saw the trip as an opportunity to experience everyday Iran, to move beyond the political suspicions and outrageous rhetoric that have kept our countries at odds for 30 years. I looked forward to 12 days of art, history, Iranian food, and the chance to meet locals in a culture famed for its hospitality. It wasn't until I mentioned the trip to my grandmother that I began to consider searching out the piece of my family history that lies buried in the capital of the Islamic Republic.

I grew up hearing the story of my grandmother's long journey to America. Awakened in the middle of the night by soldiers on her farm in Poland, shipped off to Stalin's Siberia, then on to Tehran, and finally India, my grandmother spent her youth in the World War II refugee camps of Asia.

I was raised on Long Island, the second generation afforded the placid comforts of suburbia. My grandmother's history was powerful but distant, almost incomprehensible.

In 1939, my grandmother lived on the fault line of a world breaking apart. Poland was partitioned between the USSR and Nazi Germany. She lived in the east and was among the tens of thousands of Poles exiled in the early years of the Soviet occupation as part of Stalin's plan to populate Russia's northern regions. Along with her mother and three sisters she struggled to survive in Siberia. Later, when Hitler invaded Soviet territory, Stalin saw potential Allied soldiers in the Polish men he had uprooted and exiled. They and their families were freed and sent to Persia to rally as the Polish division of the Allied army.

By the time my grandmother and her sisters arrived in Tehran they were hungry and broken. Starvation and the harsh Siberian winter killed many Poles that year, my great-aunt among them. Seventeen years old, weakened and ravaged by the journey to Persia, Zenobia Kaftan never left Tehran.

A few days before my trip I e-mailed the Polish Embassy with my great-aunt's name. To my surprise they responded with directions to Dulab Cemetery in south Tehran where Zenobia had been buried in 1942.

My grandmother asked me to place four white roses on her grave, one for her mother and each of her sisters. I promised to try, but 67 years and a world of change had passed since my grandmother had buried her sister. I held little hope that the grave of a teenage refugee, one among thousands, would be traceable.

Iran is a beautiful and fascinating country. Spring break turned out to be everything I had looked forward to. On my last day in the capital, a friend and I found a taxi and set out in search of my great-aunt's grave. Our young driver made circles around the crowded southern neighborhood the Polish Embassy had pointed us toward until, tucked away on a side street, we spotted a tall gate with a cross. I rang the bell nervously, worried I might not find a way in. The two caretakers who answered seemed surprised to have a visitor. But they knew why I had come. They offered me tea and helped me search.

In Dulab Cemetery, the Polish plots are laid in pink stone, forming a small sea of those lost between 1942 and '43. "Zenobia Kaftan, 12/24/24 2/2/42 R.I.P." I placed my hand on the headstone, moved by the strangeness of finding family in a place so foreign.

My grandmother and her sisters had been marked by Stalin as disposable people, forgotten by a world that was falling to pieces. Persia became a home in their time of need.

Recently, the world bore witness to the violence being meted out in the streets of Tehran. Yet, in spite of the brutality, Iranians continued to gather; they refused to be silenced. As I watched I thought of my grandmother's journey, of the human costs of political corruption and greed, and not least of the surprising tenacity of the human spirit.



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#36769 From: "henrypavlovich" <henrypavlovich@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 8:49 pm
Subject: "Phishing"
henrypavlovich
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This is the internet term for what Hania was a victim of: the hacker copies a
real web site (belonging to Yahoo, Hotmail, Paypal, or more often even a bank)
from the genuine original website and then sends it to a victim with a lie. The
design of the email copied from a genuine original and the lying message are
designed to make the recipient think it's genuine and voluntarily to give up
account and password details. The lie is often that there is a security check,
or that your account has been blocked temporarily, and that you need to enter
your account details and password. If the "phishing" involves a fake bank or
Paypal request, then your money disappears. If a bank is involved, it is best to
contact the real bank (not through the received email) to ask if the message is
genuine. Most anti-virus packages (e.g. Kaspersky) will spot phishing attempts
and warn you (loudly if you have the sound switched on). Unfortunately for
Hania, Yahoo will say it was her fault. Thank goodness she didn't lose any
money; I hope she didn't. Henry Pavlovich
_____________________________________________
My book, Worlds Apart: Surviving Identity and Memory, is available from online
retailers, e.g. Amazon. There is more about the book and the context behind it
at www.henrypavlovich.com (ISBN 978-1-84728-226-2)
Some photos are on www.pbase.com/pavlovich

#36770 From: "Kaytee" <kaytee@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 3:55 am
Subject: Re: Researching life of Helena Skwarek
kayhfn
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Antoni, I have the Skwarek/Skwarok name in my family tree.  In the ancestral
records from Jasienow Polny: Births 1876 - 1889 Flm No 2205426 Item 6 the name
is spelt Szkwarko.

Cathy

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Antoni Kazimierski" <ASKAZIMIERSKI@...>
wrote:
>
> Sofia,
> As far as I know there were ZAOZIERJE,;TOROS-OZIERO; SZOMB-OZIERO; TUSZYLOWO
and POLOWINO camps in the
> Karelo-Finskoj area of the Soviet Union.
> Are these names familiar to your mom?
> Or was Karelja itself where she was and were there other members of her family
in the same region?
> Presumably we are to look for Skwarek name--is it so?
> A little more help is required.
> Antoni530
>

#36771 From: "Antoni Kazimierski" <ASKAZIMIERSKI@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 11:56 am
Subject: Researching life of Helena Skwarek
antoni530
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Sophia,
I refer to your note /message 36632 (Oct 26th last) and in answer to your question re your relatives from Tlumacz, there was another large family sent to Komi ASSR to a posiolek called KYŁTOWO from the vicinity of Tłumacz in Stanisławowskie.The name is SZKWAREK  (in Records) and the members of that family were ;
Anna; Eugenia;  Genowefa;  Janina;  Jozef;  Krystyna;  Magdalena;  Marcin;  Mieczyslaw;  Mieczyslaw;  Weronika;  Wladyslaw.
 
I am not sure if it was from Oleszow village or not, but certainly from Tlumacz area where they were sent from.
 
It seems likely that they were/are your relatives.
antoni 530 in UK..
 
It is worth exploring all kinds of variants of the family name because in translations from Cyrillic sometimes entries are changed

#36772 From: "krystyna" <kms0902@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 12:14 am
Subject: Attachments
szypowska
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In order to avoid any problems with viruses being inadvertently passed on to our
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off.

Effective immediately, it will no longer be possible to attach files or photos
to your messages.

Krystyna Szypowska, for Stefan Wisniowski

#36773 From: "Andrzej w Buffalo" <andywbuffalo@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 3:40 am
Subject: "Camp Prayer" O, Panie ktorys jest na niebie
andywbuffalo
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Perhaps some of you know this song, which became a hymn for Polish exiles around
the world.

You can see/hear a rendition of it at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVYpZgox5RU

It was sung at our All Souls Commemoration by Fr. Czeslaw Krysa, and earlier at
a Reunion Mass of Polish WWII Survivors in Buffalo.


Modlitwa Obozowa (O, Panie...)

Słowa i muzyka: Adam Kowalski

O Panie, któryś jest na niebie,
Wyciągnij sprawiedliwą dłoń,
Wołamy ze wszech stron do Ciebie
O polski dach i polską dłoń.
O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj,
Do wolnej Polski nam powrócić daj,
By stał się źródłem nowej siły
Nasz dom, nasz kraj.

O Panie, usłysz prośby nasze,
Wysłuchaj nasz tułaczy śpiew,
Znad Warty, Niemna, Bugu, Sanu,
Męczeńska do Cię woła krew.
O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj

O Panie, wejrzyj sprawiedliwie
Na walkę naszą w ciemną noc.
Modlimy się o to gorliwie,
By okupanta złamać moc.
O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj

Pieśn ta została ułożona i śpiewana po raz pierwszy 70 lat temu-w
październiku 1939 roku w obozie w Rumunii przez żołnierzy Polskich.


(English Translation)

Camp Prayer O, Lord in Heaven, Extend a just hand, We call to You from all
corners, For a Polish roof and a Polish hand.

O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land,
Let us return to a Poland that's free,
So that it may be a source of new strength,
Our home, our land.

O, Lord, hear our prayers,
Hear our exile's song,
From the Warta, the Niemen, the Bug and the San Rivers,
The Martyrs' Blood Calls to You.

O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land

O, Lord, see justly, Our battle in the darkness of night,
We fervently pray,
To break the occupier's might.

O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land

This song was written and first sung 70 years ago, in October 1939 by Polish
soldiers imprisoned in Romania and continued to be sung by Poles in the various
countries they found themselves in during WWII and after.

Andy Golebiowski
Buffalo, N.Y.
USA

#36774 From: "Lucyna Artymiuk" <lucyna.artymiuk@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:30 am
Subject: Fourth annual Polish Film Festival to be held in Hamburg on Saturday
lucyna_98
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http://www.thesunnews.net/sunscene.php3?idkey=5957

 

 

Fourth annual Polish Film Festival to be held in Hamburg on Saturday

Canisius College will be sponsoring the fourth annual Polish Film Festival this weekend, an event that will take place in the Village of Hamburg.

From Thursday, Nov. 5 through Sunday, Nov. 8 movie houses all across Western New York will be have a special showcase of Polish films.

The Palace Theatre will be participating in the event on Saturday, Nov. 7.

The moviehouse will be showing, "Children in Exile"at3 p.m. and "Ryda (Scratch" at 4 p.m.

"Children in Exile" is a 2007 film where the survivors of the Soviet deportation to Siberia describe their experiences as the youngest victims of the Soviet system.

"Rysa" is about a contemporary university town of Krakow. The film follows Joanna and Jan who are a middle-aged and loving married couple.

One day Joanna receives a note from someone about an alleged unforeseen deed committed by her husband in the past.

The negative allegations gradually cast a shadow over their relationship.

Both films are shown in Polish with English subtitles. The admission will be $5 per person.

The Hamburg Palace Theatre is located at 31 Buffalo Street in the Village of Hamburg.


#36775 From: "Barbara Milligan" <bwbm@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 11:13 am
Subject: Re: Re: Rehabilitaion [Exonertation] Certificate
basia5milligan
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How long did you have to wait for a reply? Did you write by e-mail or by post?
 
Basia  (UK)
----- Original Message -----
From: Aniela
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:24 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Rehabilitaion [Exonertation] Certificate

 

I received such certificate from Tarnopol, a request instigated by Memorial. A very helpful lady, Pani Olga Czeperova, Czlonek Komisji Polskiej, has also contacted other organizations on my behalf. i.e: Russian Red Cross, Uzbek Archives, etc. -all on her own initiative! It is no wonder they received an Award!

Aniela
Auckland N.Z.

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "George" <ghelon@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> "Elizabeth Olsson" wrote:
>
> How did you know about or get this certificate? Is it something you applied for?
>
> How can our family members be pardoned for crimes they never committed? They were never accused of any crimes or sentenced by a court! Well, at least not the civilians who were sent to Posiolki.
>
> ANSWER:
>
> I did not apply for any such Judgement of "Rehabilitation" and I had no idea such a Certificate was being sent to me.
>
> "Rehabilitation" in the context of the former Soviet Union, and the Post-Soviet states [Including the Ukraine], was the restoration of a person who was criminally prosecuted without due basis, to the state of exoneration.
>
> The restoration of one's former: status, rank, privileges, or rights; albeit, theoretically.
>
> I wonder if anybody else has received such a Document?
>
> [Wieslaw] George Helon
> Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia
>


#36776 From: "Krystyna Freiburger" <krystynafreiburger@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: "Camp Prayer" O, Panie ktorys jest na niebie
zembocin
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Hi Andy..................I always loved that Hymn. They still sing it in our Polish Church but they do not sing certain  lines such as "Do wolnej Polski nam powrocic daj" because Poland is free now but at the moment I can't remember the words that they have replaced them with.
Krystyna Freiburger
Waterloo, Ontario
canada
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:40 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] "Camp Prayer" O, Panie ktorys jest na niebie

 

Perhaps some of you know this song, which became a hymn for Polish exiles around the world.

You can see/hear a rendition of it at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVYpZgox5RU

It was sung at our All Souls Commemoration by Fr. Czeslaw Krysa, and earlier at a Reunion Mass of Polish WWII Survivors in Buffalo.

Modlitwa Obozowa (O, Panie...)

Słowa i muzyka: Adam Kowalski

O Panie, któryś jest na niebie,
Wyciągnij sprawiedliwą dłoń,
Wołamy ze wszech stron do Ciebie
O polski dach i polską dłoń.
O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj,
Do wolnej Polski nam powrócić daj,
By stał się źródłem nowej siły
Nasz dom, nasz kraj.

O Panie, usłysz prośby nasze,
Wysłuchaj nasz tułaczy śpiew,
Znad Warty, Niemna, Bugu, Sanu,
Męczeńska do Cię woła krew.
O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj

O Panie, wejrzyj sprawiedliwie
Na walkę naszą w ciemną noc.
Modlimy się o to gorliwie,
By okupanta złamać moc.
O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj

Pieśn ta została ułożona i śpiewana po raz pierwszy 70 lat temu-w październiku 1939 roku w obozie w Rumunii przez żołnierzy Polskich.

(English Translation)

Camp Prayer O, Lord in Heaven, Extend a just hand, We call to You from all corners, For a Polish roof and a Polish hand.

O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land,
Let us return to a Poland that's free,
So that it may be a source of new strength,
Our home, our land.

O, Lord, hear our prayers,
Hear our exile's song,
From the Warta, the Niemen, the Bug and the San Rivers,
The Martyrs' Blood Calls to You.

O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land

O, Lord, see justly, Our battle in the darkness of night,
We fervently pray,
To break the occupier's might.

O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land

This song was written and first sung 70 years ago, in October 1939 by Polish soldiers imprisoned in Romania and continued to be sung by Poles in the various countries they found themselves in during WWII and after.

Andy Golebiowski
Buffalo, N.Y.
USA


#36777 From: "Lucyna Artymiuk" <lucyna.artymiuk@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 2:28 pm
Subject: FW: CHILDREN, FAMILIES AND THE MIGRATION EXPERIENCE
lucyna_98
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-----Original Message-----
From: H-Net Network on Migration History [mailto:H-MIGRATION@...]
On Behalf Of Schrover, M.L.J.C.
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2009 12:28 AM
To: H-MIGRATION@...
Subject: Cfp: CHILDREN, FAMILIES AND THE MIGRATION EXPERIENCE




CALL FOR PAPERS/ POSTER PRESENTATIONS
CONFERENCE
CHILDREN, FAMILIES AND THE MIGRATION EXPERIENCE: OPPORTUNITIES AND
CHALLENGES Middlesex University, Hendon Campus, London, NW4 4BT - Friday
21 May 2010
Confirmed Keynote speakers:    Prof Viv Edwards, NCLL, University of
Reading
        				 Prof Ann Phoenix, Institute of
Education, University of London

In recent years new patterns of migration to Britain and other European
states have emerged associated with, for example, EU enlargement. These
have had diverse implications for family migration strategies.  In
contrast to historical patterns of migration which were generally
perceived as involving long term or permanent settlement, this new
migration often involves more transitory patterns of mobility.
Nevertheless, short term stay may be extended over time often leading to
family reunion and family formation.  The impact of this new migratory
strategies, especially on children, is beginning to be explored by
researchers and to spark interest among policy makers and service
providers as they respond to new needs, for example of new arrivals in
schools.
This conference will bring together research on a range of issues
relevant to this new phenomenon.

Specific themes may include:
* Current migration patterns, family strategies and family reunion
* Migrants from the new EU states
* The emotional impact of migration
* New arrivals and the transition to schooling
* Migration, education and parental expectations
* Language acquisition, language transition and bi-lingualism

Please send abstracts for papers or poster presentations of no more than
300 words to Magda Lopez Rodriguez at m.rodriguez@... by 16
December 2009.

The event is part of a project funded through the ESRC Knowledge
Transfer and Exchange Programme. The project aims to disseminate and
further discuss the findings of a research report Polish Children in
London Primary Schools: challenges and opportunities (funded by
Multiverse) amongst education practitioners, policy makers and
researchers. The final report of the project will be launched at the
conference.

Conference organisers: Louise Ryan, Alessio D'Angelo, Magda Lopez
Rodriguez and Rosemary Sales, Social Policy Research Centre, Middlesex
University.
http://www.mdx.ac.uk/hssc/research/centres/sprc/index.asp

Dr Louise Ryan,
Reader in Gender and Migration,
Co-Director of the Social Policy Research Centre, Middlesex University,
Hendon, NW4 4BT Co-Director Social Policy Research Centre
http://www.mdx.ac.uk/schools/hssc/research/centres/sprc/index.asp

#36778 From: "Lucyna Artymiuk" <lucyna.artymiuk@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 4:08 pm
Subject: The Polish Festival @ Federation Square - the biggest Polish festival down under
lucyna_98
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Polish Festival @ Federation Square

November 2009

 

Zapraszamy / Join us

We’re turning 5 – help us celebrate this milestone

At the Polish Festival @ Federation Square
On Sunday 15th November 2009
10.00 am - 5.00 pm

Where we’ll bring a taste of Poland to the centre of Melbourne


The Polish Festival T shirt

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The Polish Festival
T shirt is back in 2009
with more colours
Click here for details

Limited numbers so order now


THE AFTER PARTY

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NEW IN 2009

Polish Festival @ Federation Square
Inaugural AfterParty
From 5.00 p.m. at Transport
Click here for details

The fun continues


POLISH FILM @ THE FESTIVAL

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Ostatnia akcja
(Last Action)
Click here for details

Early bookings are recommended to save disappointment


WHAT’S HAPPENING @ THE FESTIVAL

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Lots to see and do in 2009
Check out the program and stalls

So you don't miss anything


AN EXPERIENCE FOR THE KIDS TO REMEMBER

tshirts

KIDSTOP
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#36779 From: "tinijoroga" <tinijoroga@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: "Camp Prayer" O, Panie ktorys jest na niebie
tinijoroga
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HI ANDY, KRYSIU and ALL:

I seem to remember different wording to that beautiful song, one which now
brings back such wonderful memories from my childhood......

O Panie któryś jest na niebie,
Wyciągnij sprawiedliwą dłoń.
Wołamy z CUDZYCH ston to Ciebie
O Polski dach i Polską BROŃ.
O Panie skruć ten miecz co siecze nasz kraj,
Do wolnej Polski nam powrócić daj.
By STAŁ sie TWIERDZĄ nowej siły
Nasz dom, nasz dom!

Don't remember other verses, but this one is prominent in my mind.  Hope the
accents come out right!

BOZENA - Florida, USA

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Krystyna Freiburger"
<krystynafreiburger@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Andy..................I always loved that Hymn. They still sing it in our
Polish Church but they do not sing certain  lines such as "Do wolnej Polski nam
powrocic daj" because Poland is free now but at the moment I can't remember the
words that they have replaced them with.
> Krystyna Freiburger
> Waterloo, Ontario
> canada
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Andrzej w Buffalo
>   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:40 PM
>   Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] "Camp Prayer" O, Panie ktorys jest na niebie
>
>
>
>   Perhaps some of you know this song, which became a hymn for Polish exiles
around the world.
>
>   You can see/hear a rendition of it at:
>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVYpZgox5RU
>
>   It was sung at our All Souls Commemoration by Fr. Czeslaw Krysa, and earlier
at a Reunion Mass of Polish WWII Survivors in Buffalo.
>
>   Modlitwa Obozowa (O, Panie...)
>
>   Słowa i muzyka: Adam Kowalski
>
>   O Panie, któryś jest na niebie,
>   Wyciągnij sprawiedliwą dłoń,
>   Wołamy ze wszech stron do Ciebie
>   O polski dach i polską dłoń.
>   O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj,
>   Do wolnej Polski nam powrócić daj,
>   By stał się źródłem nowej siły
>   Nasz dom, nasz kraj.
>
>   O Panie, usłysz prośby nasze,
>   Wysłuchaj nasz tułaczy śpiew,
>   Znad Warty, Niemna, Bugu, Sanu,
>   Męczeńska do Cię woła krew.
>   O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj
>
>   O Panie, wejrzyj sprawiedliwie
>   Na walkę naszą w ciemną noc.
>   Modlimy się o to gorliwie,
>   By okupanta złamać moc.
>   O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj
>
>   Pieśn ta została ułożona i śpiewana po raz pierwszy 70 lat temu-w
październiku 1939 roku w obozie w Rumunii przez żołnierzy Polskich.
>
>   (English Translation)
>
>   Camp Prayer O, Lord in Heaven, Extend a just hand, We call to You from all
corners, For a Polish roof and a Polish hand.
>
>   O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land,
>   Let us return to a Poland that's free,
>   So that it may be a source of new strength,
>   Our home, our land.
>
>   O, Lord, hear our prayers,
>   Hear our exile's song,
>   From the Warta, the Niemen, the Bug and the San Rivers,
>   The Martyrs' Blood Calls to You.
>
>   O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land
>
>   O, Lord, see justly, Our battle in the darkness of night,
>   We fervently pray,
>   To break the occupier's might.
>
>   O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land
>
>   This song was written and first sung 70 years ago, in October 1939 by Polish
soldiers imprisoned in Romania and continued to be sung by Poles in the various
countries they found themselves in during WWII and after.
>
>   Andy Golebiowski
>   Buffalo, N.Y.
>   USA
>

#36780 From: "Barbara Scrivens" <scrivs@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 9:03 pm
Subject: thank you and fyi
scrivs...
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Dear Antoni and group,

 

Firstly, thank you so much, Antoni, for your guidance in my quest for a birth certificate from the Rzeszw Urzd Stanu Cywilnego. I told you I had emailed the manager and had not received a reply. Anyway, I did find the offices - to be told my email had been received and replied to (I have still not received it). They remembered my email, remembered the family name (Surowiec) and village (Bratkowice) and said they had sent my details to wilczy, where the records were.

 

There, I did get a copy of my uncle’s birth certificate, which was the last thing I needed for the MoD requirements for my maternal grandfather’s war records.

 

The woman in wilczy was officious to the nth degree in the beginning but ended up a honey. In my email, I had made it very clear about the day I was planning to visit and was also clear about the names and birth dates of the people I was interested in, but it was in English. In spite of this, she had the books showing details of my grandparents and their parents and others I was interested in, although some of the entries had Christian names spelled differently from those I later received from the village church.

 

My message is: don’t be afraid of asking in writing, even if it is in English as there always seems to be someone around who will translate but be prepared to have questions asked in Polish. My Polish isn’t the greatest on earth, but I am able to hold a conversation. Also, I had documentation to prove who I was and was politely tenacious.

 

While I was doing the official bit, my mother’s cousin, bless her, went to their local priest in Bratkowice and not only got the baptism certificates of my grandparents, but also included wedding details. The priest even wrote out the names of their parents and grandparents.

 

Before I left, Aniela had reminded me to ask my rellies about how those in the village had fared in the war (sometime we get too absorbed in our own needs to remember those left behind must also have suffered). And indeed, the tiny village of Bratkowice had its own Zonierze Armii Krajowiej. In the cemetery there is a memorial to the 19 men who lost their lives between July 26, 1944 and August 2, 1944, fighting German advances.

 

Both my very English husband and I thought this would be a one and only trip to Poland. We are used to Polish hospitality but were overwhelmed at the absolute loving embrace of this distant family. One scheduled visit ended in three – and in the true Polish way, all three round the dining table! We were humbled by their graciousness and generosity. Even though a young cousin was the only one who spoke a few words of English, and I had to rack my brain at times for the correct words, the visits were easy. They were so pleased to see us. We both came away with a better understanding and a determination to return.

 

As for the MoD, while I was in Poland, an early letter of mine had been returned by Royal Mail with a ‘gone away’ sticker. I had used an address I’d found on this site, Army Records Centre (Polish Section), Bourne Ave, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1RF. (No trying to forward to another address, heaven forbid someone should try and be helpful.) The correct address is the Northolt one.

 

Kind regards – Barbara Scrivens, NZ

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#36781 From: Jerzy Neisser <George.Neisser@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 9:26 pm
Subject: Re: Re: "Camp Prayer" O, Panie ktorys jest na niebie
jerzyzbigniew
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Dear all,
          Go to www.youtube.com and do a search on:

   'Modlitwa Polskiego Zolnierza' (The Polish Soldier's Prayer).

Jurek Neisser


Quoting tinijoroga <tinijoroga@...>:

> HI ANDY, KRYSIU and ALL:
>
> I seem to remember different wording to that beautiful song, one
> which now brings back such wonderful memories from my childhood......
>
> O Panie któryś jest na niebie,
> Wyciągnij sprawiedliwą dłoń.
> Wołamy z CUDZYCH ston to Ciebie
> O Polski dach i Polską BROŃ.
> O Panie skruć ten miecz co siecze nasz kraj,
> Do wolnej Polski nam powrócić daj.
> By STAŁ sie TWIERDZĄ nowej siły
> Nasz dom, nasz dom!
>
> Don't remember other verses, but this one is prominent in my mind.
> Hope the accents come out right!
>
> BOZENA - Florida, USA
>
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "Krystyna Freiburger"
> <krystynafreiburger@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andy..................I always loved that Hymn. They still sing
>> it in our Polish Church but they do not sing certain  lines such as
>> "Do wolnej Polski nam powrocic daj" because Poland is free now but
>> at the moment I can't remember the words that they have replaced
>> them with.
>> Krystyna Freiburger
>> Waterloo, Ontario
>> canada
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Andrzej w Buffalo
>>   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
>>   Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:40 PM
>>   Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] "Camp Prayer" O, Panie ktorys jest na niebie
>>
>>
>>
>>   Perhaps some of you know this song, which became a hymn for
>> Polish exiles around the world.
>>
>>   You can see/hear a rendition of it at:
>>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVYpZgox5RU
>>
>>   It was sung at our All Souls Commemoration by Fr. Czeslaw Krysa,
>> and earlier at a Reunion Mass of Polish WWII Survivors in Buffalo.
>>
>>   Modlitwa Obozowa (O, Panie...)
>>
>>   Słowa i muzyka: Adam Kowalski
>>
>>   O Panie, któryś jest na niebie,
>>   Wyciągnij sprawiedliwą dłoń,
>>   Wołamy ze wszech stron do Ciebie
>>   O polski dach i polską dłoń.
>>   O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj,
>>   Do wolnej Polski nam powrócić daj,
>>   By stał się źródłem nowej siły
>>   Nasz dom, nasz kraj.
>>
>>   O Panie, usłysz prośby nasze,
>>   Wysłuchaj nasz tułaczy śpiew,
>>   Znad Warty, Niemna, Bugu, Sanu,
>>   Męczeńska do Cię woła krew.
>>   O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj
>>
>>   O Panie, wejrzyj sprawiedliwie
>>   Na walkę naszą w ciemną noc.
>>   Modlimy się o to gorliwie,
>>   By okupanta złamać moc.
>>   O Panie, skrusz ten miecz, co siekł nasz kraj
>>
>>   Pieśn ta została ułożona i śpiewana po raz pierwszy 70 lat
>> temu-w październiku 1939 roku w obozie w Rumunii przez żołnierzy
>> Polskich.
>>
>>   (English Translation)
>>
>>   Camp Prayer O, Lord in Heaven, Extend a just hand, We call to You
>> from all corners, For a Polish roof and a Polish hand.
>>
>>   O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land,
>>   Let us return to a Poland that's free,
>>   So that it may be a source of new strength,
>>   Our home, our land.
>>
>>   O, Lord, hear our prayers,
>>   Hear our exile's song,
>>   From the Warta, the Niemen, the Bug and the San Rivers,
>>   The Martyrs' Blood Calls to You.
>>
>>   O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land
>>
>>   O, Lord, see justly, Our battle in the darkness of night,
>>   We fervently pray,
>>   To break the occupier's might.
>>
>>   O, Lord, crush the sword that slashed our land
>>
>>   This song was written and first sung 70 years ago, in October
>> 1939 by Polish soldiers imprisoned in Romania and continued to be
>> sung by Poles in the various countries they found themselves in
>> during WWII and after.
>>
>>   Andy Golebiowski
>>   Buffalo, N.Y.
>>   USA
>>
>
>
>

#36782 From: "Elizabeth Olsson" <elzunia@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 9:49 pm
Subject: RE: thank you and fyi
elzuniao
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Hi Barbara

Congratulations on getting all the documentation you were looking for – many members have said this before, you should never give up!  Documents and hospitable relatives – must have been quite a trip!

 

I’m sorry you had the wrong address for the MoD, it must have been very old information as it’s quite a while ago they moved.

I will add this info to our Research Links File in the Files section of the Yahoo site. You might find some other useful links here.

 

Polish Army in Exile Records - British Ministry of Defence

To obtain the records of Polish soldiers, sailors and airmen that fought
alongside the Allies under British command in World War 2 - for example the 2nd
Polish Corps (Anders Army), attached to the British 8th Army in Persia,
Palestine and Italy.

Send details of your relationship to the soldier in question and the possible
units and dates of service using the Subject Access Request (SAR) form located
at:
The requests should be back up by the following documentation (photocopies of
documents are acceptable):

1. If the ex-serviceman is deceased, the official next of kin must give
authority for disclosure. To establish this authority, please complete a
Certificate of Kinship,
located at :
http://www.veterans-uk.info/pdfs/service_records/raf_kinship.pdf
2. Once the authority to disclose is established, please provide the following
documentation:
a) Death Certificate of ex-serviceman and
b) Marriage Certificate (in the case of widows), or
c) Birth Certificate (in the case of children) plus Death Certificate of the
mother if applicable or her written consent if information is to be released to
a person other than the widow, and
d) Any other documents, which prove kinship

Information is issued free of charge to the widows of ex-servicemen and to those
who are residents in the post-communist countries. All other interested parties
are charged £30 for the service. Payment can be made by cheque, UK Postal Order
or International Money Order. These should be made payable to:

"Ministry of Defence - Accounting Officer"

Please apply by post or e-mail to:
MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
APC DISCLOSURES 5 (POLISH)
Building 28B
RAF Northolt
West End Road
Ruislip, Middlesex
HA4 6NG
England

Telephone: 020 8833 8603 Fax: 020 8833 8866

Email:
polishasstdisoff@...
Email:
polishdisoff@...

 

 

Stefan Wisniowski
SYDNEY

Jan 4, 2009

 

 

pozdrowienia
Elzunia Gradosielska Olsson
Alingsås, Sweden
Names: Maczka. Gradosielski.
Kresy: Osada Krechowiecka. Wilno.
Siberia: Monastyriok. Siewzeldorlag, Komi.
Army: Pestki 316 Transport.
Sappers 5KDP.

 


From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Scrivens
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:04 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] thank you and fyi

Dear Antoni and group,

 Firstly, thank you so much, Antoni, for your guidance in my quest for a birth certificate from the Rzeszów Urząd Stanu Cywilnego. I told you I had emailed the manager and had not received a reply. Anyway, I did find the offices  - to be told my email had been received and replied to (I have still not received it). They remembered my email, remembered the family name (Surowiec) and village (Bratkowice) and said they had sent my details to Świlczy, where the records were.

There, I did get a copy of my uncle’s birth certificate, which was the last thing I needed for the MoD requirements for my maternal grandfather’s war records.

The woman in Świlczy was officious to the nth degree in the beginning but ended up a honey. In my email, I had made it very clear about the day I was planning to visit and was also clear about the names and birth dates of the people I was interested in, but it was in English. In spite of this, she had the books showing details of my grandparents and their parents and others I was interested in, although some of the entries had Christian names spelled differently from those I later received from the village church.

 My message is: don’t be afraid of asking in writing, even if it is in English as there always seems to be someone around who will translate but be prepared to have questions asked in Polish. My Polish isn’t the greatest on earth, but I am able to hold a conversation. Also, I had documentation to prove who I was and was politely tenacious.

While I was doing the official bit, my mother’s cousin, bless her, went to their local priest in Bratkowice and not only got the baptism certificates of my grandparents, but also included wedding details. The priest even wrote out the names of their parents and grandparents.

 Before I left, Aniela had reminded me to ask my rellies about how those in the village had fared in the war (sometime we get too absorbed in our own needs to remember those left behind must also have suffered). And indeed, the tiny village of Bratkowice had its own Zołnierze Armii Krajowiej. In the cemetery there is a memorial to the 19 men who lost their lives between July 26, 1944 and August 2, 1944, fighting German advances.

 Both my very English husband and I thought this would be a one and only trip to Poland. We are used to Polish hospitality but were overwhelmed at the absolute loving embrace of this distant family. One scheduled visit ended in three – and in the true Polish way, all three round the dining table! We were humbled by their graciousness and generosity.  Even though a young cousin was the only one who spoke a few words of English, and I had to rack my brain at times for the correct words, the visits were easy. They were so pleased to see us. We both came away with a better understanding and a determination to return.  

 As for the MoD, while I was in Poland, an early letter of mine had been returned by Royal Mail with a ‘gone away’ sticker. I had used an address I’d found on this site, Army Records Centre (Polish Section), Bourne Ave, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1RF. (No trying to forward to another address, heaven forbid someone should try and be helpful.) The correct address is the Northolt one.

 Kind regards – Barbara Scrivens, NZ

 


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