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#19470 From: "bechta1936" <bechta1936@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:14 am
Subject: Translation pls.
bechta1936
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To anybody who can
PRZYNALEZYTNOSC. I know the word przynaleznosc and nieruchomosc (real
estatae) but the one in question probably refers to what we call
chattles or majatek ruchowy, i.e. animals, since it is in a land
purchase contract.
Also MORG and SAZNIA (with cedilla in first A and dot above Z).  All
land was measured in morgs and we converted it to acres but would like
to have a confirmation, pls.
Thank you - Aniela NZ

#19471 From: Terese Fehlberg <umbras@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:17 am
Subject: References on old maps
p1ck1e
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Hi everyone,
Zbigniew's email of 27th has prompted me to ask a question in
relation to references on maps:

For example: There was the town of Turmont (in gimina Smolwy, Wilno
province) but there was also a D. Turmontu on the rail line to Dvinsk
and there was a Zasc. Turmont. Obviously  3 different places.
   What do D.    Fw.     Zasc.  and  Kol.  or Kolej.  (Kolonia or
Kolejowa Turmonty) before a village/town refer to?
Also: Strezn      Std.  Myłn  Szk.   Gm.  Nw.  Dwor
I worked out that W = wyspa - island  and  most - bridge
Bor and Borze .... for example Racki Bor, Racki Borze. in powiat
Braslaw.

Thanks
Terese
Australia

#19472 From: Terese Fehlberg <umbras@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:12 am
Subject: Marek Jemiolo in Austrian army
p1ck1e
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Dear Marcus,
In regard to your grandfather's army service with the Austrian army.
Have you ever received any comfirmation of his service from them?
A couple of years ago I wanted to trace the possibility of my step-
grandfather Florian Krasowski having been a commander in the Austrian-
Hungarian army, but found that enquiries about service records were
not being considered. I enquired of the Poles, but was told that
unless I had  specific group detail they could not help me. I wrote
to the archives Lviv regarding the  military presence in Rohatyn  in
1918 with no result either, not even a suggestion as to where I might
write.
I should like to hear if anyone ever has had any success in tracing
military service (excluding Anders as I hear of successes from that
group).
Cheers
Terese
Australia

#19473 From: "Eve" <Eve5J@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:18 am
Subject: Re: Translation pls.
eve5j
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Whether the Government of Poland standardized the lan after Poland
became independent is unknown, but in the Galician measurement, one lan
= 1.422 acres.  In the Russian and Prussian partitions, the measurement
was different.

I too have deeds, land papers, and an osada plot plan, Aniela. I will
have to get them out and look at them again.

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "bechta1936" <bechta1936@...>
wrote:
>
> To anybody who can
> PRZYNALEZYTNOSC. I know the word przynaleznosc and nieruchomosc (real
> estatae) but the one in question probably refers to what we call
> chattles or majatek ruchowy, i.e. animals, since it is in a land
> purchase contract.
> Also MORG and SAZNIA (with cedilla in first A and dot above Z).  All
> land was measured in morgs and we converted it to acres but would
like
> to have a confirmation, pls.
> Thank you - Aniela NZ
>

#19474 From: "Eve" <Eve5J@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:19 am
Subject: Re: Translation pls.
eve5j
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Error - in my last post I typed lan, but meant morg.  One morg = 1.422
acres.

Eve

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "bechta1936" <bechta1936@...>
wrote:
>
> To anybody who can
> PRZYNALEZYTNOSC. I know the word przynaleznosc and nieruchomosc (real
> estatae) but the one in question probably refers to what we call
> chattles or majatek ruchowy, i.e. animals, since it is in a land
> purchase contract.
> Also MORG and SAZNIA (with cedilla in first A and dot above Z).  All
> land was measured in morgs and we converted it to acres but would
like
> to have a confirmation, pls.
> Thank you - Aniela NZ
>

#19475 From: Terese Fehlberg <umbras@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:31 am
Subject: Re: displaced persons
p1ck1e
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And.... if you go to the Brauweiler section you can see an early
write-up from me.... and some pics of my family.
Terese

On 28/04/2006, at 9:01 PM, iza jozwiak (nee orankiewicz) wrote:

> hello group
>
> i dont know whether this link has been flagged up before but it is
> very
> interesting and gives lots of other links.
>
> It tells about the deportations by the soviets and the german
> occupation - may be of interest to some of you
>
> iza
>
>
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#19476 From: "Eve" <Eve5J@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:39 am
Subject: Re: Southern woj. interwar land grants (early 1920s)
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I will have to recheck, but I think the Land Reform Act covered both
purchases, at discounted prices, and grants.  It was unclear from your
post whether or not the land was purchased or granted.  Nothing is ever
clear in these matters.  If I recall the Act, described in my book, did
not specify, but stated that land reform was needed and the people
wanted it, due to most land being owned by a few.

Eve

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "bechta1936" <bechta1936@...>
wrote:
>
> Eve
> Pls refer to my message No.19430. My uncle assures me that my
> grandfather was land in Tarnopol but then he bought more in 1922.
> Aas you will see in my message there is reference made in the
> purchase agreement to the Land Reform Act of 15th July 1920.
> Aniela - NZ

#19477 From: Terese Fehlberg <umbras@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:33 am
Subject: Re: research/travel tips for Poland and Belarus
p1ck1e
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Just posted  my experiences to your email address. With a couple of
pics.
Cheers
Terese
On 29/04/2006, at 5:31 AM, Zosia Krukowska wrote:

> Dear Group,
>
>  I would appreciate any travel/research tips from any of the
> members that have been to Poland and Belarus recently.  I'm not
> sure if I will be going to Belarus but some of my stops in Poland
> will be Warszawa,Krakow,Rzesow, Gdynia and Slupsk visiting family.
> Is there a particulary good book store I should visit or archives
> that I should inquire at?  I've heard so much about pickpockets
> that I'm following my grandmother's example and keeping my
> valuables inside my undergarments.
>
> Thank you for any tips you may have.  You can email any info to
> zofiak@...
>
>
> Zosia
> Victoria,B.C.
>
>

#19478 From: Terese Fehlberg <umbras@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:36 am
Subject: Re: Sikorski info
p1ck1e
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I would like it thanks LInder,
Terese
umbras@...

On 29/04/2006, at 5:59 AM, linderladbrooke wrote:

>
>
> Also, I have a 9 page doc, in 'Word' that I just scanned into my m/c,
> telling what you can find in Lviv State Archives. I would like it to
> get onto AFO 'Recourse's', but don't know who does this thesedays? If
> you want it, email me at 'ladbrooke@...' and I'l pass it on
> to you.
>
> Linder
>
>

#19479 From: "Valerie" <vcm@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:53 am
Subject: Re: 50th anniversary and Siberian Cross
valeriemeare
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Cas, congratulations to you and your wife. I hope you have a
fantastic week and many more years of happy married life.
All the best
Val (Oldham,UK)


--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Casimir Majewski <kmaj31@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>   My son is forcing me to send this message because he says I am
too modest to toot my own horn.  He is with me now typing this.
This weekend my wife and I are celebrating our 50th wedding
anniversary.  All of the family is here together for the first time
in more than 5 years.  (including my daughter who lives in Indiana
and my son who lives in Florida.)  We also are having close to 130
friends attend a party that our children are throwing for us,
complete with a Polish band and buffet spread.  That is on Saturday
night.  On Sunday afternoon I am proud to report that I will be one
of three recipients of the Siberian Cross at a special ceremony for
the 3rd of May at the White Eagles Hall in Bridgeport, Connecticut.
Next week my wife and I travel to Chicopee, Massachusetts to attend
the 60th anniversary of Fr. Krolikowski's ordination as a priest.
Fr. Krolikowski is the author of "Stolen Childhood" the saga of the
Polish orphans who were sent to Africa after having been
>  in Siberia.  I am one of the surviving orphans from the group.
>
>   God bless you all
>
>   Cas Majewski
>   Milford, Connecticut
>
>
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#19480 From: "Rita Ciot" <rciot@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:35 am
Subject: Re: K-S Folwarki i Futory, etc
rciot
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Antoni where would one acquire this map??

Thank you,
Rita
Kentucky

>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: ANTONI KAZIMIERSKI
>   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:23 AM
>   Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] K-S Folwarki i Futory, etc
>
>
>   Una,
>   Well we are heading somewhere. On the map there are more than 30
>folwarkow. They are denoted by---FlwMarcinkowski, FlwKropinski, FlwKot,
>FlwKaplany,FlwWaga,itd. Osady are shown as os.Mogila,etc.I have not noticed
>FlwMieczychowski, but there again it might have been futor-Khutor- a much
>smaller settlement.
>   Having said that, it would appear that you grand parents home was not
>within the boudaries  on that map, but further to the East of Czortkow.
>   So. go to --Expedia Travel, Map,Find a Map, World topographic, Type in
>Staryy Nizborok and there you have it.You can navigate that map as you want
>it suit the locations.
>   Now you will see that there is a place called Leski-just near Kolomyja.
>Is it possible it is the one you are looking for?
>   antoni530
>
>
>

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#19481 From: "ANTONI KAZIMIERSKI" <askazimierski@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:17 am
Subject: K_S Osady i Kolonie,etc
antoni530
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I seem to recollect reading somewhere that the land for use in establishment of these settlements came in two forms.
Firstly:The land reform was based on the fact that there were parcels of land 'vacant' following the war in 1918. In other words the 'owners' /administrators died or left to live in Russia (elsewhere). Sejm decided to give notice and 'nationalize' this land; so that after a period of time, if the owner surfaced, he would be given another piece somewhere else to the value of 45ha.These small pieces were further divided and given to the ex-soldiers ( after qualification) for the duration of possession of 25 years.They could not sell or divide their portions.They were granted loans, at a low rate, to build and sink 'studnie' '(wells).Only a special court could alter this with permission of Sejm.Thus these were 'osady wojskowe' in woj.Bialostckie,Nowogrodzkie,Poleskie,Wilenskie and Wolynskie.They were small, with one or two exceptions where 100+ were in one place, otherwise they ranged from one to two to six and ten families per osada.( as an average)
Secondly: There were other larger pieces of land VOLUNTARILY donated/gifted by large landowners such as Radziwill, Sapiecha and others. These were 'kolonie' with up to 2000 small settler- ex-servicemen or administrators.In such circumstances the land was not 'nationalized'.
Naturally in both instances new owners could add more land to their ownership either by purchase,marriage or even in settlement of a debt. As far as I understand these 'kolonie 'could have been in any wojewodztwo.
Good source of info is a book by Janina Stobniak-Smogorska-'Kresowe osadnictwo wojskowe 1920-1945'.(in Polish) ISBN 83-7399-006-2
In it there is a long list of osad in all powiats of Kresow. Curiously none in woj. Tarnopolskie. 
antoni530

#19482 From: "michelle Moffatt" <moffattm@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: Sikorski info
mouse_122001
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I would as well
Michelle
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Sikorski info

PS I would love to get that document Linder
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 7:59 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Sikorski info

Today I was talking to Andrezj at Sikorski in London [what can I find
when I visit]. He told me something I never knew!. When
Polish/Ukrainian/others left USSR to go over Caspian Sea, all
paperwork/doc's/release papers, were supposed to be taken off them, by
Russian soldiers/guards, and they must NEVER speak about what has been
happening to them on Russian soil! [or their families would suffer]
This explains a lot. No 'release' papers available from those held
in 'confinement'. Russian soldiers were supposed to send 'papers' to
their superiors, but, as there were so many, most got thrown away etc.
Russians were not happy letting those 'conscripted' to Russian Army
get out of Russia, they were a 'labour force' and as such, useful.


Also, I have a 9 page doc, in 'Word' that I just scanned into my m/c,
telling what you can find in Lviv State Archives. I would like it to
get onto AFO 'Recourse's', but don't know who does this thesedays? If
you want it, email me at 'ladbrooke@...' and I'l pass it on
to you.

Linder  




#19483 From: "ANTONI KAZIMIERSKI" <askazimierski@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:18 pm
Subject: K-S Folwarki i Futory, etc
antoni530
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Rita,
I am sorry I do not know other than by contacting Tomasz@... who is the originator of that site.
I learnt about it at GenDobry publication.
I hope this helps in some way.
antoni530

#19484 From: Kent Christensen <lkchris@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:08 pm
Subject: Warsaw ghetto commemoration in Copenhagen last Sunday
lkchris2
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From one of my Leica photography lists, here are photographs.

The author notes "BTW, the inscription on the monument visible in
several of the pictures means "Never Again" in Polish, Danish and Hebrew."

http://wajsman.smugmug.com/gallery/1407543

Kent Christensen
Albuquerque

#19485 From: "Elizabeth Olsson" <elzunia@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: K_S Osady i Kolonie,etc
elzuniao
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Maybe you’re right there Antoni – that the difference is whether the land was nationalised or not: that the osady were an organised governmental scheme between 1920-22 for military veterans.  Anything else was a kolonja. Possible?

 

Janina’s book mentioned below is the one and only book written about the “Miltary settlements in Kresy 1920-45”, unfortunately only in Polish. She has done years of work researchng all the archives that exist. The terms “military settlement” and “military settlers” is used in the book and generally accepted, Ryszard Grzybowski used it too. Like the word “Siberia”: geographically speaking, Archangelsk isn’t Siberia but we use the word anyway. There is an index of names and places but no maps. Long list of osady. You’re right, very little information is available from the south, Tarnopol area. Probably because there was more violence and destruction there, so records etc didn’t survive. Nor did the people, to tell their stories.

 

pozdrowienia

Elzunia Olsson

Sweden

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ANTONI KAZIMIERSKI
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 1:17 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] K_S Osady i Kolonie,etc

 

I seem to recollect reading somewhere that the land for use in establishment of these settlements came in two forms.

Firstly:The land reform was based on the fact that there were parcels of land 'vacant' following the war in 1918. In other words the 'owners' /administrators died or left to live in Russia (elsewhere). Sejm decided to give notice and 'nationalize' this land; so that after a period of time, if the owner surfaced, he would be given another piece somewhere else to the value of 45ha.These small pieces were further divided and given to the ex-soldiers ( after qualification) for the duration of possession of 25 years.They could not sell or divide their portions.They were granted loans, at a low rate, to build and sink 'studnie' '(wells).Only a special court could alter this with permission of Sejm.Thus these were 'osady wojskowe' in woj.Bialostckie,Nowogrodzkie,Poleskie,Wilenskie and Wolynskie.They were small, with one or two exceptions where 100+ were in one place, otherwise they ranged from one to two to six and ten families per osada.( as an average)

Secondly: There were other larger pieces of land VOLUNTARILY donated/gifted by large landowners such as Radziwill, Sapiecha and others. These were 'kolonie' with up to 2000 small settler- ex-servicemen or administrators.In such circumstances the land was not 'nationalized'.

Naturally in both instances new owners could add more land to their ownership either by purchase,marriage or even in settlement of a debt. As far as I understand these 'kolonie 'could have been in any wojewodztwo.

Good source of info is a book by Janina Stobniak-Smogorska-'Kresowe osadnictwo wojskowe 1920-1945'.(in Polish) ISBN 83-7399-006-2

In it there is a long list of osad in all powiats of Kresow. Curiously none in woj. Tarnopolskie. 

antoni530



#19486 From: "chris gmitrowicz" <chrisgmitrowicz@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:50 pm
Subject: RE: 50th anniversary and Siberian Cross
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Congratulations and God Bless you both.

Chris.

Birmingham, England


From: Casimir Majewski <kmaj31@...>
Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] 50th anniversary and Siberian Cross
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:48:24 -0700 (PDT)

Hello everyone,
 
My son is forcing me to send this message because he says I am too modest to toot my own horn.  He is with me now typing this.  This weekend my wife and I are celebrating our 50th wedding anniversary.  All of the family is here together for the first time in more than 5 years.  (including my daughter who lives in Indiana and my son who lives in Florida.)  We also are having close to 130 friends attend a party that our children are throwing for us, complete with a Polish band and buffet spread.  That is on Saturday night.  On Sunday afternoon I am proud to report that I will be one of three recipients of the Siberian Cross at a special ceremony for the 3rd of May at the White Eagles Hall in Bridgeport, Connecticut.  Next week my wife and I travel to Chicopee, Massachusetts to attend the 60th anniversary of Fr. Krolikowski's ordination as a priest.  Fr. Krolikowski is the author of "Stolen Childhood" the saga of the Polish orphans who were sent to Africa after having been in Siberia.  I am one of the surviving orphans from the group.   
 
God bless you all
 
Cas Majewski
Milford, Connecticut 


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#19487 From: Eve5J@...
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:19 pm
Subject: abbreviation translation
eve5j
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Hello Group -
 
Does anyone know what this abbreviation means, and translate it for me please:  "Lrep"  Numbers always follow this abbreviation.  Is this a file number, a law number, or a reference number perhaps?  The title of the document is "Uchwala."
 
Regards,
Eve Jankowicz

#19488 From: "Elizabeth Olsson" <elzunia@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:08 am
Subject: Photos of Transport Corps, PWSK
elzuniao
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I’ve been a very busy girl today and have uploaded lots of  photos of the girls in the Transport Corp

 

http://www.kresy-siberia.org/gallery/PWSK

 

I haven’t got many pictures of the other services so if anyone has material to contribute send it to me please.

elzunia@...

 

pozdrowienia

Elzunia Olsson

Sweden

Gallery Administrator

 


#19489 From: Donna <danusia37@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:06 am
Subject: Re: 50th anniversary and Siberian Cross
danusia37
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"Sto Lat"!

Casimir Majewski <kmaj31@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,
 
My son is forcing me to send this message because he says I am too modest to toot my own horn.  He is with me now typing this.  This weekend my wife and I are celebrating our 50th wedding anniversary.  All of the family is here together for the first time in more than 5 years.  (including my daughter who lives in Indiana and my son who lives in Florida.)  We also are having close to 130 friends attend a party that our children are throwing for us, complete with a Polish band and buffet spread.  That is on Saturday night.  On Sunday afternoon I am proud to report that I will be one of three recipients of the Siberian Cross at a special ceremony for the 3rd of May at the White Eagles Hall in Bridgeport, Connecticut.  Next week my wife and I travel to Chicopee, Massachusetts to attend the 60th anniversary of Fr. Krolikowski's ordination as a priest.  Fr. Krolikowski is the author of "Stolen Childhood" the saga of the Polish orphans who were sent to Africa after having been in Siberia.  I am one of the surviving orphans from the group.   
 
God bless you all
 
Cas Majewski
Milford, Connecticut 

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#19490 From: zbigniew <styrna@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:10 am
Subject: RE: Photos of Transport Corps, PWSK
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Wow, I enjoiyed these.  Especaialy a couple of pictures at Krasnovodsk.  These are the only pictures I’ve ever seen of Polish people within Russia.  How did one get a camera to take these ?  I thought Russians would confiscate a camera and not allow pictures ?

 

 

Zbigniew

 

 

 

 

 


From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Olsson
Sent: April 29, 2006 5:08 PM
To: 2. Kresy-Siberia
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Photos of Transport Corps, PWSK

 

I’ve been a very busy girl today and have uploaded lots of  photos of the girls in the Transport Corp

 

http://www.kresy-siberia.org/gallery/PWSK

 

I haven’t got many pictures of the other services so if anyone has material to contribute send it to me please.

elzunia@...

 

pozdrowienia

Elzunia Olsson

Sweden

Gallery Administrator

 


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#19491 From: Terese Fehlberg <umbras@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:33 am
Subject: woj wilenskie Wilno province
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Just a little light surfing for those who may be interested in the most northern part of eastern Poland.
There is a site you might like to visit http://opsa.blog.onet.pl whose journalist creator has provided a banquet of pictures and posts for primarily, woj. wilenskie. It is in Polish with a little English thrown in. You may find it interesting. Powiat Braslaw is the main focus at present but it is an ever-growing site.

There is a book available that may be of interest to some:
Historia Powiatu Braslawskiego XX Stulecia
by Jozef Czekan
once of the region, now of Ketzryn, Poland
ISBN 83-861 99-75-X
Printed 2001 by Wladyslaw Zabinski  11-300  Biskupiec, Kolonia 11 - (089) 715 20 80 phone/fax in Poland.

This book is in the process of a reprint and I am awaiting further copies for the purpose of donating  to interested institutions or groups.
•••••  bookshop@... is the email address of a retailer in Kent, England

The author, Pan Jozef Czekan I can only describe as a Polish icon, in my view. A talent, both in the spheres of writing and painting, he is deeply religious and dedicated to the Polish historical genre. A humble man with a deep sense of compassion. His own story during the war period is a test of faith and humanity and he is, despite his harsh experiences, a generous and impressive human being. 

Cheers
Terese
Australia





#19492 From: John Roy <polish@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:39 am
Subject: Eagle Eye Cam - Powered By Infotec Business Systems
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YOU MAY ENJOY THIS ONE. 3 MILLION HITS PER DAY.

JANEK


http://www.infotecbusinesssystems.com/wildlife/default.asp

#19493 From: "ANTONI KAZIMIERSKI" <askazimierski@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:01 am
Subject: 19488-Photos of Transprt Corps and PSWK
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Elzunia,
You have worked hard and congratulations! it is an interesting Album and perhaps more can be added as it is a historical record.
antoni530

#19494 From: "ANTONI KAZIMIERSKI" <askazimierski@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:00 pm
Subject: Index nazwisk i majatkow-List of names and locations in 1929/30
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I thought that some members might like to look at the list of residents and their location in 1929/30 in Polesie/Wolyn and Tarnopol. This is a site that lists practically all residents.  antoni530
 
 
 
 

#19495 From: "Elizabeth Olsson" <elzunia@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:36 pm
Subject: Trip to Ukraine May 2005
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Updated album

http://www.kresy-siberia.org/gallery/albup81

 

Of special interest: The anonymous monument!!!

 

pozdrowienia

Elzunia Olsson

Sweden

Gallery Administrator

 


#19496 From: Eve5J@...
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: Re: K_S Osady i Kolonie,etc
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Exactly.  Worldwide, Janina's Polish book, Stalin's Ethnic Cleansing, and its predecessor are the only books written about the subject in depth.  I should probably include my article with the above for the southern provinces.  If those 
works were not written, there would be absolutely nothing on the subject of (military) settlers, colonists, or whatever words one uses to describe them.  However, these terms are one and the same and can be used interchangeably.  Repeating--because one term is used by those from one area, does not make the other term used by those from another area incorrect by any means, even if written in a book!  After all, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."
 
The other day I wrote Aniela how many acres equaled one morg.  There were three different measurements for one morg:  Austrian, which is what I gave her since she wrote of the former Galicia, Prussian, and Russian.  I wrote I did not know whether the measurement was standardized by the Polish Government after World War I.  Acreage may well have not been standardized until later in time.  This is only one of many areas that had to be standardized in interwar Poland.  Another was the railroad system of which there were also three.  So what I am stating here is Tarnopol most probably did not go by either the standards or terminology of Wolyn or any other woj. of the former Russian or Prussian partitions.  By the way, the Austrian morg measurement was the largest.
 
All books were written by people from the northern or central woj. and from that standpoint.  The southern provinces are not represented.  The writers did not live in the south, so they do not and cannot know what was done there, how the colonies/settlements were organized, or which terminology was used there.  
 
In the south the word "military" did not precede either "settlement" or "colony" or "settler," as it did in the northern or central areas, but all these terms describing interwar osady or its settlers are still one and the same.  The word "military" is misleading (since the osady were not military in the true sense of the word) and some feel offputting, so it may have been better that this word was not included in the southern provinces' settlements.  In fact, A Concise History of Poland (Cambridge University Press) states, "...and by encouraging the settlement of military colonists [my bold], although the latter were often deeply resented by the local non-Polish populations."  
 
Antoni wrote about former Russian lands, which is your area.  The southern woj. were formerly Austrian lands, so Russia is not pertinent.  I still feel there is something to the fertility of Tarnopol lands.  This land may not have been granted to as many veterans as in more northern provinces because it was extremely valuable, and some say the most fertile land on the planet.
 
There is no specific documentation on the subject-at-large, whether south, north, or central Kresy, that I am aware of in any archive in the world.  I myself checked with the Hoover Institution at Stanford and also with the Pilsudski Institute in New York.  What I would like to know are the specific per woj./province breakdown of land granted or sold to veterans.  A list of ALL Kresy settlements begun interwar would be nice too, but it does not exist or has not yet been located or released.  It could be that the list of osady names was deliberately destroyed by the Russians or Ukrainians during or after World War II, or perhaps this list is in either Moscow or Ukraine.  Thinking about it, one can see precisely why these documents are no where to be found if they still exist.  All Polish records must be released and returned to Poland.
 
Regards,
Eve Jankowicz   
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Maybe you’re right there Antoni – that the difference is whether the land
was nationalised or not: that the osady were an organised governmental
scheme between 1920-22 for military veterans.  Anything else was a kolonja.
Possible?

Janina’s book mentioned below is the one and only book written about the
“Miltary settlements in Kresy 1920-45”, unfortunately only in Polish. She
has done years of work researchng all the archives that exist. The terms
“military settlement” and “military settlers” is used in the book and
generally accepted, Ryszard Grzybowski used it too. Like the word “Siberia”:
geographically speaking, Archangelsk isn’t Siberia but we use the word
anyway. There is an index of names and places but no maps. Long list of
osady. You’re right, very little information is available from the south,
Tarnopol area. Probably because there was more violence and destruction
there, so records etc didn’t survive. Nor did the people, to tell their
stories.

pozdrowienia
Elzunia Olsson
 

#19497 From: zbigniew <styrna@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:18 pm
Subject: RE: Index nazwisk i majatkow-List of names and locations in 1929/30
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A great find and web site but alas it does not list “all”    “wła¶cicieli”   , or land owners within woj. Tarnopol or Stanislawskie.  In 1929 this web site lists only 619 people.  Alas, it does not list any of my relatives.

 

Zbigniew

 


From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ANTONI KAZIMIERSKI
Sent: April 30, 2006 7:00 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Index nazwisk i majatkow-List of names and locations in 1929/30

 

I thought that some members might like to look at the list of residents and their location in 1929/30 in Polesie/Wolyn and Tarnopol. This is a site that lists practically all residents.  antoni530

 

 

 

 

 


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#19498 From: "Eve" <Eve5J@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: Index nazwisk i majatkow-List of names and locations in 1929/30
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Yes, this is a great find, but I could find nothing either.  I think
this is a transcription of names from the 1929 Business Directory?

Eve

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, zbigniew <styrna@...> wrote:
>
> A great find and web site but alas it does not
list "all"    "wła¶cicieli"   , or land owners within
> woj. Tarnopol or Stanislawskie.  In 1929 this web site lists only 619
people.  Alas, it does not
> list any of my relatives.
>
>
>
> Zbigniew

#19499 From: "Andy Golebiowski" <andywbuffalo@...>
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 1:16 am
Subject: Ojciec Marian Zelazek Dies
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Fr. Marian Zelazek, who worked with lepers in India, died recently.

See his obituary at:
"http://www.deepikaglobal.com/
ENG4_sub.aspnewscode=138395&catcode=ENG4&subcatcode="

More about Fr. Zelazek at:
http://www.warsawvoice.pl/archiwum.phtml/1875/


Andy Golebiowski
Buffalo, New York
USA

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