To anybody who can
PRZYNALEZYTNOSC. I know the word przynaleznosc and nieruchomosc (real
estatae) but the one in question probably refers to what we call
chattles or majatek ruchowy, i.e. animals, since it is in a land
purchase contract.
Also MORG and SAZNIA (with cedilla in first A and dot above Z).  All
land was measured in morgs and we converted it to acres but would like
to have a confirmation, pls.
Thank you - Aniela NZ

Hi everyone,
Zbigniew's email of 27th has prompted me to ask a question in
relation to references on maps:

For example: There was the town of Turmont (in gimina Smolwy, Wilno
province) but there was also a D. Turmontu on the rail line to Dvinsk
and there was a Zasc. Turmont. Obviously  3 different places.
   What do D.    Fw.     Zasc.  and  Kol.  or Kolej.  (Kolonia or
Kolejowa Turmonty) before a village/town refer to?
Also: Strezn      Std.  Myłn  Szk.   Gm.  Nw.  Dwor
I worked out that W = wyspa - island  and  most - bridge
Bor and Borze .... for example Racki Bor, Racki Borze. in powiat
Braslaw.

Thanks
Terese
Australia

Dear Marcus,
In regard to your grandfather's army service with the Austrian army.
Have you ever received any comfirmation of his service from them?
A couple of years ago I wanted to trace the possibility of my step-
grandfather Florian Krasowski having been a commander in the Austrian-
Hungarian army, but found that enquiries about service records were
not being considered. I enquired of the Poles, but was told that
unless I had  specific group detail they could not help me. I wrote
to the archives Lviv regarding the  military presence in Rohatyn  in
1918 with no result either, not even a suggestion as to where I might
write.
I should like to hear if anyone ever has had any success in tracing
military service (excluding Anders as I hear of successes from that
group).
Cheers
Terese
Australia

Whether the Government of Poland standardized the lan after Poland
became independent is unknown, but in the Galician measurement, one lan
= 1.422 acres.  In the Russian and Prussian partitions, the measurement
was different.

I too have deeds, land papers, and an osada plot plan, Aniela. I will
have to get them out and look at them again.

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "bechta1936" <bechta1936@...>
wrote:
>
> To anybody who can
> PRZYNALEZYTNOSC. I know the word przynaleznosc and nieruchomosc (real
> estatae) but the one in question probably refers to what we call
> chattles or majatek ruchowy, i.e. animals, since it is in a land
> purchase contract.
> Also MORG and SAZNIA (with cedilla in first A and dot above Z).  All
> land was measured in morgs and we converted it to acres but would
like
> to have a confirmation, pls.
> Thank you - Aniela NZ
>

Error - in my last post I typed lan, but meant morg.  One morg = 1.422
acres.

Eve

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "bechta1936" <bechta1936@...>
wrote:
>
> To anybody who can
> PRZYNALEZYTNOSC. I know the word przynaleznosc and nieruchomosc (real
> estatae) but the one in question probably refers to what we call
> chattles or majatek ruchowy, i.e. animals, since it is in a land
> purchase contract.
> Also MORG and SAZNIA (with cedilla in first A and dot above Z).  All
> land was measured in morgs and we converted it to acres but would
like
> to have a confirmation, pls.
> Thank you - Aniela NZ
>

And.... if you go to the Brauweiler section you can see an early
write-up from me.... and some pics of my family.
Terese

On 28/04/2006, at 9:01 PM, iza jozwiak (nee orankiewicz) wrote:

> hello group
>
> i dont know whether this link has been flagged up before but it is
> very
> interesting and gives lots of other links.
>
> It tells about the deportations by the soviets and the german
> occupation - may be of interest to some of you
>
> iza
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I will have to recheck, but I think the Land Reform Act covered both
purchases, at discounted prices, and grants.  It was unclear from your
post whether or not the land was purchased or granted.  Nothing is ever
clear in these matters.  If I recall the Act, described in my book, did
not specify, but stated that land reform was needed and the people
wanted it, due to most land being owned by a few.

Eve

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "bechta1936" <bechta1936@...>
wrote:
>
> Eve
> Pls refer to my message No.19430. My uncle assures me that my
> grandfather was land in Tarnopol but then he bought more in 1922.
> Aas you will see in my message there is reference made in the
> purchase agreement to the Land Reform Act of 15th July 1920.
> Aniela - NZ

Just posted  my experiences to your email address. With a couple of
pics.
Cheers
Terese
On 29/04/2006, at 5:31 AM, Zosia Krukowska wrote:

> Dear Group,
>
>  I would appreciate any travel/research tips from any of the
> members that have been to Poland and Belarus recently.  I'm not
> sure if I will be going to Belarus but some of my stops in Poland
> will be Warszawa,Krakow,Rzesow, Gdynia and Slupsk visiting family.
> Is there a particulary good book store I should visit or archives
> that I should inquire at?  I've heard so much about pickpockets
> that I'm following my grandmother's example and keeping my
> valuables inside my undergarments.
>
> Thank you for any tips you may have.  You can email any info to
> zofiak@...
>
>
> Zosia
> Victoria,B.C.
>
>

I would like it thanks LInder,
Terese
umbras@...

On 29/04/2006, at 5:59 AM, linderladbrooke wrote:

>
>
> Also, I have a 9 page doc, in 'Word' that I just scanned into my m/c,
> telling what you can find in Lviv State Archives. I would like it to
> get onto AFO 'Recourse's', but don't know who does this thesedays? If
> you want it, email me at 'ladbrooke@...' and I'l pass it on
> to you.
>
> Linder
>
>

Cas, congratulations to you and your wife. I hope you have a
fantastic week and many more years of happy married life.
All the best
Val (Oldham,UK)


--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Casimir Majewski <kmaj31@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>   My son is forcing me to send this message because he says I am
too modest to toot my own horn.  He is with me now typing this.
This weekend my wife and I are celebrating our 50th wedding
anniversary.  All of the family is here together for the first time
in more than 5 years.  (including my daughter who lives in Indiana
and my son who lives in Florida.)  We also are having close to 130
friends attend a party that our children are throwing for us,
complete with a Polish band and buffet spread.  That is on Saturday
night.  On Sunday afternoon I am proud to report that I will be one
of three recipients of the Siberian Cross at a special ceremony for
the 3rd of May at the White Eagles Hall in Bridgeport, Connecticut.
Next week my wife and I travel to Chicopee, Massachusetts to attend
the 60th anniversary of Fr. Krolikowski's ordination as a priest.
Fr. Krolikowski is the author of "Stolen Childhood" the saga of the
Polish orphans who were sent to Africa after having been
>  in Siberia.  I am one of the surviving orphans from the group.
>
>   God bless you all
>
>   Cas Majewski
>   Milford, Connecticut
>
>
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Antoni where would one acquire this map??

Thank you,
Rita
Kentucky

>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: ANTONI KAZIMIERSKI
>   To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:23 AM
>   Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] K-S Folwarki i Futory, etc
>
>
>   Una,
>   Well we are heading somewhere. On the map there are more than 30
>folwarkow. They are denoted by---FlwMarcinkowski, FlwKropinski, FlwKot,
>FlwKaplany,FlwWaga,itd. Osady are shown as os.Mogila,etc.I have not noticed
>FlwMieczychowski, but there again it might have been futor-Khutor- a much
>smaller settlement.
>   Having said that, it would appear that you grand parents home was not
>within the boudaries  on that map, but further to the East of Czortkow.
>   So. go to --Expedia Travel, Map,Find a Map, World topographic, Type in
>Staryy Nizborok and there you have it.You can navigate that map as you want
>it suit the locations.
>   Now you will see that there is a place called Leski-just near Kolomyja.
>Is it possible it is the one you are looking for?
>   antoni530
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Lucyna Artymiuk

To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 5:07 PM

Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Sikorski info

PS I would love to get that document Linder

----- Original Message -----

From: linderladbrooke

To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 7:59 AM

Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Sikorski info

Today I was talking to Andrezj at Sikorski in London [what can I find
when I visit]. He told me something I never knew!. When
Polish/Ukrainian/others left USSR to go over Caspian Sea, all
paperwork/doc's/release papers, were supposed to be taken off them, by
Russian soldiers/guards, and they must NEVER speak about what has been
happening to them on Russian soil! [or their families would suffer]
This explains a lot. No 'release' papers available from those held
in 'confinement'. Russian soldiers were supposed to send 'papers' to
their superiors, but, as there were so many, most got thrown away etc.
Russians were not happy letting those 'conscripted' to Russian Army
get out of Russia, they were a 'labour force' and as such, useful.


Also, I have a 9 page doc, in 'Word' that I just scanned into my m/c,
telling what you can find in Lviv State Archives. I would like it to
get onto AFO 'Recourse's', but don't know who does this thesedays? If
you want it, email me at 'ladbrooke@...' and I'l pass it on
to you.

Linder  

From one of my Leica photography lists, here are photographs.

The author notes "BTW, the inscription on the monument visible in
several of the pictures means "Never Again" in Polish, Danish and Hebrew."

http://wajsman.smugmug.com/gallery/1407543

Kent Christensen
Albuquerque

Hello everyone,

 

My son is forcing me to send this message because he says I am too modest to toot my own horn.  He is with me now typing this.  This weekend my wife and I are celebrating our 50th wedding anniversary.  All of the family is here together for the first time in more than 5 years.  (including my daughter who lives in Indiana and my son who lives in Florida.)  We also are having close to 130 friends attend a party that our children are throwing for us, complete with a Polish band and buffet spread.  That is on Saturday night.  On Sunday afternoon I am proud to report that I will be one of three recipients of the Siberian Cross at a special ceremony for the 3rd of May at the White Eagles Hall in Bridgeport, Connecticut.  Next week my wife and I travel to Chicopee, Massachusetts to attend the 60th anniversary of Fr. Krolikowski's ordination as a priest.  Fr. Krolikowski is the author of "Stolen Childhood" the saga of the Polish orphans who were sent to Africa after having been in Siberia.  I am one of the surviving orphans from the group.   

 

God bless you all

 

Cas Majewski

Milford, Connecticut 

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Yes, this is a great find, but I could find nothing either.  I think
this is a transcription of names from the 1929 Business Directory?

Eve

--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, zbigniew <styrna@...> wrote:
>
> A great find and web site but alas it does not
list "all"    "wła¶cicieli"   , or land owners within
> woj. Tarnopol or Stanislawskie.  In 1929 this web site lists only 619
people.  Alas, it does not
> list any of my relatives.
>
>
>
> Zbigniew

Fr. Marian Zelazek, who worked with lepers in India, died recently.

See his obituary at:
"http://www.deepikaglobal.com/
ENG4_sub.aspnewscode=138395&catcode=ENG4&subcatcode="

More about Fr. Zelazek at:
http://www.warsawvoice.pl/archiwum.phtml/1875/


Andy Golebiowski
Buffalo, New York
USA