To those wanting a well written odyssey book in English--

Read "Without Vodka: Adventures in Wartime Russia" by Aleksander
Topolski.
He was 16 in 1939 when he was taken captive by Soviet soldiers on the
southeast border of Poland.  After time in Czortkow prisons, he was
taken to Russia, first to prisons and then to work in Gulag labor
camps until he was released under the "amnesty".  He worked for a
while near Kirov in Northern Russia, then boarded a TransSiberian
train and travelled hither and yon until he found Anders's army in
Kermine (Navoi) in Uzbekhistan.
  Topolski tells what happened to him and to so many Poles coping with
hunger, sickness and fear in the Soviet Union during the Second World
War. Other Sybiraki have praised "Without Vodka" as being true to
life, saying their experiences were similar.
  The book was published first in Canada in 2000 by McArthur & Company
(ISBN: 1-55278-121-6) and then in the USA in 2001 by Steerforth Press
(ISBN: 1–58642-012-7).  It has been well reviewed in English language
daily papers and periodicals (as well as Polish) and is available in
North American bookstores and worldwide online (eg from Amazon.com,
or Chapters) as well as in many libraries.
You can see the reviews, excerpts, photos, drawings, index of names
and places, etc. on his website  www.withoutvodka.com.  This has
links to other sites carrying reviews and further excerpts
from  "Without Vodka."
If you have trouble reaching his site, go to the search engine Google
and look under Aleksander Topolski, or under Without Vodka.
Good reading!
Joan Eddis-Topolski

Please offer a belated welcome to Maria (Rutkowska) Nolan, from Australia,
who subscribed last month but it looks to me like I forgot to forward her
introduction then.

Although not as directly related to the Soviet deportations as most of us,
Maria's family also suffered during the war and there is much we can learn
from each other.
--
Stefan Wisniowski

----------
From: "Maria Nolan" <nolan470@...>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:10:11 +1100

...I received your page address from Chris Gladun - he thought I might be
interested in what you are doing with Polish History,

My name is Maria Nolan and I live in Goulburn, I used to live in Plumpton
also in NSW, moved to Goulburn 1 year ago for my husbands job. I retired
from my job as school assistant last year, but for this school term I have
been asked to work 2 days a week at my old school at Blackett which is a
suburb of Mt Druitt, NSW. I am writing a family history and am interested in
Polish History as well, I will send you what I sent to Chris.

I have also published a small article on Polish Connection page if you are
interested in reading it I am sending the page as well.
warm regards
Maria Nolan (Rutkowska)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~atpc/genealogy/articles/memory-nola
n-maria.html

Hello Chris,
I have just found your story  and all related pages, It is so very
interesting and moving and a wonderful history lesson. Thank you so much for
all the hard work you have done to have this memorable story of your family
on the internet.

I am also Polish, born in Germany 1946 in a displaced persons camp, we
migrated as displaced refugees to Australia in 1950.  My mum was a forced
labourer on a German farm and my dad was a prisoner in various concentration
camps in Poland, Germany and France.

Up until 4 years ago , I knew nothing about my parents past, as both wanted
to forget what happened, so they buried their past and never talked about it
only telling us when we were children that their families perished during
the war.  4 years ago my mother with the onset of dementia and no short term
memory, but her past memory was very vivid in her mind started to talk about
her past life and experiences. All the tragic horrific things that she went
through were very hard for us to comprehend. Not only did she live in
torture during the war, she then relived it all again during her illness.
This then started me on a road to Poland and a search for relatives and a
family history.

Reading your family story has given me so much insight as to what the
survivors of all these atrocities went through, It also helps me to
understand why when we were growing up I always felt that both my parents
had this enormous  emotional brick wall in front of them. Since my search
started I have found relatives, I have a half brother and sister back in
Poland, and after finding my mothers son in 1999 , we invited him to visit
mum, and meet her for the first time in 60 years. all very emotional, and he
spent 4 beautiful days with her before she died. I now have this passion for
wanting to learn more and more, not only about our family history but Polish
history as well. Thanks once again for your contribution.
warm regards
Maria Nolan (Rutkowska) from Australia

Hello all group members and hello Stefan

Stefan, a small favour. Would you please translate the
following into English. I think you are probably
better at that than I am.

"Dzis we snie mnie nawiedzil aniol polskiej doli i
plakal szumiac w mroku skrzydlami srebrnymi, jak gdyby
chcial powiedzic: 'Umierasz powoli, samotny, tak
daleko od rodzinnej ziemi'. "Daleko? Co ty mowisz?
Mnie wszystkie zapachy ogrodow i pol naszych co dzien
niosa wiatry.  We mnie jest wszystko: Mazowieckie
piachy, i jeziora litewskie i wisla i tatry".

Jan Lechom/zm. 1956r. w nowym jorku/ Rozmowa z
Aniolem.
Polonia Swiata.org

Please do not dissect this, and look at the positives
and negatives etc. etc etc.!
The essence of our polishness is here. Our romanticism
is here.  The very heart of our parents is to be found
here.
This is partly why a group such as this exists.To
HONOUR and REMEMBER those who loved and lost their
beloved homeland in such tragic circumstances.

With good wishes to all

Ela Kniaz

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Hi Linder et al,

There is a book written by Fr. Lucjan Krolikowski, O.F.M. Conv.:

"Stolen Childhood (A Saga of Polish War Children)",
  Published 1983 by Father Justin Rosary Hour, Buffalo, New York, USA
  ISBN: 0-9691588-0-7

Back-cover notes:
"A compelling and moving account of an unknown chapter of World War
II: the saga of 380,000 Polish children deported to the Soviet Union
during the years 1939-41 ... of great value to historians of World
War II, but also of more general interest as a document of love,
courage, and of extraordinary human tragedy."
   -Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski, Washington, D.C.

Includes 32 pages of photos and maps.

Hope this is helpful,
Jan Wisniowski

It's very moving, beautiful.

Henry

--- In Kresy-Siberia@y..., Elzbieta Kniaz <kniaziniaela@y...> wrote:
> Hello all group members and hello Stefan
>
> Stefan, a small favour. Would you please translate the
> following into English. I think you are probably
> better at that than I am.
>
> "Dzis we snie mnie nawiedzil aniol polskiej doli i
> plakal szumiac w mroku skrzydlami srebrnymi, jak gdyby
> chcial powiedzic: 'Umierasz powoli, samotny, tak
> daleko od rodzinnej ziemi'. "Daleko? Co ty mowisz?
> Mnie wszystkie zapachy ogrodow i pol naszych co dzien
> niosa wiatry.  We mnie jest wszystko: Mazowieckie
> piachy, i jeziora litewskie i wisla i tatry".
>
> Jan Lechom/zm. 1956r. w nowym jorku/ Rozmowa z
> Aniolem.
> Polonia Swiata.org
>
> Please do not dissect this, and look at the positives
> and negatives etc. etc etc.!
> The essence of our polishness is here. Our romanticism
> is here.  The very heart of our parents is to be found
> here.
> This is partly why a group such as this exists.To
> HONOUR and REMEMBER those who loved and lost their
> beloved homeland in such tragic circumstances.
>
> With good wishes to all
>
> Ela Kniaz
>
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Thank so much, maps too! That's what I really need

Linder
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:51 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: English books on the Odyssey


> Hi Linder et al,
>
> There is a book written by Fr. Lucjan Krolikowski, O.F.M. Conv.:
>
> "Stolen Childhood (A Saga of Polish War Children)",
>  Published 1983 by Father Justin Rosary Hour, Buffalo, New York, USA
>  ISBN: 0-9691588-0-7
>
> Back-cover notes:
> "A compelling and moving account of an unknown chapter of World War
> II: the saga of 380,000 Polish children deported to the Soviet Union
> during the years 1939-41 ... of great value to historians of World
> War II, but also of more general interest as a document of love,
> courage, and of extraordinary human tragedy."
>   -Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski, Washington, D.C.
>
> Includes 32 pages of photos and maps.
>
> Hope this is helpful,
> Jan Wisniowski
>
>
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Hi Michael,

From: "iteekulik"
<<<Your "Monastryok" photo (although I have seen it before in the
>Stalins Ethnic Cleansing Book) is always of great interest to me as
>it includes two uncles and one aunt: Jan & Alina Kulik and Mieczyslaw
>(Mietek) Ostrynski. Also shown are the Lipinski's who were also
>related to my family through my grandmother.
>
>Do you, by any chance, have any other photos relating to this period??
>
My mother said that she of course remembers your family very well from
the Osada and later. They seem to be keeping in touch now too. I scanned
the photo from Stalins Ethnic ..... I  assume  that they have exchanged
photos over the years so I don't really know who this photo belongs to
but it was with my Mother's article so ..... I'll ask her if she has any
more photos. I wrote to Bogus too but haven't heard anything back.

Maybe you can go along to the "Krechowiecka reunions" that are held
annually at Fenton, England (where's Fenton?) and meet these people
yourself!

Elzunia Olsson

Ela,
Thanks for the poet in your Polish soul.

I must say that my cousin in Kraków, Teresa Baluk Ulewicz, is the poetry
translator 'par excelance' in the famliy - She even translated Jan
Kochanowski!

Anyway, here is my sad little attempt (there is no sense translating a poem
word for word).  But it would be great to read other renditions (now how can
I coax something out of Teresa...?)


"In my dreams, the angel of Polish sorrow visited me,
and rustling silver wings in the dusk, wept bitterly,
as if to say: 'You are dying so slowly, so lonely,
so far from the land that gave birth to your family"

"Far?  What is it that you mean to say?
All the smells of our gardens and fields, every day,
are brought me by the winds, [that lovingly blow],
Within me is everything, [that I love so]:
The sands of Mazovia, the Lithuanian lakes,
the Vistula River, the great Tatra peaks."

Jan Lechom, died 1956 in New York
"Conversation with an Angel"
Polonia Swiata.org
--
Stefan Wisniowski

> Stefan, a small favour. Would you please translate the
> following into English. I think you are probably
> better at that than I am....
>
> Ela Kniaz
>
> "Dzis we snie mnie nawiedzil aniol polskiej doli i
> plakal szumiac w mroku skrzydlami srebrnymi, jak gdyby
> chcial powiedzic: 'Umierasz powoli, samotny, tak
> daleko od rodzinnej ziemi'. "Daleko? Co ty mowisz?
> Mnie wszystkie zapachy ogrodow i pol naszych co dzien
> niosa wiatry.  We mnie jest wszystko: Mazowieckie
> piachy, i jeziora litewskie i wisla i tatry".
>
> Jan Lechom/zm. 1956r. w nowym jorku/ Rozmowa z
> Aniolem.

Just a few more details from a flyer on Father Krolikowski's "A Stolen
Childhood, A Saga of Polish War Children"   The book may be purchased
directly from the publisher at www.iuniverse.com for $21.95 plus
shipping.
Once at the site, Click on "Bookstore" and then search by
the title, entering "stolen childhood"  You can then browse on line
through the book before purchasing.

    Cass Glodek

Just a few more details from a flyer on Father Krolikowski's "A Stolen
Childhood, A Saga of Polish War Children"   The book may be purchased
directly from the publisher at www.iuniverse.com for $21.95 plus
shipping.

To all:
I am attaching an abbreviated version of the literature references and
discussion from my book "Exiled to Siberia." It contains most books on the
subject in print as of summer 2000 in the USA. Perhaps someone could
supplement the list.
I screened my computer and updated the anti-virus files. The attachment
should be clean. Klaus Hergt

--- henrysokolowski <hsokol@...> wrote:
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<tt>
It's very moving, beautiful.<BR>
<BR>
Henry<BR>

I AM GLAD THAT YOU LIKE IT.  IT MADE ME CRY, BUT YOU
SEE I AM AN EMOTIONAL POLISH WOMAN!
ELA


<BR>
--- In Kresy-Siberia@y..., Elzbieta Kniaz
<kniaziniaela@y...> wrote:<BR>
> Hello all group members and hello Stefan<BR>
> <BR>
> Stefan, a small favour. Would you please
translate the<BR>
> following into English. I think you are
probably<BR>
> better at that than I am.<BR>
> <BR>
> "Dzis we snie mnie nawiedzil aniol polskiej
doli i<BR>
> plakal szumiac w mroku skrzydlami srebrnymi, jak
gdyby<BR>
> chcial powiedzic: 'Umierasz powoli, samotny,
tak<BR>
> daleko od rodzinnej ziemi'. "Daleko? Co ty
mowisz?<BR>
> Mnie wszystkie zapachy ogrodow i pol naszych co
dzien<BR>
> niosa wiatry.  We mnie jest wszystko:
Mazowieckie<BR>
> piachy, i jeziora litewskie i wisla i
tatry".<BR>
> <BR>
> Jan Lechom/zm. 1956r. w nowym jorku/ Rozmowa
z<BR>
> Aniolem.<BR>
> Polonia Swiata.org<BR>
> <BR>
> Please do not dissect this, and look at the
positives<BR>
> and negatives etc. etc etc.!<BR>
> The essence of our polishness is here. Our
romanticism<BR>
> is here.  The very heart of our parents is
to be found<BR>
> here.<BR>
> This is partly why a group such as this
exists.To<BR>
> HONOUR and REMEMBER those who loved and lost
their<BR>
> beloved homeland in such tragic
circumstances.<BR>
> <BR>
> With good wishes to all<BR>
> <BR>
> Ela Kniaz<BR>
> <BR>
>
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Hello Elizabeth:

Fenton is in Lincolnshire. My Uncle, has asked me to accompany him to
the next "Krechowiecka Reunion" which, I understand, are normally
held in September each year.

I hope to meet your mother, amongst others, then.


Best wishes

Michael Kulik



> Maybe you can go along to the "Krechowiecka reunions" that are held
> annually at Fenton, England (where's Fenton?) and meet these people
> yourself!
>
> Elzunia Olsson

Stanislaw Szybalski

Bogdan Wilamowski wrote:

Dear Colleauges,I came across this web page:http://www.kul.lublin.pl/dzwonkowski/martylogium.htmlwhich has an index of people, (priests/nuns etc), from the Kresy areas, who were arrested/imprisoned/sent to labour camps, or faced death penalties.The site is in Polish only, some of the obituaries are rather gruesome, and depict clearly the atrocities of the NKWD...indeed the name I am researching (a priest), was arrested, had an effigy of the cross burnt on his back, tied to a cart, and made to walk 100s of miles, therafter, attempts to extract his bishops ring, resulted in having his finger hacked off..........finally to be buried alive.Kind RegardsBogdan (Derby,East Midlands.UK)

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Should be:

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> I came across this web page:
> http://www.kul.lublin.pl/dzwonkowski/martylogium.html
> which has an index of people, (priests/nuns etc), from the Kresy
areas, who were arrested/imprisoned/sent to labour camps, or faced
death penalties.
> The site is in Polish only, some of the obituaries are rather
gruesome, and depict clearly the atrocities of the NKWD...indeed the
name I am researching (a priest), was arrested, had an effigy of the
cross burnt on his back, tied to a cart, and made to walk 100s of
miles, therafter, attempts to extract his bishops ring, resulted in
having his finger hacked off..........finally to be buried alive.
> Kind Regards
> Bogdan (Derby,East Midlands.UK)

Dear Colleauges,
I came across this web page:
http://www.kul.lublin.pl/dzwonkowski/martylogium.html
which has an index of people, (priests/nuns etc), from the Kresy areas, who were arrested/imprisoned/sent to labour camps, or faced death penalties.

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Cc: Bogdan Wilamowski

Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:02 AM

Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Martyrologium - In the service of the R.C.Church in Russia 1917-1939

Thank you Bogdan
For those interested in this site the correct web address is:
http://www.kul.lublin.pl/dzwonkowski/martyrologium.html
--
Stefan Wisniowski

Dear Colleauges,
I came across this web page:
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From: "WITOLD LUKASZEWSKI" <vic-ala@...>
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Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Another photo from Teheran 21.04.2002

Stefan,

Thank you for forwarding the photograph of the Polish cemetary in Teheran
and, through you, my thanks also to Wladyslaw. That is very kind and
thoughtful of him. This is the only general photograph I have of the
cemetary where my sister and grandmother are buried. Thaks again.

Witold
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> Wladyslaw sends this photo of the monument at the Polish cemetery in
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> [back] to the fatherland, entered God's eternal rest.  1942-1944."
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Wladyslaw Czapski has put a travelogue of his visit to the Teheran Polish
cemetery on to his web page:
http://fire.us.wroc.pl/biorytm/tehran.htm
--
Stefan Wisniowski

----------
From: "Wladyslaw Czapski" <cz@...>

Wgralem wizyte z Tehranu IRAN na moja nw. Strone.
Na pierwszej stronie
- lewy
- dolny rog.
   Jest obrazek "Wroclaw 2002 Tehran"  prosze go odslonic.,
Mozna:
- przeczytac.
- ogladnac zdjecia
- posluchac dzwikow glosu
- zobaczyc video.
Program sciaga te fragmenty ale sa do otrzymania.
   Czekam na reakcje.
Pozdrawiam.
W.Czapski Wroclaw Polska.
          ---------------ooo-(.)(.)-ooo----------------------------
INFO SERVICE POLAND (1981)           Mr. W.S.  CZAPSKI
                50-983  WROCLAW 14                 P.O.BOX  1954
TEL/FAX/BBS:+48 (71) 3383838  mobile:+48 (601) 511109
e-mail: cz@...                http://fire.us.wroc.pl/biorytm/
NEWS !! Offices moving = Biura ruchome24h  NEW ADRES !!
Exchange :voice, text, fax, foto, video, e-mail, internt, SMS. .
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>-:))))))

Well done Wladyslaw, I really enjoyed your photographs, even if I could
not understand the Polish, thank you for letting us all view them, I
only wish I could have been there with you all.

John Nieurzyla

Stefan Wisniowski wrote:
>
> Wladyslaw Czapski has put a travelogue of his visit to the Teheran Polish
> cemetery on to his web page:
> http://fire.us.wroc.pl/biorytm/tehran.htm
> --
> Stefan Wisniowski
>
> ----------
> From: "Wladyslaw Czapski" <cz@...>
>
> Wgralem wizyte z Tehranu IRAN na moja nw. Strone.
> Na pierwszej stronie
> - lewy
> - dolny rog.
>   Jest obrazek "Wroclaw 2002 Tehran"  prosze go odslonic.,
> Mozna:
> - przeczytac.
> - ogladnac zdjecia
> - posluchac dzwikow glosu
> - zobaczyc video.
> Program sciaga te fragmenty ale sa do otrzymania.
>   Czekam na reakcje.
> Pozdrawiam.
> W.Czapski Wroclaw Polska.
>          ---------------ooo-(.)(.)-ooo----------------------------
> INFO SERVICE POLAND (1981)           Mr. W.S.  CZAPSKI
>                50-983  WROCLAW 14                 P.O.BOX  1954
> TEL/FAX/BBS:+48 (71) 3383838  mobile:+48 (601) 511109
> e-mail: cz@...                http://fire.us.wroc.pl/biorytm/
> NEWS !! Offices moving = Biura ruchome24h  NEW ADRES !!
> Exchange :voice, text, fax, foto, video, e-mail, internt, SMS. .
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I am glad.
I was in Tehranie 1942 and 2002.
I saw grave Of mother after 60 years.
For me this {then} former {one was} large excitements.
I see IRAN as my second country.
Thank you.

Wladyslaw Czapski
ok.

----- Wiadomo¶ć oryginalna -----
Od: "John Nieurzyla" <j.nieurzyla@...>
Do: <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Wysłano: 8 maja 2002 17:56
Temat: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] FW: Aktualizacja strony.


> Well done Wladyslaw, I really enjoyed your photographs, even if I could
> not understand the Polish, thank you for letting us all view them, I
> only wish I could have been there with you all.
>
> John Nieurzyla
>
> Stefan Wisniowski wrote:
> >
> > Wladyslaw Czapski has put a travelogue of his visit to the Teheran
Polish
> > cemetery on to his web page:
> > http://fire.us.wroc.pl/biorytm/tehran.htm
> > --
> > Stefan Wisniowski
> >
> > ----------
> > From: "Wladyslaw Czapski" <cz@...>
> >
> > Wgralem wizyte z Tehranu IRAN na moja nw. Strone.
> > Na pierwszej stronie
> > - lewy
> > - dolny rog.
> >   Jest obrazek "Wroclaw 2002 Tehran"  prosze go odslonic.,
> > Mozna:
> > - przeczytac.
> > - ogladnac zdjecia
> > - posluchac dzwikow glosu
> > - zobaczyc video.
> > Program sciaga te fragmenty ale sa do otrzymania.
> >   Czekam na reakcje.
> > Pozdrawiam.
> > W.Czapski Wroclaw Polska.
> >          ---------------ooo-(.)(.)-ooo----------------------------
> > INFO SERVICE POLAND (1981)           Mr. W.S.  CZAPSKI
> >                50-983  WROCLAW 14                 P.O.BOX  1954
> > TEL/FAX/BBS:+48 (71) 3383838  mobile:+48 (601) 511109
> > e-mail: cz@...                http://fire.us.wroc.pl/biorytm/
> > NEWS !! Offices moving = Biura ruchome24h  NEW ADRES !!
> > Exchange :voice, text, fax, foto, video, e-mail, internt, SMS. .
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>
> Looking for any Nieurzyla's or Nieuzyla's in the world,
> & Robert Dodds, a tailor born in Newcastle, NBL abt 1852, his father
> was a joiner also called Robert Dodds.
>
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Thank you Wladyslaw for sharing your travelogue with us all. My
father will be especially pleased to be able to view your pictures.


Michael Kulik
England

--- In Kresy-Siberia@y..., Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@p...> wrote:
> Wladyslaw Czapski has put a travelogue of his visit to the Teheran
Polish
> cemetery on to his web page:
> http://fire.us.wroc.pl/biorytm/tehran.htm
> --
> Stefan Wisniowski
>
> ----------

Hi all,
Has anyone ever travelled to Kazakhstan for their research and, if
so, how easy/difficult was it to do so?
Thanks
Grace

I'm just curious as to whether, providing Germany had not been conquered by
the Allies and USSR, and when it could have attained nuclear capabilities?

Germany already had v2, and v3 rockets, as well as air-surface missiles.
Would it have conceived a bomb, or would Germany have had a nuclear warhead
on a missile?

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On present grounds Poland are ranges /1945/ to rockets V1 and V2.
Poland national Army /AK/ informed England about this of technology.
      Wladyslaw Czapski
See my page   http://fire.us.wroc.pl/biorytm/
or                      http://fire.us.wroc.pl/biorytm/tehran.htm

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Od: "W.A. L." <w_a_l_@...>
Do: <Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com>
Wysłano: 9 maja 2002 08:27
Temat: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Hitler and the Atom Bomb


> I'm just curious as to whether, providing Germany had not been conquered
by
> the Allies and USSR, and when it could have attained nuclear capabilities?
>
> Germany already had v2, and v3 rockets, as well as air-surface missiles.
> Would it have conceived a bomb, or would Germany have had a nuclear
warhead
> on a missile?
>
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Has anyone ever travelled to Kazakhstan for their research and, if so, how easy/difficult was it to do so?
Thanks
Grace